Which Aerodrome Mk III

[India Four Two]

Harry wins again. The earliest incarnation of what is now Vancouver International Airport CYVR.

Here's a photo taken from the roof of the terminal (grand opening?):
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o598/simonyouens/CVA%20260-180%20-%20View%20of%20airfield%20from%20terminal%20building%20a4a33 88e-90d0-4c52-8d07-74af94b0dc7a-A74209_zpsmv2aow4w.jpg

What is that tri-motor biplane?

and an aerial view:
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o598/simonyouens/Sea%20Island%20airport%20aerial%20photo%20south%20from%20bip lane%208cb5e58e-85fc-4a01-b0f2-109a10798309-CVA50-1_zpslkvinxah.jpg
The hangars and the distinctively shaped roads are still there, but the terminal is long gone, replaced by a parking lot. Vandals!


Here's a later aerial view, possible wartime:
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o598/simonyouens/CVA%2050-2%20-%20Sea%20Island%20airport%20aerial%20photo%20northeast%208e8 9e21f-d1d8-405f-95ba-15ebe2410714-CVA50-2_zpsqowgutjy.jpg

The small channel on the Fraser River no longer exists and the two runways are also gone, but the remnants are visible on GE. The present day airport covers nearly all of the fields in the background. Many years ago, I did my floatplane rating here.

Over to you, Harry.

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture561-98194331.jpg

twas Dave's joke that sent me in the right directon....................

Anyway given recent posts I guess this will last about 30 minutes.......

[DaveReidUK]

What is that tri-motor biplane?

Looks like a Boeing 80:

http://www.aerofiles.com/boe-80a1.jpg

[India Four Two]

Thanks Dave.

I hadn't heard of that one.

[Heathrow Harry]

not much clearance bewtween the props and the fuselage!!!

[washoutt]

The Seattle Air Museum has a fine example.

[Heathrow Harry]

The only example I believe........

[nvubu]

It's lasted more than 30 minutes :ok:

I'd hazard a guess at southern European as the roofs are fairly flat.

[Heathrow Harry]

People are getting slow......

The taxiway is a bit of a help ... if you look closely!

[Background Noise]

Well, it's a race circuit of some sort.

[Background Noise]

Ah - searching for airfield race circuits comes up with Braga, Portugal.

[Heathrow Harry]

yes that's it - also has a kart track alongside as well...............

maybe they could run F1 at LR...................

Over to you

[Background Noise]

Thanks - try this:

http://www.pprune.org/members/18783-background-noise-albums-where-picture562-wherami.jpg

[Heathrow Harry]

nothing showing......................

[Background Noise]

Sorry - first time with prune albums - any better?

[jensdad]

Hmmm , based on a photo I took of the place from a Loganair Saab340, best guess I can come up with is Kinloss. Not confident, though.

[Background Noise]

Sorry, not UK.

[nvubu]

How about Büchel?

[Background Noise]

Not Germany, but almost due south of Büchel. We must be looking 060° ish.

[G-ARZG]

Colmar/Meyenheim ?

'ZG

[Background Noise]

Yes, Colmar it is. Now closed and handed over to the army - sound familiar?

Over to Zulu Golf.

[G-ARZG]

'Porte ouverte'/Open House.... 'ZG

[India Four Two]

Here's one I've flown to. It looks a bit different now. The water tower and most of the huts are gone, but the hangar is still there.

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o598/simonyouens/WAD%202017-02-03_zpsvr3yiih7.jpg

[jensdad]

I'll kick things off with a random punt at Regina, Saskatchewan. For no other reason than it looks very flat! And the fact that I42 is in Canada.

[India Four Two]

Good observation, jensdad.

Not Regina, but there's a lot of flat ground around here, although there are some incised valleys nearby.

My location is a herring that's slightly reddish.;)

[Kewbick]

Cutbank, Montana (KCTB) ?

[India Four Two]

Kewbick,

Welcome to PPRuNe and congratulations. It's Cut Bank Municipal Airport (KCTB), near the eponymous incised creek (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut_Bank,_Montana).

The picture is from when it was being built as a B-17 training base during WWII.

Here's the airside view of the hangar, framing the lovely Stinson 108 that I went to Oshkosh in. We cleared customs here:

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o598/simonyouens/Cutbank%20IMG_3227_zps2rdbvmki.jpg

Kewbick has control

[ronnieblinn]

do you have the full document from the AEF? [I'm doing some research on Tangmere Airfield in WW1]
any other information out there regarding Tangmere?

[Kewbick]

Thank you.
Name the airfield:
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b477/gumpjr_bucket/Borderline.jpg

[Dora-9]

..and it looks a lovely Stinson Voyager too, I142.

[nvubu]

for user ronnieblinn - further to your email to me re the Oldham Aircraft Factory.


Please enable your PMs if you want a reply re the information. Whan I tried to PM you, I received this message "ronnieblinn has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her." when I tried to send you some info.:confused:

[India Four Two]

Dora 9,

Yes, a lovely aircraft. A little bit cramped but not too uncomfortable, even after three hour legs. I must confess, as we were chugging westwards into the wind, on the way home over the unending landscapes of North Dakota and Montana, to wishing I was in something 100 kts faster!

It is the "twitchiest" tail dragger I have ever flown. You have to be lightning-fast on the rudder pedals during the takeoff and landing rolls.

[Russell Gulch]

I42, sounds like the MLG tracking is out then. Needs toe-in, not toe-out
Russell

[India Four Two]

Russell,

Thanks. I hadn't thought of that. I'll pass that onto the owner

[India Four Two]

Kewbick,

I am unable to contact you because you have not enabled PMs or emails.

The "rules" of this game are that if you correctly identify the challenge, you should either post a new challenge or declare Open House.

PS FOR SOME REASON YOUR POST HADNT SHOWN UP. I CAN SEE IT NOW.

[Heathrow Harry]

That's an early Antonov ?AN-25? - mid - 1930's - but I don't think that the airfield is in the USSR from the vast number of cars in the background................ and the trees suggest W Europe or N America?? Sounds unlikely

[India Four Two]

Sounds unlikely.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Harry,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. ;)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/8AB59E6E-99A8-42FB-AC53-9B6B92799F95_zpsdibjvnjp.jpg

[Heathrow Harry]

What the .................. was it doing there???

[India Four Two]

Moscow to San Francisco (nearly) - over the Pole:

Soviet ANT-25 completes first transpolar airplane flight from the Soviet Union to the United States (Vancouver) on June 20, 1937. - HistoryLink.org (http://www.historylink.org/File/7208)

[nvubu]

ronnieblinn: your private messaging still isn't enabled. If you can send me a message when it is, I'll reply when I receive it.

[Heathrow Harry]

Thanks India Four Two - you live and learn........... I guess it's your turn!!

[India Four Two]

Nothing to post so Open House

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture563-nvbnnbn.jpg

Nice seaside location for you

[India Four Two]

Primary wind direction from the north?

There's a lot of rubber at the south end of the runway.

[Heathrow Harry]

Primary wind direction is from THE SOUTH - but then you need to see the view the other way........................ not one I'd care to overshoot the threshold by very much.....................

[Airclues]

Perhaps the rubber is from heavy braking before they fell off the end?

Dave

[Heathrow Harry]

It's not that busy but it does have a scheduled air service - mainly seasonal holiday traffic I think.............

[jensdad]

I'm thinking maybe the Azores. Horta?

[nvubu]

The ship looks like an Aircraft carrier, but I'm sure it's not. My first thought is Caribbean.

[Cows getting bigger]

I'm thinking maybe the Azores. Horta?

Nope, it's not Horta. I've done all of the Azores and it's not ringing any bells. However, the vegetation etc is very similar.

[Heathrow Harry]

WoW!! Three shots and not found! Tho no doubt India 42 will wake up soon

Cows is correct - it's not the Azores

Jensdad is closer than nvubu ... but not a lot...........

[barry lloyd]

Porto Santo? (a few years ago)

[Heathrow Harry]

Nope................... this is a bit closer to the sea and the orientation is slightly different

[India Four Two]

Tho no doubt India 42 will wake up soon
I've been hibernating - it was -26 when I woke up. The forecast high is a balmy -21!

So not the Azores or Caribbean, how about the Cape Verde Islands?

[Heathrow Harry]

Quite a long way from Cape Verde................ and it's not in the Pacific or the Indian Ocean either

[jensdad]

Not in the Pacific or Indian Oceans... Slightly closer to the Azores than to the Caribbean... Seasonal holiday traffic... I'm going to go out on a limb and say Yalta (because it's the only ex-Soviet Black Sea holiday resort I know of!)

[Heathrow Harry]

Right Sea, wrong airport....................................

[dixi188]

Gelendzhik West according to GE.

Never heard of it, but found it after following northern coastline of Black Sea.

Probably cheating doing it this way.

OH if correct I'm afraid.

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture564-adsads.jpg

That's it - it's actually a new runway on the site of an old military/research/civil base - they test sea planes at Gelendzhik and there are several marine research institutes there Quite a nice spot but the beaches are very stony and clayey Main problem is that taking off or landing to/from the North you have an 2500 ft mountain 5 miles away....... dead ahead.....

Hence the normal arrival/departure to/from the South - I think the missed approach is a bit scary - max left or right hand turn INSTANTLY

There's a daily flight from Moscow and a lot of holiday flights from Siberia and N Russia

[barry lloyd]

Yes, I went to the airshow there a few years ago, but the airport was closed at the time, which is probably why I didn't recognise it. Magnificent natural bay, which is perfect for seaplane operations, which were very spectacular.

[Heathrow Harry]

Did you stay in the big Hotel (I think it's the Kempinski now) on the other side of the Bay? I was in there just after it opened a few years ago - a total of 7 guests in mid November....... every one on a different floor.....

OH anyway...............

[nvubu]

Keeping with the seaside theme :ok:
https://yuldxg.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mr03W64dlD2a9Wnzt93dOSBonuSDdVgn5zybrEk89bu3Z_1CwjRSWu5ABj DwVsYh8Uu0bS2MHlsUFWaHsckjuhp4kBhf3jgK6Z1_9Ne-_1zZKwMYBUSPTCJ0_TCfHAGGSnWZQ_wXQk3VT7hr3Was-9cDO0CPEFlPgE8Tvha25X6o?width=701&height=1024&cropmode=none

[Heathrow Harry]

reefs? mangroves??? not much in the way of support structure.....

ex japanese??

[nvubu]

Reefs and mangroves certainly. Not 100% sure about being ex-Japanese, but could well be. There is a lot more infrastructure now than there was in this photo.

[barry lloyd]

Did you stay in the big Hotel (I think it's the Kempinski now) on the other side of the Bay? I was in there just after it opened a few years ago - a total of 7 guests in mid November....... every one on a different floor.....

No, the Kempinski wasn't there then. I stayed in the nearby Nadezhda at Kabardinka, So I could keep an eye on the shipping traffic in and out of Novorossiysk ;)

[nvubu]

Well, I thought that would last a bit longer :)


Well done Jenkins, Tawi-Tawi or Sanga Sanga it is.


Your turn.

[Heathrow Harry]

"Well, I thought that would last a bit longer http://cdn.pprune.org/images/smilies/smile.gif"

We should form a MasterMind team................

[India Four Two]

I've landed here, but long before this occurred:

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o598/simonyouens/WAD%202017-02-09_zpshex51gdh.jpeg

[Heathrow Harry]

Not too hard - Lethbridge Alberta - teh CAF Display F-18 CF188738 crashed on 23rd July 2013

"
During an air show practice at Lethbridge County Airport, CF188738 experienced a loss of thrust from its right engine while conducting a high angle of attack (AOA) pass at 300 feet (ft) above ground level (AGL). Unaware of the problem but feeling the aircraft sink slightly, the pilot selected maximum afterburner on both throttles in order to overshoot from the manoeuvre. The aircraft immediately started to yaw right and continued to rapidly yaw/roll right despite compensating control column and rudder pedal inputs.
With the aircraft at approximately 150 ft AGL and about 90 degrees of right bank, the pilot ejected from the aircraft. The aircraft continued in a tight descending corkscrew to the right prior to hitting the ground nose first.
The ejection system worked flawlessly, but the pilot was injured when he landed firmly under a fully inflated parachute.
The investigation revealed a number of factors that contributed to this occurrence. The engine malfunction was likely the result of a stuck ratio boost piston in the right engine main fuel control (MFC) that prevented the engine from advancing above flight idle when maximum afterburner was selected. The large thrust imbalance between the left and the right engines caused the aircraft to depart controlled flight and the aircraft was unrecoverable within the altitude available. The subtle nature of the engine malfunction that was not detected by the pilot when the overshoot was attempted.
In response to this occurrence, the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) expedited the implementation of a program to upgrade all CF188 MFCs. Additionally, the RCAF made changes to the conduct of the CF188 air show routine by increasing the high AOA pass altitude from 300 feet AGL to 500 feet AGL, improving the air show training program and ensuring that both engines of the CF188 air show aircraft have upgraded MFCs."

[DaveReidUK]

The ejection system worked flawlesslyIndeed it did.

0HDIxzSMp-0

[India Four Two]

I said it was easy! Lethbridge Alberta, CYQL

http://info-aviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/crash_CF18_Lethbridge1.jpg

Five seconds from ejection to feet on the ground! Very ironic that the PA was broadcasting "Staying alive".

A great quote from the pilot afterwards:
Martin Baker is my new best friend!The full accident report is here:
Article | Royal Canadian Air Force | Report | CF188738 Hornet - Epilogue - Flight Safety Investigation Report (http://www.rcaf-arc.forces.gc.ca/en/article-template-standard.page?doc=cf188738-hornet-epilogue-flight-safety-investigation-report/hl7pe978)

When I was at Lethbridge in July last year, there was another unusual incident, although not as spectacular. We were surprised to see an Air Canada Airbus on the ramp. Lethbridge is normally Dash 8 country. The Airbus had been on approach to Calgary and had its windshields crazed by hail. It had diverted to Lethbridge for repairs.

Harry has control

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture566-sdhklp.jpg

I don't give this very long TBH

[barry lloyd]

est-ce Le Bourget?

[Heathrow Harry]

Magnifique!

yours!!

[barry lloyd]

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll226/tango15_photos/17.11.2016_0006_zpstuiqqzld.jpg

[Heathrow Harry]

Hmm - trees could be temperate but area in front of camera could be anywhere - looks like autumn/fall - wet...

airport has small terminal; houses mainly one storey- I keep thinking Australia but It looks too neat

[barry lloyd]

Too wet for Oz - lots of IFR weather at this location :)

[IcePack]

Rapa Nui ?

Landed there once.

[barry lloyd]

Yes, that's the one! Easter Island IPC/SCIP

[nvubu]

Your turn IcePack

[IcePack]

http://www.pprune.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=1749&stc=1&d=1486915975

Only pic I can find & had to crop it so you can't see the chart
IcePack

[chimbu warrior]

Too easy. Apai/Faleolo airport in Samoa (NSFA).

Open house.

[IcePack]

Yep correct.
On climb out 757 heading for Cairns.
Cheers.

[nvubu]

This should be an easy one for a Monday morning - taken yesterday, with snow on the hills
https://lw4zva.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mhqi_ZC2Xg_3QZIYxO4nC5zDVriNZkPGoWlhnI88gmr-Un-ktgXOwxCFt3_TNSkN0uPQ5nVPilPFvIDuBH8yaCOPsd33lmnTEie-sa9UOul6ijkiNAIN1zgBtmA-K12YLwxP8lyz1Ud81MzjnGQ0sSx-K0zpQ1MirbaihL6y9kKI?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none

[barry lloyd]

Dunstable Gliding Club?

[nvubu]

Not even an hour:ok: Over to you Barry

I had organised a breakfast meet there for the car group I belong to. Was foul weather, but a good breakfast. Interesting hanger.
https://qssppa.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y3mOKHUjVT8hwjw9-29KYOpB1mtaenOiDJOAb2EX1GjdDrTzmVvEZWiycDCeGXph7g4Xz3xJDtpnS WFcbVh6QU3Kq_QpW5iUBhCu8jRmEG5NS9L6n8wkQmaKIVEg45_HbTKfLezQ2 r8ibkroKOS5Dw6lcOpVDaopKgOZX0LwYWL-bY?width=1024&height=576&cropmode=none

[barry lloyd]

One of my favourite spots, especially from the top of the downs.

Don't have anything prepared, so open house.

[nvubu]

Fantastic location and we really enjoyed it, despite the weather, and will definitely be going back during the summer for a day of events.

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture567-img-4961.jpg

Sunnier climes!!!

[nvubu]

Somewhere in the Caribbean?

[chimbu warrior]

I am inclined to say southern Philippines, but nowhere I recognise.

[Heathrow Harry]

Chimbu is a way off base but a damn sight closer than nvubu...................

[India Four Two]

Somewhere in, or on the way to, "A Pattern Of Islands"?

[Heathrow Harry]

Jenkins - not sure about the history of the airfield infrastucture but I think it's just scraggy gound cover

Chimbu is closer than India Four Two ("A Pattern of Islands" By Arther Grimble is about the Gilbert & Elice Islands - now Kiribati & Tuvalu)

It's by the seaside!!!

[chimbu warrior]

It is in neither Kiribati or Tuvalu, as the highest terrain in each of those countries is 100 feet or less (and hence their concern over rising sea levels).

[Heathrow Harry]

100ft!!! I'd say about 4 ft TBH. Actually rising sea -level is a bit of red herring - they're coral atolls and the "land" is just where a storm pushes up the dead coral above normal sea level - as the reefs grow upwards under water the islands are replenished by storms - the fact the whole place disapears under water when it happens is ..... unfortunate... but not new........

As I said the airfield pictured is a long way from either.........................

[IcePack]

MUSC (Santa Clara Cuba) vista wise but don't recognise the prefab hanger.
So doubtful.

[Heathrow Harry]

If MUSC is Muscat no - even further away than Chimbu's guess of S Phillipnes -

wetter climate as well

[sycamore]

East/West Malaysia ,or Indonesia..?

[Heathrow Harry]

closer.........

[Heathrow Harry]

if you are talking about the one just South of Java still a long way away.............

since it's lasted 24 hours - a modern record! I'll post another image tomorrow when I get back to the hutch........

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture568-img-4968.jpg

[oldpax]

Sri lanka?somewhere!!

[Heathrow Harry]

noooooooo

the runway is approximately aligned on Jesus & the Pope.........................

[chimbu warrior]

Dil, (WPDL) Timor Leste.

Open house.

[Heathrow Harry]

Indeed!Dilli

Presidente Nicolau Lobato International Airport (IATA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Air_Transport_Association_airport_code): DIL, ICAO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Civil_Aviation_Organization_airport_code): WPDL),

The airport is about the only thing that runs well in the whole country............ bijou but not bad IMHO

[Chris Scott]

Somewhere a little less balmy. To be fair, there've been several changes since this photo was taken:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h335/Chris_Scott_46/AST%20Perth/1966-05-XX-P07-AST%20-%20Copy%20-%20Copy%202_zpsmsyj9eu3.jpg

[jensdad]

Pretty sure that's Edinburgh...


OH if correct.

[kcockayne]

It could be, but wouldn't that R/W be 24 ?

[Chris Scott]

'Morning kcockayne,

The photo was taken in 1966. With the current magnetic variation, that Rwy 26 would be designated Rwy 25.

(All will be revealed after I've had a cuppa and fed the birds.)

[Chris Scott]

jensdad is correct! Turnhouse in 1966:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h335/Chris_Scott_46/AST%20Perth/1966-05-XX-P07-AST%20-%20Copy_zpssilutyo9.jpg

The main runway was designated 13/31, with 13 having Turnhouse's only ILS. (Some of us cut our insstrument-rating teeth flying it in a 2000-foot wind of 270/30-40...)** It is now designated 12/30. The civil apron can be seen on the right of the photo, and is still used. Rwy 26, with its final approach over a down-sloping golf course, is closed. The apron in the middle of the photo, with a black hangar to its left, may have belonged to Ferranti?

In the background, today, would be the current main runway, 06/24, with an ILS on both ends. That was built in the 1970s, and originally designated 07/25. Careful inspection of the Google satellite-view reveals the residual mark "7"under the "6" of the "06" at the runway threshold.

For those who've never been there to admire it, here's the view to the left on Finals to what is now Rwy 12:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h335/Chris_Scott_46/AST%20Perth/1966-05-XX-P09-AST%20-%20Copy_zpsovybhwgu.jpg

[DaveReidUK]

The apron in the middle of the photo, with a black hangar to its left, may have belonged to Ferranti?

It did indeed. They used to operate some interesting aircraft from Turnhouse in those days, including 3 Canberras, a civil-registered Meteor and a Dakota with a Lightning radar nose.

[sycamore]

What a/c was the last pic. taken from...?

[DaveReidUK]

What a/c was the last pic. taken from...?

That vicious-looking wing fence could only belong to a One-Eleven.

BUA, presumably, judging from the location and the era.

[Chris Scott]

Yes, both photos taken on the "Inter-Jet" from Airwick Gatport one early-summer's day in 1966, at a ticket price of about £5 if memory serves. BUA was the launch customer for the 1-11, which had only been in service about 12 months. Despite the handicap of being based at LGW, the Inter-Jet services to EDI and GLA proved popular with businessmen. Hot meals were served, whereas you were lucky to get a sandwich on the BEA Vanguard from LHR.

[kcockayne]

Yes, I am wrong. I was there in '73-'74 & the mists of time have addled my brain ! I think I must have got EGPH 26 confused with EGPD 24 (where I was from '76 - 78). At my age, all these runways seem the same !

[Chris Scott]

Yes, so much simpler in the single-runway CIs... ;)

[jensdad]

I thought I recognised that runway that ends abruptly where it crosses 12/30! Really interesting to see the complete photo. The main apron was miniscule.


Open House.

[India Four Two]

That vicious-looking wing fence could only belong to a One-Eleven.

BUA, presumably, judging from the location and the era.

Dave, never mind the wing fence - what are those bulbous objects on the trailing edge? Special drag-inducing bullets? :)

I had a quick look at GE to see if those fields are still there and was surprised to see that they mostly are, but I also noticed that you were probably on a downwind leg, rather than final. ;)

[DaveReidUK]

Dave, never mind the wing fence - what are those bulbous objects on the trailing edge? Special drag-inducing bullets?

On the contrary, they're "speed bullets" à la Coronado, to reduce drag as the aircraft approaches Mach 1. :O

Joking aside, I would imagine the canoes are flap track/screwjack fairings - I didn't have much to do with One-Elevens when I used to play with aeroplanes as BA's rarely came to LHR.

I had a quick look at GE to see if those fields are still there and was surprised to see that they mostly are, but I also noticed that you were probably on a downwind leg, rather than final. It's Chris's photo, not mine, but it's definitely taken from an aircraft on finals for 13, having completed its procedure turn after overflying the airport. The diagonal road is the old B800 between Kirkliston and South Queensferry, with Milton Farm on the extreme left.

[Chris Scott]

Quotes from India Four Two:
"I also noticed that you were probably on a downwind leg, rather than final."

Do try to pay attention, double-oh-seven... :ugh:

And:
"Dave, never mind the wing fence - what are those bulbous objects on the trailing edge? Special drag-inducing bullets?"

'Sixties boat fairings, as Dave says, which evolved into what you see on Airbuses today. Don't know why they were so rounded at the trailing edge though. As no one has produced another aerodrome yet, but at risk of competing with the "Which aircraft?" thread, this photo was taken from another 1-11/200 a few days earlier, while taxiing for take-off at Turnhouse with, from the look of it, 8-deg of flap set:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h335/Chris_Scott_46/AST%20Perth/1966-05-XX-P03-AST%20-%20Copy_zpscuwzeeua.jpg

[dixi188]

Early 1-11s had flap track fairings that moved with the flap as per the photo.
Later ones from the 500srs on, except the 510s of BEA had a fixed fairing with a more pointed aft end.

[Heathrow Harry]

lets try an easy one for a Sunday................

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture571-5548.jpg

[Heathrow Harry]

P- LEASE!!!!!!

Teeside International these days.........

over to you

[chevvron]

P- LEASE!!!!!!

Teeside International these days.........

over to you
Last I heard it was 'Durham Tees Valley Airport' but that was last week!

[Heathrow Harry]

HMS Ark Royal (R09)?

[kcockayne]

HMS Bulwark ?

[Heathrow Harry]

HMS Eagle?

[DaveReidUK]

HMS Eagle?

Definitely.

[Airclues]

I will answer should there be a stab at the 'field.


RAF Maseira?

[Heathrow Harry]

tough to tell Eagle and the Ark apart on that picture Jenkins....

I shall retire to the archives and try and find another one that lasts more than 12 hours - over to Airclues!!

[Airclues]

Computer on a 'go slow' so if HH doesn't post then Open House.

Dave

[nvubu]

I've got one ready if you want me to post it.

[Heathrow Harry]

Warp factor 9 Mr Sulu!!

[nvubu]

here we go then
https://piybpg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mNNMIdBa2IVk9K3qf38DDnPUcaTjc1DUe_xwBn_-5VIim2OPGNY_eBYI1v-Or3bwsvNKF0LueSmSPEcSRraWqJac6DpJZrisARZ9Gi0VCk-6xKXufo-JbI_TjIgms1Dodr4LSJByDV4am0j0ZRuh2BVyHaDZsuWh5V2JNaI4Vs2w?wi dth=1024&height=799&cropmode=none

[Heathrow Harry]

Lot of yankee cars to be SE Asia - I thought McGill or Florida?

[nvubu]

Wrong neck of the woods with Florida. You need to define SE Asia.

[Heathrow Harry]

well I'd now guess we're looking possibly at the Vietnam era - so let's try Don Muang?

[albatross]

Subic Bay? OH if correct.

[Heathrow Harry]

Helicopter is almost certainly US - prob some sort of S-61? Could be a Super Frelon but doesn't look bulky enough.. strike aircaraft with folding wings = naval design = almost certainly US produced (given the apparent age of the picture) maybe A-6's..............

[nvubu]

Don't you just hate it when you're searching around and someone names it straight away :ok:

albatross has it - it's USS Constellation at NAS Cubi Point, Subic Bay.

Couple of other shots that I had lined up:
https://yep3jg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mljZ0UbQRH1gVCi8JIbKaG5VA43Z9BnftBKjXruH0O36Jb7uguiLBoyhkQ yQ10VaoHntzlfp6DodcglvPwRCPSg5asWu8EomHdveH_DKEVKoq28aprT28_ LHlbctSzbIKh95FvT8Csst0Y0Ah7viPpZxBQEr-HgcTBVbrrwuNSzU?width=830&height=917&cropmode=none


https://lnbqgw.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mAaQTL0UPOQCAR-2erqTCtCCvih6VLib3SybV-86yEtUUparYtUGd4T2PREl8w6O3W9iph8j0UpfHMslu1e2SsvEI_SqIXMcHL p-FX81bFb7cVJtcw4JPpSvxFyZKwAOSOLIGhP5ozos6td31O4Hplw3bZKPxgYJ o61W9xOI6pGA?width=1024&height=506&cropmode=none



I thought this went well with Jenkins' posting.

OPEN HOUSE

[DaveReidUK]

Helicopter is almost certainly US - prob some sort of S-61? Could be a Super Frelon but doesn't look bulky enough

Sikorsky HH-53.

[Heathrow Harry]

Against my better judgement here's another one

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture573-130247.jpg

[DaveReidUK]

Is that red blob a fire engine or an errant Red Arrow ? :O

[Heathrow Harry]

I doubt it's a Red Arrow and it's definitely NOT Postman Pat...........................

[chevvron]

Turnhouse before runway 06/24?

[Heathrow Harry]

no but it is european................

[WIDN62]

It looks a bit like Bonn-Hangelar so, is it Germany?

[Heathrow Harry]

nooooooo - small airport but connects to 13 other destinations (alledgedly)

[jensdad]

Sounds like it could be one of those low-cost destinations in the middle of nowhere. Bergerac?

[oftenflylo]

Where they hold the RSA Rallye

[Heathrow Harry]

Jensdad is on the right lines.

I wouldn't have said it was the middle of nowhere but I was surprised to find out it serves 13 destinations...........

better photo..

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture574-130149.jpg

[jensdad]

Hmmm... I'm going to go for another French airfield much beloved by the Flybes and Ryanairs of this world. Poitiers?

[Heathrow Harry]

Right Country, wrong airport

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture575-73404.jpg

[DaveReidUK]

Is that part of the same clue, or a new airport ?

[Heathrow Harry]

Sorry! Same airport - you can (just ) see the tower on the right over the rather large bump in teh middle of the field.....

and it's NOT near the seaside

[ea200]

Looks like Limoges?

[IcePack]

Aéroport International de Limoges

Sorry crossed ea200

[Flap40]

I suspect that there might be a porcelain factory nearby?

Also crossed!

I recognised the runway but not the buildings.

[Heathrow Harry]

Limoges it is - the runway bump is a bit of a give-waay I thought........

ea200 has the con by a minute lead over Icepak

[ea200]

Only just made it! Try this one. It also has a bump in it.

http://cdn.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2016/4/11/702812as.jpg

[Heathrow Harry]

Looks like the C Valley in Scotland.............................

[ea200]

Not Scotland. JENKINS has it, EDFV Worms. Suffered mild embarrassment there some time in the 80's when I took an Aztec in there. Went past the clubhouse braking heavily only to find another 300 odd metres the other side of the bump.

[sycamore]

Don`t forget the Leconfield `motorway` Jenks..

[ea200]

JENKINS, sorry the red roof tops got me to EDF, thought you had it although the * puzzled me. Open house I think.

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture572-130634.jpg

OK try try again......

[jensdad]

Asturias? Flew into that airport (as a passenger, not a pilot!) from the other end. Nice approach over the sea.

[Heathrow Harry]

Thought it wouldn't last long!!! 12hrs 30 minutes....

Over to Jensdad

[jensdad]

Yep, thought it looked familiar with the angle of the coastline to the runway, the drop at the East end of the runway and the woods opposite the terminal. We got a fantastic view of the Picos de Europa mountains on the downwind leg but then didn't see them again for a week as the weather was terrible!


I have nothing sufficiently tricky, so it's Open House!

[Kewbick]

Okay, here is a challenge:
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b477/gumpjr_bucket/Fake%20airprort.jpg

[The late XV105]

RAF Milltown (Moray)?

Edited to add: Open house if correct. Off to put the kids to bed!

[Kewbick]

RAF Milltown aka RNAS Fulmar II is correct.

[nvubu]

As it's Open House, here's one from me - click the image for a more detailed picture
https://pyyfbg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3m0m4m9IwAJedq5sB-CByoTya8gI-JE2bWEoz3P2CkrRhIhgfyh7dNLnnNFARafaGpXEyGBUedUPo9J8pv0_1bhk6 pn9bakLke7W5c4R5LAizGNsJkPcECoh61oqGsmvElg04YdcHr-2VDxVycsKuvQWYTcTpLnPktSwKT6fw1PRE?width=1024&height=798&cropmode=none (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20170227_01.jpg)

[Heathrow Harry]

Beaufighter!!!!

[nvubu]

It's not Middle Wallop

[India Four Two]

Not in the U.K.?

[nvubu]

Correct, it isn't in the UK

[broadreach]

And isn't the dump truck a US built one?

[nvubu]

I don't know, but quite possibly as a lot of things were back then.

[oldpax]

Rotterdam .

[nvubu]

It isn't in the Netherlands.

[chevvron]

Luqa, Malta?

[chevvron]

Beaufighter!!!!
And Hurricane.

[DaveReidUK]

And is that a P-39 in the background ?

[nvubu]

Not in Malta either.


There are a large number of different varieties in shot aren't there.

[India Four Two]

Somewhere in Germany?

[sidtheesexist]

Bone (known today as Rabah Bitat)? I'm guessing North Africa, post/during Torch....

[India Four Two]

sid might be on to something there. I think that's a Hurricane IID on the right.

[nvubu]

Now we are getting somewhere :ok:


It isn't Bone, but North Africa is correct.

[nvubu]

Jenkins strikes again, Maison Blanche in Algeria it is.


Well done. Over to you.

[nvubu]

Here's one to keep us going until Jenkins gets his technology together.
https://84ykbg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mJOaYOsnK1SQW8Z2P9S4e1ksM3kn8KTpLzH-Wp57xP8krj3wOXmbI4z3t-mXOwqQD6I6qVBa3P8LWBO8VuVnXG5bvx1x4Ty5JXASXXvQeSQEFj8eHy4Q-ebS2bzweCsOmiCkDURzavb8w9IDp_hqTtrejSTFHh9J_STU747jmd9M?widt h=1024&height=713&cropmode=none (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20170301_01.jpg)

Larger resolution by clicking the picture.

[zetec2]

Is that an airship mooring mast centre left ?

[nvubu]

Good spot - I don't know, but it looks like it could be.

[India Four Two]

Very interesting unequal-span biplanes but I can't ID them.

Terrain looks like France.

[nvubu]

France it is

[DaveReidUK]

I like a challenge, but those sesquiplanes have me beat. I'd have said Nieuports, but they don't appear to have any wing rake at all.

[nvubu]

There is still an airfield at this location, but not quite in the same position. The odd shaped wood in the photo matches what is there currently.

[India Four Two]

I like a challenge, but those sesquiplanes have me beat

Dave, I think they are the Caudron G.3, so presumably an Allied aerodrome.

[nvubu]

Yes to Allied and Caudron G.3 were used here.

[The late XV105]

Chardon Lorrain?
(Now Aérodrome de Chambley)

[nvubu]

It's not Chardon Lorrain / Chambley-Bussières


According to Bing Maps it's about a 5 hour drive from there.

[DaveReidUK]

Dave, I think they are the Caudron G.3

Oh dear, I was looking at one of those only a few weeks ago (at Hendon). :\

[India Four Two]

Dave,
If it's any consolation, I was thinking "I know that biplane", but I couldn't place it. I also now know the difference between a "sesquiplane" and an "unequal span biplane" ;)

I'll post an interesting link when I find it again!

[The late XV105]

It's not Chardon Lorrain / Chambley-Bussières
According to Bing Maps it's about a 5 hour drive from there.

Approximately 5 hours by road from Chardon Lorrain; apparently flat countryside with fields; potentially an airship mast.

Are we coastal in an arc from Le Havre, northwards?

[nvubu]

South of Le Havre

[sidtheesexist]

Very lonnngggg shot......Poitiers-Biard?:p

[Kewbick]

Dijon, France ?

[nvubu]

It's north of Poitiers-Biard and not too far east (within 50 miles) of a line drawn between Poitiers-Biard and Le Havre.


edit to add: And Dijon is way too far east.

[sidtheesexist]

I've already inspected the woods near Tours and didn't think I could see the funny shaped one....I've looked again and think there's a match(ish), so Tours?

[India Four Two]

I've just got home and found the link:

http://www.ww1aero.org.au/pdfs/Sample%20Journal%20Articles/Sesquiplanes[1]1972-73.pdf

[nvubu]

Not Tours, but getting closer. The wood isn't an exact match as some of it has gone, but the remnant is there. The image is looking almost due west.

[DIBO]

RAF Camp de Poulines
(OH if correct)

[nvubu]

Well done DIBO!

The image is labelled "Vendome 1"

I had located Camp des Poulines in a more northern location from the one you have pointed out - and it didn't match the image at all, so had discounted this aerodrome as Vendome 1. However the road layout and field boundaries above map onto todays image, so I reckon you have it spot on.

Bloody good detective work from my crappy misleading directions with the wood still existing :ok::ok::ok::ok:

I had located the "wood" at the Aerodrome de Blois Breuil, and had jumped to the conclusion that this was Vendome 1.


OPEN HOUSE

[India Four Two]

Great challenge, Mr. Hippo ;)

Next:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/B788E913-BD18-4D19-8A72-9D1D8BEE95BA_zpskj8wc7nb.jpg

[Shackman]

RAF Shawbury circa 1945

[India Four Two]

I knew it would be easy. A lot more buildings than when I knew it in the 60s, back in the days when it was relatively quiet, before it was infested with helicopters. ;)

Shackman has control.

[Shackman]

Unfortunately not close to stock of pictures/photos, so have to declare Open House.

[nvubu]

Something for the weekend - all images are clickable.

For this aerodrome I know exactly where this one is as the road layout is the same now as it was 100 years ago. :ok:

North is in the direction of the white lines at the top of the image.
https://qdphow.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mvx94CnUp0oCfzO-ab6rpz5M53AWePq_5h_Rxp2x1yYfKip6qBbsMbJrQFFNvxHwTPosCnBNZ_3D 7NQ7wQQm9RapXmHWBUFfGheUhPUOwLlTbQZq4znNnDjk-_EsgdcoXoYi4SkZpXa8_iIfoa3qzugodECgfg3EAmQm_4p4M82w?width=81 2&height=1024&cropmode=none (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20170304_01.jpg)

These were here - nothing remains though. I'm not sure how much help, if any, they are with the search, but I thought you may be interested to see them as they are all taken at this aerodrome.
https://kqfesq.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mX98pNVibxGu9rrlNf39ZGHdRwNTRaPxoM6lB9hgQhw7e0q80oBg8c1yyW x8YMY1R5LO4kahztYPJWWw61l2EvN8HIgXpbeE60bDuRDgqaiYXAuifw8ZDR 5xnvChyH1p_Chw5m0xM-qJed5V9VtxWN1BWk0N7hMkYr2Pgp5Zy98E?width=1024&height=836&cropmode=none (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20170304_02.jpg)

https://lhbruw.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3m3RJHSGlL2XM-fu07kUOzhxvVBhPPFll2wTxXdnu-c7XnDNN9GVR6cD-4vRkJYdmdNyTP68i62pkT3y6BXT0PELCy60gbTiDS0juI1JM3hNqQYdVGBPc XiMS2pHtKkeXeLv0vRAypNMIspmNKC5KX0-Dm6Tln-lcT_URIEJtWLCE?width=1024&height=830&cropmode=none (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20170304_03.jpg)

https://xpqs9g.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mTsfv7o8NqmxQetW9MYXs2-c8__aBq5Xqe9_H1u2qhbOWNCZWeoAtXRVdNE_zlvC0CXI42Uo9wKfXczWoKU MQaXBDNn47eU7tD6nncx8DbBWKBOn2xUUb1mZu2P7pqkB6BXvW2oeFQpd04v FF1-0oPVhSCOt3W0btp_CZstC4QVI?width=1024&height=677&cropmode=none (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20170304_04.jpg)

https://9oycdg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mfLF_WUT4pm6Xsib31JLGoE_adT40PqBYOWiY29zr00T63liH-g17e-g5mP3ln3xQdSVJp_sIVsO4jwsFNa8jNag1zEX1THmI51F30UlVCg0TTouDsd h6HWUCwmpWV_rsTpFW6FnQFrByQlGoMRD7WvIfYP8oKAXGc2n9wzAG2c4?wi dth=836&height=1024&cropmode=none (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20170304_05.jpg)

[Heathrow Harry]

N France from the field layout and the line of trees aloing the road E of the hamlet

Cheerful geezer in last pic = Scotsman who has lost a shilling?

[oftenflylo]

Please tell us what you know about the tower/ are the two lower shacks, call you home lights? or........

[nvubu]

Might be France now, but wasn't then, so not a Scot.

[Heathrow Harry]

Alsace - Lorraine?

[nvubu]

That's the right region

[Heathrow Harry]

the railway bends to the NE coming from the south - almost all local railways seem to bend the other wayto the NW on modern maps

[nvubu]

The railways is still there.

Am just off to Lincoln - 3 hours away, so will be off-line for a while.

[Flap40]

I think the village is Puxieux, a few km's west of Metz but i've no idea if the airfield took the same name.

OH if correct.

[nvubu]

Well done Flap40, and yes it took the name of the village according to the documents I have.


Open House.

[Heathrow Harry]

If you're lucky you'll never go here


http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture580-150919.jpg

[kenparry]

Mount Pleasant?

[Heathrow Harry]

Actually it DOES look like Mt Pleasant (and that's as unfortunate a description of any airfield I've ever been to - no mountain and not pleasant) but no - it's a VERY different climate.......... here it is on a sunnier day

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture581-150947.jpg

[sycamore]

Looks a bit `Oman-ish`....

[Heathrow Harry]

Indeed - but it's not - nowhere near as pleasant a spot ...............

the old runway is no longer in use and the new one is (rather oddly I think) almost at right angles to it - it's the new one you see in the first picture

[Heathrow Harry]

Jenkins you are thinking of the period of the old Sultan Said - who is recorded as "having taken a close look at the 20th Century he'd decided he wasn't having any of it in HIS country."

These days Oman is indeed a delightful place under the wise rule of Sultan Qaboos- having served in the British Army he has an in-depth knowledge of the West- his view was that it made no sense to "turn the place into Dubai or Ibiza - we'd have to import all the materials, all the labour, all the water and the profits would all go out" and therefore he is in favour of "discerning" (= rich) tourists only. The oil helps as well of course.....................

Nice people, superb hotels and none of the issues of Dubai or Abu Dhabi - I strongly recommend it

but the airfield is in a People's Democratic Republic - which of course is none of those things..........

[Kewbick]

Ta'izz, Yemen ?

[Heathrow Harry]

Yemen - not as good as Oman but I'd still put it ahead of the place in the picture - try another Continent....................

[Airbanda]

Given massive clues I'm suspecting Pyonyang. OH if right.

[Heathrow Harry]

Nope - not in Asia

[Kewbick]

Tamanrasset, Algeria ?

[Heathrow Harry]

It is indeed - a premier hell-hole even by Saharan standards

One thing for sure - any aircraft that goes AOG thre is really buggered - whereas if it's Nice or Sardinia you have your suspicions.......

Kewbick has the con...............

[Kewbick]

Thanks for the clues. Ah yes, Tamanrasset, enroute to Timbuktu..

Here is the next challenge:
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b477/gumpjr_bucket/proud%20to%20be.jpg

[Kewbick]

Time for a clue. Here is the Gate Guardian:
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b477/gumpjr_bucket/tin%20feathers.jpg

[sycamore]

In Canada possibly...?Moose Jaw..?

[Kewbick]

Sorry, not in Canada.

[The late XV105]

Just popped in to see where the thread is at.
Davis-Field?

OH if correct.

Edited to add that I am sure it is correct!
How I got there? The T33-A was indeed the clue intended, so thanks for that.
Searching for "T33-A gate guardians" led me here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displayed_Lockheed_T-33_Shooting_Stars
I then worked my way through the page looking for locations that could match the general topography in the airfield image.
From here I clicked this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_Field_(Oklahoma) - and bingo, the layout of the airfield matches the challenge.

[Kewbick]

Correct. Davis Field (IATA: MKO, ICAO: KMKO, FAA LID: MKO) is an uncontrolled city-owned airport seven miles south of Muskogee, in Muskogee County, Oklahoma, U.S.A.

[barry lloyd]

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll226/tango15_photos/MYSTERY%20AIRPORT_zps6ffb5mqv.jpg

This airfield is no longer open, but was very important at one time.

[sidtheesexist]

Long shot: think it's Moscow, struggling to find the name for it but I think it's right next to the Spartak metro station......
Khodynka?

Yep, it's not Khodynka, struggling to find the name ......

[barry lloyd]

You're very close...:)

[sidtheesexist]

Eureka! Tushino I do believe? :O