Which Aerodrome Mk III

[dook]

Since I don't know what that means I cannot answer.

But if you mean prison I don't think so.

[kenparry]

East or West of the old Iron Curtain?

[dook]

Neither - south of it.

[JENKINS]

Qrendi perhaps? Father of back seat chum flew Faith, Hope, and Charity.

[dook]

Not perhaps at all.

Back to you.

[JENKINS]

Thanks. 'South' was the clue.

Now this. Famous names of 65 years ago made me aware, and I was very young then.https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1544353430_323038a05d4a1ecfa76bf0de8d51131296 d5c3fb.jpg

[dook]

I have never seen black dots on a runway. The runway is "1" which is typically (and incorrectly) American.

No longer in use or newly constructed ?

[nvubu]

Sebring - it's a motor racing circuit on the left hand side of the image

[JENKINS]

Yes to Sebring, wonderful list of 12 hour winners. Apparently field still in use.

Chequered Flag to nvubu.

[nvubu]

I knew immediately I saw it that it was race circuit. Just couldn't remember the name off the top of my head.

Now we are going way back in time for the next challenge

https://nqppea.db.files.1drv.com/y4mF0_f6TWq-K2ZucHy_G6iEZM4oq2WKeiEutIlUmm-S6n9pJlQ3SM35upZ4uJ1lirDby1pWunJCG_k7HUB1Dtk44w39yVy5ZrPrMkq vns3-ROXG_RrmXSVbFHEodpG8-Zw1yzRn5EsixlaqCVbNFH16gJCvP193FMe_OwFF1ONBlnXWtKFjPK_ff2Nr1 oFEqZlzf5XBTglAA8p9Sz_qxKW2Q?width=600&height=387&cropmode=none

I do have more recent photos if this stumps you:ok:

[evansb]

How is "Runway 1 typically (and incorrectly) American" incorrect? It is the American way. Accept it. It is NOT incorrect. As per another example, most of the world drives on the right-hand side of the road. It is NOT incorrect.

[jensdad]

One has to be quick on this thread these days. Having said that I would still have been wrong on Qrendi as I was thinking Hal Far :)

[Self loading bear]

How is "Runway 1 typically and incorrectly American" incorrect? It is the American way. Accept it. It is NOT incorrect. As per another example, most of the world drives on the right-hand side of the road. It is NOT incorrect. Get over yourself. Snob.

In the same way, I like English motorbikes but the steer is on the wrong side!

SLB

[dook]

How is "Runway 1 typically (and incorrectly) American" incorrect? It is the American way. Accept it. It is NOT incorrect

Try four little letters - ICAO.

And I am not a snob, despite your edit.

If you wish to be rude, I'll leave the thread.

[evansb]

America doesn't abide by the ICAO aircraft registration protocol either. So what? The opposite end of Runway 1 is probably Runway 19. I am not American. America can do what ever it wants. I like America. I fly in my private aircraft to America every two years. It is a pleasure.

The mystery aerodrome? A 1908 demonstration tour? Looking at the style of hats and caps, I am thinking America.

[JENKINS]

Not sure about the crowd line. This aircraft does not appear to be the sole focus of attention, so perhaps an Air Meeting like Rheims?

[nvubu]

Glad we are back to the subject. :)
It was an event held in conjunction with an automobile show, and was the 2nd year of the event (which was held in a different city the previous year). .
Not 100% sure if it took place at the airfield in question. but the airfield was constructed in this year and was the first airfield in this city. This image is from the following year - I did say I had some later images :)

https://qyvamw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mZSVGcldgb4Y4v_1B5qfINmGVEjOYFXkygl6_4L1qD3x1QHnqUNZQL8yHT lqCUfCc0NOZBd4hg7d64MwSb9U-4S_xmfehQtiZKA8Ns5Z6c6Flup5WuZ6DcMO3231DPlNrbWEgWd-2b2KQqLKb3fjfPCEW5XfqZLO3uDCp_jXLU1gBMVTq9KDto5JGn4chld6FEIa NoClC6ix33jOfw9GUDA?width=600&height=108&cropmode=none

[dook]

Maryland ?

[evansb]

Cicero Flying Field, Chicago ?

[nvubu]

This field isn't in the USA

[evansb]

Issy-les-Moulineaux, France ?

[nvubu]

It isn't Issy-les-Moulineaux.

[creweite]

Reims in 1909? I have a Science Museum repro poster for that event.

[nvubu]

It isn't in Reims.
There was one of these hangers there. Well that image didn't appear :(

This one may help you

https://zlgyka.db.files.1drv.com/y4mqlSTCtKPoxqBvb4xLZXCCA5tOfL0jhFACmtHKR-Qv4hAgZaX5ZaWeH7LPjZgxDEmjtWK5HsHt7rVablvSnrsZnOAhI_FYqwWorj eHJr4g7R2FGvXQQm0ZjbkdpQ39pM1Cxt5sPUV8QjICD1ubFZgEFoCfI4hBs-cnftOQPW4uwiE8_mKNSEw_yP89wETRcezJBookKv2xIWTysFPXl4BZA?widt h=600&height=230&cropmode=none

Off to bed now.

[dook]

They certainly look like Nieuports, which is seducing me into thinking France.

Issoudun ?

[nvubu]

I did Issoudun a fair while back, so not there.
You need to be looking at another country.

[dook]

I have been trying to identify the markings in your last picture but to no avail.

They appear to be civilian and possibly at a training airfield.

Holland or Italy ?

[nvubu]

I thought you might be doing that - I haven't obscured anything.
I think you are right with both your points of your second sentence - as we are still pre-war.

Do these help you answer your third sentence?
https://mprl1q.db.files.1drv.com/y4mOlmnkhCzBkIzKI5gCW6tCfCvoD8rCUqmvbGQf-RkK2D356TAWtqMEuyte3lN_1-piKul3R9RFVPv89MznUodzgaYkK9H_HSDPsY-81MGxvxpnx-RzbTbmTiLx1FfWwD_-sKjWPGCxSLxiGbaHPU8A-UF7XxJe_UOJCURdRxfmLGtReFvbbB0r53rzsV7OzIDlFqkYU1tn6EunrZ9wj AwXg?width=1024&height=756&cropmode=none

The crew of the above
https://nqpnea.db.files.1drv.com/y4mwvXdvu-48p48N3ASWkB5_2lCXxv2yB_x4Vz93qzm2pFWQyADCSJ54nMf0kij7r6Ban0 X4rJdSsALjxgUWX-M77E8bP3_M008ek_VUffompw1IT5OrHAp8_-7aw0cxm5Vc8G8F4CJhmRFp8zySvBRfFo5smw4rzOshBexF8zmJ0F1yydDFs8 VsIahazbB3HFBguLrkfvkv_q1S0G4Q31wAw?width=769&height=1024&cropmode=none

[JENKINS]

Centocelle, Rome?

[nvubu]

Jenkins now has the correct country. Centocelle is for another time though.

My next set of images (WWII) may well give it away :)

[dook]

I'm sure I asked if was Italy above.

[nvubu]

You did - I posted a couple of images to help you decide which one.

The airfield no longer exists - was abandoned after WWII.

[dook]

Is it the original Turin ?

[nvubu]

And what might that be called and where/what is it now ?

[dook]

I don't know.

[nvubu]

Any help.

The airfield is about 2/3 the way up the left hand side of the image, going off the edge.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/724x768/20181210_01_d1da7b8cd93d47db1c4b8653ef1712a5f583da3b.jpg

[dook]

All I have been able to find is an old Pathe newsreel captioned Turino AKA.

Over and out.

[Asturias56]

It looks as if it is now the Parco Publica Gustavo Colonnetti in Turin

Was it Idroscalo Turin - an old seaplane base on the Po?? Doesn't look like the other older airport at Cerrina which is kms away further east

[dook]

Perhaps the airfield was called Mirafiori.

[Asturias56]

I think that's it Dook................... it was also "Gino Lisa" I think when the Aeroclub Turin were there

[Imagegear]

I agree:

Aeroporto Militare Carlo Piazza e campo volo Gino Lisa (Mirafiori)

Gino Lisa (http://www.museotorino.it/view/preview/2529c46a03fd48989ebadf80423fe446)In 1911 Mirafiori was the first airport in Turin, used for both civil and military purposes. Entitled to the aviators Carlo Piazza and Gino Lisa, the flying field played an important role in the history of Italian aeronautics until the fifties. During the Second World War, it was bombed, on the night of 13 July 1943, by the RAF.

1. History of the building
2. Bombing

1. History of the building


At the beginning of the nineteenth century Italy experienced a period of intense development in the field of aeronautics and Turin became an important center for this sector, arousing the interest of the industry and the curiosity of the citizens.
The first test of flight in Turin, carried out by the French pilot Léon Delagrange on July 8th 1908, gathered a large audience of spectators in Piazza d'Armi.
In a short time in the Piedmontese capital, the industries dedicated to the design and production of aircraft (Chiribiri, Miller, SIT, Pomilio, Fiat) are multiplying and the Mirafiori field becomes the site for the testing of the equipment and the first aviation races.
In 1911, on the occasion of the celebrations of the fiftieth anniversary of the Unification of Italy, the flight field became the first civilian and military airport in Turin, as well as the most important in Italy.
After the opening of a flying school in 1912 and in conjunction with the start of the Libyan war, the airport acquires a more marked military function.
A debate has been open for some time on the name of Mirafiori airport. The official name is "Regio Aeroporto Carlo Piazza", in honor of the Italian aviation soldier and pioneer; but the area designated for civil use is commonly referred to as the "Gino Lisa Flight Field", aviator and war hero.
Starting from the second post-war period, gradually losing its military and civil functions, the Mirafiori airport was demolished.
On the field once occupied by the flying field, the first nucleus of the Research Area of ​​the National Research Council is built and since 1977 it has been the seat of the Gustavo Colonnetti Park, an important mathematician from Turin.

Easily visible on GE Pro set to 1943, the OP's picture is on the site.

IG

[nvubu]

Asturias56 has the name now - Parco Colonnetti . I've got pictures of Idroscalo Turin, and they were going to be for another challenge - maybe not for a while now.

dook has the name of the airfield when it was in use - Mirafiori, and the first airfield in Turin, built in 1910. The second airfield was where the Aeroclub are now based.

Fiat have a plant close by - the buildings with the loop test track, which is still present today. Fiat named the Fiat 131, the Mirafiori.

There used to be a very comprehensive history of flying in Turin on the Aeroclub website - only available now via the way back machine (https://web.archive.org/web/20180321072334/http://www.aeroclubtorino.it:80/history/1909-1915.html#Gino%20Lisa). - this is the section about Gino Lisa and the Aero Club.

In June of 1921, the sports aviation section (S.A.T.) of the Mirafiori airfield was renamed at a moving ceremony to honour the memory of Gino Lisa, Military Gold Medal for Valour, a young man who had learned to fly there, volunteered for the war, and at 21 years of age gave his life for his country, shot down trying to protect a colleague.The S.A.T. thus became known as the “Aerocentro Gino Lisa”, a denominati***on which was later changed to the “Aero Club Gino Lisa di Torino”.


I'm going to give this one to dook as he named the airfield correctly. Well persevered, and over to you.


Edit to add:
On the 28th of March 1923, the day when the “Arma Aeronautica” (the Air Force) gained its independence from the Army, becoming an autonomous service, the military area at Mirafiori was named after Col. Carlo Maria Piazza (Busto Arsizio 1871 – Milan 1917), pioneer of military aviation (Military Pilot’s Licence No. 1) and decorated with the Silver Medal for Valour.

[Asturias56]

Agreed - I'd never have thought of Turin until Dook spotted it - then the FIAT works was a dead giveaway.................... I drive past it often enough.............

[dook]

Many apologies for the late reply.

http://i64.tinypic.com/25u047a.jpg

[BSD]

Western Australia?

[nvubu]

I keep thinking PNG - no idea why though.

[Terry Dactil]

It looks like hang-gliders to me.

[chevvron]

It looks like hang-gliders to me.
More like weightshift microlights

[Terry Dactil]

Yep. That's the term I could not think of (for a powered hang glider thingy that uses a runway). :ok:

[dook]

Not Australia or PNG.

I don't think hang gliders will help.

[kenparry]

Are we N or S of the equator? (for some coarse-grained narrowing down!)

[dook]

North.

Would you like something else which will probably help ?

[kenparry]

Yes please!

[dook]

Although northern hemisphere, it's south of the tropic of Cancer.

[kenparry]

Thanks: next, E or W longitude?

[dook]

West...……..

[dook]

I have a full overhead view if required.

[dook]

Another view

http://i68.tinypic.com/3533xba.jpg

[JENKINS]

Port Allen Hawaii?

[dook]

Thar ye go.

Lights - music - curtain...….

[JENKINS]

Thanks. Ken Parry asked the questions, the single runway designator narrowed the likely locations.

Now this. Proposal to make it a 'Park and Ride' https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1544219430_a7687f89ce42a28c2ace788855ad496871 3da8e0.jpg
car park was turned down.

[dook]

Charmy Down.

[JENKINS]

Of course it is. All yours.

[dook]

Many thanks.

http://i66.tinypic.com/qyxov9.jpg

[Shackman]

Looks like Grove (from the North)

[Self loading bear]

Looks like Grove (from the North)

Could be
Now on Google Maps it shows various trenches dug dug cris cross the runways
Does somebody know what is that for?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/690x807/e743d80c_40d3_4063_bfe5_84ce4e3a30e1_98018ee035d52829a8d7e9b fd3037b06430b6aa0.jpeg
SLB

[chevvron]

Maybe Phil Harding lives near there.;)
When there was an outstation of Harwell here (early '60s), did you know they used to transfer small amounts of radioactive material between sections using a Hornby Dublo model railway?
Not a lot of people know that.:8

[dook]

It's not Grove but it is in England.

[nvubu]

dook - are you sure?

When I manipulate a GE image of RAF Grove it looks exactly as your does.

[chevvron]

dook - are you sure?

When I manipulate a GE image of RAF Grove it looks exactly as your does.
The built up area to the east (left) and the research station to the west (right) match up too.

[dook]

I have checked against GE by searching with the name.

Similar images as on GE come up in Geograph and some other sites.

It no longer exist as an airfield and I am happy to post further clues.

[nvubu]

A quick copy from GE of Grove near Wantage
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/668x600/grove_medium_6459eb3df9459c8643ef4ed7213352fabee574e9.jpg

[dook]

Three or four sites list it as Bircham Newton but I agree that it really must be Grove.

I'll withdraw it and offer it to anyone who has suggested Grove since Shakman isn't around.

Off you go chaps.

[chevvron]

Three or four sites list it as Bircham Newton but I agree that it really must be Grove.

I'll withdraw it and offer it to anyone who has suggested Grove since Shakman isn't around.

Off you go chaps.
Bircham Newton (Norfolk; a few miles NW of Sculthorpe) never had hard runways but has got 3 'C' type hangars which are still standing.

[dook]

Agreed.

Does anyone have the next ?

[Shackman]

Apologies - away most of the day. Here is a more esoteric one.Sorry as well for using Google earth.

Clues - It was RAF and in the UK. Unfortunately I can't find any pictures of it in its heyday.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1570x954/raf__25224183d7ba6602ed6856439c55da66b9226189.jpg

[dook]

Glad you're back.

[Shackman]

If it helps, there are now houses on the original dispersal/hangar area.

[nvubu]

I'll start with Sawbridgeworth.

[Self loading bear]

Maybe Phil Harding lives near there.;)


I had to search that Phil on Google but yes,
Harding as being Archeologist since 1971 must have looking for his own skeleton.

SLB

[Shackman]

nvubu - go west young man

[dook]

Are we in Gloucestershire ?

[chevvron]

I had to search that Phil on Google but yes,
Harding as being Archeologist since 1971 must have looking for his own skeleton.

SLB
Was a stalwart on 'Time Team'; always wanted to dig new trenches.

[chevvron]

Northleach Glos?

[Shackman]

Sorry, no to Northleach. A bit further north.

[kenparry]

I have found reference to a field at Temple Guiting, which fits north of Northleach, but can't find an image or anything on GE that matches. Anywhere close to there?

[Shackman]

My 'bit' further North is about 100k/70m from Temple Guiting

[kenparry]

OK, so not Glos. 70 sm goes to about Stoke: are we in Staffs? Absence of hard surfaces suggest a WW1 field?

[dook]

I think we must be.

Near Alton ?

[Shackman]

WW11 only - and to narrow it down further, Shropshire.

[dook]

Bridleway Gate ?

[Shackman]

D - Congratulations and Correct.

Having said that I don't think I'll use any of the little used RLGs again.

All yours

[dook]

I'm spending Christmas at Clun.

Stand by.....

[dook]

This one isn't hidden.

http://i67.tinypic.com/x7qde.jpg

[chevvron]

Too easy - Woodhall Spa and OH.

[dook]

I thought an easy one would be the order of the day after the last one.

OH

[Asturias56]

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/img_8171_a719b5b216399efe815a7586a846997cfc127961.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Avia Sur on the hangar,
business aviaton
Santiago Chili

Cheers SLB

[Asturias56]

Yes. Once I loaded it I realised it was higher definition than the preview pane showed and so it was a bit easier than intended

over to Bear

[Self loading bear]

Yes. Once I loaded it I realised it was higher definition than the preview pane showed and so it was a bit easier than intended

over to Bear

Thanks, we all learn by mistakes.
Learn from the mistakes of others you dont have time to make them all yourselve.

i will try a cryptic one:

An author did write
That here an aircraft took flight
Now no planes land
Does only the terminal stand
It was not a hornet that flew that night

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/713x1055/2f6205a0_2816_48a3_8d05_37751752a10e_7e6bbb98e2c36391838832e d1aba9e1c762e748c.jpeg

SLB

[Asturias56]

Carefully blotted out the number plate eh Bear?

I'd have said that all those electric wires made it NOTt UK but the multicolored sign on the fence reminds me of sites I've seen in the UK and that looks like a UK pedestrian road crossing back left - and maybe a Celtic Cross on the memorial on the left hand side? Difficult to tell but those vehicles look right hand drive as well - doesn't look like Japan or Indonesia..... so I'd guess UK

"Not a hornet" but maybe a Mosquito???? that would make it Hatfield ???

[dook]

But no yellow lines with vehicles parked on pavement.

Could be Australia but I am seduced by UK except for the poles.

Carefully blotted out the number plate eh Bear?

It's a Google street view image and all number plates are blurred.

[Flap40]

I think the Celtic cross is more significant and i'm sure that i've seen power lines like that in Eire. Now why would you have a tower that looks across a public road?

A hunch and a quick google leads me to believe it might be Foynes.

OH if correct.

[dook]

Yep - the flying boat museum.

It's been up before on another competition site to which I subscribe.

[grizzled]

During WW 2

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/778x268/dec_13_1_c15c67b60c7dc3cc1ad8d0505106bf129e3a37cc.jpg

[dook]

You've nicked that from my future challenges portfolio !

[grizzled]

Which we both may have nicked from the same source -- or not... :)

If noboby else gets involved in the next hour, tell me where it is and you'll be up (so start getting another challenge ready...)

[dook]

Issa on Farcebook you Tof. :)

[grizzled]

Oh, that's funny. I didn't know that (I dont use FB) and I got it from a local archives site (which tells you the area of the globe I'm living in).

Tell me (and the rest of the huge global audience) where it is and take it away...

[Self loading bear]

I think the Celtic cross is more significant and i'm sure that i've seen power lines like that in Eire. Now why would you have a tower that looks across a public road?

A hunch and a quick google leads me to believe it might be Foynes.

OH if correct.

Flap is correct
Foynes
Also a stopover in Night flight of Ken Follet
in the Limerick county

But solved by other leads

Open House is already filled by Grizzled
with Dook out of competition?

Cheers SLB

[grizzled]

SLB... That's a good question. I'm not sure of the official pprune rules but I assumed that dook was voluntarily taking himself out of the competition by saying he had the same photo ready to use at some point. But I'm happy to simply hand control to dook if he wants to take control (after providing the aerodrome name).

[dook]

I thought someone else would want a shot.

Tofino.

[JENKINS]

I will try. Momote?

[dook]

I've answered it ^^^^^

[grizzled]

Sorry Jenkins -- you were just two minutes too late -- re dook's offer to let someone else take a shot.
Indeed it has a similarity to Momote, and is on the correct ocean, but Momote and Tofino (the correct answer) are about as far apart as two places on the same ocean can be.
So yes, RCAF Station Tofino, circa 1943. Take it away dook. And get ready to play again, Jenkins... :)

[dook]

BTW grizzled - I don't use Facebook either but my wife does.

I did say Issa on Farcebook you Tof
but nobody seemed to notice.
http://i67.tinypic.com/106jznm.jpg

[Self loading bear]

I have seen this one lately during searching or it already featured as challenge?
Deep thinking, my mind wanders off....,,

SLB

[nvubu]

I think we've had this one in the last couple of months.

[dook]

I really don't think it's been up before.

[Asturias56]

If that is a badminton court we're looking at UK, Denmark, Indonesia, Malaysia, China

If it's volleyball it could be just about anywhere.........................

[sycamore]

It`s a girls beach volleyball court,with viewing gallery...

[dook]

Good imagination sycamore.

I don't know what the building is but the airport is in northern Europe, very northern.

flytrafikk

[sycamore]

Maybe the `mythical` Swedish girls netball team training ground...and I did meet them once ..in Luxor....

[chevvron]

I think we've had this one in the last couple of months.
I think so too.

[dook]

Then who posted it and when ?

And the girls aren't Swedish.

[Self loading bear]

Then who posted it and when ?

And the girls aren't Swedish.

Norway Stavanger

SLB

[Asturias56]

Doesn't someone keep up a database of challenges???

[jensdad]

Doesn't someone keep up a database of challenges???
I thought that as well. With the pace of this thread now, in some parts of the world at least I think we're going to run out of airfields pretty soon :) I know Newcastle has been in at least twice. Doesn't massively bother me as long as they are interesting photos.

[dook]

Mel used to keep a record of challenges and certainly did for Mks 1 & 2 of this thread.

Meanwhile, slb has the thread.

[grizzled]

It's quick and easy to check if a particular aerodrome has been uses as a challenge, at least on this MK III version of the thread: Simply go to the top right side of the page you are viewing and click on "Search This Thread". Type in the name of the aerodrome you want to use and/or the associated city. It will then display the post and date, if it has been used. Voila. As this thread goes back more than seven years that's a reasonable cut off -- or perhaps the group could agree on a different timeframe between posting of duplicate aerodromes (3 years, 5 years, whatever...) and a Mod could post a sticky with the rules. If no one wants to assume the task and responsibility of record keeping, a simple search will generally suffice.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/785x236/snip_re_thread_search_f5a890a2c58bbb7c02be0279eef5133f7441ce 5c.jpg

Grizzled

[nvubu]

I'm going to get the spreadsheet (https://1drv.ms/x/s!AsBD9MvRbikxl3cYfdKz-hT8F_At) of airfields up to date over Christmas.

There are a fair number that have appeared more than once - I've had a couple of them, A number have had their images deleted, so you don't know if which pictures have been used before. Some people delete their posts - which can cause a bit of confusion - especially in the spreadsheet where originally the challengers were referenced by page - I've switched to by date.

It would be nice of it could be pinned to the top of the forum as it gets lost in the general thread.

[Self loading bear]

Meanwhile, slb has the thread.

sorry to keep you waiting.

Next one is on aircraft ID
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/729x845/fce1a6b4_379b_4adc_a1f5_56a3fe9fb975_594e2f53aae298835ec0b2b b9f8361b204244ba9.jpeg

[dook]

What a star nvubu.

In the past some people have deleted their images as soon as the challenge has been solved. There is one person whose name I sometimes see on this site who did it regularly. There is no need to do so.

I am a member of another site where the location of the challenge has to be guessed. It's been running for five years and no posts or images have ever been removed. What might be a factor is that no image hosting sites are required and the thread is not at the mercy of them.

Images may now be directly uploaded to here.

[Self loading bear]

What a star nvubu.

In the past some people have deleted their images as soon as the challenge has been solved. There is one person whose name I sometimes see on this site who did it regularly. There is no need to do so.

I am a member of another site where the location of the challenge has to be guessed. It's been running for five years and no posts or images have ever been removed. What might be a factor is that no image hosting sites are required and the thread is not at the mercy of them.

Images may now be directly uploaded to here.

If the one person posts again it might be handy that you reply with quoting the images (and your first guess) then the images are saved under 2 different posters.

SLB

Dook, where did you found the Stavanger tower?
Because i am sure I saw the beachvolleybal field before. But it might have been when I was searching the Nordic for suitable photos for a new quest.

[nvubu]

Connie …….. ?

[dook]

Dook, where did you found the Stavanger tower

Google street view.

[dook]

I would say that's certainly a Constellation.

[dook]

Aguadilla-Borinquen (or Rafael Hernández), Puerto Rico.

[Self loading bear]

Dook has a straight hit

Rafael Hernández International Airport
in Puerto Rico.
It looks if the whole Airport has been renovated around it.
It must have been there for ages.

Over to Dook

[dook]

It's been there since February 1992 when it was hit by a runaway DC-4.

[dook]

I've put this through the search Sorry - no matches.


http://i65.tinypic.com/amzhgk.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Then it should be easy as we can eliminate all Airports already covered!

SLB

[dook]

The search indicates that it has not been done before...….so it's easy now...…..

[Self loading bear]

The second Greece island was a hit
Maleme on Crete.

OH

SLB

[dook]

Nicely done.

OH

[India Four Two]

In view of the posts above, I should point out that this aerodrome may have been done before. However, it's a nice picture:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/499x353/wad_2018_12_13_ef79bb6627437e569822aa5cba6291ab026c8ef4.jpg

[Checklist Charlie]

I suspect that's Fishermans Bend in Melbourne Australia.
Not there anymore though. OH if so.
CC

[India Four Two]

I knew it wouldn't last long. Fishermans Bend airfield and the CAC factory on the banks of the Yarra River in Melbourne. Long gone - an industrial area now, where Holden engines were built until GMH ceased production in 2017.

Charlie has declared Open House

[Dora-9]

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/909x960/fishermans_bend_7c19cdcde0af37dd5642a3d847606dc14e033830.jpg

Here you go.

[BSD]

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/615x1027/4fee9d8e_400a_4df3_be55_e4b83e01b633_6d0b01c1846351eb79f31ff 659f2b3c868ecaf60.jpeg

Try this one as it’s open house.

[nvubu]

Railway, Grid street layout, maybe a running track or horse racing, hottish climate?
Somewhere in the southern USA?

[dook]

I just Goggled "old airfield on bend in river".

Up comes an image from the other direction which states that it's Perth / Maylands, but it doesn't quite look right so maybe not.

http://i64.tinypic.com/vrzjh3.jpg

[BSD]

Maylands in Perth is correct. Darn, you guys are good!

[dook]

Well, I'm certainly not one of them.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2zsd9jk.jpg

[nvubu]

Arizona ….?

[DIBO]

Grand Canyon West Airport - K1G4, USA - Arizona

[dook]

Just how did you find that so quickly ?

You have the thread.

[DIBO]

Just how did you find that so quickly ?

Started googling photos of Twotters
Noticed that very few have a black radome and spotted some black nosed Twotters with reeeallly big windows (which, when looking closer, was the same on your photo) of Grand Canyon Scenic Airlines.
Came across this photo https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8264426 of the mountain ridge with a dent or two, which was the same as on your photo (just above the open Caravan door) indicating Grand Canyon West Airport as a very likely candidate.
Narrowed down the search and came across this photo https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/6281904 -> bingo on the building :)

You have the thread.

OH I'm afraid.

[dook]

Excellent hunting !

[JENKINS]

To fill the space, while I watch rugby, try this. Once again, been there but once.https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1544696440_6c4524215d0d927373725724b2f80b1006 720b74.jpg

[kaikohe76]

As an opening shot, Military, possibly Auz.

[JENKINS]

Military, not Aus, but with a modicum of GA use.

[Auxtank]

What sport would be played on that odd looking field at the top left of the pic I wonder?

[JENKINS]

This country lists rugby among its sports, though failed to qualify for 2019 World Cup.

[Auxtank]

I knew it. I saw the green green grass of home (UK)

[dook]

Eastern Europe ?

[kaikohe76]

Picking up on Dook`s suggestion of Eastern Europe, Romania back in the 1970s to 1990s had quite a formidable national rugby team. That said, possibly too much greenery & also everything too neat & tidy looking. My friend who has just bought me a cuppa, has just said is it Spain?

[Auxtank]

Picking up on Dook`s suggestion of Eastern Europe, Romania back in the 1970s to 1990s had quite a formidable national rugby team. That said, possibly too much greenery & also everything too neat & tidy looking. My friend who has just bought me a cuppa, has just said is it Spain?

The hangars lead me to believe my earlier assumption of Blighty might be wrong. But surely, the surrounding terrain looks too fertile for sunny Spain?

[JENKINS]

Not Eastern Europe and not Spain. I gather Georgian props are a valuable commodity in the game these days. Spain may have been in the thoughts of the builders of this field at its inception.

[nvubu]

Assuming Europe & Jenkins rugby clue, these are the countries that have been eliminated from the World cup next year.

Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Cyprus,Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Hungary, Israel, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Moldova, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine

Hmmmmm…. doesn't really narrow it down :)

edit: crossed with Jenkins post, so some countries eliminated.

[JENKINS]

Europe assumption correct. One must surmise that at the time of the publication regarding the 2019 RWC list this country was still in with a chance of qualifying, since it is not on the list.

[nvubu]

From here https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/qualifying/europe
Germany is listed as "In progress"?

[JENKINS]

So, that's the country. Good effort but Samoa too strong. Now for the field?

[chevvron]

What sport would be played on that odd looking field at the top left of the pic I wonder?
Looks more like a pure athletics stadium than footy or rugger.

[kaikohe76]

Munich area possibly?

[dook]

Is it in what was formerly the DDR ?

[dook]

As it's military, is it other than a German air force base ?

[JENKINS]

Not DDR, and not particularly close to Munich. A former Luftwaffe base, but no longer.

Sorry for delay, Salisbury Hospital since 0400.

[dook]

Niederstettten.

I hope you are not unwell.

[JENKINS]

Yes, Niederstetten. Former Luftwaffe but current Army. Pedantry, sorry!

All OK, huge variety of health problems take me to Odstock. This was 0400 arrival at A&E, now clear for home, 1500. Wife and I visit Derriford in Plymouth wherein lies wife sister from Kingsbridge. Hospital chaotic, but ward cheerful with several military staff. One expressed a desire for an Aeromed posting. I explained that my first Aeromed had been off the grass at Plymouth in 1970.

A vous.

[dook]

Took a bit of finding.

http://i63.tinypic.com/avfyv9.jpg

[nvubu]

Still in Germany?

[dook]

Not this time.

There is a clue to it's use in the image.

[Self loading bear]

Military use
Would this mean military only?
Fairly dry and sandy soil.

SLB

[dook]

Yes - military.

I think the image was taken in the summer and the grass appears dry. It's not sandy there to the best of my knowledge.

[sycamore]

Poland or Czech ...?

[dook]

The former.

Rosyjskie samoloty

[nvubu]

Świdwin

Lot of highway strips in Poland.

[sycamore]

Thread drift for `dook`,
there`s a big green cat prowling around B`waters....

[dook]

nvubu gets a direct hit.

sycamore - a green Jaguar ? Wheressa ?

[sycamore]

Dook,next to W`Bridge...
XX741

[dook]

Got B`waters but not W`Bridge.

Have now. Too many pops.

[nvubu]

Thanks dook.
I'm going to declare an Open House for this as I've just found my next challenge but I don't want to rush it as I want to look at the images and read the text first.

[dook]

sycamore,

That's one Jaguar which isn't in my logbooks.

[mgahan]

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x805/24231980_10154991477435493_2435611674138100550_n_fab56f74658 aef329d444c28105e108e4bfe9951.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/792x960/24177153_10154991477420493_4642286642203492996_n_9669fd91cb5 80eae068ceae6fe2920b46ab748dd.jpg
Some clues in the old but you'd be wise not to pitch your tent too close.

MJG

[nvubu]

Are we in Australia?

[chimbu warrior]

Darwin by any remarkable chance?

[Checklist Charlie]

I'm thinking Oakey Army Aviation.

CC

[dook]

There's enough evidence to suggest military and the tower at Oakey is a perfect match.

http://i66.tinypic.com/icmoia.jpg

[mgahan]

Who to choose?
CC "thought" and Dook made a perfect match!


Let's allow CC to take the lead.

MJG
[My attempt at a cryptic clue was "Welcamp".]

[mgahan]

The Army Aviation centre has had an interesting past.

I was on duty in Amberley tower in the early 1970's when the Cessna's, Porters, Kiowa's and Bell 47's which compromised 16ALA took off, headed East (yes, East) and then overflew for Oakey en masse.
MJG

[dook]

G'day mate.

Definitely goes to CC.

[Checklist Charlie]

OH folks. Nothing in my phone to test you all.

CC

[dook]

I have a 'phone but have not used it for about eight months. I don't go around bumping into people or lamp posts.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2j0y33m.jpg

[Imagegear]

Just too easy: That's Deci to the well acquainted.

IG

[dook]

I knew someone would recognise it easily.

Some good stories about that place.

Over to you.

[Imagegear]

Thank you Dook, said in my best Yorkshire accent:

While Mme Image and I were visiting a French Lady for tea the other day, she brought out her album.

I thought, here is a serious challenge and so I reproduce it here for your contemplation.

I also believe that some among us have visited, or operated from here in the past

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/681x320/nostalgia_cd253c4f9df00c0ba4d19d68f2f21b727fad125d.jpg


IG

[dook]

All I can make out is what I think is a TWA Connie.

Are we in France by any chance ?

[Imagegear]

Not France,

A bit more of a clue, a large, almost oriental, tropical island


IG

[chimbu warrior]

Might it be Duong Dong airport, Vietnam? OH if correct.

[dook]

Indonesia ?

[Imagegear]

Quite a way from Vietnam I'm afraid, this will be more familiar to most who have visited:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1055x348/monsoon_be85a94d6626d1e5c2d149d2f0bf88cdb07972e4.jpg

IG

[chevvron]

Christmas (humbug) Island?

[sycamore]

Sri Lanka (Ceylon)....?

[dook]

I asked if it was Indonesia but you new image might be Ceylon. Looking

[dook]

Katunayake ? It was a V-force staging post.

[kenparry]

Are we in the Pacific? If so, French-speaking Polynesia?

[Imagegear]

Sycamore is on the money

[dook]

Am I wrong then with Katunayake ?

[Imagegear]

My apologies Dook, had to go out and replenish ship's biscuit.

You are indeed correct - however: It was originally known as RAF Negombo

The airport began as a Royal Air Force base during the Second World War, RAF Negombo. In 1957, when SWRD Bandaranaike removed all the British Military Bases from Sri Lanka (Ceylon), the base was handed over to the Royal Ceylon Air Force (RCyAF) and renamed Katunayake. Part of it still remains an Air Force base.

In 1964 Anil Moonesinghe, the Minister of Communications, commenced the building of a new international airport to replace Ratmalana, with Canadian aid. The new airport was completed in 1967, and Air Ceylon, the National Carrier, commenced international operations from it using a Hawker Siddeley Trident and a leased BOAC BAC VC-10. The airport was also a Trans World Airlines (TWA) hub for a short time.

It was named Bandaranaike International Airport (BIA), after SWRD Bandaranaike, in 1970. It was renamed Katunayake International Airport in 1977 but was changed back to Bandaranaike International Airport in 1995

Over to you Sir,

IG

[dook]

Thank you. I found it by investigating Valiants in Ceylon 1955.

http://i63.tinypic.com/347w6rb.jpg

[Asturias56]

Rather grim strip but looks as if a lot of buildings have been removed - and a lovely looking road around it .... are we in S E Asia again?

[dook]

There never were many buildings there.

We're a long way from SE Asia and it is occasionally still in use by certain aircraft types.

[Asturias56]

not much in the way of rubber or landing marks ... so light aircraft? And that loop off the road is v interesting......... some small ?craters? off the right end of the runway center line??

Assume north is to the top the picture was taken at 15:00 ish N hemisphere with quite long shadows - so middling to north-ish latitudes??

Is that a river or the sea bottom left?

[dook]

It is orientated to true north.

There are no craters there as far as I know.

To the bottom left is a small inlet and we are less than a mile from the sea.

Not light aircraft - purely military.

The absence of rubber or landing marks is because of helicopter and VTOL jets.

Who still operates VTOL jets ?

Latitude south of the 40th parallel and I think the road loop is for access by vehicles such as fuel bowsers.

[Asturias56]

I'm starting to think of the USMC at Cherry Point, N Carolina, as the base and this as an outlier...................

[dook]

You are thinking extremely well - we are 54 km away...……

And it is USMC.

[Asturias56]

Not sure of its actual name but it's on Mile Hammock Bay in Camp Lejeune east of Sneads ferry?

34 deg 33 min 11sec N
077 deg 18 min 05 sec W

[dook]

:D:D

Blue Bird Marine Corps Expeditionary Airfield, Duck Creek.

New balls please - next service.

[Asturias56]

Wow!!!!!! Good challenge..................

Try this........

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1107x768/a43_3318af7be6a500f1e66996cb29d5fcf7a79bdc23.jpg

[dook]

Good challenge...............…

So is this one. Now - the aeeoplane………...

[dook]

OK

wingtip ECM pod
two hardpoints outboard of drop tanks

= Typhoon

Now, where......

[Asturias56]

checked your copy of jane's......:E

yes a Typhoon..................... not too far from the sea side.............

[dook]

I don't have a copy of Janes.

UK ?

[Asturias56]

Europe

I'm going out for a few hours

[Imagegear]

Best quick guess: RAF Sculthorpe

IG

[Auxtank]

Happy chappy getting ready to go fly the mach loop?

EGOV ?

Scrub that - it looks like somewhere warm and pleasant.

Italy?

[JENKINS]

T-bird, perhaps at Rota? Not too far from the sea.

[Asturias56]

Well... no.........

NATO tho' - off to bed.......

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1366x649/a4_5cb4e1fdb98705b819ddf25a95ffdd346eb276d0.jpg

[dook]

Possibly Trapani-Birgi air base Sicily.

[JENKINS]

And my retort is Schleswig Air Base,, Tiger Meet.

[dook]

I think it is as I posted above - 37 Stormo, JointStars 2017.

[kaikohe76]

As a wild card, possibly due to the flat countryside about, a Royal Danish Air Force base Karup or Skrydstrup possibly.

[Asturias56]

Kaikohe is on the right lines with regard to the terrain as a clue but you're all far too far West......... and this is the RAF

I'm travelling to LGW this morning so I'll be back on line around 12:00 UK time

[Imagegear]

How about Estonia, possibly Amari?

IG

[kaikohe76]

`IG`, See what you mean regarding Amari, the position of the buildings in relation to the runway certainly appear to fit. The image I got on Google on my ancient PC, shows more & darker green foliage quite close to the airfield & I wonder, just how far west we all are, as A 56 has said. I thought possibly Turkey, but the terrain & flat countryside would not fit there.

[chevvron]

Flat countryside = Coningsby.

[dook]

Are we in Poland ?

edit: I don't think it's a display jet because of the drop tanks.

[Asturias56]

Poland is closer but its not the Baltic it's close to....... and it was active service not a display.....

[dook]

Czech Republic ?