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Self loading bear
19th Mar 2019, 18:22
I then assume an English name?

JENKINS
19th Mar 2019, 18:28
In a form of English, and totally made-up to create some relevance with reference to a nearby boundary. That should confuse even a Limburger!

Self loading bear
19th Mar 2019, 18:43
Like scottish. Irish or pidgin ( no offence meant by putting them together)
and boundary is not a border
but something like Great barrier reef ?

JENKINS
19th Mar 2019, 20:09
Boundary, not a border, I can certainly state that, and the made-up feature rather like a British habit of creating a house name from such detail as surnames.

JENKINS
19th Mar 2019, 20:29
Omitted to clarify the language matter, but perhaps that may be left, by attribution, to George Bernard Shaw.

India Four Two
19th Mar 2019, 21:09
totally made-up to create some relevance with reference to a nearby boundary. That should confuse even a Limburger!

... but not someone who used to live in Texas!

Texarkana Regional Airport KTXK

JENKINS
19th Mar 2019, 21:29
Nice one - Tex-Ark-Ana. Texarkana, on the Texas/Arkansas border, with two towns ( cities? ) of the same name either side of the state line, with the airfield in Arkansas. The GBS attribution comes to the fore so often, lovely.

All yours.

India Four Two
19th Mar 2019, 21:52
Thanks JENKINS. Your comment about boundaries rather than borders, combined with the made-up name reference immediately brought Texarkana to mind. It's geographically one city, but politically two. The "ana" in the name comes from Louisiana which is only 30 miles to the south.

State Line Avenue follows the Texas-Arkansas state line throughout much of Texarkana. The two "sides" of Texarkana are separate only from a political standpoint. Thousands of locals actually live in one state and work in the other.

Owing to its divided political nature, Texarkana has two mayors and two sets of city officials; however, the two sides share a federal building, courthouse, jail, post office, labor office, chamber of commerce, water utility, and several other offices.

I've never been there but was aware of it from my time in Houston. What is interesting from a non-US perspective, when I looked it up on GE is that there are three other airports, six miles or less from the centre of twin cities with a population of only 70,000. Not very unusual in the US.

This challenge shouldn't last long. I took these pictures last Sunday and post them mainly because of the interesting aircraft.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/img_2313_9914d82d293b47c31dd90017b6597244dc6ab2d6.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/img_2307_3a0300513aadd8d372a79eb929e9d510f8b064bf.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/img_2310_70b67433219c9c539e3a191249a3564861d752af.jpg

dook
19th Mar 2019, 22:07
RCAF Dunnville museum possibly.

err.....no.

evansb
19th Mar 2019, 22:20
Red Deer Regional Airport, (CYQF) Alberta, Canada. Formerly CFB Penhold.

dixi188
19th Mar 2019, 22:46
Nice to see the Buffalo Electra still in "Atlantic" colours.

evansb
19th Mar 2019, 23:54
Yes, Buffalo Airways have 4 active Electra's and 4 inactive Electra's. Red Deer is Buffalo's maintenance and storage base. Their operations bases are Yellowknife NWT, and Hay River, NWT.

Here is the next challenge:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/615x406/5lohdhk_9da2adeaa8b0f6914ecdd5d311db6e09c1160bdf.jpg

India Four Two
20th Mar 2019, 00:03
Yes, Red Deer. I was there for the AGM of the Alberta Soaring Council.

Note the DC-4 in the background of the Beaver picture. It hasn’t moved since at least last June.

dixi188, does that explain the British flag on the Electra?

sycamore
20th Mar 2019, 00:05
Still got `FE` on the nose gear doors,was G-LOFE at AA in Coventry ,when I spent several hours in it testing the `crop-spray ``boom fitted for pollution control..Flutter,asymmetric,,Vno,and stalling...the upper windows in the cockpit help greatly in recovery from the stall if one really persists...then the spraying tests at~50ft over Holyhead harbour,or watering the grass at Coventry..Such fun with your trousers on.....

lauriebe
20th Mar 2019, 01:11
Caernarfon I think. OH if correct.

evansb
20th Mar 2019, 06:43
Caernarfon, Wales, is correct. lauriebe has control.

oldpax
20th Mar 2019, 07:59
http://i66.tinypic.com/1gge87.jpg
OH ?Large clue right there in the photo!Sorry for the quality.

JENKINS
20th Mar 2019, 10:22
Start with Chattis Hill?

oldpax
20th Mar 2019, 11:00
No its not chattis hill.there is a small aviation museum nearbye!Looking to the north by east.

dook
20th Mar 2019, 11:37
Good evening oldpax.

Is it Beacon Hill, Morpeth ?

oldpax
20th Mar 2019, 11:44
Not Beacon hill but your getting warm Dook!

dook
20th Mar 2019, 11:48
Snipe House, Alnwick ?

oldpax
20th Mar 2019, 12:09
Warmer still but some way from Alnwick.

dook
20th Mar 2019, 12:23
North or south of Alnwick ?

Was it a night landing strip ?

dook
20th Mar 2019, 12:49
I'm wondering if that is Bamburgh Castle in the distance.

nvubu
20th Mar 2019, 12:52
Bamburgh Castle in the background?

Elford Landing Ground / RAF Elford / RFC Elford / RAF Seahouses ??

ETA: crossed with dook on the castle :)

dook
20th Mar 2019, 12:57
At least it's not yet another GE picture. :)

oldpax
20th Mar 2019, 13:21
Elford it is or Elford field aerodrome.Home defence airfield.Nvubu has it!

evansb
20th Mar 2019, 13:24
FYI Caernarfon wasn't a Google Earth image.

dook
20th Mar 2019, 13:55
I know it wasn't. :)

nvubu
20th Mar 2019, 14:44
Lovely picture.

Bamburgh immediately came to mind for the building on a hill, either that or Whitby Abbey. Going to street level on Google maps approx.where I thought the image was from and then looking towards the castle confirmed the former. Just had to find an airfield nearby, which abct provided :ok:

Here is the next challenge
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jensdad
20th Mar 2019, 14:45
This thread is a constant source of fascination for me.... I've been long that road between Bamburgh and Seahouses more times than I can remember and I was never remotely aware that there had been an airfield there! Keep the great photos coming, folks :)

dook
20th Mar 2019, 14:51
Baltimore ?

nvubu
20th Mar 2019, 15:45
This isn't Baltimore.

dook
20th Mar 2019, 15:46
Is it the USA though ?

nvubu
20th Mar 2019, 16:27
Nope, wrong side of the Atlantic

dook
20th Mar 2019, 17:08
Looking at the greenery maybe Germany.

sycamore
20th Mar 2019, 19:33
Is it part of a larger a/f under construction...France?

nvubu
21st Mar 2019, 07:46
It is in France. Not in use for very long (less than 3 months)
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dook
21st Mar 2019, 11:20
If it was temporary, was it anything to do with the American Expeditionary Force ?

dook
21st Mar 2019, 11:30
Might it be Delouze ?

nvubu
21st Mar 2019, 13:09
Yes to both of your posts - Delouze it is.

As with a number of other WWI challenges in France I've posted, still recognisable as not much has changed on the ground.

dook has control.

dook
21st Mar 2019, 14:03
Thank you nvubu.

Next:

http://i65.tinypic.com/nprtog.jpg

nvubu
21st Mar 2019, 14:13
Middle east ?

dook
21st Mar 2019, 14:16
Yes indeed.

kaikohe76
21st Mar 2019, 18:30
Is it an early Dubai?

Self loading bear
21st Mar 2019, 18:31
Looks alike old Muscat Musqat airport. But
this seems to be much smaller and the tower does not match.
Perhaps the earliest stage?

OH if correct.

SLB

dook
21st Mar 2019, 19:00
We're not in Dubai or Muscat.

JENKINS
21st Mar 2019, 21:18
Early days at what is now King Faisal Air Academy?

dook
21st Mar 2019, 21:36
Not Saudi either.

WIDN62
21st Mar 2019, 21:59
Kuwait International?

dook
21st Mar 2019, 22:00
Not Kuwait either.

In fact, it's not in the Arabian peninsula.

sycamore
21st Mar 2019, 23:28
How`s about India...?

Harry Wayfarers
22nd Mar 2019, 08:43
It's not that airfield, or desert landing strip, where the likes of BOAC would stop for fuel and put the punters to bed for the night in the old days that was the subject of a thread a few years back, was it called Fort something or other, and the terminal in the pic is now in the centre of a town?

dook
22nd Mar 2019, 08:49
It's not India - I have already said it's middle east.

It's not Fort something.

Think conflict.

oldpax
22nd Mar 2019, 11:34
Could it be Kabul?OH if correct!

kenparry
22nd Mar 2019, 11:36
Arab-Israeli conflicts? Egypt?

dook
22nd Mar 2019, 14:11
Later than the Arab-Israeli conflicts, much bigger, and not Afghanistan.

C'mon guys not many countries left

Self loading bear
22nd Mar 2019, 14:20
Think conflict.

That only rules out Jordan, I guess?

sycamore
22nd Mar 2019, 14:51
Iran-Iraq..?

dook
22nd Mar 2019, 14:56
Now we're moving.

Iraq.

JENKINS
22nd Mar 2019, 15:28
Moving towards what appears to be Sirsenk Airport on the edge of Baghdad.

dook
22nd Mar 2019, 16:00
Good try but no.

Self loading bear
22nd Mar 2019, 17:17
Barmani airport near Mosul

Nice challenge
OH if correct

SLB

sycamore
22nd Mar 2019, 17:26
Siirte,Tina,or Bamerne...?

dook
22nd Mar 2019, 17:26
Barmani - built illegally by Turkey without informing the Iraqi authorities.

Nice shot SLB. :ok:

Nine minutes late sycamore, but you might care to take the OH.

OH has been called.

sycamore
22nd Mar 2019, 17:54
Actually,it is/was known as Sersink/Tina/Bamerne...Went there once 06/`91,when it was `under costruction/destruction`to p/u some fella believed to be SH,who had a palace nearby...the`terminal` was made of `breeze blocks `and the runway was more of a dirt road...the area around was full of Kurds in large camps....It wasn`t SH,just a `lookalike`...
OH...

Self loading bear
23rd Mar 2019, 10:18
Ok I have time to host a quick one:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1059x745/f16352c0_bc22_479a_96f5_9406cbb5071c_e8d2a57ee7867d25922869a 4e09d115ec4ad82ec.jpeg

sycamore
23rd Mar 2019, 10:40
" Burner wouldn`t light` says `dook`,as Jenks and SLB look on...!!

Self loading bear
23rd Mar 2019, 10:46
Perhaps we should enter this one in “caption of the week”?

dook
23rd Mar 2019, 11:04
I warned you that the stall prevention system would cause disaster.

"crashed triplane" produces this:

A.V. Roe stands beside his crashed Avro No.1 Triplane at Wembley, 24 December 1910 after attempting a turn.

sycamore
23rd Mar 2019, 11:38
`Dook` looked a picture of sartorial elegance in his new flying suit and `turning-trousers`,but still found it difficult when taxiing..!

Self loading bear
23rd Mar 2019, 12:41
Dook you are totally correct


Colour=left=0000
is logical as this picture is black-and-white!

picture is also used by FlightGlobal when page not found:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x1334/03410f74_7882_4330_9e5d_66f59aef5bfd_0c8b16990de6a6ede1e6bbd 2bda9db000404f492.png

Dook has control
So I hope he handles next flight a bit better!

Cheers SLB

dook
23rd Mar 2019, 13:20
This Colour=left=0000 rubbish occurs every time I highlight a quote in my posts. I don't know why it happens. It doesn't when I post on another site.

However,

http://i65.tinypic.com/2uy3n9w.jpg

jensdad
23rd Mar 2019, 18:21
Hi Dook, that looks a little like a 1950's Dublin, but the large amount of aircraft and cars makes me less than 100% confident...

dook
23rd Mar 2019, 18:39
Hello jensdad.

Maybe you should try a very long swim…...

sycamore
23rd Mar 2019, 23:58
Overheard in an Indian restaurant,"more Balti".......
Later...OPEN Door....!

chevvron
24th Mar 2019, 00:49
Very similar to the original 1950s design for Gatwick.

India Four Two
24th Mar 2019, 02:32
The design of the hangar and the large number of light aircraft, plus dook's comment about "a very long swim" make me suspect that this is a US airport.

chimbu warrior
24th Mar 2019, 03:31
Baltimore Friendship International. See Friendship BWI Baltimore Airport History (http://www.kilduffs.com/Baltimore_FriendshipAirport_History.html)

I can't take credit for this however, as Sycamore's earlier response seems to have been overlooked.

dook
24th Mar 2019, 09:28
I hadn't overlooked the post from sycamore - I had simply gone to bed.

He has said "Later...OPEN Door". I don't know whether this is a play on words or if he means open house.

He obviously found Baltimore and so I offer him the thread.

sycamore
24th Mar 2019, 10:16
Much ,much later-OPEN HOUSE.... but keep clear...

dook
25th Mar 2019, 11:11
"…. but keep clear..."

I'm not sure how to interpret this statement but maybe players are awaiting a further response.

24 hours of open house now. :uhoh:

sycamore
25th Mar 2019, 12:32
Just a `play on words` to fit with the airfield in question...the repercussions of too much `Balti` are `not to be sniffed at`,so it must be `OPEN HOUSE`...DOORS AND WINDOWS..!!
I guess as a `WIWOL`you only dealt with your `own`, but I have spent many an hour or more on 100% O2 in a Herk after a `crew meal,` downtown `somewhere`...
OPEN HOUSE....

nvubu
25th Mar 2019, 12:55
Open House no more
https://nenlpg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4ml4D-as1UUXibJDVHYESMerZAZXQY8wXKyk_UTytAqz8eLp1t3rAeWUoYlThjzZ-LzXVUgqhYtqs1dQGtAYwzO5NpEua-ID06fJBgILDtG8vKIWI6YZxcre1bznq19aDNyf9MChqOShXiZ506wef5vOB9 JCDdAp5DlcqZdyQS5w08IeLfUE5XsxNkT8G2T60nPKS9S3PSLwgrBCSm9iKE kg?width=1024&height=744&cropmode=none

dook
25th Mar 2019, 13:09
Chap on the right bare chested and one on an old motorcycle.

India ?

nvubu
25th Mar 2019, 14:23
It is not in India, but you are correct in that he is bare chested and it is an old motorcycle :)

dook
25th Mar 2019, 14:53
A hot part of the USA maybe.

nvubu
25th Mar 2019, 15:13
Not the USA either - but it is hot, and there was a US connection - as evidenced by the below.
https://zwb9tq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mpeVu0xVpjW2nz6k5PoBO9EnNtwXDdzI9PCexqxw0dz3Pl_y1m8JXDnxQb ZmZwNX6eRyjMIjO5HsUYxhdmlBAmMkAJ3xFLKtNfyedaU25ZhvHrW4uWlzq3 zSP-dRRu97-9hf-IJKTp19x1S4p6JnTDkmA6WurFLk6ffvcN_HUNP4mgvgQWdOGItbJkIbWW7qr B1xXFgF3d6EhAvFDliix0w?width=1024&height=718&cropmode=none

dook
25th Mar 2019, 16:09
Thelepte ?

nvubu
25th Mar 2019, 17:17
It isn't in Tunisia. - had to look up Thelepte

dook
25th Mar 2019, 17:23
I'll try Egypt, but if that's wrong it's probably time to leave north Africa.

ea200
25th Mar 2019, 18:43
The 'connection' leads me to suspect Algeria.

nvubu
25th Mar 2019, 20:27
It's not in Egypt or Algeria - and you would be correct to leave North Africa well alone.

Another view of (I'd guess) arrivals.

https://lqkgzq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m9Ci_cIf815MRo4SLqMn3rw0vV3zS-b6CmXKoYaVFEOYx8kWPvriniq2F-LHs9DGDPFMISUgUvJ9OWmgxhdTWhg0nuAPKlLhx7g_cx_TkqvcSnjbxWCFa0 NhUbt7C5ullCfOw5pfJlsb0J30W5s5WsaOpqOyK0nIf6rOwYzb1rap3kdcaV 5VLyK5GxLkfLfB0UIXRzLZidDMr7jPP8VBieg?width=1024&height=746&cropmode=none

dook
25th Mar 2019, 20:33
Was it US Army Air Force ?

nvubu
25th Mar 2019, 20:57
Yes...………………...

JENKINS
25th Mar 2019, 22:06
Assuming Khartoum to be not part of your North Africa, how about it? The building leaves one with a feeling of Imperial Air Routes.

broadreach
25th Mar 2019, 23:08
Just off the flight from Natal.

nvubu
26th Mar 2019, 07:28
I'd suggest leaving Africa altogether

dook
26th Mar 2019, 08:38
Italy/Med ?

nvubu
26th Mar 2019, 08:58
Not in Italy or the Med.

dook
26th Mar 2019, 10:02
Are we by any chance on an island ?

oldpax
26th Mar 2019, 10:39
Gulf area possibly Masirah?

nvubu
26th Mar 2019, 12:20
We are not on an Island, so that answers two questions in one go.

We are in a gulf area - that gives you a number of choices :ok:

The accommodation blocks
https://j1s0oa.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mHRYsqmRNyg5O-dsHyuRqLb70a0GucXACa2SjCgnkabLSBluXBxla6HfyCzaAIFf2T_Lamqs6I sDXNUIJtdCNu_3eSltCOXaJ9qFfvvXwTMV7WaZiFJKChVr5zjy_-qQO5Y-Kte2yWRrXLHzPp0ifO7xosM281xGK5vJniJVgybrTQD_DRZIEhMzzv2lHLPe-Zu-gBFu84TaHmYLRpxzEbQ?width=1024&height=711&cropmode=none

https://ktdbqg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m3Ew_5BE35z65nF0PqfRdZKt0dKDo_AhVJxVaEpBl1SX2mbcWWquxtVpcp r6C6ow-eSXpJKbCTO3Mw2auwMTgw7hfRx0nuLXQzeg9G8dM9uOPXfQvD7X2Qgj4lkCq fCcODXMJ-nKxU7td6clCIQ0A7Bn8xBoNHC-CLE8-lcY2Uck8NU3Uzgi1gyALlpBOrjzRw5awxqEEccfa_h6yy-c33Q?width=1024&height=758&cropmode=none

I've got one more photo - which has the name/number of a squadron based here. Do you want it now?

dook
26th Mar 2019, 12:25
"Gulf area" lists about forty choices but few are hot. :uhoh:

nvubu
26th Mar 2019, 12:30
If you look at a map of the Masirah and zoom out until you can view from India to Egypt, there are three named "Gulfs" in view. This airfield is in the area of one of these three.

Once you know which one, I'd imagine the forty choices should reduce in number.

dook
26th Mar 2019, 12:32
They already have, looking at climate.

dook
26th Mar 2019, 12:38
Possible candidates are the Gulf of Aden and the Gulf of Oman.

nvubu
26th Mar 2019, 12:43
Yes, it isn't in the Persian Gulf.

I won't say which of the other two it is, but this may (or may not) help.

https://anukwa.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mGXkoP8SVm9wk-yg3U74MNg8Q9my2yV29u-yb-MNFYhN3FkOevckT2u97bjBYjFKql49TaWNAQzHWprB4P-zm2kjv7Hp3WPyeqTfXRlMTvzqETkbDliaBaKo8z7Z9cVEs8TqzJCmao4BAlN wHGm1sfma-PosoZHHK3Sw3MUEIiLbVbHUzwE04nLJuKQgdprta8ztnxrmxtODIaPNx53Nc Cw?width=1024&height=765&cropmode=none

dook
26th Mar 2019, 12:47
I can't believe in WW2 that the USAAF had a base in Yemen or Somalia but it might have been Iran.

dook
26th Mar 2019, 12:56
Was it Wadi Seidna ?

nvubu
26th Mar 2019, 13:12
It isn't in Africa, so Wadi Seidna is out.

If you were in the RAF in the early 1960s, and were posted to this country, you may well have gone gliding at this location.

JENKINS
26th Mar 2019, 14:29
Are you hinting at Sheik Othman?

dook
26th Mar 2019, 14:44
The only gliding I can think of is Aden Services Gliding Club, and I don't think it's there.

nvubu
26th Mar 2019, 15:17
Yes Jenkins I am, as it is Sheik Othman in Aden, over to you.

dook - beaten to it by 15 minutes.

It looks like there is a small amount of runway remaining - Bing maps shows this much clearer than GE.

The gliding reference came from here.
https://youtu.be/64GHYoaaloU

JENKINS
26th Mar 2019, 16:29
Thanks, not been there since 1956, visiting parents from school. There is one within this chapel, albeit not this chapel, Argosy and Belfast pilot, who writes occasionally about the Gliding Club. I gather there had been a Transit Centre at Sheikh Othman in WW2.

OH I regret.

dook
26th Mar 2019, 16:40
Can't have an OH.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2a76fso.jpg

kenparry
26th Mar 2019, 16:48
Alaska?




…........

nvubu
26th Mar 2019, 16:57
Aleutians?

dook
26th Mar 2019, 17:06
You're both getting there.

JENKINS
26th Mar 2019, 18:58
Limited view of terrain may indicate Adak which I have noted in the past.

dook
26th Mar 2019, 19:20
I had to look that up and it isn't.

kenparry
26th Mar 2019, 19:34
Amchitka AFB?

dook
26th Mar 2019, 19:54
I'm afraid not.

Self loading bear
26th Mar 2019, 21:21
Marauder of 28th Combined Group.
Alexai Point Army Airfield, Attu Island, AK

dook
26th Mar 2019, 21:25
Alexai Point it is. :ok:

You have not put one up for a while so off you go.

Self loading bear
26th Mar 2019, 21:33
Thanks I have saved this one to ponder over tomorrow.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/899x486/62b49fb4_bf23_4299_aca7_ee2620003507_8f4a2e9562628b96121fcaa f4f66295b47b7aae7.jpeg

kenparry
26th Mar 2019, 22:24
Tenerife North - Los Rodeos if you prefer.

Self loading bear
26th Mar 2019, 22:31
Kenparry, very well done.
Tomorrow 42 years ago 583 lives were lost on this runway.
Something to think about.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x450/2ae9b413_8308_457c_a2e6_21e0c472dc23_7050a58f6155f4f69599047 688b69ea07868dbd0.jpeg
SLB

kenparry
26th Mar 2019, 23:05
Yes; I flew there several times after that, before Tenerife South opened.

Next challenge tomorrow morning UK time.

kenparry
27th Mar 2019, 07:11
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/660x480/003_858dc7224376f81a1c822c138b7b0060310b828e.jpg
WW2 layout here. It is still active but much changed.
With apologies for the overnight wait, here is the next.

nvubu
27th Mar 2019, 08:58
USA? . . .

dook
27th Mar 2019, 09:51
And are we looking west ?

kenparry
27th Mar 2019, 10:11
nvubu: yes

Dook: west of where?

dook
27th Mar 2019, 10:32
West as in geographical direction.

kenparry
27th Mar 2019, 11:01
If you mean a Western state of the USA: no

dook
27th Mar 2019, 11:07
I mean a direction of 270 degrees for the orientation of the image.

kenparry
27th Mar 2019, 11:33
dook, sorry, I misread you. The top of the picture points about 020 deg true. But you got a freebie with "not in the Western USA"!!

dook
27th Mar 2019, 12:36
All freebies graciously accepted but it's a big country.

Kentucky ?

kenparry
27th Mar 2019, 14:04
No, not Kentucky

positiverate20
27th Mar 2019, 15:00
Boston Logan?

kenparry
27th Mar 2019, 15:09
No, many miles South of BOS

dook
27th Mar 2019, 15:46
I've been looking at the lake.

South Carolina ?

kenparry
27th Mar 2019, 15:52
dook, you are still north of the photo

dook
27th Mar 2019, 15:56
Thank you.

We could be in northern Florida. Palm Beach County Park possibly. Otherwise known as Lantana.

kenparry
27th Mar 2019, 16:36
dook has it - well done.

dook
27th Mar 2019, 17:15
Thank you kp.

http://i68.tinypic.com/rwnng5.jpg

chevvron
27th Mar 2019, 18:36
Habbaniya??

dook
27th Mar 2019, 18:49
Good evening chevron.

We are not in the Middle East.

oldpax
28th Mar 2019, 01:39
lots of vehicles!Somewhere in Texas?

kaikohe76
28th Mar 2019, 02:09
No an early Oshkosh is it? Now Wittman Regional Airport (Wisconsin) I believe.

broadreach
28th Mar 2019, 10:11
1930s Naval Air Station somewhere in USA on visitors' day. But where?

dook
28th Mar 2019, 10:17
All incorrect.

A civilian airport in its' very early days.

Not Texas but oldpax is the closest.

oldpax
28th Mar 2019, 11:19
Cecil field Florida?

dook
28th Mar 2019, 11:31
A good guess oldpax, but you need to go west.

dook
28th Mar 2019, 12:54
oldpax first suggested Texas.

The state in the challenge does have a border with Mexico.

kenparry
28th Mar 2019, 13:53
San Diego? (Lindbergh Field)

dook
28th Mar 2019, 14:03
Not San Diego but you have now hit the correct state.

JENKINS
28th Mar 2019, 16:47
Army Day at Los Angeles, now LAX?

dook
28th Mar 2019, 16:57
LA it is, circa 1931.

Your service old chap.

India Four Two
28th Mar 2019, 17:17
Can someone ID the USAAC biplanes?

dook
28th Mar 2019, 17:29
I tried to before I posted it but couldn't.

I wondered if they were Stearmans.

India Four Two
28th Mar 2019, 17:50
Too big for Stearmans. I think they might be one of the Keystone biplanes. Note the slight sweepback.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x688/1024px_keystone_y1b_4_sn_30_281__762f4eb69f6712a348a4882f6eb e096539b40cbc.jpg

JENKINS
28th Mar 2019, 18:35
Thanks. In my search I noted at a California Training field some machines which may have been those at LAX, but the photo is now lost in the ether. One must note that the USA in 1931 deemed the Army to be the major setting for aerial activity, with the Naval Air Service rowing along behind. In those days the United Kingdom was lingering with its April Fools Day 1918 effort, with a Fleet Air Arm of the Royal Air Force attached. I note the very sad state of the Army Air Corps Memorial at Middle Wallop, barely established and already in mild distress.

Hey-ho, OH I regret on the 26th Anniversary of my becoming a civilian.

India Four Two
28th Mar 2019, 18:49
While trying to ID the biplanes, I discovered, much to my surprise, that the hangar in the foreground of dook's picture still exists, on the south side of LAX: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangar_One_(Los_Angeles,_California)


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/722x494/screen_shot_2019_03_28_at_12_35_05__fb377ba8bdb45cc92a6408a9 8188588724cc80bf.png

The ramp with the biplanes was where the ABX Air 767 is parked in this picture.

dook
28th Mar 2019, 19:13
I find it fascinating all the stuff we find on this thread.

Now - who has something ready ?

JENKINS
29th Mar 2019, 13:04
For my own OH, in the absence of alternatives, how about this former field? I have worked in the country, and frequently passed by this spot
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1546337325_0ff3ccf24c8976fa92cc7128ce0f791d8e 5bcd82.jpg

Self loading bear
29th Mar 2019, 18:18
In Germany they very fond of planting the energy leafs.

JENKINS
29th Mar 2019, 18:25
Sunshine not a particularly major feature in the weather of this country.

Self loading bear
29th Mar 2019, 19:43
Denmark then?

JENKINS
29th Mar 2019, 20:06
There are more things in Heaven and Earth, SLB than are dreamed of in your answer. No, I regret, with apologies to the Butcher from Stratford-on-Avon. Hover through the fog anf filthy air more likely if the poetic source is to be believed, but I fear an unkind assessment.

dook
29th Mar 2019, 20:49
Act 1 Scene 1....

Self loading bear
29th Mar 2019, 21:03
Macbeth
Scotland
near Dunsinane Hill
no Energy leaf but plastic covered vegetables.

But nothing found yet.

JENKINS
29th Mar 2019, 21:08
Yes, bit further East beyond B...y B....n. Keep looking.

JENKINS
29th Mar 2019, 21:12
SLB might consider the 25th May as relevant in seeking the operator of this field, seek it with a vengeance.

Self loading bear
29th Mar 2019, 21:21
Salmond’s Muir
Arbroath road
25th of May?
no idea

JENKINS
29th Mar 2019, 21:27
Karel Doorman?

JENKINS
29th Mar 2019, 21:29
Just waiting for an airfield name, very close.

JENKINS
29th Mar 2019, 21:36
Even the name of a bird would suffice. It's that time of year apparently in Holland, seek it out.

dook
29th Mar 2019, 21:59
I think it's called East Haven.

JENKINS
29th Mar 2019, 22:10
Indeed it was. HMS Vengeance, HMNLS Karel Doorman, and final existence as ARA Veintecinco de Mayo all pointing to a Naval Air Station, and HMS Peewit being the name of the bird as well as the Shore Establishment. In The Netherlands at this time of year, apparently, Peewit eggs are legally sought but not damaged.

WIWOL territory close to Leuchars and Barry Budden, with Jaguar territory not too far. You have control.

dook
29th Mar 2019, 22:17
It certainly was Jaguar country. I left one underground 17 miles NW of there in 1981.

Self loading bear
29th Mar 2019, 22:25
Clearly crossed with Dook’s post.
I would never have picked up the link with HMS Peewit
And the Karel was previously named Venerable.

Peewit eggs,
yes nowadays still sought but then marked with flags to protect the nests from agricultural maching.
This year record breaking early in February.

RAAF?
I still miss the link with the Veinticinco de Mayo

dook
29th Mar 2019, 22:25
My bedtime - back tomorrow.

http://i68.tinypic.com/27zhetu.jpg

dook
29th Mar 2019, 22:27
Not RAAF slb.

sycamore
29th Mar 2019, 22:47
SLB,the Argie barge....

chevvron
30th Mar 2019, 09:19
Perth/Scone and OH.

dook
30th Mar 2019, 09:53
Have a scotch and a scone chevvron.

We are at OH again.

oldpax
30th Mar 2019, 10:24
http://s9.tinypic.com/t9ibk8_th.jpg (left=http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=NuVqmzAy%2FKxoXjjzvodOC4h4l5k2TGxc)

Shackman
30th Mar 2019, 10:37
Sorry - old pax got in first so I'll withdraw the one I just posted (although I can't actually see oldpax's one).

Self loading bear
30th Mar 2019, 10:52
http://s9.tinypic.com/t9ibk8_th.jpg (left=http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=NuVqmzAy%2FKxoXjjzvodOC4h4l5k2TGxc)

Better visible when linked:
VC-10 (http://nl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=t9ibk8&s=9#.XJ9Jk6S0uEc)

kenparry
30th Mar 2019, 11:57
Bruntingthorpe?

dook
30th Mar 2019, 16:00
It's 2300 local time in Thailand so I think we might have to wait for oldpax to return.

However, I feel that kenparry is correct.

kenparry
30th Mar 2019, 16:14
Are you there, oldpax?

If not Brunty, then St Mawgan (or Newquay Airport if you prefer)

dook
30th Mar 2019, 16:38
I think it's K4 ZD241 which ended up at Bruntingthorpe.

Self loading bear
30th Mar 2019, 16:48
I think it is XR807 and I believe the correct answer is not yet given.

chevvron
30th Mar 2019, 16:55
Have a scotch and a scone chevvron.

We are at OH again.
Already on the gin and bitter lemon - bit early for a Spey Royal; I was intending to make a quip (spurred by the foregoing challenge) about comments falling on 'stoney ears' (Stone of Scone, get it?) but decided not to.

dook
30th Mar 2019, 17:52
SLB,

If you believe that the correct answer has not yet been given, what's your guess ?

JENKINS
30th Mar 2019, 18:17
Dare I consider Kemble, now known as Cotswold?

chevvron
30th Mar 2019, 18:46
Dare I consider Dunsfold?

dook
30th Mar 2019, 19:10
Since we're all shooting I'll be silly and say Fairford.

oldpax
31st Mar 2019, 01:03
Sorry for late reply ,had an early night!!JENKINS has it !It was at a display at Kemble c2014.Not many left in my photo collection!

JENKINS
31st Mar 2019, 09:10
Thanks. Much help from Holland in identifying the airframe, for then there popped up a photograph with the relevant ground equipment. The neatness of the blanks and covers indicated an 'in service' aircraft.

Bit late, OH I regret.

Shackman
31st Mar 2019, 09:52
I have a slightly different format for you this time - I don't know the answer. This was taken in 1970, somewhere over Malaysia between Butterworth and Singapore, and just to add to the mix it may be reversed (but not quite to the extent my last Butterworth challenge - taken on the same sortie - was. I look forward to the answer (and proof if available).


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/840x556/img_0024_9cf6ce62e6232dc30edffbafa36c6f209e16f417.jpg

Self loading bear
31st Mar 2019, 10:34
I think Tekah (Taiping) fits your bill.
I t is on your route and has still the roughly square shape with diagonal runway.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x533/e74b4016_f455_4062_98a1_7a8f2479af84_387eb5d0e85cd610b05e25e f1b7dc5b3372ffcad.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x1334/6a3539d1_4e26_4691_bf68_86ec2411c234_414245325653f2b54889f4d ce9a85c84eac64c40.png

dook
31st Mar 2019, 11:17
Since Shackman says he doesn't know the answer how are we to judge the answer ?

Consensus of opinion ?

Shackman
31st Mar 2019, 11:18
SLB - I think you are right (it is also my thinking) but although it has the roughly square shape I couldn't make the roads round the side fit the orientation of the main runway.. However, after flipping, turning and otherwise manipulating the image I have now made it fit - so score another one for the Bear. And thank you for giving me the answer.

Bear has control.

Self loading bear
31st Mar 2019, 12:22
Thank you Shackman,
Especially only the ends of the runway paved with an access road across one end were the confirmation for me.
Your photo is indeed mirrored.

The lower triangle on your photo is the now "develloped"/ruined area in the Northwest side.

Next challenge
This used to be a dry landing place.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1359x825/challenge_7_1_88e21004025d7cf35fb269879f5e77ef090847f2.jpg

SLB

dook
31st Mar 2019, 12:44
Anything to do with gliding ?

dook
31st Mar 2019, 13:03
Wasserkuppe ?

Self loading bear
31st Mar 2019, 13:10
Yes to gliding
no to Wasserkuppe

dook
31st Mar 2019, 13:34
I think it's about Lilienthal.

Fliegeberg, Berlin looks good.

Self loading bear
31st Mar 2019, 14:14
Dook scores again.

Otto’s Fliegeberg was probably the world’s very first private VSTOL airport.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x810/f451a6d3_040c_46d2_b94d_ae0e520b6f12_9926ad35981a9ad13b5abd8 e6a047096b3c28b24.jpeg


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x360/db3d468d_1d93_4ee6_9cdf_8ca6f63c7b4e_e79a330b8327ece3150204f 8054d1c57ec63f935.jpeg

I wonder if Otto would have ever managed to cross the pond?

SLB

JENKINS
31st Mar 2019, 15:56
Ellington Field?

dook
31st Mar 2019, 16:04
Having looked that up I'm afraid not.

kenparry
31st Mar 2019, 16:08
Looks like you have crossed the pond. Is this in the USA?

dook
31st Mar 2019, 16:09
USA indeed.

JENKINS
31st Mar 2019, 17:03
Another stab along the lines of my earlier, Beale AFB long ago?

kenparry
31st Mar 2019, 17:12
Looks to be civil, not mil?

dook
31st Mar 2019, 17:16
It was and is civil but I think the military used it for a while.

Self loading bear
31st Mar 2019, 17:28
From 100,000 ft maybe.

I was talking about Lilienthal, not Baumgartner
and I was talking about that pond not the Pond.
I measured in Google earth and from the top it is about 100m to the eind of the pond.
Otto managed to glide about 250 m from that 15 m hill so he would have kept his feet dry and have landed outside the park boundaries of today in any direction.
Quite good glide rate, but he could always choose head wind from his hill...

SLB

dook
31st Mar 2019, 17:35
Gentlemen,

I am withdrawing the challenge. The site from which I took the image appears to have made a mistake with location.

Apologies and therefore OPEN HOUSE.

Discorde
31st Mar 2019, 17:58
One of the earliest ski flights?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x821/wright_bba0a446f174998d826337e52814b7a1abf3808d.jpg

dook
31st Mar 2019, 18:27
Do I see a Wright Model R ?

JENKINS
1st Apr 2019, 09:09
The scene appears authentic, but I consider the date this morning may have some relevance.

dook
1st Apr 2019, 09:14
That's exactly what I concluded last night.

If so, then the thread has died and there's nothing further to do, and the OP hasn't come back.

Discorde
1st Apr 2019, 10:51
The photo dates from 1910. Google 'Paul Engelhard'.

dook
1st Apr 2019, 13:17
You certainly fooled us with that one - excellent.

St. Moritz probably, although strictly speaking it's not an aerodrome.

Discorde
1st Apr 2019, 14:19
Well done that man! Over to you.

dook
1st Apr 2019, 16:00
Thanks Discorde.

http://i68.tinypic.com/n3k7fd.jpg

kenparry
2nd Apr 2019, 10:21
Presumably not USA with the "01" runway designator: but are you W of the Atlantic?

(Everyone asleep? Brexit fatigue?)

dook
2nd Apr 2019, 10:58
Correct in that it is not the USA.

We are west of the anti-meridian.

kenparry
2nd Apr 2019, 11:05
I have looked at the non-US locations of surviving Connies and have not found one to match the photo, so I am guessing the aircraft no longer exists.

Latin America, perhaps?

sycamore
2nd Apr 2019, 11:05
Orzstralia...??

dook
2nd Apr 2019, 11:08
Yes cobber.

I can give you an overhead GE image if you wish.

JENKINS
2nd Apr 2019, 13:57
Olympic Torch aircraft at Darwin, 1956, en-route to Melbourne?

dook
2nd Apr 2019, 14:01
Not Northern Territory.

JENKINS
2nd Apr 2019, 14:03
In which case, Essendon itself?

dook
2nd Apr 2019, 14:22
Now you have gone too far SE.

kenparry
2nd Apr 2019, 21:31
dook, I think we need another clue. I have searched all the Wiki listed aviation museums, and Oz in a broad swathe from Darwin to Melbourne, without finding the target. Which State are you in?

dook
2nd Apr 2019, 21:34
It is in Queensland and is active.

During WW2 there were several USAAF units stationed here.

kenparry
2nd Apr 2019, 21:35
Ah. OK, thanks.

dook
2nd Apr 2019, 21:40
The Connie isn't there any more.

kenparry
2nd Apr 2019, 21:46
Looks like Charters Towers, QLD

If correct, will post something tomorrow AM

dook
2nd Apr 2019, 21:53
Bingo.

Charters Towers it is.

I am always open to questions when I have set a challenge but today has been very quiet.

Please take the thread.

kenparry
3rd Apr 2019, 06:41
dook, thanks for the tip. A good challenge. Next one coming up.

kenparry
3rd Apr 2019, 07:37
Finger trouble this morning. I have an image to post, but can't get the wretched thing to insert in a post. Don't know why - I have done it before.

To keep things rolling: OH.

KP

dook
3rd Apr 2019, 09:07
Oh dear. Try again.

nvubu
3rd Apr 2019, 12:30
kenparry. I've stopped using the insert image button as it has been very hit and miss with my images.

Instead I press the "Source" button and then paste the image link in between the image tags as below - I type the image tags in manually.

[img]paste link here[/ img]

There's no space between the / and the i, but I've had to enter them in this post otherwise it assumes it's the end of an image and removes the text :)

kenparry
3rd Apr 2019, 14:01
[img]https://www.pprune.org/g/picture/13385158

nvubu, thanks for the tip. I still seem to be doing something wrong. Can you see the linked image?

The "" disappears when I post...………….between the quotes it's supposed to be nvubu's brackets after "paste link here"

Think I will bang my head on the wall.

If anybody has an offering, please go ahead.