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sabredog
1st Apr 2012, 09:58
nvubu,not the U.S.A.

chevvron
1st Apr 2012, 10:11
Either Bodney or East Wretham, now part of the Stanford Training Area in Norfolk.
OH if correct.

nvubu
1st Apr 2012, 11:04
I agree with Chevvron - it's East Wretham in 1946.

sabredog
1st Apr 2012, 11:11
Correct, R.A.F. East Wretham it is.

nvubu
1st Apr 2012, 12:41
Here's one I came across whilst searching for the challenge before last.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-04-01A.jpg

Will sabredog get this in one :ok:

jindabyne
1st Apr 2012, 12:54
Sumburgh Shetland ?

sabredog
1st Apr 2012, 13:03
Providence Bay (Provideniya airport),Ureliki.

nvubu
1st Apr 2012, 13:16
sabredog has it in one as usual :ugh:(must try harder....)

You have control.

sabredog
1st Apr 2012, 18:34
Thank you, nvubu.
Open House

seacue
1st Apr 2012, 23:42
Not Your Typical Aerodrome, but it was used for a number of years. Being OpenHouse, here is one to keep it going.

http://members.toast.net/rcarpen/img018a.jpg

evansb
2nd Apr 2012, 01:19
Wall St. (East River) Skyport, NYC ?

seacue
2nd Apr 2012, 05:36
Not Wall Street, but it was on the East River. This was long before the Skyport. Its main user closed around 1930.

sabredog
2nd Apr 2012, 07:09
East 23rd Street seaplane base, East River Havens? Keystone-Loening (Air Yacht)

seacue
2nd Apr 2012, 07:45
sabredog.
The plane is a Loening Air Yacht, NC 7772, pictured in 1929.
I go by the book, ISBN 0-8212-0474-2, page 134.
This was before Keystone bought Loening.
It is not at 23rd Street. Try farther north.

sabredog
2nd Apr 2012, 08:58
31 St. East River of New York?

seacue
2nd Apr 2012, 10:54
sabredog is correct and has control.

The picture was at the Loening Aeronautical Engineering Corporation factory at 31st St and the East River. That area has been swallowed by the New York Univ. School of Medicine. Leroy Grumman was Loening's general manager when the picture was taken. Jake Swirbul was plant manager.

When Keystone took over, it announced that the Manhattan factory would close. Grumman, Swirbul and others left and formed the Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corp. One of Grumman's early products was the JF Duck, which appeared the 1933. The J2F (below) was a development.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/J2F-5_1942_NAN11-61.jpg/300px-J2F-5_1942_NAN11-61.jpg

sabredog
2nd Apr 2012, 12:37
Thank you,seacue. An interesting and unusual challenge.
Open House

MReyn24050
2nd Apr 2012, 13:25
At Post # 1500 nvubu wrote:-
Thanks Sabredog for that - whilst searching for the challenge I came across this weird and wonderful aeroplane, which I thought was worth sharing.

The aircraft is in fact a Grade-Eindekker the Grade B with double undercarriage for stunt flying. It was built by the German Hans grade circa 1910.

evansb
2nd Apr 2012, 21:53
Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD120402.jpg

olympus
2nd Apr 2012, 22:34
Namsos, Norway.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/Namsos.jpg

evansb
2nd Apr 2012, 23:39
olympus is correct. Your turn.

olympus
3rd Apr 2012, 11:21
Thank you evansb; Open House.

seacue
4th Apr 2012, 11:38
24 hours of quiet and it's time for a new challenge.

http://members.toast.net/rcarpen/242F710a.jpg

sabredog
4th Apr 2012, 12:40
Guinea Airways Junkers G31 at Wau or Lae, PNG?

Noyade
4th Apr 2012, 12:44
Too slow....
Was also going to say Wau...

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8124/img535z.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/img535z.jpg/)

seacue
4th Apr 2012, 12:47
Certainly PNG. Not Lae or Wau. The ID I have is of a place not too far from Wau. Picture taken in the late 1930s, I suspect.

Noyade
4th Apr 2012, 12:52
Another quick stab mate. The article also mentions a Bulolo Aerodrome? Is your Junkers G-31 the "Bulolo.1 Paul?"

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/347/img536z.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/img536z.jpg/)

seacue
4th Apr 2012, 12:59
Noyade has it and is in control.

The caption says that the Bulolo airport was used as a golf course when planes were not expected. . G. Earth has what looks like a runway SE of the center of town. Maybe that is the old aerodrome, not when GE has the airport symbol.

The plane registration is VH-UOV.

Noyade
4th Apr 2012, 13:02
Thanks Seacue. Complete fluke thanks to Aeroplane Monthly.

Open House.

evansb
4th Apr 2012, 21:30
Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD120404.jpg

Ridge Runner
5th Apr 2012, 09:06
Northern Europe, Brian?

sabredog
5th Apr 2012, 10:38
Caen Carpiquet

evansb
5th Apr 2012, 14:42
sabredog is spot on:ok: Your turn.

sabredog
5th Apr 2012, 16:10
Thank you,Brian.
The next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz81.jpg

Lordflasheart
6th Apr 2012, 08:58
We're not ignoring it, we're just temporarily flummoxed, tried all the obvious stuff and still working on it. :) LFH

Aero Mad
6th Apr 2012, 09:06
Looks rather like RAF Thorney Island.

MReyn24050
6th Apr 2012, 09:22
Es ist in Deutschland, glaube ich. Travemünde-Priwall.

sabredog
6th Apr 2012, 09:26
You are correct.Mel.
At least it is not Paraguayan with Italian undertones!!!
YHC

MReyn24050
6th Apr 2012, 09:36
Thanks Terry :). Try this one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airportquiz053.jpg

Lordflasheart
6th Apr 2012, 22:33
Wild guess - Freeman AAF, Indiana, 1945. LFH

MReyn24050
6th Apr 2012, 22:37
Not Freeman AAF, Indiana, 1945. Lordflasheart. This airfield is in Germany.

evansb
7th Apr 2012, 19:16
Is it Dessau ?

MReyn24050
7th Apr 2012, 19:52
Not Dessau Bri, this one is well in what was the American zone post WWII.

Noyade
7th Apr 2012, 22:30
Chocolate greetings Mel.

Did Mr Watson Whizzer have any connection to this place, though I can't see any Me 262s?

(Ashamed to ask, but what's the foreground aircraft?)

nvubu
8th Apr 2012, 07:34
I'll have a stab at Böblingen

MReyn24050
8th Apr 2012, 08:43
Graeme.
I do not know if Whizzer was involved or if the Me262 flew from here. I am getting a bit old for Chocolate Easter Eggs, I prefer a bar of nuts and raisin myself. The aircraft is said to be a Zlinn XII modified to have open cockpits and a Walter engine..

nvubu. You are so close, only a few miles away, except this airfield was not as far as I can ascertain given the name Boblingen.
Mel

nvubu
8th Apr 2012, 12:17
Stuttgart Airfield was built to replace Böblingen airport, so I'll try that ... Although it is on the list :ok:

MReyn24050
8th Apr 2012, 13:01
I am sure you are correct. My source gives it as Stuttgart-Echterdingen.
You have control.
Just a little history:-
During the war the Luftwaffe based night fighters at Echterdingen, sharing the field with commercial aircraft. The fighters flew interceptions against the many Allied air attacks on Stuttgart and other targets in southern Germany. The Luftwaffe put down a concrete runway of 1,400 meters in 1943, but Allied bombers cratered it later in the war and eventually put the airfield out of commission.

First French Army drove through Stuttgart in April 1945, and left behind a detachment to repair the Runway at Echterdingen. American troops replaced the French Army in the early summer and put the airfield back into operation. When the U.S. constabulary, the armed force of the U.S. Military Government, moved into Kurmaerker Kaserne (now Patch Barracks) in 1946, their small flight section operated from Echterdingen Airfield with L-5 liaison planes. In 1950, Headquaters, Seventh Army was activated at Kurmaerker Kaserne, and their flight section replaced the disbanded Constabulary's at the airfield. The next year, Headquaters, VII Corps moved into Hellenen Kaserne (now Kelley Barracks), and VII Corps aviation units joined the Seventh Army section at Echterdingen. German and international commercial operations expanded rapidly after agreements made in 1954, and the corresponding need for more facilities required a continuous program of constuction and improvements. A new main terminal building and several ancillary buildings went up in the years 1954 - 1955. In 1959, the Flughafengesellschaft (FSG) started a runway extension project that took four years to complete.

nvubu
8th Apr 2012, 14:17
Thanks Mel - That was a good challenge.

I went for Böblingen as I identified (probably incorrectly) the second aircraft in the line as a Klemm Kl 35. The manufacturer was based there - hence the guess :ok:. If it is a Klemm, then there's also a link with the Zlin in that Zlin manufactured Klemm's under licence.

Here's the next mystery aerodrome. It has appeared in the list before - so probably very easy.
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-04-08-A.jpg

sabredog
8th Apr 2012, 15:21
Prestwick airfield

nvubu
8th Apr 2012, 15:30
No surprise there then, sabredog has it in one. I know this is the 6th time, but a completely different view from all the others.

Your turn sabredog - one day I'll catch you out :ugh:

MReyn24050
8th Apr 2012, 15:37
Thanks nvubu. In the source from which I obtained the photograph of Stuttgart-Echterdingen it states that second aircraft in line is a Klemm Kl25. The article goes on to state that Klemm Kl25 Registration D-ENNA survived until the end of the war and was captured at Stuttgart-Echterdingen by the Americans and was still in its prewar silver finish.

nvubu
8th Apr 2012, 15:47
Thanks Mel - at least I had the maker correct:)

sabredog
8th Apr 2012, 16:46
Thank you, nvubu. A splendid photograph of Prestwick.
Well done on answering Mel's excellent challenge. I had dismissed both Böblingen and Stuttgart as I could not match up any of the buildings with aerial photographs,and could not find the actual photograph despite the Klemms and Siebel aircraft!
The next challenge;http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz82.jpg

nvubu
8th Apr 2012, 17:19
sabredog - there's a whole sequence of Prestwick during the war here (http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=RCAHMS&id=79633)

I took a flyer on Böblingen as being where the Klamm was manufactured and I guessed there might be one still around at the end of the war. I couldn't match any of the buildings either although they seemed to be in an arc - which they were at Böblingen. Is the seibel the 3rd in-line? My tentative identification was a ME Bf108.

For your challenge - somewhere in Brazil?

sabredog
8th Apr 2012, 17:30
Not Brazil,nvubu,but the correct continent.
I believe the large twin engined aircraft in front of the B-25 Mitchell is the Siebel 204, although I stand to be corrected on the ident!

olympus
8th Apr 2012, 18:02
Alfredo Vasquez Cobo Airport, Leticia, Colombia.

Open House if correct.

sabredog
8th Apr 2012, 18:06
Correct.
Open House declared.

MReyn24050
8th Apr 2012, 18:06
I believe the large twin engined aircraft in front of the B-25 Mitchell is the Siebel 204, although I stand to be corrected on the ident!

The aircraft in the S-E photograph are ZlinnXII( Modified), Klemm Kl 25, Bucker Bu181, Heinkel 72, Siebel Si204 and of course the North American B25.

sabredog
8th Apr 2012, 18:10
Thank you for the confirmation,Mel. I had not spotted the He72!!

Noyade
8th Apr 2012, 23:28
I've read this was once an airfield...

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3249/img559v.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/i/img559v.jpg/)

sabredog
9th Apr 2012, 08:06
Downey Field, Downey, CA? (Also known as EMSCO Field or Vultee Field )

Noyade
9th Apr 2012, 10:06
Remarkable. :ok:

Your control sabredog.

sabredog
9th Apr 2012, 11:57
Many thanks,Graeme.
The next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/QUIZ85-1.jpg

MReyn24050
9th Apr 2012, 12:26
Aeroporto di Torino - Caselle I believe.

sabredog
9th Apr 2012, 14:44
Your belief is not unfounded,Mel. Well done.
YHC

MReyn24050
9th Apr 2012, 15:14
Thank you Terry.
Here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airportquiz054.jpg

sabredog
9th Apr 2012, 17:38
Rostock-Marienehe ?

MReyn24050
9th Apr 2012, 20:21
Not Rostock-Marienehe. This airfield was in a country annexed by Germany in 1938.

nvubu
10th Apr 2012, 07:11
Fliegerhorst Brumowski ?

MReyn24050
10th Apr 2012, 13:09
nvubu. Not Fliegerhorst Brumowski, you have gone a little too far south I believe.
Here is the airfield today:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/225827_163083800417654_163082297084471_375092_4477072_n.jpg

olympus
10th Apr 2012, 13:34
Olomouc, Czech Republic.

Open House if correct.

nvubu
10th Apr 2012, 17:20
I agree with Olympus as to the location.

Although the airfield was known as Olmütz-Neredin by the Luftwaffe as there was also a civilian airport at Olomouc-Holici which opened in 1937. The latter closed in the late 1960s - mentioned bottom of the page here (http://www.letiste-olomouc.cz/historie/index.php) and here (http://www.hao.cz/historie/index.html). Some early photos of Olomouc-Neredin are here (http://www.letiste-olomouc.cz/historie/fotogalerie_1.php) (all these pages are in czech)

I think Bohemia and Moravia, the latter where Olomouc is located, were annexed on 15 March 1939, not 1938. :ugh:

PS Just noticed Google Translate translates Olomouc-Holici into Olomouc-Shaving:D

MReyn24050
10th Apr 2012, 17:44
My source gives the name of the airfield as Olomoc, Czechoslovakia. Doing a search on that name I found the modern photograph of Olomouc. However looking at the various photographs of Olomouc I cannot locate the buildings shown in the challenge photograph. However, Olympus has identified my second photograph so the laurels go to him. I am left wondering if the challenge photograph had been captioned correctly.

Olympus has requested Open House.

nvubu
10th Apr 2012, 17:54
As it's Open House, have a go at this - will sabredog get this in one:ok:

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-04-10A.jpg

olympus
10th Apr 2012, 20:23
Is it Belbek Airport, Sevastopol?

nvubu
10th Apr 2012, 21:42
Olympus - I think I know where you are coming from as that is where I thought it was at first, but I don't think it is as that aerodome was/is for fighters and was only opened up to civil aviation in 2002, whereas this photo was taken sometime in the 60/70s, so I think this is the civil airport for the same city - Simferopol International Airport - although I'm not sure I can prove it :uhoh:

You have control.

olympus
10th Apr 2012, 22:02
I'm sorry, it's still Open House until I can access my main computer.

Noyade
10th Apr 2012, 22:17
Here's another one then...

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5029/img564w.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/img564w.jpg/)

Krakatoa
10th Apr 2012, 23:16
RCAF Bagotville Quebec. OH if correct

Noyade
10th Apr 2012, 23:47
Never been to Canada mate (but I'd like to - in fact I'd like to go anywhere) but not Bagotville. It is/was(?) an Operational Training Unit...somewhere here according to google...

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9030/hereb.png (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/hereb.png/)

sabredog
11th Apr 2012, 08:03
RCAF Chatham

Lordflasheart
11th Apr 2012, 08:55
Nice picture Noyade. I was still looking in Europe. Chatham as SD says, New Brunswick of course and the big hangar fits an easterly takeoff - the placemark seems to indicate Chatham Ontario. From the serial its a Mk 5. Old Vintage Wings has a concise writeup. http://old.vintagewings.ca/rsrc/vwc/pdf/sabre.pdf
LFH

Noyade
11th Apr 2012, 09:12
RCAF Chatham

Well done mate. :ok:

Your control sabredog.

sabredog
11th Apr 2012, 09:52
Thank you,Noyade. Always good to have a photograph of a Sabre on "The Pitch". According to "Chick" Childerhose's book, "362" was serving on the Gunnery Flight of No1 (Fighter) O.T.U at R.C.A.F. Chatham,New Brunswick,hence the lack of drop tanks.
The next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz86.jpg

evansb
11th Apr 2012, 12:47
Chatham, New Brunswick, is no where near the "A" marker on Noyade's post.
Chatham, Ontario is about 800 miles from Chatham, New Brunswick.

MReyn24050
11th Apr 2012, 13:34
Terry back to WWII I believe, North Africa perhaps?

sabredog
11th Apr 2012, 14:33
A very good ranging shot there,Mel. North Africa is correct.

MReyn24050
11th Apr 2012, 15:52
Are the Allies bombing them or are they bombing the Allies?
If they are bombing the Allies perhaps my old feller and his pals were trying to see them off!
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Dad8thArmy12Jan1941.jpg

sabredog
11th Apr 2012, 16:22
The airfield is under attack from U.S.A.A.F bombers, Mel,so that should narrow down the geographic area somewhat!

nvubu
11th Apr 2012, 16:36
Would that be a raid on Tripoli, Tripolitania, Libya?

MReyn24050
11th Apr 2012, 17:07
I will go for Libya also. Is it the Castel Benito airfield

sabredog
11th Apr 2012, 18:58
Tripoli airfield (Castel Benito),1943,so nvubu wins. Well done.
YHC

nvubu
11th Apr 2012, 19:22
Thank you sabredog, an interesting challenge - I've got some photos from what I think is a later raid.

Here's what should be a nice straightfoward challenge.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-11-04A.jpg

sabredog
11th Apr 2012, 19:36
Wilson Airways DH84 Dragon.
Could be Mombasa, Dar-es-Salaam, Entebbe or even Zanzibar!!

nvubu
11th Apr 2012, 19:41
Isn't that cheating having four guesses at a time:D

edit - didn't read it fully. It is Zanzibar... damn, thought I had you :ok:

YHC

sabredog
11th Apr 2012, 19:50
Open House.

descol
12th Apr 2012, 08:26
try this one - it does not seem to be on the list

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/pprune12.jpg

sabredog
12th Apr 2012, 09:40
Garbutt Airfield ,Townsville,Aus.

descol
12th Apr 2012, 16:58
Yep - Townsville it is - all your sabredog

sabredog
12th Apr 2012, 17:13
Thank you,descol.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz87.jpg

Cows getting bigger
12th Apr 2012, 17:59
Long shot - Orly

nvubu
12th Apr 2012, 18:02
WW I airship station Wainoden (Vaiņode), Courland?

sabredog
12th Apr 2012, 18:44
Well done, CGB. Orly it is.
YHC

Cows getting bigger
12th Apr 2012, 18:47
As ever, Open House.

PS. There are some interesting articles about the architect, Eugene Freyssinet. The hangars were very much a work of art.

Lordflasheart
12th Apr 2012, 21:48
Open House - Lets see if this is a mystery or not - LFH http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/LFHWAD001.jpg

chevvron
13th Apr 2012, 14:14
I know I've said it before but Rearsby?

Lordflasheart
13th Apr 2012, 14:30
Right second time Chevy :ok: - You have control. LFH

The picture seems to be from the 29th June 1947 airshow. Programmes sixpence and joyrides from five bob to 12/6d for Leicester and Return.

Rearsby aerodrome operated from 1938 to late '60s when it became an automotive site, going through the hands of Pressed Steel and BMC until British Leyland sold it about 1980 to an MBO which ran successfully on automotive parts until sold to Adwest in 1996. The business closed in about 2003. It is now a group of industrial units and the original farmers fields.

Initially a flying club, in 1939 it became home to Taylorcraft (England) – they changed their name to Auster (the South Wind) after the war. They built nearly 4000 aircraft during the life of the company - some 1600 military AOP aircraft plus civil Taylorcraft, Austers and Beagles of all sorts.

During WWII they also repaired/rebuilt Tiger Moths and 'returned to service' some 1400 Hurricanes and Typhoons and operated from up to ten local industrial sites.

The old grass field is now bisected by the A607 Rearsby bypass.

There's some pretty pics on the third page of this historical discussion thread –

Rearsby (http://www.airfieldinformationexchange.org/community/showthread.php?841-Rearsby)

LFH

chevvron
13th Apr 2012, 16:19
Open House.
Another historic airfield lost to posterity.

nvubu
14th Apr 2012, 10:52
Any idea where this is?
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-04-14A.jpg

sabredog
14th Apr 2012, 11:44
Page Field (Marine Corps Air Station Parris Island)

nvubu
14th Apr 2012, 14:06
YHC .... as usual :ok:

sabredog
14th Apr 2012, 16:20
The next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz882.jpg

nvubu
14th Apr 2012, 16:43
Cromer (Northrepps) Runway 22

sabredog
14th Apr 2012, 16:56
Correct.
YHC

nvubu
14th Apr 2012, 17:07
Here's an aerodrome that is a fair distance from North Norfolk

edit: replace words on the roof

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-04-14B1.jpg

SilentHandover
14th Apr 2012, 19:34
Is it Lusaka? If it is the words written on the roof are well hidden! :ok:

nvubu
14th Apr 2012, 20:53
Yes Lusaka in 1955 - now Lusaka City Airport.

I thought the words on the roof were a bit of a giveaway - I've replaced the image so that they are visible. The straight lines on the roof helped me to copy and paste areas ajacent to the letters over the top - didn't fool you though:ok:

Here's an aerial shot from 1964 - slightly different from the GE view today.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-04-14C.jpg

I captured this (05:07 onwards) from the following BOAC file - also shows the roof.

BOAC Presents: The VC10 - 1964 Promo Film (Part 1 of 2) - YouTube

SH - You have control

SilentHandover
15th Apr 2012, 07:00
Thank you nvubu,
I cannot see this one on the list so here goes, adding the caveat that I am just in from the nightshift so may be dozy!

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n568/SilentHandover/SH5.jpg

nvubu
15th Apr 2012, 07:13
Guam Northwest Field

descol
15th Apr 2012, 10:38
Tinian north field - we may have had this before ?

SilentHandover
15th Apr 2012, 11:01
Well that lasted less than my post night shift nap! It is Guam Northwest Field YHC nvubu. :ok:

nvubu
15th Apr 2012, 11:05
Thank you - here's the next mystery or not as the case may be

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-04-15A.jpg

olympus
15th Apr 2012, 11:23
Kariba Airport (KAB) Zimbabwe?

Open House if correct.

nvubu
15th Apr 2012, 11:24
That didn't last long either as Kariba it is.

As olympus says - Open House

Lordflasheart
15th Apr 2012, 11:26
I see they've had the decorators in Hippo - is that a new coat of paint on the verandah fascia board ? :) LFH

nvubu
15th Apr 2012, 11:49
I think my paint job looks better than the original, although it didn't do much good :D

Lordflasheart
15th Apr 2012, 14:22
Open House ? Here's another mystery. LFH


http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/LFHWAD002.jpg

nvubu
15th Apr 2012, 14:33
Would that be at Iwakuni?

Lordflasheart
15th Apr 2012, 14:56
That was quick Hippo. Iwakuni it is :ok: - You have Control

You been taking Sabredog pills ? British Commonwealth Air Group, RAF 1315 Flight. This is some of the stuff they got up to - if I can get the size right. LFH



http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/AFCcitation.jpg?t=1334501477

nvubu
15th Apr 2012, 15:16
I found a front-on image that looked the same, and took a flyer.

I'm breaking the rules a little here as there are two aerodromes, but there is a link between them - I also wanted to include the 2nd one if only for the hats.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-04-15D.jpg


http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-04-15E.jpg

So where are they? and what is the link?

edit: I'll add - Who are they?

olympus
15th Apr 2012, 18:42
I'll try - No 1 - Athens. No 2 Baghdad. Both photos showing Luftwaffe personnel with aircraft disguised as Greek and Iraqi respectively.

nvubu
15th Apr 2012, 18:54
Well done - although both machines are disguised as Iraqi, you can just about make out the Iraqi insignia under the wing on the Me 110
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/75px-IQAF_Symbol_svg.png

The 2nd image is Mosul rather than Baghdad - the swastika has been painted over. Just love the hats.

The mission lasted less than a month.

Here's a most interesting article on it, with images (in German)

Nazis über Bagdad - einestages (http://einestages.spiegel.de/external/ShowTopicAlbumBackgroundXXL/a22615/l0/l0/F.html#featuredEntry)

Over to you olympus.

olympus
15th Apr 2012, 19:09
Thanks nvubu. My German wasn't up to getting a more accurate translation.

Open House.

Lordflasheart
15th Apr 2012, 19:45
"Hitler hatte von der Luftwaffe eine "heroische Geste" gegenüber seinen irakischen Waffenbrüdern gefordert."

Lit Tr - "The situation urgently calls for a futile heroic gesture to encourage our friends and we think you're just the very chap to lead it ..."

From the text, it seems Kommandant Junck wasn't very impressed with his assignment either.

From Tripod.com -

"By 1940 the Iraqi air force contained six air wings (planes were primarily of British and U.S. origin). In 1941, following the pro-Axis coup, the Iraqi armed forces faced an Allied intervention by predominantly British Commonwealth troops (mainly East Indians and Transjordanians); despite heavy numerical superiority and some meager assistance from the Vichy French in Syria as well as from a few German transport planes that supplied Iraq with some badly needed war materiel, the Iraqi armed forces were quickly routed. The Iraqi air force lost about 20 aircraft in the course of the brief struggle (out of a total of 56 that Iraq possessed at that time). A peace treaty very favourable to the Allies was immediately signed in the aftermath,

Followed soon after by the occupation of Persia as neatly described by John Masters in "Bugles and a Tiger." LFH

Noyade
16th Apr 2012, 12:18
Love the hats above :ok:
New one...

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6286/img577z.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/img577z.jpg/)

sabredog
16th Apr 2012, 13:02
Mustangs and Meteors of 77 Sqdn. R.A.A.F. Kimpo,Korea?

Noyade
16th Apr 2012, 13:18
Hello again SD.

Titled "Changing of the Guard" it is a Mustang and Meteors of No.77 Squadron, but the caption says it's in Japan (May 1951)....

sabredog
16th Apr 2012, 14:58
Prior to Korea, 77 Sqdn. was based at Iwakuni,they left in June,1951 .

Noyade
16th Apr 2012, 21:54
Iwakuni

:ok:

Your control Sabredog.

sabredog
17th Apr 2012, 07:58
Thank you,Noyade.
The next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz91.jpg

merlinxx
17th Apr 2012, 12:22
Why does that remind me of Embakasi ?

sabredog
17th Apr 2012, 12:36
Sorry,MerlinXX, not Embakasi.

olympus
17th Apr 2012, 14:04
It reminds me of Dunedin.

IIRC Embakasi's ramp was much bigger.

sabredog
17th Apr 2012, 16:11
Your memory serves you well,Olympus. Dunedin is correct.
YHC

olympus
17th Apr 2012, 17:12
It's Open House again...

descol
17th Apr 2012, 19:50
open house - then try this one

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/pprunesunday.jpg

SilentHandover
17th Apr 2012, 20:35
Lakeland Municipal aka Lodwick Field, FLA. OH if correct as I'm leaving the country for a few weeks. :ok:

descol
17th Apr 2012, 20:42
Yep - you got it silenthandover- open house declared

evansb
17th Apr 2012, 21:48
Speaking of leaving the country, here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/PANTS_ON_FIRE.jpg

merlinxx
17th Apr 2012, 23:42
Sorry folks, but t'was back in '69 when I was based in NBO:ugh: Too much Tusker, Whitecap & and the dreaded Waragi from over the boarder:E

Krakatoa
18th Apr 2012, 09:56
The only thing I can recognise is that well known football team British United.

sabredog
18th Apr 2012, 10:56
Squires Gate (Blackpool Airport)?

olympus
18th Apr 2012, 11:40
I know Blackpool Airport very well indeed; I'm also very familiar with Southampton Airport.

evansb
18th Apr 2012, 16:12
olympus is correct. It is Southampton. Your turn.
Here is a current photo of Southampton International:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/_47948724_sotonair41.jpg

olympus
18th Apr 2012, 18:13
Open House again...

olympus
18th Apr 2012, 19:04
I've found one I can't see on the list...

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/airfield25.jpg

CharlieOneSix
18th Apr 2012, 19:24
The Macaws at Manby?

olympus
18th Apr 2012, 19:44
Yes, the Macaws but not at Manby.

sabredog
18th Apr 2012, 20:05
Beauvais Airport.

olympus
18th Apr 2012, 20:55
Beauvais is correct. Over to you.

sabredog
18th Apr 2012, 21:42
Open House

olympus
19th Apr 2012, 12:56
This airfield may have appeared before but I don't think this photo has...(sorry it's so big; it's supposed to be 800 pixels).

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/mini-airfield26cr.jpg

Duckbutt
19th Apr 2012, 13:12
Acklington?

olympus
19th Apr 2012, 13:26
Not Acklington.

Lordflasheart
19th Apr 2012, 14:18
Scorton ? LFH

Kieron Kirk
19th Apr 2012, 14:21
Catterick.

Ciarain.

BSD
19th Apr 2012, 14:30
Great picture. Is it Hunsdon?

BSD.

chevvron
19th Apr 2012, 14:32
Dunno the airfield but what a lovely picture of an ideal multi purpose attack aircraft that woulldn't be too out of place in Libya/Afghanistan etc. OK it's ordnance load isn't the same as a Warthog but it must be close.

olympus
19th Apr 2012, 14:46
Good answers but so far not the one mentioned in the caption to the photo. The aircraft, as I am sure most of the experts on this forum know, is a Beaufighter of 219 Sqn.

nvubu
19th Apr 2012, 18:20
How about Kenley?

sabredog
19th Apr 2012, 18:35
Redhill Aerodrome?

Airclues
19th Apr 2012, 18:44
RAF Tangmere?

olympus
19th Apr 2012, 18:56
Tangmere it is! Airclues has control.

Airclues
19th Apr 2012, 19:08
I apologize for the fact that this airfield has been done before. However the top room of the tower has some very interesting aviation history.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc193/Airclues/IMG_0060-1.jpg

Dave

sabredog
19th Apr 2012, 19:22
R.A.F. Gütersloh

Airclues
19th Apr 2012, 19:28
Correct....sabredog has control.

I was in the "Goering Room" a couple of days ago. The "beam" still works although we had some difficulty finding the lever.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc193/Airclues/IMG_0900.jpg

Dave

sabredog
19th Apr 2012, 19:32
Thank you,Airclues.
Open House

olympus
19th Apr 2012, 21:01
Well, I for one have no idea of the significance of the beam and a lever in the 'Goering Room' at Gutersloh. Could you enlighten me please?

Airclues
19th Apr 2012, 23:18
olympus

During WW2, Herman Goering used to hold court with the ME109 pilots in this room in the Officers mess. Apparently he would say that "if an RAF aircraft ever flies over Germany then that beam will fall down". Although it seems a very career-limiting thing to do, some officers rigged up a devise that caused the beam to drop about three inches. The next time that Mr Goering made that statement, one (unknown) officer pulled the lever and the beam dropped.
I could tell you where the lever is, but I'd have to shoot you :)

The room is now preserved as a museum, with photos of Herr Goering and the full story of the room displayed on the walls.

Dave

sabredog has declared OPEN HOUSE

olympus
20th Apr 2012, 12:07
Very interesting Airclues, thank you.

olympus
20th Apr 2012, 12:55
Just to keep things moving...

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/mini-airfield27cr-1.jpg

evansb
20th Apr 2012, 16:26
Well, if you want to play "Name That Taxiway", I'll guess it is R.A.F. Banff...?

nvubu
22nd Apr 2012, 06:28
olympus - are you there ?

A pure quess - RAF Horsham St Faith

Krakatoa
22nd Apr 2012, 10:05
Could this have any connection with the film, 633 Squadron

olympus
22nd Apr 2012, 12:12
Sorry been away for a couple of days; should have said.

It's not Banff, Horsham St Faith or 633 Sqn. As best as I can tell from the narrative that accompanies the photo the Mossies are of 128 Sqn and the photo was taken in November 1944.

Airclues
22nd Apr 2012, 13:20
RAF Wyton

Open House if correct.

Dave

olympus
22nd Apr 2012, 15:18
Wyton it is.

Open House declared.

evansb
22nd Apr 2012, 17:45
Here is the next aerodrome challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD120422.jpg

sabredog
22nd Apr 2012, 18:19
R.A.F.Manby, Lincs.

evansb
22nd Apr 2012, 20:16
sabredog is correct.:ok: Over to you.

sabredog
23rd Apr 2012, 06:51
Thank you,Bri.
The next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz93-1.jpg

olympus
24th Apr 2012, 11:25
Is it Wethersfield?

Lordflasheart
24th Apr 2012, 12:02
Very good Oly ! :D - Howjadoit ? Wouldn't have got that in a month of Sundays LFH

http://rafwethersfield.com/patch2.jpg

sabredog
24th Apr 2012, 12:22
Correct,R.A.F. Wethersfield.
YHC

olympus
24th Apr 2012, 13:07
The easterly arrival into STN (299° off CLN then vectors, I seem to remember) took us very close to Wethersfield and I always had a good look at it. The only aeronautical activity I ever saw there was gliding. I was slightly put off by the dated, 1940s feel of the colour photo.

Try this one...

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/mini-airfield28cr.jpg

I won't divulge the squadron at the moment as that will give the game away.

sabredog
24th Apr 2012, 15:25
407 Sqn,R.C.A.F., R.A.F. North Coates,Lincs.

olympus
24th Apr 2012, 15:39
Not 407 nor North Coates, according to the caption accompanying the photo.

evansb
24th Apr 2012, 15:58
Hobsonville ?

olympus
24th Apr 2012, 16:12
Not Hobsonville. North Coates was nearer.

Lordflasheart
24th Apr 2012, 16:35
Leuchars, 224 Squadron ? LFH

sabredog
24th Apr 2012, 16:47
R.A.F.Bircham Newton

olympus
24th Apr 2012, 18:00
279 Sqn at RAF Bircham Newton, 1943.

Sabredog has control.

sabredog
24th Apr 2012, 18:25
Interesting,as 279 was an Air Sea rescue squadron,whereas the Hudsons in the challenge are obviously bomber versions. My reference for the same photograph,"Lockheed Hudson In World War11 by Andrew Hendrie p.43, has the caption for 407 Sqdn. R.C.A.F,North Coates, July 1941-Feb,1942.
Open House.

olympus
24th Apr 2012, 18:55
Interesting indeed Sabredog. After reading your earlier post I noticed the code letter NO5(?) on the watch tower railing which made me think that perhaps it was North Coates rather than Bircham Newton.

My source for the picture was Dinghy Drop, 279 Squadron RAF 1941-46 by T Docherty, page 80.

Duckbutt
25th Apr 2012, 13:42
Next one:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz68a.jpg

nvubu
25th Apr 2012, 17:59
Somewhere in Germany?

Duckbutt
25th Apr 2012, 18:57
Not in Germany, bit further to the East.

nvubu
25th Apr 2012, 19:11
Could it be Hradčany?

Duckbutt
25th Apr 2012, 19:36
Sorry, not Hradcany.

Duckbutt
26th Apr 2012, 07:45
This airfield is rather quiet these days but there on ongoing discussions as to whether this will change in the near future.

Earlier this century it saw a number of flights that could well have been described as extraordinary.

sabredog
26th Apr 2012, 08:38
Szczytno-Szymany,Poland? (Rendition Flights)

Duckbutt
26th Apr 2012, 08:48
Thats it Sabredog. Still very much classified but there is much evidence that rendition flights from the Middle East and North Africa routed through here en route to Cuba in 2003. Also that some of the detainees were waterboarded at a nearby facility.

sabredog
26th Apr 2012, 12:10
Thank you,DB, and apologies for the delay in presenting the next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz100-1.jpg

chevvron
26th Apr 2012, 13:29
A small corner of Baldonnell (Dublin) during filming of 'The Blue Max'.

Ridge Runner
26th Apr 2012, 15:59
Still very much classified but there is much evidence that rendition flights from the Middle East and North Africa routed through here en route to Cuba in 2003.

Mmm... we used to meet a number of the C-40/737 crews at the Marriott in Mallorca whilst on their stopovers for a similar purpose.

RR

sabredog
26th Apr 2012, 18:52
Not Baldonnell .

Lordflasheart
28th Apr 2012, 11:48
Summer (post harvest) Camp, somewhere on Salisbury Plain ? LFH

Russell Gulch
28th Apr 2012, 21:36
Syerston? .

sabredog
29th Apr 2012, 11:29
Syerston and Salisbury Plain are excellent guesses, but not correct. The photograph was taken in the early 1920s, and is to be found on the Web.
It has a geographical link to a mutiny!
Some of it's aircraft;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/quizclue.jpg

olympus
29th Apr 2012, 14:15
I'm guessing the mutiny is Invergordon in which case the airfield would be HMS Fieldfare/Novar/Evanton although I couldn't find either of the photos.

Open House if correct.

Lordflasheart
29th Apr 2012, 14:44
Invergordon the mutiny ? - in haste, Delny ? - Fearn ? more looking needed, kinda busy elsewhere. LFH

sabredog
29th Apr 2012, 16:22
Novar airfield is correct.
Olympus has declared ;
Open House.

evansb
29th Apr 2012, 18:09
Thanks for letting us know Novar is in Scotland.:rolleyes:

Am I being too demanding by asking for the country/state/province/territory of these mystery aerodromes? I usually supply them if it is not obvious.

sabredog
29th Apr 2012, 18:14
??
Check your P.Ms.

nvubu
29th Apr 2012, 18:56
As it is Open House, I guess this one won't last long.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/2012-04-29A.jpg

CharlieOneSix
29th Apr 2012, 23:20
Wigtown? Open House if correct.

nvubu
30th Apr 2012, 06:00
Wigtown/Baldoon it is.

The airfield today still looks to be fairly original, as aerial views of the land show that nearly all the perimeter and access roads remain visible, as do the roads to the various dispersal sites and installations belonging to the original airfield. As well as the roads, the concrete bases of many of the hangars and other buildings can still be seen on the ground.

To the SE (top of the picture) the tracked bombing range sitill exists.


As CharlieOneSix says - it's Open House

evansb
30th Apr 2012, 13:25
This one may prove difficult to solve:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD120430.jpg

sabredog
30th Apr 2012, 14:28
Luftwaffe Airfield Stendal,near Berlin,Germany.

evansb
30th Apr 2012, 15:19
sabredog is correct:ok: Well done.:D It is indeed Stendal, Germany. The photo was taken in August, 1944. You have control.

sabredog
30th Apr 2012, 16:47
Thank you, evansb.
The next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz101-1.jpg

sycamore
30th Apr 2012, 16:53
Ronaldsway ,IOM....OH if correct

sabredog
30th Apr 2012, 18:07
Correct. Ronaldsway Airport,Isle of Man,U.K.
Open House.

Duckbutt
30th Apr 2012, 19:05
Here's another:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz69.jpg

The caption on the pic says that it is almost certainly taken at location xxxx so I apologise in advance if someone comes up with a different location that they feel is correct.

sabredog
30th Apr 2012, 19:54
Hanchung (Hanzhong) Airfield?

olympus
30th Apr 2012, 20:09
Well, I found several examples of the photo, most of which were captioned as '...in China'. I will take a guess at Guangzhou.

wet wet wet
30th Apr 2012, 21:28
Changchou? D-AGES of Eurasia.

Duckbutt
30th Apr 2012, 22:37
What to say - it is China and the airline has been identified but the location according to the caption has not been mentioned.

Perhaps someone might try another name?

Incidentally, although one posting of this pic on the web gives the reg D-AGES, 'my' caption says it is actually XT-AGE.

wet wet wet
30th Apr 2012, 23:02
Don't know if it helps but Changchou can also be spelt (in English) as Zhangzhou.

Duckbutt
30th Apr 2012, 23:10
Appreciate what you are saying www but I'm not being pedantic, the name I have bears no resemblance to any of the names mentioned.

Incidentally it would seem that this particular aircraft was originally registered D-AGES earlier when it was with Lufthansa but later became XT-AGE with Euriasia.


Have to turn in now, no doubt someone will have another name when I return in the morning.

Duckbutt
1st May 2012, 10:22
As the challenge seems to be stalled, the name I have on my caption is Kunming. As I said earlier, if this is considered to be incorrect then I apologise.

Presumably a declaration of Open House is now the most appropriate way to go.

descol
1st May 2012, 11:12
if it is open house- try this one - I have not checked the list - but I suspect the airport has been listed before ? -nevertheless - it's pissing rain here in Dublin and pprune is entertaining me


http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/1may12.jpg

MReyn24050
1st May 2012, 11:41
Updated List of challenges can be found in the above sticky.

sabredog
1st May 2012, 11:44
Tunis Air Douglas DC-4 Skymaster at Paris Orly ,1957.

descol
1st May 2012, 12:34
yes it is sabredog - over to you
and thanks for the updated list Mel

sabredog
1st May 2012, 15:56
Thank you,descol.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quix102.jpg

olympus
1st May 2012, 16:30
Moody AFB, Georgia.

Open House if correct.

sabredog
1st May 2012, 16:42
Correct.
Open house has been declared

jindabyne
1st May 2012, 21:40
You guys know how to do it :hmm: