Which Aerodrome Mk III

[ea200]

Nothing to do with pitches. Try line features.

[Self loading bear]

There is a snow covered rail track
apparently unused

[dook]

I've done my bit so I'll leave it to others now.

[ea200]

Well spotted SLB. It's not disused but it doesn't operate in winter.

[WIDN62]

How about Kufstein?

[Self loading bear]

Engadin

has a football pitch on west side

edit
aber ist in die Schweiz

[ea200]

Not Kufstein. Wrong river.

[ea200]

Not Engadin. Es ist in Osterreich.

[Self loading bear]

Mauterndorf?
(but no football pitch on Google)

[ea200]

Mauterndorf LOSM it is. The football pitch postdates the Google image. The railway line is narrow guage and runs steam trains and hauls timber in the summer. The airfield is the highest in Austria at 1110m amsl (for our continental friends). Well known gliding site due to mountain wave and ridge soaring conditions. Powered aircraft welcome in the summer. I understand that a few ski equipped aircraft operate in the winter. Friendly lot there.

SLB has control.

[Self loading bear]

Danke Zweihundert,

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1334x750/f394cf5d_0ab5_487e_84ac_31648fe9dcd5_53be738e5846c26cbebb753 0c2a2770a5f610b19.png
Zuerst ins Bedt!

[ea200]

Ik ook mijnheer.

[dook]

Goedemorgen.

Is that the river Rhein ?

Rotterdam ?

[Self loading bear]

No to both

[dook]

But Europe somewhere ?

[Self loading bear]

Absolutely!

I think you have to finish this up before Jenkins comes on line.

[dook]

Yes - then we'll get the crossword puzzle.

Germany ?

[Self loading bear]

No to Germany,


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1331x504/bf685420_b7bb_44bc_9c64_e13dbf359f36_0aa746f1b37dcc9cf8e801e 3846f086027d4a6b1.jpeg

[dook]

slb,

Please check your propeller rotation thread re. Hornet.

[JENKINS]

Early Finkenwerder?

[dook]

I'm not convinced about the UK.

[Self loading bear]

No finkenwerder
no UK

[sycamore]

Amsterdam 1920..?....... OH if correct...

[dook]

Buiksloterham ?

[Self loading bear]

Almost there,
It lacks the location and the year is wrong.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1236x579/b5de7c5a_296d_40f6_ad18_20949cb2baa9_8d59edf367e52b44c148cf6 d3c1040ddfdebd6f9.jpeg

[JENKINS]

1919 the year, location other than Amsterdam more difficult. There is an inlet of similar shape on the South side of the North Sea Canal, but no sign of an airfield or a name. One must hope that Her Majesty had a good day-out. I fear that LunaPark in Amsterdam North is as far as I can get.

Handley Page and Rolls Royce prominent!

[dook]

Buiksloterham still looks the part but like you I cannot find an airfield.

[Self loading bear]

My apologies,
I wanted a more precise answer as Amsterdam.
Dook’s Buiksloterham crossed with my post and is technically correct.
As that is a part of Amsterdam North.
The Temporary airfield was known under an other name.

[dook]

There is nothing further I can add to Buiksloterham and there seems to be nothing on the web about it.

[Self loading bear]

There is nothing further I can add to Buiksloterham and there seems to be nothing on the web about it.

Then I declare dook the winner.

ELTA
Eerste Luchtvaart Tentoonstelling Amsterdam
at the Papaverweg in October 1919.
generally regarded as the start of our KLM.
I wonder if they celebratie this under the umbrelka of their younger sister company.

Premises were later used for Fokker’s Nederlandse Vliegtuig fabrieken.

Jenkins already reverted to this at my Soesterberg challenge.

SLB

[JENKINS]

Whitchurch Bristol?

[dook]

That's the place JENKINS.

[JENKINS]

Thanks, but where has photographed moved? Lucky one that, I had been looking at Kings Cup Air Race. Now this which most definitely is in my logbook. Something of a 'Mickey Mouse'
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1551649097_e923d52ed15e402c7fb75e7bfd1a06c99f 8e2d8c.jpg
project which did not last very long.

[dook]

Re. my Whitchurch Bristol challenge.

I was in the process of modifying it because I discovered that it can be found on the internet. This did not happen when I first posted it having checked.

I came back to find you had identified it correctly so I didn't bother posting a new one.

I don't think it will affect the records that nvubu religiously keeps.

Is your challenge in the USA ?

[JENKINS]

Not USA this morning.

[dook]

I was pondering the Mickey Mouse comment.

Looking at that square it looks like the site for a future VOR installation, not that it helps.

Might have been TACAN though. Military ?

[JENKINS]

Not military, but Navaid used more for terminal rather than approach I believe. Don't discard so easily.

[chevvron]

Whitchurch Bristol?
Eh? No photo.

[dook]

I have explained that above. Please standby and I'll post it again for you.

Here it is.

http://i68.tinypic.com/ar4ft.jpg

[dook]

Are we thus somewhere in Europe JENKINS ?

[chevvron]

Orlando Sanford? (Mickey Mouse connection)

[JENKINS]

Yes, Europe without the UK, so not Orlando. The airline which created the need for my occasional presence at this field flew a British 4-engined machine.

[dook]

Well, it's not Germany so looking elsewhere.

[JENKINS]

Yes, not Germany.

[JENKINS]

My excursions to this spot were designed as low-cost access to ...........? As you may imagine with such a cachet, this field is on the wrong side of town for such access.

[sycamore]

Buzz is lightyears distant from Pontoise-Cormeilles....OH if correct
Mind you ,Jenks ,an RJ should have been capable of some of the grass airfields on the E of Paris...

[JENKINS]

That's the place, Debonair to a distant Paris Disney. Also used in my GA days while still in Royal Air Force. 'Twas but a 146 rather than an RJ Sycamore, but the rough strip potential was, to my mind, dreadfully under-sold. I felt the same in the matter of Skyvan versus Twin Otter.

Sycamore has declared OH.

[dook]

This may have been done before but no matter.

Dear to my heart and won't last long methinks.

http://i68.tinypic.com/63umg7.jpg

[kaikohe76]

If I remember correctly, Akrotiri had sand dunes, but possibly not that large.

[dook]

Agreed - they were not that big.

[ExAscoteer]

Tengah perchance?

[dook]

Not Tengah I'm afraid.

[JENKINS]

Perhaps the dunes at Valley on Anglesey might fit?

[dook]

They might well indeed but I think not.

[JENKINS]

Of course, who could love APC? That scrub in the foreground is surely not Great Britain, much as I believe you might have enjoyed the Fifeshire coastline, so I will disappear.

[kaikohe76]

Saudi Arabia possibly & an exchange visit to the Royal Saudi Air Force. I can`t remember just how long they had the Lightning, but you can answer that one I`m sure.

[ExAscoteer]

Kuwait maybe?

[dook]

There were no exchanges with the RSAF or Kuwait.

RSAF 1967 to 1986.

Kuwait 1968 to 1977.

[ExAscoteer]

So these are RAF FMk6s?

[dook]

Yes they are.

[ExAscoteer]

I'll take a punt on El Adem.

[dook]

Not Libya I'm afraid.

We never used that place.

[ExAscoteer]

I was under the impression that Lightnings staged through El Adem on the way East in 1966.

Oh well.

[dook]

In 1966 the F6 had not come into service.

[Bill Macgillivray]

Staging through Masirah, maybe?

[dook]

Bingo. 74(F) Sqn.

Please take the thread.:ok:

[chevvron]

Any takers?

[dook]

I've got two ready, but I posted the last one, so no.

[nvubu]

Here you go
https://nzrlbq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mmysJB6jRN7lqJk2Q3QLVe59EEXr8zsMuvKEzt0NA6RjHIsAyjt6GgXLTH VzI1MtIxOqasuTa5LrDym7fqLpiu_KV_ylybpJyn0aG_G2CaxPY_oAcDzc0p IDXdeB7Bea4EfxmEbEWxsxgJURWesietkWom78IZAKXZwA5YRPli5IJCYiMm N5hQdLfCDajXKmTtwxE0nqtIRyoxxqS13dERA?width=1024&height=667&cropmode=none

[Self loading bear]

That is yesterdays sun set in Holland.
And I do recognize the skyline also!
:)

[nvubu]

You had better take a stab at it then.

[Self loading bear]

Vickers Wellington
As being the only 2 engine bomber with radial engines, single tail and tail turret without top turret.

[nvubu]

Certainly is a Wimpy.

[Self loading bear]

Closing in,
found this interesting article in the Telegraph on line.
But no reference with the photo.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/856x748/bc2ba12e_43a2_40f0_aa79_444914cec0f4_038d68998c795f83d2144b7 c499e5cce3b71cf35.jpeg

[nvubu]

Is there a hangar in the background there?

https://oa9yqa.bn.files.1drv.com/y4md-CeoSXIAgpIh6RR7mux2CbYeJtElnnC46ed451W3ypqq85zSxAtDPFILJQiur AUmuMNEUz162PWnC46qQWXNuv-EG6WfsqENd-Ilb3M6g4Ad4kfmznR-JmfMX8YItAX9yCwhw-bD3tz31ptO5ecf65h0bDl7nbcP8gBupKvfbBR8v9jmfTsP16PNzNcBkLkyq_ WW5vPMEJPx-8kQlksqw?width=1024&height=693&cropmode=none

[dook]

I presume the Wimpys and the hangars are at the same airfield.

[dook]

Goggled "ww2 raf wellingtons on ground at night".

A pic suggests 149 Sqn Mildenhall. A Google of Wellingtons at Mildenhall brings up the challenge pic and confirms the airfield

…........I hope.

[nvubu]

A Google of Wellingtons at Mildenhall brings up the challenge pic and confirms the airfield

Not my challenge picture it doesn't

However it is Mildenhall, so over to you dook - these are some of my pictures.

https://z7f7wa.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mqjUjUJivemRajUu55DZsbmgCh2gH0EyAXqulvKoKr9Eq1wqXbVw7ndEJp AgE4JONZ_9aUEZWohKb-XhOdbdvH8x1r_V8ofWtM-rrjDkH_2P7pRwIpPD8bhXpNDgmd49MmMqT6L9V6HYE6zGjT73TUKMkr_2ucw WAuqH0X0CTdUZXndj5WK_0XNV_0544eERvnh_84a3-TbB32UZusGX2gg?width=660&height=446&cropmode=none

https://2spcea.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mSqO_eXjcZLttyi85Co8klIfrGATYXkb1aZLTR1xEuD2LMWh4flh3Gychp ZmAkziUquWW4JGHAXFitTLtRUVW2FJHAwqe1QWeIFDwmMIc5KUW_tJN-4E3IOClZ5hxhFj7FZEbjiN9FIwiG63TKUZ5L_YZPop0eaOW60ReaHylLFmfW 2Xte_53YcM42MVZYsa1G4g2Zs5EPBfqVsYcEnpb9A?width=660&height=446&cropmode=none

https://bvjb7q.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mVpT-SwU-qn_NE9FXE-Ton3py6mBiJNhErh_9JU9RDEbSppNPbGr-iGpA6M6_Gfwdd2URkJOoEe_jhD69pTFg_nhHMZk-9f6B-vuSjwvquL1Q9eMZm7fe4c0KqgXIc8Tjo4AE9prCtxzBuWSqog0G7vj_utd3o imiEDuoCIg81ciGIsgli7Q1Jiix3gwl--sQitnI-RTAR_g55CcrI5ovUw?width=660&height=442&cropmode=none

The first picture holds a big clue.

[dook]

"ww2 wellingtons at Mildenhall"

On my browser it's on the fourth line down.

"Men of No. 149 Squadron RAF beside a line Vickers Wellington medium bombers at Mildenhall. #WW2"

[nvubu]

Yes - but it isn't my challenge picture - it's a random image of Wellingtons that SLB found and posted, that just happened to be at Mildenhall :(

[dook]

Oops - RTFQ !!

That must be a first - picking up someone else's image to find the right place.

Do you wish to give it to SLB instead ?

[Self loading bear]

Dook,

you can take it.
I could not find a reference to the telegraph photo.
i only Google at sunset and at dawn and not at night.

SLB

[nvubu]

Definitely a win for dook - and yes I think it's a first - of all my luck :)

My pictures are all from Target for Tonight, with F from Freddie - you can watch it on Amazon Prime at the moment.

[dook]

Well, thank you.

http://i64.tinypic.com/aay6gi.jpg

[chevvron]

Birmingham Elmdon?

[dook]

Well, I think I'll give up.

Nicely done chevvron. Birmingham 1939.

Lights....music....curtain....you're on.

[chevvron]

Sorry been out; Open House.
I visited there twice in '74; first time was in an Apache (Piper NOT Westland) and we parked near to where the photo was taken, second time a few months later to re-sit an ATC exam in a wooden hut just out of shot to the left.

[JENKINS]

Open House, try this. One visit, 1970, my landing dreadful.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1549228603_350e3b7ea26b7d2aa0306de8f0b7977547 29be19.jpg

[jensdad]

Evening, JENKINS. Should I start the narrowing-down process with Germany? (the Western bit as I doubt you'd be landing in the Eastern bit in 1970!)

[Self loading bear]

GA and military combined?
Probably a semi circle with fighter stands at the right upper end?
Otherwise the taxi way would be on the wrong side)
France?

SLB

[JENKINS]

Not Germany. Mostly military, apparently still active, and certainly not France - unlikely to play cricket.

[sycamore]

Italiano....?

[JENKINS]

Indeed it is Italy. Not a good time for Italian cricket, but cycling is the current sporting interest in this area.

[jensdad]

Would it be a country where German, French or Italian are spoken? Or possibly all three? :)

[JENKINS]

No, not up there. Very definitely Italian alone, and what a lovely language on the ear. Wish I could speak it.

[JENKINS]

Cricket over, far too quickly, bedtime. Fiat C.R.32 relevant. More tomorrow.

[jensdad]

No, not up there. Very definitely Italian alone, and what a lovely language on the ear. Wish I could speak it.
Mi dispiace, I missed your comment that 'Indeed it is Italy'. Wikipedia tells me that the CR.32 made its maiden flight from Turin.
I'll take a punt at Caselle, but I'm not optimistic.

[Self loading bear]

Military Airport of Grosseto Corrado Baccarini, Italia

OH if correct

SLB

[dook]

And to think I have also been there !

Mind you, I don't remember it from 1970. :\

[JENKINS]

Yes to the Dutchman. Baccarini refers to an Italian in the Spanish Civil War who came of worst in a flight in his own C.R. 32. No politics please, my Welsh Socialist background would emerge too strongly.

I certainly cannot remember the field from 1970. I imagine it was F104 rather than G91. Gino, what a pretty little machine.

[dook]

Agreed,

Eessa Geeno.

[Self loading bear]

I declared OH
Today i have no time to host a challenge
6 sport games over 3 sports to attend today.

SLB

[dook]

Ball rolling again.

http://i66.tinypic.com/maw5qq.jpg

[India Four Two]

The building looks Canadian to me.

[dook]

I'm intrigued, but you are correct.

[sycamore]

Uplands or Rockliffe...?

[dook]

Neither I'm afraid.

If you can identify the aeroplane it might help.

[sycamore]

Thought it might be Benny Howards DGA-6 `Mr Mulligan`, ,probably not..

[dook]

You are correct in that it isn't (look at the wingtips) but an excellent guess nevertheless. However, it is famous.

[JENKINS]

Getting nowhere but enjoying the search.

[JENKINS]

Question - is the fame related to the aircraft, pilot, or both?

[dook]

Basically the pilot - sadly.....

[JENKINS]

Thanks. I am aware of an aircraft, once flown by a very famous pilot, but crashed, fatally, by another. Lunch now.

[dook]

This pilot wasn't famous in the normal sense that we would consider and only became so in a rather macabre way after leaving this airfield.

[chevvron]

'Wrong way' Corrigan at Floyd Bennet Field?

[JENKINS]

I was thinking of Jacqueline Cochran as the first pilot.

[dook]

India Four Two got the right country - not USA.

Has anyone identified the aeroplane type ?

[sycamore]

Stinson Reliant (straight wing)....

[dook]

Monocoupe 90A.

Pilot was male and was attempting to deliver the aeroplane.

[ea200]

Charles Backman, Gander. Courtesy of Google!

[dook]

And we have a winner.

Gander 1939.

All yours. :ok:

[ea200]

Thanks dook. The aircraft type was the clue as you said. When I first saw it I thought it was a Luscombe but realised it wasn't. Now I know that Don Luscombe designed the 90A!
OH

[India Four Two]

Fascinating but sad story:

Gander Airport Historical Society (http://www.ganderairporthistoricalsociety.org/_html_thirtys/Backman.htm)

[JENKINS]

Perhaps after a decent interval of OH, anyone fancy this? One visit, Royal Family, boot full of Coca Cola. I hope consideration may be given to a particular dictionary.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1552248978_73e475783a1fcdf52c184b605a7ec2922d f8380c.jpg

[dook]

…perhaps after a decent interval of OH....

The "non-regulars" won't like that after about four and a half hours.

[kenparry]

Back to Gander:

About 30-40 years ago, there was a superb collection of photos on a mezzanine floor in the terminal, of aircraft that had passed through, with particular emphasis on the 1930s. The abiding theme was "He departed Gander on (insert date) bound for (insert European destination) and was never seen again...…………………….."

Perhaps too ominous for nervous passengers about to cross the Atlantic. The last time I stopped there, about 1991, the terminal had recently been redeveloped and the photos had gone. I do hope they have been preserved somewhere appropriate.

[kenparry]

Jenkins: Middle East somewhere?

[JENKINS]

No to Middle East. Sorry somewhat dilatory this morning, delayed. Short drive in the 'dead ground' which Fred would have used before leading his Chipmunks into the display.

[Max Tow]

Marrakech? Not so sure about the clues though? OH if correct.

[JENKINS]

Yes to Marrakech, because, of course, there is 'Hope,' Bob, that like Webster's Dictionary We are Morocco Bound.

OH declared.

[dook]

Might be a quiet day.

Any non-regulars around ?

[Self loading bear]

Back to Gander:

About 30-40 years ago, there was a superb collection of photos on a mezzanine floor in the terminal, of aircraft that had passed through, with particular emphasis on the 1930s. The abiding theme was "He departed Gander on (insert date) bound for (insert European destination) and was never seen again...…………………….."

Perhaps too ominous for nervous passengers about to cross the Atlantic. The last time I stopped there, about 1991, the terminal had recently been redeveloped and the photos had gone. I do hope they have been preserved somewhere appropriate.

You mean the Atlantic Wings Collection as till 2001?
It has been moved.
CBC news (https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3063236)

[kenparry]

SLB:

My memory is just of a collection of photos, not the other exhibits that your link shows, and it had gone from where I saw it at YQX well before 2001.

[dook]

If Open House is declared, regular posters should not jump in immediately, but time should be given for those who are not great at naming the correct location as they may have some good images.

Does anyone feel we should remove this from "the rules " ?

[Self loading bear]

Does anyone feel we should remove this from "the rules " ?

No, not at all, keep it as it is.
Please note that this rule is not bound by the 2x24 hours.
So 4,5 hrs of Jenkins can be enough.

As OH has been called quite much lately, then I think the waiting time can be taken shorter.
There have been plenty of opportunities to jump on the wagon at any time of day.

If we have had a long string of non OH we must remember this rule.

(just my opinion)

So go Ahead if you have any ready.

SLB

[dook]

The problem is that no timescale is stated.

It seems that "non-regulars" by definition hardly ever post anyway.

I do have some ready but...…..

[dook]

OK - standby...…

http://i66.tinypic.com/qy73us.jpg

[chevvron]

Luton Airport?
I was gonna suggest Rearsby due to the number of high wing types visible but I don't think it is.

[sycamore]

Marrakech...had a near-death experience there,`bushy-topped trees` are really just `bushy-topped bushes` in the desert..

Deffo Luton...learned to fly there courtesy of the lovely Elizabeth O....!!

[dook]

Luton it is.

Top banana for chevvron.

[chevvron]

Open house again.
Suppose I should have said 'not the original Luton Airport' ie Barton.

[Self loading bear]

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/742x328/acf2287c_d0c4_4b48_b172_b69932a9f126_027f70797ee4bdb1fb7618a 30730c7fb3d38b432.jpeg
I think I can give the clue that by the looks of the flags, it is an international airport.

SLB

[dixi188]

Is that two Danish flags on the right. Trees on a hill in the background with Nordic looking house.
How about Copenhagen?

[oldandbald]

It isTHE Luton Airport not Barton. Old Farmhouse/ Directors House/ then Freds Bar in the middle

[Self loading bear]

Not Copenhagen

[evansb]

Antwerp, Belgium ?

[Self loading bear]

Antwerp, Belgium ?

sorry not Belgium either

[jensdad]

That building in the Left background looks familiar. I'm sure I've seen it in another historical photo somewhere. Could it be Budapest Ferihegy?

[Self loading bear]

Not Budapest
Would this help?

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1274x600/98298571_a667_46a5_9480_d7495ec9921e_47064a871ff09f4d21143b6 d028af5b4314692cd.jpeg

[chevvron]

Le Bourget?

[dook]

dixi188 asked if the flags are Danish.

I've looked more closely and they look Swedish to me.

[dook]

Googled "sweden flygplats b29" and a slightly cropped same image comes up but it doesn't tell me where it is. :(

[Self loading bear]

I think the Swedish and Danish flags can look quite the same in black and white photography.
But I can also see Greek flag and Poland in the front and a number of vertical tricolores which can be Italy, France, Ireland, Belgium etc.
So leave the flags.

[dook]

I have persisted with the flags in Photoshop.

This looks good:

http://i63.tinypic.com/2gxhbvr.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Dook has control
Bromma Stockholm
First international Airfield with paved runways from its opening.
Degraded to GA airport with the arrival of the jet airliners because the runway was too short.
I think the B-29 could have only visited as it had no bomb load.
Nowadays again some international connections.

Not much changed as Terminal is protected historical building.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x980/2889aa33_7f79_4074_aecc_8cfa0b16b66d_a2f6ba5db0a993cf3170a77 6182c539cc6adeb64.jpeg

[Self loading bear]

That building in the Left background looks familiar. I'm sure I've seen it in another historical photo somewhere. Could it be Budapest Ferihegy?

Jensdad,
The historical building is still there,
Now Pelgrims hotel.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/773x661/790269c4_d7c8_4fa0_94b3_029399fc49b6_fb40f01893c608f71c643ce b1743b6bf34074536.jpeg

[dook]

Thank you Slb - a good one.

http://i68.tinypic.com/4j6ygy.jpg

[sycamore]

Moved to France...?

[dook]

Unfortunately we have not.

[clareprop]

I think we're in the USA with that windmill?

[dook]

Now we're moving.

[Self loading bear]

Luckily the USA is only a small country

[dook]

Start to make it smaller then.

[Self loading bear]

We split the states: Is in Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico or West of those?

[sycamore]

Probably `where the wind comes whistling up your shorts`....ok

[dook]

Slb - none of those and to the east of them.

sycamore - if you mean Oklahoma it's not there either.

[jensdad]

Jensdad,
The historical building is still there,
Now Pelgrims hotel.

Ah, that might be where I've seen it then. Great challenge :)

[Self loading bear]

Wisconsin, Illinois, Missouri, Arkansas Louisiana or west of these?

[sycamore]

Looks a bit dry...Texas...?

[dook]

You should both go east.

[Self loading bear]

Tennessee, North Carolina or south of these?

[dook]

North of North Carolina - not many left.

I feel a better clue is in order.

[sycamore]

Wot`s it look like now....?

[dook]

It no longer exists but was ship-shape in its' day.

A school is now on the site.

[sycamore]

Are `we` in Virginny...?

[dook]

Now go north - or better still NNE.

ship-shape and...…..

[JENKINS]

Bristol fashion in Vermont.

[sycamore]

Providence ,RI,-go SE-Bristol area,,several schools,nursery,etc...?

[dook]

JENKINS as grabbed the clue.

Bristol, Vermont.

Over to you.

[JENKINS]

Thanks, lovely clue. Lots of that name in USA. Now this, one of my airline destinations.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1552137986_5fbe3d5a9b9cc1b49a4342740bca30ed5d 940de4.jpg

[JENKINS]

Bedtime now out here.

[jensdad]

I'm kind-of breaking my self-imposed rule of not using Google Earth here, in the sense that a few years ago I spied this airfield from a flight to Malta. Not having a clue where it was, I scoured Central Italy on GE to find out.

Anyway, I'm rambling. Perugia. :)

OH if correct.

[JENKINS]

That is it, 'Between the Seas.' A silly destination, but the owner of the airline , I was told, lived there. Cycling across the middle on TV this week, exciting and visually gorgeous.

OH declared.

[dook]

Good afternoon/morning/evening.

The orientation in NW to top.

http://i63.tinypic.com/28v50t3.jpg

[sycamore]

Looks like a `croppie` strip...Canada ,or USA...?

[dook]

No crop sprayers here.

USA

edit: and I did not get this image from GE.

[Self loading bear]

I guess again an http://www.airfields-freeman.com/ ??? (http://www.airfields-freeman.com/)

I scanned about half of the pages yesterday.
Not planning to do that again

[dook]

I'm not going to pay to access that site but since it lists all the states it will be there somewhere.

[sycamore]

I`d say ,with that surface,it is probably somewhere hottish and dry ,then cold and dry,like Idaho,Dakotas,Montana...???

[dook]

So which one are you going for ?

[sycamore]

Eeny,meeny,miney,mo...Idonno,...ho

[JENKINS]

And there it is, Broadus, Montana. Never travelled there, but my son has occasional visits through work and loves it. Maine seems more my sort of place, by Islander of course!

[dook]

JENKINS gets a missile off the rails.

Broadus Montana it is.

[JENKINS]

Thanks, small place but considerable history. This time Open House, will not be able to monitor tomorrow morning.

[India Four Two]

Here's an airport I've driven past but never flown into.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/29060696_880932998756872_4061165933343901787_o_73ec90da82adc 7bc05de84668f1b49a998753101.jpg

[dook]

Canada military ?

[India Four Two]

No to both guesses. :)

Correction. This is a publicly-owned airport. A few military helicopters are based there, but not Blackhawks.

[dook]

That's one guess down in flames then.

Second shot - USA ?

[India Four Two]

Correct, but it's a big country.

Obviously west of the Mississippi and I'l give you a clue - not near Canada.

[dook]

New Mexico ?

[India Four Two]

Bravo Zulu. I’ll be cross if you don’t get it!

[chevvron]

Groom Lake? (and its famous 'black helicopters')

[India Four Two]

Sorry chevvron, that’s in NV, not NM. Besides, you can’t just casually drive by Groom Lake!

When I found this picture, I thought I had made a mistake about military presence, but it turns out this was just a temporary “Texan invasion”. :)


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1301x442/89cf8a7f_893d_41f3_b5cb_1f9f5c4b4ea2_2c939074a39ae30f0e0f4ee 3346b4498f8e32c00.jpeg

[dook]

Are you hinting at the USN or national guard ?

[India Four Two]

The Texans are USN on what sounds like a “summer camp”. The based helicopters are NMANG.

[dook]

That leads me to Kirtland Air Force Base, but I think it's taking me up the garden path.

[Self loading bear]

Four corners
Farmington

OH if correct
SLB

[dook]

I've tried Sierra Blanca but that doesn't look right either.

[dook]

How about Las Cruces ?

A helicopter unit with the Army National Guard is slated to get a new hub west of Las Cruces

National Guard's C Company, 3rd Battalion, 140th Aviation Regiment, which operates and houses four UH-72 Lakota helicopters at the Las Cruces International Airport.

[sycamore]

Too many spooks in black trucks to allow photos at Kirtland...
Following the mountains and river S we come to Las Cruces International...
OH if correct.....

ed.shoot.!....,dook got there....

[dook]

^^^^^^^^.....

[Self loading bear]

Air national guard Lakota helicopters at Santa Fe Municipal airport.

OHiC
SLB

[India Four Two]

How about Las Cruces? I would say well done.

Sorry sycamore, dook completed his attack while you were still running in!

Las Cruces International Airport KLRU, just west of the city. Virgin’s Spaceport is just north of Las Cruces. Here’s a picture that was going to be my next clue. White Knight Two, doing a “low and over” at Las Cruces:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x425/a644f246_a1f0_4ce3_a4e4_d0d6deab3643_531584ab1345ac7fb28a7f1 2de6482a6134241fe.jpeg

dook has control.

[dook]

Thank you India - a good one and fortunate to hit the right state.

In true historic fashion may I offer you this.....

http://i64.tinypic.com/2iafpew.jpg

[dook]

Right country, wrong state.

[evansb]

Thanks, but I withdrew my answer.

[evansb]

Ok, I think I found it. Buckingham AAF, near Fort Myers, Florida. It was a "Flexible Gunnery School" during WW.II.

[dook]

Good thinking. :ok:

Buckingham it is.

Your trigger.

[evansb]

Thank you. Quite a number of WW.II US Army airfields were built in a similar configuration. It was the taxiway that gave me trouble and was the final clue to the mystery.

Here is the next challenge:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1068x801/xflwks8_c8c8a19f026020d0efc04652cbe67e700baef50c.jpg

[dook]

The unmistakable asymmetric fin flash of the Mexican F5E one of only eight, done that way because symmetry would have required it to be forward facing. And a Tiger jobber (they only had two F5Fs) to boot.

Looking.

[dook]

Might it be Santa Lucia ?

PC7s were also based there.

https://www.defenceaviation.com/.../history-of-the-mexican-air-force-1945-2012.html (https://www.pprune.org/left=https://www.defenceaviation.com/2013/10/history-of-the-mexican-air-force-1945-2012.html)

[evansb]

dook is correct. Your control.

[dook]

Many thanks evansb.

I had some camera-gun film tracking an F5 but I lost it many years ago (it was a USAF one though).

Aircraft ID will find this quickly methinks.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2c0ahw.jpg

[Kemble Pitts]

East Germany? Rechlin Larz?

[dook]

Not Germany I'm afraid.

[Self loading bear]

Same SU-27 found?
Belly Landing 2014

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1280x960/f662c530_d70d_4de7_8799_ae921f26b3cc_c6e18dcc6a6c55edea7817e 51489b41f050bd4e4.jpeg
Tsentralnaya Uglovaya
Primorsky Krai Russia

OH if correct

SLB

[sycamore]

That`s a 2-holer,not a singly....

[Self loading bear]

I see
and I suppose they do not grow over time?

[dook]

Sycamore is correct in that the challenge is a single-seater.

Slb - we're not in Russia.

[Self loading bear]

Lotnisko Kluczewo Poland

SLB

[dook]

Excellent.

Kluczewo it is.

Your stage.

[Self loading bear]

Thanks Dook,


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1550/24a908f8_6c54_4bfd_8922_14e4ef209593_7e773045d11d1b9e6e255f6 0bb4ea982897ef1f9.jpeg

[Cows getting bigger]

London Gatwick?

[dook]

I was thinking Eindhoven.

[Self loading bear]

London Gatwick?

sorry, I have been out for sports.
Cows scores an Ace.
London Gatwick from the high bridge.

SLB

[Cows getting bigger]

Sorry for the tardiness, been off-line. The two aircraft you can see are from the same Air Force.....

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4286/35452316780_a6a1c5d9db_c.jpg

[sycamore]

Saudi...Al`s-Garage.....

[JENKINS]

Perhaps Musannah, just down the road from a proper strip - Rostaq of course.

[Self loading bear]

Not much countries with C17 and (I think) A330 mrtt.
I stab at UAE Al Ain.

[mgahan]

This is a real stab in the dark as the system here will not download the picture but looking at the clue and the answers - how about Al Dahfra or Minhad?

MJG

[jensdad]

I know that this not the 'Which Air Force' thread, but I will take a guess that the Royal Air Force are the operators of the two aircraft.
As to Which Aerodrome? Haven't a clue :)

[UV]

Oman, Muscat, Seeb?

[Cows getting bigger]

RAF is correct, but nobody has hit the correct country yet.

[dook]

Perhaps we're west of the Red Sea.

[sycamore]

King Hussein Intnl,Aqaba,Jordan......OH if correct

[Cows getting bigger]

sycamore has it, Aqaba. You don't want to drift any further to the left or you're in Israel. Anyway, I believe it is OH.

[dook]

Here we go then.

http://i64.tinypic.com/30vkr9e.jpg

[JENKINS]

Never landed there. Hollandia?

[dook]

I'm sure you've never landed there and a great find - dunno how you did it.

Hollandia it is, and I think they are Ki-46 aircraft.

Your thread.

edited to add aircraft type.

[JENKINS]

Thanks. My route to Hollandia and similar is, cryptic of course, through a source linked forever in British minds to the recce task, and may also take in washing machines.

Now this. Never heard of it until the area popped up in a Google game played by my daughter and family. Strange name which upon reflection makes complete sense. I am open for questions, and furiously considering my devious answers.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1546013836_187a6ab4b1dda2a75debf58d30b29c64c0 e1cdd1.jpg