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JENKINS
11th Jan 2019, 14:14
Perhaps Suva, Fiji?

Self loading bear
11th Jan 2019, 14:39
Roughly in between
The characters are:
Smirnoff, Hulzebos, Soer, Kress, Sanghi

dook
11th Jan 2019, 14:42
Jodhpur,India

Self loading bear
11th Jan 2019, 15:17
Jodhpur it is,
Airfield built/paid by the Maradjha of Jodhpur.
From Google I conclude the same airfield is still being used but is now in the middle of the city.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x606/challenge_1_2_7dfc3e967a87d9875c7857f607878012a2d109fe.jpg
This hangar is visible on RAF photos of 1946 on Internet.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x726/challenge_1_4_928d7f80792873d4c2881bc71f554ef5368adad5.jpg
The airport is not on the photo and is more south (to the right)

Dook,
What was your clue?
You have control

SLB

JENKINS
11th Jan 2019, 15:18
What is the Dutch for 'clever clogs?'

dook
11th Jan 2019, 15:25
What was your clue?

The names you posted.

http://i67.tinypic.com/xc3ct4.jpg

grizzled
11th Jan 2019, 15:43
No it doesn't; Dunsfold is still in use until at least the end of June this year (last airshow there 16 - 18 June)

thanks Chevvron

I don't visit the UK often -- and I haven't been to Dunsfold -- but I have an interest in the history of the Harrier so that's the context in which I knew of Dunsfold. I was told (erroneously it now seems) that Dunsold was no longer an operational aerodrome. We learn something new every day...

Asturias56
11th Jan 2019, 15:58
That looks like a BIG operation...

Maybe Norfolk NAS Virginia???

dook
11th Jan 2019, 16:15
It wasn't military.

Self loading bear
11th Jan 2019, 16:16
What is the Dutch for 'clever clogs?'

Bollebozen

JENKINS
11th Jan 2019, 16:40
San Francisco International?

dook
11th Jan 2019, 16:48
I did a great tour at RAF Brüggen on the border with Holland near Roermond.

Our barman was from there and I picked up a few words and phrases from him. I can't remember much though, apart from Luchtvaartterrein.

Oh oh......Jenkins is back on the stage. :ok:

Boeing 314 flying boats San Francisco 1946.

JENKINS
11th Jan 2019, 16:56
Thanks. May I call Open House?

dook
11th Jan 2019, 17:00
Nuffink up sleeve ?

chevvron
11th Jan 2019, 17:07
thanks Chevvron

I don't visit the UK often -- and I haven't been to Dunsfold -- but I have an interest in the history of the Harrier so that's the context in which I knew of Dunsfold. I was told (erroneously it now seems) that Dunsold was no longer an operational aerodrome. We learn something new every day...
British Aerospace moved out in about '99 or 2000 and it was bought by its present owner with a view to building houses and until he got permission to do this, it has been available for aircraft including an annual airshow organised the 'The Brooklands Society' which generally included The Red Arrows.
I found a message on another forum that the 'last airshow there before it was dug up was to be 16 - 18 Jun 2019'.

dook
11th Jan 2019, 17:09
May we have another challenge please.

nvubu
11th Jan 2019, 17:41
Bombs away - runway at the bottom of the image.

https://bw2kka.db.files.1drv.com/y4mnoXoYcsHOvC5SoazlIE69jJU8NZDATeMyzt0-oI4AK3zG2UQGVYz17rvd0a8x5IWDzo4sJLgXxg45adew1hm6ndH5MgnCc6Q3 qE2RW-Ui04uK00KYoMtU5flqg_dNidA9DyYYtOtjY1ammSPE0H2hJMm-XVt6kcJvNr9Hdo-lfMjVsMgUuF_51nIViVlL3UfLRPuZF9JUfc2edHzA2My-w?width=693&height=1024&cropmode=none

Self loading bear
11th Jan 2019, 17:53
Snowy,
WW2
would mean northern Europe?

nvubu
11th Jan 2019, 18:08
Yes - this time it is snow and not sand :ok:

Yes - WWII

You'll have to define Northern Europe. :)

dook
11th Jan 2019, 18:32
I might define is as near the Baltic.

nvubu
11th Jan 2019, 18:35
South of the Baltic

dook
11th Jan 2019, 18:37
That's a large incendiary bomb load from one aeroplane, so possibly an RAF bomber.

OK. Poland ?

nvubu
11th Jan 2019, 18:48
Not Poland or RAF.

Bombs were on target.

https://mzofng.db.files.1drv.com/y4m0oJUbRJSuDUJV0EWmMCGXvgXcOd83Fn25pCKnkXxa7Dtu_VCYPWGRug6Q pk-J-JRuD5zeqilsisWL73dk23Z8ayZwnt7TAE6oU3gye3HnwtP_d9-vW-0Buw1GgIuBlHykaH6khOdnM-YoH0gl7ANeg2zmPnKRAEeYd4APc-VhsmHtQO208ZzVm6wDMMbOO0ZZA9vtJlXwAAEEv7gppk0Yg?width=1024&height=786&cropmode=none

dook
11th Jan 2019, 19:01
A Yank aeroplane then with a target in Germany ?

nvubu
11th Jan 2019, 19:12
Correct on both accounts.

These were on their way there on another day.

https://avj7hq.db.files.1drv.com/y4muCZb-UKjd-Vvl-wpmLrORZfdMogrk3iF2xKn4KDx8c61p0swWCQSziSOetaIEeWL0AllnuRRCh O1CEKK-IlpT5k6GlWnu3iOp8WNA-Qv4fh9UWgFvBUs2dxwewDSoDZWTwYi_zfSVwRPS3v25byFmX_ubKofZfLSMj p8rdQN275RmDGIzzMOolgwiQHNI5SckkmnwN7DGCs6UtyL84UoNw?width=1 024&height=824&cropmode=none

dook
11th Jan 2019, 19:40
Eighth Air Force Osnabruck ?

nvubu
11th Jan 2019, 19:54
Not Osnabruk.

Smoke markers going down

https://qivepw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mDiMY-qOXohyihddVspn-ag7YoqfWB81DIfl-R2Bg3F715UMbpRKtGQoC-S6v9Uf0PtJizOYd3AAOCUMLNoeUqqxXIAFFkm7K4V4m4vUzauvY9dd9xWbeR YvpvVEW8rWIQHVyQ9DuVpeWOwGgwvGWo9e4ezF8mfk_hnJ9ORfUw33c83Nrj srh-ZhRG0ZuASYgLz3n3wVyR4y-DNCdDvel2w?width=868&height=1024&cropmode=none

dook
11th Jan 2019, 20:07
Oberpfaffenhofen ?

nvubu
11th Jan 2019, 20:44
Well done dook, Oberpfaffenhofen it is.

I thought that image may give it away. My next two would definitely have done so.
https://z4nu4w.db.files.1drv.com/y4mkSkdY1nqvxrsKu7kV6MJnZ3aixGzS3mx20w_iCZAwSCeo7zRBV-zKlf7bdMiSxXRATItdwYnGNI35bQe-ySAuky4rN0gcwUHAfi9sPIyT-Su6CPk_GpXitjCWNAKOPq7pHaInYabKnUDLgif9bXdhqLo8xq_KXz4jnVTku vSQ4-X3JBVZpPcPICGpYnWOwltthK03xxFAScdW1LyIpJKXg?width=1024&height=1006&cropmode=none

https://oofkyw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mK85p9ygVbcpRbZWANuCw2JAhfgDJjo_qHEwrdT1Q3ahsWY0JrifxVubVd Y4r3QhayQzU7HcQxc94XNn3CnsBiXSJJjxTyV5U4sodteehNCLXaEO3dDCM9 2qgCyBGcYqmXWkIfg0eqmGMLkEYFoRs8G8tRb8piPqbiBxRrhzF9ykE4z-cAzHBKc1yjKUCq1V1iQ6hLit0qiogiXER7HuHoA?width=1024&height=776&cropmode=none

dook
11th Jan 2019, 20:53
It was the Fort DF-Z which helped to find it.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2wnr6om.jpg

Self loading bear
11th Jan 2019, 22:10
Dook

Pan Am Grace Airlines
1934 - First freight contract Cuzco - Huanacopampa
(Peru)
But no clue if your photo is departure or destination.

OH if correct (enough)
My grandfathers book is not finished but I have to do better character play in the future.

SLB

dook
12th Jan 2019, 08:38
Peru it is but you are over 500 miles away.

Asturias56
12th Jan 2019, 11:19
Huanchaco? FAP Captain Carlos Martínez de Pinillos International Airport???

Also known as Trujillo, La Libertad

dook
12th Jan 2019, 11:41
You have moved further away in the wrong direction.

Asturias56
12th Jan 2019, 11:52
Ah _ I went 500+ miles from Cuzco - but I see it could be 500+ miles from Huanacopapma

Which could be Arequipa?

dook
12th Jan 2019, 12:23
Bingo with Arequipa. :D

The thread is all yours.

Asturias56
12th Jan 2019, 12:45
Lots of volcanoes in that part of the world!!

Try this one for size - N hemisphere - and I'm off out for a couple of hours

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/408x264/2019_01_11_170108_600070455a3721e672cbd937ce4dcb88107465ac.j pg

dook
12th Jan 2019, 13:12
Possibly Italy.

Asturias56
12th Jan 2019, 14:18
No - bit warmer I think

And quite a long way from Italy

dook
12th Jan 2019, 14:25
An old bowser.

Thailand ?

Auxtank
12th Jan 2019, 15:32
Could it be India ?

India Four Two
12th Jan 2019, 15:58
Indonesia?

Asturias56
12th Jan 2019, 16:51
A very very long way from the the "I" countries above and Thailand...................

It's classed as an International Airport but I don't think it has any scheduled international flights.

Auxtank
12th Jan 2019, 17:03
I wonder...

Oman ?

Scrub that - too much greenery.

dook
12th Jan 2019, 17:07
Please tell us if we are east of Europe or west.

The 180 degree meridian may be used.

Auxtank
12th Jan 2019, 17:09
Are we in Africa - a gnat's hair from the Equator?

Asturias56
12th Jan 2019, 17:25
No no no no

We are about as far as it's possible to get from Thailand etc in the N Hemisphere.......... I'm off out for a glass or two ................

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/441x495/2019_01_11_170743_57be554a737121565759edc8d7157ea64d8a9747.j pg

dook
12th Jan 2019, 17:31
Please tell us if we are east of Europe or west.
The 180 degree meridian may be used.

You have said no. Does that mean we are not going to get answer ?

South America possibly.

Auxtank
12th Jan 2019, 17:35
Too late dook - Asturias has gone off for one of his glasses that he does of an evening.
I reckon N. Africa

dook
12th Jan 2019, 17:37
My glass is in front of me.

I think he needs to look at the ICAO definition of an international airport.

Auxtank
12th Jan 2019, 17:40
Mine too. Cheers!

Agreed.

ve3id
12th Jan 2019, 19:15
How about Bermuda LF Wade?

Auxtank
12th Jan 2019, 20:04
Asturias is certainly having that "glass or two".

Come on. East or West of the Prime Meridian for starters...

I have a feeling we're back in sunny Spain or Portugal.

Auxtank
12th Jan 2019, 21:01
No no no no

We are about as far as it's possible to get from Thailand etc in the N Hemisphere.......... I'm off out for a glass or two ................

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/441x495/2019_01_11_170743_57be554a737121565759edc8d7157ea64d8a9747.j pg


The only tells in that photo are that every European airport does slanted roofs and the flaps are at Flaps 5.
I have no idea what we can infer from this...

Asturias56
12th Jan 2019, 21:44
jeez guys - relax - there has to be more to life than "Which Aerodrome" on a Saturday night... well there is in my life - even in winter we can find more to do than work the internet in N Italy...

We're talking the America's here - about 180 +/- 20 degrees west of Thailand etc etc

the airport has the words "international" in its title and the local authorities classify it as "international" class but I think it only has 4-6 scheduled flights a day

It's not too far from the sea - bit of a hidden gem IMHO - not on the major tourist circuit - now midnight-ish in the Po Valley - goodnight to everyone........

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/841x523/2019_01_11_170839_1e14a5dd77114fad6fed5d6c1cfcae30d47a26b8.j pg

Asturias56
13th Jan 2019, 08:46
Ok - a refreshing stroll and a coffee later... this might help...

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/273x234/2019_01_11_170142_d63313045c31c7dee9b96a356809f09cd87b3bdd.j pg

dook
13th Jan 2019, 08:57
Looking at your longitude clue, are we in Mexico ?

The flying boat is a Grumman Albatross. Looking.

dook
13th Jan 2019, 09:10
There's one painted like that at Campeche.

Asturias56
13th Jan 2019, 09:20
Dook again!!

Didn't think it would last long with that clue

here's GoogleErth - you can see the what looks like the original airstrip retained to the NNW of the main runway. It's an interesting place - quite quiet but some good hotels and restaurants......

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/639x810/2019_01_11_170004_65c107812e675498a1d819659594c2d8b3164f66.j pg

Auxtank
13th Jan 2019, 09:21
There's one painted like that at Campeche.

Darn you dook - I just came here to post that. It is indeed Campeche International (MMCP)

dook
13th Jan 2019, 10:10
Sorry about that gentlemen.

The orientation of this runway is 06 from the bottom.

http://i66.tinypic.com/hrln9i.jpg

Asturias56
13th Jan 2019, 10:53
text seems to say "..historic image from 2006" - I feel old.........................

Must be a steady wind from the NE - all the rubber is on the south end of 06..............

rectangular road pattern so unlikely to be Europe - I'll punt on the US of A..........................

dook
13th Jan 2019, 10:57
OK Mr, Cats Eyes, but it's not the USA.

Auxtank
13th Jan 2019, 10:59
Are we "Back in the USSR" ?

Asturias56
13th Jan 2019, 11:10
Looking closely I think the ORIGINAL access road was that "county road" (to use an American description ) that heads out from the terminal are to the left and hits another small road at a right angle. There is a bigger, and newer road , that cuts across country to the NW . Hard to say but maybe the airfield is under renovation/improvement - and there is a larger town off the picture to the NW?

Also a very long (and looks older) extension to 06 to the SW - so maybe used by larger aircraft in the past??? Or a great big hill there???

If it's not the USA it might be Australia

dook
13th Jan 2019, 11:14
Gentlemen,

We are not in the old USSR or Australia, but the USA suggestion was closer.

Auxtank
13th Jan 2019, 11:32
Perchance Canada ?

dook
13th Jan 2019, 11:44
Not Canada either.

It's warm here......

Auxtank
13th Jan 2019, 11:50
Juan Gualberto Gómez Airport
Formerly Varadero

dook
13th Jan 2019, 12:04
Now there's a good shot.

Cuba it is. Your service. :ok:

Auxtank
13th Jan 2019, 12:07
Thank you. Started a square search south of USA.

OH as have to go out for a few hours.

India Four Two
13th Jan 2019, 12:35
This one was well known in its day:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/571x543/screen_shot_2019_01_11_at_11_02_57__a5fe9f093c72f885c6c70ccd 86015388f093fe52.png

dook
13th Jan 2019, 12:40
Looks decidedly UK.

India Four Two
13th Jan 2019, 13:32
Looks can be deceiving :)

dook
13th Jan 2019, 13:34
Thank you.

I'll therefore shoot for USA or Canada.

India Four Two
13th Jan 2019, 15:13
Obviously no sense antenna on your ADF. ;)
Try a reciprocal heading - go east young man.

PS There is a US connection.

kenparry
13th Jan 2019, 15:17
............................................Germany?

dook
13th Jan 2019, 15:20
Obviously no sense antenna on your ADF.

It's the loop which is u/s.

dook
13th Jan 2019, 16:54
Maybe we're in France.

Auxtank
13th Jan 2019, 17:34
Another vote for Germany...

or maybe Holland.

Kemble Pitts
13th Jan 2019, 17:40
Main airfield, Rechlin. German version of Farnborough before and during WWII.

Auxtank
13th Jan 2019, 18:04
Main airfield, Rechlin. German version of Farnborough before and during WWII.

I knew it was Germany alles is sehr neat und tidy.
So the trees and outline of taxiways is still there on the pre 1940 but later to the south we had this;

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/465x611/5555_9bae860134732484fa07074a2ec49f625219781b.jpg

dook
13th Jan 2019, 19:08
Yes, I found it a while back but I'm puzzled as to why Kemble Pitts referred to it as the main airfield.

Auxtank
13th Jan 2019, 19:23
Yes, I found it a while back but I'm puzzled as to why Kemble Pitts referred to it as the main airfield.

Minimal research (glass in front of me) leads me to opine that Kemble Pitts accurately describes the original airfield - which following commencement of hostilities in 1939 - was moved down the road to the bigger space.

Helluva long taxi between the two though.

Here's the Wiki old boy; a complicated past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechlin–Lärz_Airfield

India Four Two
14th Jan 2019, 01:09
Yes, the Erprobungsstellen (testing locations) Rechlin.

Here's an RAF reconnaissance photo:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/425x507/screen_shot_2019_01_11_at_13_57_01__4fe7b4605c7a91b628221852 6569e9f8c6fa5c6d.png

Here's the US connection:
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/587x328/screen_shot_2019_01_13_at_19_00_30__5d8e451bdd815dc958b26b41 94cc3a7c35b813ea.png
https://www.ndr.de/kultur/geschichte/Rechlin-Wo-die-deutsche-Luftwaffe-geboren-wurde,rechlin126.html

A history of Rechlin can be found here: https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2017/02/05/erprobungsstelle-rechlin/
Something I didn't know is that it is adjacent to the largest lake wholly within Germany - the Müritz See.

There is an interesting-looking museum, just to the northwest of the old airfield:
https://www.luftfahrttechnisches-museum-rechlin.de

Kemble Pitts has control.

dook
14th Jan 2019, 13:08
I wonder where Kemble Pitts is.

Auxtank
14th Jan 2019, 13:37
I wonder if he is aware of rules re: winner chooses next or declares Open House to throw it open to the floor for anyone.

Asturias56
14th Jan 2019, 13:54
Not a regular - only 36 posts since March 2016 but they are the one's that need encouragement

According to the rules he has 48 Hours and I think we should be patient = have to wait to 19:40 Board Time on Wednesday - I shall go back to building my model Cant 501 out of matchsticks

"

That winner shall either post another challenge or declare the floor open. Anyone may then post the next challenge.
If the winner of the challenge does not respond to the notification of their success within 48 hours, an Open house can be declared when there is consensus between multiple other posters which are on line.
When the poster of a challenge does not respond within 48 hours of a posted answer, this poster can be declared winner if the answer is considered correct in a consensus of multiple other posters.
If Open House is declared, regular posters should not jump in immediately, but time should be given for those who are not great at naming the correct location as they may have some good images.
There will only be one challenge running at a time.

dook
14th Jan 2019, 13:55
According to "rule" 4 he has 48 hours.

I think this should be 24 and still considers time zone differences.

Perhaps nvubu might consider this.

Asturias56
14th Jan 2019, 13:55
24 is too tight - if you are travelling

dook
14th Jan 2019, 13:58
If you are travelling perhaps you should declare OH anyway. We do this on my other site.

A stalled thread is no fun.

Auxtank
14th Jan 2019, 14:09
If you are travelling perhaps you should declare OH anyway. We do this on my other site.

A stalled thread is no fun.

Would a nudging PM be considered overzealous?

dook
14th Jan 2019, 14:18
But he would only see it if he's on line, which he isn't.

Auxtank
14th Jan 2019, 14:20
But he'd get a notification Email with the content of the PM whether or not he was logged on here.

dook
14th Jan 2019, 14:22
Only if he is subscribed to it. I don't get them.

Send him one then and see if you get a response.

Auxtank
14th Jan 2019, 14:26
No you. You've been here longer than me. You're the senior man. ;)

dook
14th Jan 2019, 14:35
Done...………..

Auxtank
14th Jan 2019, 14:40
What now?

Now, we wait...

Asturias56
14th Jan 2019, 14:49
Looking back this thread sometimes went days without an update or contribution - I know that doesn't suit some but there's a danger we'll finish up with a small number of "enthusiasts" only

dook
14th Jan 2019, 14:56
Disagree. We are always at the mercy of someone who doesn't play within the spirit of the game.

Anyone who regularly plays here is by definition an enthusiast.

Our friend has made only 36 posts in almost three years.

Auxtank
14th Jan 2019, 15:10
I doubt that our friend has intentionally absconded from his obligation to either pose a new challenge or declare OH on this thread but rather that he is unaware of the matter.

Either way it is frustrating when one is in the mood for an aerodrome challenge. Patience I suppose is the order of the day.

Back to making that full scale working glider out of old loo roll tubes.

dook
14th Jan 2019, 15:29
This pilot is departing the fix.

nvubu
14th Jan 2019, 16:10
I changed it to 48 hours as 24 hours was thought too tight.
Have sent them a PM.

edit to add: I wouldn't worry too much about 2-3 days delay, this sort of thing has occurred since the start of the 1st thread.

Kemble Pitts
14th Jan 2019, 17:58
OK, OK, can't a chap have a break...??

Not being very genned-up on the current level of difficulty being posted by you 'officionados' I've taken a punt on this one. Ready to be beaten within seconds...

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/241x283/capture_ad63637202e19b662784cea27580567cb6357073.png

Kemble Pitts
14th Jan 2019, 18:06
In response to queries about Rechlin being the main airfield.

The one posted in the photo was the original aerodrome with all of the complex and comprehensive test facilities much like RAE Farnborough. This remained the case throughout the war. However, when the jets came along Rechlin was not able to accomodate them or to be easily extended to do so, so they built a new aerodrome a mile or so south with hard runways and not much else (known as Rechlin-Larz). So the original remained the 'parent field'.

The adjacent Muritz lake was also used for seaplane and marine craft testing.

Thought you might like to know...

Auxtank
14th Jan 2019, 18:59
In response to queries about Rechlin being the main airfield.

The one posted in the photo was the original aerodrome with all of the complex and comprehensive test facilities much like RAE Farnborough. This remained the case throughout the war. However, when the jets came along Rechlin was not able to accomodate them or to be easily extended to do so, so they built a new aerodrome a mile or so south with hard runways and not much else (known as Rechlin-Larz). So the original remained the 'parent field'.

The adjacent Muritz lake was also used for seaplane and marine craft testing.

Thought you might like to know...

A fascinating history Kemble and a very interesting read of those links posted.

dook - return to last reported fix immediate!

nvubu
14th Jan 2019, 19:22
Welcome to the mad-house :)

I don't think it's the UK, but I do think it is in Europe

Auxtank
14th Jan 2019, 19:24
It looks like Europe

Possibly France or Switzerland.

JENKINS
14th Jan 2019, 19:29
Short term memories perhaps? Akeman Street.

Auxtank
14th Jan 2019, 19:34
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/275x183/unknown_757eede94751b59bdcce260fbdf11bf667d94b55.jpeg
Bloody Norah Jenkins...you're good...

Kemble Pitts
14th Jan 2019, 19:39
Very good shot Jenkins, has it appeared in this 'theatre' before?.

Out of interest Wiki says that it closed in 1947 but I have a quarter- mil chart dated 1973 that shows it active. Anybody got any insight on what was happening between those dates?

JENKINS
14th Jan 2019, 19:55
Thanks, 'twas here not too long ago. One within this parish wrote of living close to Akeman Street further East, and I have many long days of flying close to the road and also further East.

Now this. Visited several times with two different airlines, and always managed a visual approach. V22 very busy chez moi today.https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1547145377_f5e368db046e96d7ddddb99b32d142d2b9 4965af.jpg

Self loading bear
14th Jan 2019, 20:19
Looks like beach to the left
looks like marsh to the right
its is on the pointy end of a (pen)insula?
V22 = Osprey or balbuzard

Brits who give French criptics
Thats difficult for a Dutch Bolleboos

SLB

JENKINS
14th Jan 2019, 20:22
Yes to beach and marsh, yes to a small peninsula. V22 Osprey purely a red herring, very noisy overhead at the moment.

Auxtank
14th Jan 2019, 20:39
Yes to beach and marsh, yes to a small peninsula. V22 Osprey purely a red herring, very noisy overhead at the moment.


Angleterre ? or am I many miles off...

JENKINS
14th Jan 2019, 20:44
Not England. Miles? Thought that kilometres were in vogue at the moment. Distance difficult to quantify; for me something like Munich to Helsinki was long range in my scheduled airline jobs, so perhaps a statement that I was a regional airline pilot might help.

nvubu
14th Jan 2019, 21:14
If I am right, we did this location less than a month ago, but with a non Google Earth photo from the other way.

edit to add:
or maybe not, as that one (Chatham Island) had on 05 on the runway :(

JENKINS
14th Jan 2019, 21:31
North at top, a very long way from Chatham Island. N.B. my affirmation of regional airline, and implication of Europe. The Chatham dynasty not too popular at this spot.

JENKINS
14th Jan 2019, 21:42
Bed time, nos dda. I will weave my way upstairs, back tomorrow morning UK time.

jensdad
14th Jan 2019, 23:04
North at top, a very long way from Chatham Island. N.B. my affirmation of regional airline, and implication of Europe. The Chatham dynasty not too popular at this spot.
Could the 'Chatham Dynasty' be the Royal Navy? Could the airfield be on one of the German Frisian Islands? I'll take a wild slash at the magnificently-named Wangerooge.

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 09:02
I regret that this is not a 'Riddle of the Sands' island, although on reflection there is a distinct link between the book and this location. 'Chatham' refers to the family, not the Royal Navy.

dook
15th Jan 2019, 09:11
Morning Jenks.

Small peninsula, as you said earlier, or an island ?

Perhaps we're not in Germany.

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 09:14
Small, relatively insignificant, peninsula among others.

Auxtank
15th Jan 2019, 09:15
I regret that this is not a 'Riddle of the Sands' island, although on reflection there is a distinct link between the book and this location. 'Chatham' refers to the family, not the Royal Navy.

Has lead me in a very roundabout way to

Donegal (EIDL)

OH if so

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 09:30
Yes, that's it. Erskine Childers, of course, leading you to Eire. I knew it in days of yore as Carrickfin, the local village. Nice breakfast there as the passengers on the oil charters headed off to the Atlantic.

OH declared.

Auxtank
15th Jan 2019, 09:35
A fun challenge as I spent a good deal of time exploring the various peninsulas (peninsulae?) of Northern Europe and made some interesting discoveries so thank you. And yes, Childers irish roots and eventual execution for gun running lead me up to N.I.
Eddie's Cafe appears to still be there.

Indeed, OH

dook
15th Jan 2019, 09:36
Ball rolling again.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2r5cehw.jpg

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 10:18
Totally unfamiliar with the locale, but I wonder about an engine change at Changi? Perhaps the tail of a 'Frightener' to the right?

dook
15th Jan 2019, 10:23
Not familiar with the 'Frightener' unless you mean a Valiant, but it's not Singapore.

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 10:26
Bristol Freighter!

dook
15th Jan 2019, 10:30
Dunno………….

Auxtank
15th Jan 2019, 10:36
Is we in Oz ?

sycamore
15th Jan 2019, 10:41
Maybe a `whining wheelbarrow` at mid-left...? Frightener probably civilian,as Kiwis were camo`d..civil airfield...?

dook
15th Jan 2019, 11:16
We are not in Oz or Kiwi land.

The airfield is civilian and military, but was military when the photograph was taken.

sycamore
15th Jan 2019, 11:43
When was the photo taken...?
Swaying palm trees and near the Equator..?

dook
15th Jan 2019, 11:49
Taken in 1966 and close to the Equator.

sycamore
15th Jan 2019, 12:12
`CAT`/WBGG..?

dook
15th Jan 2019, 12:15
Well found sycamore.

Kuching it is, when it was an RAF airfield.

Please take the stage.

sycamore
15th Jan 2019, 12:58
Open House;
103 Sqdn dispersal on far side ,but no aircraft so we must have been busy; Brit may have brought `Frankie Howard`s roadshow,and `hosties`! Frightener was Kiwi,further along would be Valetta,Twin Pins,Hastings and hangar..
Left,out of sight,far side ,would be Javelins(60/64),Hunters(20),Auster/Beaver...
It was actually civil as well as Borneo/Malayan Airways DC3s and F-27s were operating normally...
Happy days for a first tour,2 engine failures,1 tail-rotor failure....
Where did you find the picture...?

dook
15th Jan 2019, 13:07
I found the picture in a private Air Traffic e-mail (my wife was ATC).

All I know is that it is a Ghurka band welcoming new arrivals.

I also have a pic of Belvedere helicopters if you would like them.

I have more.

OH is in order, but of course I cannot post.

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 14:06
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1547053186_dc03a881bf1057fa92e59e251103580a3d f7b0b2.jpg
For Sycamore it was downhill all the way from there. Right canny lads, this one. Never been there, or even close. Completely different scene on the other side of the runway, and might mean more to a WIWOL, since at least one of my acquaintance has been spotted there. Might even have taken root, ho--ho.

Liked the Britannia.

dook
15th Jan 2019, 14:10
Liked the Britannia.

Can you identify the airline ?

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 14:20
Yes, British Eagle. Various identities, had once been Cunard Eagle, tits up 1968.

India Four Two
15th Jan 2019, 14:22
A Brit with a stylised eagle on the tail? Let me think! :)

Incidentally, for anyone mystified by Sycamore’s CAT reference, Kuching is the Indonesian/Malay word for cat - properly spelled kucing.

PS You have to be quick off the blocks to beat JENKINS these days!

dook
15th Jan 2019, 14:47
Do any of you sleuths have a plot to post ?

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 15:22
Sorry, finger trouble. It's now there, above.

dook
15th Jan 2019, 15:38
Two observations:

the vehicle entering the car park appears to be driving on the left and

the jets seem to have no fins, but I think that's due to oblique view distortion

UK ?

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 15:56
Not UK, horrible distortion.

ea200
15th Jan 2019, 16:06
Definitely driving on the left from the road markings. Deciduous trees, low lying from the swampy areas, Oz or NZ?

dook
15th Jan 2019, 16:06
Seeth Efrica ?

chevvron
15th Jan 2019, 16:06
Tokyo Nagoya?

Asturias56
15th Jan 2019, 16:07
Dook tho is correct - all the arrows on the road indicate it's right hand drive country - so UK , Australia, Indonesia, Japan, SE Asia, S and S Central Africa and Guyana

Could be Adelaide??

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 16:16
Yes to ea200, keep looking. No to Adelaide. Busy Adelaide at the moment, start of the cycling season.

Auxtank
15th Jan 2019, 16:18
US of A?

Scrub that. Vehicular movements noted.

Asturias56
15th Jan 2019, 18:05
That's a lot of car parking for even for Australia NZ - we must be talking about a big airport... doesn't look like any of the ones I've been to .......

Auxtank
15th Jan 2019, 18:07
This one looked fairly straightforward initially but has ended up being a bit of a tricky customer.

To borrow Asturias' line; 'off out for a glass or two' and then another look at it later.

That hangar looks like it could be a .......

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 18:16
Keep looking, canny lads. Lots of car parking, limited aircraft ramp space. A mirage perhaps?

dook
15th Jan 2019, 18:32
canny lads

That's twice you've said that - trying to think laterally but I'm having a glass or six......

Dora-9
15th Jan 2019, 18:32
Civil side at RAAF Williamtown NSW? OH if correct.

broadreach
15th Jan 2019, 18:33
I.e. not a terminal but a repair or manufacturing facility?

JENKINS
15th Jan 2019, 19:18
Dora-9 is so close. Canny lads, Newcastle is the civil side of RAAF Williamstown, and thus the 'mirage.' Here is the complete picture, with Open House declared -https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1547579285_fef5777f179b329a3984135870e1bef225 83703d.jpg

dook
15th Jan 2019, 19:20
Is anyone else not doing very well of late ?

Auxtank
15th Jan 2019, 19:43
Is anyone else not doing very well of late ?

Affirm.

Back from Inn. Your six glasses - raise you seven. :)

However, this is my 100th post on PPRUNE so Cheers!

Auxtank
15th Jan 2019, 19:50
Try this;

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/670x501/656554_99c22c442ab899767a8aa63b74f716b2b03ca273.jpg

Taxiway.

dook
15th Jan 2019, 20:23
Wing, Buckinghamshire ?

Auxtank
15th Jan 2019, 20:27
Wing, Buckinghamshire ?

Wrong AMSL

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x680/fdfzdf_cc1205af85cf6d9e3330d98e4852fbd955135a5d.jpg

dook
15th Jan 2019, 20:50
Well, I would say that is in the UK.

Was it RAF WW2 ?

Auxtank
15th Jan 2019, 20:54
It is UK. What's left of it.

(Sorry, should clarify - what's left of the airfield - not the UK - especially after tonight's commons vote, etc)

dook
15th Jan 2019, 21:13
Yes - I have sent a personal e-mail to my Conservative MP with a some warnings in no uncertain terms.

Auxtank
15th Jan 2019, 21:14
Auxtank has low fuel warning and must thus find nearest bed to land on.

Leave you with this;

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/723x599/3443434_0a44f0e38e9aade69e37c2d02cadc9b6543a3cd3.jpg

Back in morning Zulu time. Night.

India Four Two
16th Jan 2019, 01:47
Gosfield and Wattisham are 292 ft AMSL but neither fit the picture.

Dora-9
16th Jan 2019, 05:09
Actually Jenkins, it is Williamtown. Williamstown is a suburb of Melbourne. Confusing, I know...

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 08:09
That’s Chilbolton.

dook
16th Jan 2019, 08:17
I will confirm that winner.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 08:25
Well done to TheiC - 'tis RAF Chilbolton indeed.

Further info here: https://www.airshowspresent.com/raf-chilbolton.html

TheiC - you have control.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 09:13
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1333/dsc03193_perfectlyclear_40f73ede264f99a95cd8f92bb8d72a67fe0a e666.jpg

Many thanks...

I'll do my best to respond promptly to any queries and suggestions...

JENKINS
16th Jan 2019, 09:24
Sutton Bridge, Lincolnshire? An addition of thanks to Dora-9 for nudge on Melbourne. Fine city, oldest school chum there, in Malvern having left Malvern UK in 1967.

dook
16th Jan 2019, 09:29
Maybe Oirland.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 10:27
Maybe Oirland.

Yep, I'll take a stab at that. Poolbeg chimneys from Dublin Airport (remote corner of)

dook
16th Jan 2019, 10:32
The only problem is that I can't find an airstrip/field around there except Baldonnell and it isn't that.

dook
16th Jan 2019, 10:51
Auxtank,

Viewed from Dublin airport the two chimneys are almost in line.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 10:55
Indeed. Hummm...

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 11:01
Not the Emerald Isle, I'm afraid, though another place nearby regularly hosts visitors from there, nor Lincolnshire, on which I might comment further later on.

dook
16th Jan 2019, 11:17
...another place nearby regularly hosts visitors from there

Might those visitors be animals ?

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 11:31
No. Strictly speaking, they are mineral (but do tell us why you ask..?).

dook
16th Jan 2019, 11:37
I was thinking racehorses.

Now I'm wondering how visitors can be mineral.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 11:47
Strictly speaking, my dictionary confirms that I'm using the word outside its usual meaning, but only as others here do, especially the unlicensed.

dook
16th Jan 2019, 11:55
As in fizzy drinks ?

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 12:42
I’m afraid not. They walk amongst us here, though often returning to the Balcony.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 12:46
This challenge has taken a decidedly surreal angle.

TheiC - are we in England?

dook
16th Jan 2019, 12:50
I think we are not.

One across in a crossword puzzle.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 13:06
No, not England.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 13:09
...and for the surrealists amongst us, the visitors from the Emerald Isle do not come from the Emerald Isle.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 13:17
You mean they are itinerant - merely passing through the emerald isle on their way to some further destination ??

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 13:19
Almost precisely the opposite.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 13:26
Okaaaay.

Russia ?

dook
16th Jan 2019, 13:26
Enough.

Are we in northern Europe ?

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 13:31
At last! Yes, Northern Europe.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 13:32
France was mentioned and then not ?

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 13:32
That's to say, Europe. You'd have to define 'Northern' for me, though instinctively I say yes.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 13:33
Non. Ce n'est pas la France.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 13:34
Net, ne rossiya.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 13:36
Is it a new airport - say, in the last five years or so ?

Self loading bear
16th Jan 2019, 13:50
I’m afraid not. They walk amongst us here, though often returning to the Balcony.

Are you refering to fossils?
as being elderly people on vacation?

or diamonds?
as being a certain squadron which lands in Ireland but also nearby the airfield of the challenge?

SLB

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 14:02
Is it a new airport - say, in the last five years or so ?

No, it will shortly celebrate its centenary.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 14:05
Are you refering to fossils?
as being elderly people on vacation?

or diamonds?
as being a certain squadron which lands in Ireland but also nearby the airfield of the challenge?

SLB

I was talking about my use of the word 'visitor'. The visitors I mentioned are not people. I've a feeling that people are over-thinking that clue.

sycamore
16th Jan 2019, 14:29
Birds,geese,swans,etc??

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 14:45
No. Aeroplanes. ��

kenparry
16th Jan 2019, 15:56
Ah! Are the "visitors" Ryanair?

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 16:16
Ah! Are the "visitors" Ryanair?
Well that took about five hours longer than I expected it to!

kenparry
16th Jan 2019, 16:23
OK, so we have narrowed it down to somewhere close to one of the several hundred Ryanair destinations...……………………….. might take a while …………………….

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 16:26
OK, so we have narrowed it down to somewhere close to one of the several hundred Ryanair destinations...……………………….. might take a while …………………….

In fact, one of several hundred Ryanair destinations not served from Ireland.

dook
16th Jan 2019, 16:39
I'm sure this will help everyone.

Bye.

http://i65.tinypic.com/dztnrd.jpg

JENKINS
16th Jan 2019, 16:42
So perhaps Padua?

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 16:54
So perhaps Padua?

No, not Padua

I wouldn't have said that Padua was Northern Europe...

JENKINS
16th Jan 2019, 16:56
Agreed, the balcony was drawing my thoughts. 100 years, how about Danzig?

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 17:21
The Balcony was 'spotter's balcony', where they talk about aeroplanes as 'visitors'...

Not Danzig, I'm afraid.

You wouldn't want an engine failure off either end here, in an SEP, but that doesn't bother many of the users, nor did it bother some of the noted alumni of the aeroclub.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 17:36
Are we somewhere along the Rhine ?

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 17:42
Ingolstadt to punt it out there.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 18:01
Rhein? Nein.

Punt it back in, if you would...

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 18:08
Das is gut.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 18:11
For the surrealists again:

This aerodrome isn't in the Titanic, nor is it in the Golgafrincham B-Ark, nor the Bistromath, but you might say it's in something of their kind, the name of which Douglas Adams would have delighted in.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 18:27
Switzerland.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 18:28
I’m afraid not Switzerland. But we’re narrowing it down!

chevvron
16th Jan 2019, 18:41
Szczecin has undergone recent upgrading works ie construction of a parallel taxiway and it is a Ryanair destination in pine forest with chimneys nearby, BUT I don't think it's 100 years old being an ex Warsaw Pact airfield.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 18:45
Good shot but there's three tall chimneys visible from the apron there. Two only in the above pic - unless Dame Photoshoppen has been at work...

Which on this thread would be a crime punishable by death by de-icer.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 18:50
No photoshop involved... I think we’ll aim for the target now, rather than area suggestions...

dook
16th Jan 2019, 18:51
PM for Aux.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 18:53
How about Austria - Magrathea being an unlikely candidate.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 18:56
DEFINITELY not Magrathea. Nor any suggestion that Slartibartfast did any of the coastline, it lacking anything resembling a fjord.

kaikohe76
16th Jan 2019, 19:52
The surrounding trees on the airfield are very similar to those at Mulhouse, looking at video & photos of the unfortunate loss of the A320 when it could not climb away.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 20:00
An older view but from roughly the same place...https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1333/dsc03190_edit_perfectlyclear_perfectlyclear_4ec8b606e877eb0a 78229a00601dc2c7e2a6533a.jpg

dook
16th Jan 2019, 21:02
What a great twelve hour day...….:ugh::ugh::ugh:

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 21:25
If you’re getting frustrated just ask and I’ll post the answer. I don’t want to hold things up.

Self loading bear
16th Jan 2019, 21:29
If you’re getting frustrated just ask and I’ll post the answer. I don’t want to hold things up.​​​​​​

no, have us search some more.

Checklist Charlie
16th Jan 2019, 21:43
Is this a competition to identify some airfield or other or a competition to see who can make up the most obscure of clues?
CC

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 21:46
Katowice-Muchowiec, Poland.

TheiC
16th Jan 2019, 21:53
Open house.

grizzled
16th Jan 2019, 21:57
TheiC

On behalf of ppruners (both long-timers and newbies) who've been sitting quietly by, I apologise to you for the rudeness of some of the posters here. They've been complaining for months about the lack of interest in the forum, especially from "non-regulars" and then they lash out like privileged boors -- all the while bending their own newly resurrected and posted rules as suits them -- or ignoring them completely.

Disgusting

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 22:17
Mid January.

A depressing time of year to say the least.

Auxtank
16th Jan 2019, 22:25
Okay - here we go. And it's going to be tricky.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/500x375/233535_2c66ec485fa0f751887ba0653319bfdfcae7b48e.jpg

Back onboard zulu morning.

India Four Two
17th Jan 2019, 04:36
TheiC,

I agree with grizzled. I’ve been playing this game for more years than I can remember. Some players are becoming too impatient.

No one should feel pressured into revealing their challenge.

kaikohe76
17th Jan 2019, 06:28
Hi Auxtank & others, the concrete slabs remind me of Sleap in Shropshire.

Auxtank
17th Jan 2019, 07:46
On looking they are similar.

All be it on a smaller scale...

Asturias56
17th Jan 2019, 07:53
As a newboy I find this thread fascinating...

some of the old challenges (and clues) are amazing

I do agree tho that people need to be less impatient.. Pprune has worldwide coverage and most people only log in once a day at most I suspect. Sometimes this thread gets like a chat room with literally instant responses. I prefer the e older, more relaxed tempo.....

kcockayne
17th Jan 2019, 08:28
As a newboy I find this thread fascinating...

some of the old challenges (and clues) are amazing

I do agree tho that people need to be less impatient.. Pprune has worldwide coverage and most people only log in once a day at most I suspect. Sometimes this thread gets like a chat room with literally instant responses. I prefer the e older, more relaxed tempo.....
I am totally with you, Asturias. It is for that reason that I have not posted for quite a while - that, & the fact that I haven't had any idea of any of the airfields I/Ds !

BSD
17th Jan 2019, 08:33
Best thread on PPrune!

Latest challenge: haven't a clue!

BSD.

Auxtank
17th Jan 2019, 08:46
If these cows could talk...

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x525/img_4481_f93fd976f230eb2dc7f2b659d095cf8528119d68.jpg

dook
17th Jan 2019, 08:54
Having frustrated myself yesterday because I couldn't find the challenge, I am not going to annoy myself today.

This one might be in the UK. A fire hydrant (I think) in the middle of a airfield is certainly unusual.

Maybe weapons were involved.

TheiC
17th Jan 2019, 09:12
They certainly were. Greenham Common.