Which Aerodrome Mk III

[Kemble Pitts]

An easy one for you.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/485x451/capture_db2257681b0257dab23f722cf2087e761f7abd25.png

[dook]

They're all easy when you know where it is innit.

UK maybe.

[Self loading bear]

Stow Maries
near Maldon

[dook]

KP is obviously having a problem getting back here, but there are no doubts that you are correct Bear.

Why don't you post a new one.

[Self loading bear]

We are not in a hurry,
but if we have consensus from multiple posters, I have something ready.

[dook]

We don't need multiple posters. You are correct with no doubts.

[chevvron]

We are not in a hurry,

I am. Even though I don't know much about non UK airfields, I still like to see if I can guess them.

[Self loading bear]

Chevvron settles it.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1334x750/d1930b64_d084_4146_ab6b_cbdf2c5a3bae_cef78f72baf9bb1b8db1edd fcd2a82ac4dcf240c.png

[jensdad]

The tiny snippet of countryside at extreme left says 'North West Europe or British Isles' to me. Other than that, I have no clue!

[Self loading bear]

Northwest Europe is correct.
Although the 4 Aircraft are of same type, the second will bring you the furthest!

[jensdad]

The lightning-flash markings look like Royal Canadian Air Force. Could it be one of the RCAF bases such as Lahr?

[dook]

Or Jagel...….

[Self loading bear]

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/650x490/be9fbf70_e5c6_4038_8e0d_f662e16011a4_45a61aeeed532e553a9d445 1e2f863a4d8e7e1a7.jpeg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1074x632/bf9fb864_4a1c_47a7_afbe_8e73a210dc08_1407ad0e74980ceddd27041 0b1d44cfb8be06ebd.jpeg
Not Lahr nor Jagel

[dook]

You said northwest Europe so you must mean France and not UK.

[Self loading bear]

I understood the Brexit is still not a fait-accompli?

[dook]

Remaining non-nuclear armed units in France were repositioned to Marville, and RCAF Station Grostenquin closed in 1964.

Must be one of them.

Brexit ?

British members of parliament are stinking rats.

[Self loading bear]

Europe will consider your post as a request for extension which We will take into consideration.
In the mean time we await your further struggle to solve this problem.

Does that sum up current Brexit and Which Aerodrome situation?

[dook]

I have already said above it's either Marville or Grostenquin.

More likely the latter.

[Self loading bear]

Naming two Aerodromes is one too many.
your latest post however choses the correct one.
GrosTenquin it is.

[dook]

Naming two Aerodromes is one too many.

No it isn't.

[dook]

Next one then.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x286/late_b4fb19b11935190ad4696c45112fb6bc42ad9c4d.jpg

[chevvron]

The ORPs look RAF style and the forest looks German - Laarbruch?

[dook]

Go a long way east to a land of spicy food.

[nvubu]

Hindan Air Force Station.

[dook]

Nicely done nvubu.

Hindan it is.

Your service.

[nvubu]

Thank you very much - the clue was a bit of a giveaway.

And for the next mystery
https://jvtpea.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mD9UVIPxhM3cOS49ubgngFlfm_HlHCfdrcMWMsNqSYyRAGyGpGZl4Cefzu MhLc6e65QG2WQIp8UIf_B_FeuSphmmuhvQO4QkVaHe-aACpB3HcwjVFs-ZUrOYeoISCKMOWHnOjK4FDip7ILp_KWzyqd1PqmabF5ziigkGZzhQmd7ClF0 JHALrT651ZkP6VuQdE15ivDWH4G2x_TJq-5RwMHg?width=1024&height=795&cropmode=none

[dook]

Clues are supposed to help and be useful. :)

[dook]

I think that might be the 864th Bombardment Squadron B-24 "Ruptured Duck" at Barking Sands.

Courtesy of the National Archives and Records Administration.

This is the site:

ManaAirfield-BarkingSandsAAFB-BonhamAFB-PMRF-Aviation on Barking Sands(3) (1)

[nvubu]

You didn't need any clues, such as Barking up the wrong tree etc.

You are correct Barking Sands it is.

[dook]

Thank you kindly.
I started by finding which outfit had that fin marking and took it from there.

I'm intrigued as to where you obtained the challenge, because to use the one I found would have required more chopping at the bottom than yours.

This is not a GE image.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x383/monday_1a75e2c9c66ff5a42cdd4f828aa6fff120e39466.jpg

[nvubu]

Hmmmm... have to take care with the aircraft markings in future. I should have started with this one :)

https://mpnw0g.bn.files.1drv.com/y4meVC_W3vywubqg3vC4LrLqhDH6zdv-dzSq1sFN-KKW0g6yTJY7rmedm7HOGCxnrgHLh4uJR3X3QZLOrD6v88oPFDiIEzIFgWqym 6PqJtgzYAhkNY439HlLdtHi8OiiORg7Qa7uEBICxX657SWRwaY2WclG0EJUA mPcpdU7nSvaTJOUkspG5rSa2ceOgLVZO7WPUckddG3Hb_aJv-qOBelNg?width=660&height=443&cropmode=none

I'd guess yours is Warsaw pact?

Anyone fancy a "Name that Plane" thread?

[dook]

I would really love a "Name that Plane" thread, but could we please make it "Name that Aircraft". We could then include various flying machines.

If you wish to know why feel free to PM me.

Your revised image doesn't appear in the site I gave above.

Mine was indeed Warsaw Pact and the challenge may not last much longer methinks.

[nvubu]

Your revised image doesn't appear in the site I gave above.

I know, I checked it. :ok:

I liked the alliteration of "Name that Plane".

[Flap40]

OK, her's your first plane to identify...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x700/10992_01_1000_d3013bc4e5b4da954be2f96359cd278dfda91c45.jpg

[dook]

Well said Flap40 - I couldn't agree more.

I hope nvubu now realises what I was saying.

[Self loading bear]

That is a planer
With which you create a smooth plane.

may I suggest:
A plain game for an aircraft name

[Flap40]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planer

Hand powered = Plane. Mechanically powered = Planer.

[dook]

Language translation again. In English it is a plane.

We shall soon have to define the difference between aircraft and aeroplane.

[Flap40]

There isn't one. An Aeroplane, or Airplane for those on the other side of the pond, is an Aircraft as is a baloon, airship and glider (and if you believe our CAA, as is a hovercraft).

[Self loading bear]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planer

Hand powered = Plane. Mechanically powered = Planer.

Thanks if you feed plane into google translate it doe not come up with that.

[nvubu]

Thread started here (https://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/626547-name-flying-machine.html#post10600050)

[dook]

Already NB'd and first guess posted.

[Allan Lupton]

There isn't one. An Aeroplane, or Airplane for those on the other side of the pond, is an Aircraft as is a balloon, airship and glider (and if you believe our CAA, as is a hovercraft).
In my younger days we were taught that "aircraft" referred to anything, aerostat or aerodyne, that moved through the air and aeroplane referred to aerodynes only. As they say these days, the clue is in the name - and "plane" is a term for "wing" as in mainplane, tailplane etc.
Not sure what the US usage implies

[Asturias56]

back on thread - is that NW Europe?

[dook]

Basically yes, but not France.

Cold war Soviet.

[jensdad]

Basically yes, but not France.

Cold war Soviet.
Must be East Germany then?

[dook]

Correct......

[Asturias56]

still in use?

[dook]

Yes, but now for general aviation.

[dook]

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/769x285/now_3a0da22835aabbec45a08d892c3ddd828ac39c48.jpg

[nvubu]

Off topic:
Why is Asturias56 now "I'm new here" with zero posts - even though that post must count as one :(
go to the profile/statistics/find all posts by Asturias56 - and there they are.

[dook]

Weird.

Just as I an unable to post a quote or copy phrases without the [left colour] right ] stuff appearing.

[chevvron]

Off topic:
Why is Asturias56 now "I'm new here" with zero posts - even though that post must count as one :(
go to the profile/statistics/find all posts by Asturias56 - and there they are.
I've had that a couple of times when I've been suspended for being a 'naughty boy' with my remarks; just saying and not that I'm implying Asurias has been a naughty boy of course.

[India Four Two]

MAYDAY RELAY from Asturias56:

“PM from Asturias – his account has been reset to zero posts, his inbox is “full” and can’t be deleted and he is back to one post or so a day (to be verified each time) by the Mods until he gets back to 5 or 10.... no idea why..................”

[dook]

A mystery I hope will be resolved.

[dook]

Has everyone given up on the airfield ?

[jensdad]

The soil to the south (in the photo anyway) of the runway looks sandy. To keep things chugging along I'll cast a line at Stralsund?

[dook]

Hang on whilst I find that.....

steer about 200 just over 200nm.

[jensdad]

Ah OK, it's not sand from the Baltic Sea then :)

[dook]

There isn't any sand in the aerial view I posted.

[dook]

GE view.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/792x455/capture_9e3a6df7d957bd820783279c28c50600ce77f335.jpg

[Self loading bear]

To align with the glidescope:
Haina?
edit
strange the side does not properly update.
I just now see that Jensdad was on the ILS already.

[dook]

Jensdad has not identified it, but you have with Haina.

Your runway.

[Self loading bear]

Thanks,
I was in the holding pattern till somebody nailed the lifting body glider.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/438x512/18dba4e4_3d70_40c0_98ee_47eb4466e5ff_4858af74847b311f24307ef 53cc9b2cc75e6b84f.jpeg

[dook]

Yes - life is quite busy these day with three threads going.

At least I have the time to track them all.

[jensdad]

Hi SLB, as dook rightly says, it's all yours. I was still at cruising altitude over the Baltic Coast when you were crossing the piano keys. :)

[dook]

We used to put the jets down on the piano keys.

[dook]

I don't that's an airfield but how about USNS Choctaw County.

[Self loading bear]

It floats indeed but Choctaw is way faster than this one

[dook]

I thought it might also be USNS Alan Shepard but now you've said that it can't be.

It's maybe that old WW2 carrier which is still in service. I found it this morning but forgotten its' name retracing my steps.

USS Bataan ?

[Self loading bear]

Not USS Bataan
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1034x748/61cf3c72_16b0_4c2e_990c_df1b06045815_9b8665ed8bff882208fdb97 b60cf25eb8f94cff5.jpeg

[dook]

Is it a Wasp class though ?

[dook]

OK - how about 15 kts speed.

The Lewis B. Puller ?

[Self loading bear]

ESB-3 Lewis B.Puller it is
the deck is yours

[dook]

I think it is time for OH.

[sycamore]

Where is the Haina airfield,near....? GE won`t co-operate...?

[dook]

Here....


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x396/capture_c35dc078b3b8fe513177686dbc55a81e51708336.jpg

[sycamore]

AHH,you mean Eisenach-Kindel....there is another Haina 60 miles West as well...Ta...

[ea200]

Here's one to be going on with

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1632x1224/20190926_142002b_ebff453df42a6eb0daaf86d69f693472fd61f793.jp g

[India Four Two]

Somewhere in California?

[ea200]

Yes it is.

[dook]

Is it still in use ?

[dook]

Is it called "On the Rocks Airport" ?

[ea200]

Not that one Dook but similar elevation. Still in use and occasionally used by some very wealthy visitors (according to the locals).

[ea200]

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1632x1224/20190926_142741b_7bbd563ff77bdebd9cdbdd21560882512b5160c4.jp g
This any help?

[dook]

Now you have me wondering.

Maybe the locals are poor or if not why very wealthy people would visit.

[ea200]

There are a few very private and luxurious properties tucked away in the hills around here.

[dook]

Is it near Clear Lake ?

[dook]

Georgetown ?

Or maybe Placerville.

[ea200]

Not either of those and not near Clear Lake but you're heading in the right direction.

[dook]

Eagle Ridge Ranch maybe.

The trouble is that I'm unsure whether the large foreground area is a runway or a ramp area.

[ea200]

Wrong direction now. You were closer with Clear Lake.

[ea200]

That foreground area in the first pic is a ramp. Hangers behind the camera.

[dook]

The only other one I have marked is Willits.

[ea200]

Right direction now but further North. Can post GE overhead if required.

[dook]

Go on then......

[ea200]

One more clue first. There is a lake in the background and its a large one.

[dook]

Latitude-wise there is only one large lake north of Willets and there's no airfield there.

However, Lake Mountain ?

[ea200]

If you're thinking of Ruth Lake it's a lot bigger than that. Long and thin though and further North.

[dook]

No, I was thinking of Pyramid Lake but no matter.

Is it called Trinity Center ?

[ea200]

That's the one! Busiest in the summer with visitors for the fishing and boating but quite a few aircraft based here. Only one Cessna arrival when I took the pics about 4 weeks ago.
Dook has control.

[dook]

It took me long enough but Californyay ain't exactly small.

And why was I the only person playing.

[condor17]

SLB , in your post 17513 . Any idea 'wot CF-FDD , bottom right is ? Has the look of a 2 seat Hurricane about it , with 3 bladed prop . Wing and dihedral incorrect 'tho.
Or is it shodowed 2 blade and similar to the Cornell ? reg. unreadable above FDD ?

rgds condor .

[dook]

This one might be easier.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/557x398/careful_9806de15e62386328bf584037a18ce2ef7f45fd8.jpg

[condor17]

Tibenham .

condor

[dook]

Good evening condor.

I'm afraid not.

[Asturias56]

A tentative question - UK?

[condor17]

Tarrant Ruston ? But probably not hilly enough .

rgds condor .

[dook]

It's not Tarrant Rushton either, but it is UK.

[vulcanite]

Long Marston, near Stratford-upon-Avon?

[dook]

It's not Long Marston to be sure.

[sycamore]

To be sure, Nutt`s Corner,NI....?

[dook]

It is indeed Norn Oirland, but not Nutts Corner.

You are 7nm away.

[Self loading bear]

I will go for RAF Maghaberry based on following photo:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x281/969f7828_4a85_43b0_b34f_38aaa12b6340_26432d136648c582b683752 c48254092f3f9e61b.jpeg

[dook]

Good shooting bear.

Maghaberry is now a prison.

Your tee.

[Self loading bear]

Let’s edit!

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1116x612/90d5974d_fd88_4c85_b5ba_95fab2de42db_c6a583306e3000d1498d598 e42b7d5368f759100.jpeg

[dook]

Where is it ?

[Self loading bear]

Where is it ?
That is the essence of the game!

[dook]

I posted that before you posted the photo.

10/10 for humour though.

[dook]

That is almost certainly UK.

[Self loading bear]

Yes and they have icecream to stay cool in the flight Centre.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1254x536/514c4404_38df_43e6_9381_738f2ae17fac_d9ff5be29c829fe054aacb5 a9ed51591e244e6ba.jpeg

[dook]

Bear,

A PM for you.

[mustbeaboeing]

Eastchurch Isle of Sheppy
Open House if correct

[Self loading bear]

MbaB,

welcome back
please try again Eastchurch is not the place to be.

[dook]

I have found this photograph. The green control building looks the same.

Caption says Bagby.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/450x260/control_cdd0a6152a620ffe67a5a31b194ae742c9b5a1b4.jpg

[Self loading bear]

And Bagby it is.
Over to dook

[dook]

Thank you for the PM Bear - replied.

I found this while searching for a recent challenge.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x359/bangbomb_529314a96ef16f98c79637d3cf6f1ce63f2a3689.jpg

[Self loading bear]

edit: on stereo-ids
And Bagby it is.
Over to dook

[dook]

What are you on today Bear ?

You gave me control at post #17626.

[sycamore]

Possibly in Italy...?

[dook]

Not possibly - definitely.

[jensdad]

The countryside looks very flat, and is that the sea in the background? South coast of Sicily perhaps?

[dook]

Mainland Italy.

Not the sea in the background.

[Shackman]

One of the airfields in the Foggia complex?

[dook]

It is indeed. :)

[Shackman]

Pantanella?

[dook]

Keep going.....

[Shackman]

Seeing as at least 10 airfields of the Foggia complex were home to USAAF B-24's (and one to RAF B-24's) I'll have one more guess - San Giovanni. If correct, Open House; if incorrect someone else can find/guess one of the others! However, if you have a better pic of the tail insignia..................

[dook]

The challenge is south of your two suggestions.

There is available on the web a map of all the airfields.

Would you like a close-up of the tail markings ?

[Shackman]

Yes Please

[dook]

Here ye go.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/500x224/tail_52fe9ef24d05ae1d62e991195130b48c276f97fc.jpg

[Shackman]

Thanks Dook - 485th BG at Venosa.

[dook]

Bingo with Venusa.

Over to you. :ok:

[Shackman]

Sorry to say - Open House.

[dook]

After all that work.

[Shackman]

Took a Shack to Foggia in '71. The locals (and the USAF at Souda Bay) thought the B-24s had returned!!

[dook]

A reminder that we are still at OH.

[Self loading bear]

I think this is also called an open house?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1045x596/893b11bd_26a3_4c1d_bc0e_6b33ee46ca46_20b70045d5cff98dbd25f09 89c507d1b1aa5448f.jpeg

[dook]

10/10 for humour !

I first thought it is an ATC rower, but it can't be.

Is it a guard post or something similar ?

[jensdad]

Hi team,
The graffiti seems to be at least partly in the Roman alphabet (hard to tell) and Western numbers (definitely). But the landscape looks like somewhere in India, Pakistan or that neck of the woods.
Turkey?

j'sd

[dook]

The words top left say "finger lickin good" with an image of Col. Sanders.

An American base therefore and to me it looks more like a desert.

[jensdad]

Ah, I see. I'm thinking Pakistan or Afghan then. Never having been to that part of the world thankfully, I can't venture any further guesses...

[Self loading bear]

Dook it’s a former guard tower.
Jensdad, I just found a better picture

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/746x981/0c363d9d_c4b8_48a9_9136_3beec0576ee9_6281fb1eb0701e352aa5464 0673b448d830efe2c.jpeg

[dook]

Bear's latest says I was correct about the graffiti.

Well, if it's a recent occupation or combat zone I'll go for Afghanistan.

Since Bear has posted under aerodrome it must narrow it down.

[dook]

Google

"american air bases guard tower Afghanistan" and the last image appears on the second line.

Bagram.

[Self loading bear]

Former Russian guard tower at Bagram it is.
Over to you Dook

[dook]

Thank you Bear.

Bahrain ? I think you meant Bagram.

I have challenges up on the other two threads so this one has to be OH

[chevvron]

Somebody, anybody?

[dook]

OK then...…..


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/650x385/thur_4542bbdcd676096aef95369ce1cf4251af658af5.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Autobahn landeplatz in former East block?

[dook]

Yes and yes.

[Self loading bear]

I have searched East Germany and Poland but no matching Autobahn as far as I could find.
I have the idea we need another clue.

[dook]

Good day Bear.

Nice to see someone here. I am thinking the other two new threads are taking attention.

Estonia......

[Self loading bear]

First try and probably a hit as is fairly matching today’s google maps:
jagala varava

[dook]

It is a hit with Jagala.

Your next shot.

[Self loading bear]

Thanks dook
this is not an AutoBahn Abschnitt:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x477/1cd40dd0_97f9_4e36_9f58_435410a52c8e_4db8d6a67d0d9b85b8d7418 c1ba0078503d89bed.jpeg

[Cubs2jets]

USA, eastern side? Virginia?

C2j

[Self loading bear]

No
they have no Autobahn only freeways

[dook]

Flugplatz Giengen-Brenz

[Self loading bear]

Very wel done
over to dook

[dook]

Cheers Bear.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x336/copy_d2b67ec34939fe8925bde17bd3f3ea6fa55c825c.jpg

[Self loading bear]

I think the pilot needs a hair cut!
one of the Channel Islands?

[dook]

A long, long way west of the Channel Islands.

[Self loading bear]

USA East coast
or even West coast?

[dook]

South of the USA Bear.

[chevvron]

Tobago Crown Point?

[dook]

Go west to the mainland - it's not an island.

[Self loading bear]

This limits it to about 10.000 miles of coastline.
Can we reduce it by answering north or south of Colon Panama?

[Self loading bear]

I have received PM from dook
He cannot post
we can continue on this thread
We are north of colon

[dook]

Good on you Bear.

Thank you.

[sycamore]

Belize Municipal .....(from about 2005)....Confirmed from OP, from telecon... OPEN HOUSE .....

[dook]

Good morning/afternoon/evening all.

I can confirm that sycamore has correctly identified Belize.

[India Four Two]

Here's a strip that a friend of mine occasionally flies his Chipmunk to, for lunch:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x427/wad_2019_11_07_264e5471e317a52ff839c33a896539e5f2b2a501.jpg

[dook]

On a hunch it's your part of the world I Goggled "canada golf course airstrip".

Looks like Sandpiper Golf Course BC.

[India Four Two]

My post concerning the correct identification of Sandpiper/Rowena's airstrip was deleted, so for the record, now that 24 hours has safely passed, I can repost my follow-up photo, which would have narrowed it down:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/550x432/sandpiper_golf_course_2_f42db3986d1334d9225b184b656772c60f67 dc71.jpg

and a location image, for those interested:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/677x430/rowena_s_5d8cf4c91f2d78ac3be2703c0c241acf4aaae870.png

dook has control.

[dook]

Thank you I42.

Open House.

[nvubu]

Welcome KJ - I was the same a number of years ago, and had no clue where any of the aerodromes was - and then I solved my first one and posted my first challenge, which was identified very quickly :(

Here's the next aerodrome.
https://04vq8g.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mFwv55_HTQC_m-fNAwy3JvnKGuhOAEsfcmyW2vebTojuFjahdGAjf1O5etLJx-50DkR7GaZQwRVtL7cB38ThmGhU5GycC03uyG8vGcSibDRpO1HKZYmsDqSJea 7GAyxx97RSxZjR89kHe2zLAqz0pxgSlwLEqs8cNUmroMvoea-Oki2HeIISaqxMqV_5lIRYC4BTDjotyXMWXl9JatSoDAg?width=1024&height=734&cropmode=none

[sycamore]

Somewhere pretty cold,looking at the covers on the ground and the heaters...Aleutians...?

[nvubu]

Yes, it can get cold here, but it isn't in the Aleutians

https://0ovh8g.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mqxMJGudBwvKCVW4Fz6pqDFV0fL4jpugRqoW-X2ETcOb33NTzUb8YkHFp4J-UKq5ezaR9pJb_uW_H_VLhoASlPG3Dj9smp7Xi1XP7MJSVpgMQ4UUtQKB2ZHa OP4mhW1ZtGno1w2sfxpv5d5aXYNe5MklTGtER0h7poLSPZIPXglZQ5DX_bYx F3_2mjlGtn7amM3G0f9Ny_NziYdy2MfV4Sg?width=1024&height=743&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

I'm torn between two possible areas - somewhere in North America or somewhere in China, like Kunming.

[nvubu]

Do these help you decide which area?

https://lltwga.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mUTxkB4rUfto32BzzbAI3sROmWgDjXC3hR-ohiJmOwD9I332eqtIGSxa1PkUnM6ZpzJgPBjszZXbDvpDTxjmddrPWdfkz19 Q_LfTtQZ79S8WYhzDMzXIWyO2pgVBMRmb5JkEKXsFQZ3dU-NK9QBz9RXJPdxjSmbjB1AYvm2poAwknsrQPwSpNoYCK8hVUWsRTARcYqEuKw APpDGag9l8aXQ?width=1024&height=687&cropmode=none

https://opnx2g.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mV22NWp9DlMJcwCmXRWqvGqFhG5-Hno-Wp91NNVr5ZXLsUCSnYPLpZu7KZUn_emLIwxju34mvgdNOJwSmcZiFLBaGNRy KGnYv4aZGHBvF3qsevj-zKeU9XOrj6m1dEPH99Ko_D1NBzFQswA4GWR8F3SLgFvf4Jp4NjtTIbogYG-UeG2VCMmccPJwGvn3x27q13HfAhy8inlIV6raFdK-Z0g?width=1024&height=751&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

I doubt there were B-17s or P-38s in China.

Even though it’s not the Aleutians, I’m tempted by the idea of Alaska.

[MReyn24050]

I doubt there were B-17s or P-38s in China.

Even though it’s not the Aleutians, I’m tempted by the idea of Alaska.
What about Greenland?

[nvubu]

India 42s temptations are correct.

Yet more aircraft types at this location.
https://chuwoa.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mWsPPs8GMgPa7_HiWaYe9i6YGmtIYxaZCUs5WQ6_35NJo_iXy4M5dy-6Mf4hRyLT9Rnv1clPUdb5TCV6nXDUqL_bwP4AUP0ydEAF_z3lsaJt8y0SPq5 LYVMN4aFtKgB0EN9xE7EkCatTAjW50XcFpgy7Of50twT1By2E7Q2P0y_Jc_M jjGQ5SRKNon4P0HE-s5nDMgimyHJSE8a-H44eVSA?width=1024&height=708&cropmode=none

https://bqcklq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mpjSEQPNg07cHSkeZEZjwM6kEre-pzFeC6Hjapsl_I0s9AmoTZftxpkpzGsXvTVToTuWe9aM2SzzItmKJfDWo1th A8Xg7Gn9t2pQcr1mYgcI245OH1TjPPOoejjLVhXVNX_hh7TMquQ89rTMVGy1 PVALuBbv8nEDcaIo-W0nXBmd0dTx3VWodL25lJAISHOdJHGBq_-SmryGymFhGx9XULQ?width=1024&height=691&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

Lots of choices in Alaska, but I think, given the plethora of aircraft, this must be one of the bigger ones. My first guess is the first USAAF airfield in Alaska - Elmendorf.

[nvubu]

Ah ha, you have picked up on the huge variety of aircraft - I've not seen so many different types at an airfield before. However it isn't Elmendorf.

These people were also there.
https://nxc7ua.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mfOSFNC5ntuz42VjNOSjbLZvJ9fFJYkNDQxjv1QCnHD1EcuE-ek-CzL9L0eWVJjZAh0enzt_XohtJcKiVFYKhPR365q3t5I1Gkh5LO0ZSfrZyQxC WxxZXqs1kWC3Zs_2w32G8mpnxXdOt3SkrapZPwX0gcXaBNbfC2WaM43W8Uis mmACqI62KEqgStrmcWgDDk59xCNBtRtTerwcRWRJ7KA?width=1024&height=763&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

Ah ha, I wondered if Russians might be involved! I was looking for Red Stars on the photos you posted.

So is this one of the Northwest Staging Route airfields? Possibly Ladd Army Airfield at Fairbanks?

[nvubu]

I thought that the image with the Russians might help, and you have it with Ladd Army Airfield at Fairbanks. Over to you.

My next image would have been aircraft with red stars on them - see not always cold.
https://lvtnga.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mVWYlPvCYfuvkDq-ClpFHPqL-0hsfJhTsxIwZEYFZxR8p7i90eydGoRJxANZl1e2sPWq7TMyGdQr6Si2XyX2W w55XCexVerFJpiJg4UqBqlnJ2JE0yp8LgBAuL3RpTPyLM6tnqcN6rcRBu-MxCHuXetO4KowvWtoHgiue539Ba_FfiRyJZjE-6SXZW4qOP2gdvcKRy9pscXJg4wSBsKtiag?width=1024&height=767&cropmode=none

Ladd was the cold weather testing airfield - hence the wide variety of aircraft.

This is my favourite image - and would have been the last clue.
https://bqcjlq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mYmzF8uhCqUPf1pkoV97CgwAxiHhCLbgV0x3MxH1EepXTo7YNqT55tk3FD wVw2SYRYuoHppgm5p3xzXsVdr17sTVXwwsMkDvYuMw9SFF7XXEL2yi6wJyom 6Sg2Wug7FsD_3Q7ZVyOGXEBdTZa6qdnRyfjGiDcB3fUstWd9tUpG989wiN8A r92tGzrcvYVaIUMlLOS683MzMyQ9SFxnogFXA?width=1024&height=691&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

nvubu, a great challenge. I learned a lot in the process of tracking it down.

Once you showed the Russians doing a pre-flight, I guessed Ladd, because I had read that this was where Russian crews took over the Lend-Lease aircraft.

Re your last image - you don’t need to go to Alaska for conditions like that. I’ve seen similar ice-fog in southern Alberta!

I have a challenge on my computer. Please standby.

[India Four Two]

It's not winter here:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1125x845/wad_20191112_06901495da6e03991530019b53aa55fa30b4aba3.jpg

[Asturias56]

Are we in Europe? I thought it might be Sion in Switzerland but this is all grass and the railway runs on thw opposite side of the field to the main road.

[India Four Two]

Not Europe, no matter how you define it. ;)

[Asturias56]

Well I did suspect that the Swiss flag on the cap was a distraction.

Let us see - v steep river valleys but a lot of development and a railroad - so not S Island New Zealand. Truck (left hand side hallway up) on right hand side of the road. So it's probably the America's. Looks too neat & tidy for C Chile so maybe USA or Canada.

Very steep valleys and big mountains - doesn't look like Appalchia to me - very straight valley - Rocky Mountain eastern side looks possible - but not way out in the sticks - too neat and tidy

[Jamesel]

Faint Hope of finding it on the EAST side of the Rockies.... Was the photo taken from a CJ6?

[Asturias56]

Sorry , I meant the Eastern Rockies. It looks a pretty well off area from the picture.

And there's a railroad which should help.

[India Four Two]

Jamesl, faint Hope of it being a CJ6 - another tandem two-seater.

Asturias, not the Rockies, but west of them. I confess to some legerdemain concerning the flag, to try and put you off the scent!

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1600x1200/chipmunk_b90eb2b9378db4b109e2736409a95a48688359de.jpg

[ea200]

Hope Regional Airpark?

[India Four Two]

ea200,

I had to look that up, because I had not heard that name before, but you are correct. I know it just as Hope airfield, home to the Vancouver Soaring Association.

I also discovered something about it that I did not know - 737 grass runway trials!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOpBXmqa0eY

For Jamesl's benefit, the picture was taken from a Chipmunk back seat and I'm surprised that Asturias didn't pick up on your "Faint Hope" clue. :)

ea200 has control.

[ea200]

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/275x183/airport1_007087ffa9d1e39be3980334510a7e8ff28ea7b6.jpg
Thanks IF2. After being led astray by your flag ploy, I went for the railway line as being the line through Kamloops. Found it fairly easily after that.

Here's a nice bit of architecture.

[10 DME ARC]

I42 Brilliant video thanks for sharing

[Asturias56]

Googling ATC towers shows just how architects let their imaginations run riot (have you seen Edmonton??).

Let's guess at N America?

[ea200]

Not N America. Head East.

[sycamore]

Middle East or Far East.....?

[ea200]

I see what you mean about Edmonton. Impressive.

[ea200]

Neither of those Sycamore.

[ea200]

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/482x245/airport3b_3cbef179fb98d199e013b5ce99ffa1069e70b821.jpg

Time for an overhead perhaps

[Asturias56]

are we in Europe?

has a vaguely E European air to it - all those multi-storey blocks of apartments.

[ea200]

Know what you mean but it's not Europe. Yes, there are plenty of apartment blocks in the new parts of town but also lots of old buildings elsewhere.

Many historical European connections hereabouts.

[India Four Two]

North Africa?

[ea200]

Not any part of Africa.

[sycamore]

Is that a lake or sea at the top,beyond the runway....?////

[ea200]

That's the sea.

[creweite]

Near Stanstead but not Europe?

[ea200]

Hi Creweite. If you mean Stansted (EGSS) then I never said it was near there (although I am at present). It's very close to Europe but about 3.5 hours from Stansted as a 73 flies.
Not to suggest that anyone does fly there from Stansted.

I may have misled earlier by saying that it isn't in the MIddle East. I don't consider it as such but technically it is. Whoops!

[ea200]

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/275x183/airport5_d099967a3720d6e36d0ce5cb636c401c0525f0a8.jpg
These guys were practicing here in April for an anniversary display.

[Asturias56]

Someone posted an answer - somewhere in Turkey - but it seems to have disappeared.

[ea200]

Well, however it was got Turkey correct. If the vanishing poster cares to re-post they will get it if they have the correct location. If not anyone else care to post? That's the Turkish Stars by the way. Thanks for the info Asturias56.

[Asturias56]

It wasn't someone I recognised as a regular on here - they gave an answer and declared OH

I haven't the time to check out Turkey inch by inch today - its a bigger place than I thought!

[nvubu]

They posted Canakkale Turkey

[Asturias56]

Could be - the basic layout with the turning areas at the runway threshold is pretty common in Turkey but the overhead posted in the challenge looks as if it's pretty old - there's a great big terminal area on the NW side of the runway now according to GE. Street View imagery is 2014 and doesn't show the terminal but the vertical 2019 shot shows a hexagonal shape similar to the challenge. Google just shows a grotty old tower but the attached link shows the new tower

https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x14b10765de565285%3A0xebf50175940cdc5a!3m1!7e115!4sht tps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNLjTuZ0kGF 2znEV6xDwdQvt0AKR5D9EzP_2f3e%3Dw239-h160-k-no!5sCanakkale%20airport%20-%20Google%20Search!15sCAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipOgvV0-DbhO1fWcOgIjfwcJWL68b8OqvuPFFG43&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOkNecruzlAhVOLVAKHVSFBjoQoiowCnoECA8QBg

[ea200]

It is Canakkale. The whole airport was redeveloped around 2014 including a re-laid runway and the new terrminal. The overhead I posted dates from around that time.
OH it is.

[Asturias56]

Here's one I must have passed a dozen times before realising it was there

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/679x489/2019_10_29_164923_d45b106a07cabff77bc972ffca6bc3b559fc77d2.j pg
.

[UV]

UK...near the M25. Amersham area? Cant remember the name of the place.

[Asturias56]

Yes - it is in the Uk

Yes it is near a main road

No it is not the M25 or near Amersham

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/210x211/2019_10_29_164749_f7d6568ecfd8b8e2fc4278a2d4b91419b0c2e861.j pg

[Duchess_Driver]

EMH, Costock?

Disregard.

[Asturias56]

Not Costock but closer than the M25

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/334x222/2019_10_29_164405_49008d050ada88994c4715f51f7d94c8522005ac.j pg

[chevvron]

UK...near the M25. Amersham area? Cant remember the name of the place.
How about Denham?

[Asturias56]

No - you are too London-centric.................

Never sure if this place is busy or not but it seems to have been there a while

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/292x279/2019_10_29_164440_0900cbde34a85d678bb264b2f1baa9ad426d36f2.j pg

[Allan Lupton]

Probably not Popham, but who knows?

[mustbeaboeing]

Nottingham (Heliport)
Open House if correct

[Asturias56]

Yes - although its a few miles south of the City just off the A46 - I must have passed it dozens of times over the years - OH it is

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/615x673/2019_10_29_164345_c2f3edb6f0e80ff0553a3e90f9974c4352f4fddf.j pg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/276x410/2019_10_29_165017_a6c949ec1aff4e75a97021061573d67d36262192.j pg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/177x142/2019_10_29_164617_f3f73bd7ef108bbbcf8e157da5b3a11d60042d68.j pg

[India Four Two]

Was someone having a laugh when they chose a field 15 miles from the city centre and named it Nottingham Heliport? :rolleyes:

[Asturias56]

To be fair it's only about 15 minutes out from the centre - and the well heeled all live on that side of town as well

have you seen London Stansted or London Oxford...................... they're well over 50 miles out

IIRC the old Spitting Image TV show had Ryanair advertising "London Mt Pleasant -easier to get to than Stansted, less delays that Heathrow"

[dixi188]

Then there was the re-naming of East Midlands to Nottingham East Midlands about 20 years ago.
Caused some confusion with UPS crews looking at Tollerton.
Also, the the nearest city is Derby and it's in Leicestershire.

[Asturias56]

Middlesborough/Teeside/Durham............... and wasn't EM going to be Robin Hood?

[chevvron]

Middlesborough/Teeside/Durham............... and wasn't EM going to be Robin Hood?
You mean Finningley?
And whatever happened to St Mawgan?:eek:

[dixi188]

Not forgetting "London Hurn" just after the WW2. Over 100 miles from London.

Anyone got a picture to post?

[Flap40]

I think I count as an irregular regular so here is a BOGOF deal for you.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x675/img_1789_7a95ec0579a02725f9e91cf7576c6c18d02e6dd0.jpg

[Flap40]

I guess we need a clue. Eastern Med.

[ea200]

Hi Flap. You beat me to it with that one, it was next on my list. However, I will leave it to others to find it.