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merlinxx
31st May 2012, 10:53
Gulf beat me. EHRD when it had that great little terrace rampside !

olympus
31st May 2012, 12:29
Sorry guys, not Odense or Rotterdam.

descol
31st May 2012, 12:57
copenhagen ?

olympus
31st May 2012, 13:28
Not Scandinavia; think Germany.

Krakatoa
31st May 2012, 13:38
I will go for Cologne. OH if correct

olympus
31st May 2012, 14:19
Krakatoa is correct and has declared Open House.

LFT
31st May 2012, 19:05
How about this one -

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6673/1984v.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/1984v.jpg/)

LFT
1st Jun 2012, 22:32
1st clue - Northern Hemisphere..

chevvron
1st Jun 2012, 22:58
To try to get things rolling, I'll guess New Orleans Lakefront (might get another clue then!)

LFT
1st Jun 2012, 23:46
C130/C17 etc (believe it or not) types only..

twochai
2nd Jun 2012, 02:59
MCAS Quantico? Home of Marine Corps Helicopter Squadron One, the unit which flies the President of the U.S.

If correct, Open House, as I'm out of business for 24 hrs.

LFT
2nd Jun 2012, 07:33
Quantico it is, well done.

As twochai says, Open House.

olympus
2nd Jun 2012, 19:02
The next...

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/mini-airfield39.jpg

sabredog
2nd Jun 2012, 19:08
Cologne Airfield?

Gulfstreamaviator
2nd Jun 2012, 19:17
over kill.....or before smart bombs (or aimers)....

glf

olympus
2nd Jun 2012, 21:23
Sorry sabredog, not Cologne.

Lordflasheart
2nd Jun 2012, 21:41
"over kill.....or before smart bombs (or aimers)...."

Im Gegenteil Herr Golfstromflieger - a nicely spaced and very effective airfield denial. :) LFH

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olympus
2nd Jun 2012, 22:29
The series of photos of which this is one (taken by a PRU aircraft) showed 800 craters on the airfield.

sabredog
3rd Jun 2012, 07:07
Volkel Airfield,Netherlands.

Noyade
3rd Jun 2012, 08:17
Volkel Airfield,Netherlands. Rather amazingly for me, I can confirm that. :ok:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4348/img695.jpg (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/img695.jpg/)

Lordflasheart
3rd Jun 2012, 08:58
And just to tie these together, this is how Volkel was "hammered back into shape" by Noyade and Sabredog last August - Which Aerodrome Mk III page 3, Post 48.

So don't be shy fellows - Which of you two handsome guys is operating the Trench Rammer ? :) LFH



http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg269/scaled.php?server=269&filename=img020kw.jpg&res=landing

Noyade
3rd Jun 2012, 08:59
Never smoked in my life - that must be Sabredog. :)

sabredog
3rd Jun 2012, 09:22
Sorry,LFH, like Noyade I am also a non-smoker. Very stylish cap though, and a somewhat nonchalant attitude to his duties.

olympus
3rd Jun 2012, 12:25
Sabredog has control!

sabredog
3rd Jun 2012, 13:15
Thank you,Olympus.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz116.jpg

Cows getting bigger
3rd Jun 2012, 13:40
Nutts Corner?

sabredog
3rd Jun 2012, 13:46
Nutts Corner is correct.
Another photographic editing failure on my part!!
YHC

Cows getting bigger
3rd Jun 2012, 14:44
:)

Open House gents.

olympus
3rd Jun 2012, 16:19
Let's see if this one lasts any longer...

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/mini-airfield40.jpg

sabredog
3rd Jun 2012, 22:23
Pleiku AFB,Vietnam?

olympus
4th Jun 2012, 11:31
Sorry sabredog, not Pleiku. Right general area (SE Asia).

Duckbutt
4th Jun 2012, 14:01
Ubon Royal Thai Air Force Base?

olympus
4th Jun 2012, 14:34
Correct Duckbutt. Ubon it is.

YHC.

Duckbutt
4th Jun 2012, 14:55
Thanks.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz72.jpg

Duckbutt
5th Jun 2012, 12:37
This aerodrome was only used for a couple of years when pilots went to school here.

If it helps throw some light and narrow it down, these days a railway runs across the location.

sabredog
5th Jun 2012, 16:08
R.F.C. Dymchurch (Palmarsh). N01.Aux. School of Aerial Gunnery,1917.
RHD Railway.

Duckbutt
5th Jun 2012, 18:34
Orl korrect Sabredog. Your turn.

sabredog
5th Jun 2012, 19:03
Thank you,DB. A good challenge.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz117.jpg

dixi188
5th Jun 2012, 19:20
Are those New Forest ponies chasing the Hudson?

Holmsley South or Stoney Cross?

Noyade
5th Jun 2012, 21:48
Pure dumb luck mate, but a NZ forum member uses it as a "siggy"...

Wings Over New Zealand - Don't forget to switch out the light. (http://rnzaf.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=16437)

Norfolk Island April 1943.

sabredog
5th Jun 2012, 21:54
That is the one,Graeme.
YHC.

Noyade
5th Jun 2012, 22:18
Thanks Terrence.

Couldn't see this on Mel's list....

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9905/img707u.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/img707u.jpg/)

Duckbutt
5th Jun 2012, 22:50
Long shot, could it be Mildenhall?

Noyade
6th Jun 2012, 04:17
Sorry mate, but according to the caption, not Mildenhall

TheChitterneFlyer
6th Jun 2012, 07:35
RAF Wittering.

Interesting that a different article states a different date...

On 8 July 1936, the first Royal Visit to RAF Wittering took place. This visit by King Edward VIII, accompanied by his brother the Duke of York and the Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Sir Edward Ellington, was also historic in that His Majesty flew in his scarlet and blue Rapide aircraft from his private aerodrome in Windsor Great Park to Northolt and then on to Wittering to become Britain’s first flying King.

TCF

Noyade
6th Jun 2012, 08:17
RAF Wittering

Well done. :ok:

Your control.

TheChitterneFlyer
7th Jun 2012, 08:35
Sorry for the delay... Open House.

Duckbutt
7th Jun 2012, 10:38
Here's another then:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz71-1.jpg

sabredog
7th Jun 2012, 11:18
Ardmore Airfield,Manurewa,N.Z?
Druine Turbulent .ZK-BWE

Duckbutt
7th Jun 2012, 11:47
Got me again Sabredog, all yours.

sabredog
7th Jun 2012, 12:03
Thank you,DB. The topography was a good clue!
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz120.jpg

India Four Two
8th Jun 2012, 09:40
Germany or Holland?

sabredog
8th Jun 2012, 10:18
Sorry,Simon. Neither Germany or occupied Netherlands, some useful clues in the photograph though!

chevvron
8th Jun 2012, 10:59
From the camouflage it would appear to be in GB, is that what you mean by 'useful clues'?

olympus
8th Jun 2012, 11:52
RAF Fairlop, satellite to Hornchurch?

sabredog
8th Jun 2012, 12:24
Indeed it is,Olympus. R.A.F. Fairlop, Essex,U.K.
YHC.

olympus
8th Jun 2012, 13:40
Thanks sabredog.

Can't see this one on the list...

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/mini-airfield41.jpg

sabredog
8th Jun 2012, 15:12
175 Sqdn., R.A.F.Warmwell,Dorset?

olympus
8th Jun 2012, 15:32
Correct sd; you have control.

sabredog
8th Jun 2012, 17:15
Many thanks,Olympus. You certainly find some interesting challenges.
The next is somewhat prosaic in comparison;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz122.jpg

chevvron
8th Jun 2012, 20:09
Hampstead Norris?

sabredog
8th Jun 2012, 20:24
Sorry,Chevvron,not Hampstead Norris.

SilentHandover
8th Jun 2012, 20:52
RAF Scorton?

sabredog
8th Jun 2012, 21:54
You are correct, SilentHandover.
RAF Scorton,North Yorkshire, was a satellite station of RAF Catterick.
Well done.
YHC.

chevvron
9th Jun 2012, 04:03
Amazing; Catterick was minute compared to Scorton. I say 'was' because have you seen what the army have done there? Built houses along edge of the runway!! Shouldn't be allowed.

SilentHandover
9th Jun 2012, 06:17
Thank you sabredog. Try this one.
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n568/SilentHandover/SHO99.jpg

sabredog
9th Jun 2012, 06:52
Nyoma A.L.S.,Ladakh,India.

SilentHandover
9th Jun 2012, 06:58
Quite right sabredog, YHC :ok:

sabredog
9th Jun 2012, 08:11
Thank you,SilentHandover.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/QUIZ123.jpg

Noyade
9th Jun 2012, 10:42
Muddy and wet? Asia?

sabredog
9th Jun 2012, 13:02
Equatorial,but not Asia, Noyade.

jindabyne
9th Jun 2012, 13:45
King Air, somewhere over PNG?

sabredog
9th Jun 2012, 14:34
Not PNG, jindabyne. You are too far east.

Cows getting bigger
9th Jun 2012, 16:12
I'm thinking Central Africa. Liberia, Congo, Sierra Leone.

sabredog
9th Jun 2012, 16:41
Thinking along the correct lines, cgb.

twochai
10th Jun 2012, 03:41
Warri, Nigeria?

sabredog
10th Jun 2012, 06:38
Further south than Nigeria, Twochai.
It is a privately owned landing strip owned by a well known company.

Cows getting bigger
10th Jun 2012, 08:12
Finally got it. I think it s the Shell owned airstrip, Rabi in Gabon.

OH if correct.

sabredog
10th Jun 2012, 08:39
Your perseverance has paid off,CGB.
The Shell Airstrip at Rabi,Gabon,Africa,is correct.
CGB has declared;
Open House

Noyade
10th Jun 2012, 09:38
Last time I looked, this wasn't on Mel's list...

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7947/img634y.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/img634y.jpg/)

sabredog
10th Jun 2012, 10:56
Randolph Field, Texas ?

Noyade
10th Jun 2012, 10:58
Yes it is. Well done mate, your control. :ok:

sabredog
10th Jun 2012, 11:03
Thank you,Graeme.
Apologies,but it must be;
Open House

India Four Two
11th Jun 2012, 06:08
sd,

Your loss is my gain. A very atmospheric photo:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WAD11June.jpg

Another in the series "I'm surprised it hasn't been done before"

sabredog
11th Jun 2012, 06:58
R.T.A.F.B. Nakhon Phanom,Thailand. USAF Douglas A-26K Invader 609th Special Operations Squadron .
Splendid photograph,Simon.

India Four Two
11th Jun 2012, 08:42
Terrence,

The early bird catches the worm! An A-26K and PSP. It couldn't be anywhere else but NKP.

Given the reputation of the Air Commandos for eccentric uniforms, the ground crewman is very smartly turned out.

You have control.

PS It looks like sandbag chocks with no ropes attached. Great care required during chocks-away!

sabredog
11th Jun 2012, 09:34
Thank you,Simon.
The next is from a somewhat earlier period and conflict.
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz124.jpg

SilentHandover
12th Jun 2012, 08:13
Occupied France in WW2?

MReyn24050
12th Jun 2012, 09:40
I would go for France also but WWI?

sabredog
12th Jun 2012, 11:19
France, WW1 is correct,Gentlemen.Not a "French" aerodrome originally, and I believe the photograph was taken in 1918.

Lordflasheart
12th Jun 2012, 16:52
Saint-Inglevert RFC/RAF, Pas-de-Calais (France) ?
The old site, not the current aerodrome.

sabredog
12th Jun 2012, 21:10
I am afraid not,LFH, it is not St.Inglevert.
This aerodrome was built on occupied French soil for the Imperial German Flying Corps, and Manfred Von Richthofen was stationed there at the start of his flying career. The aerodrome was under new management when the photograph was taken!

Airclues
13th Jun 2012, 08:03
Bertincourt?

OH if correct

Dave

sabredog
13th Jun 2012, 09:26
Sorry,Airclues. Not Betincourt.
The photograph is from the Web, and was not scanned from a publication.

descol
13th Jun 2012, 10:21
France - WW1 ? - how about Moville - ex German ?

sabredog
13th Jun 2012, 12:47
Could you check the spelling?
I think you are pretty well there.

descol
13th Jun 2012, 13:23
Sabredog
Should be Morville ! OH if correct !
descol

sabredog
13th Jun 2012, 13:53
Mont-Morville Aerodrome is correct,descol. Well done.
Home to Kagohl 2/ Kasta 8,flying the LFG Roland C.II.
Ltn. Manfred von Richthofen was a member of the squadron in 1916.
Descol has declared ;
Open House.

jindabyne
13th Jun 2012, 18:41
Sabredog,
Could you point me to that web page please?

sabredog
13th Jun 2012, 20:31
By all means, jindabyne.
I hope the links work satisfactorly for you ;
riseofflight.com • View topic - Photos of a DH4 pilot (http://riseofflight.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=29787)
GERMANY - 1916 LFG ROLAND C.II PT.2 | Article - Tue 06 Dec 2011 07:56:00 AM UTC | airsoc.com, reach for the sky. (http://airsoc.com/articles/view/id/4eddefe7c6f8fa246f000006/germany-1916-lfg-roland-c-ii-pt-2?ev=10&evp=tl)

jindabyne
13th Jun 2012, 20:34
Excellent - many thanks for that!

seacue
15th Jun 2012, 01:16
I think that sabredog's declaration of an OpenHouse still stands.

I submit very easy challenge to keep things moving.

http://members.toast.net/rcarpen/image2a.jpg

sabredog
15th Jun 2012, 07:14
San Juan Airport,PR?

seacue
15th Jun 2012, 10:58
Yes, sabredog, the San Juan airport KSJU

You have control, again.

For extra credit, identify the airlines.

sabredog
15th Jun 2012, 11:48
Many thanks,Seacue.
DC3 . Air BVI
C-46s. Shamrock?
Connie. Quisqueyana?

The next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz128.jpg

seacue
15th Jun 2012, 15:39
I blurred out the "AIR BVI" sign on the DC-3. At least some of the C-46s seen at San Juan were those of Air Haiti.

I don't have any idea of the location of the current challenge.

Ridge Runner
15th Jun 2012, 15:45
those look like Hawker machines? And DH bipes? But not UK!

JW411
15th Jun 2012, 15:50
The L-1049 was probably Aerochaga from the Dominican Republic.

Incidentally, I was in the congo line at San Juan one day in my DC-10 and we had a DC-3, DC-4, DC-6, DC-7 and DC-8 in front of us. I commented to Ground Control that we were just missing a DC-9 to make up a set.

"Don't worry" said he "There's one just coming" and an Air Antilles DC-9 came round the corner!

Quite remarkable.

sycamore
15th Jun 2012, 15:56
2 deH. 86Bs,Hawkers,looks like a Wapiti,Heyford and possibly a Swordfish,all beside the sea-side ,or lakeside..? Egypt or Iraq ?

sabredog
15th Jun 2012, 16:19
Sorry,Sycamore, not Egypt or Iraq.

SilentHandover
15th Jun 2012, 18:17
How about RNAS Maydown?

sabredog
15th Jun 2012, 18:29
Not RNAS. Maydown,Silenthandover, but very warm.

descol
16th Jun 2012, 11:30
SHO - was warm - then perhaps Sydenham ?

sabredog
16th Jun 2012, 14:09
You are correct,Descol.
Sydenham Airport,Ulster, taken in 1938.
YHC.

descol
17th Jun 2012, 07:30
thanks sabredog - SHO's post did it
Here's one to keep things going - If it has been before apologies

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/prune16-1.jpg

SilentHandover
17th Jun 2012, 08:24
Roberts International Airport, Liberia?

descol
17th Jun 2012, 10:10
Correct SHO - Joseph Jenkins Roberts - Liberia - with its 3,400 m strip for space shuttle
over to you

SilentHandover
17th Jun 2012, 10:42
Thank you descol.
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n568/SilentHandover/SHO199.jpg

Off out for the day so will no doubt come back to a correct answer from sabredog this evening :ok:

olympus
17th Jun 2012, 12:08
Krasnovodsk International Airport aka Turkmenbashi Int. Airport?

SilentHandover
17th Jun 2012, 17:23
Olympus has it, YHC. :ok:

olympus
17th Jun 2012, 19:18
Thanks SH.

I don't think this rather battered airfield has appeared before...

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/mini-airfield42.jpg

olympus
19th Jun 2012, 12:28
Time for a clue...

This airfield changed hands (several times?) during the war and today is a major international airport.

nvubu
19th Jun 2012, 18:23
North Africa?

olympus
19th Jun 2012, 21:00
North Africa?

Yes.......

nvubu
19th Jun 2012, 21:32
Benghazi ..... ?

olympus
19th Jun 2012, 21:37
Benghazi ..... ?

And the name of the airfield is...?

nvubu
19th Jun 2012, 22:11
Benghazi Benina International Airport
RAF Benina

olympus
20th Jun 2012, 11:41
That's the one!:ok:

Over to you.

nvubu
20th Jun 2012, 17:51
Thank you Olympus. Do you know was the airfield called by the Luftwaffe as I couldn't find that?

Here's the next mystery airfield
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20120620A.jpg

Lordflasheart
20th Jun 2012, 18:56
Blimey that's not much of an airfield (min 10,000 x 150 ft Full length taxiway and bothways ILS please) Is that a formation takeoff, a runway incursion or an "Exercise Fire Fire Fire !" ? At least it's into wind. All :). Working on it. LFH

olympus
20th Jun 2012, 19:52
nvubu

My source for the photo was 'Wings Over North Africa' by AVM Dudgeon. The caption to the photo refers to the recent capture of Benina airfield from the Italians who had left a number of damaged aircraft among the burnt-out hangars and pitted roads.

I would assume that the Luftwaffe knew it as Benina as well.

Tacklebury
20th Jun 2012, 22:05
I was under the impression that challenges should be obtained from the Web rather than an individual's private library. Little wonder it was difficult to track down without the clues,even though I had checked Benina!

seacue
20th Jun 2012, 23:55
As originator of Mk I of this thread, I certainly didn't / don't feel that challenges ought to be based on pictures available from Web sites. Using Web images encourages people to win by letting Google Images do the searching.

Lordflasheart
21st Jun 2012, 08:25
As a newcomer to Which Aerodrome, I was certainly under the impression that photos were acceptable from any source including private, on the basis of "If its an aerodrome – its an aerodrome " - unless you prefer to call it an airfield, or if there are not enough clues to identify a deceased aerodrome.

The only specific limitation I've seen was to edit out commercial references, though I saw a reasonable exhortation – not to post endless google earth overhead pictures.

I thoroughly enjoy the chase even though I rarely succeed and I wouldn't want to see excellent photos excluded because they were (or were not) not from a specific media source. I certainly hope to find the odd one or two from my own personal snaps or books.

So I wondered what led Tacklebury to make the comment he did – and I wondered if it was in reference to a particular picture.

It first occurred to me that it might have been my remark above - referring to the old Argosy "Blimey that's not much of an airfield ...." If I gave the impression from my remark that I was criticising that or any other challenge, I apologise profusely. Nothing could be further from the truth - I think that's a smashing challenge and even though I'm unlikely to get the answer, it won't stop me looking. Its just that in the olden days I was aeronautically predisposed to need 10,000 ft of concrete etc.

I did eventually realise that Mr T was referring to Benina – a photo apparently taken from a book.

Then I looked up my crib for posting pictures – culled from various PPRuNe sources and found the first sentence I'd copied -

"To post a picture on PPRuNe, it has to be on a website already - whether your own or someone else's. If it's not, all is not lost ...... "

So I wondered if the phrase I underlined above had been accidentally misinterpreted by Tacklebury - I read that instruction to mean – "you can't copy and paste a picture directly onto PPRuNe - you have to supply a website link" which can include – in my case, placing my challenge (from whatever source) in my own secured Photobucket album and following the instructions for posting the link on PPRuNe.

That is to say, I don't see any restriction that requires a Which Aerodrome challenge to be taken exclusively from the internet, nor do I see any restriction that specifically or even indirectly excludes private photos or stuff from books and the like. Respectfully, LFH

Tacklebury
21st Jun 2012, 09:10
Apologies for starting a "knife fight in a phone booth", that really was not my intention. This is a first class Thread, with great contributions from all participants, no matter what source from whence they came.
Once again,apologies to all concerned, and thanks to Seacue and LFH for their responses.
Back to nuvbu's bucolic challenge!

nvubu
21st Jun 2012, 12:25
To clear this up - this airfield image is also from a book. :ok:

Tacklebury
21st Jun 2012, 12:41
Very obviously so,nvubu!

nvubu
21st Jun 2012, 17:57
I find that when posting an image already on the web, that a certain person has a seemingly encylopedic knowledge of all existing pictures, and gets it first time :ok:

Time for a clue or two.

It has a very interesting history.

At the time of this image, the airfield was a private concern, although it was taken over by the RAF during WWII - although you may not find it on some lists as such.

It is not used for flying today, but it is in regular use for other activities.

To assist LFH :D, I think the grass runways were approx 3500' & 2500' running approx N/S & E/W (measurements by GE). Any Help? :ok:

If these don't help, more clues later tonight

nvubu
21st Jun 2012, 18:20
Not Ratcliffe

Tempsford
21st Jun 2012, 18:34
Woburn Abbey?

nvubu
21st Jun 2012, 19:09
not Woburn Abbey, although moving in the right direction

olympus
21st Jun 2012, 20:24
Badminton?

nvubu
21st Jun 2012, 21:27
not Badminton - although there is a horsey link.
nor Radlett - but getting closer

further clue. Aircraft assembly took place here during the war.

Further research reveals that there might only have been one runway - the shorter East West one, so possible apologies for the earlier info.

The USAAF were also based here.

jindabyne
21st Jun 2012, 21:43
Where's sabredog?

nvubu
21st Jun 2012, 21:53
Woodley is closer than Radlett - you're 12-13 miles away :ok:

Ther airfield was used in the 1950s, and almost probably into the 1960s.

nvubu
21st Jun 2012, 22:19
Langley Airfield is even closer :ooh:

chevvron
21st Jun 2012, 22:55
Can't be Hanworth or Heston 'cos they've been done before. Smith's Lawn was used for aircraft assembly but no USAAF presence that I know of. This leaves Aldermaston which had an MAP area and was used by USAAF.

nvubu
22nd Jun 2012, 06:05
chevvron has it, but by exclusion, as it is Smith's Lawn.

The photo is of TRH Prince of Wales and Prince George flew by Imperial Airways Argosy G-EBLF City of Glasgow (Captain Gordon Olley) from France to Smith’s Lawn, Windsor Great Park, on their return home from a South American tour.

In 1940 an air-raid on the Vickers Armstrong aircraft factory at Weybridge forced VA to relocate to Smith's Lawn where from the 1920s a grass airstrip already existed for use mainly by the Prince of Wales. The site was used for the assembly of, for example, high altitude Wellington bombers.

There were two brick hangers, one situated near the road that comes in from Cheesemans Gate where fuselage sections were built. the second hangar, the Flight Hangar, was where the aircraft were completed. During the war, 64 Wellington Mk VIs were assembled on Smith's Lawn and some aircraft were modified to carry an airborne lifeboat quite possibly tested on Virginia Water which still had some water in it. Two examples of this lifeboat, that would be dropped to ditched airmen, remain at Brooklands to this day.

The airfield was camouflaged with dummy hay stacks and canvas lorries. The east-west runway was always grass and unlit. A compass swinging base was located near Smith's Lawn Cottages.

For most of the war, this whole area, including Virginia Water, was closed to the public although young lads sometimes sneaked through the surrounding woods to watch what was going on.

In 1940 the airfield had been used by Hawker Hurricane fighter aircraft, designed by Sydney Camm born in Windsor and educated at the Royal Free School.

Douglas Dakotas (DC3s) were permanently stationed at Smiths Lawn and later the 27th Transport Group of the United States Army Air Force (USAAF) who set up an operating base of wooden and canvas huts near Cumberland Gate, under the large trees. The camouflage nets covering the hangars were very effective and from a distance looked like ploughed fields.

On one occasion an air battle took place overhead resulting in a German Messerschmitt ME 109 crashing in the Cavalry Exercise Ground. Amazingly the pilot came out of the aircraft almost unhurt and was taken prisoner.

The Duke of Edinburgh used to fly from it, and it is now a Polo Field.

The airfield was also mentioned a few pages ago, whick reminded me that I had this photo of it.

chevvron has control

Gulfstreamaviator
22nd Jun 2012, 07:17
Look at F1.

Please how can more people get involved, rather than the automated searcher that is running the forum.

Glf

descol
22nd Jun 2012, 08:55
I guess there may be approx 1,500 images on Mel's List - that's some collection - - As Del Shannon said in 1965 - 'Keep Searchin'

chevvron
22nd Jun 2012, 10:03
Never thought I'd get that one as I was totally unaware the USAAF used Smith's Lawn.
Years ago there was a book called 'Beneath the City Streets' which mentioned an 'underground aircraft factory' under nearby Wentworth Golf Course. I've often wondered if the Wimpeys assembled at Smiths Lawn were actually built in this factory.

Open House

PS: Further to the remarks by Tacklebury; the only time I've used 'the web' to provide an answer is when the photo is a 'vertical' of an airfield, otherwise I've used personal knowledge either from my own explorations, or from Plaistow books or Action Stations books. (sorry about the adverts but I think it's justified)
I think it's too easy if you can just find the exact photo on the internet anyway.

SilentHandover
22nd Jun 2012, 10:31
May I take up the OH from Chevvron

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n568/SilentHandover/SHO222.jpg

chevvron
22nd Jun 2012, 10:43
Is that an airfield? it looks more like the POW interrogation centre at Barnes!
If it is an airfield my bid is Graveley (Hunts)

SilentHandover
22nd Jun 2012, 10:45
It is, not one I had heard of until a friend flew in there earlier this week. You are looking at the pilots ready room I believe.

sabredog
22nd Jun 2012, 10:48
Stow Maries Aerodrome.
P.Ms for NVUBU,Seacue and Gulfstreamdriver.
No automation, just a knowledge of ex RFC aerodrome architecture.

SilentHandover
22nd Jun 2012, 10:52
That's the one, sabredog yhc :ok:

sabredog
22nd Jun 2012, 11:44
Many thanks,LFH.
P.M. for you shortly.
For the moment;
Open house.

nvubu
22nd Jun 2012, 11:57
chevvron - there's also a painting by Charles Cundall, dating from 1944, illustrates 'Planes of the United States Air Force on Smith's Lawn'.

look forward to the PM SD.

chevvron
22nd Jun 2012, 15:20
1944 and he was allowed to give out the location? I wasn't alive then, but surely it should have been 'somewhere in England'!

nvubu
22nd Jun 2012, 18:32
As it's open house, here's an easy one - it has been done before, but with a modern photo

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20120622A.jpg

sabredog
22nd Jun 2012, 19:50
F4F Wildcat of VMF 221. Wake Island ?

nvubu
22nd Jun 2012, 20:01
Correct as it is Midway - Over to you SD.

edit: I saw Wake Island there before the edit :ok:

sabredog
22nd Jun 2012, 20:11
Apologies,nvubu.
I really cannot take that one, as I went for Wake Island and not Midway.

YHC.

nvubu
22nd Jun 2012, 20:47
OK SD, here's another one:

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/Untitled.jpg

SilentHandover
22nd Jun 2012, 22:10
That's a lovely cloud in the background, no idea where it is so a random guess Port Philip Bay, Melbourne?

nvubu
22nd Jun 2012, 22:22
Sorry SH, wrong continent.

The image is lacking in features other than that cloud - so here is a photo of the overnight hotel - which is still there, although somewhat changed.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20120622C.jpg

Noyade
22nd Jun 2012, 23:25
wrong continent.Somewhere in Africa mate?....

East coast?...

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9809/img015te.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/img015te.jpg/)

Lordflasheart
22nd Jun 2012, 23:29
West Coast ? Freetown ? LFH

albatross
23rd Jun 2012, 04:24
Bermuda? Open house if correct.

nvubu
23rd Jun 2012, 05:33
It's one of the locations on the map :ok:

sabredog
23rd Jun 2012, 07:29
Lake Victoria (Port Bell) Kenya. Source; "Merchant Airman" by H.M. Stationery Office,1946 at 2/- net.

nvubu
23rd Jun 2012, 07:51
Hmmmm... not sure I should give that to you SD as your source has the country wrong. :confused: It's shown in the correct country on the map :D

I'm just popping out for a couple of hours, so once you've corrected the country, feel free to take control.

Hint: It's the Pearl of Africa you want.:ok:

Airclues
23rd Jun 2012, 08:25
I'm sure that sabredog actually meant Uganda.

Dave

PS. Is that building now part of the Lake Victoria Hotel? Stayed there in 1969 with BOAC and it looks familiar.

sabredog
23rd Jun 2012, 09:35
The source (and Airclues) has the correct country,Uganda. It was I who had the mental block!

Airclues
23rd Jun 2012, 10:23
I'm sure everyone will agree that the name is more important than the country. Therefore I believe that sabredog has control.

Dave

nvubu
23rd Jun 2012, 10:59
He does have control - I was being pedantic as he is usually so accurate.

Although in this region there might have been an issue as names change, and so do country borders - e.g. Port Florence (Kisumu) was the terminus of the Uganda railway, this was in Uganda at the time. It was decided that as the rest of the railway was in Kenya that the border should be changed changed to incorporate it. It was changed and the railway, still called the Uganda Railway, no longer went to Uganda. Couple of very interesting books on this region: The Lunatic Express: An Entertainment in Imperialism and The White Nile by Alan Moorehead.

Airclues: the hotel is the Silver Springs hotel, which is on the road from Port Bell to Kampala. It has changed completely since this photo, even in the last 10 years it has been rebuilt since I knew it in the 90's/00's.

Lake Victoria Hotel in Entebbe is largely unchanged, although they have moved the entrance from where you would have known it to round the back - and rather scruffy and downbeat, and the entrance and drive is now a terrace and pathways through the gardens.

SD - over to you

sabredog
23rd Jun 2012, 11:14
Thank you,nvubu and Airclues. I misread the caption to the photograph which was exactly the same as the challenge, complete with the CB .
The next, more modern challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz130-1.jpg

Capot
23rd Jun 2012, 14:34
Bit of a long shot.....Tabarka?

sabredog
23rd Jun 2012, 14:42
Sorry, but it is not Tabarka ,Capot.

jindabyne
24th Jun 2012, 10:54
Brac, Croatia - I think!

sabredog
24th Jun 2012, 11:27
Indeed it is,jindabyne. Brac airport,Croatia is correct.
Well done.
YHC

jindabyne
24th Jun 2012, 14:56
Thanks - bit busy for now, so OH

descol
24th Jun 2012, 15:06
try this one
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/pprunesun.jpg

sabredog
24th Jun 2012, 16:25
Masterton airport,Wairarapa,New Zealand.

descol
25th Jun 2012, 07:53
yep - sabredog it's Hood / Masterton - on NZs North Island - home of NZs sports and vintage aviation society - over to you

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/hood.jpg

sabredog
25th Jun 2012, 08:46
Thank you ,descol. Following the D.H. Mosquito theme, and should not be too hard to nail.
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz132.jpg

sabredog
25th Jun 2012, 16:47
Sorry,Jenkins,not Seletar,although I can see your reasoning.

jindabyne
25th Jun 2012, 20:51
St Francois Xavier, Manitoba

sabredog
25th Jun 2012, 22:31
You are correct,jindabyne. Well done.
YHC

evansb
25th Jun 2012, 22:58
I am curious about the photo claimed to be at the St. Francois Xavier, Manitoba aerodrome.

I know of no BCATP/RCAF airfield at this location. St. Francois Xavier is a rural municipality and the community is no more than a hamlet. There is a single 3,000 ft. airstrip of turf/earth/gravel , but no remnant of an aerodrome with a substantial structure such as depicted in the photo with the Mosquito.

Can you direct me to the photo's web site ? Thank you.

sabredog
26th Jun 2012, 07:01
P.M. on it's way,Bri. Could well be an incorrect photograph caption.
Although there is a question mark over the airfield identification, jindabyne answered in good faith,so still has control.
Over to you,jindabyne.

jindabyne
26th Jun 2012, 09:08
Try this ----

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb59/malgrosse/uuuuu.jpg

merlinxx
26th Jun 2012, 10:12
Got to be West Wales or Cornwall :confused: Loads of mobile homes/caravans ? Raddz horrors there:ugh:

flyingwing
26th Jun 2012, 10:24
Balyhalbert NI. OH if correct

jindabyne
26th Jun 2012, 13:22
Correct flyingwing - OH it is!

nvubu
26th Jun 2012, 17:50
Going back in time here:

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20120626A.jpg

Lordflasheart
26th Jun 2012, 19:25
Is that BC or AD time, Hippo ? :) LFH

sabredog
26th Jun 2012, 20:18
Littlestone (Jesson) Airfield, Romney,Kent.

nvubu
26th Jun 2012, 21:30
No catching you out this time - YHC

sabredog
26th Jun 2012, 21:45
Open House

Noyade
26th Jun 2012, 22:15
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4907/img012ts.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/i/img012ts.jpg/)

Lordflasheart
27th Jun 2012, 00:24
Doha, Qatar - ca. 1991 ? LFH

Noyade
27th Jun 2012, 02:17
Well done Flash. :ok:

YHC.

Lordflasheart
27th Jun 2012, 06:45
Thank you Graeme. Gulf War II. Lets see if this works - LFH

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/WAD007LFH.jpg

sabredog
27th Jun 2012, 11:02
High River Air Station,Alberta,Canada. c.1920

Lordflasheart
27th Jun 2012, 13:15
Correct Sabredog SiR.

High River Air Station, Alberta, 1920s. Elev 3390 ft. Probably DH-4s, with four ex-RFC Bessoneau hangars.

During WWII No 5 EFTS relocated from Lethbridge to High River (due to the frequent high winds at Lethbridge.) Three runways, two hangars and a major camp were built – with 106 Classes graduated for the BCATP, initially on Tiger Moths, then Cornells.

This tells the story http://www.bombercommandmuseum.ca/bcatphighriver.html (http://www.bombercommandmuseum.ca/bcatphighriver.html)

And now it's all gone apart from one hangar and the RCAF flag. You can just make out the runways in the 2002 GE overhead. LFH

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/WAD007CLFH.jpg



Sabredog has control.

sabredog
27th Jun 2012, 16:08
Thank you,LFH,and my apologies for the delay.
P.M. to follow.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz133.jpg

Ridge Runner
27th Jun 2012, 16:14
somewhere in Iraq, possibly??

olympus
27th Jun 2012, 17:25
I think this picture shows damage at Clark AFB in the Philippines caused by fall-out from the eruption of Mt Pinatubo (sp?) and which ultimately led to the closure of the base. (Google Images not used!)

sabredog
27th Jun 2012, 19:38
Clark A.F.B. is correct, Olympus.
YHC

olympus
27th Jun 2012, 20:32
Thanks SD; this is the next challenge...

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/mini-airfield43.jpg

sycamore
27th Jun 2012, 21:40
`Playing to the Goofers again,Hoskins; This could all end in tears..!!`
Bader at Woodley,perhaps..?

ed.forget that ; Think it`s a Snipe,,same on the ground,and probably UK ,not Iraq....Like the Cromwell `bone-dome`...

olympus
28th Jun 2012, 11:14
Sycamore, a good try but rethink the location. Actually, it didn't all end in tears as the Fg Off pilot of the Snipe (for that is what it is) ended up as MRAF.

Noyade
28th Jun 2012, 11:27
Absolutely no idea, but a wonderful photo. :ok:

Any chance this was part of a movie or documentary, just seems a very 'visual' shot?

sabredog
28th Jun 2012, 12:57
No1 Squadron Hangars,R.A.F. Hinaidi,IRAQ. F/O. Dermot Boyle at the controls.

olympus
28th Jun 2012, 14:54
Correct SD, you have control.

Noyade - no idea if this is a frame from a movie; the caption reads '...taken by a camera fastened to the fin of Fg Off Boyle's Snipe'.

sabredog
28th Jun 2012, 18:01
Thank you,Olympus. Always knew that Michael Shaw's history of No1. Squadron would be useful one day.
The next.
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz134.jpg

SilentHandover
29th Jun 2012, 19:33
Central or Southern Americas?

sabredog
29th Jun 2012, 19:54
Good ranging shot,SHO. I take my hat off to you!
The airfield is situated in the southern part of Central America,and the country has strong culturally and historical links to South America.

Lordflasheart
30th Jun 2012, 22:57
Its very quiet. Is it Wimbledon ? LFH

Airclues
1st Jul 2012, 08:00
It can't be Wimbledon LFH......sabredog says that it's in Central America.

Dave

sabredog
1st Jul 2012, 08:22
Very good,Airclues.
Just to move the thread on,here is a more modern photograph of the airfield, now under civilian control.
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Clue2.jpg

TheChitterneFlyer
1st Jul 2012, 09:00
Balboa / Howard AFB (BLB)


Open House if correct.

TCF

Lordflasheart
1st Jul 2012, 09:13
Actually I think you've got two different fields there SD.

First – (to the West) is the old Howard AFB - as TCF correctly says – now Aeropuerto ... ... Panama Pacifico.

Second (to the East) is I think, Marcos Gelabert "Intl" - the former Albrook Field.

About 5 miles apart, either side of the Panama Canal – Pacific entrance.

LFH.

ps thanks Dave, I was referring to El Wimbledon in the former British Honduras. :)

sabredog
1st Jul 2012, 10:15
The ChitterneFlyer is correct. First photograph is Howard AFB, Panama Zone.
The second photograph,although captioned as Howard/Balboa,is in fact Albrook Field
CF has declared;
Open House.

descol
1st Jul 2012, 11:07
could not guess that one SD - as its OH try this

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/PPRUNE1.jpg

sabredog
1st Jul 2012, 13:26
Pagasa (Hope island), one of the contested Spratly islands in the South China Sea?

descol
1st Jul 2012, 15:47
Yep SD -its Kalayann Island - I think it is occupied by the Philipines ?
over to you

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/kalayaan.jpg

sabredog
1st Jul 2012, 17:12
Thank you,Descol.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz134-1.jpg

India Four Two
1st Jul 2012, 17:33
Thitu Island. Names are complicated around here, depending on where you are from.

Philippine: Pagasa, literally "hope" (part of the Kelayaan Islands)
Chinese: Zhōngyč Dǎo;
Vietnamese: Đảo Thị Tứ

Occupied by the Philippines since 1970

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/Spratly_Is_since_NalGeoMaps.png

descol
1st Jul 2012, 17:42
IF2
Yes names are complicated out there is the Spratley's - trust I got Kalayaan correctly named ?

SD
Your post looks Med - can't guess right now - will be back later

sabredog
1st Jul 2012, 18:11
Nearly there,Descol.

descol
2nd Jul 2012, 08:06
OK SD - I think its Mykonos ?
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/mykonos.jpg

sabredog
2nd Jul 2012, 13:25
Your thought is correct,Descol, it is Mykonos. Well done.
YHC.

descol
2nd Jul 2012, 14:32
SD - I thought so - I have nothing to post at present so OH

seacue
2nd Jul 2012, 20:30
I submit this image as a challenge. It's either very easy ... or very difficult.

http://members.toast.net/rcarpen/whatdrome.jpg

seacue
3rd Jul 2012, 07:13
Time for a hint.

That bright strip on the horizon (just above the bushes) is ocean.

seacue
3rd Jul 2012, 14:29
Another hint: Atlantic Ocean

Ridge Runner
3rd Jul 2012, 14:44
Stauning????

seacue
3rd Jul 2012, 15:21
It's not Stauning. Wrong continent.

nvubu
3rd Jul 2012, 18:09
Looks like an image from a webcam?

And the north of North America?

sabredog
3rd Jul 2012, 18:34
Ocracoke Airport,
Ocracoke, NC

seacue
3rd Jul 2012, 18:39
Oh course sabredog has it correct.... KW95. Ocracoke Airport. They have a Webcam: Ocracoke Island Airport (http://www.ocracokeairport.com/)


Sabredog has control.

Editteedd for spellling.;

sabredog
3rd Jul 2012, 19:51
Many thanks,Seacue. I thought at first it might be Billy Mitchell Field,N.C.,but further research brought me to kw95. Good challenge.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/QUIZ135.jpg

TheChitterneFlyer
3rd Jul 2012, 22:34
Wycombe Air Park?

sabredog
4th Jul 2012, 06:33
Sorry,TheChitterneFlyer,not Wycombe Air park,although there is a strong resemblance.

sycamore
4th Jul 2012, 10:34
Lydd ,years ago..?

sabredog
4th Jul 2012, 11:30
Sorry Sycamore and Jenkins,not Lydd or Glasgow.

descol
4th Jul 2012, 11:57
maybe Barton ?

Cows getting bigger
4th Jul 2012, 13:22
Now a major car factory - Usworth?