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dook
16th Aug 2019, 09:16
Morning Asturias.

You are getting warm.

Asturias56
16th Aug 2019, 09:32
well if it was going to be a new airport it has to be some distance from any current major airport as I don't think anyone is planning to close any of the current ones...

N or South of the River Po?

dook
16th Aug 2019, 09:56
South of the Po and almost exactly south of Ferrara.

Try Tuscany. :)

Asturias56
16th Aug 2019, 10:40
Aeroporto di Sienna.....................

My landlord would have a fit at describing it as "North Italy" - it's halfway to the Hell that is Rome in his book................

doubt it 'll ever get permission to expand TBH

dook
16th Aug 2019, 12:56
Apologies for the delay - I have been out for lunch.

Sienna it is and over to you.

Asturias56
16th Aug 2019, 14:31
Let's see...................... I noticed this a few weeks ago when traveling by - no longer used as an airfield I'm afraid

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/209x249/2019_08_16_114621_de9d2e29c6fff920b4d769c9ddeb5e31cd93bc2c.j pg

Self loading bear
16th Aug 2019, 16:30
Looks like the back of a Porsche Carrera
so probably not India?
I hope you have more clues or photos?

Asturias56
16th Aug 2019, 17:02
Hmm post didn't work try again.....................

Now nicely landscaped in places - lots of offices etc

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/313x179/2019_08_16_114747_eaf2cd90c20f4770a132c8982298a9a123720529.j pg

dook
16th Aug 2019, 17:10
That's not a clue mate - just a field of trees.

That hangar looks fairly big - airships ?

Self loading bear
16th Aug 2019, 17:21
Tough i think Northern Europe
Germany?

dook
16th Aug 2019, 17:48
I'm departing the fix until we get a usable clue.

Self loading bear
16th Aug 2019, 19:25
I'm departing the fix until we get a usable clue.

Come on,
On your challenge i searched for
worst photo ever of Control tower

zero hits

I hope to see you again after Asturian dinner time.

JENKINS
16th Aug 2019, 19:28
Wild guess at RNAS Culham, with perhaps a Mainhill hangar?

Self loading bear
16th Aug 2019, 19:37
I think Jenkins has a hit
building on the left of challenge photo is Biffa municipal
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/648x1127/15d2aec3_8292_43d7_b480_6b96853406c1_b5a0581adc598378d5db259 9466e501c7663112d.jpeg

dook
16th Aug 2019, 19:40
St. Merrin ?

Asturias56
16th Aug 2019, 20:38
Jenkins has it - Culham (RNAS Hornbill) it is

Lasted less than 5 hours so obviously not a real tough one............................

There were a load of other clues coming but people seem to want to get an answer immediately - I aim t make it tough

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/362x318/2019_08_16_175646_1c879fb88b1687470c7cdbad190e6e1f691d227b.j pg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/242x175/2019_08_16_115034_85df68700ae0230f5ea6d9b51fae679e0ca69fc8.j pg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/327x187/2019_08_16_114552_73d63686341efbd6b0c8fc48ea2173bc51599378.j pg

Self loading bear
16th Aug 2019, 20:46
You sure had me on the car.
That is probably a Toyota
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/754x373/8c6e4057_ceab_45a3_8c3a_d3611acbb9fe_49b7652bcc13f526a545c74 27e3dfd772e1bbf41.jpeg

JENKINS
16th Aug 2019, 20:51
Thanks, definite FAA feel about the building, and I am familiar with the Culham countryside. Now this, not much left.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1565986615_95d50b1428cfc842824d2ab41b9b34740e 101818.jpg

JENKINS
16th Aug 2019, 21:22
Bed time. A Spitfire field in WW2.

chevvron
17th Aug 2019, 05:43
Mount Farm - USAAF Spitfires?

JENKINS
17th Aug 2019, 08:00
Very fast, good morning. Yes, that is the farm itself. Was not aware of Glenn Miller connection, last performance was here. Newly built village on domestic site is Berinsfield, Berin after local patron saint and field as a reference to USAAF airfield naming.

And very close to Culham, the previous effort. All yours.

chevvron
17th Aug 2019, 10:11
Open House

dook
17th Aug 2019, 10:23
Ah ha - always.....


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/350x327/up_sleeve_ccacb47e40ea594cb4e7332a01d661af05df7339.jpg

Flap40
17th Aug 2019, 10:38
I think that's Schiphol.

dook
17th Aug 2019, 10:43
It isn't a challenge.

Just a hint to always keep something up ones' sleeve.

Flap40
17th Aug 2019, 10:44
;)I know ;)

dook
17th Aug 2019, 10:50
..……...:)...

dook
17th Aug 2019, 13:18
A quiet Saturday.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/680x434/saturday_a7a0e705e63c137cd328a8c7f6a8f0c0a91f281e.jpg

Self loading bear
17th Aug 2019, 13:27
Former East Germany?
I think i saw this one lately while searching for the Erfuhrt challenge...

dook
17th Aug 2019, 13:39
You might have seen something similar but it's not in the former DDR.

chevvron
17th Aug 2019, 15:19
Certain similarities to Croydon.

dook
17th Aug 2019, 15:28
That's because it is Croydon.

Nicely done. :ok:

chevvron
17th Aug 2019, 18:13
I really wasn't expecting that; Open House.
It was the terminal building and hangars that did it; instead of being parallel to Purley Way they're at a slight angle.

dook
17th Aug 2019, 18:31
OH ?...………..:{

chevvron
17th Aug 2019, 18:34
OH ?...………..:{
First line , last two words.

dook
17th Aug 2019, 18:49
Yes, I know.

Self loading bear
17th Aug 2019, 18:54
Chevron’s sweater:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x801/937660f5_59b3_4ad7_902e_bdbfb22d78d2_4bff56ae370949b26adb669 64c69a5164d774b02.jpeg


Clearly no airports in his sleeves

dook
17th Aug 2019, 19:16
……….:D......

chevvron
18th Aug 2019, 03:28
I don't use Microsoft, ony Chrome, got several I'd like to post but can't.

dook
18th Aug 2019, 07:05
If I PM you my e-mail address you may care to send one to me and I'll post it on your behalf.

Self loading bear
18th Aug 2019, 09:58
To fill the Open House for the moment.
(i propose dook inserts Chevrons photos at the next OH)

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1132x614/104defdf_616e_4df4_bd9e_a192317ff69c_07abac4b95afed00362a6df 253bfcf16d4367c4a.jpeg

dook
18th Aug 2019, 10:01
I will if he comes back to me and agrees.

dook
18th Aug 2019, 10:29
Is that a French Neptune ?

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 10:33
At Lorient?

Self loading bear
18th Aug 2019, 10:34
Seems so
photos are of 1970

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1078x614/50ca57ed_2618_4497_836e_a8dc7bf32d5c_662df1c5421762f57ab5877 f3fcaee45ca9b2dcd.jpeg

Self loading bear
18th Aug 2019, 10:35
Lorient indeed
Jenkins has the lead

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 10:43
Thanks. Last French Navy Neptune seen by moi was in 1990, a long way from Lorient. Always thought it to be a good looked.

OH for now please.

dook
18th Aug 2019, 11:48
Nothing from chevvron.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x257/sunday_2__8200eac7bc8de736e8f8f021d4bf298857dd59b7.jpg

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 12:18
Schonwalde?

dook
18th Aug 2019, 12:32
I'm afraid not.

This airfield was not taken over by the Soviets.

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 15:11
Assuming WW2 Luftwaffe, built pre-war. Lovely buildings! Guesswork so far, mostly, so how about Jever? Plenty of trees.

dook
18th Aug 2019, 15:55
It is much further south than that.

In use in WW1 and in the twenties became civilian, before reverting to Luftwaffe use in 1935.

US army 1945-7.

It was abandoned in the fifties and is now barely recognisable.

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 16:30
So, Bavaria with the American connection. From your description, Furth near Nurnberg sounds reasonable, and a large hangar certainly remains. Bit close to water, fog likely?

dook
18th Aug 2019, 16:33
As we used to say with the Jaguar:

"a bomb in a bucket".

Furth it is and you are clear for take-off. :ok:

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 16:44
Thanks. Local art gallery, now defunct, run by a Jaguar pilot who won prizes for his bucket efforts.

Lovely 1930's Luftwaffe buildings. Gutersloh lovely of course, when a fighter station. Now this, and yes, I have been there by air.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1566127362_430d45c41044f1b8cc8f6daa0a90cb6f4c ba90b0.jpg

dook
18th Aug 2019, 17:11
Ah - Gutersloh.

Chap had to drop it in near the weeds on 09.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x333/09_07ca54924bd2487b3379efd0c8b9bc0a1ced33fc.jpg

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 17:19
To my library of photos, lovely.

dook
18th Aug 2019, 18:11
Was the challenge an RAF relief landing ground ?

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 18:19
It was, and the name resonated with the local aristocracy.

dook
18th Aug 2019, 18:51
Prolly Nazi sympathisers then.

Was it a fighter command RLG?

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 19:46
Slow, sorry. Not Fighter Command, and aristocratic deviousness was long ago.

dook
18th Aug 2019, 20:15
Doesn't look large enough for bombers so maybe training, but distances are deceptive.

I'm also intrigued by the four white jobbers in a square.

Is it near a large country house or castle ?

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 20:22
Training, and a good 'spot.' Nearby big house long gone, nearby small town could be in many places, nearby university was once an Agricultural College.

Shackman
18th Aug 2019, 20:27
Chetwynd -(Shawbury/Ternhill RLG) even used by C-130's

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 20:31
That is the place, Chetwynd being a name, in the many, of the Earls of Shrewsbury.

Shackman
18th Aug 2019, 20:34
An acquainance of mine who lived in a house at the bottom of the picture was in the ATC (Air Training Corps) during the war, and used to fly whilst still a cadet as lookout/engineer/second pilot/dogsbody in Wellingtons and Stirlings and other twin/four engined aircraft from there during the war. As for Stirlings I was a bit sceptical but he was quite adamant and had a photo to prove it!

I believe it is also the longest 'serving' RLG in RAF service - continuous since 1941 and always as a training field.

Shackman
18th Aug 2019, 20:37
Sorry, not prepared so OH..

dook
18th Aug 2019, 20:37
J,

I can't add an attachment to a PM but I have another good photograph you might like.

If you're interested then stay online and I'll temporarily put it up here.

dook
18th Aug 2019, 20:38
Shackman,


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/350x327/up_sleeve_116ea9cdf936acacc0e9e7bcae235867d1ae0305.jpg

Shackman
18th Aug 2019, 20:42
I was waiting for that! Baden Powell had another phrase!

dook
18th Aug 2019, 20:44
…….:)……...

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 20:54
Lovely.....

dook
18th Aug 2019, 20:58
Standby.....

dook
18th Aug 2019, 21:00
For J.

Please post when you have downloaded it.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x414/sunrise_9cb94c9a4751d2e58487850fd4a3f24c55e4723b.jpg

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 21:11
Not clever enough with my machine, I find. Will try upstairs. Lovely image, I can smell the Avtur.

Still OH, or will you call this one?

dook
18th Aug 2019, 21:16
How did you save the Gutersloh one into your album ?

I don't think I'll call, even though I have eight ready.

JENKINS
18th Aug 2019, 21:34
I hadn't, but had intended. I think a session of study upstairs tomorrow will help, after I have done the ironing. Goodnight to all.

dook
19th Aug 2019, 09:21
Since we are still OH,


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/449x500/monday_81189d804a027a664836d72396912265cfbcae5c.jpg

sycamore
19th Aug 2019, 11:07
Island hopping...Pacific N/S of Eqtr...?

dook
19th Aug 2019, 11:09
Pacific, S of Equator.

Allan Lupton
19th Aug 2019, 16:32
Pacific, S of Equator.

PNG or further S?

dook
19th Aug 2019, 16:40
Good afternoon AL.

Not PNG but around the same latitude.

dook
19th Aug 2019, 19:28
A rare colour photo from 1944.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x231/blue_db7f21d297036e60bb3c9533f1e237991b30d2e3.jpg

sycamore
19th Aug 2019, 19:38
Still visible on GE...?

sycamore
19th Aug 2019, 19:52
Seghe on Mondomondo Is.....OH if correct

dook
19th Aug 2019, 20:10
Found at last.

Known as Seghe Point.

OH is called.

mgahan
20th Aug 2019, 02:47
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/919x920/which_airport_495cbe42df18a7889b55d07a0142770e5e5fead4.jpg

chimbu warrior
20th Aug 2019, 04:36
Funafuti (NGFU), Tuvalu.

OH.

mgahan
20th Aug 2019, 20:46
Picture taken last Saturday as the last of the PIF Leaders departed.

Interesting week with a usually very quiet runway in use up to 10 times a day. Hercs landing, then backing up to the apron, engines turning throughout the turnaround and then backing back to the threshold for departure. The apron is within the runway strip so the ATR in shot was an obstruction for both the RAAF VIP jet and a C130 movement just before it, as well as the Air Kiribati Dash 8. Here's another shot of the runway, taken on Friday during lunch at a local restaurant. Conversation was a little difficult with the engine noise throughout the meal.

Credit must go the the RAAF Movements team who managed the non commercial traffic throughout the week.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1227x920/which_airport1_8367b372b1c4d1a4a43e5ba292955fdde1c3fdad.jpg

Open house has been called. .

India Four Two
21st Aug 2019, 05:32
No palm trees here!

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x768/d6c72e57_7517_43e0_bb44_e94efec8cec9_578bb31c3474d9e8d3e1d17 0963dab9cf0722b97.jpeg

I’ve flown over this aerodrome but never landed here.

sycamore
21st Aug 2019, 11:52
Skidoo in place of a tuk-tuk at TUKTOYAKTUK,,,NWT. ...OH if correct....

India Four Two
21st Aug 2019, 13:48
Well done sycamore. Tuktoyaktuk/James Gruben Airport CYUB. Note that the terminal building is on piles to prevent melting of the permafrost.

Here are some of the clues I had lined up.

A pingo
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1276x744/dbc8daeb_91bd_4e1c_a535_51eca40b4a29_d329cb0d83d68f1a38d9887 53196f8236e1a5a33.jpeg

The DEW line station
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1600x900/0f7b7c34_689b_4fdb_b7e9_ba53e6e42a48_1bbb791eef721477c42aced 56a55f94aa914df93.jpeg

The town
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1256x746/456a76be_12ad_40ec_bbb8_169487257c89_96a1a5635abb0a5f1e51363 b2db687ad1d20fe69.jpeg

Just for fun
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/747x1057/82924264_a5f0_40af_bccf_43fb6897f04a_da4a5d1211d73db3f9822a2 06deeaec104176c75.jpeg

sycamore has declared Open House.

JENKINS
21st Aug 2019, 16:22
Please may I close the house with this?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1566309725_0e86fb62d44f655aee4c864c5b9061585d f10e9a.jpg

sycamore
21st Aug 2019, 19:25
Looks like another RLG....Wiltshire ,or E Anglia...?

JENKINS
21st Aug 2019, 19:35
No and No Sycamore.

JENKINS
21st Aug 2019, 20:18
Runway visible 2015, aircraft visible 2009.

sycamore
21st Aug 2019, 23:03
Ahhhh,the land of the `Wetwang Triangle`,where studes complained of pink or purple skies,compasses would rotate,roads disappeared,clocks went backwards/forwards,navigation mnemonics and checks were forgotten ,the "Dog was` suspended in flight`....Flight 19 had nothing like the `excuses` they produced on solo navexes..!! especially if one flew a `spotter `sortie and found a `furball ` going on...
Kirkbymoorside....Slingsby ....OH if correct

Interesting field 4nm 350*, had to do a C-310 skills test from there...commited from `brakes off....

chevvron
22nd Aug 2019, 07:30
Runway visible 2015, aircraft visible 2009.
ZoomEarth shows runway and aircraft in Oct 2011.

JENKINS
22nd Aug 2019, 08:46
Yes Sycamore, and good morning. A delightful, and interesting, reply. I think of the days of Basic Flying low-level sorties, I was always lost and often in that area. Things changed, of course, once I had given more thought to the AA Road Book.

OH

dook
22nd Aug 2019, 08:56
During my QFI tour at Linton, quite a few students had trouble with low level navigation in that area.

dook
23rd Aug 2019, 18:02
It's very quiet. Holidays probably.

Let's see if anyone is around.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/650x342/4_4c4d877d44135bbf52281715cbf99b41e64abc20.jpg

JENKINS
23rd Aug 2019, 20:06
I am, and immediate guess at Gatwick.

dook
23rd Aug 2019, 20:18
...….and a great guess at that.

Your runway.

JENKINS
23rd Aug 2019, 20:26
Thanks, too much instinct. Now start looking for this. I wonder if Kelly ended up here?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1566410040_9d4540b555fd334702d350c9a52f419448 75340c.jpg

sycamore
23rd Aug 2019, 20:33
ARSTRALIA....?

Self loading bear
23rd Aug 2019, 20:40
Probably not famous Dutch transgender Kelly van der Veer
She is now working in the Redlight district.

JENKINS
23rd Aug 2019, 20:49
Yes, Australia. Sycamore may be more familiar with Kelly.

dook
23rd Aug 2019, 21:08
Are we in Victoria ?

JENKINS
23rd Aug 2019, 21:13
Not Victoria. I came across it while researching an F4 pilot whose rise to prominence came with a tenuous link to a previous search.

dook
23rd Aug 2019, 21:16
I think that F4 pilot was in the Vietnam war.

JENKINS
23rd Aug 2019, 21:18
Not in Vietnam. First tourist RAF F4.

dook
23rd Aug 2019, 21:30
I might have stood a chance if he was a first tourist Jaguar or Lightning pilot. :(

JENKINS
23rd Aug 2019, 21:36
The rise to prominence was not via F4, and the individual settled in this area, good for his particular metier, after Cathay.

dook
23rd Aug 2019, 21:47
Crop spraying ?

JENKINS
23rd Aug 2019, 21:52
Don't know about that. Certainly GA, occasional Flying Doctor.

JENKINS
23rd Aug 2019, 22:01
Area is very agricultural, so there must be crop dusting. The name given to the major district reflects the efforts of an early administrator in Australia, and is a widespread name. The actual airfield name may come from Great Britain, where Kelly is relevant. The F4 pilot was a top-notch glider competitor.

At which point, I will peel off and head for bed.

JENKINS
23rd Aug 2019, 22:20
But not before some WIWOL relevance, since in 1978 one passed by, not too far away, en-route.

UV
24th Aug 2019, 01:22
That would be George Lee then. And the airfield he operated for gliding at Dalby, Queensland.
OH if correct.

JENKINS
24th Aug 2019, 07:51
George indeed. This is not his own field, which I believe is a few miles away, but it is Dalby Airfield itself, so I think you have the helm. Dalby also on Tem Mike, the IOM clue, thus Kelly and Peel. This Dalby is in the Darling Downs. David Cyster passed some miles to the North in his Tiger Moth epic.

Good morning, OH declared.

Self loading bear
24th Aug 2019, 08:34
Let’s see if my challenging skills have improved.

Recently in the aviation news but not in my geography knowledge so i had to Google:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/965x483/5b5421d1_a240_4866_b5dc_758d8cdcfc70_9f89b966be9748a3b802e5d 5ce3472903d0857d4.jpeg

dook
24th Aug 2019, 08:57
Goedemorgen Bear.

Was that news a drug bust in South America ?

Self loading bear
24th Aug 2019, 09:10
I think you are closer by replacing S by N and W by E

dook
24th Aug 2019, 09:18
"W by E" ?

What W did I mention ?

Unless you mean N as in hemisphere and in the E like India.

Self loading bear
24th Aug 2019, 10:53
See
you are getting there
but not as far E as India

Self loading bear
24th Aug 2019, 10:57
This is what they regard as the new terminal.
At least the mines have been cleared of the premises

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1142x510/9f5bb3d5_93b7_4761_a73f_39c77c54e8eb_ae053ef7e5aad2758339676 1c3f31d76b0aa7dd7.jpeg

dook
24th Aug 2019, 11:32
Anything to do with the war in Kosovo/Bosnia ?

Self loading bear
24th Aug 2019, 11:46
No

For longitude you must search about middle in between Bosnia and India.

dook
24th Aug 2019, 11:48
Maybe Turkey ?

dook
24th Aug 2019, 11:57
Sukhumi Airport, Abkhazia ?

Self loading bear
24th Aug 2019, 13:00
Sukhumi Airport, Abkhazia ?

Sukhumi it is.
Daily Flights are planned to be resumed.
State of terminal was assesed to see what is needed.
(What is not needed?)
The province of Abkhazia status still stays disputed,
bit apprarently there is a market again for Russian tourist to the Black Sea.
dook has control
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/985x537/921cd8e0_f188_4d1a_a5e9_542f8cad9278_aa05039976a71bb20b981f4 93b4c634f52d9f099.jpeg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/723x451/c7e7d14e_de36_48d0_90d6_ba5db2212d6e_114d1da92aa25ac3cd149a9 c711d8e66aa46ac97.jpeg

dook
24th Aug 2019, 13:11
My guardian angel is watching over me today !


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/650x408/sat_67456e4f1e0dcb62030550c491c438158eaf910c.jpg

JENKINS
24th Aug 2019, 14:00
First guess at Wellesbourne Mountford?

dook
24th Aug 2019, 14:45
Your first guess last time was great, but sadly not this time.

The RAF was never here.

chevvron
24th Aug 2019, 15:02
The RAF was never here.
Sod it; I wuz gonna say Odiham from the east.

dook
24th Aug 2019, 15:16
We are not in the UK.

JENKINS
24th Aug 2019, 19:06
Does that make it Ardmore?

dook
24th Aug 2019, 19:46
It most certainly does.

Brakes off....

JENKINS
24th Aug 2019, 20:03
Thanks, much family in New Zealand. Now this. I find that my impression of the history of this field is completely mistaken. I have driven on the road.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1566596005_28514237692c11b1810f19165acd262e31 a28d30.jpg

dook
25th Aug 2019, 09:38
……….

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/300x222/not_8e0d3287a42f69322d75edd7cdce9514679afdd4.png

sycamore
25th Aug 2019, 09:49
Simple...? you know with J,it`s going to be like unravelling DNA....
Are we in UK..? Is that a car-boot sale site at the top end...? USAF or RAF/RN...?

JENKINS
25th Aug 2019, 10:35
UK, maybe caravan or lorry storage, Royal Air Force.

Out now for an hour. Good morning.

kenparry
25th Aug 2019, 12:24
Was it a Thor base?

ExAscoteer
25th Aug 2019, 12:28
RAF Melton Mowbray. Ex Thor site, now the Defence Animal Centre.

OH if correct.

chevvron
25th Aug 2019, 12:28
Pie in the sky; mostly pig pies.
ie Melton Mowbray and OH.

Buqqer ex Ascoteer just pipped me!
I've driven along that road too.

JENKINS
25th Aug 2019, 12:48
Yes to last 3 answers. I gather that the dogs pre-date the airfield by a World War, when horses mattered. Didn't realise the Ferry nature of the field, thinking it was a training station like Margaret Harborough down the road.

OH declared, let's paint the town red.

dook
25th Aug 2019, 16:47
……….

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/314x350/red_a2fa9b02e74b6db1688b493b2c7efc4b3ec0aed4.jpg


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/594x500/where_5a0658f9b59e62c32886ae27785e687e204c52a2.jpg

JENKINS
25th Aug 2019, 17:44
Red Paint expression may have originated in Melton Mowbray.

ExAscoteer
25th Aug 2019, 18:02
UK Wartime airfield, possibly USAAC?

dook
25th Aug 2019, 18:10
No pies here.

Yes to the next question.

chevvron
25th Aug 2019, 20:23
Brize Norton before SAC got their hands on it?

dook
25th Aug 2019, 20:26
This airfield ceased flying operations shortly after WW2.

chevvron
26th Aug 2019, 00:15
This airfield ceased flying operations shortly after WW2.
Closest I can get is either Boxted or Chipping Ongar.

nvubu
26th Aug 2019, 07:48
Hethel.....
Flying continued from there until at least the 1980s
https://kyleecob.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/colin_chapman_lotus_esprit_s21.jpg

dook
26th Aug 2019, 08:36
That's a hit for nvubu.

I should have said military flying. Apologies.

nvubu
26th Aug 2019, 09:35
That's alright. I have a bit of an unfair advantage with Hethel as two of my current cars were built there.

While I'm waiting for this years holiday pictures to upload to my OneDrive, here's an airfield from a previous trip.

https://pyrsnw.bl.files.1drv.com/y4m1qyzJljS5i49V2g_ie2J578cFxkyiEgIDNy6O6WdNZxgETCgH-lDcaivN9_7qquC_TYKGl8o6tRhmEyDL7bx2YCv9OYXUwqS7LcPUxSqHN74SK htYX-vPINkzG3St-RTMaJd_n0v8Wf8nkkdxQxY3lsdpbaho5MmNyF44itQyYY9Rl4VXGyyRiUneK zKOg5j-2uaJs7cdec_skrzJJyAww?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none

dook
26th Aug 2019, 09:40
How many cars do you have ?

I once had a Lotus Cortina. Not exactly a wolf in sheeps' clothing with the distinctive green stripe and the badges.

Quick for its' day though.

nvubu
26th Aug 2019, 10:01
Here are my current two;
https://8bhalg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mUm5ZPK25JSrqG66nF8AI2-GQkj45to5y9WoQKOjkn3zP455kdOTDBBut00Ubrllru7bcrgKJauw7rGo2EM 73KaaQqH6XGnoblLNmquDCA2FcyWy-bWBg9ntauXpV5nhunDa2UZGf4SHtos6CB_6LhyHv5MTvu_3K2VFZ0-HIV8eefx2ZC9bb9omIy5NiZOtEltHKeRRp7yjs9a1iiUAjEQ?width=660&height=371&cropmode=none
Had my Esprit since 1987. Bought the Excel 4 years ago to travel with the family - use it two or three times a week. Got a couple of modern cars as well.

Lotus Cortina's are still quick.

dook
26th Aug 2019, 10:18
The ground in your challenge appears rather parched.

Am I correct in thinking we are not in the UK ?

nvubu
26th Aug 2019, 10:22
You are correct, this isn't in the UK.
https://xhcrla.bl.files.1drv.com/y4m-XflebQNTVclxF6VPSTE-bZESjnS7vHEZfBjesjq6olywx4WQv8Oxr1AJhOmddxjQuCgUtBqKjHOe6gho 4fMoLwZrhjsVfKVUgxmJUu3vwGvpiwmW7xW-dQllbI24s7BFB7B2xP-lL3tmaPSOpL0fqHfR_rNB7MMjr176E_vW8Vk9LiDSgziMPBJ0gIbSCpSlB0q U_F5dVbBXfTlJ8ck7w?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none

dook
26th Aug 2019, 11:10
Mmmm......Spain or the Balearics ?

nvubu
26th Aug 2019, 11:17
Neither of those

https://kcdctw.bl.files.1drv.com/y4mrUxyLJa80WCVm2PW7Bv5sIoMa3Qrhw_iFuMD9u439_r1KxhwvzoqXQCpi wvFKUXBhypoZF93HDE3UTLxKx6ugNNBSN_w7oJrgtLrAV9WcqYOtu4oWJs1m E2hs8Ag-wrBspMec7rtfWwhCvFk0fMEI5bzRSPQdb-vfq-XMyssIpLNi5WmgtIAeYc0pw0sjYa5_TZXk7taA-hmW-VLtmioYQ?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none

dook
26th Aug 2019, 11:37
Europe - maybe France then ?

dook
26th Aug 2019, 12:16
……….

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/250x233/auto_sergei_copy_4c8f9e32901b79d0de8cb5abae0edf2ffa91daa2.jp g

nvubu
26th Aug 2019, 12:56
Yes, this airfield is in France.

I like the fact that Google Image search has "Pages that include matching images" for my previous image - when it doesn't.

Rear of some of the hangars.
https://h2t4fw.bl.files.1drv.com/y4mTO9P0Akh54G6iBQEUMYUOtu13GRlO8HEQWAiwYmsIlg92sYSMokPTPMUG 2I8oX3mYSsFOc9g9tCQlZAaFMHvOxmEyfcekXP4aQy_AXDhW1kDJ6gCXa7fv _AEiPGhQ6ldQmP35yFUHXWlqRpAwxp33uRKcLGD7EIyb1IvSL4tXHqEFTHj2 Dv-2IwIvwwFtz1ifv2JYfTcPLVgvVaSvCJ-PQ?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none

dook
26th Aug 2019, 13:04
Google Image search only looks at pixilation and can be easily fooled.

All my challenges are taken from the internet.

sycamore
26th Aug 2019, 13:09
Northern France....?

dook
26th Aug 2019, 13:14
Suspect south.

nvubu
26th Aug 2019, 13:45
dook would suspect correctly.

https://vvthxa.bl.files.1drv.com/y4mNf_w5bhKDAemmYHgx74bpyBmVwN1yPMiN7UvcM91Zylh7Fn3F6D2Th_i-2wU6gzGi2yfTaaqSr5Ox3_z5h0XYbqYqVcPy6lDtfpdknRJgRBdIJ2A-UIazHFojMIpKDkoDc7J83KB19z4HQw88DO0uzI-6sYSmqCU287nyRnGYrHNNUkJHnBm2T_D-FZx1bTdTDEALsjyWvNcytQ11d7XAg?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none

dook
26th Aug 2019, 13:52
Blimey - if that's an air-conditioning system it must get hot there !

nvubu
26th Aug 2019, 14:01
On our drive down, the car was showing 39 degrees.

dook
26th Aug 2019, 14:27
Lezignan Corbiers ?

chevvron
26th Aug 2019, 14:31
Blimey - if that's an air-conditioning system it must get hot there !
Nah it's an attenuator for when you start the engine inside the hangar when it's too cold to do it outside.https://www.pprune.org/images/icons/46.gif

nvubu
26th Aug 2019, 14:51
And dook has it with Lezignan Corbiers.

We went there for the FlyZone

dook
26th Aug 2019, 14:56
Furthermore, I think that kit is for indoor skydiving not air conditioning.

dook
26th Aug 2019, 15:04
Wherssa this.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x363/bank_holiday_6cd4a639bef4aa1bc11b122c1ca98ae516c2d065.jpg

nvubu
26th Aug 2019, 15:14
The skydiving is in this building.
https://wmluzw.bl.files.1drv.com/y4mLqsznOsuY4yTWOBmLlKi2soOgww86eoU8R8Su-UmcdcZqvqU4RLwmcUEyOZiG2BhoTl29wpmJNxG4UbHZL_KfH7uUisWHS6Otp 0EPJ23VZjF1gpVSvST1ScXKPKUfibkAFNIlK3ZPr75LHfzIFR5JihRFYf7HT RWkXD90uaEZZ3eoiUrojvlqFrsrs9g_QAyxqD75LwV6NJOqkEpOjzmcw?wid th=660&height=371&cropmode=none

Your challenge - Warsaw Pact?

dook
26th Aug 2019, 15:47
Certainly is.

sycamore
26th Aug 2019, 17:03
DDR, CZ,or Pol.....?

dook
26th Aug 2019, 17:05
sycamore - PM shortly.

Poland.

sycamore
26th Aug 2019, 17:22
Kluczewo/Stargard.....former target...?...OH if correct...

dook
26th Aug 2019, 17:24
Bingo - Kluczewo.

I am too generous with clues methinks.

OH is in order.

JENKINS
27th Aug 2019, 09:01
Without takers from the Southern Hemisphere, how about this? Another with a local family name involved.

Lovely day ici, good morning.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1566852053_57a0a93d135e1d52ef6c519dd86ae66ef9 39eaed.jpg

dook
27th Aug 2019, 09:03
And good morning to you.

Three runways.

UK WW2 ex-RAF ?

JENKINS
27th Aug 2019, 09:17
Yes. Silly to have a common point for all the runways. Rather like having one runway for all one's transport aircraft.

chevvron
27th Aug 2019, 10:05
Yes. Silly to have a common point for all the runways.
Wartime thinking, according to a WW2 pilot (gliding instructor amongst other things) who I knew was that if you had a common intersection for all 3 runways, the enemy could bomb that intersection and knock out all 3 or them, hence it only occured very rarely.
Sorry I forgot, it's Hampstead Norris (aka Norreys) and OH. Out of shot to the left is the Compton VOR (CPT), the flat bit of green on the left is I believe a private airstrip; I've flown over it many times.

JENKINS
27th Aug 2019, 11:23
Yes, that's it. VOR obviously excluded from scene. Norreys, Earls of Abingdon. Anyone venture a guess at original cost? It can be found.

OH declared.

dook
27th Aug 2019, 11:27
The construction contract was for £233,000 in 1940.

JENKINS
27th Aug 2019, 11:40
By 'George,' that is correct.

ExAscoteer
27th Aug 2019, 11:40
Wartime thinking, according to a WW2 pilot (gliding instructor amongst other things) who I knew


Later in WW2 Hampstead Norris was a Glider ORTU (Operational and Refresher Training Unit). My father was there in mid/late Dec 1944 flying Horsas (having converted onto type at Brize in late Nov/early Dec 1944), before going to B Sqn GPR at Earls Colne in Jan 1945.

dook
27th Aug 2019, 11:53
All we need now is another challenge.

chevvron
27th Aug 2019, 12:12
Later in WW2 Hampstead Norris was a Glider ORTU (Operational and Refresher Training Unit). My father was there in mid/late Dec 1944 flying Horsas (having converted onto type at Brize in late Nov/early Dec 1944), before going to B Sqn GPR at Earls Colne in Jan 1945.
My instructor friend was at Brize. Taking off one day in a Horsa towed by a Whitley, the Whitley lost an engine just after takeoff and flipped over, dragging the Horsa with it; they didn't have time to release. My friend had an artificial leg and a steel plate in his face as a consequence.

ExAscoteer
27th Aug 2019, 12:58
My Father hated being towed by the Whitley - if it lost a donk you were on your own. He reckoned the Albermarle to be worse though.

As an aside I knew Jo Lancaster (who died recently) - Jo was a Test Pilot for AW after the war and reckoned they never made a halfway decent aircraft!

nvubu
27th Aug 2019, 12:59
Here's one specially for dook.

https://vz2exg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4miYtOzS7VEPaETzHm_0WPDK_0Saym_jGJtmtf51QokXpRHwlnYx7FxDb5D rjFKwMi371BWz5TTARyxKzahIwvQmIos0Z5Eo85Dhf4pzQY5gWuhHhEt7-EUeG65nwjHZekPkwIobVtT54JOAY-N5aperpBln5UckGl0shbXVpXliWXT8RLhNghx7ANAwrtpB_4tcGZ-xKqBAUi9I-Q5RoN_Q?width=1024&height=678&cropmode=none

I don't expect this to last a long time.

ExAscoteer
27th Aug 2019, 13:18
A Lotus Cortina.

Hethel perchance?

dook
27th Aug 2019, 13:21
I put Hethel up a couple of challenges ago.

Lotus Cortinas weren't built there.

The first assembly factory was at Cheshunt.

nvubu
27th Aug 2019, 13:26
The Hethel challenge and one of dook's replies to it have prompted this image, and it isn't Dagenham.

It is at an aerodrome, and there is an aircraft visible in the image.

dook
27th Aug 2019, 13:45
Might it be Charterhall ?

Allan Lupton
27th Aug 2019, 13:52
More likely Boreham

dook
27th Aug 2019, 13:57
And that, Mr. A.L. was to be my next shot.

JENKINS
27th Aug 2019, 14:31
Cannot link the Hethel replies. How about Kemble for this? Took a Lotus chairman to Hethel many years ago, I think 'mates rates' in the Compton Abbas Aztec. Decent lunch, interesting Vauxhall Carlton testing.

dook
27th Aug 2019, 14:39
I think the link was my post #16406 Lotus Cortina.

dook
27th Aug 2019, 14:48
How about Damyns Hall.

nvubu
27th Aug 2019, 15:32
Not in Scotland, not Boreham, Kemble or Damyns Hall - Posted due to your posting dook - bit of nostalgia :ok:

Bit more of the aircraft on view here.

https://wz1uja.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mJnr_xn1Fq2ztRk0wWcXG-9PAvQyB9w1In5kp5UsZbe3mEzIxtPXcbiXYAX_p5cSjl11k69ooW8mH8m3PT EAfWR4ZFpn-ql3MMmN7slpkt1poWOzTbYwLFysYDpUpojGd0U__M-_84ZACMgXryYdnpkzQTe62LlyiNVs6Vs28QR5thL4v5CTk1T42eI0Bjm5XDA pjN94GTMEn23sf-_-Hqg?width=1024&height=678&cropmode=none

JENKINS
27th Aug 2019, 16:02
My next guess was to be Bruntingthorpe, but is it any longer an airfield?

dook
27th Aug 2019, 16:15
I was going to say Bicester Lotus Drivers Club.

Or the Heritage Super Scramble.

nvubu
27th Aug 2019, 17:35
No, tis neither Bruntingthorpe or Bicester

Bit wider view
https://wp1vja.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mRAhpMv0pS0z0VA6lpys2NSPDTucFgxc2Cx_W36yJMgfGhLPdPbG5PsKWa mJsd1FirK6mvactklcOebLoZu5uAuLVStDA5O6NFllR-aeQyBcDTQ7IlYjabwWGRW0m_yxmqgTD5nZGsEVhG8nutDZ-6DZODl8zx1D9Z7RvcW4jrKKM9YRlG1j7MG7OcAenZBl33VzMm-AYZKKY-_tlM0tOlQ?width=1024&height=678&cropmode=none

ExAscoteer
27th Aug 2019, 18:22
Duxford maybe?

nvubu
27th Aug 2019, 18:28
Duxford it is - Spring Car Show 2014.

Over to you ExAscoteer.

ExAscoteer
27th Aug 2019, 18:36
I'm having problems posting from Firefox, so OH.

dook
27th Aug 2019, 18:48
Back from dinner.

Oi nvubu - I'm not going to tell you about the three-litre Capri which replaced the Cortina .

nvubu
27th Aug 2019, 18:56
When I have problems posing images I press the "Source" button above and then paste the link inbetween & tags. Works fine for me.
I only had a 1.6L Mk I Capri. No airfield photos though. I was going to post the Cortina photo as a reply to your previous, when I realised it had an aircraft visible behind it. I do have 4 more airfields with Lotus cars in them :)

dook
27th Aug 2019, 18:57
Oh no - don't do it...….!

dook
27th Aug 2019, 19:03
Somewhere I have a photo of self and missus in an American WW2 bomber with a part of the airfield in the windscreen.

chevvron
27th Aug 2019, 19:59
My next guess was to be Bruntingthorpe, but is it any longer an airfield?
It's still very much an airfield presently I believe full of ex RAF Tri Stars.
A few years ago their resident Victor was taken out for a 'fast taxy run' on the 10.000ft runway and 'inadvertantly' got airborne!!
Yeah I believe that don't you?

dook
27th Aug 2019, 20:09
Its also got a couple of very fast aeroplanes and a QRA shed in which I have spent many a night.

ExAscoteer
27th Aug 2019, 20:20
3 Litre Essex engine. I always reckoned the 2.8 Litre Cologne engine was better.

dook
27th Aug 2019, 20:36
But it wasn't around when I bought mine.

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 00:03
Good morning folks. Seeing as it's Open Hoose...
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x480/no_clues_here_i_m_afraid_640x480__773f42d57dbb2a1572ff45a43c 31024bc63a5eeb.jpg

chevvron
28th Aug 2019, 01:43
Martinique?

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 05:34
Hi Chevvron. No, nowhere quite as tropical as Martinique. This place is closer to the Arctic Circle than it is to the Equator. Photograph was taken on descent into the attic.
I will duck into PPRuNeland every now and again during the day to check on progress...

dook
28th Aug 2019, 07:49
Good morning jensdad.

Perhaps Canada ?

I note what seems to be the absence of a terminal building etc.

I see what might be aircraft shelters so looks military.

vulcanite
28th Aug 2019, 08:44
Caution: thread drift. Many years ago I too had a Mk 1 3 litre Capri. Went very well in a straight line, but didn't like corners or stopping. as a glutton for punishment I then had a Mk 2 Scimitar, also with aforesaid 3 litre Essex engine - same problems...

dook
28th Aug 2019, 08:47
More thread drift. I fitted mine with a Panhard rod which gave a marked improvement in handling.

chevvron
28th Aug 2019, 10:02
Caution: thread drift. Many years ago I too had a Mk 1 3 litre Capri. Went very well in a straight line, but didn't like corners or stopping. as a glutton for punishment I then had a Mk 2 Scimitar, also with aforesaid 3 litre Essex engine - same problems...
Years ago I tried to hire a Fiat 124 but when I arrived to collect it, there wasn't one available so initially they gave me a Crapi 1.6. The windows didn't wind up to the top of the door, there was a constant one inch gap at the top and when I opened the boot, there was a couple of inches of water in there (about 5,000 miles o the clock). I finally got my Fiat after a couple of days and apart from the superior build quality (although I realise now the body would have rotted away after about 5 years) was amazed at the superior performance of its 1.2 l engine over the 1.6 l Crapi.

dook
28th Aug 2019, 11:31
No luck with Canada.

Scandinavia ?

dook
28th Aug 2019, 12:20
I do not understand "descent into the attic".

Surely not the Attica peninsula..

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 12:30
It is indeed a military airfield that was photographed from an aircraft heading to Athens that had left cruising altitude :)

dook
28th Aug 2019, 12:32
Turkey maybe ?

The aeroplane does not seen that high.

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 12:37
Not Turkey I'm afraid.

dook
28th Aug 2019, 12:43
In Greece then ?

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 13:06
To use local parlance: Ναί :)

dook
28th Aug 2019, 13:22
It's not on any current list so it must be disused.

Suspect ex-US.

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 13:23
It was taken with a pretty standard pocket camera with a pretty decent built-in lens, so you're right in thinking we weren't all that high up. Not long before landing, to be fair. Might even have been seatbelts-on at that stage, but it was 2011 so can't exactly remember...

Hint: I think you might be missing the significance or meaning of one of my previously-given answers. You are so good at this stuff I can't make things easy :)

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 13:27
Sorry, I missed your previous comment as I was typing mine. Wikipedia tells me that it is still an active airfield, with possibly an active squadron or squadrons, but it's vague and might not have been updated recently, so I can't say with any certaintly I'm afraid. Popping out now for an hour or so. If nobody's got it on my return I might stop being so obtuse :)

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 13:29
In its admittedly-brief write up on this airfield, Wikipedia makes no mention of it being ex-US.

dook
28th Aug 2019, 13:46
I don't think I missed a meaning.

It can't be very far from Athens.

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 13:54
You're right. It's not actually in Attica but very close.

dook
28th Aug 2019, 14:08
You took the photo eight years ago.

I have found what might be it but it has been blurred/pixelated out in GE.

oxenos
28th Aug 2019, 15:04
Schimatari

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 16:35
dook and oxenos seem to be neck-and-neck. Who'll be first with the name of the airfield??

dook
28th Aug 2019, 16:38
I think he meant Tanagra.

oxenos
28th Aug 2019, 16:42
Indeed - I have found it named as both - it is LGTG

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 16:43
I was thinking of giving it to oxenos with 'Schimitari', but seeing as this is 'Which Aerodrome?' not 'What's the name of the town in the photo?' I'm going to have to give it to dook. Tanagra it is. Quite a well-known airfield: I remember seeing it named in Military Aircraft markings back in my spotting days.

dook
28th Aug 2019, 16:55
There is no way I am going to steal that from oxenos.

jensdad
28th Aug 2019, 17:03
I'll leave it up to your gentlemanly instincts, dook. You were the first to name the airfield so my competitive instincts would be to claim it (but that's just me :) )

dook
28th Aug 2019, 17:08
Thank you.

I will claim it if oxynos does not wish to or has nothing to post.

dook
28th Aug 2019, 17:18
He seems to have disappeared

dook
28th Aug 2019, 18:05
OK then...…


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x375/go_6eab7cb7501952486d2df4f7dcc93aa8035d9aaf.jpg

Self loading bear
28th Aug 2019, 19:00
USA?

It looks like a giant crashed flying wing

dook
28th Aug 2019, 19:15
It does doesn't it.

But it's not in the USA Bear.