Which Aerodrome Mk III

[eckhard]

Abu Dhabi al-Bateen.

Open house if correct.

[Cows getting bigger]

Indeed, correct.

[evansb]

The next one:
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b477/gumpjr_bucket/For%20King%20and%20Country.jpg

[mustbeaboeing]

St.Lucia. UVF. TLPL. Vieuxfort. Hewanorra.

Open House if correct

[evansb]

St. Lucia is correct :ok: Always had an enjoyable time in St. Lucia.

As requested, it is OPEN HOUSE.

[Background Noise]

Try this:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/links/where_zpssa.jpg

[spook]

Wilson, Kenya?

[Background Noise]

Sorry, late response. It is indeed Eastleigh, circa 1964.

[chevvron]

Try this:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/links/where_zpssa2ry1u2.jpg

Massively wide taxiway, or was it meant to be an apron too?

[India Four Two]

Taking advantage of the Open House, here's a picture sent to me by a friend in Enzed, together with an email in his own inimitable style:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WAD%20MF_zpsdbep47if.jpg

Hi chaps. It is hard to credit...but I am blowed if I can recall the
name of this super-nice airstrip.
The hills and the strip’s up-slope look so familiar.

But what a weird-looking aeroplane. The wings look all droopy
due to heavy landings by some British Ace.

I reckon you could land a Douglas C-47 on this pleasant wide airstrip.

This photo sits on my desktop screen and soothes my tiny brain
when I can not remember a word....or two.

I can narrow it down to the country, but beyond that I don't know!

[prospector]

The aircraft looks a lot like a BN2 Islander that has lost its nose wheels.

[Dora-9]

Massively wide taxiway, or was it meant to be an apron too? Chevvron, used as both I think. Clearly visible on GE.

[descol]

Like many a strip in PNG !

[India Four Two]

Yes, my friend spent many years in PNG. The question is, where is this in particular?

[India Four Two]

Received a further email from my friend:
With ref. to the airstrip photo on my computer screen; several blokes reminded me that it is, of course, “Ononge”, further up in the Woitape valley.

Ononge is 08° 40' 49" S 147° 15' 66" E
ONG Cat 4 16/34 5,700 feet 500 m 7% down to SE
Land 34 Takeoff 16
Some parts of the strip are somewhat rough.


OPEN HOUSE

[Dora-9]

I don't think this one has appeared before. A 1946 photo:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/Blithering/Adastra-KOM_zpsao2gkral.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/Blithering/media/Adastra-KOM_zpsao2gkral.jpg.html)

[chevvron]

Looks like Ansons so somewhere in Canada?

[Dora-9]

Ansons yes (mostly), Canada no.

[Cows getting bigger]

3FTS Amberley

[Dora-9]

Cgb: Amberley had its hangars in a radial pattern. Much closer than Canada, but no cigar.

[oldpax]

the shadows look almost overhead so somewhere in Rhodesia?

[Dora-9]

Cgb had the right country...

[By George]

Looks like RAAF Pt Cook Victoria.

[Dora-9]

I think Point Cook (North Camp) had a radial pattern too. Sorry BG, not Point Cook.

[Cows getting bigger]

Ballarat, Victoria?

[Dora-9]

CGB has it! It's aircraft of 1 WAGS at RAAF Ballarat.

Over to you....

[Cows getting bigger]

Thank you, a good challenge which took a bit of searching. Here's another from my personal collection. Apologies if we've had this one before.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1457/24339054951_f4fa21c125_c.jpg

[jensdad]

A very rough guess... Machrihanish?

[Cows getting bigger]

Good guess, you're no too far away. Very similar latitude.

[chevvron]

The haar? Lovely photograph, a touch high Hoskins?
'Well above the glidepath, adjust your rate of descent'.

[Cows getting bigger]

I'd be more bothered about being well left of centreline. :)

Hint, there are two countries in the picture.

[Background Noise]

How about Derry?

[Cows getting bigger]

Indeed it is. City of Derry, Londonderry, Eglinton or EGAE, depending how politically correct you are feeling.

Over to you, Background Noise.

[Background Noise]

Thanks - try this,

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/links/ahha_zpsxsxsblto.jpg

[chevvron]

Somewhere in Poland?

[Cows getting bigger]

Radom, EPRA?

[Background Noise]

Yes, Radom it is. What made you suggest Poland Chevvron?

[Cows getting bigger]

What made you suggest Poland Chevvron?

Indeed, that saved me about 6 hours on Google earth!

Anyway, I guess its my turn. :hmm:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1647/24339031681_7b58a24eb3_c.jpg[/url]

[Cubs2jets]

Somewhere in south Florida (USA) with a MAF DC-3TP...

C2j

[Cows getting bigger]

Wrong continent.

[chevvron]

Yes, Radom it is. What made you suggest Poland Chevvron?

It was the shape of the dispersals at both ends of the runway, similar to the ones I've seen at Szczecin/Goleniow. Probably a 'standard' Warsaw Pact layout I would guess.

[chimbu warrior]

Photo taken from LHS of a Navajo. Do I get points for that.

[Cows getting bigger]

Almost, a Chieftain. :)

A hint. This place recently closed in favour of a new parallel runway and terminal. The country also has a history in Frankincense.

[Lordflasheart]

Photo taken from LHS of a Navajo.

'Scuse me arsking but what does LHS stand for please ? ;) ........ LFH

[Cows getting bigger]

The runway and frankincense clues indicate Seeb, but nothing which I recognise from 1976.

Getting close. Another angle

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1567/24313235382_c57c380937_c.jpg

[Bill Macgillivray]

Salalah, in better years !!

[Cows getting bigger]

Correct. Over to you. :D

[JW411]

http://www.frpilot.com/Dad/OOSA.JPG

And here is the 1966 version.

[95i]

May be I'm not allowed posting here and now. But it's an interesting photo.
Does anyone know where this airfield might be? I don't, by the way. I think it's in Germany.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m236/95iwarzukurz/1969_04_30_Airfield_Helicopters-small_zpsxflxpahc.jpg

[Cows getting bigger]

I'm pretty sure that is RAF Wildenwrath.

[Bill Macgillivray]

CgW.

Txs. for Salalah pics (I remember the 1966 version as well, great!). I am stuck technically with PC/scanner probs. so cannot post a new pic.. Maybe you would like to carry on. Apologies, Bill.

[asw22]

Hello!

It is indeed Wildenrath. I have had this idea in mind early as well, but you need to look at the GE image of year 2000 (!!!) to have a chance to identify relevant details (by the way the center of the hangar on the photo is about there: 51.118156 6.225298).
Now in 2015 Siemens has but eradicated most of the taxiways, hangars buidings etc...

Sad!

[zetec2]

Are you sure that is Wildenrath, photo seems from a PR Canberra by info on bottom of photo (I was on 17PR Sqd at Wildenrath) could name the crew as well, the Pembrokes are outside what you would assume is 60 Sqd but at the time of the picture there were no helicopter landing pads alongside 60, plus they only had one hangar with the AAC to the right in low shed type buildings, plus Air Movements was to the left of of the hangar, there should be a road running straight up away from roughly the back of the hangar up to the main drag and the railway line is missing, PH.

[binbrook]

z2 - it's Wildenrath alright. The railway is visible (just) top left, and the distinctive shape of the woods top centre is as it was on the 1964 topo and still is today on Google Earth. Not much else left. But why did they want a photo of 60's apron?

[chevvron]

As I'm unable to post photos, here's a different slant.
The first series of 'Doc Martin' is being re-shown on saturday afternoons. Last saturday's episode had the Doc and the local plod driving across what was clearly an airfield, probably disused. As just about all the filming was done in the west country, I have tried to identify which airfield this might be.
The initial choices were Predannack, Perranporth or Portreath but looking further afield, I reckon it was more likely to be Davidstow Moor based on the narrow public road across the airfield and the wooded area on one side.
Can anyone conform this?

[JW411]

http://www.frpilot.com/Dad/Wind.jpg

Just to have something for you all to get on with;

If I have already posted this one then please forgive me. I am not getting any younger.

[asw22]

You are good! I have checked on GE and you are spot-on...But I do not have the feeling it was ever an airfield or even a landing strip...

[Cows getting bigger]

Indeed that's the Sennelager Winning Mühle. In the mid 80s we used to take the Gütersloh harrier force that way but I don't recollect the force ever using that particular strip.

[JW411]

It is indeed the Winningmühle Strip on Sennelager close to Bad Lippspringe. It was one of Hitler's secret airfields in the 1930s. The control tower was disguised as a windmill and the few technical buildings that were left were done up in a mock-Tudor style. I succeeded twice in doing a touch-and-go during gaps in the traffic. Great fun!

[Russell Gulch]

To keep the thread alive, I offer not "Which Aerodrome" but offer "Why Aerodrome"

Why would airfields have parallel runways set in a diamond (or square) layout?

I give you the first one as Pekin (http://www.airfields-freeman.com/IA/Airfields_IA_W.htm#pekin) (if only because I put a pin there.)

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/868mick/pekin1_zpss8y46esp.jpg

But where is this one? (evidently one of the runways has been extended at some point.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/868mick/wa61771_zpsyspwoz1k.jpg

and why were the airfields constructed in this manner?

Russ

[Russell Gulch]

Oskaloosa it is. Jenkins has declared OH.

[India Four Two]

Russ,

That does seem an odd way to build parallel runways. Like you, I wonder why.

Does anyone know?

[chevvron]

Henstridge being built for the FAA, whose pilots normally had the luxury of their runway pointing into wind at all times, I think Henstridge was designed as it was so as to minimise crosswind operations.

[Hen Ddraig]

Burscough HMS Ringtail was also built for the FAA with four runways. It was used for working up naval air squadrons so the runways were only 30yds wide to simulate a carrier deck and with 8 possible take off/landing directions there was always one close to into wind. RAF stations were built with 50yd wide runways.

HD

[Cows getting bigger]

Minimum concrete/tarmac for maximum flexibility.

[Russell Gulch]

In what way, Cgb?

Russ

[Cows getting bigger]

Taxiways double-up as runways and hard standings.

Anyway, I understand it is open house so....

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1609/25843646773_8efa826526_c.jpg[/url]

[spini]

OJAM Marka International, Amman, Jordan, left base for 24. Always got good service there. Fantastic collection of aircraft in the apron area on the south side of Rwy 24.

[Cows getting bigger]

Correct. Over to you.

[Russell Gulch]

It's been a while since the last contributor to this thread.

I offer the following, having diligently searched MReyn's list for a previous entry, I was surprised to find none.

Russ

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/868mick/P1040897reduced_zps2xpod1gt.jpg

[Russell Gulch]

No, it's not Paris.

[DaveReidUK]

Paris? How about First Flight?

Agreed.

https://www.aopa.org/-/media/images/legacy/aopa/home/news/all/2012/april/fly-outs-first-flight-airport/1204p-flyouts.jpg?w=480&h=342&as=1&la=en&hash=9D5BB56CDCFAABF67DE7979808B4FA9D89CB3209

[Russell Gulch]

JENKINS,
You mussed have missed the irony...the first flight (ever) was not at KFFA, despite all the Americans' hype, any more than the first person to fly the Atlantic was Lindberg.

The photo is indeed KFFA. You have the chair,

Russ.

[DaveReidUK]

You mussed have missed the irony...the first flight (ever) was not at KFFA, despite all the Americans' hype, any more than the first person to fly the Atlantic was Lindbergh

I have yet to encounter any American perverse enough to believe the latter.

[Kieron Kirk]

"I have yet to encounter any American perverse enough to believe the latter."

The last time I visited the Alcock and Brown memorial at Ballinaboy, in Co. Galway, Ireland, there were several Americans who believed that Lindberg was the first to fly the Atlantic.

It is a "belief" that is more common than you think.

Chiarain.

[nvubu]

Here's only the 2nd one I've taken.
https://bjnkzq.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mpBp_9UWMh7J8UAG3B9yZbqFYnGIRxgma_GjLBGOjKFg2R1O8G-gpJSpprVb8qrcY50CoIXPn34WtyZ8y3x1VECSKnu6TZp8KgtoC453fZBzHkT kC9PUNNbPa79kR6e9pC6xG6LvHzXM8-zbrUYzr9RbXyaIy90erKnTRVCbPln0?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none

[dixi188]

Are we in S.E. Asia?

[nvubu]

Nowhere near Asia

[Flap40]

Close to a translation of 'Lands End'?

[nvubu]

It isn't in the UK if that is what is meant by Lands End

[Flap40]

No. I meant a translation of Lands end i.e. Finisterre.

I think it is Lorient on the south coast of Brittany.

[nvubu]

Me being thick. Yes you have it, Lorient it is.


Over to you.

[Flap40]

This is the only one that I have at the moment.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/jodel_bucket/6EEE45EF-3EAC-4694-A9C3-C1466D3D3399_zpscum5raul.jpg

[nvubu]

Blimey - at least you could see the runways in mine :)


Somewhere first mentioned in the Iliad and called Lango when ruled by the Knights Hospitaller of Rhodes?

[jensdad]

I'll take a wild guess at Kos. Open House if by some miracle I'm correct.

[Flap40]

Sorry, it came out smaller than I intended.

You are actually both correct. My intended challenge was Kos with the airport just visible right of centre on the island.
The smudge in the far distance is Rhodes but I doubt the airport is visible at this range;)

Edit 'cuz I've just googled Lango and now realise that it is indeed Kos.

Nvubu, the floor is yours.

[nvubu]

I had to blow the photo up to find the runway :) Thought I'd give you an enigmatic answer as well :ok:


Here's another one - should be fairly easy (especially as I've posted this one airfield before - but historic images).
https://qwlxqa.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3m56z29cWe2us-VMax6JzkBqNyKLcsJeQiJuQG7F8MroAVtNTxGsi3jVoHUWUpQkBOgspU2ph7 0KtRtxC8og89s7XuA1RyvaaymedVhLzMf-XIsgWikGBMAZ-BMDd-sdLEbIEC0kHYmMuCnMXZ6src2nUMtGRSRxilN5YGfOAuD7g?width=1024&height=577&cropmode=none

[jensdad]

Definitely in the UK, I reckon... Pershore?

[nvubu]

Yes to UK, No to Pershore

[nvubu]

Very good interpretation


American - Yes
Location - yes to both
Used for crop spraying (according to wiki)
close to arrival/dep for 1st two - has a beacon.


That should give it away.

[ExAscoteer]

Nuthampstead.

OH if correct.

[nvubu]

That's the one. Looks like it's open for someone else.


Let's get this back to being an active thread.

[India Four Two]

Modern tower at a historically significant airport:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/Screen%20Shot%202016-11-07%20at%2023.15.18_zpsn6mzhom6.png

[chevvron]

Similar forum to this running in www.forums.flyer.co.uk

[Airclues]

Similar forum to this

But not as good as ours. The PPRuNe threads have had 17,265 posts since the first "Which Aerodrome" was started by seacue on 11/7/2007.

Dave

[chevvron]

But not as good as ours. The PPRuNe threads have had 17,265 posts since the first "Which Aerodrome" was started by seacue on 11/7/2007.

Dave
True.
It's only been running for just over a week though and has 370 replies but is nowhere near as disciplined as this thread.

[sidtheesexist]

Disciplined thread? Why didn't poster 5591 just say, I reckon the airfield is in East Anglia! I thought the idea was that people made sensible guesses as to the aerodrome's identity, and after a suitable interval, if no one has got the right answer, then the clues are offered? Maybe I'm in a minority of one, but I love this thread ( or used to) and feel that the enjoyment is drastically reduced by speculative posts( no personal slight intended Jenks)....
Tin helmet donned in anticipation of loadsa incoming.

[oldpax]

What Happened to "where on earth?" ,used to enjoy that!

[chevvron]

What Happened to "where on earth?" ,used to enjoy that!
It was in 'Jet Blast' not this forum.

[India Four Two]

...then the clues are offered?

OK, Sid. I was thinking it was about time for a clue. Probably won't help much though. ;)

My picture is in the Northern Hemisphere. According to "The Internet", this removes 25% of the inhabited land masses.

Something more specific tomorrow.

[India Four Two]

Here's today's more specific clue.

Four different air forces have operated out of this airfield.

[jensdad]

Wouldn't be Pristina, would it?

[India Four Two]

No, it wouldn't be. ;)

Too far north.

[India Four Two]

Originally built by the US Navy.

[Smeagol]

Just a guess, but the mountains behind look reminiscent of the Oman, so how about Seeb?

[Heathrow Harry]

Not Seeb - wrong tower, not built by USN, not historically significant - I'd N Africa?? Morooco/Algeria/Tunisia

[jensdad]

Macao? (US Navy, Japan, Portugal and China being the air forces?)

[India Four Two]

jensdad is getting close. :ok:

Not China, but in SE Asia.

And just for the record, none of the air forces mentioned by jensdad operated this airfield. It was built by the US Navy, but the first operator was the USAF.

[evansb]

Cam Ranh International Airport (IATA: CXR, ICAO: VVCR), Vietnam.

[India Four Two]

evansb has it - Cam Ranh Bay.

The air forces were:

USAF
SVNAF
NVNAF
Russian Air Force

It is now mainly the civilian airport for Nha Trang, instead of the old airport in Nha Trang, which was so convenient, you could take a cyclo (pedicab) from the airport to your hotel. Nowadays it takes 45 minutes by bus.

Over to you Bri. I didn't expect to hear from you at this hour!

[evansb]

Thank you for the excellent challenge. I am not in my usual time zone. Alas, I have no mystery aerodrome photo to offer, so it is OPEN HOUSE.

[evansb]

I managed to find one:
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b477/gumpjr_bucket/soapy%20airfield.jpg

[Russell Gulch]

:DExcellent post, I42, Although I did not have a chance at getting it, I enjoyed the tooing and froing.
Russ

[Allan Lupton]

That aerodrome looks much as I remember Madang, PNG, looking when we were there in 1982 so that's my answer.
OH if correct as I'm a bit short of time.

[evansb]

It is indeed Madang Airport (IATA: MAG, ICAO: AYMD), Papua New Guinea.

[India Four Two]

Excellent post, I42, Although I did not have a chance at getting it, I enjoyed the tooing and froing.
Russ Russ,
Thank you. I always like posting a picture I took myself, because there is no copy of it on the Internet ;)

I must admit though, I was getting a bit concerned about the initial lack of activity. I thought perhaps people had lost interest!

[Flap40]

Since Alan declared OH try this one:

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/jodel_bucket/FADF68F4-8023-49DD-808B-EA58B8727333_zpslcgcr8mv.jpg

[eckhard]

KBFI Boeing Field, Seattle WA?

[Flap40]

Sorry,not KBFI.

[oldandbald]

I think that is Tenerife North/Los Rodeos GCXO , if correct Open House as I regret nothing to offer

[Flap40]

TFN is correct.

OH declared.

[Heathrow Harry]

image removed for now - ownership issues!!!http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnwhite/6124074170

[emeritus]

It's a long way from Heathrow innit Harry !

Emeritus

[evansb]

Port Lincoln Airport (IATA: PLO, ICAO: YPLC) South Australia. I initially thought it was Kingscote..

[Heathrow Harry]

It is indeed Port Lincoln in South Australia - on the Eyre Peninsula west of Adelaide

Just starting to warm up there right now....

Kingscote looks like a classic English WW2 triangle IIRC and Kangeroo Island is a bit greener.......

over to evansb!!!!

[India Four Two]

I think that is Tenerife North/Los Rodeos GCXO

I had never seen an aerial view of Los Rodeos before. Looking at the runway and the infamous taxiway layout made me shiver.

[evansb]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I hereby declare OPEN HOUSE.

[nvubu]

As it's Open House, anyone know where this is?

https://65ynxq.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mgTmx4TJsEQ5ILKo8rysykxze4hDDZS06shRDJdsLAMgkoEmxuII4_Y0vg J1iwnSTRmgjzN-nlheV2SBjdQyM_lwLRjuErlmdrFvJWrkxvcgU3zN83KH1J1M6NYqiRSPF05I UQD2YkPxK2DoYtUpblHk4Q8P4JD8Nv6iDxcf9Sws?width=1024&height=776&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Here's an overhead that might help?

https://xrztfq.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3moUvBwjf6IUmV65j8fXMh_jL42QmQfJYnI3Ve5z8gClpi7mrILMHRR3uk3 f_MsHz3Mwb8xYWSgZeqdILXda_btQVJ0iL5kx5dnfbrr_OS0UdL1ccFF8VGE zkBJPZMP-bDMfgkaSBl5ZFw-DJVv1QKC--8x9eyF8rCQLOEsx2f1vs?width=1024&height=758&cropmode=none

[oldpax]

Somewhere in Northern territories ,Australia?Looks like lots of P-39 fuselages ?

[G-ARZG]

Lichfield Park, Arizona?

'ZG

[nvubu]

oldpax has the correct country - wrong state.

[DaveReidUK]

If it's where I think it is, the aerial image appears to be reversed.

[Background Noise]

That makes sense - don't know where it is but, after flipping it, I can make out the viewpoint in the first shot now.

[nvubu]

I did reverse it, so you are probably right :)


edit: only the 2nd shot is reversed. The airfield does still exist, but has moved, so these runways are no longer there.

[Airclues]

If it's where I think it is, the aerial image appears to be reversed.

I believe that you are correct as the cars are driving on the right.

Dave

[DaveReidUK]

Eagle Farm, Brisbane.

Open house.

[nvubu]

My original post crossed with David. Yes - it is Eagle Farm.


Here it is the with the cars on the correct side of the road. This image is searchable on an Image search, hence why I changed it to make it a bit harder.

https://w0hicg.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mfKK2c4WrIiHRkAFhFzO7GomGAPzbtZMllUQNUbYQaQPHGbA9avfdeoifG WSv8y8n9Lco8ED4EFxYRkCD4VP6AJlYzd2SGG1-8r69CdTRtyGmYtZF-CD3rqGai-liNI-nZCMQOqbnJMVlK9ulCzWXrbjdxvDl8v9o1ogtsNAku_I?width=1024&height=758&cropmode=none

The current image on Google Earth doesn't show the runway pattern, but you can see them if you go back in time.The 5 buildings below the railway line are still present.


Open House it is.

[Dora-9]

Emeritus must be away or asleep! The airline we both flew for (and loved) had its terminal in one of the Igloo hangars (the one furthest away from the camera) shown here. Our opposition cleverly burnt theirs down so that they could build anew. As nvbu says, there are very few traces left now, the entire airfield has been moved to the NE. Now I thought the Igloos had a preservation order on them, but they seem to have gone too....

[nvubu]

Dora-9 Is this one yours? (page here (http://www.adastron.com/squawkid/about.htm))
http://www.adastron.com/squawkid/drome/ansett-apron-01.jpg

[Dora-9]

Yes it is. The Ansett Terminal is the easternmost Igloo, while the rectangular metal framed hangar (just visible on the RHS of frame) is the one furthermost away in the wartime shot. It always felt slightly odd, after the aerodrome had "moved", to drive past and look over what had previously been a very busy and congested apron area and what was now an impossibly small area of bitumen, slowly breaking up and with grass growing up through it...

[Dora-9]

Having been fighting (unsuccessfully) for the last 24 hours with Photobucket, which refuses to "play nicely", I've finally managed to upload my next submission:

https://s13.postimg.org/plam572xz/Weeibee3.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/e8y0neu8z/)image upload no registration (https://postimage.org/)

[asw28-866]

Fertile fruit growing area down under perchance?

[Dora-9]

Downunder, yes. If you're hinting about the possible fertilizer (from what the area is infamous but noted for), then yes. If not, I'll explain this very obscure clue later...

[Dora-9]

OK, a clue then: one of the handful of airfields used for the mass scraping of RAAF aircraft after WWII ended...

[nvubu]

Would it be Werribee Airfield?

[asw28-866]

I think we are on the same page Dora-9, I was referring to 'Mamma & Pappa Poo'!

[Dora-9]

nvubu is correct, it is Werribee. You have the con!

asw28 - yes, on the same wavelength indeed.

The two uppermost hangars still exist, the very top one houses a B-24 restoration project.

[nvubu]

Thank you, that was an interesting search.


Here's a recent picture of a long gone airfield.
https://ucjoug.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mSon2VcWBe5LcOLJd5qwqBMxM2xCyZouDjRIR6WrmUlUd0RdaQqgTWkO-h3PTX8wMLcvHQiRHXZ7nIpQcCyhjLcAUYGycANXK9BsgZUAggcs5Y4Zx7xBU E4uI_oz3NcvDz99VSdQc5JCJl1gb177SzVhNRMN6XUt5CbOwyQi1jb8?widt h=1024&height=507&cropmode=none

[eckhard]

Great Sampford, north of Stansted, near Thaxted and Wimbish Green.

[nvubu]

Spot on eckhard, Great Sampford it is - thought it would be named fairly quickly.

You have control.

[eckhard]

Try as I might, I can't seem to attach a photo using my iPad.
So: Open House!

[Russell Gulch]

As it's OH, I'm going to offer two photos for the same aerodrome building, but there is a catch, there are two aerodromes involved
Both aerodrome names would be nice to pass the batton.
So, Where was the original aerodrome, and which aerodrome is it on now?


Bonus point for the name of the Bar, which is not inside the Tower.

Russ


http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/868mick/WA611_zpsip3mprxe.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/868mick/WA612_zps6gemc1kg.jpg


Russell

[nvubu]

What an interesting search that was.

At first I was going in the direction of Mildenhall and Thorpe Abbots as the Thorpe Abbotts tower has the same shaped structure on top, but couldn't rationalise the aircraft in the image. unless it was at Mildenhall :)

Now I have: National Museum of the USAF / Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. for the location of the tower (a replica?). The Nissan hut comes from Debden and houses The Belly Tank Bar.

[David Thompson]

The Nissan hut

Nissen hut I believe !

[Russell Gulch]

Ill give that to you nvubu since you name both airfeilds Debden and Wright-Patterson. The Tower is the very one from Debden, not a replica, relocated to Datyon. You also get the bonus point for the name of the bar which was also relocatted
You well-deservedly have the control.
Russ

[nvubu]

Thanks Russell.

From the National Museum of the USAF website here (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/MuseumExhibits/FactSheets/Display/tabid/509/Article/195877/wwii-8th-air-force-control-tower.aspx)

Note: This reproduction of the 1942 standard control tower, representative of 8th Air Force control towers used in Great Britain during World War II, is located on the museum grounds in the Air Park (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/MuseumExhibits/AirPark.aspx). The building is open from noon to 4 p.m. Friday, Saturday and Sunday from January through March (closed Monday through Thursday) and from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. daily April through December.

The tower at Debden looks very different.


I don't have anything right now - but will have this evening - so OPEN HOUSE.

[chevvron]

The tower at Fulbeck used to have a VCR of similar design.

[nvubu]

A bit earlier than I thought .... but it is evening somewhere in the world.

Here's the next airfield.
https://tbnaga.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mB3m9S72W9eVrh4UOniSmv_4XhlQ88VxvFUoyVhxSYWx7gAmCsxZFwP0aQ CA75u_VgM2dM8hSb3OiwWnhGc63gIgjWQTNXhm5ExsveRSgKdRQ2rtR6IAYf RNsM08oR20qVXdtbOBaLfM4vTSZAg-iFW_3V7xdbZ_c0RIucAbMcKs?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none

[David Thompson]

'Colinski Airfield' at Spadeadam in Cumbria .
Unsurprisingly looks nothing like an airfield on the ground but you need to view it on Google Earth .
Plenty to post but no idea how to so open house !

[India Four Two]

David,

Click on the Paper Clip icon in the Reply dialog and upload a picture.

By the way, it is a convention here to wait for confirmation before posting or declaring OH.

[nvubu]

I thought that might be a bit too easy.

Over to you David - we can't let you get away with an open house if you have plenty of images ;)

[nvubu]

This is one from David Thompson


https://vpqfrq.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3m8WdhnkknK5k6brRQP0TYRUba35XS0UyAH3vkr9Mkh0r2zTmrhyUsTzKi8-0sq_N4XU-EVIbrwW-UWMPZRCBfLRZyzeIM3_sDUxNxxKbWHJDhJWrnvow1-_S8_KuO7vAs5dkWs_x_HFU8l_Kpg95UlRJ37oL4BC0-_ZiNYoUsmbs?width=1024&height=678&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

Somewhere in the Midlands?

[David Thompson]

No , sorry India Four Two . Right country though !

[nvubu]

Felixkirk Airfield. North Yorkshire

And before you ask, David didn't tell me the name before I posted it for him :)

[India Four Two]

What a nice looking strip. And near Sutton Bank too. A bonus!

[David Thompson]

Yes nvubu , Felixkirk it is . A nice airfield much expanded around 7-8 years ago with a new block of hangars seen top right of the strip but sadly it never seems very active these days . Over to you , again , nvubu !

[nvubu]

Thank you - took a bit of searching, but I guessed it was somewhere up north.

Here's one from yesteryear
https://ucjnug.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mfhdoTwPhpLxIodW3blXmM_9QBUewkBVJFIy16LMFybYJux7QLb11FQtBd as4gNgNdqbBvtvws1NOJfuHjPHJroSEZnE2wB_qyRjPnYJkwzH6zvvCGX67r 3BSXca6qQWyJNEzszH0Je0iS_K-qRrfm_oCiumwbvioV03lspBOyW8?width=1024&height=575&cropmode=none

[Dora-9]

Somewhere in the Far East?

[nvubu]

Not in the far east.

I'll give some clues as I cannot find another photograph of this location - or any other reference to it apart from the book I have access to.

If I was standing where the photographer was, behind me there is a fort - that is today still occupied by the military. The smoke that can be seen in the middle left could well be from a steam train arriving into or departing from the railway terminus, which is still present.

I am fairly sure I've matched the hills in the background on GE, even though they are obscured by cruise liners / ferries. The buildings in the photo are unrecognisable.

[sycamore]

Looks a bit `Italian` to me...?

[nvubu]

Close, but not Italian

[India Four Two]

I thought Italian too. So maybe Greece or Turkey?

That floatplane looks very familiar but I can't place it

[nvubu]

You are going the wrong direction.

[nvubu]

It's on an island - looking north.

[India Four Two]

Island, not Italian, railway, cruise ships, hills, looking north.

Ajaccio?

[Flap40]

The other side of the island I think. Bastia?

[chevvron]

Marsaxxlok (Malta)

[nvubu]

Well done India 42, Ajaccio it is - around 1929. I have some more where this one came from.


Over to you.

[India Four Two]

nvubu,

Good challenge. It was the railway clue, which clinched it for me.

I can't access PB for some reason, so OH. Why don't you post another image?

I still want to know what the aircraft is.

[nvubu]

I shouldn't have mentioned looking north until the following post :) Napoleon was another clue, but that would have made it too easy.

Here is a slightly different challenge than usual, in that it is a plan of an aerodrome that was built, however this part no longer exists, but the modern land version does and is basically the other side of the road.

I have edited the plan to remove all the names (I hope) Maybe enough clues in the image for this to be a quick one.

https://55ypxq.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3m9jiHVCVC1wwt8ShpZN6MZBuosuGTyuwMVCXZUuhnxgOg84xFYzmQ9KVT4 RYKWWao_sXjga3POHZUNLuc8ayeWEM3YiZF8vxopu8He959H2mqTfh9D17DM 9rYIZNhbNUFHi_Ey-jJF954Wrk23M2s9E3zfJURA-YFfFHhp9vQC7Y?width=1024&height=787&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Clue time: It is not in France

[oldpax]

Geneva?On the lake!

[nvubu]

Not Geneva or Entebbe, but the latter is on the same continent.

[Allan Lupton]

How about Albertville (as it was then)?

[nvubu]

Not Albertville.

[Allan Lupton]

My other suggestion is Bujumbura (Usumbura then).

[nvubu]

Not Bujumbura either.


You are too far south.

[India Four Two]

I'm learning a lot about African lakes and French colonies!

How about Bizerte?

[nvubu]

It's not the Ivory Coast.

I see where you are looking at I42 - however, the current airport is an International one and not military.


edit to add: there is nothing left that I can see of the aerodrome shown in the plans, the shoreline has changed - with reclamation I assume - and the road layout is completely different.

[clareprop]

I'm wondering if a little curve ball has been thrown in here...might this be a Belgian colony?

[nvubu]

No, French it is

[India Four Two]

Perhaps I should not have gone so far north. How about Tunis? Although the orientation of the lakeshore seems wrong.

[nvubu]

Yup, it is Tunis
Here's the unaltered image. Direct flights to Ajaccio back in the day.
https://hhe2aa.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3meq5k8DaqszfS0zaw2H5EJ8ZmDfZW8d_oQC09OBDJct6SbEoLmKUuwlg8k VFOD4hT2SsPpfCf7ZJkwbrxOx5uXyHVmNompXVFS-liUI6psUVn3PAN3rONXpcmoexTc-aMyVlrYm9pX3a7C3qF_ZBjO2Rjh3QU2cyprp-5JjjD3cg?width=1024&height=787&cropmode=none

I've been doing some further browsing of the book I've got access to, and I came across a similar plan for the seaplane base at Ajaccio that I thought I'd share;
https://sbnaga.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mok_ZwUx1hLOVXTKvFgg7W1OezizlbGREmAKv-ioj5eHIU7Ci64VdMhViOaLbyG4JsvdYgpUaOYX2DFbkNThyG7z8EH0YfabcZ TS9DbT2erIqzng9HRvY71uSSvgFfPAufCQ7DweN3yUGWdpiATS-U0As2Ku04-CMFpJySlH6LYk?width=1024&height=986&cropmode=none

As you may guess, there might be some more "Which Aerodromes" coming from this source.

There are also maps of routes
https://7upuig.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mqR99F4oV22pQ6MslcioTOBoMIRdOUMONaKuYZ3n8GbDcrF0yUgj8u4Z3C LswOPaY6tzYGfEAUsnrnf_leOhJQnRNA5r3_UwjSGSa-Z-kutKjxe8LOijSG-Bl5sr8zURni0pG8JRlJ3LCmUEjLrZKPnUuVSzxVo7GZ2OXKDMvLio?width= 1024&height=773&cropmode=none



and a fair number adverts for aeroplanes
https://u28t6a.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3msZd-qxL9diSAk2qKEWCj8x4W1GKMk-zKwT1FSj2YkNt-hzBG6RoYQJQCsUvRqqQyRFxRu0NtPf5UdSdW_1YhMq4xIJ2pAUEcgJiAzVcr vzhvXZubvuQSCfz920aJ5lFXMykQmin-p65L-ShskfdQwaJc0yeZXTJBFhpCfa8QgT8?width=1024&height=624&cropmode=none


Over to you I42.

[India Four Two]

Great challenge. It's interesting that I can find no reference to this seaplane base,

I'm unable to login to Photobucket, so I'll upload directly.

Not my photo, but I've flown here, many years ago.

[nvubu]

There's a reference to it on the wiki page for Carthage International Airport - although not by name. Built for the seaplanes of Compagnie Aéronavale. Superseded by the land base after 15-20 years. You can see the by the names of the roads that Tunis is to the left, La Goulette the port on the right. There's also a reference to it here (http://toulouse.tiziouzou.free.fr/culture%20recherches.html) - I'll see if I can find an image of it in the book.

[nvubu]

I'd guess somewhere in Canada

[India Four Two]

You would guess right. By a big river too, I'll give you that! ;)

[jensdad]

Could it be Sept-Iles?

[India Four Two]

Sept-Îles is on a big river, but not this one.

[nvubu]

Big river? Mackenzie River is the longest?

[India Four Two]

Yes. I was surprised to discover that it is the second longest in North America, after the Mississippi.

[nvubu]

Good thing I guessed the river at first go, as there's an awful lot of water in that neck of the woods. So a searching we shall go, source to sea - nice lunch hour pasttime :)

About half way along - Norman Wells. Looks like an interesting place. Good range of temperatures too!

A fair number of settlements with airstrips along the way as well.

Open House - I'll have some more this evening if no-one jumps in first.

[India Four Two]

Well done, Norman Wells, CYVQ it is. About 80 nm south of the Arctic Circle.

An interesting history to the place, particularly during WWII:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Wells

I stopped in there once for refuelling, in a Twin Otter 100 CF-CSF, on my way from Calgary to Shingle Point DEW Line Station. 1300 nm, six sectors, 13 hours elapsed time!

I was joining a geological field party, via a re-supply run. In-flight catering was no problem - just two pilots, me and a ton of groceries!

It's Open House

[nvubu]

Bit of a change of direction for my next one
https://7uptig.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mglyWPWRSFwnrsEfO81NgAi8esLNqpxpX60flB4qy9me_-U3HdnkKGoJo66EEg23oSD1I09x1xpfjEoPDTu3iX2SdzjV5cFTSnmA6pWvBC-pcj3P49HlVkd4Ih7-0D5Jm8WgmxoCDNpfso9iFNdpCUQWHRr0NwIefF5t2FjQZKIs?width=1024&height=818&cropmode=none



and
https://u28s6a.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3m438lNH6qlwrWrY4_RZej8T-tldseZXNCgrR6u59I1-LszgThTuBIQegtGlgNooGubJYClTAM8Sk3DkmvcQLMQP8PXSMTkiOCK1SZxt jqdLkAhUpFFZ_rjrCMxz5gRerMqryhIRFl0h2xPyCxdckQSvYXfhHDsGfJM8 bd0acdsAs?width=1024&height=755&cropmode=none

[evansb]

Tachikawa Airfield, Japan ?

[nvubu]

Sorry, not in Japan

[evansb]

The hangar is of WW.II Japanese design. Ushi Point, Tinian ?

[nvubu]

Yes, definitely Japanese, but not on Tinian - close by though.

Here it is from the front
https://v0hlcg.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mWQj_RSvDyh-fcFwkaoc_VsVJT2eLiujyN54YlqK9406Oc4fAu4zX9GTNjvFQkZQRLqg2YcQ ibse7i7FPg4QbPBZelAGtFUvPuZis0FR2j6U5GlQcyYrA4Slxiyopaqkr5LY tXPhNlqwPhcdxO3Ovl4mMgokORFM6sApJZCtVqjI?width=1024&height=771&cropmode=none


Also a fair number of these scattered around
https://sbmqga.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3m3J1ZRKAJkrrXz7X4f3N1gBaScfMK_9wH1WQnNGguqFtp4vmo5mtjHweG1 p344uJfovu37T-sC98lfzr5DuF1gC3KVxlx9jS_m8i4R_LdkCU-PeeVtR-y4G3G35Vm2DIIakm1rpAwxlGi6GUwv7u8WUOEt2Y3X5jcnJQMDEM6_fs?wid th=1024&height=739&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Surprised no one has got this after my "close by though" clue :(

[India Four Two]

Close alphabetically as well as geographically?

[nvubu]

Geographically

[nvubu]

The US made some changes
https://mvmz0q.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mLVQeYHsc5dy0vY7owM0KVCiga3Z8rzjPbkzQwHr33UklRt6efE7_2DVMc qQwYBeIZaTFzUOalkzCxxls5UNRE0Ks-uXwxxQts5mqak9C1x5aM8nEtGic2XksrJYeAffAbImNIMFaK4ztfwOx3PgU-rKyKUn1m-ty_6C7uzVIXHc?width=1024&height=786&cropmode=none

[Smeagol]

Geographically close = Saipan?

[nvubu]

Yes, it is on Saipan - but which one :)


Can you give more than one name it has been known as?

[India Four Two]

Aslito, Isley Field, Francisco C. Ada/Saipan International Airport

[nvubu]

That's the one.


Over to you for the next challenge.

[India Four Two]

Thanks. My alphabetical question related to S is close to T. :)

However, I was confused by your subsequent picture of B-24s. I was expecting to see B-29s.

Here's another Arctic aerodrome I've been to.

[India Four Two]

Perhaps Mi-4s are two-a-penny at Arctic Aerodromes?

Here's something more tangible:

[Flap40]

Usinsk seems to fit.

(Found the UT Air route map and went through it on G' earth)

Open house if correct I'm afraid.

[barry lloyd]

Noyabrsk perhaps?

On second thoughts, I think Flap 40 has it.

[India Four Two]

Well done Flap40. Usinsk in the Komi Republic. I flew in there in the early 90s in a chartered Canadian mining-company 727. Although the 727 was so old that it still had hat-racks rather than overhead lockers, it was the most modern aircraft ever seen in Usinsk. People were lined up to take tours through it.

Flap40 has declared Open House.

[nvubu]

Here's another mystery aerodrome.
https://kvmc0q.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3m-pNqwJNABIL_pPir-GwIvbU9TSlp7aPXB8M6hPXsly9S_k5e8HVCOTNMVYDzVzdCgVlOQUPzSCRLZ z05zjTEmAEPQs_xEWTLfE027Re9RJ79o2wqWfj6EIatNwFVyhRwopj5woKct EkAeXXwoDnyGv0b52QWa2ti7o81IkWcX_s?width=1536&height=436&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

It looks cold and miserable. Aleutians?

[nvubu]

It's certainly those two, but wrong side of the continent.

[India Four Two]

So, cold and miserable and Bluie then?

[nvubu]

So, cold and miserable and Bluie then?
Cold yes, miserable, well it looks it from the location. Not sure of the Bluie reference though :-(

More greenish if it us a colour reference :-)

[India Four Two]

You need to brush up on your history young man ;)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluie

I've researched all of them and still cannot nail it.

[nvubu]

Ha ha - I didn't look very far.

OK. It's on that list.

The photo might be a "bit" misleading in that it is a 360 degree panorama, and the sloping hills at the left and right are actually parts of the same mountain. The photo is in infra-red.


edited: I didn't look very far, not you.

[India Four Two]

OK. After saving the photo and zooming-in and then doing some Google Earthing, I think it's Bluie West 8 aka Sondrestrom, now Kangerlussuaq airport.

[nvubu]

Not according to the document I'm looking at dated 1944.

I had to shrink the image to show it here (3730 pixels wide) - this (https://zykxra.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mkNue4gdSMcbdvYU4UuGOt9L2Xq1rp5gbiCdtwHSjry_pyE-hjn9yqYcp9ef2stgX8ErWNKo6kRsEOFK3i_1K0iHTLF89yP1kxMbYvLNDOfI FWwgzblhxG5iL-fUiTwmyf6h86pUyrG1pZai-7OlrnCUyVGzMXodmcQ3RdZEgWHI?width=3731&height=1059&cropmode=none) is a link to the full size image - It will download from OneDrive, save it with a .jpg on the end as OneDrive files get a really meaningless name.


edit to add: when I zoom in I'm fairly sure that this isn't a 360 degree view as the source document states, but rather a 180 degree panorama of stitched together images as I can match the existing features to those in the photo.

[India Four Two]

Yes, I assumed it was 180 degrees. ;)

Well, my alternative guess is Bluie West One - Narsarsuaq airport.

[nvubu]

Yes got it in two. Called Narsarssuak back then.


There were some pretty lonely weather station outposts back then.


Over to you - more Arctic themed locations?

[India Four Two]

Great challenge.

Yes, I looked at some of those weather station locations - pretty remote places!

I don't have a picture to post so Open House.

[nvubu]

Let's keep this show on the road - it's not in the Arctic :)

https://mudlqg.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mjaMKFfnIpFB6z0u1Wl7Up_WCNzaEfAoZFMfhS9iFkiOJybVrytkhqTZq9 84EGrYXUrZKwD0SSBDLw9hC6DXp5NDzBB1kirkcGeV37PJuB4oVc9_YhoF6T ECdSzzKuEMlResxv0EKFNzLMkeoJ43lj4PA4kASWL5IsuMHRfS2kzQ?width =1024&height=985&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Time for a clue or two.


At the top of the image is a canal.
There is still an airfield here.

[jensdad]

Hmmm, a canal? Schiphol?

[nvubu]

It's not Schipol I'm afraid. Wrong country.

[nvubu]

Holland was neutral during the war when this bombing raid took place, and remarkably little has changed in the intervening years
https://medfqg.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mVfP4TJwNMiAQIW9vLzLNn2I1lQHa6g4O2HBKeXjBK_j7PNKOx5pqWr1r2 eOz5FxO4W0UBor4DCMZqOyFluMCPouRwssCBA7x78XsNxbtUslKRxKgZrweg OH3xlSC8BFsBsMdXh6qXsw1I-TEQ973_qe_nQm5C0GjlAgNlQUxywc?width=1023&height=818&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

It's French now, but wasn't then.

[India Four Two]

So it wasn't part of France "then", or was in France, but operated by a non-French air force?

[nvubu]

It was not part of France pre WWI.

[India Four Two]

Well, that narrows down the search a bit! :ok:

[India Four Two]

Found it. Sarrebourg - Buhl LFGT.

Sneaky orientation - I was looking for an east-west canal!

JENKINS,
I think your dog was close, but in the wrong neighbourhood. ;)

[nvubu]

That's the one. I was going to post that north is approx. <------------- way. :)

I can't believe how little has changed over the last 100 years. The bridge over the canal has been taken up and the road diverted. The hangers have gone and some houses have encroached.

There is surprising little written about this airfield that I can find. Built by Germany pre war, so in aviation terms very old.

This is about the most detailed history: https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%25C3%25A9rodrome_de_Sarrebourg_-_Buhl&prev=search

Over to you.

[India Four Two]

Thanks - great challenge. I must have looked at every airfield from Dunkirk to Strasbourg, but kept missing the NE corner!

Still unable to login to Photobucket, so here's an attachment. I thought of this airfield, when I saw nvubu's last challenge.

[nvubu]

No idea, so time for guess the location - France & French?

[evansb]

Camp Borden, Ontario, Canada?

[India Four Two]

Trust a Canuck to get it right!

evansb has control