Which Aerodrome Mk III

[evansb]

Oui, certainement!

[LFT]

Lyon I think it is

[evansb]

Lyon? Non. Je suis desole.

[Mark 1]

Phalsbourg Airbase?

[evansb]

Sorry, not Phalsbourg, but in the correct region.

[Davidsoffice]

C'est possible Metz?

[Duckbutt]

Agreed, Frescaty airbase near Metz.

Search not helped by image being deliberately degraded on Google Earth.

[evansb]

Davidsoffice is correct.:ok: The Armee de l'Air base Metz-Frescaty, France. Your turn.

[Davidsoffice]

Think that's the airfield that holds Europe's biggest balloon meet.

OH as unable to reach my pics at present.

[nvubu]

To keep the thread going, where might this be?

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121109A.jpg

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121109D.jpg

[aviate1138]

North Africa? Just a wild stab.....

[nvubu]

It is not in Africa

[500N]

Is in it Australia ?

[nvubu]

No, it's not in Australia either.

[Cows getting bigger]

Andrewsfield?

[nvubu]

It's not Andrewsfield - and it's not in the UK.

[Cows getting bigger]

Cunning. Is it part of the Op FRANTIC set-up? If so, I'm guessing Poltava.

OH if correct.

[nvubu]

Well done CGB - Poltava it is.

This was going to be my next photo
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121109C.jpg

And here's an aerial of how it was back then.
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121109B.jpg

Open House has been declared

[evansb]

Tricky challenge. It was instantly obvious (to me) that the B-17s belonged the the 303rd Bomb Group, 8th Air Force, USAAF, so Australia, and Africa were improbable locations. However, lets have a show of hands from all the ppruners who know where Poltava is? Oh, its in Ukraine! Thanks for making that clear.

[500N]

evansb

After putting Australia, I realized the group letters were showing
so looked them up and realised it couldn't be Aus.

[asw22]

Hello all! As I understand it is OH...Staying in the same line as my last offering :) there it goes:

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/7880/pprune3.jpg

[nvubu]

Somewhere in France

[asw22]

Yep (that part was not too hard I guess...)

[India Four Two]

How about northeast France?

[500N]

asw

Are those old bomb craters top left and just off centre right of the photograph ?

[asw22]

Not northern France (so far all my proposals are in the same region...)...Top left are machine gun positions or foxholes...I couldn't say better. If you look closely you will see the the airfield has been abandoned (photo is end of 43) probably in 41 or 42.
It is however very much in the state it was left at this point: nothing has been looted here, the area is still a red zone for inhabitant and will stay that way until august 44.

[cuefaye]

It's either my eyes or my age, or both. But I'm damned if I can even see an airfield?

[asw22]

Not all airfields were concrete based..especially in 1940, date of creation and main use of this one (according to RAF analysis up to 35 Bf 109 have been based here...). This photo shows 21 individual hangars plus at least four netted open air revetments.

The take off area begins between the two copses/farms and goes toward NE where one can see the telltale set of trenches forbidding any further use of the airfield.

Those trenches were a very sure way of identifying the landing/T/O areas of german grass airfields once they were abandoned or at least put on reserve.

[nvubu]

I guess we are going to need some further clues on this.

[evansb]

Wissant, France ?

[asw22]

Not far away. It is one of the many fields created during the Battle of Britain but lasted a bit longer than BoB duration along with some other closeby... nearest large town is Calais (I could show you a 2009 photo where Calais is visible from the field...).

JV

[evansb]

St. Inglevert ?

[nvubu]

Isn't Calais in Northern France?

Coquelles or Peuplingne

[asw22]

Congratulations to Nvubu! This was indeed Peuplingues...one of the rare BoB places this side of the Channel to still have some visible remnants...

You have the floor!

[nvubu]

Thank you

Well that was a pure guess, although now that you say I'm right, I've found the location on GE here at 50°53'47.07" N 1°45'09.68" E

I can't seem to access Photobucket at the moment, so I'll declare Open House

[Lordflasheart]

Hippo - there's some kind of problem with PB - a couple of weeks or more ago I found I could not get onto the PB website at all - with IE8.

Seems they've got a new website - but fortunately they've kept the old one running. I found that I could access the new website with Firefox - but then I couldn't do what I wanted with my album.

I elected to revert to the old website (via the new) - but its tricky. However I managed it and now I use Ffox and bookmark to go straight to the old site - and then managed to post my pix OK.

Is seems nothing has improved since then - because its the same for me today. I will find time to call them.

This might not be the problem you have, nor the cure, but HTH.

I see you had no problem with the Frantic pix on the 9th, but ASW used imageshack.

Anyone else ?

LFH

[one11]

New site does not work for AOL users - just freezes including the link to the old PB.

Works Ok using Chrome but their new upload system seems to require Windows 7, 8 or Vista - not XP

[nvubu]

I was using the new site fine until today's attempt. I'm using Windows 7 & IE9 lots or javascript errors

Well that was painful - I've connected via XPMode & IE8, stepping through the Javascript errors :ugh:

Here's the first image I've uploaded, where is this?

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121118A.jpg

I've now managed to get connected and see things in Win7/IE9.

Tools/Internet Options
Uncheck "Disable script debugging (internet Explorer)

OK

Load photobucket,
When the WebPage error comes up, debug with built in script debugger
Press F5 each time it halts - about 6 times for the front page.

be careful with the F5, once too many, and it'll re-load the page:ugh:

[nvubu]

Here's a few other photos of the same aerodrome from different viewpoints.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121118B.jpg

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121118C.jpg

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121118D.jpg

[asw22]

I know of at least one aerodrome in France which was made unusable in the same way (quite a famous one) but this not it...
This one has fixed heavy installations which are from before the war. I suspect (considering hangar type) a German airfield...And yet that would be the first time I see a deliberately abandoned and condemned such airfield in Germany...It could be then a Dutch one but most of the main still used Dutch bases in 44/45 had concrete runways...
I am dumbfounded!

[nvubu]

It is in Germany

[nvubu]

Southern half

It goes by a few different names. It has an ICAO code, is purely military, but not for much longer.

[evansb]

Lechfeld, Bavaria ?

[nvubu]

It's certainly in Bavaria, but you are too far south.

[nvubu]

I've just found this plan of the aerodrome from 1943 - hope this helps

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121118E.jpg

[Lordflasheart]

Bavaria eh ? If the road south leads to Weissenburg-in-Bayern, the road north must lead to .... Roth ?

(tricky - not really convinced yet) LFH

[nvubu]

LFH - Well done

Roth (ETHR) / Otto Lilienthal Barracks it is.

Over to you.

[Lordflasheart]

Thank you Hippo. Roth/Bavaria/Germany. I wouldn't have got it without the Bavaria clue or the the smudged signpost on the plan drawing.

Op Frantic - what a story.

Here's the next - not a great pic - bit low on stock. LFH


http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/LFH99/LFHWAD017.jpg

[chevvron]

Elvington?

[Lordflasheart]

Not Elvington (Near York, England) Not with all them thar' lakes, Chevy. Not England.

[Lordflasheart]

Time for a clue ?

Europe - ex-military "regional" airport RW 16/34 - LFH

[dixi188]

Northern Europe perhaps?
Sweden has lots of N/S runways.

[Lordflasheart]

It's more like mittel Europa Dixi - with a touch of east. There's a couple of rusty migs loafing on GE. LFH

[chevvron]

Poland maybe?

[Lordflasheart]

Otepluje. Česká republika, soudruhu Chevvron. LFH

[Capot]

Hradec Králové Airport, soudruhu Lordflasheart?

[Lordflasheart]

Správně, soudruhu Capot. Hradec Králové Airport Čechy, Česká republika.
Máte kontrolu.

Hradec Kralove Airport, East Bohemia, Czech Republic

One of the oldest settlements in the Czech Republic - Hradec (the Castle) Králové (of the queen) named for Elizabeth Richeza of Poland, 1286–1335, one time a wife of King Wenceslaus II.

Sorry about the undistinguished photo - one of those panorama snappers that make it look like looking thru a letter-box.

Capot has control. LFH

[Capot]

Thank you, LFH.

I've only got a rather easy one; been done before,
I think, but as a later incarnation....

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/picshooter/WhichAirport1.jpg

[merlinxx]

Rotterdam ?

[Capot]

Right continent........wrong country.

[Capot]

A clue to keep things moving......the home team's flag is flying...

[chevvron]

Juventus? (Torino)

[Capot]

Sorry, not Juventus..

Photo was taken in the '60's; the airfield was in use for scheduled flights then and in the '70s, although this baffled many people....maybe later than that but I don't know.

[Capot]

Hmmm...I thought it would go quickly. If you found the 2 clues so far baffling, you could try a casino gamble at the name.....

[merlinxx]

It's Stars n Stripes that's getting me. More delving, I like this game, and I don't historical data bases.

[one11]

Ostend - Middelkerke ??

[Capot]

Not Ostende, but not all that far away....

A converted DC4 was written off there, in a baffling accident.....

[merlinxx]

Well G-ARSF written off at EHRD/RTM & G-APNH written off at LFAT/LTQ so has got to be one or the other, but the tower could be Le Touquet, but can't see the railway lines:{

[Capot]

Merlinxx has it; it's Le Touquet; the pic is a postcard I sent in 1967 after an involuntary and totally unqualified night landing there, resulting from awful flight planning. They gave me an SRA (or similar) with enormous charm and encouragement. "Rien de quoi, Monsieur", they said afterwards.

I thought that "baffling" would be a clue!

Merlinxx has control.

[merlinxx]

Open House. Le Touquet, 1955 with parents on a Morton's jolly ex Croydon. Then later when with BUA on our Silver Arrow, just loved getting of the Viscount/1-11 straight on to the train. Many happy lunches at the airport restaurant :E:ok:

[merlinxx]

were you on "NH" hotel then ?

[Capot]

Merlinxx; no, I had flown a light a/c across the Channel, as a fairly recent PPL, and got the sunset time wrong!

[cuefaye]

OH, so here goes ---

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a628/harrymate/grul.jpg

[zetec2]

That looks like Bhutan, if not very similiar.

In the unlikely event would have to advise OH, Paul H.

[cuefaye]

Sorry zetec, not Bhutan - a different continent

[cuefaye]

Another view ----

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a628/harrymate/grul2.jpg

[englishkev]

Glenwood Springs, Colorado ?

[cuefaye]

Spot on Kev - YHC

(God's own - that'll be Lancashire then!)

[englishkev]

No ours is the pure white rose haha. Wonderful airfield especially the drive from Vail. Worth the visit for the friendly owner who insisted on opening up his hanger to show us his Broussard.
I digress not 100% sure on uploading pictures so open house

Kev

[asw22]

OH? So here I come again with one of my photos from long ago...

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3047/pprune4.jpg

I am a nice guy so I will give you a clue right away: same series as the others photos I have shown so far...But you would need to be lucky (or steel eyed) to find it using Google...;)

[cuefaye]

Not Again!?

[nvubu]

Montdidier?

[asw22]

Not Montdidier...Like some of you may have guess this a Battle of Britain airfield, German side...those are an enormous lot less known than their UK counterparts...Its name will certainly ring a bell when I give it like the others before it (and the next ones he he he)...

It is in the vicinity of Calais (like two dozens of like fields) and if you give a name try to assess it on Google Earth; it is perfectly possible but a lot less easy than Peuplingues for instance...the reason is a kind of optical illusion...please give this reason too...:)

[nvubu]

Near Calais... How about Guines?

[Stuart Sutcliffe]

Up near the top left there looks to be a horse racing track, so I thought it might be St Omer Longuenesse, but I can't get it to match Google Earth. Ho hum. :hmm:

[asw22]

Guînes is on the edge of a forest. Not the case here. But I commiserate with you: it is quite significantly closer to Calais (I could add it is close to old "Nationale 1"...but that would be telling...)

[nvubu]

Well then, I'll have to try Coquelles as this is closer to Calais.

[asw22]

Aaaah! Enfin!

And what is the "optical illusion" which makes it so hard to find nowadays?

In any case the next game is yours...:p

[nvubu]

You'll have to tell us.

Open House this time around

[Noyade]

Couldn't see this on Mel's list...

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3536/isthatanairshipinthebac.jpg

[merlinxx]

It's a big shed with an airship :confused: Can't be Lakehurst, there's no rain, maybe could be :confused:

[albatross]

St.Hubert QC Canada - Open house if correct.
Please post the full photo if so.

[Noyade]

St.Hubert QC CanadaHoly **** that went quick!

Open house again.

[Noyade]

Please post the full photo if so.

It is the whole photo. I thought of cropping out the aircraft and the registrations, but obviously it made no difference. Well done mate. :ok:

[nvubu]

Here's a nice easy one for a very cold 1st December

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20121201A1.jpg

[Duckbutt]

Mr Nvubu, will the one who gets this get a slab of cured pork as a prize?

[nvubu]

I guess you are talking about some 12th century priest?

On further research into your answer, did you mean a flitch of bacon?

[Duckbutt]

After consulting with my wife (who I NEVER argue with), I can admit that I did!

[CharlieOneSix]

Great Dunmow? OH if correct. I never get any of these but with relatives in the town the flitch of bacon was a great clue!

[nvubu]

If only CharlieOneSix hadn't answered, we were going to get an airfield answered correctly without the name being mentioned! :ok:

Open House

Thanks DB, we almost did it:D

[Duckbutt]

Don't take it to heart Charlie, it was just a little game Nvubu and me were playing hoping to lead to a bit of mild p**s taking of another regular.

As OH has been declared I'll post this one:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz83.jpg

[CharlieOneSix]

Sorry to spoil the fun guys! Your ploy had gone over my head.

[nvubu]

The things you learn on this site :ok:

Dunmow Flitch Trials - Come and Claim the Bacon! (http://www.dunmowflitchtrials.co.uk/)

[Stuart Sutcliffe]

Okay, I am asking the question - "... what is the "optical illusion" which makes it so hard to find nowadays?"

[asw22]

Here is Coquelles today:

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4570/coquelles2012.jpg

As you can see you have here the biggest (and the most English) "Carrefour" shopping center in North of France together with the Shuttle (under-the-Channel train to London) marshalling and docking yards...
They are covering so neatly the area of former Coquelles airfield that it is quite difficult to find it if you do not already know the place...the eyes are terribly attracted to these big features and this makes easy to miss the clues.

Strangely enough you still have remnants of former use of the place: two single fighter hangars lost in the vegetation of the small copse within what is now a Holiday Inn hotel garden (but was an old abbey before) straight down from the "Coquelles" marker in the Google extract west of the highway entrance; and a bit of the peripheral alley (easy to find by comparing with the 1943 photo).

I will show later a still more spectacular example of "optical illusion"...;)

Amically

JVM

[Duckbutt]

Going back to my challenge, the actual location of the airfield is the best part of 6,000 miles from city of the same name.

[TheChitterneFlyer]

Err... optical illusion? Don't tell the passengers who're waiting for the next train to London that this is only an optical illusion!

[Duckbutt]

Doesn't anybody 'cop' the aircraft type?

[cuefaye]

I think that radial engine, air-cooled, is a bit of a giveaway

[Duckbutt]

Two of those engines per airplane in picture.

[MReyn24050]

Doesn't anybody 'cop' the aircraft type?

Keystone B-4As perhaps?

[Duckbutt]

Certainly Keystone bombers, I do not know which model.

[Russell Gulch]

My apologies for bringing this thread back to "which aerodrome?" instead of "which aeroplane?" :suspect:

but in response to Duckbutt's challenge I suggest Rendcomb.

Russ.

[Duckbutt]

To my embarrassment I had to look up details of Rendcomb. As someone said before you need to go west young man (by about 7 - 8 hours in an airliner).

[chevvron]

Duckbutt: it's because Russell spelt it wrong; it's spelt 'Rendcombe'!!
7-8 hours west puts it either southern Canada or maybe in the Carolinas?

[Duckbutt]

Not the Carolinas but thats the general area.

[evansb]

Hebron Airport, Spring Hill, Maryland, U.S.A. ?

[albatross]

Any chance we are looking at Pennsylvania - Just a thought - more airports there than you can shake a stick at on GEarth.

You may well be correct EvansB

[Duckbutt]

EvansB has it, Hebron, Maryland. Keystone bombers and a tented camp of the Army Air Corps 59th Bomb Group in 1932.

[evansb]

Thank you. OPEN HOUSE

[Russell Gulch]

Since it's OH, Id thought Id offer this as the next challenge (sorry its a screen shot from giggle earth):

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/868mick/Capture22.png

[LXXIV]

Burtonwood?
If Correct, OH
LXXIV

[Russell Gulch]

No, not Burtonwood.

[Russell Gulch]

Time for a clue?
This disused strip lies just 3 mile east of a major international airport.

Russ.

[siftydog]

Portugal, more precisely, near Lisbon?

[Russell Gulch]

Hello siftydog,
Im sorry, not Portugal. Try a bit further west.

Edit, I wonder if you were thinking of Santa Cruz? Nice field with friendly folks.

[chevvron]

The baseball diamond would indicate an American influence; Bermuda or Azores?

[Russell Gulch]

The baseball diamond (and the slanted parking bays) would indeed suggest an American influence, but not the locations you propose, chevvron.

The "X" at the right of the runway indicates the close of the runway at the east, but it originally extended west passed the asphalt cross-road in the left (west) of the picture. Surface is and was un paved.

[popito]

Still is a paradaise.

[Russell Gulch]

popito You know it! Paradise indeed.

I bet that if siftydog looks close to home he would Boulder home with the answer, or even Hoover up the prize!

[evansb]

Former Voc-Tech Airport, Las Vegas, Nevada. I've been to Las Vegas and I don't consider it paradise. Fun, yes, but I found it too touristy and "a bit" phony. Also, the aerodrome is located more than "a bit" west of Portugal, unless of course by "a bit" you mean 5,452 miles. Anyway, thank you for a truly challenging mystery aerodrome. I enjoyed it.

[Gulfstreamaviator]

All the bays I can see are square on....

Also I can not see a X at either end of the dirt strip....

My IQ is in double figures, (JUST)......

glf

[Russell Gulch]

You are correct, evansb. YHC.

By Paradise I meant what is now a suburb of Las Vegas of that name, close by to this airfield.

Voc-Tech was operated by the Southern Nevada Vocational Technical Center.

Details (which I found after posting the original challenge) here (http://www.airfields-freeman.com/NV/Airfields_NV_LasVegas.html#voctech)

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/NV/VocTech_NV_73.jpg
(Image from airfields-freeman.com)

[evansb]

Ahh...Paradise, Las Vegas! ..sounds like a fantastic neighborhood! Count me out. In the mean time, here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/_WAD121008.jpg

Sorry, I've run out of historic & nostalgic aerodrome photos for the moment..

[flyingwing]

Hilo, Hawaii?

[evansb]

Sorry, not Hawaii. Not in the Pacific Ocean.

[dixi188]

Northern Europe?

[evansb]

Not northern Europe. Not Europe.

[cuefaye]

City --- ?? Where'd it go eb?

[evansb]

Yes, the airport pictured serves a city with a population of just over 500,000.
The city was originally settled by northern Europeans.

[merlinxx]

No runway direction marks, Scandic looking buildings, somewhere in the North East US ? Heck I don't know:ugh::{

[evansb]

Not in North America.

[Duckbutt]

South America then?

[TheChitterneFlyer]

New Zealand?

[evansb]

Yes, in South America.

[chevvron]

North Europeans = Vikings?

[descol]

Is it Assension island ? OH if correct !

[chevvron]

Then there's the Welsh, who colonised Tierra Del Fuego. Yes I know the Irish were in there too, but they were more Central America. (NB is 'Assension' Island anywhere near 'Ascension' Island?)

[evansb]

Clue time: It is located in Brasil.

[Airclues]

Aracaju, Sergipe, Brazil?

Open House if correct.

Dave

[Duckbutt]

Think I've found it (purely by luck wandering around GE - Brazil is a BIG place!):

Joinville, about 300 miles SW of Sao Paulo?

[evansb]

Duckbutt is correct. Joinville-Lauro Carneiro de Loyola Airport.
Joinville, Brazil, was originally settled by German, Swiss and Norwegian immigrants.

Your turn.

[Duckbutt]

Thanks. Try this one:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz84.jpg

[chevvron]

Old Rhienbeck USA?

[Duckbutt]

Chevvron, right country, right State but wrong field.

[chevvron]

You mean there's more than one grass airifeld in the state?

[Cubs2jets]

Bayport Aerodrome on lLong Island.

OH if correct.

C2j

[Duckbutt]

Bayport it is. OH declared.

[one11]

As its OH how about....
http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune141212_zpse2654282.jpg

[chevvron]

Sheffield City. (ie NOT Finningley) Sorry but this same photo appeared today on another forum.

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[one11]

Correct . In the news for all the wrong reasons
The former Sheffield City Airport is about to be redeveloped and its runway destroyed. The Federation of Small Businesses (FSB) is fighting to reverse that decision, gathering signatures to a petition that would force the city council to debate the issue - and the FSB is convinced that it has sufficient support amongst councillors to drive through the call for an independent review. In a new twist, a bidder for the airport has emerged, and he plans to kick-start GA at Sheffield.

Which may account for it being on another forum. You have control, Chevvron.

[chevvron]

Open House.

[flyingwing]

Not on list




http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/buzzbird/air-1.jpg

[Duckbutt]

There's a film clip often shown on programs about the era of airfield personnel watching a B29 flying very low just offshore and apparently about to ditch, this location and viewpoint appear very similar. However from memory I think that was at Tinian and as you say the field hasn't been posted before, that can't be it.

Is it a Pacific base in 1944 or 5 though?

[flyingwing]

Correct so far!

[500N]

Duckbutt

The video you refer to is the first plane shown on this clip.
Dramatic B-29 Crash Landings - YouTube

[Duckbutt]

Reduced to guessing now - Tarawa or Peleliu?

[Lightning Mate]

Possibly Iwo Jima.

[flyingwing]

Correct, Lightning Mate. Another of the islands captured at huge human expense in order to secure yet one more airstrip nearer Japan. You have control.

[Lightning Mate]

Apologies, but I'm busy trying to solve multiple challenges elsewhere.

OH please.

[cuefaye]

And there was I, thinking that Lightning drivers were multi-tasking chappies

[Lightning Mate]

Not at my age anymore. :\

[chevvron]

'One more airstrip'
The feature article in After the Battle listed about 7 airstrips on Iwo Jima

[flyingwing]

Indeed - as did several of the Pacific island 'toe-holds'. Apart from the hill (Suribachi) at one end of the island, the better part of the rest was devoted to aviation.

[asw22]

Hello! Since it is OH, here I come again with something a bit different (we will come back to my favorite area later don't worry:)):

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7634/pprune5.jpg

For now I will just say that's it is in France and that the Germans did not show any interest into it...yet someone did!

[Russell Gulch]

Two days on...I request a clue from asw22 (is there a "polite rule" on the time between posting and the rest of us getting bored? :uhoh:)

Russ.

[Noyade]

is there a "polite rule" on the time between posting and the rest of us getting bored?

I was always under the assumption it was 24 hrs? Same goes for the other ID threads.

[asw22]

Sorry I have been away for the last 36 hours...To my credit nobody having even posted an hypothesis I told myself everyone is busy with the end of the year preparations or just trying to escape the end of the world...or less interest if not Commonwealth related ;)?

As a clue I will say that this is still an airfield; actually, one of the most recent airports in Europe...As it may be too easy now please indicate the emplacement of this 1947 runway in the new entity...

I am stable again an I will follow the thread closely...

JV

[Noyade]

or less interest if not Commonwealth related http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wink2.gif?

I wouldn't even recognise my backyard from the air mate. :)

just trying to escape the end of the world...

I'm posting from the 21st - all looks good! (I even pushed my getaway spaceship back in the shed.)

[Flap40]

I'll start the guessing game with Charles de Gaulle.

Edit: Change that to Lyon Satolas/St Exupery. The pictured airfield is now under all the rubble to the SW corner.

[asw22]

Congratulations Flap40!

It is indeed Lyon-Satolas or more precisely Lyon-Saint-Exupéry. The photo was showing the still visible runway of ALG Y-34 which is now like properly indicated by Flap40 lying under other constructions and rubble in the SW corner of the airport footprint.
The Y-34 airfield saw use in Sept 1944 with the F5 Lightning of the 23rd Photo Reconnaissance Squadron and the F6 Mustang of the 111th Reconnaissance Squadron.

You have the helm Flap40!

[Flap40]

Thanks. By pure coincidence, I flew out of there on Wednesday.

Open House.

[evansb]

Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD121221.jpg

[chevvron]

USA possibly Navy?

[Lordflasheart]

How about Canada ? One of those many WWII BCATP training fields ? LFH

[evansb]

It is in Canada, but not a BCATP field. Those are Canadian-made Curtiss Jennys.
(Actually Canadian Aeroplanes Ltd. JN-4 Canucks).

[clunckdriver]

Camp Borden Ontario, Canada, {North of Toronto to save you looking} still in use, some of the hangers are now designated heritage buildings, if correct OH.

[evansb]

Not Borden, but same type of hangars.

[Duckbutt]

OK, after some delving using that info how about the now defunct Leaside airfield also in Toronto?

[evansb]

Yes, it is Leaside, Toronto, Ontario. :ok: Your turn.

[Duckbutt]

Thanks. Here's my next:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz85b.jpg

[chevvron]

Guessing Beauvais with the railway line.

[Duckbutt]

Sorry chevvron, not Beauvais

[chevvron]

Well duckbutt, looks like everyone's asleep apart from us; I'm sitting in the tower with only a couple of aircraft flying.

[Duckbutt]

Looks like you're right chevvron. Here's another pic from the same location for you to ponder:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz85.jpg

[evansb]

Zeebrugge, Belgium ?

[chevvron]

I'm no good at this era but the markings on the little flying boat look Italian, so Taranto?

[aerobelly]

It looks very cold in that first photo, so how about St. Petersberg?


'b

[Duckbutt]

Evansb has it, it's the German WW1 seaplane base on the mole at Zeebrugge.

Following the occupation of the Belgian coast, a seaplane base was established at Zeebrugge in December 1914. Aircraft were kept in the railway station hall at the end of the Mole, fully assembled on specially constructed flat railway cars which carried tools, fabric, dope, etc for minor repairs, as well as supplies of water, fuel and oil. Locomotives were kept with steam up and were always available to pull the trains out on to the Mole and up to the cranes used to lift and lower the seaplanes to the water. In this early 1915 scene no national insignia are displayed on the upper wing surfaces of these Friedrichshafen FF29 seaplanes or the Oertz flying-boat numbered 46, but wing undersurfaces were marked spanwise with the straight-sided cross, as seen on the Oertz's rudder.

The first pic shows a Bleriot landing on the mole. This machine was captured from the Belgian forces and used for a while by the Germans. It's engine was later transplanted into a Fokker aircraft.

Over to what I suspect is a slightly nippy Lethbridge!

[evansb]

Yes t'was cold last few nights, -24C, but presently have light Chinook winds giving rise to a balmy -3C. (Temp will change more degrees here in 12-hours than any point in Great Britain in 365 days). Here is the next mystery aerodrome:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD121228.jpg

[LFT]

Paris Le Bourget?

[evansb]

Not Paris, but right country.

[evansb]

Here is another huge clue: It is south of Paris.

[Duckbutt]

Just wild speculation here - flat, verdant area so perhaps not too far south. We've just had Lyons so probably won't be there but how about Burgundy somewhere?

[TheChitterneFlyer]

Orleans - Bricy Air Base?

[evansb]

It is Lyon-Bron, (LFLY), in the late 1930s, 6 mi. east of Lyons. I'll give Duckbutt control.

[Duckbutt]

Thanks, I'm not sure I deserve it with that vague answer though!

As a result I've had to do some scrabbling around and managed to come up with this:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz86.jpg

[Duckbutt]

You should at least be able to get a good cup of tea at this airfield!

[Capot]

Using your clue, wild guesswork and hazy recollection, now operating as Rowriah Airport, Assam?

[Duckbutt]

Yes Mr Capot, that's the one - Rowriah or Jorhat airport, Assam.

[Capot]

Oh dear, I wasn't really expecting that!

I'll declare OH, so that if anyone can get something up before I can find, scan and upload a pic, it's all yours.

[TheiC]

This may allow us to see the New Year in (for those east of us who haven't already)...

Happy New Year!

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/4541/mystery1.jpg

[Cows getting bigger]

Beverley. OH, if correct.

[TheiC]

Beverley it is...

OPEN HOUSE is declared again.

[India Four Two]

Happy New Year to all.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/3954AD28-E5D7-41C1-B248-5E62BB46E564-1055-000001E85BF60ABC.jpg

Clue, not that it should be needed. I'm spending New Year's Day just down the road. ;)

[merlinxx]

Seaboard World & somewhere in South East Asia :ugh::ugh:

[India Four Two]

Yes and yes! The DC 8 is a clue.

[LXXIV]

Tan Son Nhut (Saigon)
OH if correct
LXXIV

[Cubs2jets]

Marble Mountain, near Da Nang Vietnam. 3300ft (1000m) runway length. Landed by mistake in the middle of the night. Flown out next day after off load and de-fuel.
WingsOverAsia Social Network - ???? - View Video - Seaboard World DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain Vietnam (http://www.wingsoverasia.com/videos/1/53/seaboard-world-dc-8-lands-at-mar)

Open House

C2j

[India Four Two]

No doubt there, C2j.

The video is an 8mm colour film of the DC 8's departure, narrated by the person who shot it.

The normal traffic there was helicopters and Mohawks.

Open house.

[norwich]

Firstly A Happy New Year to all ! Well I havn't done this for years ! I am not up to speed with the new rules, so if it doesn't finish very quickly (as most of my past attempts did) please shout at me ??
I cannot find this place within Mels supurb listing ......

Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/DSC_1014.jpg

[NATOPotato]

Landsberg am Lech, Bavaria?

NP

[norwich]

Hi NP looks cold enough but not Bavaria !

Keith.

[dash7fan]

Zweibrücken, Germany?

[norwich]

dash7fan, sorry for the delay, manic day at work ! Not Zweibrucken, but yes to Germany ??

Keith.

[norwich]

Well I realy thought this would have been 'history' by now ? So time for a clue or two .... we have had two very good suggestions, both from Germany, which is good .... one was, as the crow flies, 70 miles distant and the other was 145 miles distant, but still within Germany ??
This aerodrome has a strong connection with two very historic aviation manufacturers past and present ??

Keith :)

[Wanderin_dave]

Friedrichshafen?

OH if correct as I can't attend to Prrune as much as required.

[norwich]

Wanderin dave is correct it is Friedrichshafen ! Photo taken from a coach tour on a recent visit.
Open house is declared,

Keith :)

[Noyade]

Clues on the roof....

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9350/clueontheroof.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/clueontheroof.jpg/)

[India Four Two]

A very old shot of Vero Beach.

[Noyade]

Well done mate. From 1961.

Your control. :ok:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8559/img627.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/img627.jpg/)

[India Four Two]

Thanks.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WAD-13-01-04_zpseec48fe0.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Famous photograph.

Southern Cross Fokker Trimotor in Australia. ;)

[India Four Two]

LM,

Yes, Kingsford Smith (sitting) and his Trimotor, but Australia is a Big Country. ;)

What Aerodrome?

[Lightning Mate]

Toowoomba.

[India Four Two]

Sir Charles Kingsford-Smith (seated) received a lively welcome when he and his Southern Cross Fokker Trimotor touched down on Toowoomba on August 5, 1932.

I love the "jodhpur" flying suits :)

LM has control

[Lightning Mate]

I would like you to accept an open house.

[nvubu]

As this thread has gone to sleep, here's one to wake it up.

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20130108A_1_zps7d471279.jpg

[nvubu]

And here are a few more images of the same location

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20130108B_1_zps90d8d57c.jpg

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20130108C_1_zps73aa785e.jpg

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20130108D_1_zps63025ce2.jpg

[chevvron]

Somewhere like Iwo Jima?

[nvubu]

I'd have to say no, not anywhere like Iwo Jima - although right theatre.

[Lightning Mate]

Adak ?.....

[nvubu]

Right chain of islends, wrong island though.

This event took place on the island

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z474/nvubu/PPRuNe/20130108E_1_zps16553491.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Well, a USAF photo lists the P40 as 11th Fighter Squadron, 343rd Fighter Group.

Perhaps it's Kiska.

[nvubu]

Whoops, wrong hemispehere :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

WTFO?

When I suggested Adak you said it was the right chain of islands..

I therefore assumed the Aleutians.

Are you now telling me it's the far east?

[Lightning Mate]

Photo Description:
A left side view 5x7 photo of a United States Army Air Force



Curtiss P-40E Warhawk aircraft assigned to the 11th Fighter Squadron 343rd
Fighter Group undergoing maintenance at an airfield somewhere in the Aleutian
Islands. This P-40 Warhawk known as one of the Aleutian Tigers sometimes Bengal
Tigers is wearing a variation of the Flying Tigers nose art made famous by
General Claire Chennault's AVG in the CBI war theater. His son Major John "Jack"
Chennault was the original commander of the 11th Fighter Squadron.



............

Photo Credit: USGovPhoto Date: ca 1942Photo Location: Aleutian Islands, AlaskaPhoto ID: 57-P401010

[nvubu]

Definately the Aleutians.

Alaska is the most Easterly AND Westerly AND Northern state in the US.

[Lightning Mate]

All I can say is that one US aviation historian places the aircraft at Adak, so it's down to the reliability of sources.

Yours might well have it as Fort Glenn.

I shall now watch to see what anyone else comes up with.

[descol]

My research suggests that the 54th fighter squadron P-38s - at Adak - not sure if this hepls !
rgds Descol

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/54thFighterSquadronP-38sAdak_zps557b7b41.jpg