Which Aerodrome Mk III

[nvubu]

Horsham St Faith it is, Here's another view (was my next image)
https://zbcuna.db.files.1drv.com/y4m8EsxHD9dYFp-Qawhi-VaIqjD5swqG0amJyS2l23qNIK_tSDaGfODz2y2plxmfa0-82CGZqqcfWItVYSgqj2fAMXqIFnffSaOrcgbHArZmFWeHaxfCyRnZyCq7cCF 9p-IZ596HbtWxdPWfpekvqrD_3Vog0oE4OOgIezOcRdqjCYG-P-dNrYKux3txg1QKNVoTmVypri0wgeTAHEQIwkQ1g?width=1018&height=966&cropmode=none

Over to you Jenkins - I see you have been posting challenges whilst I've been away. Look forward to your next one.

[dook]

I can't work out whether that's a TACAN or VOR navaid.

Unusual hangars so Europe other than UK ?

[dook]

Spain...……?

[kcockayne]

"The Boot" - Wellington ?

[dook]

I looked at Wellington and it looks nothing like that.

Is there another one ?

[nvubu]

RNZAF Base Ohakea

[dook]

Which is 84 miles great circle distance from Wellington !!

[kcockayne]

Which is 84 miles great circle distance from Wellington !!
And Ryanair don’t fly there ? ! Somewhere I do have some airfield photos - but God knows where exactly. I promise to find some; but for now, open house.

[nvubu]

It isn't Wellington though. I think Jenkins was saying that you were in the correct area.

One from my recent holidays - taken from the nearby road as I could only get a gate photograph, which gives it away.
https://lidgvw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mmnDXQu7k9uxdAEsaKZSdg6Vbotny7lgPHg3Pk2nhh3GNsv4a_Vjia_V9H DajiJlyETvcc_zXeq2jgtxuDxvpHO0ENkyLspCDNblawiShtyfmeKkhAoAqK aHVxejYrsEuWNJFCvcFRpfXrKeLZW1BZE_4bDyB9ACjEj7ZrzGdHeAMEqCMO O-6bkWSirRb_W_Yjip0wCa0vx72w72EGVTuJA?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Interestingly, my sat nav shows that the runway starts in one country and ends in another. Microsoft Maps (Windows 10) shows the same - as below.
https://pd0reg.db.files.1drv.com/y4mhd5KNL0xoZVmRhvaj6ER8DKL1zOtVEN2XTpDM1wU5qBxqlaemXCnm7jRR P0Ohg936JRLIiYxPjnvmfRlEx3f8wT3Tbj8JS3sZHmTDW64cqFXhoE-t44EcBhFr_UxTqqlLZyFWOLnezEoTu9mUOBU3zgdOnBdONMZf4miBBY2Ov_o gPEP765RHGn1irYT-qDxYbVAmDv51T5nAgTkjRUkSQ?width=1024&height=396&cropmode=none

However, in reality the border runs round the northern edge of the airfield.

[dook]

Since you could only get a gate shot, is the strip classified in any way ?

[nvubu]

It is military. In the current GM image the bushes aren't so high and there are three helicopters in view. On checking on GE it looks like those buildings to the north are a non military area - which I didn't know about when I stopped

The following might not make sense until you discover where it is,
The "country" to the north of the airfield isn't a "country", but isn't in the same country as where the photo was taken from.

[dook]

The "country" to the north of the airfield isn't a "country", but isn't in the same country as where the photo was taken from.

Do you speak Chinese as well ? :eek:

[sycamore]

Maybe Czech or Slovakia..?

[nvubu]

sycamore: too far north.
dook: :)

I only found out about the "country" to the north earlier this year, and decided that I must visit it during my recent holiday as it is a fairly (totally?) unique situation in Europe. Had a nice lunch there.

[dook]

You do get around.

[dook]

Perhaps we're looking at the border between Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina.

An obscure republic maybe.

[nvubu]

Not in the Balkans
The other "country" is not a republic

[dook]

If we're not in the Balkans we must be south of Greece.

[nvubu]

Wrong side of the Mediterranean.

[dook]

But the other side is mostly desert. I'm confused now.

[nvubu]

Go west young man, go west.

[sycamore]

San Marino-Borgo Maggiore...OH if correct...and a lat/long would help...

[nvubu]

I know what you are thinking, but it is further west.

The "country" is not a republic.

edit to add: and the airfield is in a republic.

[nvubu]

Jenkins - sort of - spelt differently for the "country" though.

[nvubu]

You've now gone too far west.

[dook]

Are we near Andorra ?

[nvubu]

Yes, close to Andorra, but is nothing to do with that country.

[dook]

We are 1.8 miles SE of Llivia.

[nvubu]

That took a while :ok:
Here's the gate photo.
https://wltcza.db.files.1drv.com/y4m9d1VgdOSKYmzMb_0sVeMCvn5KP8G6eo6QL7i1zC3N1OA41uLUUVkWQ3av R-L7kiVxZKnRNqZX1QGcAiVLcI4uz2jkPhZLuwk_dQ4RDf1IBOS2DMEYQc7kn5 bqQgemCsmZsUJUZV_ueDs8VtUhp0Ez5JlJ-n8S_EuR5WNLqqh4pj72wg9mIR-QvYsme_4M_nkfCOqh-BgWPruy9iiIuasTg?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none

Does my "Chinese" make sense now :)

Llivia has a very interesting history and has been part of Spain within France since 1659 and the Treaty of the Pyrenees. The location where this treaty was signed is 6 months French and 6 months Spanish. Very nice lunch as well.

I wrote earlier "it is a fairly (totally?) unique situation in Europe" - OK it isn't "totally" unique as I've discovered. There are a number of other enclaves in Europe where a bit of another country is totally surrounded by another European country. The daftest has to be BAARLE - Belgium in Netherlands - check this (http://www.thisotherworld.co.uk/baarle.html) site and the images of the town.

Did anyone here know about these anomalies? I didn't know about any of them.

Over to you dook

[India Four Two]

Great challenge, nvubu.

I had never heard about Llivia, which is ironic, considering I was aware of the shared history of Pheasant Island between San Sebastian and Bayonne, where the Treaty of the Pyrenees was signed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheasant_Island

[sycamore]

Bit of drift; mid-June 1971,as a TP at AAEE,FTE comes in and says we go to France tomorrow,so off to HR,jump on AF727 to Perpignan,jump into Renault16 and drive to Saillagouse,grass airfield,ALAT Training base for mountain flying..
CEV/Aerospatiale are conducting high altitude handling/landing tests on a prototype `Gazelle`,so spend next 2-3 days flying around Andorra/Spain/ Pyrenees doing high altitude t/o/landings.Also remember driving into Andorra one night to a bar,and then having to crawl back down again in thick cloud/fog.French say,tomorrow we go home`-au-revoir`,and disappear off to Marignane...So,back to Perpignan ,sorreeM`sur,no flights,all full,`c`est les vacances`-no flights only Paris on Monday...We`ll drive..change car to Peugeot cabriole as it`s very hot.drie across Massif,eating lots of cherries,plums, vino collapso,mix it with a French cycle race at some point and eventually arrive in Paris.Catch AF Caravelle home ,looking as dark as the cherries....
Just to the N of SGS is Font-Romeu,a large tower,covered in mirrors,for some kind of solar power station.,or was then..

Should really have recognised it...

[dook]

Things move a bit faster on the other site where I play.

http://i66.tinypic.com/4r2fco.jpg

[India Four Two]

Southwestern US?

Four minute response - is that quick enough? ;)

[dook]

Nice response, but no.

[dook]

We are not in North America.

[sycamore]

Middle East ,or Orztralia

[dook]

Neither, but Oz is in the correct hemisphere.

[nvubu]

South America?

[dook]

Not there either.

Now the search is getting narrow.

[dook]

Copper Belt is too far north.

[Cows getting bigger]

Well, I'm thinking Namibia or NW South Africa.

[dook]

The latter is very close.

[dook]

Blimey it's quiet.

Where is everyone !

[India Four Two]

Searching the deserts of southern Africa, I should think! :)

[dook]

I know the feeling.

May I be of more assistance ?

edit: it is in the lower part of the Northern Cape.

[Cows getting bigger]

Well, that took a bit of work but finally found through FACN @ OurAirports (http://ourairports.com/airports/FACN/)

FACN - Carnarvon

[dook]

Most of the challenges here take a bit of work, not to mention clues.

That hits the nail on the head and the thread is all yours.

[Cows getting bigger]

Thanks. Taken five days ago. This is on an island, but it isn't a State.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1884/29434747187_d97ebe4ab9_c.jpg

[10 DME ARC]

Delma UAE? OH if correct

[Cows getting bigger]

Dalma, but that's close enough! OH has been declared.

[dook]

Nothing to go on here. A clue might well be in order.

[sycamore]

SE Asia...VYETNAM

[dook]

It doesn't yet looked disused and I'm wondering if we are in the UK.

[Cows getting bigger]

That's Stanley, Falkland Islands. I've actually used 36. :ooh:

OH if Jenkins agrees with my assessment.

[ea200]

Try this one. Sorry for the poor quality but taken on a mobile while on the move. You are looking at the Northern (ish) threshhold.https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmforum.com-vbulletin/1045x695/pprune0918_99242d390e3b70c4da87f544e4a061932d5fe506.jpg

[India Four Two]

A question about Stanley. Does anyone know why 09/27 has such large threshold displacements? Saving maintenance costs?

[Cows getting bigger]

The runway was extended significantly immediately after the 1982 conflict in order to accommodate F4s. This was predominately done use MEXE/PSP metal 'matting'. Once Mount Pleasant was open, there was little/no need to keep the long runway.

36/18 is a tad under 300m short; plenty for an Islander and indeed the Do228 that used to float around. 27/09 is about 1200m.

[dook]

A shot in the dark.

Fair Isle ?

[ea200]

Not Fair Isle and not in the UK.

[ea200]

Time for a clue I think. This picture is taken from just below the Southern threshold looking roughly East. There are many of these things around here.
What drives them contributes significantly to local tourism.https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmforum.com-vbulletin/2000x1047/pprune0818b_7e6a245b12b4fe79f051a4199d9745c3c64eff2d.jpg

[India Four Two]

ea200,

Is the tourism related to wind surfing?

[ea200]

Yes it is.

[Airclues]

South Africa?

[ea200]

A long way from South Africa

[India Four Two]

A different south? South of France?

[ea200]

Not the South of France but a lot closer. This runway was carved out of the hillside in 1994 but abandoned not long after, following (I am told) a change of local government.

[friartuck]

Broadford in Skye?

[dook]

He has already said it's not UK.

[sidtheesexist]

Long long shot.......went to Tenerife once and saw lots of windywurfers.....so, I’m thinking Canaries, looking on G maps it looks like a possible strip at Caleta de Famara on Lanzarote...?

[ea200]

Nice try Sid. That looks more like some sort of road layout to me. It's not the Canaries and not anywhere else in Spain.

[sidtheesexist]

Thks ea, as I stated, a very long shot! Good challenge ��

[jensdad]

I know that Tarifa in Andalusia is a big windsurfing destination, don't know if there's ever been an airfield there, though...
EDIT: Oops, sorry, you just said it was 'nowhere else in Spain'!

[ea200]

Maybe it's worth looking towards the East.

[dook]

This challenge has been up for the best part of a week and seems to be going nowhere.

I have been trying to find it for a long time and have tried as far east as Italy.

Perhaps it is now time for a decent clue to get things moving.

[ea200]

I don't disagree Dook. Italy is not far enough East and it's not in Europe.

[nvubu]

Turkey......

[Cows getting bigger]

I'm thinking Greece or Turkey. Long shot, Alicati, Turkey.

[dook]

Greece and Turkey are European countries.

5% of Turkey is in Europe.

[Cows getting bigger]

5% of Turkey is in Europe.


... and 95% isn't. :)

[dook]

Smartarse. :}

[ea200]

It is Alıcatı which is most definitely in Asia. It shows up well on GE but I didn't want to post an overhead except as a last resort. I tried to get close enough for a ground level shot but the access road was far too rough for one of Mr Avis' finest. I discovered recently that a tender went out for a replacement for this strip and one of three tenders was accepted. A local contact tells me that it will be built in the same location but I can't help feeling there must be somewhere better. Construction will start next year.

CGB has control.

[Cows getting bigger]

Thanks, Open House chaps.

[mgahan]

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmforum.com-vbulletin/754x565/rwy_edge_1_cba6eeff42bf6c5af562435019f7278236303dce.jpg
An international airport.
I'm in KL so any hints, if needed will be tomorrow..

MJG

[jensdad]

Looking at your location and the local flora, I'll start things off with a shot at Cairns?

[ea200]

Seems short of lighting and too flat for Cairns. Somewhere in Africa?

[dook]

It's not Cairns but it does have 24hrs customs.

[friartuck]

Darwin??? ....................

[mgahan]

It does have lighting but certainly not H24 customs. Certainly not Africa.

MJG
off to bed for some sleep before the rugby championship games tomorrow.

[mgahan]

Some more pics might help.

But of more use might be a note that the terminal is being upgraded. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmforum.com-vbulletin/768x567/taxiway_lead_off_line_3a0dda717340e9adc59ffb2688f75572d07c08 46.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmforum.com-vbulletin/754x565/taxiway_entrance_39ec02945f49325099aa14883f964c2f7f4ccc0a.jp g
.

[chimbu warrior]

Is it Kiritimati,(Christmas Island Cassidy International) PLCH?

[mgahan]

The Warrior has it. Cassidy PLCH in the mid Pacific. And a bonus point for the correct spelling.

MJG

[chimbu warrior]

Still no ability to post pictures, but I continue to enjoy this thread.

Open house.

[friartuck]

Can't you just drag and drop pictures?

[nvubu]

Here's another one from my holidays

https://krkpta.db.files.1drv.com/y4mXodj5rpUwicvphW-xTbfou_H4BWQtzqBnNdy-T9YuGIFXGL7tdKS6s1rMgjeNUxWtz17r3MxyQoMlqb3zwatc-vwRgiI65xlxijGH1ayn7bbE3wCmdBvLq-CYIss4mEpAK2LoSm7x0X-rcoYIwe-tl72fjg3skfv_4XDOpfMrRvVnktpqEwH1Vsf3Hszkb4KsZK9H9SYXfppJw8S chT_Bg?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Time for a clue: The hills in the background are not in the same country as the airfield.

[jensdad]

Could it be Portoroz, Slovenia (very close to the Croatian border)?

[nvubu]

Portoroz it is.

I thought it would last a bit longer with the "misdirection" of "my holidays" - as this was from last year not this year.

Over to you Jensdad.

[jensdad]

Thankyou, nvubu!
Where's this bucolic aerodrome? https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmforum.com-vbulletin/397x800/2016_06_21_001_099_copy_397x800__3f1b9996eabf11211fe921d32c6 cc3ee96933f6d.jpg

[Cows getting bigger]

St Mary's, Scillies.

[jensdad]

It certainly is St. Mary's, CGB. I thought that one wouldn't last too long.

Over to you....

[Cows getting bigger]

A quickie

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1888/43704888975_116423da0a_c.jpg

[Flap40]

27R LHR. OH if correct.

[Cows getting bigger]

Indeed it is. OH has been declared.

[India Four Two]

Somewhere in Suffolk?

[Cows getting bigger]

That's Weston on the Green.

OH if correct.

[nvubu]

This shouldn't last long

https://h2tphw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mNXDFxv9HLBJfo99kVFGkmnrw4NVyqH6q94jQiEA5m07xp20kiR-hwhLB4XSznZSDCEANhK2xuMA5YIPAL8E-xnlloYpWGzoxoc6TDxusmMQmK9_hV9T3lKgGIgdbu5gxqDuhtMZQdLDk7C60 9lsNuE6uQ_ZbKLxERqHFcGJmdhwDETFUBeIk6EeUjFIUPFzLOKf3xRgdxFxR IUZgDwdLvQ?width=765&height=303&cropmode=none

[kenparry]

Bicester?

too short an answer...…………………. Bicester, perhaps???

[dook]

There's something important cropped from bottom right.

http://i63.tinypic.com/mc6khe.jpg

[nvubu]

Knew it wouldn't last very long.
Surprising where aerodromes were located in the past isn't it.
Over to you dook. :ok:

[dook]

I recently found a heritage site which is excellent for photographs of extinct aerodromes.

All I have available are overhead photographs, so if you do not want one of those I'll throw it open. However if you all find that acceptable then I'm ready to post.

[nvubu]

post them up

[dook]

Yer 'tis then.

http://i63.tinypic.com/hth5vs.jpg

[paddyboy]

Beccles. OH.

[dook]

paddyboy's the boy.

OH is called.

[nvubu]

Somewhere in Africa?

[friartuck]

Nigeria? looks bad enough

maybe not - most Nigerian strips have decent distance markings these days.........

[nvubu]

Traffic looks to be driving on the right, so that excludes most of East & Southern Africa.

Edit to add:
Monrovia Spriggs Payne.

[nvubu]

Traffic drove 'as required.'
Sounds very much like Zaire/Congo.

Here's the next challenge
https://vclpbw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mOC7TrcZIWh3TWmIbmuxRs2HCNXVW-_0klUnvZxuUzGp0nuJ6N-j9k5ceVNU25xAh9-kHTUbrf3FbLKP0izhetOFDOL2u0eUTHJW3bwg3ZXDxgofxgHiCGVRW7JR8rK qWmoGx3DtPBdQzCgq3ljb1fQDmJoSfHISEvfY_AxccDEcUyG-pngvSBTN0UPSP2S_zOhb_u-PDCytBOpRCRADNNA?width=1024&height=734&cropmode=none

[friartuck]

British and US flags flying - a meeting between the UK Prime Minister and a US President??? Possible a USSR flag as well - so we're maybe talking Yalta Feb 1945 - the coats would suggest a wintery day

That might be Churchill's personal C-54 or Roosevelt's C-54- the "Sacred Cow"

[friartuck]

Churchill used both a York and eventually a C-54.............

[nvubu]

friartuck has it in one. Welcome to the thread, look forward to your challenges.

Arriving for Yalta at Saki/Saky in Crimea Feb 1945.
Here are some more images
https://8d0reg.db.files.1drv.com/y4mL8W5GJPyGRAckapt1uQISGhBwQHMRDcFN1sNTsyxjG0jSN27CMS-Eyws1SW2HuiF4ukpDTUenJ3BevFSzbWCE_unwF_qVqrg0kY93gNJR1hzZfoI rhkWScV_NazIDFw_h5CLZ32G7NkPJ1t0hLtkwUhmjOgyhElD8nlWoNy6smeN ydlcOFYD1oIH7rhLOM83YGZv4mi3SFJV5dPr3o7EYA?width=660&height=494&cropmode=none

https://ultcza.db.files.1drv.com/y4m7A4vz2X32GlgMaKFoiMx5zo5FmjbaZ1RkzBBqQ659yU5rYn1XcTB6zhQF mp645Mkafvg1xsBHI1gsMmeMSqvc199MEDkb2EXNrD_BLrKcNSrvY52A341-JAWwAtMC1BsEM5PqooHhz_DVHlQVRfd79xzZ5Gy4fej7_Xwj2Umh5QkeRXYF ug2PYAuWE6LLoS6TgDdsa_CSP6-pUMXpLscxA?width=660&height=474&cropmode=none

https://hpaakg.db.files.1drv.com/y4m2XEnroeqg_tINZ-Ilty27pEQCW87Z4s9Y78GtquKVHjuHtpPX_MeVotKwC3CR4NxmTz_w5J78hr Z1dTgy7ylVXsr4F3IOu7mpif2KPV_-qA2NUWzNep1wfKPalnxX4lJDZPqe4glaQTT-dMgACIXBUy3PTvFo51y-vhyG_z345Ha8qPajrE_5YfX5XVCb4HlHwgI1zRRYDXxscltZKtx8A?width= 660&height=494&cropmode=none

https://9ornpw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mR_jy0V7ABFWu8NwwxPs3SClaiHxmkiNWpsfN9FJKebYY0CQb8WwHmQoWO GV53wIbSih3--xmjiYdBDxm-3UkOwYCw-FYtH8fkHeLIwUQgxKLy9dnH8sTDrk88C9TlvVrNkZTwyQ-BGwYxm2U39uw89FxoDYslnAdTIDOjr1YDQLdzgTS1QCZhYjeRSYw-PDlzW5AvTL4PcpIy9rQ2ukYPQ?width=660&height=509&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

Great challenge nvubu and well done friartuck.

The follow up pictures of Churchill in an RAF uniform intrigued me, so I did some research.

PPRuNe to the rescue!

https://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/268663-churchill-uniforms.html

[friartuck]

Phew!!! That was lucky shot!! OK try this one...... a long way from Yalta - and I don't think ANYONE important ever went here.................

.https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/593x710/2018_09_13_142021_047f3ee3a806bec5c1ce46681566fd2163e278f3.j pg

[nvubu]

Eastern Europe?

[friartuck]

A long way from E Europe.................. actually quite a long way from anywhere civilised (for a given value of civilisation)

the screen shot doesn't show that there is actually quite a bit of agriculture locally..............

[India Four Two]

ft,

Bearing in mind that there are different definitions of civilization, how about the Imperial Valley?

[jensdad]

Hmmm, there are parts of Russia that are 'a long way from Eastern Europe'. Somewhere in Siberia?

[friartuck]

No, neither........ tho Imperial Valley is closer......... and they speak Spanish as well..............

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/356x263/2018_09_13_141800_27448adf3824ddbd31f328961c76c0219873a9dd.j pg

[nvubu]

Spanish - Central/South America?

[friartuck]

Ola!! but that's a biggggg place

To assist this place is a long way from the sea-side.................

[Shackman]

Aeropueto Dr.Luis Maria Argana, Paraguay. If correct OH

[friartuck]

well done shackman!!!!

Dr. Luis María Argaña International Airport is an airport that serves the small city of Mariscal Estigarribia, in the Boquerón Department of Paraguay. The airport is named after Luis María Argaña, a vice president who was assassinated in 1999. It is operated by Paraguayan military authorities.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/394x231/2018_09_13_141555_c22a234881463ae1f854897f3593a1096e2fddc0.j pg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/263x193/2018_09_13_141507_44c9256b7e84a686e31e3da9d4246050bde2cd39.j pg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/445x251/2018_09_13_141634_05344915429c13a389427004ba15ec91d168163b.j pg

[mgahan]

Well, I am in the area this week, landed in Sao Paulo about 12 hours: long journey. This airport has alsohttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/574x540/jock_cassels_3_crop_3be2229747eb33f9a560efffd2de2bca75d4bc92 .jpg
had a long journey.

[sycamore]

The jets look like Canberras,or Meteors..

[dook]

It's familiar to me. I think it's Changi.

[sycamore]

Think that maybe a Hasty ,or Valetta fuselage,for para/loading/rescue practice...doesn't appear to have wings...Can`t be `66 as I`m sure all Cranberries op`d out of Tengah,and if you look on the `RAF Routes` thread, there seems a lot more concrete for Brits,Comets ,etc,etc...as we was at war with the neighbours.....well,where I was,FEAF were still posing in No1s....

[mgahan]

Apologies for the delay - yes it is Changi circa 1971. A cropped photo!

Well done dook .

Big change these days, including the coastline.

I'm doing some work on T5 and RWY 3 and was on site in 1976 when the "opening" ceremony was held and initial foundations laid for the "civil" airport.

MJG

[mgahan]

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1002x1032/jock_cassels_3_5c775f541e6ed49cf73b936e7ce75ef726357ad3.jpg
Here's the full photo.

[sycamore]

JENKS,MJG, apologies for doubting the dates of the pic....!

[dook]

Many thanks MJG.

Mr. Tien in downtown Singapore did a mean line in quality hi-fi in the late sixties.
http://i64.tinypic.com/1goqo.jpg

[India Four Two]

Is this in the tropics?

[dook]

Nowhere near the tropics but it is on a large island.

[friartuck]

Is it some scratty corner of the British Isles? hard to tell what the vegetation is but I can think of some odd corners that look that disheveled

[dook]

It is indeed a part of the British Isles.

[jensdad]

If it's on a 'large island' I'm thinking it's actually on Great Britain or Ireland, rather than an outlying island? If so, haven't got a clue where it is!

[dook]

It's in Oirland to be sure.

Part of the British Isles but not the United Kingdom.

[friartuck]

An old picture of Abbeyshire??

[dook]

JENKINS shoots and scores - nicely done.

[India Four Two]

Central or northern Italy?

[chevvron]

0920, out to lunch at the far end of my very large county. Still 'mourning' at this airfield? The Liverpudlian who built 'mon repos,' and who remains a very decent neighbour, once lived and built in this town, but not, he assures me, with any connection to the oldest building.
'Mourning'? Mountains of Mourne?
Looks ex USAAF from the diamond shaped dispersals.

[India Four Two]

South Africa? Fruit growing country?

[India Four Two]

Further down the boot then? Southern Italy?

[dook]

Does the fruit growing reference apply to vines ?

[dook]

I'm wondering if we should go NE of Italy.

[dook]

Possibly the USA then.

[dook]

Cryptic.

Initially thought Bora Bora but it can't be.

[dook]

New Zuland ?

[evansb]

Bay of Islands Airport, ( IATA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATA_airport_code): KKE, ICAO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICAO_airport_code): NZKK), near Kerikeri, Northland, New Zealand.

[sidtheesexist]

I’m obviously a bit dopey, what we’re all the boot references about? :ugh:

[India Four Two]

What sid said!

[evansb]

Thank you. Here is the next mystery aerodrome:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1280x960/zvimenj_322e09557cf17ecf369ae631522cad8c85195599.jpg

[evansb]

No swimming pools. Not a tourist town. Livestock roam freely, sometimes even on the airfield.

[Airclues]

No idea where it is evansb but I love the glide approach. Full flap, idle power and Vref+5 will put you right on the numbers.

[kaikohe76]

Caribbean possibly, quite likely wrong, but I was spot on first time with Jenkins far flung airfield!

[chevvron]

According to the runway markings, no instrument approach on 24.
Bern was like that, and served by '146s, but it's not Bern.

[evansb]

Not the Caribbean. Initial photo on final for runway 06, which is just over 4,000 feet long. Due to terrain, most departures are off runway 24. Ramp shot below:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/859x675/l0r4hpf_5410d9fbdb2dd6f7c17385b2b6acf9bba257c379.jpg

[grizzled]

A Southeast Asia vibe... Indonesia perhaps?

[evansb]

Not Indonesia, but yes, somewhere in Southeast Asia.

[evansb]

JENKINS is correct. It is indeed Basco (IATA: BSO, ICAO: RPUO), an airport serving the island province of Batanes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batanes) in the Philippines. On December 8, 1941, it was the launch airfield for the Japanese to bomb Clark Field at Manila.

Your turn.

[kenparry]

Twinwood Farm?

[dook]

Was it by any chance a decoy airfield ?

[dook]

Nobody heard my Mayday call - had to be rescued by a farmer. :eek:

So is it in what is now an LFA.

[Cows getting bigger]

That will be RAF Cottam, the one in Yorkshire and not the one used by the air traffic control school.

[Cows getting bigger]

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/3393439c_2784_43d3_a3c7_2450cb5b291a_4f58f9bd4df2c6a854b3bd8 7787c652f29d07dbd.jpeg
Thanks. Here you go.

[Cows getting bigger]

The 42’s slightly bigger brother; it gets about a bit. This place has been done before but from a different angle. We’re looking North West with the runway to the right of view.

[chevvron]

Middleton St George? (or whatever it's called this week)

[Cows getting bigger]

Nice try Chevron. However that’s sand not snow. :)

[kaikohe76]

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1020/lar2_1__69fdd04ad99ea00269fb443f53e8bb914c245b1f.jpg

Finals with a lowish & rather tight turn to come.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1835/lar2_2__e55eff11cc25df53df56c6059bff53bfa7c25ffc.jpg

Same spot about to commence T/O roll

[dook]

Have we solved Cows getting bigger challenge then ?

[kaikohe76]

Response is here & not for the first time, one`s hand is raised. Likely a bit quick on the final couple of buttons pressed, thanks to Jenkins tutorial. That was not the plan, so apologies are in order. Regards.

[JW411]

Is it Bait al Falaj? OH if I'm right.

[dook]

The problem with this thread is the obscurity of challenges and the fact that clues are few and far between.

I would have thought that Cows might have given another clue by now.

[kenparry]

#8049: Gulf (Persian or Arabian according to taste)?

[oldpax]

Salalha(?) by the indian ocean.

[India Four Two]

+1 for Bayt al Falaj

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1580x1068/bayt_al_falaj_full_16946_71246_010_provost_2_b2d8b68d0282918 9a6fad241c8c2912331f826c2.jpg

[dixi188]

Thread drift.
Heard a story about the Beaver and Piston Provost at Bait.
In the mess, when the Beavers were new, an argument was going on about which aircraft could fly slower, so a race was flown.
At low level above the runway the two aircraft flew side by side with the Provost going slower until the two guys on the beaver pushed the doors open with their feet and flew even slower to win the race.

IIRC Bait closed in 1975 when Seeb was opened. When I arrived in 76 the runway was still there. It then became the town of Ruwi.
.

[jensdad]

I've never been to Bait al Falaj (never even heard of it until now!) but if it closed in 1976, then I'd say the photo just looks a bit too recent for it to be there?
Funnily enough, I see what you mean, chevvron: the hangars have the look of Teesside about them. Replace the sand with snow and it's a good shout.

[WIDN62]

All a bit confusing, but on the "is it or isn't it Bait?" discussion, my vote is for Khasab.

[kaikohe76]

Nice photo of the Beverley & as Jenkins quite rightly says from 84 Sqn, my photo was from the Mk1 Andover (1967/8) next aircraft type off the rank in 84 colours. A great first operational tour for many of us back in those happy days.

[chevvron]

Nice photo of the Beverley & as Jenkins quite rightly says from 84 Sqn, my photo was from the Mk1 Andover (1967/8) next aircraft type off the rank in 84 colours. A great first operational tour for many of us back in those happy days.
84 were at Akrotiri equipped with Wessex in 1986. I flew with them (ATC Easter camp) and saw their knickers.(Look at their Wiki entry if you don't understand)

[Airclues]

So have we established that post 8925 is a taxiway in a sandstorm and post 8931 is Bait al Falaj? If so, shall we declare OH to keep the thread moving (JW411 was the first to identify it)? Nice photos BTW kaikohe76 and I42.

Dave

[chevvron]

Madley
I understand Rudolf Hess was flown from here (gawd knows why) to Nuremberg for his trial so apart from training thousands of wartime radio operators, it has got a history!
and open house:)

[kaikohe76]

Hi Chevvron,
Yes we had the `84 SQN Knickers` in a glass fronted box in the crew room at Sharjah, wonder what ever happened to them. A lot of history for this particular Squadron & for me, a great first operational tour as a rather fresh faced Andover Co Pilot. Regards.

[chevvron]

Hi Chevvron,
Yes we had the `84 SQN Knickers` in a glass fronted box in the crew room at Sharjah, wonder what ever happened to them. A lot of history for this particular Squadron & for me, a great first operational tour as a rather fresh faced Andover Co Pilot. Regards.
They were still in the glass fronted box in '86.
Looking at google I see 84 are still in residence at Akrotiri now equipped with Griffon HAR2 helicopters so may even be in the same squadron hut; if so all the trophies were on the right as you enter.

[chevvron]

Yes, That's it. Further celebrity status conferred by the training of Eric Sykes.
I knew the instructor who taught him to fly a Tiger Moth at Blackbushe in the 60s.

[jensdad]

Looks European but doesn't really look like far north or far south. Rolling countryside. Not many airfields in this country.
I'm going to take one of my occasionally lucky wild guesses and say Wiltz, Luxembourg.

[jensdad]

...lovely rolling countryside, Grand really.
Ah, so it is in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg? If so, my Michelin road map of the Benelux only has the airfields at Wiltz and Findel marked. Stumped for the moment...

[oldandbald]

Back to previous challenge Hess was flown from Madley I expect because he was being held then at Maindiff Court Hospital Abergavenny which was nearby

[dook]

I think the challenge is Useldange.

[dook]

Many thanks J.

Next:

http://i67.tinypic.com/fliwyt.jpg

[nvubu]

kaikohe76 - You need to win a challenge or the winner needs to declare Open House.
dook won the last challenge so he has control of the thread and we need to solve his puzzle first.
dook - Eastern Europe?

[dook]

Good morning all.

The challenge is in France. Think Luftwaffe.

[dook]

Another view

http://i68.tinypic.com/kb54ix.jpg

[dook]

It's in the NE so I assume so.

edit: a little research indicates silt soil.

[dook]

Now there's a great shot.

Please take the floor. :ok:

[dook]

....as I believe there is one itching for a chance.

I've already solved his.

[nvubu]

As the other challenge hasn't reappeared, here's one from me to be going on with - larger version here (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20181007_01.jpg)

https://9j0wpg.db.files.1drv.com/y4mJXjUS2wX8fcg9dD6zBYqCiE3JB2IEauU3URnfIWnUCRWARqbtj5LB4jAn YcRk1pabLvpZFg1Hp-eRPRq6GsqqXAjceKT29ME7xNht5J6rG01GHk-1lFmyTERhk4QZbvU8jNTHrdyZUDNjCvNMyeh8ADci9-iyLq6zf99KuzzLulBPuz78cd5Yv8SMB9Pe4BBEKetaYh43L4Rhroenbh1Gw? width=1024&height=612&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Not in France - or even in Europe.

[dook]

Far east maybe.

Possibly fake buildings to hide an airfield.

[nvubu]

Far East correct.

Not fake buildings. Airfield is as seen - to the east.

[nvubu]

Well done Jenkins, Tachikawa it is - I thought that would be much harder, and I had such a good image lined up next with three airfields on it - two still existing, one long gone.

https://lcdlpw.db.files.1drv.com/y4muGVag9J4fgVG6AnpTOckZHt0skzruYoSPzZazlz1IGIPcBkNGZ8RjD4kh ViRPOs691FAj7eGASDeZaxtXfQmnB9m2KGva8wedBwafJp6aTGcwy-cSvpxhIVWs9SwlUUNAWXeLKkjTWDTzXBPMx9iNOQPpf8JKa56x9Soe2w_44i 0vEyvZXDdTepkQJ4gxusWUd64kNKcuHVH4gZtQLCt9A?width=1024&height=655&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Seen somewhere very similar previously. Ex RAF base with modern base just south of it - can't remember the name/location, Maybe Egypt - Red Sea in the top right of the image.

[nvubu]

I've now remembered the airfield I was thinking of is RAF Fayid - which this one obviously isn't.:ok:

[dook]

Near the Suez Canal such as Abu Suweir ?

[kenparry]

Ras al Hadd, Oman?

[kenparry]

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1640x1117/67landsend_a29b493ac112da09826faa7d556a386ed4efe599.jpg
The history of Ras al Hadd seems to be quite well hidden. I knew the area when I did a tour in the Gulf decades back, 1969-70, and visited Masirah occasionally from my base at Muharraq. I also understand it was built by the US, but why? Did they have any military involvement in the area in WW2? Or did they build it for UK use? It's listed by Wikipedia, but with no information.

My next offering, should last all of a few minutes:

[dook]

Is this the one which once had a right engine fire on start-up due to overpriming ?

[dook]

Lands End ?

[kenparry]

dook,

I can't answer your first question, but the answer to your second is: yes. Date, for info, August 1974.

You have control.

[dook]

Rapide G-AYIR:

The aircraft was being prepared for flight, with the commander and seven passengers on board. The left engine was started first, followed, after priming, by the right engine. Immediately after the right engine started the pilot saw a flame, which appeared to originate from the outboard section of its engine cowling. Believing the right wing to have caught fire, he shut down both engines. The pilot then assisted with passenger evacuation, which had been initiated by the ground crew when the fire broke out. Ground crew also tackled the fire, with hand held appliances, and had extinguished the fire when the aerodrome fire service arrived on scene.

Standby please.

[dook]

Next one :

http://i68.tinypic.com/2lkeebq.jpg

[dook]

Orientated true north and in the UK.

[chevvron]

Hard runways partly dug up and now a gliding site (I'm told one of the runways was never finished anyway).
Pocklington (Yorks)
OH:)

[dook]

Nice shooting chevvron.

OH it is.

[chevvron]

Nice shooting chevvron.

OH it is.
Interesting airfield; my source says it was originally built with a runway 01/19 and a runway 17/35 ie within 20 deg of each other but another source says construction on one runway (doesn't say which one but I assume it was 17/35) was abandoned because it would have meant heavily loaded Halifaxes climbing out over a built up area.
Looks like there could have been another runway about 07/25 originally too.

[nvubu]

Not in the UK.
https://xxcpha.db.files.1drv.com/y4mESyIqPtdhllpWvb31z8A-E79l9rZUl0e63e5sGGSg-Etx0pRYf4PJFet8nn_YuQDf9f_WI9g9XIAaliJjDD6hQ0wos_Q2SJpS96vkg DoSF9n9ufIwD0Q_-5RAOM0rJ2m4mptPK0-mWbmcd67LgYTEhu4iwyG_ZaOe8qV62tbR928NDSuQ-JOYtWlDcFUkcYhGZuLEnKJjC9_F1JiuXl38g?width=955&height=1024&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Not in France either, but it is in Europe.

[dook]

Germany maybe ?

[nvubu]

Not Germany..

[dook]

Eeny meeny mynee mo.................Eetaly ?

[nvubu]

Nope...…..
You can see a bit more of the airfield in this image
https://porljw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mp55Q9H1VbbfbmiCXJFm886tPtn35maIlZzmHFi5wbN1bNfgZwJuIgDyOZ iiGam4usFF_w-5etIcQU19rhM-vp8yF3H0Kgc9KhLbTqnfYh6nHej1dxnqgZmbe0lj7DG_nG39WnQvAiZwbLUb 69NsDcJyTHG6wjiXrDJtjfGulTDQV2ip5iltaHpJiggQ0vcAxsVHyAVIcCaR 3EIYdlvo_FA?width=969&height=1024&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Wider view.
Buildings are still present.
North is at the bottom of the photo.

https://h2ubbw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mZUUedq5ia-f9G0QGqBKHgUDElg7pIF3MbEaKnuOwCdIWEvYrFszqCoqZ8AORfa5DKwhMoH lyXizCJ57A3Kuf_7dT0nxVO-wu9n--V-RInlHzVlXXTFnIN8MoidynXXAtVIc781mhGqP-9o7ScTFolG0E8sMicUdkI3wsev155uXgmU_pPRKIV8CSirxZRLRduCUR3mpW tmgKysw560trGA?width=1007&height=1024&cropmode=none

[dook]

As far as Poland ?

[nvubu]

Poland is too far north.

[sycamore]

Think it may be Rumania,or Hungary...

[nvubu]

Romania too far east, Hungary still too far north.

[dook]

How about Yugoslavia.

[nvubu]

Well that's the country narrowed down :ok:

[dook]

I have a list of 130 WW2 airfields there.

I may be away for some time !!!

[nvubu]

How are you getting on ?

[dook]

Slowly !

It seems that there is no evidence of Luftwaffe activity at many Yugoslav airfields.

Was this one used by the Luftwaffe ?

[nvubu]

Was being bombed by the Allies, so I guess so :)

[dook]

But may have not been German.

Air Force of the Independent State of Croatia (Zrakoplovstvo Nezavisne Države Hrvatske, ZNDH

Nothing coming up though.

Food for thought: A great deal of misleading information is published about Allied air raids.

[nvubu]

The images were taken by B17s of the 15th AAF.

When I search for the name of the airfield, the results always show the modern field not this one.

Also, not Croatia.

[nvubu]

It does have an ICAO code. That should narrow it down somewhat.

[Archer4]

Maribor perhaps?

[Davidsoffice]

Mostar Jasenica?

[nvubu]

It isn't in Slovenia.

Reminders:

The buildings you can see in the last image are still present.
South is approx. at the top of the image.
When searching for "town name" and "airport" in GE, the current/modern airport is shown.
Even when searching for the full name of the airfield, this current airport is shown
If you zoom out from the modern airport, the one in the image will appear.


ADDED:
My reply crossed with Davidsoffice.
Bingo, Mostar Jasenica it is. Well done, you have control.

[Davidsoffice]

So many clues with country and ICAO code, two airfields, geography with rising ground and two rivers.

Open house I'm afraid.