Which Aerodrome Mk III

[nvubu]

The source of all the images I posted state that they are on Umnak Island - which is where Ft Glenn is - although it doesn't state whether they are at Ft Glenn or one of the two satellite fields.

The sentry in my 2nd image looks like he is wearing the WWI style helmet, so the image is early rather than later, which would suggest Ft Glenn again.

LM - you have control

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you - we got there somehow in the end.

New one:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/old_zpsd06081b6.jpg

[cuefaye]

Thank you - we got there somehow in the end.



Did we? Or am I confused again (not difficult these days)

[India Four Two]

United States?

[chevvron]

Looks more like a tank park in Germany to me.

[Lordflasheart]

Tanks ...??!! There's me thinking they wuz pigsties or hayricks. Intrigued by the three diamond shaped markings on the large pan and the shanty town on the boundary. Best I can guess is a former "Eastern Bloc" field - LFH

[asw22]

Hello all!

Happy new year everybody!

The three diamonds are actually three squares with the "H" symbol in a dotted triangle...so it seems like US Army training grounds on a former airfield...as for the airfield itself it looks like one of these many old navy training bases around Chesapeake Bay (and elsewhere on the West Coast); I have thought for a while it may have been a former German Fliegerhorst but the disposition, hangar location, size of runways and tarmac are all wrong...I would say US, really...:)

[Lordflasheart]

While we're waiting for LM to reach rotate speed, briefly back to the Aleutians where I found Nvubu's photo of the P-40 under maintenance.

On balance I suggest the pic would have been at Fort Glenn, rather than either of the satellites.


I also found this approach (??**!!) plate from 1943 - Radio Range I suppose. It shows Fort Glenn plus its two subsequent satellites (North and South West) as referred to in the Wiki entry for Ft. G.

I would post the plate but I can't get into PB again.

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/FortGlennplus2satellites-1.jpg?t=1358155932

It appears the southwesterly satellite field was later covered in lava and there is nothing of it on GE. The northern one is still evident on GE and I wonder if a misunderstanding has crept in over the years.

The northern satellite would logically have qualified for the name "North Shore."

Wiki refers to "North Shore" with a logical Lat & Long for the north satellite, but GE has "North Shore" annotated at the location of Ft. Glenn. I think the GE notation is incorrect.

LFH

Late edit - new beta pbuck still playing up - its only the old site plus ffox that works for me. A fascinating challenge Nvubu - now for LM's Pacific island.

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning and apologies for an unexpected absence.

This was an American airfield on a Pacific island.

[nacluv]

Not sure of it's exact name, but I'm going to go for Orote Field, Guam. Next to Apra Harbour.

OH if correct.

[Lightning Mate]

Bingo. :ok:

nacluv has called OH.

[India Four Two]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WAD2013-01-11a_zps6e0b79b5.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

That's the famous B57 incident at Bien Hoa, Vietnam.

[India Four Two]

Infamous might be better, LM ;)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WAD2013-01-11_zps2f134598.jpg

Bien Hoa Disaster

This prompted more raids into North Vietnam. The B-57 mission continued to increase to the point that it became an around-the-clock commitment. This forced the weapons storage facility to deliver ordnance well ahead of the frag orders. There were bombs stored underneath the wings of the B-57s. The ordnance consisted of 250, 500 and 750-pound general-purpose bombs. Many bombs were armed with time-delay fuses. They were set for 24, 36, 48, 72 and 144-hour delay. All fuses were anti-withdrawal. There were also 750 lb of napalm stored on the ramp.
The prepositioning of this ordnance was the basis for one of the 'worst disasters in Air Force history'. On May 16, 1965, while waiting to takeoff on a mission, a B-57B exploded on the ground at Bien Hoa, setting off a whole chain of secondary explosions. Five 50,000 gallon bladders of JP-4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JP-4) jet fuel went up in smoke. When the explosions finally ceased, ten B-57s, one Navy F-8 Crusader (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-8_Crusader) and fifteen A-1Es were destroyed plus several ground support units. Twenty-seven men killed and over 100 were wounded.


Bien Hoa Air Base - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bien_Hoa_Air_Base)

LM has control.

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks I42, but I'm going to have to call an OH on this one because I have nothing prepared.

Why don't you throw up another one. :ok:

[India Four Two]

My aerodrome cupboard is bare :)

LM has declared open house.

[Lightning Mate]

OK, now got one.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/notanymore_zps45373f76.jpg

[sidtheesexist]

Harrowbeer, Nr Yelverton Devon me thinks. If correct, OH plse


I know it's Harrowbeer - I endeavoured to display a degree of humility and politeness...........Nice at least to have the correct answer formally 'confirmed' - after all, 'Manners maketh the Man'!!! :D

[dash7fan]

As its open house

http://my-pictures.at/user/008661/703790/49KGB-8661-703790-d_1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

dash7fan,

He said "If correct, OH plse"

I had not confirmed the answer so it wasn't OH.

However yours is Schwechat in Vienna when, I believe, it was an RAF base.

[dash7fan]

LM, sorry.

It is RAF Vienna Schwechat 1954

[Lightning Mate]

LM, sorry.

Don't worry or apologise mate - it's very easy to do. :)

[Lightning Mate]

Here ye go....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/nuvver-1_zps33246895.jpg

[Background Noise]

Ahh.....Llanbedr

[Lightning Mate]

Ahh.....bingo. :ok:

Shot at a couple of Jindiviks (rather their flares) out of there in me time.

Your turn.

[Background Noise]

Filmed a few rocket firings and bashed a few circuits. Seemed the standard thing for studes to do was from the right hand circuit to 18, they'd get confused half way round and roll out lined up on 16. Good times though.

Open House.

[LFT]

How about this one -

http://i50.tinypic.com/m6hxt.jpg

[LFT]

NOT Europe, sounds like it is though.

[India Four Two]

Southeastern US?

[LFT]

Quite possibly ;)

[LFT]

Ex B-17 Training Base.

[LFT]

Last military residents were A-10's.

Heloooo, anyone out there? ;)

[Lordflasheart]

We're not ignoring you LFT, this one seemed like hard work, New Years malaise still. But -- in the end - England AFB., Louisiana ? LFH

[LFT]

Correct! Taken from a United 737 en route Newark - Houston. Over to you LFH.

[Lordflasheart]

Thankyou LFT.

This place has also seen some interesting experiments conducted.

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/LFHWAD18.jpg?t=1358765064

[chevvron]

Predannack - Barnes Wallis' swing wing experiments years before the yanks thought of it.

OH if correct.

[Lordflasheart]

Hiya Chevvy - Spot on again ! RNAS Predannack mid 80s ***. Perhaps the experiments bit was too much of an early clue ?

For the unenlightened (including me as of yesterday, tho I played toy soldiers on the small arms range half a century ago) ---

"After the war, Wallis conducted model flying experiments with his Wild Goose and Swallow designs at RAF Predannack in Cornwall. The models were launched from a rocket-powered rail sled and remotely-controlled by radio. The rails ran parallel to the main runway, crossing the other runway, although the latter was later returned to use."

*** Edit to add- Lizard Peninsula, Cornwall, England ;)


Chevvron has declared Open House.

[chevvron]

The launching track shows up nicely just above the east - west runway.

[India Four Two]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WAD2013-01-18_zpsb2c91d9a.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

I've seen that before somewhere.

Ex-USAF somewhere in the far east?

[India Four Two]

Yes, but no Lightnings here, not even the piston kind. ;)

[Lightning Mate]

....but no Lightnings here

It's certainly not Tengha if that's what you mean.

[India Four Two]

You're right. Not in Singapore, but ex-USAF in SE Asia.

[Lightning Mate]

Vung Tau.....

[India Four Two]

Yes, Vung Tau.

No need for my clue then -"Herds of aircraft"
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/image_zps1ba38862.jpg

Home to US Army and RAAF Caribous.

LM has control.

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks IFT.

Another one to ponder.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/newone_zps8c4a6b96.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Clue time - Benelux.

[Hen Ddraig]

Eindhoven, away at the moment so OH

Hen ddraig

[Lightning Mate]

Very nicely done - Eindhoven it is.

Hen Ddraig has called Open House.

[Cubs2jets]

Scramble !! Since Open House was declaired I submit this.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/CCF12072011_00025e_zps71f639ed.jpg

[evansb]

Toledo, Ohio ?

[Cubs2jets]

Not Toledo. Airport built in 1929 and had airline service from 1932 to 1947. Ironically, the biggest clue to the airports identity is in the picture.

C2j

[Airclues]

Bowman Field, Kentucky?

OH if correct as off to Barcelona for the weekend.

Dave

[India Four Two]

Is the biggest clue the small airplanes?

Lock Haven?

[Cubs2jets]

Not Bowman or Lock Haven.

C2j

[asw22]

Considering those aircrafts are L4s, and many of them at that, I am thinking about a WWII observer and liaison pilot training field...were they any specialised in this area of training?

[nacluv]

Wild stab - Bartow air base, FL?

[nacluv]

Or perhaps neaby Gilbert Field?

[cuefaye]

That'll be getting up LM's nose ----

[Cubs2jets]

Sorry for the slow reply - full day here.

The aircraft are NOT L4's. The activity is not liason pilot training. The field is neither Bartow or Gilbert.

The hangar/terminal building from which the picture was taken was erected by a famous aviation conglomerate that is still in business today. Eastern Airlines was an early regular at the field.

C2j

[India Four Two]

That looks like a beach to me. Is that the clue?

Bethune Point, Daytona Beach?

[Cubs2jets]

Not Rentschler and not at the beach. What kind of airplanes are they?

C2j

[asw22]

If they are not L4 they have to be J3 (I wonder how could we guess with the cockpits all covered in tarpaulins...You would have to see the tarpaulin is too short to cover the extended fuselage plexi of a L4 cockpit?).

Then it has to be related to the CPTP/WTS program, and many were the airfields with CPTP/WTS schools...

Could it be Rhode Island?

[Krakatoa]

Would the mast have any connection with radar antennas. During W2 Piper Aircraft's main contribution to the war effort was the construction of steel masts for radar antennas at Vero Beach.
Vero Beach Municipal Airport.

[Cubs2jets]

Piper had no connection to Vero Beach until the 1960's.

WTS flight school. The BIG clue is the name of the planes. Airport is still active, but the original 3 runways have been replaced by a single runway. Original hangar is still standing.

C2j

[TheiC]

I see now, that's cryptic even by my standards. Jim Hamilton LB Owens. OH if correct please.

[Cubs2jets]

Yes, The Jim Hamilton is a fairly recent addition to the official name of Owens Field KCUB in Columbia, SC. The aircraft - Piper J3 Cubs - are part of Hawthorn Aviations WTS program in conjunction with the University of South Carolina.

The hangar that the picture was taken from was built by the Curtiss-Wright Company.

http://www.rcgov.us/departments/countycouncil/Committees/Airport%20Commission/CWHangar/HistoricalPreservationPlan.pdf

C2j

Open House has been declared.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/J5C5-1390N33532e_zpscf10de60.jpg

[India Four Two]

Great challenge C2j. Thanks.

[Cubs2jets]

My pleasure. :)

C2j

[nvubu]

Here's the next challenge

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20130130a_zps0605dd33.jpg

[cuefaye]

Getting ever more tedious here - let's see challenges that are not simply vertical aerial shots (anyone can do that), but oblique, with challenging subjects. But then I'm probably out of order---

[nvubu]

I agree with your last sentence

Is this more to your taste?
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20130130b_zpse0838e20.jpg

[cuefaye]

That's being silly!

[nvubu]

It's the same place

[cuefaye]

You're right, but where's this?

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb59/malgrosse/efg_zps8129fc3e.jpg

[nvubu]

To quote from the very first post in the What Aerodrome Thread

Moderator note: In the interest of keeping this thread running smoothly please observe the following 'rules'.

- A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.

- The person who correctly idenitifies it will be declared the 'winner' by the original poster.

- That winner shall either post another challenge or declare the floor open. Anyone may then post the next challenge.

- There will only be one challenge running at a time.



So I guess my challenge needs to be completed first, before going to your "but oblique, with challenging subjects" image

A clue for you - the second photo was taken on 19th May 1980, and the clouds are a further clue.

[cuefaye]

OK - iawtr, I'll rescind Post 3325, but as for 3322----

A photo? Or a negative? Why?

Stand to be corrected though

[Lordflasheart]

I know where your's is Cuefaye (it was allegedly the place to avoid when you were trying to go somewhere else) but I'm still working on Nvubu's nasty bit of weather - someone hunting hurricanes ? LFH

[Cubs2jets]

Cumulo-mamatus.

Central US. Former military installation.

C2j

[India Four Two]

I agree with C2j. That's got to be in Tornado Alley. :eek:

Edited to try to narrow it down - North Texas or Oklahoma or Kansas?

cuefaye,

Nothing wrong with vertical shots as far as I am concerned.

[nvubu]

The clouds are nothing to do with the "weather", but very much the result of an earth bound event.

North Texas or Oklahoma or Kansas are on the wrong side of the country.

And yes, it was a former military base - B17 training.

[Lightning Mate]

North Texas or Oklahoma or Kansas are on the wrong side of the country.

Since they are central US, how can they be on "the wrong side of the country". :uhoh:

[nvubu]

My apology, not central, try the edges.

edit - too far south and too far east.

[chevvron]

Clouds could be the result of an above ground atom bomb test, or maybe a photo montage for a film ie a water based effect.

[nvubu]

Clouds are the result of a natural event - the date being the clue.

[Lightning Mate]

New Mexico or Arizona?

edit:

Clouds are the result of a natural event

Was that a volcanic eruption?

[Cubs2jets]

Well, the only thing that has happened like that is the Mt. St. Helens eruption. Sooo... Washington State or Oregon...

C2j

[nvubu]

Mt. St. Helens eruption & Washington State are both correct.

[nacluv]

Ephrata Municipal, WA.

OH if correct.

P.S. FWIW I don't have any objection to vertical air shots. It's all good...

[nvubu]

Ephrata Municipal, WA

nacluv has it - Open House has been declared

[nacluv]

Thanks, nvubu.

Actually I feel a little guilty about declaring open house, so I'll fix that straight away. I don't think this one has been done before:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/kwilson1965/Airfield1_zps71a9de18.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Far too easy mate - try another?

edit: "Abandoned & Little-Known Airfields"

[nacluv]

OK - final offer for today:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/kwilson1965/nacluv/Airfield2_zps12215fc9.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Your previous one was Leone was it not?
This one is just as easy.

[Lightning Mate]

Looks like Bohle River, Australia.

[nacluv]

Correct - humble apologies for not mounting a suitably challenging challenge...

[cuefaye]

Shouldn't this all get back on track? I know I was out of order, but c'mon.

Probably why sabredog slung his hook

[Lordflasheart]

I thought they were both pretty good challenges Vulcan - I'd still be looking. LFH

[India Four Two]

I thought they were both pretty good challenges Vulcan - I'd still be looking. LFH


nacluv,

Me too. You have to remember that WIWOL's know everything, or at least they claim to! ;)

[Lightning Mate]

Shouldn't this all get back on track?

Surely it is on track. Why did you say that?

[evansb]

sabredog was so good that some of us thought he was a hacker. It was a complement. He didn't see it that way. He left in disgust of our suspicions.

[Lightning Mate]

I'm more interested in cuefayes' last post:

Shouldn't this all get back on track? I know I was out of order, but c'mon.

[Lightning Mate]

I assume cuefaye is pissed off because he posted out of order and we didn't use his challenge.

Stick to the rules mate.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/where_zps3505989b.jpg

[evansb]

Pyote AAF base, Texas ?

[albatross]

Pecos Texas? If that is different from Pyote AAF as suggested by Evansb.

[Lightning Mate]

evansb has it. :ok:

Your turn.

[evansb]

Thank you. Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD130202_RWY_12.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

USA - high altitude?

[evansb]

Correct, and correct. Elev: over 4,000' above sea level.

[Duckbutt]

sabredog was so good that some of us thought he was a hacker. It was a complement. He didn't see it that way. He left in disgust of our suspicions.


I'm sure that sabredog would have got the latest challenge in his customary 12 or so minutes.......;)

[Lightning Mate]

If it's at 4118 ft., it looks like Eastern Sierra Regional Airport.

[evansb]

Yes, it is KBIH airport, in Bishop, California. Well done:ok:. Your turn.

[Lightning Mate]

Thankk you evansb.

Here's another.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/narone_zps1b5a6aa3.jpg

[chevvron]

Barford St John?

[Lightning Mate]

No, but you're in the right country.

[flyingwing]

St Eval? If so OH.

[Lightning Mate]

St. Eval it is flyingwing. :ok:

Open House has been called.

[BEagle]

As it's OH:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/aerodrome_zps820eb443.jpg

.

[BEagle]

A clue - it's associated with another aerodrome in a different part of the same country:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/aerodrome2_zps3383bc5e.jpg

The association being......??

[WE992]

Blake Hill Farm, Just to the west of Swindon. But I have no idea what the conection with the other airfield is or where it is.

[chevvron]

Cricklade, Glos is the first airfield, now the site of a tall radio/TV mast and not far from Blunsden Station on the Swindon and Cricklade Railway where you can book a course to drive a steam locomotive. Did you mean 'country' or 'county' for the other airfield? It looks a bit like High Ercall.

[WE992]

Blakehill Farm was easy I have flown over it loads of times. I don't think the second airfield is in Wiltshire though. I wondered if the connection is that both airfields were used to launch gliders for the D Day and Arnhem attacks.

[BEagle]

Yes, Blakehill Farm it is!

The other aerodrome is in what used to be known as the Principality of Wales, but is now more properly a country following ISO / BSI reclassification last year.

And the connection is post-WW2......

[Lordflasheart]

The association being......?? .............. Hansard ............. 1st May 1990 ........... :)


DEFENCE Radar Transmitter, Pembrokeshire

Mr. Nicholas Bennett : To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what factors dictated the location of the proposed over-the-horizon radar transmitter on the site of the former St. David's airfield, Pembrokeshire.
Mr. Alan Clark : The principal factors dictating the location of the proposed over-the-horizon radar transmitter were the need for it to be situated on broadly the same latitude as the receiver but separated by a substantial distance ; and the need to ensure that, together with the safety exclusion zone that surrounds it, it could be comfortably accommodated within the boundary of an existing MOD site without affecting other activities at that site. After a survey of 166 possible sites throughout the United Kingdom, St. David's airfield was selected as the only suitable location for the transmitter, in conjunction with the only suitable location for the receiver at Blakehill radio station, Wiltshire.


A subtle bit of enlightenment Mr Beagle. :ok: LFH

[BEagle]

Correct. The relocatable over-the-horizon radar was to have included a transmitter site at St. David's airfield and a receiver site at Blakehill Farm disused airfield. It was cancelled in 1991 due to pressure on the defence budget during GW1 and the post-Cold War dividend.

You have control, Lordflasheart, as your answer was the most complete!

[Lordflasheart]

...... as your answer was the most complete!

Aaaah - but I wouldn't have got Blakehill in a MoSs and only got St Davids because I was told it was in Wales. I would prefer to defer to the deserving winner WE992, unless he wishes to decline, in which case I will be pleased to pick up his OH. LFH

[BEagle]

Blond genug!

.

[Lordflasheart]

In any case ... he's a Prefect .... and .... I know my place.

[WE992]

Gents, Sorry for the delay I have just got home from that awful MOD office complex near Filton. It made my day to get one I have looked at this thread hundreds of times and the only ones I have ever known the answe to somebody has beaten me to it.

Its certainly Open House from me. Once again sorry for the delay.

[Lordflasheart]

Thank you chaps. Open house ? try this - LFH

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/Panther_zps27f2f850.jpg?t=1360108884

[Lightning Mate]

The Panther gave it away. ;)

Yonpo air base, North Korea.

[Lordflasheart]

I shudda 'shopped the Panther out but it was such a nice picture ! Yonpo it is - Hamhung, North Korea. Mid 1951 and hostile (again.) Well done.

The field was in allied (UN) hands the previous December, supporting the 1st Marine Division (and the British 41 Commando, Royal Marines) at Chosin - QV. Followed soon after by a big sea evacuation (or rearward advance) from the local port. Little change today - littered with small (training ?) aeroplanes.

Lightning Mate has control.

[asw22]

The small airplanes are Antonov An-2 1000 HP biplanes (liaison, transport, courrier, ag spray you name it!).
You have also a large bunch of them at nearby Sondok airfield (7 km SW Yonpo, much more recent), along with some Li-2 (this at least I assume them to be; they are russian copies of C-47) slowly and forlornly disintegrating...:(

[Lordflasheart]

Lightning Mate has control.

Hello - LM - Echo ... Echo ... Echo ....

Have you got something amazing for us sir, or would you like me to declare OH for you ? Cheers LFH.


PS. Well done WE992.

ASW22. Thanks for the aircraft ID - do you think they're ALL forlornly disintegrating ?

LFH.

[Lightning Mate]

My apologies gentlemen.http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/oldjob-2_zps77f1e865.jpg

[asw22]

To LFH: only the "Li-2" I think. The other ones vary in location and numbers with the dates and are still operational I think.

[asw22]

To LM:

Could it be Italian?

[Lightning Mate]

Not Italy.

Try the UK. ;)

[Krakatoa]

Maybe Scotland

[CharlieOneSix]

It looks like Longside otherwise known as Peterhead.

[Lightning Mate]

It does indeed doesn't it.

Nicely done - your turn. :ok:

[CharlieOneSix]

Thanks LM - try this one:

http://www.pprune.org/[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Mearns/airfield-8.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Mearns/airfield-8.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

We're back in northern Scotland.

I was stationed not too far from there, but I'll keep quiet........

[CharlieOneSix]

Good clue there, LM!

[Lightning Mate]

Yes - we used to use a bombing range there.

[CharlieOneSix]

A clue for your bombing range I think:

And feeling now this dream so right
That keeps on growing, night on night
The key you've yearned for from the start
To free this rose held in your heart.

[Lightning Mate]

:ok:.........

[Schiller]

Rosehearty?

OH if correct

[CharlieOneSix]

No, Rosehearty is the name of LM's bombing range......the subject airfield is close by though!

[Lightning Mate]

Never trust the Navy to know their way around! :E

Now it will get interesting.......

[ExAscoteer]

Cairnbulg, also known as Inverallochy?

OH if correct.

[CharlieOneSix]

Also known as Fraserburgh during WW2. Well done! Open House has been declared.

[Lightning Mate]

With all the clues I would have expected that to go more quickly.

[Lightning Mate]

Gorra nuvver one C16 ?

[Duckbutt]

Here's one:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz87_zpsfd8569eb.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Hello Db. :)

Bet you're glad to be out of Saudi! Have you been back long?

Challenge - looks European again or maybe Scandinavia or some such.

Very distinctive runway layout.

[Duckbutt]

Forgive me LM but I think you might be mistaking me for someone else as I've not been out of Lancashire for a while.

I will concede European or maybe Scandinavia or some such.

[Lightning Mate]

Well that's two Duckbutts then.

[Lightning Mate]

Can't find the name, but this looks like it.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Thisone_zpsaaa2ab9f.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Ahhhh....Bunge.

[Duckbutt]

Bunge it is. Back to you.

[evansb]

Where is Bunge? I'm too lazy to "google", just like you're too lazy to identify what state, province or country Bunge is located.

[ExAscoteer]

Bunge airfield is a privately-owned airfield situated just south of Fårösund on the northern part of the Swedish island of Gotland.

[Duckbutt]

Sorry, you're quite right. To expand Ascoteer's somewhat sparse summary:

Full address for ESVB: Bunge Flygfält,620 35 Fårösund,Sweden
Coordinates: north 575009, east 0190201.
The area is characterized by the three crossing runways. The runway surface is made of concrete and asphalt. There is no runway lighting or other approach or navigational aids on the airfield.
Runway headings: 030°/210°, 090°/270°, 160°/340°. Runway 03/21 is not in use due to poor runway condition.
Runway length 675 m, width 30 m
Apron in front of hangar: 100 × 40
Tower freq: 123.400
Airfield manager: Gert Martinsonn,
tel +46 498 22 11 12 (mob +46 702 15 30 00)

Current Metar: ESVB 090750Z 06003KT 9999 SCT035 M02/M02 Q1011 R03/79//35

[Lightning Mate]

Good afternoon/morning/evening gentlemen.

I'm afraid I'm busy so this will have to be OH.

[India Four Two]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/b77843d4a20437d1a9ca4cf79f1e7ce9_zpsec2f9a42.jpg

[Lordflasheart]

Is that "Hangar 2" at NAS Miramar - the "Fightertown USA" thing ? Now MCAS, I believe ? LFH

[India Four Two]

LFH,

As they say in the US, "Close but no cigar"

[evansb]

San Diego Naval Air Station, California ?

[India Four Two]

bri,

That's it - North Island. The caption to the photo says Concrete Landplane Hangars, San Diego Naval Air Station. Exterior arches reduced the amount of concrete required in the roof shell.

HyperWar: Building the Navy's Bases in World War II [Chapter 10] (http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/Building_Bases/bases-10.html)

I was amazed to discover when checking Miramar on GE to see if the same hangars were present there, that at least in the US, buildings are now in 3D. Here are the North Island hangars today:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/59b04d6d1c96f967c1a1b19475a9925c_zpsca48d5d9.jpg

evansb has control.

[evansb]

Ahh...the enduring nature of concrete. Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/96170_12380262281_zpsfcb8f103.jpg

[Boss Raptor]

Beja Portugal - with the new civilian side/apron/terminal clearly shown...about 2 years old now?

Fly past it regularly Faro to LON/UK

if so open house

[evansb]

Yes, Beja, Portugal. As requested, it is OPEN HOUSE.

[India Four Two]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WAD2013-02-12_zpscab94064.png

[Lordflasheart]

Holiday snaps from the Mysterious Orient ?

Do I see French Colonial Architecture ?

LFH

[India Four Two]

LFH,

Sorry to disappoint you - no and no. :E

[Lordflasheart]

OK, what about a tropical (non-French) Pacific paradise ? Less of the confidence, more of a distraction from the glum winter weather here in UK. LFH

(Next stop the Caribbean)

[India Four Two]

LFH,

50% - must try harder ;)

Tropical and non-French, but wrong ocean and definitely not paradise.

I would cancel the trip to the Caribbean, if I were you.

PS 35 C here today, same as always!

[evansb]

In the vicinity of Sao-Tome and Principe ?

[India Four Two]

Interesting choice, bri. This airport is not near São Tomé and Príncipe, but there is a connection.

[Lordflasheart]

Must be the Portuguese Connection then ? LFH

[India Four Two]

Está certo! :)

[seacue]

Portuguese India? Goa for example.

[India Four Two]

Go west, young man.

[chevvron]

West as in Zanzibar? (tongue in cheek by the way)

[India Four Two]

Not Zanzibar, but close to the right continent!

[nvubu]

How about Lumbo Airport, Mozambique?

Open House if correct.

[Lordflasheart]

reckon you got it hippo, well done . grrrrr.

[India Four Two]

Well done, nvubu. :ok:

Lumbo, it is.

I had never heard of Lumbo before, but discovered it by accident when I was looking at the city/island of Mozambique on Google Earth, after having watched the"Last African Flying Boat" documentary.


LFH, sorry -pipped at the post!


nvubu has declared Open House.

PS I learn something new every day. Nvubu is hippo in Uganda!

[Lordflasheart]

LFH, sorry -pipped at the post!

I wasn't within an african mile of the place.

Open House - Try this pretty picture - LFH

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/LFH022_zps69042ead.jpg?t=1360887248

[aviate1138]

Should I Trier little harder? :rolleyes:

[Lordflasheart]

Aviate - Errrr - yes please - :E Are you able to be a little more precise - It fooled me for a while and I had do some serious looking that I would not wish to give away too easily. LFH

PS anyone want to say how many aircraft involved in the picture ? As opposed to the number shown in the formal public title.

[India Four Two]

LFH,

I think aviate1138 has been drinking too much Moselle. ;)

Never mind the number of aircraft. What's the swept-wing job on the grass?

[Lordflasheart]

at a guess - MiG-15 ? Korean war trophy or 'come-over' perhaps ? The photos dated about 1955.

[aviate1138]

Wiki says

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/a/a1/20111229165022%21RF-80s_10th_TRW_over_Trier_Air_Base_1955.jpg

16 aircraft + photo aircraft

[Lordflasheart]

That's what I thought to start with AV8 - To be fair - you're probably close enough for Govt work but there are two Triers - twelve miles apart - this one and the other one :E Can you identify the correct one ?


16 aircraft + photo aircraft Well done :ok:- plus the ? MiG

[aviate1138]

The original Trier- Euren as Trier - Fohren began operating in 1977?

[Lordflasheart]

You got it AV8 - Well done - you have control.

WWI, WWII and then ALG Y-57 etc Down-town Trier.

Now an industrial estate - you can just make out the old runway along Hanns-Martin Schleyer Str.



http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/TrierAirBase-downtownTrier_zpsebf32a52.jpg?t=1360948643



GE ref for old Trier AB Lat & Long 49.72304,6.60126

[aviate1138]

Thanks LFH it has to be OPEN HOUSE.

BTW I notice the French Air Force were also based at Trier and I wonder if the swept wing fighter on the ground may be French?

[evansb]

Yes, it certainly does look like an early Dassault Mystere, much more probable than a Mig 15...

[Lordflasheart]

... may be French ?
Yes, it certainly does look like an early Dassault Mystere,

I wouldn't argue with that, much more logical. Got NK on the mind. Thank-you both.

Open House ? - try this - LFH

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/LFH21_zps8518ad8e.jpg?t=1360886966

[Lightning Mate]

Unmistakable skyline.

Looks like Dallas.

[Lordflasheart]

This is the only Dallas skyline I know -

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/ChezEwing_zps4e23a917.jpg?t=1361107387

Dallas it is - but which field - of many ? LFH

[nvubu]

With that water in the foreground - maybe Dallas Love Field?

Open House if correct.

[Lordflasheart]

Sorry chaps - out to lunch.

Dallas Love Field it is - 13R over Bachmann Lake

Nvubu had it for precision but said OH.

LM pointed us to the ball park - so I say -

Lightning Mate has control.

[con-pilot]

maybe Dallas Love Field?



No need for a question mark there, it is Love Field, as I've seen that view thousands of times.

[India Four Two]

A lot of Southwest rubber in the touchdown zone ;)

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning/evening.

Busy, so OH please.

[Lordflasheart]

Still Open House ?

Here's one for the Old Timers - LFH

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/LFH023_zps6a5ad9be.jpg?t=1360886965

[India Four Two]

Early Curtiss flying boats with Boy Scout hangars.

East coast US?

[Lightning Mate]

You're right - US Navy Florida.

[Lordflasheart]

Not East Coast - don't know about Curtiss - Florida's a big state - with lotsa water. - is it fresh or salty ? LFH

[Lightning Mate]

Well, I thought it was Pensacola.

[India Four Two]

LM, You thunk right. ;)

I guess it's a moot point whether Pensacola is on the East or South Coast.

NAS Pensacola 1914 - 99 years old!

Several Curtiss Model Fs and two Model Es. One of those is probably the first USN aircraft, serial A1.

[Lightning Mate]

.........:)

[Lordflasheart]

Pensacola it is - Well done. Apparently 1916. On what I believe is generally referred to as "the Gulf Coast."

I42 - A1 ? Is that a knowledgeable presumption or are you able to say which one is so marked ? If the latter, did you get it from another pic or from sharpening this one ?

I suspect the view below (1918) is in the opposite direction but possibly taken from around the same spot.

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/Pensacola1918_zpse170fb25.jpg?t=1361289124
Lightning Mate has control.

[India Four Two]

LFH,

I missed a hyphen. See here:
Curtiss Model E - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_Model_E)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/ScreenShot2013-02-19at231331_zps103c4306.png

Perhaps the second aircraft in your picture?

[India Four Two]

I've just found this marvellous video of a replica flying:
Curtiss A-1 TRIAD 2006 Seaplane Homecoming - YouTube

From what I've read and looking at the pictures, the original A-1 was " a headless E" in that it didn't have the canard foreplane, unlike the replica.

[Lordflasheart]

Thankyou Ifor.

Judging by the dates in your reference, the date of 1916 for my challenge might arguably be a bit off the mark. Saving the video for later. LFH

[Lightning Mate]

Open House again I'm afraid. :uhoh:

[MReyn24050]

Open House? Not that I think this will last long:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airportquiz062_zps2c9d6abd.jpg

[India Four Two]

Mel,

I saw this one the other day and thought, that would be a good one for What Aerodrome, but I can't remember the name!

Somewhere in the mid-west, judging by the section-line roads. Naval, I think.

[MReyn24050]

I42 not MidWest more westerly than that I would say and was not a Naval air Field. At the time the photograph was taken it was an Army Air Field.

[Lordflasheart]

There's an awful lot of aircraft parked up - best guess sofar is Kingman Arizona, but I'm not convinced. LFH

[MReyn24050]

Not Kingman Arizona LFH. This one was further North and Westward.

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Mel.

Might it be Oregon?

[MReyn24050]

Morning David. Not Oregon. This airfield is a bit further north.

[Lightning Mate]

Can only be Washington then.

I have open in front of me a database of all WW2 army air bases and nothing has come up for Washington.

Going back for a further look....

[Lightning Mate]

Is it Walla Walla ?

[MReyn24050]

It is in Washington State but not Walla Walla. The airfield has a different name to the one it had when the photograph was taken.

I see the "sticky" listing What cockpit, which Aerodrome etc has been removed.

[chevvron]

Would they be gliders lined up at the left hand end with tug aircraft parked either side of the runway?

[Lightning Mate]

Mel,

Do you know there are 552 airfields in Washington State?

:eek::eek:

[MReyn24050]

Would they be gliders lined up at the left hand end with tug aircraft parked either side of the runway?
Unable to confirm that the aircraft are gliders. However from the information I have the filed was under an Air Technical Service Command at the time the photograph was taken.

Do you know there are 552 airfields in Washington State?

:):) Not many like this one though. The airfield is I understand still USAAF active airfield.

[nacluv]

Geiger Field, now Spokane Intl?

[MReyn24050]

Not Spokane International, but very close.:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Lots of this fits...

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/567thSMS_AFB_SpokaneWashington_Google_zps8fd3be35.jpg

[MReyn24050]

That is the one David,:ok:::D. You have control

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Mel - an excellent challenge.

Now, are vertical aerials permitted here?

I know one person has objected in the past.

[cuefaye]

I know one person has objected in the past


Didn't object - just felt that they had to be realistic!

And BTW, there are 556 airfields in that State ---

[India Four Two]

And BTW, there are 556 airfields in that State


Bear in mind that Washington State is bigger in area than England and is 80% of the area of Britain!

[Lightning Mate]

Didn't object - just felt that they had to be realistic!

I'm not sure what that means. A photo is a photo, and the last one was not even on the internet.

As long as the OP regularly gives clues every one can be solved.

Open House.

[Russell Gulch]

Hmmmm...I must have saved this photo for just such an "open house" occasion. I hope this airfield hasn't been posted before :8 and I hope someone can remind me where it is! :\

Russ

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/868mick/wa78_zpsdc37fde3.jpg

[John Hill]

Red dirt and a GAF Nomad? Could be on the West Island of NZ.

[Max Tow]

Or a Shorts 360 in Kenya, perhaps?

[India Four Two]

John,

It couldn't be the West Island. CASA would never allow that rusty fuel drum. :E

[Russell Gulch]

Max Tow is correct, but which aerodrome?

Russ

[Russell Gulch]

This is the only other photo I have of this aerodrome. hopefully this will prompt my memory.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/868mick/wa77_zps4b5605b1.jpg

Another clue tomorow.

[Lightning Mate]

I've been through the complete list of airstrips in Kenya.

Three which might fit - Hola, Lamu, and Lewa.

Close?

[Lordflasheart]

Anyone got the FLY540 ATR-42 routes and schedules handy ? I'd look myself but LadyFH has other little tasks in mind for me today. ;) LFH

[Russell Gulch]

Yes, LM, you are close, you just have to decide.

Last clue: the very Moslem town that this aerodrome serves is reached by ferry from the aerodrome.

I was there in 1981, although not as pilot. Itwas then a lovely spot, like Diani Beach but better. No doubt now its all touristified.

The photos are not mine; shamelesssly stolen.

When you get the one of your three, please accept your control. I may be away for several days.

[Edit 4 hours later: you should have included Buffalo Springs in your choices, not that it's the correct one, but that it could have been). :8

Russell