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dash7fan
19th Nov 2019, 20:02
May be Cigli Air Base near Izmir Turkey?

Flap40
19th Nov 2019, 20:27
The one furthest away is Cigli airbase. Google earth has the nearer one as Cigli Military Airport.

dash7fan is in charge.

Asturias56
20th Nov 2019, 08:13
AGGGHHHH _ I saw that one when I was looking all over Turkey a few days ago for Canakkale - it was so odd I'd filed it for a future challenge.

But I was on the road yesterday and, once again, fame and fortune passed me by.......... :ouch:

PS any reason they didn't put a small taxi strip connecting the two airstrips? They could use it as a road for day to day use.

dash7fan
20th Nov 2019, 16:57
Thanks and sorry for delay

https://i.imgur.com/FOfnyqAl.jpg

Self loading bear
20th Nov 2019, 21:16
This was originally based in Lubeck Blankensee.
But that might be too easy?

Self loading bear
20th Nov 2019, 21:26
You have posted this challenge earlier.
You might have something other available?

dash7fan
21st Nov 2019, 07:34
Oh sorry, not at the moment. So OH please. By the way, München Riem is the Airport. D-CACE, ex VZ302, later G-BCOV

Asturias56
21st Nov 2019, 08:06
Another simple one

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/535x299/2019_10_30_104206_47822eb5878e2fe00b5c8070024dc97254a87b03.j pg

Asturias56
21st Nov 2019, 12:10
packing them in here so here's another picture.........

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/527x259/2019_10_30_104232_a6c203100dbb8f0d040f9b0a2783fa903702534f.j pg

nvubu
22nd Nov 2019, 12:14
Somewhere warm? Italy?

Asturias56
22nd Nov 2019, 12:54
Not Italy - warm (-ish) in summer but cold in winter........................

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/664x368/2019_11_22_135254_8ccf20888b680c0c98e788137b5bf3dfc9a7253d.j pg

grizzled
22nd Nov 2019, 14:02
Hi,

Are we in British Columbia?

Asturias56
22nd Nov 2019, 15:03
No but we are in Canada

India Four Two
22nd Nov 2019, 19:47
The next question should be "Is that water salty?"

Asturias56
22nd Nov 2019, 20:25
It's not the sea if that's what you mean.................................

sycamore
22nd Nov 2019, 20:58
Very curious about the r/w markings....looked everwhere but can`t find similar on any airfield or strip....

ea200
22nd Nov 2019, 21:15
Are we somewhere on the Great Lakes. I have never seen runway markings like that either. Looks as if there might be a PAPI just peeping out on the left, not that that helps.

Self loading bear
22nd Nov 2019, 21:26
Very curious about the r/w markings....looked everwhere but can`t find similar on any airfield or strip....

I also searched that route. I have found one photo with that parallel striping on a TSB webpage.
no airport mentioned.

Self loading bear
22nd Nov 2019, 21:40
Powell river airport could be a match

ea200
22nd Nov 2019, 23:00
But that's in BC Bear and Asturias said it wasn't there.

Self loading bear
22nd Nov 2019, 23:30
You are right
I did not check that when I found same angle view on airport with ridge on other side of the water.
There are probably 1 or 2 more ridges in Canada.

India Four Two
22nd Nov 2019, 23:52
... and probably 1 or 2 more lakes as well!

jeffb
23rd Nov 2019, 01:31
Owen Sound Ontario

Asturias56
23rd Nov 2019, 07:54
It is indeed Billy Bishop Owen Sound

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/376x254/2019_11_22_135150_af44c0973be4c1bbd1904a28ad78e736aa05a3a5.j pg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/358x216/2019_10_30_104322_3b079002b11509fcc432646ed85b635e849348c2.j pg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/241x177/2019_10_30_104149_9193bfa17cdf17e7283ffd6bd676aff66307224e.j pg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/246x265/2019_10_30_104047_ff20332b697c89f96474aea93c44afaa694a0e31.j pg

jeffb
23rd Nov 2019, 19:25
Sorry for the delay, OH called

India Four Two
23rd Nov 2019, 20:59
Going back a few years, to Billy Bishop’s era:


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1153x846/c9d41291_1e72_47d6_ba3d_80583c649aed_22524ddc55cba57cbe7ba50 9522728256d212e3b.jpeg

Asturias56
24th Nov 2019, 08:10
Is that France then?

chevvron
24th Nov 2019, 13:04
Looks more like Manston.

Asturias56
24th Nov 2019, 15:38
Think you're right Chevvron....................

Quick ! Hide - we'll have the Doctor posting on here about what a great future it has..........

India Four Two
24th Nov 2019, 16:58
You might well think that, chevvron. I couldn't possibly comment.

At least not for four hours. :)

Asturias, it's not France, but you can see it from there!

chevvron
24th Nov 2019, 18:32
Why 4 hours;has there been a rule change?
Hangar types plus shape of northern boundary and the road running through it give it away.
OH if correct.

India Four Two
24th Nov 2019, 19:26
I posted at 14:59 (UTC-7) yesterday. It’s currently 13:26, so about an hour and a half to go. :)

India Four Two
24th Nov 2019, 21:27
My 24-hour eggtimer has run out, so I can officially confirm what the cognoscenti had already figured out - it's RAF Manston.

The location of my first-ever "spotter" photo - Spitfire Mk XVI TB752 - with my bike just visible behind the port "chassis" leg. I found the contact print recently and discovered I had carefully written "Spitfire XVI" on the back!


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1342/img_2971_1039f50897919b9e43df3bf8fdee29fca8ca9a99.jpg

chevvron has declared Open House.

Asturias56
25th Nov 2019, 08:32
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/329x244/2019_11_17_104713_dae7db485769f4cfb44a51c44313a9d493d94f32.j pg


You can't see France from here..................

chevvron
25th Nov 2019, 09:37
Auchterarder/Strathallan?

Asturias56
25th Nov 2019, 09:44
Not in the Peoples Republic of Free Scotland either........

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/407x416/2019_11_17_105021_c616b825bc5e5209b5a377399eaf7ec5b2ff63d9.j pg

chevvron
25th Nov 2019, 11:27
Must be Oirish then.

Asturias56
25th Nov 2019, 11:53
Somewhat drier than the Emerald Isle

sycamore
25th Nov 2019, 12:22
Italy or Spain...?

Asturias56
25th Nov 2019, 12:42
Yes - care to be more specific?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/471x220/2019_11_17_104957_bbbf9c1c024be9f5e0d52ae02e00100de45f6ec3.j pg

sycamore
25th Nov 2019, 19:33
OK, ..Italy, judging by the young lady,unattached..?,possibly near Aquino area...MonteCassino in background,,,?

Asturias56
26th Nov 2019, 08:00
Definitely correct - you're getting close - not sure that it' s Casino but definitely the right part of Italy

It always astounds me that there are large parts of Italy no-one (even in Italy) has ever heard of that are quite charming - this place is quite rural

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x455/2019_11_17_104301_278f77aebc9c68a7c676233c5b45ebf0390e53cf.j pg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1036x701/2019_11_17_104731_244d1ccb1e22e5b1821eb5ced69134c7739acaee.j pg

sycamore
26th Nov 2019, 10:49
Can`t be more specific.;;bit of drift now;;;many years ago,flying HM`s HS125,we took a retiring General and his wife to Naples on his farewell tour,with the return to Rome after lunch,Talking to his ADC ,he said that the General had served in the area as a subaltern in WW2 at Monte Cassino.So,a plot was hatched..we`d cancel IFR after t/o and go VFR.Unfortunately all IFR departures were cancelled out of Naples as an Italian F-104 had declared a `MAYDAY` into Grazzanise ,however we persuaded ATC we`d go VFR,which we then did,but we didn`t let the General know the plot until we were airborne ,following the autostrada.,and around MC..He and his wife were very pleased with their little tour after we landed at Ciampino about 20 mins later....

Asturias56
26th Nov 2019, 11:04
Tough to give any meaningful clues as nothing has ever happened here or in the surrounding towns as far as I'm aware - it's quite a drive from Anzio for example

It's in Lazio Province and over 20 kms from the sea

nvubu
26th Nov 2019, 12:21
Meaningful clue is your last sentence - and the GE image with the little aeroplane.

Campo di Volo Ufo

sycamore
26th Nov 2019, 12:44
Bit closer..?atterraggio parapendio...41.34.9N..12.56.5E..N of Latina airfield....doesn't look like it...

IGNORE.....

Asturias56
26th Nov 2019, 14:53
Meaningful clue is your last sentence - and the GE image with the little aeroplane.

Campo di Volo Ufo


Applause breaking into standing ovation!

Campo di Volo it is! Only know about it as a colleague did some flying there

41 30 45 N 013 17 03 E

Nvubu in charge..................

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/743x517/2019_11_17_110115_75a967821408e3e7579518a6fd34ce3c74480ed9.j pg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/295x213/2019_11_17_104655_6ac46784269bfe83450bd29939c947b65669145d.j pg


middle of nowhere

nvubu
26th Nov 2019, 16:54
Thank you. I hadn't got a clue until you gave your meaningful clue. :ok:

Here is the next mystery aerodrome
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Asturias56
26th Nov 2019, 17:08
Well - that's a pretty spot................. post WW2?

nvubu
26th Nov 2019, 18:20
No, the photos I have of this airfield are all taken during WW2

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JENKINS
26th Nov 2019, 20:50
Sheikh Othman?

nvubu
26th Nov 2019, 20:56
Evening Jenkins, we aren't in Aden this evening.

nvubu
27th Nov 2019, 10:49
Here's another view
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Asturias56
27th Nov 2019, 11:42
Aircobra's? Middle East?N Africa?

ea200
27th Nov 2019, 11:54
Or Italy. Naples?

nvubu
27th Nov 2019, 11:56
We aren't in Europe or North Africa.

https://ounr2g.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mVh5WJHOO_0_cjV4KrTuA-mZ6DXI6N-tKLjJTaJWRF1xdytuFQ8aIv3nsxvP6XTAL7ElcDyvMrHQa2q_fPRkM8GghjH iCo0eC9TuOYMAgKzCYsQ4C7MhW1Reb6uipEiP-MnFyuUBXbkA-CWv68-khvVBE__lMvTJtB4ObGY-FVqjg-oOSr_FSXo5sOxCpWWLjBAHm3IJU0EOvUPs0CMneDA?width=1024&height=760&cropmode=none

Asturias56
27th Nov 2019, 12:41
S Pacific then - may be the Solomons?

sycamore
27th Nov 2019, 13:54
Ahhh,so ,Lt Yamaha..you surrendered from a Kamikazi unit ,because you wanted to ride a flathead Hairy-Davidson....? You must be a real Samurai to want that...!!

nvubu
27th Nov 2019, 14:26
I thought that you might think that when you saw a flag looking like that :p

This is nothing to do with the Pacific war - and no Japanese here.
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Asturias56
27th Nov 2019, 14:42
India Burma front?

nvubu
27th Nov 2019, 15:48
Not in India or any points east of there.:

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India Four Two
27th Nov 2019, 16:06
Red Star? Delivery to Russia. Somewhere in the Middle East?

Asturias56
27th Nov 2019, 16:26
Just noticed I asked "Aircobra's? Middle East?N Africa?" and Nvubu answered "not Europe or N Africa " - but not India or east of India so it looks like Middle East - the only issue I have is that almost all deliveries of the Aircobra to Russia went via Alaska I think but the lads in the picture above the Red Star look like they 're in Pakistan or similar.......

Habbaniyah?

ea200
27th Nov 2019, 16:54
I'll have a stab at Abadan.

nvubu
27th Nov 2019, 17:56
aa200 has it with Abadan in Iran - you have control.

I thought that my last image would be quite a clue as you didn't spot the Russian shoulder boards on the pith helmet picture :) - and I deliberately missed out "Middle East" on the Aircobra post but responded in the negative to all the other suggestions to see if it was picked up on as I had the misleading "Japanese flag" image to misdirect you. My source has this flag as a Russian Naval banner.

I came across the Lend Lease Russian deliveries from here when researching my previous Alaskan posting and thought the challenge would last a while.

Here are some more images I had lined up.
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ea200
27th Nov 2019, 19:02
Thanks nvubu. Kept following the P39 trail from the first picture. Never found the flag but I knew it wasn't the Japanese as it's offset. After my Napoli guess realised you hadn't ruled out the Middle East and the Russian link led me to Abadan. Interesting research.

Nothing to hand and will be out for a few hours so OH I'm afraid.

Asturias56
27th Nov 2019, 20:58
Cunning , very cunning...................

Asturias56
28th Nov 2019, 07:29
Nothing overnight so here's one to try................

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x212/31_3_9cd7427cb0f018e6a15f3842d9ff5778201d52d9.jpg

JENKINS
28th Nov 2019, 09:38
The 'Penney' has dropped, Aldermaston? First visited early 50's with maternal grandparents; uncle there, I later realised, was a very early nuclear boffin, and the 'Tube Alloys' in which my grandparents believed were but a cover for the true activities. Village was then delightfully sleepy.

chevvron
28th Nov 2019, 17:34
Hampstead Norris?

Self loading bear
28th Nov 2019, 17:36
I think so.....

Asturias56
28th Nov 2019, 21:33
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1296x857/asdsd1_47faa4e7b54516b453eb0f7b06f707bada22698d.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1242x848/191125_o_886091940fc626978fd807ac74f28b4fc1837b02.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/239x213/2019_11_25_154825_ae6e808003d02c25847e1c5dec2bfad91f662a7c.j pg
Jenkins has it - Aldermaston - now the Atomic weapons Establishment.......

JENKINS
29th Nov 2019, 09:56
Thanks. Now I fear that due to circs completely beyond my control I must declare Open House. Sorry for delay.

Several USAAF fields along the Kennet/Avon line. Ramsbury, Welford, Greenman Condom, Membury, and so on. Also several memorials to various American units, one beautifully placed on the hills South of Hungerford.

And now, they are coming to take me away.

Asturias56
29th Nov 2019, 13:43
Don't worry - you'll have plenty of company from PPrune in your new home.............

Self loading bear
29th Nov 2019, 15:07
As it is OH:

I wonder if they have used a color filter on this photo:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/480x464/62c58514_d243_4813_89aa_482e7f7a27f6_c8683a66492fb485b5dd09b 1e1878342c3be2c46.jpeg

Asturias56
29th Nov 2019, 16:19
I hope so - those are not colours seen in nature - at least not at that intensity

Are we in Europe?

dixi188
29th Nov 2019, 17:15
I seem to recall the mud around Sedona AZ is that sort of colour in bright sunshine.
Runway heading is wrong though.

Self loading bear
29th Nov 2019, 17:57
Sedona is closer than Europe

Self loading bear
30th Nov 2019, 12:52
I think a clue is required:
Once commercial now managed by the local city.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/659x958/bbda09a8_4d39_4458_a5b3_dc7376efa807_b1e87068cbe97d3b7349aab 69c6c5b2808eff133.jpeg
and the colors look a bit more natural on the other side of the runway.

Asturias56
30th Nov 2019, 15:10
Are we in the Lone Star State? - not much in the way of hills visible

Self loading bear
30th Nov 2019, 21:03
no it isn’t The lone star state.
I visited Houston once for the offshore exhibition.
Personally I think one star is about the maximum achievable.
But we are in the USA

India Four Two
30th Nov 2019, 22:30
SLB, as a former resident of The Lone Star State, I have to say “Them’s fightin’ words!” :)

Don’t Mess with Texas


https://youtu.be/8veDpPwFCVM

oldpax
1st Dec 2019, 04:15
I have seen Shackeltons do that!In fact I have been in a shackelton doing it! what an experience!!

Asturias56
1st Dec 2019, 07:57
Are we in the Confederacy?

Self loading bear
1st Dec 2019, 09:15
So amazing how easy to pull some flak!
Nice videos!
As for the Shackletons: if there is no YouTube video or you don’t have the T-shirt, then there is no proof!

Yes we are in Confederate country.

Asturias56
1st Dec 2019, 11:18
Looked like Florida, Arkansas or Georgia - thought I'd got it at Bessemer, Alabama but it isn't

Self loading bear
1st Dec 2019, 14:08
5 states down
6 to go
My challenge lasts longer on this playground than last time.

Hen Ddraig
1st Dec 2019, 23:29
Spartanburg Downtown Memorial, South Carolina

SC mud does get that colour

OH i'm afraid

HD

oldpax
2nd Dec 2019, 01:00
If I can figure out how to put a photo on here I have one!!The time I was in one was in Sri Lank and I was looking into the control tower!! Only groundcrew mind!

Self loading bear
2nd Dec 2019, 05:04
Hen dgraig has the right answer with Spartanburg Memorial.
I posted Spartanburg before with the control tower/tobogan in the playground.

OH is called.

Old Pax it is not difficult there is some guidance in the FAQ part of the website.
It is easiest when you already have the file on your own computer/ telephone.
I always make a screenshot of the picture to be in the correct range of file size and it avoids any file info to be transferred.
(like place and date)

Asturias56
3rd Dec 2019, 07:56
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/308x321/2019_11_28_110057_2de7dd4cde3d390d66e220390f19d3f82b4bce3f.j pg
try this

Asturias56
3rd Dec 2019, 08:36
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/150x165/2019_11_28_110231_5fb1015a9659caa351898fdafcd440870a8f737f.j pg

Auxtank
3rd Dec 2019, 08:52
RAF Chilbolton

Asturias56
3rd Dec 2019, 09:44
RAF Chilbolton


Right country, wrong airfield

Auxtank
3rd Dec 2019, 09:52
Looks like southern England...

Where's dook?

Shackman
3rd Dec 2019, 09:59
A guess at Down Ampney,

PS - Oldpax I have seen Shackeltons do that!In fact I have been in a shackelton doing it! I was also in a Shackleton doing that, and although no T shirt my post flight bollocking was heard by most of the rest of the Squadron

Asturias56
3rd Dec 2019, 10:58
Not Down Ampney either

Dook? He was reduced to the ranks and post zeroed early in November I think and has hardly been seen since. Probably on here under a different name I suspect

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/197x203/2019_11_28_110138_23475e2810be7f699fec3b1e486e83f55c33557b.j pg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/235x273/2019_11_28_110028_f5a1063c0d2a6b57f41ed64b3d7fcfbda2d92f4e.j pg
here are some of those who served there............

JENKINS
3rd Dec 2019, 12:20
Did those who served so do at Spanhoe?

Asturias56
3rd Dec 2019, 12:42
This is not Spanhoe but some people did serve at both I believe - I am not sure about these particular individuals

The base is still active

here are some more cheerful souls

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/365x305/2019_11_28_110012_500bd4e04a1a91888cc7881e193242d8a7ee2c51.j pg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/311x197/2019_11_28_105958_2a4a5c0e912033d1f764049803042733ec895729.j pg

JENKINS
3rd Dec 2019, 14:18
So, perhaps up the road to an 'active' Barkston Heath?

Asturias56
3rd Dec 2019, 14:39
We are certainly traveling the highways & byways of England today - regretfully not Barkston Heath either

This place is a lot more accessible..................

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/238x214/2019_11_28_110204_3a395c287a853723c32f37523ab2b75b3169dcce.j pg

Asturias56
3rd Dec 2019, 14:46
From GE

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/755x666/2019_12_03_154412_c4f6c5064b8681df5ef9174a714366d33c45c69f.j pg

JENKINS
3rd Dec 2019, 16:21
43rd Troop Carrier Squadron of 315th Troop Carrier Wing continues to haunt me through my Interweb machine. Wikmedia shows a larger version of the original post.

Russell Gulch
3rd Dec 2019, 19:22
SLB, as a former resident of The Lone Star State, I have to say “Them’s fightin’ words!” :)

Don’t Mess with Texas (https://youtu.be/XlFD0Zyl_f0)


https://youtu.be/8veDpPwFCVM

At least is was called the Confederate Air Force back then. Political correctness gone overboard since then!

Asturias56
4th Dec 2019, 07:58
You are correct Jenkins - the 315th served here - but just about everywhere else as well as far as I can see

It's active but I think it's a while since there were any fixed wing operations - people may (or may not) come in by helicopter - I don't know.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/962x346/2019_12_03_154445_8f1205dccb94c4fbf6731f9c5383a2e1ddf8ac5d.j pg


Just realised this looks like RNAS Culdrose - but it isn't..............

Auxtank
4th Dec 2019, 07:59
RAF Welford

Asturias56
4th Dec 2019, 08:11
Hurrah!!! Good shot Auxtank

Yes, right on the M4 and still quite a busy place some days even now

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/613x400/2019_12_04_090042_122c60947399c43f2aaf773ae5b291e7526ebb1b.j pg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/218x142/2019_11_28_105927_db159b29f2ecf38a9519a16c51016a9026cd18e9.j pg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/287x176/191204_index_446953547cffef16241327a0e4ef0551cc87267c.jpg

Auxtank
4th Dec 2019, 08:33
Thanks. It was Jenkins's clue about the 315th previous addresses that clinched it.

That GE pic above (with the Motorway End sign on the gate) is the 'secret junction'.
Drive up there and very quickly some rather serious looking chaps will appear to see if they can help you.

Having nothing prepared...

OH

JENKINS
4th Dec 2019, 09:35
But I have something. Apparently disused, on the site of an earlier field. The original field, conceived as a decent plan, suffered an air raid which would have daunted the spirit of Section Officer Harvey, and failed due mostly to the intransigence of the contemporary favourite uncle. Amazing what one learns from Sunday newspapers.

And I am sticking with Spanhoe!
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1575280775_374bca054237952489a836b6fecb01a21b ffdaee.jpg

Asturias56
4th Dec 2019, 09:40
Not terribly secret given the large signs as you drive from the Bristol direction - and from the air it stands out like... anything. But I heard they were very keen to discourage passers-by driving up to the gate in the picture

You can see the guard tower in the top picture above just to the right of the woods - I presume they have sensors on the road as well. Someone told me it was used as a Cruise Missile deployment location out of Greenham but they are still all top secret other than "Salisbury Plain" where a close friend ran into a deployment one night in the '80's - he claimed he was on a rally but we all suspect he was out dogging.

chevvron
4th Dec 2019, 12:16
There used to be a railway line spur running from the main railway line near Newbury into Welford but I think it's been closed now; it's most intensive use was apparentlyduring the Viet Nam war.
Greenham Cruise Missile deployments may have occured here; there was a domestic site here in the late '70s/early '80s, but the only deployments I knew about were at a certain British army camp near RAF Oakhanger occuring every 2 or 3 months.
As to Jenkins challenge at #17869, I would guess one of the USAF bases in France vacated when De Gaulle chucked the USAF out.

JENKINS
4th Dec 2019, 13:38
An original reply from Chevvron, but pre-dating those years. De Gaulle looked more like my maternal grandfather than any of my favourite uncles.

Asturias56
4th Dec 2019, 15:56
"failed due mostly to the intransigence of the contemporary favourite uncle"

Favourite Uncle?? I have many Uncle's but the Favourite Uncle is shown below?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/400x288/stalin_electrification_a5353978d325201a2df5e04a0ae3fcc3c79b6 86e.jpg


If so, and he frustrated it, we're talking Operation Frantic perhaps - the USAAF plan to base bombers in the USSR in WW2.

This of course takes us to Poltava in the Ukraine which was one of 3 bases the USAAF used.

Asturias56
4th Dec 2019, 15:59
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x617/2019_12_04_165843_fa9086c096b5194300aaf680914f909e66ce4eb7.j pg

JENKINS
4th Dec 2019, 16:28
Yes. I will ignore the current protocol, and say well done. Recently published book has revealed all. Better to confirm now and perhaps we can move on.

Asturias56
5th Dec 2019, 07:47
OH I'm afraid - I'm out for the next couple of days :*

mgahan
5th Dec 2019, 20:31
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/285x200/which_aerodrome_1972_cropped_again_0beb69fc970cfe6359988ea3e d2393bca72ac2d1.jpg

evansb
5th Dec 2019, 22:28
Concorde 002 at Tullamarine Airport, 1972?

mgahan
6th Dec 2019, 04:26
Cannot fault you on the aircraft type but the aerodrome is certainly not Tulla. .
.
Check the background and I'll post an uncropped view with more clues as the location in the morning.

evansb
6th Dec 2019, 05:44
Well...the ground vehicle looks the the aft of a 1972 Holden UTE. Any points for that?

Asturias56
6th Dec 2019, 08:25
Well...the ground vehicle looks the the aft of a 1972 Holden UTE. Any points for that?


Ellenkon Athens - the old airport?

Ellinikon Ellinikon Ellinikon ........... Ελληνικόν - I'll get it right eventually

chevvron
6th Dec 2019, 09:42
Did a Concorde ever get as far as Oz?

Asturias56
6th Dec 2019, 14:37
Wikipedia "In terms of the Concorde though, the reason the Concorde flew so many demonstration flights to Sydney that Qantas took an option to purchase four Concordes. British Aircraft Corporation, began a hard sell, sending several planes to Sydney and Melbourne. In the end, the Concorde was never purchased by Qantas"

mgahan
6th Dec 2019, 22:16
Evansb - full points for the year..
Asturias56 - fishing in Wikipedia - there is good fishing near this airport as well.

Does the uncropped picture assist with the background.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/375x200/which_aerodrome_1972_b962abc16b343ed719650419cd5a29d6268c12e a.jpg

Asturias56
7th Dec 2019, 06:56
well that looks like a Penfolds Sign picked out on the hill above the guy's hat but that ain't Adelaide

That uniform looks vaguely Irish but it doesn't look like Shanon or Aldergrove or Dublin either

JENKINS
7th Dec 2019, 09:24
An Irish policeman at Sydney?

Asturias56
7th Dec 2019, 13:36
Is it Sydney?

mgahan
7th Dec 2019, 21:19
It certainly is Sydney, 1972.

I cropped initially in case the gable markers made it too easy and also to remove the old South Sydney transfer station chimney which, for may years, provided a "shield" for high rise development as the mental pygmies in the Department wanted to assess each application as a separate event rather than declaring the airspace .

Not sure who actually gets the nod for the next challenge: Jenkins for the hint or Asturias for asking the question.and some good detective work and geography lessons.

Lets make it Jenkins on the timestamps.

MJG

JENKINS
8th Dec 2019, 03:30
Thanks, found said photograph eventually. Really quite an ancient airport. Now this. Simplest name is shared or has been shared in various areas with links to the English language; I have indeed worked from such a place. This spot, merely a passing acquaintance en-route.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1575715556_cca60a11987460551e42781a23ffb73e26 1baf6c.jpg

Asturias56
8th Dec 2019, 07:56
I' certainly didn't get anywhere near Sydney on the last challenge - I was bog-bound in the Emerald Isle IIRC.

For the latest challenge - are we in Africa?

JENKINS
8th Dec 2019, 08:51
Good morning, and despite the colour, 'non.'

On reflection, 'no' would be a fairer answer.

Asturias56
8th Dec 2019, 09:50
Is or was this some sort of Military base? the houses to the east look very uniform in style?

And "simplest name" - so it has two or more alternatives??

JENKINS
8th Dec 2019, 12:11
Not military as far as I know, and highly unlikely. Probably two names, one somewhat difficult, even for a Welshman.

Self loading bear
8th Dec 2019, 12:34
Might it be a compound/village of a mining or oil company?
south America?

JENKINS
8th Dec 2019, 13:29
Not South America. I operated from a spot where the English name which applies here had been changed to reflect the locale. Getting to that spot was 'such a bad experience,' whereas my passing acquaintance with the field shown was a very long way from my insular starting point, and several days from my insular destination.

The original settlement by outsiders here was probably missionary, and a warning from the mission was ignored at a crucial time.

Asturias56
8th Dec 2019, 15:52
So - you were based on an island and returned there

SO is this a continental land mass?

JENKINS
8th Dec 2019, 16:01
This is not part of a continental land mass.

I just passed by en-route from one island to another, a journey of 11 days, and mostly completely uneventful. Had a slightly timorous start to the day on which I passed by this spot.

JENKINS
8th Dec 2019, 16:03
Please note that I am a dreadful pedant, and a former geography master.

Asturias56
8th Dec 2019, 16:24
A timorous start ? Where you flying out of Timor?

JENKINS
8th Dec 2019, 16:35
Good, that narrows the matter. Actually it was a matter of crossing the Timor Sea after aggressive treatment by the host nation prior to departure that day.

Asturias56
8th Dec 2019, 16:43
Ah - it's Wurrumiyanga on Bathhurst Island N of Darwin

Timor? there's a dump - 400 years of Portuguese non-benign neglect followed by 40 years of Indonesia oppression...................


I got there once a about the 3rd time of asking - and regretted it..............

PS I am of course referring to Timor Leste which is actually a very attractive place but not good. I tried to get to Kupang a couple of times in Suharto's time but the flights were always "cancelled", "fully booked" or "very very expensive" - i presume it's an earthly paradise :uhoh:

JENKINS
8th Dec 2019, 16:58
There had been enough time for an Antipodean answer ce matin, so, yes, that's it. I operated a couple of years later out of Banjul, a former Bathurst; this trip was Isle of Wight to Tahiti. A nephew did his humanitarian bit in Timor, and a military organisation used machines there which formerly I had graced.

Asturias56
8th Dec 2019, 17:01
Here's another warm spot

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/455x191/2019_12_04_090239_1ef17b4e9eae3d22d90ba00f340770c65344991f.j pg

Self loading bear
8th Dec 2019, 17:46
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/730x470/af354f84_3094_42ea_b0fa_6de8bf2f4ad4_068602e19031bd745a9ed8c 97ea67fd67c3479b1.jpeg
Look-a-like of Mount Rushmore

India Four Two
8th Dec 2019, 18:52
I’ll go for the other hemisphere - Yemen or Oman?

Asturias56
9th Dec 2019, 03:31
I’ll go for the other hemisphere - Yemen or Oman?

I42 is correct

Here's another couple

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/356x243/2019_12_04_090641_5bd2a7ab971674ec504b323c9f4b0077e1122ba4.j pg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/495x214/2019_12_04_090318_6af7b739088854b361893c2969376a1a58fdaef6.j pg

nvubu
9th Dec 2019, 12:00
Not sure if this is the proper name - YLNG airstrip?

Asturias56
9th Dec 2019, 13:52
Not YLNG Balhaf - but right country.............

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/245x203/2019_12_04_090425_cc5d335461f5865c10e509150816539424a5f263.j pg

JENKINS
9th Dec 2019, 14:37
Unable to make out a field from the photographs, but on the coast towards Oman is Riyan, as in RSM. I believe it may be active.

Asturias56
9th Dec 2019, 15:44
Riyan has an airport just to the east of the village/town but it's not there - you are too far north

It's had a number of rulers from all over the shop TBH but these days it is a pretty undeveloped spot.

Asturias56
9th Dec 2019, 15:55
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/183x185/2019_12_04_090611_855cce87e3b5192d57c3e74e1e3ed89ae70f292e.j pg
Flying in to the airport has been problematic recently due to RSAF/UAE military activity but I believe it's possible maybe once a week from outside of Yemen.

JENKINS
9th Dec 2019, 16:53
My only thought now might be Socotra?

Auxtank
9th Dec 2019, 17:14
Unless Taiz.

India Four Two
9th Dec 2019, 17:56
Geology looks wrong for Taiz and it's a long way from the sea. JENKINS may be on to something with Socotra.

Self loading bear
9th Dec 2019, 19:21
Not YLNG Balhaf - but right country.............

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/245x203/2019_12_04_090425_cc5d335461f5865c10e509150816539424a5f263.j pg

Asturias often posts a photo from the google maps site.....

Auxtank
9th Dec 2019, 19:28
Maybe Djibouti?

JENKINS
9th Dec 2019, 21:15
Bedtime now, and out most of tomorrow, GMT of course, so OH from me if correct on that obscure island. On the matter of obscurity, ages ago I put up the even more obscure Kuria Muria Island, and, of course, it was identified.

Asturias56
10th Dec 2019, 07:13
Jenkins has it - Socotra it is - I think there's a weekly flight with yemenia from Cairo - or a cement boat from Oman - as the only way in these days but the locals seem to be happy to be left in peace

Jenkins has declared OH

India Four Two
10th Dec 2019, 08:18
Here's an older aerodrome:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/572x716/wad_2019_12_10_825b13a7ce4c005e5956c3fc2869dca315daff16.jpg

Asturias56
10th Dec 2019, 11:27
That looks like N America?

India Four Two
10th Dec 2019, 19:07
Bingo. Now you need to narrow it down a bit.

India Four Two
11th Dec 2019, 23:24
A couple of clues:

1. It's west of "flyover country", although this perhaps is obvious.

2. Mainly for the benefit of Asturias56, the rocks in the background are Mississippian carbonates.

JENKINS
12th Dec 2019, 10:59
Big guess at Morley, Alberta?

India Four Two
12th Dec 2019, 17:22
Good guess, JENKINS. “Close but no cigar!”

However, you are in the right province and the right mountains! :)

JENKINS
12th Dec 2019, 17:37
Do I get a cigar for the original High River?

Auxtank
12th Dec 2019, 17:56
I'll take that cigar off Jenkins if it's Benchmark - with "Chinese Wall" Mountain in the background...

About 200 NM South of Calgary...

evansb
12th Dec 2019, 21:39
Banff, Alberta?

India Four Two
12th Dec 2019, 21:53
Auxtank,
I hadn't heard of Benchmark or the Chinese Wall, but that location is in the wrong country. ;)

evansb ,
Not Banff.

I've never landed at this location but I have flown over it. The current airfield appears to be slightly west of where these two aircraft are.

Auxtank
12th Dec 2019, 21:58
Auxtank,
I hadn't heard of Benchmark or the Chinese Wall, but that location is in the wrong country. ;)



So we're in Canada not USA?
Alberta as suppose to Montana.

Not that far apart.

India Four Two
12th Dec 2019, 22:10
Auxtank,

I think you missed my earlier clue:
However, you are in the right province and the right mountains! :)

MT and AB - geographically close, but culturally far apart! Waitress in Great Falls, talking to three Brits and a Canadian:
"Where you guys from?"
"Calgary."
"Where?"
"Alberta."
"Where?"
"Canada."
"Oh, up there!"

We used to go down there in my wilder days, to drive fast. The daytime speed limit was "Reasonable and prudent."

evansb
13th Dec 2019, 01:35
Jasper Park Airstrip.

India Four Two
13th Dec 2019, 02:11
Local knowledge wins out! If it wasn't Banff, Jasper was the next logical choice. The picture has an interesting history:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/575x740/jasper_airfield_1920_9eaf6f90a4e57bfb4ae4413e33394cd1b13aae3 f.jpg

The peak clipped off on the left of the picture is Morro Peak, just to the north of the present day Jasper airfield and on the east side of the Athabasca River valley, that is followed by the Yellowhead Highway and the CNR tracks.

Two US Army DH-4Bs landed at Jasper in 1920. They were part of a US Army expedition to Alaska and back.

Military aircraft began flying in Alaska in 1920 when the Black Wolf Squadron, or The Alaska Flying Expedition, made The New York to Nome Flight. Capt. St. Clair Street commanded 7 men in 4 DH-4s as they took off from Mitchel Field on 17 July 1920. Each plane had a black profile of a Wolf's head painted on their sides. The trip organizer, Billy Mitchell wanted to establish an airway to Alaska and Asia. The 9349 mile round trip route included flying west to North Dakota, then north through Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia, the Yukon, and onwards to Fairbanks on 19 Aug. and finally Nome on the 23rd. They started their return trip on the 31st, landing Mitchel Field on 20 Oct. 1920 after 112 flying hours.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleventh_Air_Force

Capt. St. Clair Streett (at left) with pilots of the 1920 Alaskan Flying Expedition:
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/720x486/pilots_of_the_1920_alaskan_expedition_89d7ac20940b085c7f5e57 6f321b195accd445ce.jpeg

More information in a book blurb here:
https://www.windcanyonbooks.com/reslr_product_info.php?products_id=343

evansb has control.

evansb
13th Dec 2019, 04:21
Thank you. Incredible story. What brave aviators they were! I will post a challenge around 1600 UTC, Friday. If a PPRuNer would like to post a challenge in the interim, by all means feel free to do so. Good night.

evansb
13th Dec 2019, 12:50
Looks like I need three more posts to be able to post a URL, so OPEN HOUSE.

Asturias56
13th Dec 2019, 13:19
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/265x148/2019_12_05_180858_030844f6ea7b1bb517054a7f69fb0f0a2fe729e3.j pg
no mountains near here

chevvron
13th Dec 2019, 14:47
Parham West Sussex?

Asturias56
13th Dec 2019, 14:49
Nope - not 10,000 miles away tho.......... this
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/277x290/2019_12_05_181011_fa90b681af3b9a5d3c59b357daa9f9f0f39f7332.j pg
is slightly bigger as well

WIDN62
13th Dec 2019, 19:02
Headcorn, Kent?

India Four Two
13th Dec 2019, 19:12
Going back to the DH-4s at Jasper, here is a contemporaneous newspaper account:

The Edmonton Bulletin, September 28, 1920 (http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/newspapers/EDB/1920/09/28/1/Ar00114.html?query=newspapers%7Cjasper+AND+airplane%7C%7Csco re&fbclid=IwAR2g48zW23g9UJoc-p7l5_hV9nutEF6BQE5NMY1CBZUwrZ6imL1f0k0MC3c)

As evansb said - brave aviators.

mustbeaboeing
13th Dec 2019, 20:31
Dunstable Downs

open House if correct

Asturias56
14th Dec 2019, 07:44
No its not in the UK even though the landscapes are similar

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/417x310/2019_12_05_180619_252c1f142beb49b78a345bd48c6c2c9939851ea7.j pg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/242x246/2019_12_05_180716_8bfd3f581f133e6ee9471075df1a3a3ec15b2766.j pg

Self loading bear
14th Dec 2019, 12:14
Denmark???

Asturias56
14th Dec 2019, 13:20
No but Europe..............

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/272x256/2019_12_05_180655_98b97e13ae0eb65167a93d96438a5b4a542c1bce.j pg

Asturias56
14th Dec 2019, 13:21
and there's even a gate Guardian

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/213x223/2019_12_05_180804_a9e68bda933474693e55d66b9cfd1c64cbe06992.j pg

Self loading bear
14th Dec 2019, 13:53
I think this guardian has been sold eastwards in 2006?

Asturias56
14th Dec 2019, 14:36
Yes - its an old photo - sorry!! So you know the answer Bear?

Self loading bear
14th Dec 2019, 14:46
I think I do,
But I have not much time to host another challenge.
Would then be an OH so I prefer to leave this one for somebody else.
If there are no takers I can always check in again later.

Asturias56
15th Dec 2019, 05:19
Lets try another picture or two - thos was built in WW2 asa temporary strip - these days it's private a/c only I believe - no scheduled flights. The area suffered badly in WW1 and WW2

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/306x188/2019_12_05_180835_55c7f77fba2c4f8e0b17453248aa49e749560e06.j pg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/229x133/2019_12_05_181132_88d89f97185717009f0a730d6efd6a15f4b11121.j pg

Self loading bear
15th Dec 2019, 15:25
Let’s change control of threads.
This is Aerodrome de Namurs/Temploux.

Asturias56
16th Dec 2019, 08:48
It is indeed - Bear has the thread.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/632x511/2019_12_05_180553_c36342ff96c302cb69988bdf92c5f1ad0d0a859d.j pg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/253x181/2019_12_05_180639_1859a08493451a54cf4619abd8ddab88134695e2.j pg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/229x183/2019_12_05_181540_a9d54f0b9ec9821627d267f18cbabf5ad05f30bb.j pg

Self loading bear
16th Dec 2019, 13:23
Thanks Asturias,

Recently I passed Namur on the highway.
The airport was mentioned on the signs from various directions.
I therefore got the impression that it was larger than it now shows to be.
The Belgian Mirage has been sold to a Polish open air Aircraft museum.

Now this:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1161x542/a04c1673_13cc_42ab_9cb4_84ebe6b9f05d_b7a09e2e7ca8f42461475d8 2340b794d00a13472.jpeg

Asturias56
16th Dec 2019, 13:40
hmm, very boggy .

That's an old F-28/BAC11/DC-9 hulk on the extreme right - looks like a fire fighting hulk.

Is that a lake or the see? It looks terribly Scandinavian - it's soooooo neat

Self loading bear
16th Dec 2019, 16:23
That a sea but not Scandinavian

sycamore
16th Dec 2019, 16:41
Baltic Sea....?

Self loading bear
16th Dec 2019, 18:55
Not Baltic either
You are not getting much closer.
I am searching the type of the practise hulk.
Standby for that.

sycamore
16th Dec 2019, 19:06
east coast Canada...?

Self loading bear
16th Dec 2019, 19:27
Even further off-course
Cannot find confirmation on the training aircraft.
next clue:

The ship is from Luxembourg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1158x553/95090751_780a_427c_bd83_df09b03ec196_4f25366ade01d42d7145a73 61d4a9bdcbb2b7261.jpeg

Flap40
16th Dec 2019, 21:06
I think that might be Brisbane.

mgahan
17th Dec 2019, 00:24
And I think you are correct. THold 32 a couple of years back.

MJG

Self loading bear
17th Dec 2019, 05:21
So now I have waited for other time zones to react, I think there is little use to wait till 24 hours have past.
Flap40 has control with Brisbane.

The dredger provided the sand for the new parallel runway.
The Belgian dredging company registers its ships in Luxembourg for fiscal reasons.
No way this Dredger Charles Darwin could reach Its Homeport.

Flap40
17th Dec 2019, 09:29
Cheers. The shadows versus the runway direction pointed to the southern hemisphere and a google of rwy32 Australia came up with Brisbane as the first choice.

Try this one.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/990x892/79845647_2782702688460019_4939007636424097792_o_ab03ed0bc4c2 a25d0783f63e965468e693c6aa69.jpg

oxenos
17th Dec 2019, 09:35
Guernsey St Peter Port

Flap40
18th Dec 2019, 13:10
Sorry! a bit late in declaring oxen's correct with St Peter Port, Guernsey.

oxenos
18th Dec 2019, 13:13
Thank you,
Another one I came across on holiday
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x510/apt2_50e5677369c01b688b3d3071a0361910a706231a.jpg

Asturias56
18th Dec 2019, 15:43
Is it in Europe?

oxenos
18th Dec 2019, 17:30
It is........

JENKINS
18th Dec 2019, 20:00
But missing a few marbles perhaps?

oxenos
18th Dec 2019, 20:35
Are you thinking Parthenon? I don't think there is an airport there.

JENKINS
19th Dec 2019, 07:40
No, just perhaps digging into the mind of Philhellene.

oxenos
19th Dec 2019, 08:00
Digging? Mind? Marbles? Philhellene?
There is a marble mine on Paros, but that is not Paros airport.
You are barking up the wrong tree.
Or down the wrong hole.

Asturias56
19th Dec 2019, 08:45
I suspect its a VERY CUNNING CLUE - Jenkins will not take offence I'm sure if I say he sometimes has a mind like a cork-screw..............

Is in modern Greece?

oxenos
19th Dec 2019, 09:55
I go to Greece on holiday every year, as J. Has realised. Found thousands of Tiger Moths on Paros one year. It was their breeding season.
Mind you I go to other places on holiday as well.

sycamore
19th Dec 2019, 12:56
Did you go to Jockistan for this one...?

oxenos
19th Dec 2019, 14:55
Not Jockistan

Asturias56
19th Dec 2019, 16:01
Somewhere reasonably civilised as they paint white lines down the side of the road but those trees look a bit dangerous............. UK?

oxenos
19th Dec 2019, 16:19
You think the trees are dangerous? The road signs warn that the road may be slippery, but don't mention the possibility of an aircraft skimming over the road. Not U.K.

Self loading bear
19th Dec 2019, 18:26
Germany???

oxenos
19th Dec 2019, 21:04
It does look as if it could be Germany or Scotland, but it is neither.

India Four Two
20th Dec 2019, 05:45
Let's go further afield. New Zealand?

Asturias56
20th Dec 2019, 07:26
He said it was in Europe in post #17969 - Austria perhaps?

oxenos
20th Dec 2019, 08:13
Head South

sycamore
20th Dec 2019, 09:40
Back in Ferrari` country then...?

oxenos
20th Dec 2019, 12:17
Italy it is.

Asturias56
20th Dec 2019, 12:50
perhaps another picture? There are dozens of small airfields in Italy...............

oxenos
20th Dec 2019, 16:05
I do not have another photo, and anything I lift from Giggle would be too easy to trace.
I will give more clues between now and Monday, when I shall be off line for a week. If no one has it by then I will give the answer and declare OH.
It is a club airfield in Tuscany

Asturias56
21st Dec 2019, 01:47
Could be Viterbo but that looks too large?

oxenos
21st Dec 2019, 10:13
Just a bit. This is a single grass strip 12/30, 715 M long. The road, which is seen in the photo, is 10 M above the level of the 12 threshold. Just as well they don't have double decker buses in Italy.

Asturias56
21st Dec 2019, 15:32
I once watched a 747 land at Kai Tak just as a very large and tall load drove over the fly-over at the end of the runway - it looked horribly, horribly close.................

Self loading bear
21st Dec 2019, 15:58
Aviosuperficie Valdera
has the right strip but not matching trees and hangar????

oxenos
21st Dec 2019, 16:28
Not Valdera. It has only been open a few years.

Self loading bear
21st Dec 2019, 17:37
Avioclub Siena Chiusdino?

oxenos
21st Dec 2019, 17:45
S L B you are spot on. All yours.

Self loading bear
21st Dec 2019, 18:03
Thanks,

I could not find it on Google maps.
Probably old photos can you send a map link?

Now this:
Does it count as an Aerodrome?

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/719x819/528938f4_dc42_49d8_a13e_08bfbccd80ec_e684f736a32f840d165084e 743edc5972903c767.jpeg

oxenos
21st Dec 2019, 18:10
http://www.avioclubchiusdino.it/

Self loading bear
21st Dec 2019, 18:24
Thanks I now see my fault in copying the coordinates into Gmaps

broadreach
21st Dec 2019, 20:52
SLB will it clear 50 ft?

Self loading bear
21st Dec 2019, 22:14
I guess the site is 100x50ft but certainly not clear!

India Four Two
22nd Dec 2019, 01:24
That’s an Iskra TS-11 sitting in the weeds. Are we therefore in Poland?

Self loading bear
22nd Dec 2019, 08:31
Poland indeed.
Bonus points for the person who can tell why it is in the weeds.

asw28-866
22nd Dec 2019, 09:39
Well here it is, 52.18858719N 23.02934837E , near a village called Wolka Nosowska. Close up image here(A Kalinowski): Twoje forum lotnictwa lotnictwo.net.pl - PZL-Mielec TS-11 Iskrabis - 311 - 1H-0311 - Poland: Other location - Wólka Nosowska( ) | Aleksander Kalinowski (EPBC Spotters) (http://lotnictwo.net.pl/gallery/photo/aircraft-PZL-Mielec_TS-11_Iskrabis/airline-Poland_-_Air_Force/reg-311/cn-1H-0311/foto-389235.html)

No idea what it is doing there, nor what, if any, airfield is assocaiated!

Asturias56
22nd Dec 2019, 11:08
https://www.fakt.pl/wydarzenia/polska/warszawa/odrzutowiec-w-zagajniku-we-wsi-wolka-nosowska/b1wbpty


The village leader of the village of Arkadiusz Romaniuk in an interview with Onet journalists explained that the machine was on a private property and was bought several years ago from the airport in Biała Podlaska as a decoration.

Self loading bear
22nd Dec 2019, 11:26
Welcome back ASW!
That the correct answer!
You have control.

Asturias gets the bonus points.
On some sites it is suggested that the plane was put there as radar testing target.
But I thought that unlikely as there is space enough on Military ground to do radar testing.

The plane is on a semi buried storage cellar which explains that they plough around it

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/293x170/b9750867_3c2f_4cdf_8d10_5a3e7c1eb81d_a6ac2200191fcf420c5bf2e f44bcc4ab8e2e7cda.jpeg

asw28-866
22nd Dec 2019, 21:52
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x545/bj1s_15098e4f7caa84dd8f751616fc5550cc9b837455.png

Thank you SLB, this one certainly is of an aerodrome, and even has my Mum in it!

Asturias56
23rd Dec 2019, 08:24
UK? Benson pops into mind but I can't think why....

asw28-866
23rd Dec 2019, 08:49
UK is correct, not Benson.

nvubu
23rd Dec 2019, 12:02
Kenley, 1978(ish) - if it is, I was probably in one of those tents on the right.

asw28-866
23rd Dec 2019, 19:55
Getting warmer nvubu, right decade, right county.

Mum & I were both at the 1978 Kenley event.

sycamore
23rd Dec 2019, 21:28
Slope on r/w may be Biggin Hill...?

asw28-866
23rd Dec 2019, 21:42
Bravo, sycamore has it Biggin Hill it is. This is a post Air Fair shot taken in 1972 when Sportair flying club were about to depart for the annual trip to the Sportavia Fournier factory in Germany. Aircraft are lined up along the edge of runway 29/11 looking West towards the then still active (OASC) RAF side, not too far from where the below image was taken.

You have the Christmas control.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1361/biggintwr_ea24efe7522a1fedeab9ed492b9eeb3106cd211c.jpg

sycamore
23rd Dec 2019, 21:52
Sorry ,nothing available,so I suggest you `Open Chimneys`,and see what drops in...Merry Christmas all....!!