Which Aerodrome Mk III

[nvubu]

yes it is, although a bit run down these days.

[nvubu]

Another view

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20120912_b_zpsf86986a8.jpg

The circuit has held F1 races
Neither the aerodrome or the race track will be around in 4 years.

[Cows getting bigger]

Clube Esportivo Ultralve, Barra da Tijuca, Rio.

OH if correct.

[Gulfstreamaviator]

Bummer if overbuild in +4 years......lovely concept...

glf

ps I guessed Olympics was the reason, but still a shame.....

[nvubu]

Sorry about the delay in replaying.

CGB - thought you had it, but on checking the name and location, not quite. "Clube Esportivo" is correct, but it isn't for ultralights :D

You are the wrong side of the water.:ok:

Correction, I had the name as Clube Esportivo de Vôo, (22°58'54.77" S 43°23'37.87" W) on searching for Ultralights the results are showing across the water here 22°58'59.71" S 43°22'13.29" W - where there are two more airfields, however, on checking some of the photos from GE, it seems this location is also Clube Esportivo de Ultraleve. Therefore you got it.

Gulfstreamaviator - Rio 2016 is the reason.

Open House has been declared.

[cuefaye]

Here goes then

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a628/harrymate/upoti_zpsd39b0547.jpg

[cuefaye]

Clue - Hospital

[evansb]

Philippines ?

[Lordflasheart]

or Papua New Guinea ? LFH

[nvubu]

or even Africa ?

[cuefaye]

nvubu, that's more like it!

[nvubu]

Kalongo Hospital, Uganda?

[cuefaye]

Sorry, not that one; but getting a little closer. Go West

[nvubu]

Karolyn Kempton Memorial Christian Hospital/Hôpital Baptiste Biblique, Adeta, Togo.

[cuefaye]

Well done that man! OH

[nvubu]

Thank you, welcome to this great thread.

Where's this aerodrome?

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121003_A_zps47bfdb4f.jpg

It's not in Africa :)

[chevvron]

One of the wartime airfields on Iwo Jima?

[nvubu]

Not Iwo Jima. Here's another view.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121003_B_zps03730eed.jpg

[chevvron]

Not Iwo Jima, but you didn't say 'not South Pacific' so Guadalcanal?

[nvubu]

Not Guadalcanal, you are too far south and east

[chevvron]

C'mon fellas, I've got some clues out but I don't know that part of the globe.

[Lordflasheart]

Saipan ? - or at least ... in the Marianas ?? (I'm supposed to be working when it's daylight chevy - :)) LFH

edit replace tinian with saipan - either Kagman or the one at the north tip o't'island.

[cuefaye]

Peleliu Airfield, Palau?

[nvubu]

Peleliu Airfield, Palau?

That's the one cuefaye.

Here's an overhead from October 1944

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121003_E_zpsd64b7d69.jpg

You have control

[cuefaye]

Sorry for lateness - has to be OH

[asw22]

Hello everyone! I take advantage of OH...

Who will tell me what airfield this is?

http://imageshack.us/a/img233/1753/pprune2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/pprune2.jpg/)

JVM

[chevvron]

Sutton Bank?

[nvubu]

In France?

[asw22]

In France indeed...

[Flap40]

I can't find a name for the field but it sits just to the south of Menneville, Pas de Calais.

[nvubu]

For Flap40: Desvres Airfield. There's a photo of it under attack in 1941 at the IWM (http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205023060)

[asw22]

Congratulations! Flap40 was right...but Nvubu got the name! By the way how did you identify it? a memory of the (highly interesting thanks for the pointer!) IWM photo? the rather specific setup?
For your information on the IWM photo you may see two hangars side by side in a dark color (probably dark green) on the top left of the copse. Those were serving as "workhalle" for the III./JG3 based airfield and have survived to this day. This type I know of in only one another place (half surviving there..). A next time...
Nvubu, up to you!

JVM

[nvubu]

I pass control to Flap40 as I had no idea where the airfield was - apart from somewhere in France :ok:

[Flap40]

Since I did not get the name - Open House.

[cuefaye]

Here goes then

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a628/harrymate/upppo_zpsff674467.jpg

[nvubu]

Somewhere hot? Africa?

[cuefaye]

Not Africa! Can be hottish.

[aviate1138]

Could be Australian perhaps?

[cuefaye]

Perhaps it could be!

[Dora-9]

Tocumwal, NSW?

Some of those enormous hangars still exist!

If correct, OH.

[cuefaye]

Well done Dora. NSW/VIC border, near Newell highway. It was a USAAF base for a couple of years from 1940, then the RAAF had it from '42 to 1960. Fascinating history.

OH it is

[Noyade]

As it's open house, here's the next aerodrome challenge not on Mel's list...

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4337/photo063ba.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/photo063ba.jpg/)
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/175/photo066e.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/photo066e.jpg/)

[cuefaye]

Noyade

I reckon that the area marked on that wall map isn't the airfield, but some sort of irrigation water (can still be seen on Google Maps). Isn't Tocumwal Airport the old RAAF base (Google Maps shows the old hangars and runways there) - which, on that wall map, would be just to the right of that racecourse? Also seems to tie in with this - racecourse would be just off right of piccy, low-ish down, I thunk! But it's late here:zzz:

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a628/harrymate/tocumwal04_zps17cfd836.jpg

[500N]

Tocumwal Airport is where you described where you described it in relation to the Race Track. So on the RHS of the Newell Highway. I think a fair bit of gliding goes on there now.

[Noyade]

I reckon that the area marked on that wall map isn't the airfield

I'm sorry mate. It was open house, so I just posted the next aerodrome challenge. :)

[500N]

Noyade

Is that airfield in NSW as opposed to on the border of Vic / NSW ?

[Noyade]

Inland NSW mate, no borders involved. :)

[500N]

I thought it was.

Thanks

[Dora-9]

Noyade:

It's Narrandera NSW.

If correct, again OH.

BTW, in the last Tocumwal photo; the three upper hangars are extant, while the two on the bottom edge of the frame have gone. To be clear, Tocumwal IS in NSW, not Victoria!

[500N]

Narrandera Airport, NSW.

I thought I knew the photo and the town, just had
to work out which one.


Open House if correct,

[Noyade]

Well done gentlemen. :ok: The little town of Narrandera.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1015/photo068y.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/photo068y.jpg/)

Both gents have requested open house.

Cheers.

[500N]

I'll throw this one up for the time being.

The first hint is, the sea is significant in terms of the location and the airport.

I have other photos and hints which I'll add if needed.

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/500Nitro/Airfield3.jpg

[Duckbutt]

Mmm, given your location are we still in Australia?

[500N]

Yes we are.

[cuefaye]

In the Whitsundays vicinity?

[Duckbutt]

There is a hint of sea in the top left hand corner so is the land to the left actually a peninsular?

And if the sea is significant does that mean that as well as there being an obvious airfield, seaplanes operated in the lee of that peninsular?

[500N]

cuefaye

No, not the Whitsundays


Duckbutt

The sea is the black area (turns a browner colour the more you move to the right). The White is the sand under the sea (and the beach) and the white "tree root" looking area is where a creek comes into the sea - I'll let you guess what the "darker areas" are around the creek is)

You are correct is you assessment that some sea is at the very left of the photo
so yes, it is on a peninsula.

You are correct in your guess of why the sea is significant:ok:

[Duckbutt]

Presumably the darker areas around the creek are swamplands.

I'm struggling a bit here so wild guess - Palm Beach NSW?

[500N]

Duckbutt

Swamplands, yes and no, probably more like Mangroves.

You are doing well, keep going :ok:


Here are a couple of other clues

1. The airport now only has one runway

2. Here is a photo from 1942 (Date is significant, think Australia
and what happened in 1942).

3. It's not the most obvious answer in relation to No. 2 above.

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/500Nitro/Airfield1.jpg

[merlinxx]

Japanese bombing up in the North, so Darwin area ?

[500N]

A more modern photo showing the now single runway and
a better idea of the creek system.

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/500Nitro/Airfield4jpg.jpg

[500N]

Merlin

Correct on first part, not on second part - "Remember 3. It's not the most obvious answer in relation to No. 2 above."

[Duckbutt]

So that's either a crash or result of an attack. Given the date of 1942, probably the latter.

Darwin ruled out so how about Broome WA?

[500N]

Duckbutt

Well done, :D:ok:


To expand on the analysis by Duckbutt, Roebuck bay which is the sea area I was describing was used for Sea Planes, a few destroyed during the bombing raids with some significant parts of the wreckage still visible at low tide. (Not sure if Paspaley Pearls still lands it's Sea Planes at Broome).

Broome also has a large Japanese population because of the Pearl Diving Industry.


Take it away (unless you want to declare OH).

[Duckbutt]

Thanks, try this one:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz79bb.jpg

[500N]

Canada or Northern Europe / Scandinavia ?

[Duckbutt]

Not any of those, 500N.

[500N]

Greenland ?

[Duckbutt]

Sorry, no.

[evansb]

Chaiten, Chile ?

[Duckbutt]

Yes, the airport and town of Chaiten in Chile. Both currently abandoned due to landslides and ash caused by a nearby volcano.

Away you go Evansb.

[evansb]

Thank you. Good challenge, I didn't know about the volcano. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/IMG_jpg.jpg

[500N]

Again, something different - I like it !


Coastal Mediterranean ?

[evansb]

Yes, the Mediterranean.

[500N]

Sicily, just north of Marsala in the lagoon.

An old Sea plane base.

The two hangars are called "Nervi Hangars".


Open House if correct.

[Dora-9]

500N:

Going back to Broome for a bit, have you actually ever seen the flying boat wrecks that are in Roebuck Bay? I went to Broome on many occasions in the 60's, several times at very low tides and, despite looking really hard, I never saw any seaplane hulks. I don't doubt they're there, just the ability to ever see them could well be an urban myth.

Mind you, there were still a lot of items of interest on the aerodrome then; bits of Hudsons and a Liberator scattered about, plus many bullet holes in Horrie Miller's hangar.

[evansb]

500N is correct.:ok: It is the former Italian Naval waterdrome at Marsala, Trapani Province, Sicily.

As requested, it is OPEN HOUSE

[500N]

Dora

It was almost 30 years ago (early 80's) since I went there and I honestly can't remember seeing them. This is partly because I was on an expedition and did heaps of things that normal "tourists" wouldn't have access to.
The early 80's was the start of the big boom up there so Broome started to change from then on and lost it's "out of the way" feeling.

However, in looking up Google, I see these pictures and they don't look that old !
flying boat wreck broome - Google Search (http://www.google.com.au/search?q=flying+boat+wreck+broome&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6sxzUI22EaqviQfH54CICA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=949)


As you say, lots of interesting things to look at. I didn't know bullet holes still existed but I did know that their are plenty of bits and pieces of planes around the area.

Also, don't forget that at Broome you have one of the best sets of Dinosaur prints in the world. Not just from one animal but a few different dinosaurs !

broome dinosaur prints - Google Search (http://www.google.com.au/search?q=broome+dinosaur+prints&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Bs5zULGmFO2XiQfSpYFI&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=949)


Anyone else got any good stories from up north ?

[500N]

evansb

Thanks, that was a good challenge - well, for me anyway:O


Got any more ?

[Dora-9]

500N:

Impressive! Thanks for the link.

I had seen the Do 24 remains on the Eighty Mile Beach opposite Anna Plains though...

[500N]

Jesus, have you been to Anna Plains ?

One of the few.

The expedition I was on is an annual one to Broome, 80 mile beach and Port Headland to catch the waders before they set off to Siberia and other places.
Spent weeks riding a Tri Wheeler bike up and down 80 mile beach, catching fish, sharks etc etc.

It is a most inhospitable place and no wonder when the japs landed in WWII on a recky they decided the whole area was not good !

On an aeronautical theme, one year at Anna Plains their was a huge bush fire and it was all hands on deck. My father, a few others and the owner pushed the plane or planes they had from the hangar onto the front lawn of the house. At the end, the only things left were the house and the plane.

Anyway, we are digressing !!!

My apologise to everyone for the thread drift.

[India Four Two]

This won't last long (no doubt about the volcano in this picture, bri ;)):

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WAD1009.jpg

[500N]

Deleted by OP

[India Four Two]

Yes, New Plymouth with Mt. Egmont/Taranaki in the background.

JENKINS has control

[India Four Two]

Decent early morning coffee at the airport!

And the food is quite good too!

[nvubu]

I guess the part of the world this aerodrome is located is fairly obvious.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121010_A_zpsf51d17c8.jpg

[500N]

Buru Island, Dutch East Indies.


Open house if correct.


When I first saw the photo, I originally thought it was Guadalcanal
as it is very similar to another photo.

[nvubu]

Correct - October 15, 1944.

Open House as declared

[chevvron]

Parachute retarded bombs in 1944?

[500N]

You learn something new every day ! (I did).

Before that even. Here is a link to the photo I thought it was which
is dated 1942 which they say is the first use of para frag bombs.

US 5th Air Force "parafrag" bombs falling onto Japanese airfield70 Years Ago—Sept. 12, 1942: Battle of the Ridge begins: Marines fight off attacks on Guadalcanal. US 5th Air Force light bombers first use parachute fragmentation bombs (“parafrags”)—in Buna, New Guinea.https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2897051409756453527-6627286895908427726?l=sarahsundin.********.com

Sarah Sundin's Blog - Today in World War II History - September 12, 2012 03:00 (http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/2983811-today-in-world-war-ii-history)

[500N]

A few clues exist in the photo that are not immediately obvious at first look.

Plus my previous entry to this competition might give someone an idea
as to it's location as well.


http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc480/500Nitro/Airfield.jpg

[aviate1138]

Full of immigrants now? Looks like Aussie earth. RAAF Scherger - way up North.

[500N]

Well done.

:ok:

[aviate1138]

Thanks 500N and it is Open House

[aviate1138]

Found one lurking.......

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-10-11at175424.jpg

[evansb]

Are we looking for a waddy in a wadi ?

[nvubu]

I've found an even earlier reference to them - 1928 - here (http://homeofheroes.com/wings/part2/10_cheli.html) about half way down the page (turn your sound off before clicking the link :))

I've pasted the text so you can avoid the annoying music.

When Air Chief General Hap Arnold called George Kenney to Washington, D.C., in the spring of 1942 to ask him to transfer to Australia and fix the mess that was the Far East Air Force, Kenney made two special requests. One was for fifty P-38 fighter aircraft and pilots (including Lieutenant Bong) to fly them. The other was for a shipment of 3,000 parachute-fragmentation bombs. Kenney advised Arnold that if he was to assume command of the Pacific air operations, he wanted total air superiority--"air control so supreme that the birds have to wear Air Force insignia." This could only be achieved by the destruction of Japanese airplanes, either in the air or on the ground. The P-38s would knock them out of the air, the para-frag bombs would destroy them before they ever became airborne.

Para-frags were small small, ten-kilogram (23-pound), explosives that could be hand-thrown from aircraft to slowly descend to earth and explode on impact. They could be very quickly scattered across a wide area from a low-flying B-25 Mitchell or A-10 Boston, and would settle into the smallest opening behind the revetments enemy engineers had created to protect their planes while on the ground. Upon detonation they spewed out nearly 2,000 shards of white-hot metal to tear through wings and fuselages, rupture gas tanks and to set grounded planes on fire.

Five thousand of these para-frags had originally been manufactured in 1928 for shipment to Australia, but only 2,000 had been delivered. The 3,000 requested by General Kenney was the remainder of a weapon stockpile that more than a decade later, no one else seemed interested in. Ken's Men put them go great use with their innovative minds, coupled with the creative genius of an aircraft engineer the men of the Fifth Air Force called "Pappy."

[cuefaye]

aviate - France?

[500N]

aviate

An African bush strip ?

Somewhere on the African continent !

[aviate1138]

500N warm

Were this a WW2 aviation crossword clue.... hope this isn't too confusing......

3 across 'Insane and Cocky with it' 8 letters



It is 23:20 and the Malbec is reaching the parts tha...........

[500N]

No go for me.

You lost me on that one, was never any good at crosswords anyway !


Someone else might get it !


It reminds me of a bush strip a mate took a photo
of on coming into his Safari camp in Africa.

[evansb]

Tanzania ?

[aviate1138]

evansb - Tanzania is the country.......

500N - bush strip is the type

[500N]

aviate

So what are you wanting from here ?

A name ?

A location ?


or are you going to award it to evansb for getting the country right ?

[aviate1138]

The name of the strip is Madundas.

The WW2 crossword - Insane = mad, Cocky is after Cocky Dundas -
Group Captain Sir Hugh Spencer Lisle Dundas CBE DSO and Bar DFC, (1920 — 1995), nicknamed "Cocky", was a World War II fighter pilot in the Royal Air Force

I did mention the Malbec and I will avoid any obscure Tanzanian strips in future!

evansb Tanzania was more than enough to get you Control. :)

[500N]

aviate

Do you have something to do with Mission Aviation Fellowship, "Flying for life"
and providing remote medical services in Tanzania ?

Reason I ask is I found the original photo in the article as I was looking
to see exactly where Madundas was in relation to some Safari areas.

[aviate1138]

I do have a Doctorate of Divinity [ULCC Calif.] but have no connection with anything religious.

[evansb]

What heliport?
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/6238334776_07ff5b3675_b1.jpg

[nvubu]

I have had great experiences with MAF flying me all over Uganda when I had a contact to sort out Y2K computers. Although the pilot saying a prayer before taking off was a little disconcerting the first time it happened.

[aviate1138]

"Although the pilot saying a prayer before taking off was a little disconcerting the first time it happened."

Sudden prayers make God jump!

[seacue]

Checker station wagon, 1960 Chevrolet hardtop, VW bug.
USA State which did not issue front number plates
Appalachian "Mountains" Probably not New England.
Mid-sized state since only thee letters and three numbers on plates.
[Virginia doesn't have front plates, but now has 3 letters plus 4-digit numbers.]

Hmmmmm

[aerobelly]

A VW in the Appalachians? I'll try California. Late '60s judging by the Buick (?) on the right.

That helicopter looks like a civil version of the helicopters in the film Apollo 13 I watched last night, which makes it a Sikorsky S-61N, and as the letters on the side are SFO, it's one of those operated by San Francisco and Oakland Helicopter Airlines.

But the photo really doesn't look like KSFO or KOAK. So where else did SF&OHA serve?



'b

[evansb]

It is California, in the late sixties. Good eye for the automobiles. Note the Checker Marathon Aerobus.


A VW in the Appalachians? Don't forget Volkswagen had an assembly plant in Westmoreland, Pennsylvania from 1978 to 1988. I'm way, way off thread...

[aerobelly]

How about Lafayette?

"1965
The year started with a decision the board of directors was soon to regret. It happened this way.

SFO Helicopters was engaged in the business of transporting passengers from various outlying areas to Bay Area airports. A stop in central Contra Costa had long been desired, and a suitable location was found just east of Lafayette's Hillside Motel. The necessary public hearing was scheduled.

In fairness to the LIA directors it should be explained that the matter was considered at the end of a long and busy evening. Several individuals pointed out the convenience of "copter" service. The noise factor was discussed, but since the normal flight path was to be over the nearby reservoir, no great problem was anticipated.

As instructed, the board's representative supported the application at the planning commission hearing, and the permit was subsequently granted by the board of supervisors. It was soon apparent that a "monster" had been created. The FAA-approved flight path was over the downtown area and close to residential Dolores Drive and Via Roble, whose residents were practically blasted out of their homes.

The Association promptly registered its disapproval and worked hard to get the offensive operation moved, but this took a considerable period of time.*

*In July 1966 the board of supervisors decreed a two-year phase-out. This initiated a desperate search for another suitable location. None could be found, however, and following the last flights to Lafayette on July 19, 1968, the operation moved to Buchanan Field. This was by no means as convenient for Central County users, so patronage declined below the level required for continued operation. SFO Helicopters ultimately went out of business, to the great regret of many regular air travelers."



Even further off-thread :- In 1977 I bought a new VW Scirocco in New Jersey. But after looking at the Westmoreland quality when I wanted to replace it 3 years later I went for a Made-in-Germany Audi.


'b

[seacue]

I had a VW bug n the late 1950s ... and I live in Maryland (east coast). My German-made model was before the large back window, but after the split back window. I Giggled Chevy model images and that is a 1960 Chevy.

OK on California. But those car license plates don't seem to have enough combinations to handle all the cars in California unless they reissued old numbers as soon as a car was scrapped..

The 'copter seems to be landing on a school's sports field.

[evansb]

aerobelly is correct.:ok: The beautiful community of Lafayette, California.
You have control.

[aerobelly]

Thank you evansb.

Here's the next challenge.
IMG_0656 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54731504@N04/8081138930/)


'b

[albatross]

Akron Ohio - open house if correct.

[aerobelly]

That was quick! Albatross is correct, and has declared OH.


'b

[LFT]

How about this one -

http://imageshack.us/a/img59/6336/107yr.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/107yr.jpg/)

[LFT]

It's Military (Army).

[cuefaye]

Are you sure that it's solely that?

[LFT]

No, I don't think it's 'solely that.' Clues on request.

[aerobelly]

It's a very odd peri-track. In fact I've been looking for car test tracks with internal runway. Few hangers or other infrastructure obvious either. Very private I'd say. It does remind me of Brooklands from a much earlier era.


'b

[cuefaye]

Are the buildings/industrial complexes below the 'airfield' connected to it in any respect?

[500N]

It is in the UK ?

Any other clues ?

[LFT]

The buildings below aren't associated with the airfield but the ones top left are.

[LFT]

Not in the UK but the area adjacent sounds like it could be.

[chevvron]

Brittany??

[LFT]

""Brittany??"

Bit further west.

[evansb]

Phillips Army Airfield, Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland, U.S.A. ?

[500N]

LFT

"""Brittany??"

Bit further west."


I'd love to hear your navigation instructions to a pilot or a driver
if a "bit further west" is half way across the world :O

.

[LFT]

Well done evansb, not an easy one :ok:

Here's another view taken heading north with most of the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in view -

http://imageshack.us/a/img694/9991/4325t.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/4325t.jpg/)

500N, apologies, but by 'a bit further west' I meant North America.

P.S. In my first pic there looks to be a widebody aircraft parked just adjacent the runway midpoint.

[evansb]

Thank you. Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/6847647407_7e703e228c1_zpse6a47ad5.jpg

[seacue]

Is this one also near Chesapeake Bay?

[evansb]

No. Aerodrome not in the U.S.A.

[500N]

Do you at least want to give us a country or area of a continent
to start with ?


I suppose if it is not the USA, it's a "little bit east" ?:O

[evansb]

A little bit north.

[chevvron]

Oi thinks 'e means Canadia

[500N]

"A little bit north."

"Oi thinks 'e means Canadia"



I think he has got LFT's desease :O

[aviate1138]

Lots of weird names associated with this 'resort'.

Tyendinaga Airport

Camp Mohawk

originally Deseronto Airport in the first world war.

A pal lives nearby.

[evansb]

aviate1138is correct. :ok: Well done. Your turn.


Here is a photo one one of Canada's earliest aerodromes:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3329356762_a896738677_o1_zpsf97c9a1a.jpg

[aviate1138]

evansb - thanks - that is one great picture!

Open House it is.

[one11]

Back to ground level and a memory of the days long gone when people seemed to quite like airports..................

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune230912ap_zpsed327999.jpg

[Gulfstreamaviator]

and then the earth cooled....

glf

[one11]

....and the airport is ? I reckon earlier than than 69 by the fashions and the AA Convair

[evansb]

Cleveland Hopkins ?

[sidtheesexist]

This has been my favourite thread on prune. However, the way the 'game' is currently played, is IMVHO, taking the fun and skill out of it.......I appreciate that I'm probably in a minority of one, but here goes (without any intention to cause personal offence). Firstly, shouldn't it be down to the person in 'control' to start posting clues, when he/she feels as though those guessing need a helping hand? Secondly, it seems at times as though we're playing the kiddies' 'yes/no' game. Is it Canada? Is it Botswana? etc etc. Finally, why do guessers feel the need to post their initial thoughts on geographical location, era, military or civil, favourite beer etc etc.? It takes most if not all, of the fun out of it. MODs your thoughts? Anyone share my views? If not, I'll crawl back into my box.

[500N]

It's a free world ! I can understand your point of view.

I did a quick look back over the "game" and from the early pages all the way through and people have been asking questions like "Botswana ?"Is it guessing or trying to refine the search area based on clues we have already gleaned from the photo ?

The other thing from my perspective, I don't ask for clues unless I have had a real good look at all of the clues in the photo first and used them to do some searching. Some clues you don't see at first ! Then if I am stuck I'll ask - No point in looking in Brittany if it is a "little bit west" in the USA :O

On the other hand, having the photo sit around for a week with no responses
gets a bit boring IMHO although I understand some people only log on once a week.


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[one11]

Not Cleveland Hopkins. Gulfstreamaviator may have it but needs to confirm which airport as i am not familiar with the Macy's connection

[Duckbutt]

I would guess at O'Hare, Chicago.

If that's correct and its also the one alluded to by Gulfstream aviator then he can have it.

[LFT]

Washington National/Reagan?

[one11]

Duckbutt has it subject to de-coding the Macy's reference. I would have thought any Chicago airport store at the time would have been Marshall Fields but as this thread is not "Which Department Store" lets not go there.

I reckon about 1959/60 from the extended version which adds an AA Boeing to the DC-6 & Convair as well as a Chicago Helicopter Airways S.58.

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune181012.jpg

[Duckbutt]

Perhaps Gulfstream Aviator's world has cooled too much so in the meantime:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz81.jpg

[chevvron]

An FAA 'crossbow' airfield (loadsa hangars) possibly Chedworth?

[Duckbutt]

Its not Chedworth, chevvron.

Edited to add its not FAA either.

[chevvron]

Rugged terrain and estuary in the background, how about Edzell?

[Duckbutt]

Sorry, not Edzell or that area.

[Duckbutt]

The photo was taken during an RAF attack.

[Oldpilot55]

Stavanger?

[Duckbutt]

Yes, Stavanger. All yours.

[Oldpilot55]

Blimey! I guessed right...lucky.
Open house, I am marooned on a ship and cannot provide a photo.

[one11]

Re-starting thread.....

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune211012.jpg

[merlinxx]

Well that's an RCAF C47 on the ramp, more thought applications ahead:ugh: Not Lahr, but looks European:confused:

[one11]

Yes, European.

[cuefaye]

Modern-ish tables & chairs, old aircraft. Mmm?

[merlinxx]

EHRD new viewing deck, but then again not :ugh: Confused & give up for now....
Thanks CanForce Movements for the great parties at Lahr back in the 60s/70s:ok:

[one11]

EHRD new viewing deck, but then again not Confused & give up for now....
Thanks CanForce Movements for the great parties at Lahr back in the 60s/70s

Right country

Modern-ish tables & chairs

Must have been ahead of its time

[evansb]

Given the markings on the Dakota, the photo was taken between 1965 and 1969.
Is the aerodrome still active ?

[one11]

Is the aerodrome still active ?


Yes but has had several changes of title.

[merlinxx]

Am back and thought, Eindhoven. Long time ago a visit to Phillips Flt Dept. If I'm still wrong, then what the heck, I'm still learning and this is fun.:ok:

[one11]

Not eindhoven but consider it a near miss

[one11]

All quiet for 24 hrs so , to get things moving. This airport is one of the few whose current title names cities in more then one country.

[asw22]

Could it be Laarbruch? There are some resemblances...however the clue you provided could let think about Bâle-Mulhouse...

JVM

[UV]

Deventer Teuge?

[UV]

Cx that.
Maastrict Aachen Airport. EHBK.
OH if correct

[one11]

Yes Maastricht-Aachen. Originally Beek, then Zuid Limberg then plain Maastricht before the marketing tie in with Aachen over the border.

Well done to UV who has declared open house

[nvubu]

I'd looked at Maastricht a couple of times, but thought it was too far from Eindhoven (in terms of the size of Holland) to be a near miss :ok:
As it is Open House - where's this?

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121023a_zps17d39cb5.jpg

[aviate1138]

Antonov country?

[nvubu]

Yes it is - he says after a quick google:D

[aviate1138]

At first I thought it was Poprad in Slovakia but I think it's Kharkov/Kharkiv in Ukraine.

[nvubu]

Your second thought is spot on, Kharkov/Kharkiv it is.

You have control.

[aviate1138]

Thanks nvubu and it is Open House....

Flew a 3 axis micro [CFM Shadow] in Slovakia in 1996 and local Air Traffic made us fly Below 300 metres to avoid the Mig 29s cavorting about! :)

[nvubu]

What's going on here? Oh yes, and where as well :ok:

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121026_a.jpg

[UV]

Hurricane damage to F16 static display aircraft at Texas National Air Guard, Houston.
OH if correct.

[nvubu]

Well that didn't last long.

Open House has been declared

[Mark 1]

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t50/alberym/Bits%20and%20bobs/mysteryfield.jpg

Something a little bit different......

[Oldpilot55]

Conover, south of Bakersville

[Mark 1]

Getting close (right state), but not Conover.

[nvubu]

As there has been no movement on this for 36 hours, can we confirm that the state is North Carolina as there are other Bakersvilles?

[India Four Two]

That desert looks like the far west to me, but there are no Bakersvilles out that way!


Mark 1, did you mis-read oldpilot55's response as Bakersfield?

[nvubu]

I couldn't find a desert in North Carolina - apart from this one (http://www.lib.unc.edu/blogs/ncm/index.php/2008/05/15/the-big-desert/) - which doesn't look like the desert in the photo.

[nacluv]

My first thought was that it is somewhere in NV.

Or CA, NM, AZ. But surely not NC!

[nvubu]

I reckon that I42 is correct, as there is a Conover south of Bakersfield in California, although co-incidentally, there is also a Conover South East of Bakersville in North Carolina :ok:

With this in mind, how about Flying S Ranch.

[evansb]

The "Chicken Strip" at Saline National Park, Death Valley, California ?

[Oldpilot55]

The Conover I was referring to is in California. The strip is very dry and dusty hence my wild guess.

[Oldpilot55]

http://flyingadventures.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/chicken-strip-large.jpg?w=600&h=450

It looks pretty close..windsock in its little white circle. White rocks marking the strip.

[Mark 1]

evansb has it. The "Chicken Strip" it is. Made for an entertaining landing in an RV-4!
Located in the Saline Valley in California between Owens Lake and Death Valley.
The strip is an alternative to a 4 hour off road drive to get to the hot springs.

Sorry for the delay. My WiFi was off line.

Oh, and I assumed you meant Conover near Frazier Park, CA (02CL)

Over to you!

[evansb]

Thanks Mark! Great challenge! Here is the next mystery airport:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD121028.jpg

[evansb]

Clue: The airport is a gateway to superb ocean fishing.

[India Four Two]

Very strange touch-down zone markings. Cuba?

[evansb]

Not Cuba, but Spanish speaking. Airport goes by two names.

[Duckbutt]

OK not Cuba but is it that general part of the world?

[evansb]

Generally yes. Latin America. The geographic name of the airport is misleading...

[Duckbutt]

How about Liberia Intl, Costa Rica?

[evansb]

Duckbutt is correct.:ok: Liberia International Airport in Guanacaste, 317 km NW of San Jose, Coasta Rica. The airport is also known as Daniel Oduber International Airport. Named after former Costa Rican President Daniel Oduber Quiros, 1974-78.

Your turn.

[Duckbutt]

Thanks, took a bit of work with GE that one. Try this:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz82.jpg

[twochai]

Looks vaguely like a Jugoslav Air Force reception of a squadron of mothballed F-84's for Tito's new force. Could it be Zadar, perhaps?

[aviate1138]

How about Italian, Brindisi perhaps?

[Duckbutt]

Brindisi seaplane base it is. As I understand it the cocooned F84's have just been unloaded from a US ship.

All yours Aviate.

[aviate1138]

Thanks Db.

Some way from the previous base and not so wet.

Sorry about the size and quality.......

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-10-31at155504.jpg

[descol]

that must be Gnoss field - Marin CA ?

[aviate1138]

descol - well done - you have Control.

[descol]

thanks aviate
try this one - apologies if it has been up before - nothing else at present

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/pprune31.jpg

[Lordflasheart]

Funchal, Madeira ? LFH

[descol]

yep - Funchal it is - over to you LFH

[Lordflasheart]

Thanks Descol, nice pic. For some reason I cant get into p-bucket. I'll try again later if youall can be patient for a while. LFH

[Lordflasheart]

Sorry chaps, new beta photobucket website and me are not getting on yet.(couldn't get in with IE8 - had to change to firefox)

Open House until I can get me 'ead rahnd it. LFH

[Lordflasheart]

Another try - using my open house and the old pb website


http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/LFHWAD016A.jpg?t=1351847195

Added - Ah - that's better. LFH

[Boss Raptor]

RAF Hal Far - Malta

if so open house

[Lordflasheart]

Halfar it is Boss R - Well done. Channel Air Division excursion in 1954.


But for calling it "RAF" we might have had you walking the plank** RNAS Halfar aka HMS Falcon - now an industrial estate.

** Sentence suspended on account of friendly fire. I see the HMS Vengeance Association website section on Halfar shows a 1945 photo of Halfar that looks rather more like Luqa. See here - falcon (http://www.hms-vengeance.co.uk/falcon.htm)

I will double check and take it up with them. FF is bad for morale.

Boss Raptor has declared Open House. LFH

[The SSK]

Haven't posted/played here for a long time.
Here's something which might cause a bit of entertainment as long as you stay away from Google images. I have a decent clue I can deploy if it gets stuck.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/TheSSK/Mirages.jpg

[The SSK]

Ah well, so much for entertainment.
I can't monitor this thread regularly from now on so I'll present my clue and bow out, it (the clue, not the aerodrome)is to be found in the recent pages of 'Where on earth?'

Failing that, stick the URL into Google Images.

Have a good weekend all.

The SSK

[evansb]

Is there anything notably historic or nostalgic about this airport? Just asking, no agenda, hidden or otherwise.

[chevvron]

You mean like Crazies Hill? (tongue in cheek!)

[evansb]

Where did it go? I initially thought it was Kill Devil Hills airport in North Carolina.
An historic site to be sure.

[nvubu]

The last few replies are going to be confusing for other readers :confused:

Which airfield is being dedicated/opened here?
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121104A-1.jpg

Here's the view the other way.
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121104E-1.jpg


I'll post a couple of images of the airfield in action if more clues are needed.

[albatross]

RAF Polebrook? 351st Bombardment group USAAF?
Open house if correct which I probably am not.

[chevvron]

Chelveston?

[nvubu]

It's not Polebrook or Chelveston.

[nvubu]

Here are some shots of the airfield in action

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121104B-1.jpg

and

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121104C-1.jpg

[Capot]

If only to eliminate it for others....wild shot..Stoney Cross?

[evansb]

RAF Nuthampstead, Hertfordshire, England ?

[nvubu]

RAF Nuthampstead, Hertfordshire, England

evansb

That's the one. Here's an overhead to compare with today

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121104D-1.jpg

Over to you evansb

[evansb]

Thank you. Lovely challenge, that was! Here is another mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD121104.jpg

[Duckbutt]

Just going back to Nuthampstead for a minute, especially at this time of year it doesn't do any harm to recall this well known story from there:

IT WAS A FORTRESS COMING HOME - They Could Hear It Before They Could See it - By Allen Ostrom (http://398th.org/History/Articles/Remembrances/Ostrom_FortressHome.html)

[Lordflasheart]

Busy little field ... supporting the Korean war ? ... somewhere in Japan ?

[albatross]

I'm thinking Berlin Airlift but in the USA.
There was an airfield where they did heavy maintenance on aircraft involved.
Not near my library at the moment but am I "warm"

[Krakatoa]

Only a guess, Tacoma

[MReyn24050]

The list has been updated today up to and including 4 November 2012.
Mel

[Lordflasheart]

If its Japan, I can't get the C-124As (no pimple) away from Tachikawa - the main USAF transport base in Japan - (other than Ashiya - which it ain't) during the Korean War. Its changed a lot and was considered short (only 4900ft) even then.

So my half guess is Tachikawa - near Tokyo.

Found this gruesome quote -

"According to a report by Major General Victor E. Bertrandias, Deputy Inspector General, Department of the Air Force, there were a total of 685 personnel, including 149 pilots, killed in transport accidents in 1951 and 1952. There were 107 cargo-type aircraft destroyed, resulting in a materiel loss of many millions of dollars.


The first airplane crash with over 100 fatalities involved a Douglas C-124A Globemaster carrying U.S. military personnel from Japan to Korea on June 18, 1953. The accident occurred approximately three miles from Tachikawa, Japan. Seven crew members and 122 passengers perished in the accident. There were no survivors."

See here -
Korean War Educator: Topics - Airplane Crashes - Globemaster, Japan (http://www.koreanwar-educator.org/topics/airplane_crashes/globemaster_japan/p_globemaster_jp.htm)


Thanks for the list update Mel. LFH

[evansb]

Lordflasheart is correct:ok:. Tachikawa Air base, Japan, Your turn.

[Lordflasheart]

Thankyou EvansB. You got an icy blast coming Friday/Saturday - High of Minus 12C :eek:. Hope you're all prepared.

More American planes - Navy style this time.


http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/LFHWAD15.jpg?t=1352240553

[chevvron]

Dunsfold??

[Lordflasheart]

Not Dunsfold, Chevy. Nice try, but Dunsfold's 'other runway angle off' is less than the mystery field. And 25 ain't the main. LFH

[evansb]

RNAS Culdrose, (HMS Seahawk), Cornwall, England ?



Re: Lethbridge WX: Yes, -16C is the low temperature forecast for Friday. I have snow tires on all four wheels, windshield washer is good to -35, and the engine block pre-heater is functional. I live in a land of temperature extremes. Due to the Chinook winds, Lethbridge can be Canada's hot spot one day, and one of the cooler cities the next.

[Krakatoa]

Ah yes, memories of Claresholm.

[Lordflasheart]

Spot on evansb. You have control.

Big swansong Skyraider Balbo in 1959. Though 849D flight did a full year embarked in 1960.

LFH

I have snow tires on all four wheels, windshield washer is good to -35, and the engine block pre-heater is functional.

Which reminds me I must toddle up the road and get a can of windscreen deicer spray - should last til New Year. :)

[evansb]

Thank you. Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD121107.jpg

[WE992]

Somewhere in France?