Which Aerodrome Mk III

[India Four Two]

You may suggest it, and I would agree with you! ;-)

Here are two pictures I took on my last visit to Manila. The first one was taken at the intersection of the two runways, looking southeast down the shorter runway (Roxas Boulevard). The statue on the right is a memorial to Ninoy Aquino.

The second one is the lovely Art Deco terminal, which somehow managed to survive the bombing. It is highlighted on the reconnaissance photo as the Operations Office.

The other airfield near the coast of Manila Bay is the current Manila International Airport. The "island" at the top of the picture is the Cavite peninsula, which used to be a US naval base and airfield.

Sultan Ismail has the con.

[Sultan Ismail]

Open House.

The Art Deco Terminal now houses a Fine Dining restaurant.

Sadly they have covered the "Apron" with a tin roof to provide more seating. Need to be creative to get the right picture.

I recommend their signature cocktail "Aviation", it's a knockout.

[India Four Two]

I'll have to try it next time I'm there. I was aware that there had been some changes. When I was last there, the terminal housed The Filipinas Library, but I see that has moved to the nearby Ayala Museum.

Is the Ayala Triangle Park still there or has the Ayala Corporation succumbed to greed and built on the site?

[Sultan Ismail]

The Park is no longer a triangle, the apex is being developed, however it is still a green lung for the CBD.
Incidentally the Restaurant is called Blackbird, a quick glance at the satellite view will explain why.
I will be dining there next Sunday, it's the young ladies birthday.
Have a great weekend folks.

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture783-2017-10-03-185508.jpg

Its a lot bigger than it appears here..............

[India Four Two]

Mainland Europe?

[Heathrow Harry]

Yes - and near the sea side as well

[chevvron]

Amsterdam?

[Heathrow Harry]

not too far away

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture782-2017-10-06-143745.jpg

[kcockayne]

Rotterdam ?

[Heathrow Harry]

A bit further away than that!!

[Background Noise]

Ostend - or Oostende?

[Heathrow Harry]

Well done that man!!!

I was amzed to see it handles DC-10 and AN-124's..............

Over to you

[Background Noise]

Thanks - the best I can manage right now:

https://s1.postimg.org/3mcsoq6667/Screen_Shot_2017-10-08_at_12.14.25.jpg

[Heathrow Harry]

New Zealand?

[Kieron Kirk]

Perhaps a bit nearer to Europe, Spain?

Kieron.

[Background Noise]

Europe yes, but not Spain.

[chevvron]

Somewhere on Sardinia?

[Background Noise]

Sorry - should have said mainland Europe.

[jensdad]

Those look like Italian markings on the hulks in the foreground left. Italian Alps I reckon. I'm going for Aosta. Even though I'm not even sure there is an airfield there :)

[Heathrow Harry]

Aosta LIMW?

Open House if correct

[Heathrow Harry]

Bugger - Jensdad beat me by 15 seconds..................

[Background Noise]

Aosta it is - I guess jensdad has it.

[jensdad]

I recognised the landscape as I passed through Aosta on the train a few years back. Had no idea there was an airfield there! Is that an old Italian Air Force C-54 lying there in bits?


Open House (or should I say 'Casa Aperta' / 'Maison Ouverte'?)

[chevvron]

Those look like Italian markings on the hulks in the foreground left.

That and the terrain is what led me to guess Sardinia. Admittedly it's more like Corsica but that comes under French 'rule' (until they have THEIR referendum 'cos they hate the French)

[India Four Two]

Nowhere near Italy. I've paxed out of here twice and landed once.

[jensdad]

As it's you, I42, I'm gonna say Canada? I appreciate that, if correct, that doesn't narrow it down a great deal :)

[India Four Two]

Aha, got you! Hook, line and sinker. :E

Contrary to popular belief, it does snow south of the 49th parallel.

[Heathrow Harry]

Indeed but look at the neat snow clearance - footpaths, roads etc etc - so somewhere that gets a lot of snow often and is totally set up for it.

Pretty flat so maybe Wisconsin - ish....................

[India Four Two]

Yes, they’re certainly setup for snow, but it’s not Wisconsin. Much further south.

[Harry Wayfarers]

Seems like a few helipads snow cleared for use so somewhere that choppers frequent

[spook]

That Longranger looks familiar - so KGCN?

[jensdad]

Well, I was in the right hemisphere at least!! :)

[India Four Two]

jensdad,

Sorry about that. The snow was a deliberate "white herring". ;)

Grand Canyon Airport, 4 nm south of the canyon, 9000' runway and 6609' ASL. That would be a QFE of about 800 mb, if you could wind your altimeter back that far!

A very busy place, with helicopters and fixed-wing tourist flights.

I took a flight in an EC-130T2. Even though I have quite a bit of mountain flying experience, I found it quite disconcerting to go from a few hundred feet AGL to over 5000' in a few seconds! See 3:00 in this video:

_GIZiOCjrAQ

I also took a Caravan flight over the canyon to Page and then a raft trip from the Glen Canyon dam to Lee's Ferry.
Grand Canyon is definitely a bucket list item.


spook has control.

[jensdad]

Very good challenge, I42. jensgrandma has been to the Grand Canyon, and in fact possibly to that airfield I believe, but her son hasn't made it yet. As you say, definitely on the bucket list!

[Russell Gulch]

...Lee's Ferry..

I landed at Marble Canyon earlier this year (it's a stone's throw from Lee's Ferry). It's a lovely part of the world. The Glen Canyon Dam tour near Page is well worth doing. Russ.

[spook]

Thanks I42, It will have to be OH.

[WIDN62]

Another snowy scene:

3333

[zetec2]

Why the kink in the road ? in the lead in to the threshold,

[WIDN62]

Perhaps the snowplough driver sneezed!

[WIDN62]

As nobody has had a go, a clue might be "Bolero".

[jensdad]

As in Torvill & Dean doing their stuff to Ravel's Bolero at Sarajevo?

[WIDN62]

Yes indeed - you have control.

[jensdad]

Thanks, WIDN62. Good clue, I would never have got it without that. I did think the surrounding buildings looked like they could be in the Balkans, but the airfield and the runway itself look pretty small - must just be an optical illusion with the poor visibility and snow.


Still can't get the hang of uploading photos - Browser issues I think - so OPEN HOUSE.

[mgahan]

Plenty of strips in the Pacific ....

[Heathrow Harry]

Tuvalu FunaFuti?

[kcockayne]

Desroches, Seychelles ?

[Russell Gulch]

Looks lovely, I could be there tomorow with a Beaver or Twotter and relax.

<sigh> :)

Russ

[Heathrow Harry]

these places look lovely but they tend to be laking in basic necessities

[Russell Gulch]

I could take them with me, and I have done althought on the other side of the Indian Ocean.

Sorry for the thred drift.
Russ

[descol]

Butaritari

[mgahan]

Harry and descol are in the correct ocean, with Harry on the correct side of the equator.

Was there three weeks ago and the basic necessities seem to be covered.

Accom was a bit basic - but not the worst I've been in during an airport inspection.

MJG

[descol]

If Harry is the right side of the equator - then it has to be one of the many southern Gilbert islands
- I 'll guess Beru !

[mgahan]

Getting closer but still a lot of Pacific Ocean to cover. I included the additional picture of the building to help narrow down the search.

MJG

[SMOKEON]

Tabiteuea North Airport, Kiribati ?

[mgahan]

Tab North it is - well done.

Recently "improved" in anticipation of the Air Kiribati Dash 8 arriving.

MJG

[SMOKEON]

Thank you,mgahan.
Open House.

[India Four Two]

Here's an interesting one.

[Heathrow Harry]

Hornet - Japanese POW's........ 1945 Malaya?

[oldpax]

Kuala Lumpa.

[sycamore]

Def Mossies,wrong prop and rotation(4 blader,stbd rotates c/w on Hornet)...
perhaps Butterworth..?

[India Four Two]

Morning all. I see lots of activity while I’ve been sleeping.

Mosquitos and a Dakota lurking in the background. Japanese POW labour. Not an island and not Malaya.

[India Four Two]

Well done JENKINS. :D A little known piece of post-WWII history. I got the photo from here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Vietnam_(1945–46)

The caption reads:
Japanese POW's under British supervision repairing the taxiing strip at Saigon airfield, with behind them RAF de Havilland Mosquito aircraft, December 1945

Probably Tan Son Nhut, although it might be Bien Hoa.

JENKINS has control.

[Russell Gulch]

Very smartly edited, I42 !!!!

:)

[India Four Two]

JENKINS,

They were there during the dry season (October-April), so they probably were OK.

A little research suggests that the Mossies are PR 34s of 684 Squadron:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._684_Squadron_RAF

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture786-2017-10-21-125825.jpg

[chevvron]

Grantley Adams?

[Heathrow Harry]

no but in the Americas

[kcockayne]

Is it Antigua ?

[Heathrow Harry]

Is it Antigua ?

not on an island................

[chevvron]

The tower looks similar to that at Burbank which I saw on 'NCIS Los Angeles' recently.

[Heathrow Harry]

'Merican is not the national language

[chevvron]

How 'bout Cancun?

[Heathrow Harry]

too far north

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture785-2017-10-21-125907.jpg

[paulc]

Brasilia ?

[Heathrow Harry]

correct country


http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture789-2017-10-23-081328.jpg

[India Four Two]

Correct first letter as well?

[Heathrow Harry]

B not C.............

[albatross]

Belem? OH if correct.

[Heathrow Harry]

Belem? OH if correct.

Rums are on Albatross!!!!

Belem it is.............. quite a big airport TBH

I think it's Open House..........................

[albatross]

Open House it is! Was only in Belem once a few years ago. Ferry trip from the US to Cabo Frio. 22 fuel stops...S-92 helicopter.

[India Four Two]

I flew from here once, on a sightseeing flight with an instructor.

[Heathrow Harry]

Canada - but it's a biggggggggggg country.................

[kcockayne]

Looks like a bumpy ground roll !

[Heathrow Harry]

east -westish runway ?

N of Calgary??

Thought it might be Wolf lake but it isn't

[India Four Two]

No mangroves in Canada, last time I checked! ;)

East-westish is correct.

[Dora-9]

Noosa?

Being in my neighborhood, you must have known I'd jump on this one, I42.

[India Four Two]

Local knowledge wins every time!

Dora-9 has control

[Dora-9]

Sorry, nothing at hand so Open House.

[Mark 1]

This one's Google-proof! Taken 3 years ago.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/q11uABeuzL40SZ-PgRfXgXUfrFLnsGWPZVjYcfjQBjKrVvjX12pAiYnHuoy2LY3U90u5DR8LOv-p9x5A9u9Rhnj6C15FQ7aV6mVFkUcj_jkvxtrZgq0dLVDd17P2KWmsGYS8rmy x9PS-52U4NWC4tHG9epScaPFwbj0woe_Oky4q36dwLNU1NA8p8j6w6T6kt-pPErMSKFECx6bQnqSiNsXzKhtknEeKD6facWsUNSQuQWIIcYAZXCFUDZz7Xs Bv8dJlP9GJCt6x9uYSrAb6MVqbjE64MwAwL7l7ac009aadkSNL6B0q4avDlf EGxYmHSVRkQDFiQRUJ750_pJAnaPo4iJO8kZLU3_IMcHSfWeL1uSYuUd1ai9 _1tlIMs0HGh5VluXfwFJCdq28zX2eqnUSLeEesoUXEqEL9J33jIoYNLg71ED BMW2OgF0R8zEgI_F6sr-sf2etWInnC8Ah5-rv1qgeHIdpcgOVT_g-lwetHLifj8LyJhkpJIHucxlnmGuoiC1TpG2xf1knYOTeoMcX2NEgqbbbZK75 4dURVqG-gqayGZVQcu35BrQ0N7lgIsIOiPGUhIaIdAqSdmRN_FzGPAsZrKZdrJfRyjUh CJPEHLBMZMBbUQJrok0eDImCGGsFv1k6r9mxrusgsJky_3RAJAiMVEryuTq3 L=w1000-no

[chimbu warrior]

Looks to be prune-proof as well; I can't see anything.

[Mark 1]

Sorry. Google photos keeps changing the link. Does it work now?

[Heathrow Harry]

Yes.... N america???

[Mark 1]

Yes.... N america???
Yes - right continent!

[chevvron]

Tombstone?

[Mark 1]

Tombstone?
Not Tombstone

Airfield has no services, lights etc. Just a runway and parking ramp with about 10 tie-down spots - that's it!

[India Four Two]

Possibly West Texas?

[Mark 1]

Possibly West Texas?

No. West of Texas.

[Heathrow Harry]

N New Mexico?

[Mark 1]

N New Mexico?
Not NM either, but drifting in the right direction.

[Mark 1]

A little clue:
There is a fork of a river in the bottom RH corner of the picture. That river doesn't flow into the ocean.

[India Four Two]

Somewhere in the Great Salt Lake watershed? Jordan River?

[Mark 1]

Somewhere in the Great Salt Lake watershed? Jordan River?

No. But getting closer

[India Four Two]

Are you referring to the Colorado, which no longer makes it to the sea?

[Mark 1]

Are you referring to the Colorado, which no longer makes it to the sea?
Not the Colorado.

[India Four Two]

I did some research. I had no idea there were so many endorheic basins in the Southwest and I’m a geologist!

Let’s narrow down the State first. Is it Arizona?

[Mark 1]

Is it Arizona?

Not Arizona. But an area once exploited for its lode.

[Heathrow Harry]

Jeez - never realised how many smal strips there are up in the high desert/mountain country round there.........................

[Russell Gulch]

I'd suggest Utah, but I won't. I think it's Idaho.

Russ

[India Four Two]

I'll suggest Colorado.

[chevvron]

Area 51 (it's not really there)

[Mark 1]

Not Idaho or Colorado.
Just behind the mountain to the North there's a well known ski and casino resort.

[India Four Two]

I looked south of Reno and Carson City, found Indian Creek Reservoir, which matched the lake, which lead me to Alpine County Airport, KM45. Which I have just noticed is across the state line, in California.

OH if correct.

[Mark 1]

Alpine County it is. Nice little hiking and camping spot, occasionally used by fire fighters.

[India Four Two]

Great challenge.

I’m traveling for the next two days, so Open House.

[Background Noise]

Have we had this one?

https://s1.postimg.org/1a61wtw87j/IMG_0457.jpg

[India Four Two]

“Hoskins, be prepared for downdrafts near the threshold!” :E

[Capot]

Reminds me of Sayq long ago, but I don't recall 3 runways!

[Background Noise]

Wrong continent.

[India Four Two]

Are we still in the USA?

[Background Noise]

Indeed we are

[Mark 1]

Grand Gulch Mine AZ?

[Background Noise]

Not Grand Gulch - but very close

[nvubu]

Pearce Ferry ?

[Background Noise]

Correct nvubu. Here is the full frame which rather gives away the general location.

https://s1.postimg.org/6xr1xij5jj/IMG_0457.jpg

We were told by our elderly helicopter pilot that the airfield had been used by the Navy for training because it was similar to a carrier deck, being on the edge of the escarpment, but I can't find anything about that on the web so I don't know how true that is.

[nvubu]

I'll have to throw it open for now as I don't haven anything to hand.

[nvubu]

As no-one has posted one. Here's the next mystery aerodrome.
https://3qvama.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4m39HRc-MEaOKUXfYYg8F-oYwmqSDGUmoPMND8sPsW1OFusthOHxIe0hnTworohJ_vwbPYwICDByXhDlTx DFXG96HcdKcM8IOjjiXDGVBEWZsTnnmcvzK40OStsozTjp9SiOiM-vDg9hE-Oyk6Dwo3eirjRdfMy0yMvab0irQDAD7HoiOOop6vNIhrp5Tws3YwkU7WFwwe 8nc0kBu3RbcYig?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none

[chevvron]

One of the several strips on Guadalcanal?

[nvubu]

Right ocean :ok: - wrong island :sad:

[chevvron]

Right ocean :ok: - wrong island :sad:
With the mountain, maybe Iwo Jima?

[nvubu]

Not Iwo Jima - too far west.

[Heathrow Harry]

New Caledonia?

[nvubu]

Not New Caledonia - still too far West, and also too far south.


It is by the seaside :ok:

[SMOKEON]

Dillingham Airfield, HI. ?

[nvubu]

SMOKEON has it - known as Mokuleia Army Airfield when the picture was taken.


You have control.

[SMOKEON]

Thank you,nvubu.
Open House.

[nvubu]

All gone a bit quiet, so here's another one from me.
https://yulalg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4morcXTaRMKvtk7Q-71mQ1F2PkNRXsWlz7VWDJVQ4Bvkkr8QnnUghTLzJk-fq3Pnqq5KIt9GMVo7wQxK7RS8-rzmf08OVPuXc89xASgFyCsJIerRdjw2Ng_XP6EKcpum-NfqO2-qRkDpwwr5cdsNbSUm57n5_BZEWuDm8BwWvwaX8ZayU9PobPFzRXMmZKhfFnr 8gypGRYS9vRQ_bUIhj3Gw?width=1024&height=779&cropmode=none


This airfield has been photobucketed before - so all the images have disappeared.

[India Four Two]

QANTAS V jet, Air France stairs, troops disembarking.

Where I am right now? Tan Son Nhat?

[nvubu]

That's the one, didn't think it would last long, and thought you'd get it.

[India Four Two]

Thanks nvubu.

It’s pushing 2300 local, the beer is flowing and the locals are friendly, so open house. ;)

[nvubu]

Let's see if this one lasts any longer
https://3qvhma.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4mP7oPZh45Xu_pFBRT7tP7wLb-gy28l9U0GzFMMPtopEwbfmI3VHiCnUUhMA0qiDLiez3BuujXY28wdO5488lD H1QwQQcyuwW3xybl4B0b8tzRKa8k820SksVQTOa7QZJ3pYevvmT9X-aOVBCMffM35wDfliDxrMG1RWrfWp8q6qEayxWGXvQ7MZ35ilyAqL8uz-kcneGGDM51VXlnAMTKNA?width=1024&height=800&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

Possibly a “Lima site”?

[nvubu]

Had to look up "Lima" site. It isn't in Laos and it doesn't appear on this (http://www.angelfire.com/home/laoslist/limasitelistweb.html) list

[India Four Two]

I’m not surprised you had to look it up. The Lima sites were secret! :cool:

A visit to Long Tieng (LS20A) is on my bucket list.

Is your mystery aerodrome a bit further east?

[nvubu]

Quite a bit further east, in the south as well.

[Heathrow Harry]

Borneo/Kalimantan??

[nvubu]

Not Borneo/Kalimantan. I42 is on the right track. South Vietnam.

[Heathrow Harry]

- but he kno ws that part of the world like the back of his hand........... unfair! Unfair!!

[nvubu]

Ah, but I foxed him with Quy Nhon/Qui Nhon last month.

I thought I knew a lot about airfields in Vietnam, but this was a complete surprise. A major airfield completely enveloped by a city.
Although to be fair, this one is still recognisable from the air.

[India Four Two]

Quite a bit further east, in the south as well.

Ah, the vagaries of the English language. By “a bit further east” I meant Vietnam and so I was also mislead by “Quite a bit ...”. ;)

Caution - thread drift.

No research today for me, as I’m visiting Yangon for the first time. A friend is showing me around and our first stop, very appropriate given the date, is the Taukkyan War Cemetery - 6400 graves and 27000 names of soldiers with no known grave, listed on the Rangoon Memorial. Very thought provoking.

[nvubu]

I realised that when HH went for Borneo, so thought I'd better be a bit more specific ;)


More thread drift.


I went with my family to Arras earlier this year on the 100th anniversary of my Great Uncle's death. Very sobering.

[Heathrow Harry]

I helped lead a Local history Society tour to Ypres/Ieper and the Somme in September - as you say vey sobering indeed - makes you think........................

[nvubu]

I don't have any other photos of this site that aren't already on the web. I do however have a map from 1972 - cue feverish searching on GE :ok:


https://3avzma.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4mD4u_9wJ57qVycY7-s3N1nFHc__GnJkJl4cYCNEQYCz4CCArjmGJ7Gnl2Om3VnoM0Ka0TFTfF5dAa BmAWiNSwI1jP9ruhzfYDm5McI3eyQq9upW2BnfOHVeylAhD0RTaJ562RkDEN XOF43JEDK938nzaYVZllZQH5F32RrNI3dYm_pdEtbJd3Yzm7z76yVmwHCUDI Bt8gj1F-vxB0iBqPog?width=778&height=1024&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

I'm guessing Cheo Reo or Bao Loc, just from their locations on nvubu's map.

[nvubu]

Yes, it's one of those :)

[India Four Two]

Good guess, eh? ;)

I am familiar with most of the other airfields, as HH pointed out, but I had never heard of either of those and both would be in the appropriate hilly terrain.

I'm off to bed, so I'll leave the investigation to someone else.

[nvubu]

You do realise that this map may make another appearance :)


Also maybe a Lima site in future as well

[Airclues]

I'm off to bed, so I'll leave the investigation to someone else.

Investigated with the help of Google. I believe it's Cheo Reo. I42 has control as he did the hard work.

[nvubu]

That's the one. You could sneak one in while he's asleep.

[India Four Two]

Airclues,

Thanks but I don’t have anything available so it’s Open House.

[nvubu]

OK, another one from me to keep the thread going
https://zn1n1g.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4m2NhhO6dBtc-PZY9TZqkZu2t2JAjr-3QwiQpAIJVAMZBvCRu4vOS4FBOCOzH-BvfsXiE56F9HY-ZnBEr5VJfMlTo7pUsAZrSArQ8qbNrqS_oIP4YD__bKfXZ50PAY7X-9HlFed9BRu679ZAhiDQuQfHIJrONMTd6r3n_XkUenvhZqU4P1hyqYOkCW6Ev zVecf7pvlNiRybmsHGkAA5ZHbCA?width=1024&height=475&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

And an overhead - village and road network on the right haven't changed much. North is at about 4 o'clock
https://d4bq0w.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4mv-uIygUpUXMgP09Kc2ZWZSflDNLCYjA2QBqGf1JpLmDlBTA5w9QLVC6oFj1a0r nN-g1u01Fmqj3iPSQB7_3uA18FdnIcWjwpRwZYf2c_HN5R28W4kqFFESTF03YXQ q8ovtPaWG6uQicDhoiMDF7K8tXanx2JR3eiU6Cgq3UzhfuiN4kAIdCKvR54f iAKDWukonNVzQ6TY8I4cAlgYuxU-Q?width=742&height=564&cropmode=none

No strip fields remain though.

[sycamore]

Probably France....?

[nvubu]

Yes it's in France

[India Four Two]

Northeast France?

[nvubu]

Yes, but more east than north. Still very active.

[nvubu]

Clue time: At the time of the photos it was Independant

[jensdad]

I'm thinking Alsace was an independent state at one point... If so, it wouldn't be the current Strasbourg-Entzheim Airport would it??

[nvubu]

My bad phrasing again :)

Not a state, but what was based there was Independent.

Currently very active military base.

Not too far from Strasburg.

[chevvron]

Yes it's in France

Do the French really build their airfields so blurred or is it just my netbook screen?

[nvubu]

blurry photos from a book - a very old book

[nvubu]

Blimey, this is taking some time.


Another clue: Trenchard

[nvubu]

Final clue - 100 squadron

[Background Noise]

Ah - Nancy Ochey then?

[nvubu]

And we have a winner at last.... Ochey it is.

The overhead was taken during a bombing raid. 100 squadron hangers are on the left, the hangers on the bottom are occupied by a French squadron.

Over to you Background Noise.

[Background Noise]

I was a bit late to the party but I should have got it sooner. I was on 100 Sqn - and we did a sqn exchange to Nancy!

Open house.

[India Four Two]

nvubu,

You certainly had me scratching my head with the word "Independent" - I completely missed the significance of the capital 'I'.

Not too far from Strasburg.

I suppose 70 nm is "not too far" if you're flying a Mirage 2000. ;)

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture800-2017-11-19-142826.jpg

[nvubu]

Eastern Europe?

[chimbu warrior]

Hard to tell from this brief glimpse, but it looks a bit like Sorong (WASS) in Indonesia.

[Harry Wayfarers]

It doesn't look like eastern Europe to me, my first thoughts were Africa, is that sand on the ground, could this be a coastal airport?

[Heathrow Harry]

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture802-2017-11-19-142754.jpg

Bloody Hell!!

Chimbu in one!!!!!!!

Domine Eduard Osok Airport (who he?) in Sorong in Indonesian Papua it is - a (much needed) replacement for the old Jeffman Island Airport (seen offshore in the picture below). The Ajamaru Plateau in the distance on the original picture



http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture801-2017-11-19-142809.jpg

[chimbu warrior]

Thanks HH. The tower just looked familiar.

My airport recognition skills still eclipse my photo uploading skills, so open house it is.

[Heathrow Harry]

Any idea who Eduard Osok was or is????

[chimbu warrior]

None whatsoever.

[jensdad]

Good question: I've googled him and the only things that come up refer to the airport that is named after him. Looks like the airport is vastly more famous than he is!

[nvubu]

UK open day somewhere ?

[Heathrow Harry]

yes - but not UK - correct continent tho'

[Heathrow Harry]

Sorry guys - had to pull the pictures - possible copyright infringement...............

[nvubu]

:( - Where was it?

I've got a mystery aerodrome lined up if you want.

[Heathrow Harry]

Lets leave it at W Poland...............

Over to you

[nvubu]

OK - here's the next mystery aerodrome.
https://dk4ieq.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4mW_OfMA9ixAG_HbzA7tA6ckR8v_A4-SS30WfpwJBH1plb9qJkJDjcxypGByPl95M1hKLjzncxo8K2ovwBkGp52RKSj c4SMCwqSL15Qq7vY2CKF4TAtPoGZX36V7oQRLlz2qMZqJZdQ3D-SgEhEVwiiB6Z_WGSnk6_1hGwetwzOqPnbSBuMMT1TzTHWABvHVaB_s6ijH4C XUmUvqecI5hAYA?width=1024&height=741&cropmode=none

[Heathrow Harry]

Well it's clean and tidy and no howling mobs of local help

That may be a British truck in the background so lets try East Anglia?

[nvubu]

Not in the UK, but I would have thought that it would be quite possible for a British truck to be present.

[SMOKEON]

Air Transport Command markings, so CBI ?

[nvubu]

Highly unlikely that the truck is Russian as this airfield is west from the UK. There would almost definitely be British trucks close by - if not in this photo.

Not in the Pacific/CBI Theater either (had to look CBI up :ok:)

[eckhard]

Bermuda/Kindley?

[nvubu]

Getting closer, but not on Bermuda.

Here's a couple more images.
https://qpdxvg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4mmj5BWZPtZ-ul3pz7uRtM_MBNUSdMlb0ZXqP2-KTN8H31LoZPhgCChdDQvSjZSCh6oy1KYBCbVEhnVoq4jsA7b5yKN5Ysmyxud 32tlQ4__JSU9oPY9WtFgtzLjG2yjKttXVA1R3R1-DmjZWLkhLZfjvxZ53Mv5_QMlLfLzbaBHK6-s-CdTGF5_hQNBMfJ6DGFOd3JenziGkdC1IdTMNN3IQ?width=1024&height=487&cropmode=none


https://ctlhbg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4m54EZ81NayU2i_Gc2r7PsKUz5UQdnkbcjnuN91zoJB3saV7zDlvWWGVCmR 7ngYtNMqNvsYUtkyq3zA7qANW8gm-YCJtBTC3Fdp5FpgjPH--hx2UmEynpHGH1aNCWg1EyWnm4tuTLTAMhb-so0UYHjz4Mztkxtt82fOXesA0LQbfk2cpmqt_uDz3UxZPlxj0q9CTIqA_i-AKOgHXq-DcDFkA?width=1024&height=794&cropmode=none

[jensdad]

West of the UK. A bit warm judging by the sunscreens to shade the ground oppos. Lajes (or Lagens as the Yanks used to call it for some reason)?

[nvubu]

Not in the Azores, Bermuda is much closer, although too far north.

[chevvron]

Hewannora?

[nvubu]

Nope, not Hewannora, but you are getting closer.

[chevvron]

Kingston Jamaica?

[nvubu]

Jamaica is the wrong direction, south of Hewannora.

Gulliver II at this aerodrome.
https://eqvqpg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4mQe1ILyj0eLjdu9sjYJ2GhO5f_Pprv2jcfvuFldsET-nFpW8KDp9v1op_KJcyopoHUT8N2TFozCfy2ChbLwKSYWPTDYpFJYlyq_zcP9 GJ_neWOb-tG5xt1A-A5KRWaTgCPqR-I5B3ExVMHucqBJMFaft43t9XeNq7YVKyC3xsGIxcPLZ0tNNEgqR44f0KafXQ d8fCXUisu63NyZO90kHoDA?width=1024&height=730&cropmode=none

Part of the airfield is currently used for this
https://3qscpq.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4mGncc8SPcR_BS5PbTJ8FZSSZ47UNACy_fgp9_hkKV6Vaxzi7MEeTch08FC Ln2zphslidwiuv5Pg_-4KvTh8ika9up6CIEAYFsD5AOG2cnRGQGSLMjk6X1MQzR9Dvk7x5tl1QN7TFw pkKC1jLYNcITXx7B69xs5xjpfIly6mrXeDf9oNLvV_4ubfrCxtexnSBXIrow eWxbi1q9f-TKgMyPNg?width=853&height=435&cropmode=none

[DaveReidUK]

Grenada/Pearls?

[nvubu]

Not Grenada - not many more islands left now :ok:

It hasn't been an active airfield for a long time - but still recognisable as one.

[Heathrow Harry]

Looks to damp to be Aruba - so Nevis???

[nvubu]

You've gone the wrong direction.

Will the challenge get past 24 hours:)

[Heathrow Harry]

Breivengat Cuaracao

[DaveReidUK]

Waller Field ?

[nvubu]

WallerField it is. Historical photos taken April 1943.


Over to you Dave.

[DaveReidUK]

Open House, I'm afraid - busy week.

[nvubu]

As no-one has jumped in here's another one from me - bonus points for naming all the aircraft types. Click here (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20171128_01.jpg) for a larger version.

https://dk4keq.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4meNBNwhSnlUMledRVCL8mA2Jh6dD8ZUrtS___o-oNExuv5QoPfhXw1X1fhmd8bOeoNqIBwVghmood4Q3VBUoh6QvalAdfChm9sA bUFqDL56Vmsaj2FcKaEDTgl8leHXHBjrXNwAhVb4bFZ8w89HmUYH5iquzicc eMs1uELj-iCJSzO4bg4VR4_TLso7n2Pe9Hxvh4m4p7YZZg0Nh8PIpRgA?width=1024&height=783&cropmode=none

Unlike most of the other aerodromes I post, this one does appear in a GI search. However, I don't believe that the location has been identified correctly in the these other pages.

[Terry Dactil]

Great photo with lots of detail to get your teeth into!

Beufighters with american markings = USAf nightfigters before the P-61 entered service.
Somewhere in the Mediterranian theatre?

[nvubu]

Yes, it's somewhere in the Med.

[eckhard]

Beaufighters, P-38, P-61, A-20?
Don’t know where.

[Terry Dactil]

OK. How about Bastia-Poretta, Corsica?
(On 31 July 1944, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, the legendary French pilot, took off from this airport and disappeared, on a reconnaissance flight over France in a Lockheed P-38 Lightning).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Borgo_Airfield_-_Corsica_-_15_Aug_1944_-Nat_Archives.png

[nvubu]

Hmmmm. I reckon your overhead is the same airfield as my photo, which is interesting, as the contemporary description I have for it is:
This airfield in Southern France was in operation two days after the initial landings. On D-Day Maaf planes were making emergency landings on it. (30/01/1945)Which would mean mainland France.

I reckon your image is misidentified as I cannot line it up with Bastia-Poretta - even though the water course looks similar, there's no railway and the runway is totally out of alignment. However, I think I can line it up with where I think it is - no water course present today, but with the railway and runway matching. :ok:

Not had much experience with the GE overlay though, so I might be 100% wrong!

[Terry Dactil]

Aha!
Wikipedia got me!
Their page about Bastia - Poretta has that aerial photo, but they clearly labeled it as Bastia - Borgo. DOH!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastia_%E2%80%93_Poretta_Airport

A bit more research reveals that there were several airfields at that location.

I'll try again calling it Bastia - Borgo
http://www.forgottenairfields.com/uploads/airfields/france/corse/borgo/Borgo.jpg
Photo looking south taken in early 1944, with in the foreground a Lightning P38. The first airfield is Borgo, the second large airfield is Poretta (todays Bastia Poretta airport). Two more can be seen in the distance. Between the two nearest, a very small runway can be seen, which is the one created by the French and used by the Germans. This little track was used for Piper Cubs. US Groups based at Borgo were 52FG operating Spitfires, 111FG operating P-51 Mustangs and 415NFS operating Beaufighters.
More information and photos here Bastia Borgo (http://www.forgottenairfields.com/france/corsica/bastia-borgo-s1278.html)
Good stuff.

[Terry Dactil]

Nothing to see there now.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ediy03zb6d4w5zl/Borgo-1.JPG?dl=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ra5oyur3uvayq9e/Borgo%20-2.JPG?dl=1

[nvubu]

OK, that fits, so I reckon you've nailed it. Good sleuthing.

https://rmn34a.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4m42uCXCZxUhNdzULx5b08lx9lMw7G3TpboNvD84oS_Ue3fDO6yndBBNZYc pJ7Ls9fik4jp5hjTMgQVfzYATiNV5rAEAWidNlOC8Q2FcFw6YPhvEclmmDS7 6rGYMV_hDPWVSpdpkOjeYxWu8lxYEZYx9itawYXA6q7eNt03hx1_0A5PLonK tRG4o_ZTmJNjjXMT-2fdtW1sMiC9x4rLYb51g?width=1024&height=681&cropmode=none

Still clashes with the source documentation I have which is pointing to the mainland and Hyeres le Palyvestre/Toulon.
https://3qsbpq.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y4mUPr2ShxZi1ha8rglTaxwxfVMJSgOq6bO2DlLu_ZRoPQ1_Yo56L3mZUVrn q_zMTOCZaCVdKPLS_e7_GI0tAd55-W2Mw9UqPlflitcasWNLWPmFWZYy8sMKc5T0LZ8UyOfG38-6WxGIz-7Gqeu11cDJ_r0GBbw5F4wP_RqevFb88KjZbyeeJPiPuavQcXyP4Ia3ox20Ev CAdYskZ9K7fM-1w?width=979&height=728&cropmode=none

Other pages on the web with my image on it are pointing at La Vallon airfield?

Over to you Terry.

[Terry Dactil]

Thanks nvubu.
It is a good challenge when there is a high resolution photo with plenty of details available for clues.
I have nothing handy right now, so I would like to hand it back to you, or otherwise Opern House.

[Jn14:6]

Thunderbolts and Lightnings........very, very frightening..me!

[nacluv]

This was a great challenge, and I'm sadly a bit late to the party.

Not that any further proof is necessary, but I tried lining up the GE view as per the aerial photo with the P-38, as follows:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4567/24890560748_e3548e8e2a_c.jpg

Seems the corner where the Beaus were is now a prison site - fuzzed out by Google for some reason - must be a NATO prison... :)

[India Four Two]

Here’s an easy one to keep things going. An airfield I flew from in the 60s, now closed, like most of the RAF airfields I flew from.

[Shackman]

RAF Lindholme - although surely that is the 'tower' of Northern Radar!

[chevvron]

Or is it Watton or North Luffenham? Certainly does look like a Type 82 unit.

[India Four Two]

I said it was easy. Shackman has it. It's the Type 82 radar tower at Lindholme.

The Type 82 "Orange Yeoman" radar (http://www.radarpages.co.uk/mob/tactatc/type82_1.htm)

[Shackman]

Unfortunately unable to download photos at the moment, so OH.

[Harry Wayfarers]

Or is it Watton or North Luffenham? Certainly does look like a Type 82 unit.

Eastern Radar wasn't on Watton airfield or camp, it was on the edge of Watton town which was great, easier to go down the Crown Hotel boozer of a lunchtime :)

[chevvron]

Eastern Radar wasn't on Watton airfield or camp, it was on the edge of Watton town which was great, easier to go down the Crown Hotel boozer of a lunchtime :)
Lindholme wasn't on camp either, it was on its own site across the main road from the airfield.

[Heathrow Harry]

Somewhere warm


http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture818-2017-12-03-121549.jpg

[kcockayne]

Teheran, at the time of Ayetollah Khomeni’s return from exile ?

[Heathrow Harry]

Right religion wrong continent

[India Four Two]

Tripoli, Libya?

It has the desolate look I remember from my visit there.

[Heathrow Harry]

Right desert, wrong country

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture817-2017-12-03-121511.jpg

[kenparry]

Monastir, Tunisia?

[Heathrow Harry]

Closer - not a lot ...... still wrong country

[Allan Lupton]

Constantine, Algeria?

[Heathrow Harry]

Too far north

[SMOKEON]

Nouakchott Airport, Mauritania?

[Heathrow Harry]

well done!!!! Not one of the worlds great holiday destinations


https://www.pprune.org/members/326184-heathrow-harry-albums-what-airfield-picture816-2017-12-03-121405.jpg

[SMOKEON]

Thank you,Harry.
Open House.

[Russell Gulch]

Since its OH, try this one
Russ

[zetec2]

Why the kink in the road ?- in the lead in to the runway, hasn't this been on before ?.

[creweite]

that looks like TNT Dade-Collier in Florida, but something odd here, logged in but if I click on the thumbnail it takes me to a page to log in and will not show me a full size photo.

[Russell Gulch]

Dade-Collier it is, all yours crewite.

[India Four Two]

Why the kink in the road ?

Detour around what used to be a marker beacon transmitter?

I had never heard of Dade-Collier. The lack of buildings intrigued me, so I looked it up:

Begun in 1968 as the Everglades Jetport (also known as Big Cypress Jetport), the airport was planned to be the largest airport in the world, covering 39 square miles with six runways, and connected to both central Miami and the Gulf of Mexico by an expressway and monorail line. The airport would have been five times the size of JFK Airport in New York. At the time, the Boeing 2707 was under development and it was anticipated that supersonic aircraft would dominate long-haul air transportation. South Florida was viewed as an ideal location for an intercontinental SST hub due to the limitation that such aircraft would have to fly over water. Because of environmental concerns and the cancellation of the 2707 program, construction was halted in 1970 after the completion of just one 10,500' runway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dade-Collier_Training_and_Transition_Airport

[creweite]

Nothing to hand, so open house

[Russell Gulch]

Try this one its not florida but is in USA (and see if you get the same problem crewite.