Which Aerodrome Mk III

[Self loading bear]

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1334x750/c726e71c_52ec_46d4_aee1_40f3da667871_9080d8a5e34a370fc7af4fc 46c69dbdacede3dae.png
Hi,

I stumbled over this nice thread a week ago.
I was just too late with Juvincourt.
As I understand open house?
May I present my first challenge?
Also luftwaffe history.

cheers SLB

[dook]

Welkom...………….

[Self loading bear]

Welkom...………….
bedankt
dit is een Makkie voor jou?
SLB

[eckhard]

Deelen? OH if correct.

[jensdad]

Ah yes, it does look like Deelen. If so, did I read somewhere that there were freight or parcel flights from the UK (possibly Luton) to there in the 80s or 90s? Sorry for thread drift. And apologies if I dreamt the parcel flights :)

[Self loading bear]

Deelen it is.
credits to Eckhard.
I never thought it would be difficult but this is quick.
I grew up near Arnhem. Did see the Starfighters fly over and later Alouettes and the first Bolkows from Deelen.
In the 80s and 90s I was studying in Haarlem below the landing route of Schiphol. So I know nothing of the freight flights from Luton. I was in my room in Haarlem when the ElAl freighter dived into the Bijlmermeer (that is opposite of Haarlem from Schiphol so I did not see anything, but it gave some thoughts anyway.

Open House but if Jensdad has a suggestion he can go first.

best regards, SLB

[jensdad]

Thank you and welcome to the thread, SLB. Great memories of the Starfighters!
Eckhard did all the work, until he mentioned Deelen I was thinking it looked like one of the bases in Belgium. So OH :)

[Archer4]

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1620x2000/nostalgia_9242fdb52ba67d36c8fa59223c8754e25201b3d5.jpg

[jensdad]

Hmm, the fields, and the fact that someone has dropped bombs on it in 1943, makes me think mainland Europe. Although the runway layout looks like either US or Royal Navy ...
We aren't still in the Low Countries, are we?

[sycamore]

542 operated Spitfires of various Mks across N.Europe throughout WW2,from Benson.
ORB anyone....?
Could be a before/after a bomber raid..?
about 15 small bombs...
Looks more like a test establishment,only 2-3 aircraft visible...
Any idea if the white lines at the bottom left end of the main runway are an early ILS/FIDO aid...?

[jensdad]

Couldn't be this wee place could it??

''By 1940, Schiphol had four asphalt runways at 45-degree angles, all 1,020 metres (3,350 ft) or less. One was extended to become today's runway 04/22; two others crossed that runway at 52.312°N 4.800°E (https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Amsterdam_Airport_Schiphol&params=52.312_N_4.8_E_type:landmark_region:NL). The airport was captured by the German military that same year and renamed Fliegerhorst Schiphol. A large amount of anti-aircraft defences were installed in the vicinity of the airport and fake decoy airfields were constructed in the vicinity near Bennebroek (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennebroek), Vijfhuizen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijfhuizen) and Vogelenzang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogelenzang) to try to confuse allied bombers. A railway connection was also built. Despite these defences, the airfield was still bombed intensively; an exceptionally heavy attack on 13 December 1943 caused so much damage that it rendered the airfield unusable as an active base.'' (Wikipedia)

[Archer4]

That was quick. Schiphol it is. Jensdad has it.

[jensdad]

Thank you Archer 4. I love the photos on this thread, and the way they lead me to find out stuff about airfields that I thought I was familiar with!
Where's this welcoming little place? https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x222/2011_01_12_istanbul_s_gokcen_3_copy_640x222__679b8a05b33a637 233a82736a0530b2bafab0153.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Very wild guess based on big rise buildings
some hills and watch towers with proper sun awnings

Tel Aviv Ben Gurion?

cheers SLB

[jensdad]

Good work, SLB, but unfortunately it isn't Ben Gurion.

[sycamore]

Much further East...?

[dook]

That's what I am thinking.

Korea or China maybe, such as the China/India border.

[Cubs2jets]

Taipei RCTP.

C2j

[jensdad]

Hi team, it's further west than Ben Gurion and Self loading bear is the closest so far :)

[jensdad]

Let me find my atlas and ruler....

No. Tel Aviv is closer. :)

Apologies, I missed your post about Amman, but Self loading bear is still the closest so far.

[dook]

Is it the new one Ramon ?

Thinking about it that can't be correct as you have said it is west of Ben Gurion.

We must be in Egypt then.

[jensdad]

The plot thickens :) It is west of Tel Aviv, in the same sense that Newcastle is west of Southampton - 'Further west than...' is probably a better way to think of it. We aren't in Egypt.

[dook]

A bit lost in space here.

Dov Hoz ?

[jensdad]

Nope, not Dov Hoz either. But that guess is the closest so far. I had to do some careful measuring with my ruler and atlas to check if TLV or El-Arish were closer to the mystery aerodrome. Dov Hoz is definitely closer to it than Ben Gurion.

[jensdad]

In order of closeness (closest first) : Dov Hoz, Ben Gurion, El-Arish, Amman,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Taipei :)

I'm off out now, will check back in after teatime...

[dook]

I use the distance measuring facility in Google Earth.

It has the advantage that over large distances it measures great circle values.

[dook]

If Dov Hoz is closer then I assume we must be north of Ben Gurion.

My navigation skills have deteriorated since my flying days - able to "put a bomb in a bucket".

All I can find is Herzliya but I don't think that's it.

[nvubu]

Palmahim ?

[dook]

Let me find my atlas and ruler....

I am beginning to think we're not in Israel at all.

[dook]

Palmachim is further from Dov Hoz than Ben Gurion.

[jensdad]

I am beginning to think we're not in Israel at all.
Correct :)

[dook]

The thot plickens even more.

Libya or Turkey ?

[sycamore]

Lebanon...?

[dook]

But we are west of Ben Gurion are we not ?

[jensdad]

The thot plickens even more.

Libya or Turkey ? One of those two. That's the tail of a Wizz Air A320... (and I think everywhere in Libya would be closer to El-Arish than to Ben Gurion :) )

[dook]

Well, Wizz Air don't fly to Libya.

[jensdad]

That's what I'm saying: it's in Turkey :)

[dook]

Suspect Syrian border.

Gaziantep possibly.

[jensdad]

Not Gaziantep. It's in the bit of Turkey that is further west than Tel Aviv. Photo was taken in January 2011...

[Self loading bear]

Not Gaziantep. It's in the bit of Turkey that is further west than Tel Aviv. Photo was taken in January 2011...

There is only on piece of Turkey west of Tel Aviv.
Is it the ?old? Airport just west of Egkomi-Nicosia on Cyprus? My Google Does not show a name to it.
and I could not locatie the eatch towers either.

SLB

[jensdad]

Good try... is it Ercan you're thinking of?
But no, note I've described it as 'further west than' Tel Aviv, rather than 'west of' Tel Aviv. There's quite a bit of Turkey to choose from :)

[Self loading bear]

Edited:
removed Thick finger Iphone sh!t
and ofcourse almost all Turkey is further (North) west of Tel AvivSLB
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x1334/eb297fd2_404f_4cf7_9650_5f8fd0dcdc07_d923b163c33a1c58a2f0b6c f43e5963396090e22.png

[Self loading bear]

Sorry bit wrong copying on my Iphone
but I think Sabiha Gocken in Istanbul.
and from the photo there are watchtowers there.

SLB

[jensdad]

You have it, SLB!! I thought the Wizz Air tail would give it away, but on checking Wikipedia it seems they don't fly there any more, so that might have served as a red herring.
Good investigative work from dook, but SLB has control.

[Self loading bear]

Thanks Jensdad.
After my first guess. I already thought the tail was the clue. But I was looking for a red, black , white tail.
i will have to change my colour settings on my Iphone!

I have a nice quest in mind but have to dig in my old computer.

SLB

[Self loading bear]

New quest,

Photo was taken while in the hover taxi in the same type and operator as on the apron.
I am curious what kind of clues/guesses you can determine from the photo.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1493/img_0567_d620d6bf96c091204a51892aaabad794738dca46.jpg

Cheers SLB

[India Four Two]

Were you traveling to or from an offshore oil platform or drilling rig?

The colour scheme makes me think of PHI, so somewhere on the Gulf Coast?

The photo show dockside cranes, a VLCC(?) and a shallow-water jack-up drilling rig.

[dook]

......but on checking Wikipedia it seems they don't fly there any more, so that might have served as a red herring.

It did with me !

[dook]

An opening shot - Limassol ?

[Self loading bear]

India,

good thinking.
I was indeed flying offshore (I am a Self Loading Bear)
The colour Scheme is indeed PHI.
But one of the pilots was local.
So not Gulf Coast.
What you say about the harbour is correct although I am not sure about your shallow water Jack-up.
I myself was flying to a Semi submersible So deeper water.

Dook
what made you think of Cyprus?
I believe the harbour of Limasol is much smaller.

Cheers SLB

[dook]

Dook
what made you think of Cyprus?

The helicopter type and colours. This led me to the dispute in Cyprus about oil drilling.

You have to try everything on this thread !!

USA ?

[Self loading bear]

The helicopter type and colours. This led me to the dispute in Cyprus about oil drilling.

You have to try everything on this thread !!

USA ?

Good thinking,
But my photo is from 2012.
But probably same helicopters did fly from Cyprus to the same Rig I visited!

https://www.google.nl/amp/www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-cyprus-president-visits-offshore-gas-rig-2011nov21-story,amp.html

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x1334/cc7932ed_90e6_4390_ae68_a47aa6006e42_c9238ce8a3d8a8c07343df4 51bae445352c1d79f.png

[dook]

Sadly the link doesn't work.

You may have missed my question.

USA ?

[Self loading bear]

Sadly the link doesn't work.

You may have missed my question.

USA ?

The link shows the same article as the photo.
I already dismissed the Golf Coast but for you I extend it to the whole of USA.

[dook]

I already dismissed the Golf Coast

Do you mean the Middle East or the Gulf of Mexico ?

[Self loading bear]

Do you mean the Middle East or the Gulf of Mexico ?

all right
Both Gulfs

You may have missed my clue about same Rig and helicopters?

SLB

[dook]

Anything to do with the Levantine Basin ?

I am wondering if we're talking about oil or gas fields.

[Self loading bear]

Anything to do with the Levantine Basin ?

I am wondering if we're talking about oil or gas fields.

Yes Levanthian
which is Gas only

[dook]

Are we near Haifa ?

[dook]

I found this.

http://i64.tinypic.com/30htueo.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Dook,

You dissapoint me a bit.
If you are able to show a photo of the same heli spot, You should be able to tell the exact airport and operator?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1493/img_0566_799e70d1619606715585ac38538893257704cc14.jpg
The neighbours (aircraft maintenance school i believe)

SLB

[dook]

I did ask if we are near Haifa, which I suggest is correct.

It's a PHI helicopter.

[Self loading bear]

Namal Ha Teufa Haifa

It is a Joint venture between Lahak Aviation and PHI.
PHI delivered the helicopters.
At that time they had 1 under Americain registration and the other under Israelian registration.
One pilot Americain the other Israelian.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1493/img_0570_e5560044ddb6ef63cfc852438b4108606f449a94.jpg
You have control.

Cheers SLB

[dook]

Many thanks SLB.

I seem to have spent the whole weekend on this thread, apart from on another private "where" site.

A PM for you shortly.

http://i66.tinypic.com/w9e4bq.jpg

[chevvron]

Tombstone?

[dook]

Good afternoon chevron.

Not USA.

[dook]

PM awaits Self loading bear.

[Self loading bear]

Dook,
Thanks, PM answered already.

Looks like a railroad track going "north" on the photo.
So looking for a country with railroad tracks through rural/desert countries.
And where they might appreciate a railroad as supply route for and airbase?
Former Russia Kazachstan, Oesbekistan and the like spring to mind.
Perhaps Australia
Lots of tracks to cover.
Is the photo orientated north?

SLB

[dook]

The image is orientated to true north.

Not Russia or Australia, but it is a continent......

[sycamore]

SOUTH EFRICA ?

[dook]

Croist min - yes.

[nvubu]

We had this one a month or so ago :)

[dook]

Did we ?

Please tell.

[nvubu]

You posted it as a challenge on 28th August :)
Welsh castle name

[dook]

Hold hands - this is a cockup !!

Posted the wrong image. :ugh:

Your go.

[nvubu]

I spent ages looking around Southern Africa for that one - hence it jumped out at me.
Go ahead, post the correct one

[dook]

That's a generous offer.

Speaking as an ex-fast jet driver, there is seldom a prize for coming second in combat.

http://i67.tinypic.com/264s95x.jpg

[jensdad]

Does it rhyme with your username?

[nvubu]

Greenland ?

[jensdad]

I'll elaborate before nvubu beats me to it... is it Nuuk, dook?

[dook]

It doesn't rhyme with "dook" and it's not in Greenland.

[nvubu]

In the Artic though?

[dook]

Within the arctic circle yes.

[Self loading bear]

Barrow Alaska

Cheers SLB

[dook]

It's not normally known as that but yes.

He scores again.:D

[Self loading bear]

It's not normally known as that but yes.

He scores again.:D

Sorry,
Wiley Post-Will Rogers Memorial Airport
May they fly in peace in the highest Flight Level.

I was scanning the coast of Alaska, Nome etc.
Then I thought it handy to look were the artic circle actually was.
Much farther North.
I looked at Prudhoe Bay and Barrow was the second.

New challenge
The most welcoming place i have encountered.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/472x444/port_health_control_53d42c44f0df645ab6e821796aeba5ef1bbf16eb .jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/474x355/apron_f64eab3214e33e69c8bb3c0d4ddedb688e379543.jpg
Succes
I will be online again tomorrow evening so you can think about it.

SLB

[dook]

PORT was a good clue.

Port Harcourt.

[Self loading bear]

PORT was a good clue.

Port Harcourt.

Port Hacourt it is.
The photos are not my own, as I arrived at 22:45 local (somewhere 2014)
I learned from internet that at least until 2017 the situation had not improved although it looks like they have installed a new arrivals tent.
At least they maintained the Port Health desk ($ 10) and the old airco’s (in a tent!).
after spending 1,5 hours with 300 fellow passengers in that tent waiting on my luggage I had lost some pounds and another $100 to get my laptop through customs.

The departures terminal was brand new at that time.
Since then the international contractor has left 24 containers with unused materials on the airport; have left themselves and have been paid in full.

Only in Nigeria

Dook the stage is yours

Cheers SLB

[dook]

Dis am been de quiet day.

http://i64.tinypic.com/3462vs7.jpg

[chevvron]

Looks like taxiways leading to a cliff for underground aircraft storage.
There was a plan to do this at Ta Qali but it was found to be impractical, so I'd guess it was the 'secret' airbase somewhere north of Groom Lake where Bob Lazar was briefly employed.
He maintained we was flown from Vegas to Groom Lake by one of the Janet flights, then was transported further into the desert in a bus with blacked out windows, to where he was employed on 'back engineering' flying saucers using 'compartmented information'.

[dook]

To the best of my knowledge there is no underground aircraft storage at this airfield.

edit: not USA

[Self loading bear]

Looks like the taxiways ending in trees rather than a cliff. Might be a bunker with trees planten on them?

Might the blue roofs lead us somewhere?
mostly used in Asia?

SLB

[dook]

I don't think there is anything significant in the blue roofs. Asia.

Look closely at the ramp area at the right end of the runway.

[Self loading bear]

Helispots especially for me?
multiple spots says offshore base!

[dook]

Military aeroplanes and not offshore.

[Self loading bear]

Military aeroplanes and not offshore.

Is it me who needs to go to Specsavers?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x913/e09ec3b2_01b7_47d6_8f25_32eacac2ec98_1c7e71c49841eb34af6dc2c 2da121990ad10e51b.jpeg

[dook]

..……

http://i63.tinypic.com/24zy92c.jpg

[Self loading bear]

..……

http://i63.tinypic.com/24zy92c.jpg
Thanks that resoluties was certainly not on the first photo.

[sycamore]

Might be in China...?

[Zaxis]

Kuçovë Air Base, Albania?
Thank you James May and Top Gear

[dook]

Neither, but China is close.

A clue is due shortly methinks.

[Self loading bear]

Kuçovë Air Base, Albania?
Thank you James May and Top Gear

i think it is different but setup is indeed alike.
same Gjader Albania but that is also not 100%

SLB

[dook]

It's in a very secretive country.

[Davidsoffice]

Close to China is Mongolia and a quick goggle shows they have a liking for blue roofs. Don't know where tho.

[dook]

Mongolia is too far away.

The challenge is about 40 miles in a straight line from the Chinese border.

[dook]

I am surprised that nobody has suggested a very secretive country near the Chinese border.

[sycamore]

They`re all pretty secretive around China ,Dook !!

[kcockayne]

I am surprised that nobody has suggested a very secretive country near the Chinese border.
I presume that you are referring to North Korea. I have no knowledge of aerodromes in this country, but I would hazard a guess at Pyong Yang.

[dook]

It is indeed in North Korea.

Try Google Earth and go about 70 miles NNW towards the Chinese border. The field is marked with the Google airport symbol.

[nvubu]

Panghyon Airfield

[dook]

That will do nicely.

Your departure clearance.

[nvubu]

Thank you - you did give the location away somewhat :ok:

For the next aerodrome, we are going back to a time when GE didn't exist.

Or should I say - What hangar?

https://qiqndw.db.files.1drv.com/y4m3T_mGjkTgJBARsIBc3ech-7UZXD0LMFD37FZLo8NdAY397mnX_17KiN4gNJ8ayni3CHyRsHgwnpERCEf7Z uvhm2dvCT4pAQsKTfWAmjXqqog3TwKkQN_tpkVtD4HfvCDYj29f_QxxAsr4y i77FGQdN-ub4b_1Jtim-tLybgn_MaPenEzEVrw6NyaRGnwRr-KZ-Xh4Drc5fxXf477-YAGZg?width=1024&height=794&cropmode=none
Will provide more images later today.

[dook]

you did give the location away somewhat

I don't believe in making things too difficult or protracted.

Don't get the J. M. Barrie bit Jenks.

[nvubu]

Nor do I Jenks, so I can't say yes, no - or even close :)

[dook]

Peter Pan I suspect, and therefore hinting at Pan Am.

[dook]

Thinking about it - USA ?

[sycamore]

Not Panshanger.....???

[sycamore]

J,,but the Q was `..who`s HANGER is this....coat, hat ,door...

[nvubu]

You are putting too much thinking into the question :O
I'm not showing very much of the aerodrome here, hence the "What Hangar" - There is no clue in this that I can think of.

Not Panshanger - tis 5 minutes away from me, and all the hangars have gone from there now..
Not in the USA.

Another piccy in half an hour - when I get home.

[dook]

Anything to do with de Havilland ?

[nvubu]

Nope, not in the UK either.

Here's what is in a hangar

https://klkj7a.db.files.1drv.com/y4mqDEiHGbr0kbbSbmGsu3YStxIEkOlRZeDUIxmXb1GnMRn0oC5_okl_dncA pOQuSI0KowHG7YRfmzDpbmgunYqV49mACWFl9zps53PayyYkExgpuWtSR9OH ZG7mMpYZB1zK-SSipAvXD_ePBwSvGlalKPCnbsBfF3awlikvmSeHmHAtFG2AksCfviAQ3FKy2 gvrWD33r4zf9yJnoLsj93wpA?width=1024&height=766&cropmode=none

https://iwtdvw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mpG6Jp6mf3UGcMqp6kGw6W_tpj6MT6_icw_bnFUGzQVbiKp_sPGrN7en4P 73TFDTPVenOeldUoqhllJSSSx-LuQWnfwrMMB8xQGk_iFp0XXMmUeXftsZ0DY2dnt1AWDhx69SR9Bp1RFIIRa6 JC3qITSAhMoz39Dcr_pWhTTkz341G97MGQwBz6nN3n3A0GT-14q_wdcmXa1YC4CiW3qbZIg?width=1024&height=814&cropmode=none

[dook]

tis 5 minutes away from me

I thought you were in the UK.

[dook]

It looks very similar to a Donnet flying boat so maybe we are in France.

edit : might also be an FBA Type H.

[nvubu]

Panshanger is 5 minutes away from me :)

Yes - somewhere in France.

[dook]

I'm now almost certain it's an FBA Type H boat. Looking further.

[dook]

Calais maybe ?

[nvubu]

Not Calais.

Now when I said What Hangar - maybe I should have said "What Hangars?" - as there are quite a number.

https://v1stba.db.files.1drv.com/y4mwOplMQnEoWHMemcDWYxXPcVnEHgmDkDY6HQWTgWcArFBQWsK870Od1IET GcA6toNjy_6LBIA4zD427MaqQJAHHjgMpi77aZXQJyIcXeUZQvOlxoexhoYm QN6AV2XoaKjjgEfja6tY-sxepqucykK8PYsYsdZcTOamZnrhLOxO-IiKXL2SfyriFzxq_NVkGYjw3vS22FdJeWyWsMAdKn8Qg?width=1024&height=839&cropmode=none


https://9t3isq.db.files.1drv.com/y4mgv4RoWVtw_Hu7gbq9uwltQ_cZS8SFnJacff_MI7O8w3pA410GtXh-0G11bkEGb9L0rXBTV3ujGZ3CT-lIJZHxUCzljV2DhsOBzy6AZ89Dm1mlawwea6ECjnvKcvjGohTyzutWr-6oaaDLUPO_YZBDNHy9OcShouCm2Z8J4PS9tEJF6qLpGENHe5D5e4O0d2Xcpj GtSfh_AyonHIY_lSs2g?width=1024&height=751&cropmode=none

[dook]

Getting lost. Dunkerque ?

[nvubu]

Too far north. nowhere near the front lines.

[dook]

Final shot - Saint-Raphael.

[nvubu]

Not Saint-Raphael, and it isn't on the Mediterranean.

[dook]

These could be the hangars but the site doesn't say where it is. :ugh:

http://i65.tinypic.com/6fpovn.jpg

[nvubu]

Yes that is the correct place.

I do have that image as well, but didn't post it as I only try to post images you can't find with Google Images.

There were also other aeroplanes there as well
https://yrca1a.db.files.1drv.com/y4m9F8V0GzMNJik3uf37uFL5wfHJ0jgerf2jg_eBknMdRMePkB0gBB7giJFx UeIEi_0SggXvkBEwtRkX13SjCS3wM4y1L4M4jDxqxzsgCugNML4Gv6zqEWfF F3svxAYNRcWl-_xcxoAcxSrGl8tSMoxXdbZrcuh3GIx89imVucrMnFMAuTbo3jZ-FmqlrI-PfiiuAYOJi821yOoAtdHineV3w?width=1024&height=824&cropmode=none

https://kycxjw.db.files.1drv.com/y4m8s9fsuNlq-k8rVR3SLBU6mJ5xSaHW2KcBpqgI74dAIbkKJaHDSasaGS9w_JAowVC0M3oQ_ 9tBrNXrkZMfJyI00jjbUVb4yxW1AFcqraDpvCNOZQtZlOmnpbCYUJo7SmMb4 61ufJF2Q0rLkvfeIu9TlBHTXyFNTYKBTSOKJCItfDiiU2tYWfLsGNR7q6qdx vWipmLccEshPOtZLE_5yJsPQ?width=1024&height=793&cropmode=none

I'll post an overhead later - which may well give it away.

But one clue. Still military today.

[dook]

Lake Cazeaux and I'm off to bed.

[nvubu]

And we have a winner - Cazaux it is. Over to you.

Here are the overheads.

https://jodryq.db.files.1drv.com/y4mCOE4W9GBPIgiexA-JczGDlJhb_tjtzRSs_QGQtjeKELqDGSA0Z4vRYZutEzJ6DTuRBPsMrm8Qgdk _aCDs8jha_IQF-2GBpxMuuRdTNgxPqHg1jE6JbDDeCPCw95wjsAkSSZ6fU6c-AOMf5Mq53rZ2H4BuatNnsLgP_9pOyzpH4SKwKthyBdW3obYS-6PRpLclUldDAqLnIGIz7WAq72WHQ?width=1024&height=719&cropmode=none

https://wsk6pw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mWi3Jya7pY8oTPitpF1NSt4uiMuDjh4H6ZyVkqIDkQhtrnXaluswTI_GqT KeDyU7pEH2fMcYdeI1SMGVQ_07aWsLqHPHIMs2IKP3K9wLE19WaajZN2597-FjSsOi_pLRfJV5XpYkUxSBoc4Ys-fizp4genbB4M2u3zVQEHUeBdxD1qfJl56zynUeKk6hlpw3ZzUS69rjcJxRt5 yTSlo1oSw?width=1024&height=665&cropmode=none

[dook]

Thank you.

Aircraft ID came in useful.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2i0419x.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Dook,

Do you think you can enhance de pixels?
I am particulary interessted in the shiny roof and the aircraft (shape) at the end of the runway.
Apart from the fact that we have a large cross and a smaller cross and large trees on the right and smaller trees on the left, I could not determine a clue.

Cheers SLB

[nvubu]

Are we still in France? If so - Saint Raphael / Frejus

[dook]

Is this more clear.

We are in France but not Saint Raphael.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2n7jrpw.jpg

[dook]

nvubu,

You are two miles out so I have to give it to you.

Just nb'd your edit.

It's Frejus and I found it whilst looking for your last.

Your thread again.

[nvubu]

Thought I recognised it from when I posted the challenge on #7463 (https://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/459713-aerodrome-mk-iii-374.html)

Just getting the next challenge ready.

[nvubu]

OK, here we go for the next challenge. This airfield is under construction, but where is it?

https://iodvyq.db.files.1drv.com/y4mPI4aMdw-GXV_e5V10z4UM-CP6N5AWgT27zznM5KBjZBtdv2--ZjRfDwE4VHNdom0pgsG6RLLi2dS9ow39ms1_PgUQM8t3glfrhatO7UVHa7p2 lUKxxr_-1tJsv65CtFh7FBmcZQBT0mZX6Uyx0iWjHZT6OHaIn9CDkjBPkDS9hAXD-eEgKgq3jg7zUz68lpqDUnFdGgAPUSyLSTXN---YA?width=1024&height=763&cropmode=none

https://u1sxba.db.files.1drv.com/y4mOC4ousPegFf2EzJcV5beLz3tTT4mng8m1BShOak2z5QBAH3zACN6WRtI3 dbmFPiNJv-gxpBWDUXJNd9J5Z3rINmI6TCkfl-x3-vTS-nShapgEt1lZ6knbpZu5pHGjZEn097Bf1tbC2Hw0O7Our_-kHAUtotL6x2bKykapoKNHJbStrKJNpdWfttjoDlEdzAKy5cpF1nkU_wksE1t R_8XQg?width=1024&height=763&cropmode=none

[kcockayne]

I have no real idea but, Truk ?

[descol]

Betio ! - Tarawa

[dook]

Funafuti ?

[nvubu]

It is none of the above. (I did have an airfield on Tarawa lined up, but decided against it.)

You are all in the right arena - although Jenks suggestion of Cassidy International is the furthest away.

Airfield complete now.

https://vskppw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mwcezGijKLzxgxsZhj7U7QAEfqTzrV-cRr0T_zoXDTEa-oLovccHDrJ8VsFBcBTxhRLviFXYqpDfNw7Pwljn0CChr-an1Vd2o5zTqqG2PGHo1UTE8pPJpEfSNVqMYOOZL2nWpcRgv0BYwWngQqAXYB Z7ofIxdOkwu4IOjVl015uEf1wg3eWZlUVUi4QHEiGWA6WKJ1R2zzuJR1-63zFkitQ?width=865&height=1024&cropmode=none

[descol]

Henderson Field SI ?

[dook]

Nanumea maybe ?

[nvubu]

Neither Henderson Field or Nanumea,

It doesn't look like it is active although the outline is still present.

Three firsts here:

First aircraft to land:
https://jyc1jw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mitT0H4I0wwyNtNL86opsypxuTaQQt52FXnaVlSSmk1e3x74crEPDVv6Kv 7V41pwsgHmTgDHpo9kmb9M47-pRgFUxQ2ojf6v2hyt_yD3sczgqxpzyp5r_7UngLEbYXImQ0-UAVrHaGpqDBqZjxzcvwz7Ry-YGj1v5QwadB8IX7uFIKDbbgjCHQLPcJgCuXAqqEeDe8aj5fo6vsn_vzdU0ww ?width=660&height=443&cropmode=none

First Army aircraft to land:
https://8t3msq.db.files.1drv.com/y4mRdhVI_cSgl-Ej7_HGhfbAcbATErObEDlC9UckaKfy69-6TxfFFAatlw_nHLPoTPKsLd9aC_bYAkoibPMkdylsvliUH03oqM0MPuTkWBN 0X8IgmILl3GQX104mk6UFfD-iOzP4O1ctLU6r1TFFL_jltAhuLVtr90UC4UlMrtEwYf0skoIEyksCENFucox EAhKFLMUxQt9gAdKvWju90s32w?width=660&height=471&cropmode=none

First scheduled aircraft to land:
https://wpvcmq.db.files.1drv.com/y4m44wxBtP2alxslK9B8Y8yCYM1z7nNHWtFQnkZt2u75jHU7Gh2FVuaK_OFn Xdfo4ae2viVCF9YV-_ICmKnu8VOUTFfb974lppC9S3MzdJhcF5pL8KyMyxScBQhyAZOmg-VZBn1AAtY9iwr8EJDXJf6tozXNq7yHXgop2nF251zSwCAlpZY-KVTWtLNieAB0UBlkbzeeEmsVPDC5EML2nPa7Q?width=660&height=489&cropmode=none

[dook]

Majuro...…..?

[descol]

maybe Bauer field ?

[dook]

But perhaps we're in the Solomons.

[nvubu]

I have to keep looking up all these suggestions in case it was/is known under another name.

Not Majuro, Bauer Field or in the Solomons.

Anyone want a photo from the air that might help?

[Archer4]

Port Moresby?

[dook]

I would like to know if Tuvalu is close.

Or if we're in the New Hebrides.

[nvubu]

The Solomon islands are closer than the New Hebrides.

[dook]

Perhaps somewhere else in the Marshall Islands.

Or the Marianas, but they were bomber bases.

[nvubu]

Solomon Islands are the closest yet.

[dook]

Perhaps near Mono Island.

Bougainville island ?

[nvubu]

You have the right country with Bougainville Island.

here's one aerial.

https://xrce1a.db.files.1drv.com/y4miQCLl_NHiimsw-dH9sJM4_xpl552UW-M25GXd93l9S_xvU7Qi-Sd0i1f9UygrLznolCSMCg3QYbcmKzNx4UDmj3K69TOtIA8afU_LF65G02jF1 X1e0kKsluUdQ1weye_xqV9H6cldM64KMZdK1tyPcEoQBtAs423o-FT4Ro6MZfGU5OLr_Utszd7sKDCjULQxZ0z-jSCpwcP0wyflYhgtA?width=1024&height=773&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Well done, now you have it. Nissan or Green Island

https://jlkn7a.db.files.1drv.com/y4ml_sXhiwCJ6fFL0fHeInAwc25iYV0MAosdlcmq6V2srDUvLfZKeN-36uKKreifxiAjBezaVCRyUM4UroSD2Qr4uZ07lT8RXD4SOJ87P68mW6eddt2 uPIpubzIcO_Rp7H-nr6sxGZpjE4MXe4OiR_DNEfT2y5XBAoNV_1lYuH9Y5yV_va_pMN7yVKE9UpS Zj1q_A3PAIhNLZ8OA-SoJ70AzQ?width=1024&height=738&cropmode=none

Over to you.

[dook]

Ta muchly.

Another o'heed for ye.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2rp8lci.jpg

[jensdad]

Are we in a part of the world that was (or still is?) of a Communist persuasion? (Not sure why political ideology should influence airfield design, but it does seem to have done!)

[dook]

We are indeed.

[nvubu]

North Korea

[dook]

Niet……………..

[sycamore]

Are `we` in `big Bear` country now ,or in one of the ones that knocked the Wall over...?

[dook]

Big Bear country.

[Self loading bear]

Big Bear country.

a hell of a job

first thought it would semi tropical like sotchi.

Kirovsk Apapiti

How do you pick them?

SLB

[dook]

How do you pick them?

And just how do you find them ?

Your bear. :D

[Self loading bear]

And just how do you find them ?

Your bear. :D

Bears know how to find another bear.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/525x670/523235fe_7d08_42b9_bb5c_f91b55d7086d_00036c65b2a2c759d7f2233 977238ed9f74b7e2c.jpeg
Cheers SLB

[dook]

I'll kick off.

I think that must be northern Europe. I don't think UK.

Canal suggests WW2 Germany or maybe Holland or Belgium.

edit: is that the sea or a lake at the top ?

[Self loading bear]

I'll kick off.

I think that must be northern Europe. I don't think UK.

Canal suggest WW2 Germany or maybe Holland or Belgium.

edit: is that the sea or a lake at the top ?

No UK
chart is dated 9-11-42
neither Sea or Lake

[dook]

A reservoir then maybe.

If it's not water why is the railway line running around it ?

[Self loading bear]

A reservoir then maybe.

If it's not water why is the railway line running around it ?

The railway which ran along the water is no longer there.

SLB

[dook]

Well, it was when the chart was drawn so I'm just trying to find out what the water is.

I asked because you said it was not a lake or sea, which is why I am asking if it's a reservoir.

I can't think of any other type of water except an inland waterway.

I also asked
Canal suggests WW2 Germany or maybe Holland or Belgium.

Am I on the right track ?

[Self loading bear]

Well, it was when the chart was drawn so I'm just trying to find out what the water is.

I asked because you said it was not a lake or sea, which is why I am asking if it's a reservoir.

I can't think of any other type of water except an inland waterway.

I also asked


Am I on the right track ?
I as a Dutchman can think of several other types of water. Perhaps some fellow Pprune have suggestions.
and Yes you are on the right track.

SLB
SLB

[sycamore]

V1 or V2 launching site...?

[dook]

Thanks SLB.

I am interested in the fact that the text is in English, so I'm going to rule out Germany. Typical of stuff by the French resistance I feel except that in the bottom left there is the text about 10'.

I as a Dutchman....

Perhaps that's a hint...…….

Water and a canal - I'm going to shoot for the Netherlands.

[sycamore]

Bottom left there is a scale; if feet it`s pretty small for an airfield....

[nvubu]

Does "No UK", mean "No, it is in the UK" or "No, not in the UK". :)

[dook]

I read it as a typo for "not in the UK".

[Self loading bear]

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x681/3e14ff27_b000_4b86_9ec7_ab098d83092e_34716878c92e6096a312e4d 26cd290923824aea5.jpeg

Excuse me for my English.
It is not in the UK

The 10’ is the cut off of the magnetic deviation arrow.
The field is approxiamately 1500 yards across.
No V1 or V2 site as far as I know.
Although they built this.

[dook]

Ah - aircraft ID again.

Koolhoven F.K.55 - so it's definitely Holland.

Back in their factory at Waalhaven Airport in Rotterdam, Netherlands, the Koolhoven team went …….

Waalhaven.

[Self loading bear]

Waalhaven It was,

It was more famous because of the Wehrmacht action overthere than the Luftwaffe.
(Fallschirmjaeger)

Nothing to be seen there anymore.
Except for the streetnames
After famous Dutch pilots Fokker, Plesman, Parmentier, Smirnoff etc.https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1121x733/waalhaven_07c8599081a4666347291e49e2977174eaab2a0c.jpg
Over to you Dook

SLB

[dook]

Many thanks - a good challenge.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2whgvw1.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Dook,

what do I see in the background?
Is it a :

pool
ditch
flow
channel
stream
flood
canal
river
lake
waterlock
mudflat
waterway
reservoir
harbour
bay
sea
anchoring roads
ocean?

SLB

[Cows getting bigger]

That's Bantry Airfield, Ireland. Pretty strip owned by the local pharmaceutical company.

OH if correct.

[dook]

No need to answer SLB's shotgun question - CGB has it.

OH

[Self loading bear]

No need to answer SLB's shotgun question - CGB has it.

OH

i forgot the
fjord,
loch,
and inlet

SLB

[dook]

:D:D...……...

[Self loading bear]

As we have Open House I will try another one:

Apart from the sewer not related to water.

This photo is not my own (credits will follow later) edit: photo David Parker Brown
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x533/bathroom_kopie_753f901f7d70ba783945b8f520e6b79b24fc1e75.jpg

My favourite writer is James Clavell

Succes SLB

[dook]

More shotgun:

Some things I have found about James Clavell.

Sydney
Malaya
Prisoner of war:
Java
Changi

The Asian Saga books

Photo: JetStar Airways is based in Australia so somewhere there?

[dook]

I can't believe it's as easy as Google search "airports toilets".

http://i66.tinypic.com/2eeju49.jpg

[Self loading bear]

I can't believe it's as easy as Google search "airports toilets".

http://i66.tinypic.com/2eeju49.jpg

Never knew that sh!thole was so openly on internet.
If you connect the clues of sewer and Clavell’s Kind Rat....
It was not meant to be difficult.
just trying to do something different than the overhead photo.
i hope it is enjoyed by everyone ?

Are you going to score the goal or not ?

SLB

[dook]

I'll claim it - standby for another non-overhead.

OK:

http://i66.tinypic.com/o6fpdx.jpg

[Self loading bear]

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x1334/c335cebd_03cc_46bf_bdbf_31d2cb38a020_e529dca5cf045965e1b8a49 9100c27acab7125f4.png
Typical Dutch.

I knew that there had been an airbase but
if not for the website
Luftwaffe Airfields 1935-1945 (http://www.ww2.dk/lwairfields.html)
I would not have known were to look.

nothing left except those 6 bunkers.

[dook]

Goed gedaan :D

[Self loading bear]

Sorry folks,

Now i have an overhead to share.
But as i posted previously I try not to post the standard.
Not exactly an aerodrome. but related to American military aviation.
I think due to time of posting our fellow Pprune's on the other side of the pont have a chance to join in?

Succes, SLB
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1368x822/knipsel_01ed358c3593f608abdf33c7f934e68a50bf6911.jpg

[dook]

Not exactly an aerodrome

This one could be difficult.

[nvubu]

Just in case the newer contributors to the thread haven't read it, the first post of the original Which Aerodrome contains some suggested rules that seem to have been overlooked recently. Here is a link to the thread: https://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/283572-aerodrome.html

Also, I've been updating the aerodrome list that Mel started. Unfortunately, I'm about 18 months behind right now, but I'll try to get it up to date over the next few weeks - https://1drv.ms/x/s!AsBD9MvRbikxl3cYfdKz-hT8F_At

[dook]

A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.

That has not been the case for a long time. The latest is not even an aerodrome.

[Self loading bear]

To all,

my apologies,
I understand my Changi challenge and this latest one are indeed to far outside the rules.
i have no objection to play by the rules but will think about another thread.

I therefore declare open house.

For those who would like to solve my last challenge:
Although the stadium was intended to be used as an Aerodrome, this challenge will now be out of competion.
you can PM me with your suggestions/questions.
if I have enough replies we will open a broader thread.

SLB

[nvubu]

The latest is not even an aerodrome.

That's why I thought it worth posting the initial link.

It also says: As in Which Cockpit, lets try to use elderly photos and not Google Earth pics.

Unfortunately, the latter has become the norm recently.

SLB: Changi was a good/unusual challenge - you need to be aware though that posting images that already exist on the internet make them very easy to find using Google Image Search - although there has been in the past an agreement not to use this method as t makes it too easy.

[Self loading bear]

The photo I posted of Changi was previously posted in an Airlinereporter blog of David Parker Brown
(I promised that I would give credits)

Dook was very lucky to find a slightly different photo by a Google search (not Google Image)
I think the following part of the rules is the most important:
....Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.

I think I did not comply for Changi as it was not about differences old versus nowadays.
My Port Harcourt challenge was also with internet photo’s but was about (non) differencies 2014-2018.

To keep the thread interesting i think we should emphasise that we not only solve the challenge but also discuss the changes then and now.
Either from own experience or by posting additional photos.

Lets go for the better thread.

SLB

[India Four Two]

SLB,

Thank you for declaring open house. Here's a real and also vintage photo. This is looking in the preferred takeoff direction. The other direction was more challenging!

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1203x703/wad_20181021_9b47be4e2157d0ce50fb9f6aa0f88d0a989e3eac.png

[sycamore]

Blue Mountain,? Laos...home of the Hmong >>>?

[India Four Two]

Good guess, sycamore, but not correct. No Hmong here, but it is in Montagnard country.

PS A bit late for you or is east Essex in a different time zone? :)

[zetec2]

No Sycamore is a 24 hour day man, good old British stock.

[dook]

Is this strip still in use ?

Tay Nguyen area maybe.

[dook]

Mang Buk ?

[Self loading bear]

Dak Pek

found reference on:
Dak Pek, B Co, 2nd BN, 1968 (http://old.506infantry.org/hisvietnam/his2ndbnvnphoto15.html)

SLB

[dook]

I thought it might be Dak Seang.

With no images and nothing further from the OP it's just a bit of a guessing game.

[India Four Two]

dook,

The strip is still in use, but only by cars and motorcycles.

None of the new guesses is correct. Here is the view the other way:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1182x633/wad_20181021_2_ac9190333630d46874df24ff04d7149e2b6b784a.png

Note: the words on the building translate as Town Hall.

This strip was a satellite to a much busier one just down the road. Mostly used by FAC O-1s, but also by Caribous!

In latitude terms, it is north of Tay Ninh but south of Da Lat.

[nvubu]

Bao Loc? …..

[Dora-9]

Dook - regarding Bergen, there's a much larger bunker complex just 1300 m to the NW of the one you've shown.

[India Four Two]

nvubu,

Not Bao Loc. As an aside, I thought myself quite knowledgeable about airfields in South Vietnam, but I had never heard of any of the suggestions above - nor my "mystery aerodrome" come to that. It is amazing how many airstrips there were.

I have not been able to find Bao Loc, but given the description in this article, it can't be far away from my challenge:
http://183seahorse.org/uploads/files/VIETNAM-CHRONICLESIFRtoPhan.pdf

The strip is north-south with the mountain to the south. It is currently the "main drag" of a small town which has a different name from that of the airfield. The airfield name is the same as its parent airfield to the west, but with a suffix added. The small town's two-word name would be considered amusing/risqué to English speakers who are not familiar with Vietnamese. In fact, the first word is a fairly common girl's name and the town's name has been co-opted by a coffee shop chain, which causes amusement to tourists in Saigon.

[nvubu]

It might not be called Bao Loc - which should be on this link https://goo.gl/maps/J7M22W5L12N2 Not N/S, so definitely not the mystery airfield.

[India Four Two]

nvubu,

That's interesting - a very similar runway layout but as you say the wrong direction and there is no mountain. Unlike your Bao Loc, there is no obvious evidence of the runway anymore - it's just a street. The Bao Loc in the link I posted is referred to as being near the Cambodian border, so it must be a different one. Your Bao Loc is east of my location.

The parent airfield of my posted pictures was on a large Fire Support Base a few kilometres southwest. The FSB had a different name from the co-located airfield.

[dook]

Is it near Dong Xoai ?

Phuc Long is a great name.

[dook]

An Loc is a vague possibility.

[nvubu]

I reckon it might be Phuoc Binh

[dook]

I reckon it's in here somewhere.

http://i65.tinypic.com/14m7w9v.jpg

[nvubu]

I think the road is the 741/ Duong Dinh Tien Hoang. I have the location as Phuoc Binh - very close to Huyen Phuoc Long - or the same place?
The "Town Hall" shows up much better on Bing Maps than Google Maps.

[dook]

That's interesting nvubu.

I went there to discover it's a province and I still can't see the town hall.

[India Four Two]

nvubu has it.

It is the airstrip known as Song Be City, in the middle of the town of Phước Long, also known as Sông Bé City. Sông Bé means the River Bé, which flows through this valley. The Fire Support Base 5km to the southwest was known as FSB Buttons, but was also referred to as Song Be. It was one of the biggest FSBs in this part of Vietnam.

Thanks for the tip about Bing Maps. The imagery is remarkable detailed, much better than Google, although older. I can clearly see the Town Hall and the FSB Buttons runway, complete with markings. Google Earth shows the area is now a grid of roads.

For the "avoidance of doubt", the Town Hall is at 11°51'13.62"N, 106°59'46.76"E and FSB Buttons is at 11°49'8.47"N, 106°57'39.53"E

The hill to the south is Núi Bà Rá (White Virgin Mountain). It had a communications base on it during the war. Further south, near Tay Ninh, is a similar mountain called Núi Bà Đen (Black Virgin Mountain), which also was used for communications. They are both isolated volcanic plugs.

I reckon it might be Phuoc Binh
I have a friend called Ms. Phước and another called Ms. Bình. The former is aware of the humour in her name. I suggested that she should not go to Yorkshire!

nvubu has control.

[dook]

PM for India Four Two.

[nvubu]

Here is the Town Hall in Google Maps - clicky (https://goo.gl/maps/VRKgMoGr76M2)

Lots of foliage. use Bing Maps for the same location and it is more obvious.

Phuoc Binh was the next location to the west of Bao Loc on the map I was looking at.(I used this map in a challenge in November last year :) )

https://3avzma.bl.files.1drv.com/y4maVSc4jo6cL8Ki3wpSdIiCY2gbEOKT0vAFDCZgMBgAe-Q6pU9sCjXJn2PiWjtl5rJyAFMtIA6-MaIpXm9fxfFzvG1TAudTYlhefcpDcxAseY1XspdRrB42n2-sg7olXurzvI0Jo5yQa2eDBU6joqCQgyUrXbCt3T-3dB5ZDXJq4E5igLe_Pq5IXdXrRmjRIrot7W3E189PzGt5NwzV73PcQ?width =501&height=660&cropmode=none

Posts crossed :)

[nvubu]

Here's the next challenge - Might even be in the same region :ok:

More images will follow if this stumps everyone.
https://pee96w.db.files.1drv.com/y4mjQuc3P0B1wpNOcy8gkHCEVey6t9wzaGY7wq68o7hXcgDKHUOJ04DE6mt4 YDvRZ55rJ4nvHAaazc7nvy6uhn2Vka6q8CH9f_wosV9U_OJH18VGtThxEOh5 xYDODb3C8dIKqkEZev9SEubTJaF9OJTm5JlbBjBQuBYyeiWscT1SoHIYQfzz hS-OaHo_qlBzng4nueOcMEIvQ9kUvBBQF9rZA?width=1024&height=852&cropmode=none

ETA: By region I mean area of the world :)

[dook]

Bien Hoa maybe.

[nvubu]

It isn't Bien Hoa.
I don't think there is any evidence remaining on the ground for this location.

[dook]

I don't suppose there is.

They look like revetments for either aircraft or weapons.

Are we still in Vietnam ?

[nvubu]

We are still in Vietnam.

Most of the airfields I've looked at previously in Vietnam I've found evidence on GE for them. I'll check again when I get home as I've found some wide angle shots, so I should be able to locate it exactly.

[nvubu]

I've found a plan of the base and an overlay onto the current map, and there is nothing left apart from a couple of roads.

https://algpea.db.files.1drv.com/y4m937YVd7_vZyLCcFqizc-mk7ZgTZgVMBHs4OM1D_5u6Knagn5Ehz-Qre6A_Pdbd8b77Nc94eqaVkW5oz_XIy6VsqymrScm135u-HHpq7XryMHHUqrdiuObn0JVEG9YU84VsumSBbVWzvD8Txwg2Cn4HAjlEXlMC mKB9ns-hSkZPSk6CxBQwIdsAIV9vCaaH8xcvTKU6yE93MtmWAaFtTdRg?width=1024&height=884&cropmode=none

[sycamore]

Phuoc Vinh, possibly...?

there is a map on `www,18thand54thaviationcompanyotternest.com`....

[dook]

Wheressa map ?

[nvubu]

It isn't Phuoc Vinh. That's a great map - I can confirm that this airfield does appear on it :)

Here's an image of the runway.

https://oqpgya.db.files.1drv.com/y4mVQrx6I-dz1p4B_WsWMkWBHzKxH5ZrPAyCjvHPk51IVxFgR8VeYrEbbvGuuGPNyT8CJm ZmJqHwnbfrZaMv3Ra3ITvu6NTJaCXkoyRazc6MSa09thLcGUfyPyVTLCPE7M vpHAY5mNGRExus-1gvVeUFcvBZg-R01mf_XmPeL4lPaM4fOY5xtTy3caZILZTxpEWHOn7r27yPn7D04_dpjq_aQ? width=1024&height=883&cropmode=none

the url for the map has a comma in it in error - here's a link to it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwqEEFvkkkmISzhsUzVHZzhMZHg3Z2hXTVFuUFAtVk5jYy0w/view

Edit to add: The road on the right that goas around the end of the runway and bends around to the left looks like it still exists.

[dook]

I replaced the comma with a full stop first

[India Four Two]

and there is nothing left apart from a couple of roads.

The only large helicopter base that fits that description, that I can think of, is The Golf Course at An Khe, home of "Chickenhawk".

[nvubu]

It isn't An Khe.

These were on their way to this base.

https://zbgwea.db.files.1drv.com/y4mucNgawsXNudL4immWuVHZLVWJDSQZ1vETAKft0YFmTOIhWwgsbK_3vbu1 v2Zx27pK1eSNDyqf-9RRyYUjedzlJ4Z6LsKeRiTYDiXQ7PhctYB_CfuNLCo3LvK_GEkZ4G9MQ1-RuoN7iVsiZ_FFhkJL7rBtjvD3frudvvd9Rw4Um_g9fEtT5Av5VxWLp42pXDh DVzXA9DNiX6kYIK6TPiCQA?width=1024&height=545&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

Interesting. Somewhere in the Delta?

[nvubu]

Nowhere near it.

[dook]

Rung Sat area possibly, but I suspect we are up north.

[nvubu]

We are up north.

[sycamore]

PHU CAT...13.57N 109.1E.....OH if correct

[nvubu]

It isn't Phu Cat.
You need to keep going north.

[dook]

Near Duc Pho possibly.

[nvubu]

Not particularly - further north.

[dook]

Anything to do with Operation Double Eagle ?

[nvubu]

No, not that I can see. Still head north.

On his way to a 5-day R&R in Tokyo.
https://aczygw.db.files.1drv.com/y4m1Dx2ucHSwkOS9Wws6Y2YVWd78g-firxE163yg0uLZeXmogm7Kn7_h2-3hmZWiiS9duEQ1h2cXS0Z7sbSUgXlpytjJA-subKUIzYDBOSTIUNX7ACm2IZE16dj1HDN0rzYZS7uNih-rAOZM4NjkDaSfcnm7049g7FNgqecBCXTUl_ZqI-27MdfLo8kkQ_56vb6xDFhLf1mZZfSpCWE1huw1g?width=1024&height=806&cropmode=none