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Blimey - what a quiet day !
jensdad
5th Nov 2018, 19:28
Blimey - what a quiet day !
It certainly is! I'm going to have a punt at Papeete... Just to keep things shuffling along.
Good try but you are a long way too east.
kcockayne
5th Nov 2018, 20:13
Influenced by jensdad - & really without any meaningful clue - La Reunion ?
We're in the south Pacific and jensdad is about 2000 miles too far east.
chimbu warrior
5th Nov 2018, 20:58
Possibly Nadi (NFFN) looking slightly west of north, although the range in the right-hand background looks too low.
OH if correct.
It is indeed Nadi. :ok:
OH is requested.
mgahan
6th Nov 2018, 02:09
Bit of history both aviation and family behind these. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1167x859/southern_cloud_incident_bne_1_705b6e962dfec3768846e647c7a6a4 26dba48226.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1103x864/southern_cloud_incident_bne_8c7e6427ae638813ae91733adc79f6e0 09227978.jpg
Is that aircraft an Avro 10 ?
It might be a Fokker, but the Southern Cross disappeared as did the Southern Cloud.
sycamore
6th Nov 2018, 10:01
Bit too much `welly` from the Fordson Major guys......
India Four Two
6th Nov 2018, 10:39
Bit too much `welly` from the Fordson Major guys......
Or with a hand-throttle, would that be too much "right-hand up a bit"?
It appears the OP lives in Melbourne, so I doubt there will be much light shed on this for a while.
I'm wondering if the family reference has anything to do with Charles Kingsford Smith.
This could be in Brisbane.
Anyone interested in an ANA Avro at Eagle Farm airfield ?An ANA Avro came to grief at Eagle Farm in 1930
There were no surfaced runways at that time and
after heavy rain, the landing surface was very unsafe
https://www.ozatwar.com/efhist.htm
evansb
6th Nov 2018, 18:12
Is that aircraft an Avro 10 ?
It might be a Fokker, but the Southern Cross disappeared as did the Southern Cloud.
The Southern Cross disappeared? The Fokker F.VIIb/3m (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_F.VII) Southern Cross is now preserved in a special glass hangar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangar) memorial on Airport Drive, near the international terminal at Brisbane Airport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane_Airport). The Lady Southern Cross, a Lockheed Altair, disappeared in 1935.
mgahan
6th Nov 2018, 19:55
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/641x877/southern_cloud_story_1928_incident_bne_e304cc2945f548382917a c66922d9700cbf77721.jpg
Dook (#9517),
Very interested, particularly as to the source of the picture on the web page as I thought we had the only copy of the original hanging on the wall in Port Melbourne.
It is indeed Eagle Farm and the aircraft is the Southern Cloud.
My partner's grandfather was one of the team from the Ford Company involved in the "recovery" and many years later his son (Robert) used his skill as an artisan craftsman woodworker to build the wings used in Kidman's reconstruction. Some years ago I saw a "spare" wind at the HARS facility near Woolongong.
Two reference notes on the 1928 or 1930 (depending which version of history you chose to accept) to follow..
MJG
That took some finding - good job I'm retired !
Now you have a better quality picture of the Southern Cloud.
http://i65.tinypic.com/or169x.jpg
sidtheesexist
6th Nov 2018, 21:18
Long shot....Trincomalee?
Self loading bear
6th Nov 2018, 21:37
Short Sunderland!
my favorite Airfix model kit!
(38 years ago)
Also saw one of the few (only?) remaining in a museum in Florida.
23 years ago
But this is clearly a real one in flying condition and longer ago!
Will take some searching!
SLB
Self loading bear
6th Nov 2018, 21:58
Found your photo for sale on picclick/amazone.
Sunderland With registration PP107 1945 in the Far East.
But where?
still not any further as
“under a palm tree”
SLB
Self loading bear
6th Nov 2018, 22:19
Photo also found on Flickr
Koggala Ceylon
Cheers SLB
sidtheesexist is close with Trincomalee but slb has it with RAF Koggala.
slb has the thread.
Self loading bear
7th Nov 2018, 10:42
As promised my next one is a quickie
You have 3 minutes....
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1280x853/5faea3ef_d813_47eb_bb76_255d1aa70d9d_01fd54904653b74958bc4b3 ce64dffb28a2b02cc.jpeg
Cows getting bigger
7th Nov 2018, 10:44
Aalborg. Only the Danes would be so liberal. :)
Self loading bear
7th Nov 2018, 12:12
CGB,
And within 2 minutes
the stage is yours
SLB
Cows getting bigger
7th Nov 2018, 13:58
A small graveyard
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4908/43946244750_b9c062dc68_c.jpg
'artnoon Cgb.
It looks fairly small and civilian only. May I assume we are not in the USA ?
Cows getting bigger
7th Nov 2018, 15:06
You would assume correctly. Many of the aircraft seen wouldn't be found in the USA. Does this help?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1978/45767302561_1d4dbf3ee1_c.jpg
Somewhere in the far East or Russia ?
Cows getting bigger
7th Nov 2018, 15:28
No. Another part of the airport.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/45717317012_c8df89fe0a_c.jpg
In the past, notebooks and binoculars haven't been overly welcomed.
I think I see an Ilyushin Il-76 so maybe China.
Davidsoffice
7th Nov 2018, 15:55
Is that 747 an Iranian example? Iran would suit the mix of types
evansb
7th Nov 2018, 20:47
Regarding mgahans post #9520, the signed document states "The Southern Cloud was a sister ship to the Southern Cross and they are identical."
The Southern Cloud, built in 1930, was an Avro 618 "Ten" a licensed-built Fokker tri-motor. Avro modified the centre motor mounting to accommodate British airworthiness requirements. The Avro "Ten" was powered by more powerful 240-hp Armstrong Siddeley Lynx motors.
The Southern Cross, built in 1926, was a Fokker F.VIIb/3m, which began life as the "Detroiter", a Polar exploration aircraft of the Detroit News - Wilkins Arctic Expedition. The Fokker was powered by 3 Wright J-5 Whirlwinds, producing 220-hp each. Fokker also sourced some cockpit instruments from manufacturers different than those on the Avro.
Self loading bear
7th Nov 2018, 20:49
Wrong corner gentleman,
i saw Jet Asia plane on the overhead cut out.
Jet Asia HS-JAS has flown from Fujairah UAE to Malta to pick-up Libyan refugees.
Cheers SLB
Self loading bear
7th Nov 2018, 20:58
Regarding mgahans post #9520, the signed document states "The Southern Cloud was a sister ship to the Southern Cross and they are identical."
The Southern Cloud, built in 1930, was an Avro 618 "Ten" a licensed-built Fokker tri-motor. Avro modified the centre motor mounting to accommodate British airworthiness requirements. The Avro "Ten" was powered by more powerful 240-hp Armstrong Siddeley Lynx motors.
The Southern Cross, built in 1926, was a Fokker F.VIIb/3m, which began life as the "Detroiter", a Polar exploration aircraft of the Detroit News - Wilkins Arctic Expedition. The Fokker was powered by 3 Wright J-5 Whirlwinds, producing 220-hp each. Fokker also sourced some cockpit instruments from manufacturers different than those on the Avro.
Evansb
I saw the differences also. You can see the difference in:
the Armstrongs where 7 piston radials
The Wright’s were 9 cilinder engines.
I also think the cockpit window frames are wider and flatter on the Avros then on the Fokkers
SLB
Cows getting bigger
7th Nov 2018, 21:02
We're getting warmer. Many of the aircraft are painted white because of their previous roles although there has been little need for such activity here for a few generations.
Self loading bear
7th Nov 2018, 21:15
CGB,
My answer is Fujairah not Malta!
What is wrong With Fujairah?
i found the same fence!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x1334/0caccad3_1da2_44ce_9324_f0bdb2252d9d_6411b7f0944f586e3dd91c2 244ecfedc5684af67.png
There is nothing wrong with that at all.
I have checked it out in GE and your answer is correct.
Go ahead.
http://i66.tinypic.com/nqennn.jpg
Cows getting bigger
7th Nov 2018, 21:35
I prefer to call it OMFJ. The final clue was to be this, taken on last Thursday:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1913/45042327814_386e5956b7_c.jpg
Over to SLB
Self loading bear
7th Nov 2018, 21:45
Thanks CGB
I am off to bed after posting this remarkable feat of Air control.
which you do normally not see in civil aviation.
😜😜
SLB
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x705/33ce15fc_6634_46e0_90f5_69ae2a011b06_748befc2db17eb84e1af0bc 88508b22a90c13e49.jpeg
WIDN62
7th Nov 2018, 23:09
It looks like Europe and a military airfield - so based on your civil aviation comment, how about a joint civil/military airfield?
Italy maybe, but many of their runways are NW/SE. So maybe further north in Europe.
By the way, as you have posted an image from Google, that could be the same aircraft. It looks like an A330 to me.
evansb
8th Nov 2018, 00:45
Looks very similar in configuration to Skrydstrup Air Base, Vojens, Denmark, but the runway numbers are wrong. I think the aircraft might be U.S.N. Boeing P-8s.
Self loading bear
8th Nov 2018, 05:26
Looks very similar in configuration to Skrydstrup Air Base, Vojens, Denmark, but the runway numbers are wrong. I think the aircraft might be U.S.N. Boeing P-8s.
Not Italy
Skydstrup is much closer but still to far south.
I do not believe this is a P-8.
As international travel is only charter from here a 737 is more likely than a A330.
Indeed I think that the satellite travelled in the same direction as the aircraft taking off and snapped the plane twice.
SLB
Duchess_Driver
8th Nov 2018, 05:52
Only the Danes would be so liberal. https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/smile.gif
Not only the Danes... similari signs in Eindhoven, though I don’t think the have a time limit!
I think that the satellite travelled in the same direction as the aircraft taking off and snapped the plane twice.
SLB
This is airborne imagery, not satellite. GE uses both; as you zoom in, it switches from the latter to the former.
Self loading bear
8th Nov 2018, 11:38
Aarhus/Tirstrup.
Yes it is.
Go ahead!
SLB
I have operated from there and Skydstrup.
http://i65.tinypic.com/5kio1v.jpg
Looks like 1950's, Trans Canada Airlines so my best guess would be Montreal St-Hubert.
I cannot believe that nobody has now nailed it.
kenparry
8th Nov 2018, 16:02
Dorval? OH if right.
It is indeed, but a pity about the OH.
OH gentlemen.
kenparry
8th Nov 2018, 16:47
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/644x412/a40_bg_b451c7df1586fbf443ec66cf93e960d27c159de6.jpg
dook;
OK, in response to your very gentle rebuke, I offer this
That wasn't a rebuke in any way whatsoever.
kenparry
8th Nov 2018, 17:22
dook: OK; are you going to have a go?
Certainly. I'm looking.
737-2P6
Luton ?
Asturias56
8th Nov 2018, 18:34
A40 is an Omani registration
for some reason Fujeriah comes to mind......
No. It was originally leased from Gulf Air before it acquired it's UK registration.
Bedford truck.
kenparry
8th Nov 2018, 19:00
Luton is correct. Yes, Bedford flatbeds as baggage trucks.
A40-BG was dry-leased by Britannia from Gulf Air for 1979. An interesting aircraft, with significant differences from the normal Britannia aircraft in instruments and some systems.
Did it ever have a G- registration? My recollection is that it went back to Gulf Air at the end of the lease.
dook has control
My information is that it was re-registered as G-BGFS.
http://i67.tinypic.com/2emh1tx.jpg
kenparry
8th Nov 2018, 21:39
My information is that it was re-registered as G-BGFS.
dook: the above is shown in airfleets.net as valid from Dec 78 to Jan 80, though I flew it within that period when it was as in the photo, A40-BG. I suspect the reg was not taken up by Britannia.
On G-INFO, G-BGFS is shown as being a Westland Bell 47, the reg issued in March 1979.
Strange.
Allan Lupton
9th Nov 2018, 07:35
A pedant he say that Oman is A4O, not A40 which all the above seem to be.
As for the aerodrome the Comet prototype is visiting, without doing any research about route proving, I'll guess it's somewhere on the South Africa route - perhaps even Jan Smuts aerodrome at Johannesburg.
ETA I've remembered that it was the second prototype that BOAC used for route proving, not the first so that's 6002
Good ID on the second prototype, but it's not being used for route proving here, but another trial. South Africa is a long way from this location.
Go north Jenks, to where it's colder.....
oldpax
9th Nov 2018, 11:01
Helsinki .Airport.
jensdad
9th Nov 2018, 13:36
Not Finland either.
The Luftha... is very very clever :) I can't work out exactly which Lufthavn it is but I'll take a punt at Oslo Fornebu?
G-ARZG
9th Nov 2018, 14:05
...or Stockholm Bromma ?
jensdad has the right country but not the right airport.
We must be close now.
Jn14:6
9th Nov 2018, 14:56
Stavanger/Sola. OH if correct.
We have a winner.
The Comet was at Sola for icing trials.
OH
Evening Jenks.
under technically testing conditions, in an appropriately named machine
Tornado ?
My jet had four underwing hardpoints (and a large one on the centreline) and it only had a 28ft wingspan.
I don't think establishing your jet is going to help, but under technically testing conditions, in an appropriately named machine is intriguing.
It does not appear to be a large airport and the runway doesn't appear to be very long.
Caribbean maybe.
Cruise speed 135 knots !
I'm guessing it wasn't an RAF machine.
If it isn't the West Indies I'm now looking at the far east.
Self loading bear
9th Nov 2018, 19:02
RAF Belvedere ?
Not that it helps in searching!
SLB
A Belvedere with underwing pylons...….???
evansb
9th Nov 2018, 19:18
Guessing the aircraft flown was a Britten-Norman Defender, which was the military variant of the BN-2 Islander. Also guessing the locale may be south of the Equator...?
I'm also wondering if it was an aircraft working from the Philippines (not the airfield answer)
You may have missed my suggestion of the Pacific.
Self loading bear
9th Nov 2018, 19:42
I have found it but Tell us more about about the job with islanders in the great pacific.
Then post it please so we can stop looking.
We'll find out about what he was doing anyway.
Self loading bear
9th Nov 2018, 19:55
Moorea
I have nothing in store so OH but only after the true story.
SLB
Sounds like you had more variety in the RAF than I did.
As SLB declared OH, here's one from me
https://bszdkw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mc2YxpkDkE6pa8NEVeypOj6h8OTHXia9jNbS2bpxCtRMel1uCcsiTlgtEo xJQifBXGtqQ_nrej-1ZXAW6gt5xaq5gjyaaeG1COhbS6DJehqgfq6nTZlTIGeyxMi2QmUgIhm_TTe o6pMYu3btx7kuAJr24MmRe5I-Iln9MyVgZ9CaChrL3o3sN8POAJWaruzMnwnFCgD3R8P2sSps0X4k-tQ?width=1024&height=527&cropmode=none
Blimey - another aeroplane ID !
Sopwith yes, Daedalus No..
Looks like a Pup with no gun.
It is a Pup.
I have a side-on image of the same aircraft a couple of days earlier, and it has a gun, although in this photo it appears to have been removed.
chevvron
9th Nov 2018, 21:49
RNAS Worthy Down?
Somewhere in Kent maybe.
Walmer ?
sycamore
9th Nov 2018, 22:08
Jenks,did you have an Elsan fitted for that leg....?
chevvron
9th Nov 2018, 22:10
How about Shoreham? Lancing College just poking above the hilltop.
Self loading bear
10th Nov 2018, 06:06
Sir Sopwith is buried in Little Somborne in Hampshire.
i go for Middle Wallop.
Again OH if correct.
SLB
nvubu
10th Nov 2018, 07:30
Not in Hampshire either.
Here's the side-on (with gun) from a couple of days earlier.
https://argbia.db.files.1drv.com/y4ml59lrChp61jk68AyDqwM32jjj-HnQ62Eu3OEdaxTS9vKTqHYsrvojtg5jc_tBPJM5tgf2pivmdW2rqg4YAuJZT UkVuWhO1MMeebb727gc5KZDqfZRrMk1FMaaZZIAm4kJlBSaffnaCVtSsLl_6 1CtmQxO4ovAWSKNhi_9sCXcGg_rNGNI4SCez5OlAaAEPd-maJ6NQVxPwAOkpLHnmjOSA?width=1024&height=527&cropmode=none
I guess this gives away who is flying, and from that, the occasion, which may lead you to the location.
nvubu
10th Nov 2018, 08:27
Yes, Smoogro it is (thought that would make it easy). Over to you dook.
https://ppespw.db.files.1drv.com/y4m72M8YoIgJYG2WmagXnc4wOJsO6iL0EA8OdcAO_AyL1BUkFQEfVxZb14L1 gh3jQMLT9PhfwBVPGFAP5NzfHk9SsWCzYXNJ8WiOgcz5xurO0WvXqcWoIi9f 3chmWqkm_VMYkzHrv9FmbILOdTwDIrmwm45taPYjNnJIlRHxpKBVhJ7JAF7Z qUREENtsRTeMkqxzYvyA8Ty2sYLgYh3vUgbjg?width=1024&height=527&cropmode=none
Screen captures from "Captain Jack and the Furious Few (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bqs96t/captain-jack-and-the-furious-few?suggid=b0bqs96t)" on the BBC last week.
Many thanks - the second image did lead to a trail.
http://i68.tinypic.com/f53lzo.jpg
nvubu
10th Nov 2018, 09:26
Two airfields ?
longer ron
10th Nov 2018, 16:18
Good one Dook :)
Inskip ?
OH if correct
And a very good answer to boot. :D
OH
nvubu
10th Nov 2018, 17:52
Have another one from me to keep us going.
https://mpr3vq.db.files.1drv.com/y4m-E2GAKOB5RrV5DpcmmdVmS3NqHVOhuz8w7hFGJEI3sVGTh35jIje-LH1DW1W0PAhCx-zVRYf0s7Ac2UmOcv2aM28LoU4YOJ8ICqTA4DkmQebd2CVgo1EyYWeNAzfgI-pY6AcvXrFlSA67fWLyy5EJA0YN6TTEjsAzs7tyW_Epdvl3oSkEd98FT641qW tPKRpMAYXhmdxlQArBYGgKv-z0w?width=740&height=1024&cropmode=none
Well, that will certainly keep me going for a while.
sycamore
10th Nov 2018, 18:32
Snow ,or sandy..?
I've been asking myself that, and I'm shooting for snow, despite the fact that there isn't any on the vegetation.
nvubu
10th Nov 2018, 18:44
sandy wins the day.
https://0ingaw.db.files.1drv.com/y4mTltmENs17PEzMmiHnq5YTuy3wMsCLfHTEHdjoWbYvE7l1uXRLQoqDHJu-3PRaNwaG7ZFvHWwFu4fdm9ee03JrkAKKEztcCOGwSDnLAwfXEwiSh3PKXtwf G5ouydk56uiAIP8uY0PhXwzjWzFlETrq5asgPRRjFC1iHwPI7tknb2cAFHQl cJpkpV7mGlikq1etK2fFXTofoRwMGz-5kAAeA?width=1024&height=680&cropmode=none
Are we looking at some Seabees ?
nvubu
10th Nov 2018, 19:03
Yes, I think we are :ok:
We'll, I'll kick off.
Aslito ?
nvubu
10th Nov 2018, 20:08
Nope, not there.
nvubu
10th Nov 2018, 20:44
Not in the Marshall Islands
I think we're in an area where we have previously been.
nvubu
10th Nov 2018, 20:58
I don't remember being here before.
Self loading bear
10th Nov 2018, 21:50
I understand it is a place where there could also be snowy?
The Seabees build a northern Atlantic route via Newfoundland so I start with Argentia.
SLB
mgahan
10th Nov 2018, 22:35
Long shot, based on the first pic - Makin.
MJG
nvubu
11th Nov 2018, 07:05
It doesn't snow here, and we are not in the Pacific Ocean.
chevvron
11th Nov 2018, 09:58
Indian Ocean; Diego Garcia?
Nobody has suggested North Africa yet.
nvubu
11th Nov 2018, 12:21
chevron has it. Diego Garcia it is - Images are of the South Runway being built.
https://aqjtpq.db.files.1drv.com/y4mv0Y77uk3zv9V5el9N4IUfeV3VBCONP0hIvUaxYmwIj41OxzmZORomGDvA k4TOBQ0N6DSDTs1Gq67NOI3NNebMwgaBMpBJuyjIVyyTwrIOG7Nngnn-GZjf2_Gw-seyK7tw05EreQvekMyDjGReYP9ZIRWqL7Urv_bE6r8A0ZFAM9YSSCD33WqXq MlFX_kf6y5OouZSAB--gibQBiG2PxJzA?width=1024&height=680&cropmode=none
How on earth did you find that ?
nvubu
11th Nov 2018, 14:23
me or chevron ?
nvubu
11th Nov 2018, 14:53
I've got access to some good sources - here's another image:
https://bw2gwa.db.files.1drv.com/y4m2M3jd5jDJcrurfDo2r8JyXAF0GPy7snTUwE_Goa9E28mMQ7NF9p7CR2O4 XHfvfzu1d-Oo5_qTS-dzZn2gVJA_e1ZFMwDWHhHpS6JZX7jgykOA15if7xOY-YItxoDyvRVH6j7oMg-b_tcbNPeHqcauGFIHc_4iLWf-04NMPQXdwyENO0_iaSbifOu2uAIeXK1PQaNGOH2lPO5jJX3zlAM2w?width= 1024&height=467&cropmode=none
I've also just found a couple of good sources.
I trust yours above isn't a challenge.
nvubu
11th Nov 2018, 15:30
No - same place, Diego Garcia again, just found it in the same book, thought it worth posting in addition as I think it's before any real work started.
chevron has control.
evansb
11th Nov 2018, 20:55
A gentle reminder. Using Google Image Search is NOT allowed. Thank you. Using your resourceful and industrious intellect is allowed.
chevvron
12th Nov 2018, 03:54
How on earth did you find that ?
'When you have eliminated the impossible (Pacific and Atlantic), anything that is left, however improbable, (Indian) must be the truth'.
Looked like Pacific Ocean but nvubu said it wasn't so that ruled out a vast area of the globe; nothing like that in the Atlantic so I took a guess at Indian Ocean. We had Gan recently so it wasn't there, and having visited Plaisance and Mahe, I knew it wasn't either of those.
Open House.
India Four Two
12th Nov 2018, 05:20
When you have eliminated the impossible ...
chevvron, do you wear a deer-stalker when you are sleuthing? :)
chevvron
12th Nov 2018, 08:37
chevvron, do you wear a deer-stalker when you are sleuthing? :)
No but I sometimes wear an FC Barcelona cap;)
I'll have to get one of those then.
I'm not sure who the post by evansb is aimed at or why.
Morning/afternoon all.
I'm intrigued by the word "influential".
Shackman
12th Nov 2018, 11:08
Looks very like Defford to me - home of TRE (Radar and Research Establishment during WWII)
Shackman
12th Nov 2018, 11:54
Pershore - only for a few days whilst the boffins did some polar diagrams for the (radio) aerial fit on the AEW Shack (repeated a couple of years later at Boscombe when they added more radios!). Of note a relative died when flying out of Defford when his Halifax suffered what became known as rudder reversal and spun in during a radar trial.
Talking of Shackletons, here's a Flight Lieutenant's landing (see SLB's post #9470 re the Colonel's landing) - only two (ish) stripes.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/481x640/centre_line_skid_f406497e410fe862c22578df67f3720d72097b2a.jp g
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Looks pretty flat.
Was that landing at it's operating base ?
Shackman
12th Nov 2018, 12:30
Was/is flat.
Not a usual operating base.
Not very popular (with the locals)!
A remote part of Scotland maybe.
Shackman
12th Nov 2018, 12:57
Go South young man.
(And I should have said not very popular with the resident Squadrons)
There were several places like that back in my flying days.
Perhaps the Welsh coast.
Shackman
12th Nov 2018, 13:08
Not the Welsh side either.
(And it was the landing that wasn't popular!)
Must be for a good reason then.
We could put our jets down anywhere, including grass if the need arose.
Another shot - East Anglia ?
Shackman
12th Nov 2018, 13:25
Very nearly.
Still active, still noisy.
I'm now looking towards Lincolnshire.
Shackman
12th Nov 2018, 13:29
The final clue - it still has a lot of 'proper' noise as well
I can only think of Coningsby, with noisy jets and some Merlins.
Shackman
12th Nov 2018, 13:41
Correct on all counts but it could have been any airfield anywhere. Not popular because it was late on a Friday afternoon, a Taceval scramble has just occurred and the only diversion was Leeming - and there was a VVIP Dining In night. We had to go and hide in the local pub!
All yours
Cheers. Indeed it could have been anywhere, but you stayed around and answered questions.
I forgot to say there's the odd Griffon there as well. My wife's first tour as a controller.
How about this one.
http://i64.tinypic.com/2q3dld0.jpg
Shackman
12th Nov 2018, 13:57
Switzerland?
chevvron
12th Nov 2018, 14:23
Bournemouth?
Not Switzerland and not UK.
sycamore
12th Nov 2018, 16:22
Sweden...?
The southern hemisphere part of a big country.
Nuvver clew ?
Wot a shot.
Also known as Salisbury.
Your throttles. :ok:
Do I see what is/was a go-kart track ?
chevvron
12th Nov 2018, 19:22
I don't follow rugby but it's Llandow and open house. Was a satellite of St Athan (hence the 'L' type hangars) and there was a taxiway between the 2 airfields.
Kart (NOT go-kart) circuit and main circuit for other race cars.
Dunno how some of you chaps find these.
Rolling...….
http://i66.tinypic.com/iqh72r.jpg
chevvron
12th Nov 2018, 20:13
Sorry can't quite make out the name you haven't photo-shopped out!:rolleyes:
But I don't think it's the name that's why.
chevvron
12th Nov 2018, 20:19
It's next to the station circle which is the normal place. Take a look at satellite photos of Halton; there it's actually in the circle.
sycamore
12th Nov 2018, 20:54
Start of a King`s Cup air race..Hatfield...?
jensdad
12th Nov 2018, 22:41
I know you said that you don't think the name next to the station circle is the name of the airfield, but that doesn't say 'Ringway' does it?
Self loading bear
12th Nov 2018, 22:49
Could it be Liverpool during the grand national at Aintree?
SLB
Morning all.
Not Ringway but Liverpool is getting close, but a little too far north.
If you mean Pendeford you need to go east and a tad north.
Another clue if needed.
sycamore
13th Nov 2018, 09:09
Chester aka Hawarden
From Pendeford I suggested going east not west.
Does anyone need a clue ?
chevvron
13th Nov 2018, 13:14
Does anyone need a clue ?
Not unLeice(ster) you wish to give us one (aka 'Ratcliffe'; the name next to the circle)
Open House!
NB Credit to www.ukairfieldguide.net (https://www.pprune.org/www.ukairfieldguide.net) which has 4 superb piccys taken in 1935; dook's picture I would guess was taken at the 1937 airshow as it shows HP 42 'Heracles'.
Self loading bear
13th Nov 2018, 18:07
This one should not be difficult.
photo from my sons Quest magazine.
SLB
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/d7f6a3c6_7446_42f0_93f4_1dcbe578d41f_f176eea309ca5914c5d4be6 e2811f073cc9749d6.jpeg
Where did your challenge go JENKS ?
Self loading bear
13th Nov 2018, 20:41
Teuge it is.
predominantly used as para Centre.
Jenks you can pull your challenge from your sleeve.
SLB
There are times when I think I have the intelligence of a mealworm. :\
Cows getting bigger
13th Nov 2018, 21:08
Eaglescott. My log book says last visited on 24 Aug 2006.
India Four Two
14th Nov 2018, 03:17
There are times when I think I have the intelligence of a mealworm. https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/wibble.gif
Not what I expected to hear from a WIWOL! :)
We mellow in our old age.
http://i63.tinypic.com/2i1ox7m.jpg
nvubu
14th Nov 2018, 12:29
Entebbe ?
kenparry
14th Nov 2018, 12:59
Vehicles look to be WW2 vintage. Indian subcontinent?
Not India either but you're moving in the right direction.
chevvron
14th Nov 2018, 13:17
Christmas Island? (Pure guessif it's east of India)
India Four Two
14th Nov 2018, 13:25
How about Borneo?
kenparry
14th Nov 2018, 15:16
Is it Kuching?
You are now 110 miles away. :)
kenparry
14th Nov 2018, 16:01
OK. There's a problem in that my atlas and Google earth have very different opinions on where there are airports in that part of the world.
Are we in Sarawak? If so, Bandar Udara Pangsuma looks to be about 110 miles from Kuching and is on fairly flat ground.
That is in Indonesia and we are in Malaysia.
Some refer to it as Sarawak.
Google Earth is quite accurate in distance measurement as it measures great circle values.
kenparry
14th Nov 2018, 16:20
There is a somewhat derelict strip at Kapit. N2.00, E112.56 Am I going the right sort of direction?
Bandar Udara Pangsuma is 160 miles from Kuching.
Our posts have just crossed - standby please.
You have gone too far east now.
This airfield was originally built by the Japanese in WW2. There is now a modern airport close to there.
Well, you have the first letter correct...…..
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 16:34
Sibu, I would surmise
At last.
I feel that JENKINS and kenparry might be peeved.
All yours grizzled.
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 16:58
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/668x475/pprune_nov_14e_73e26190742e9d38771fa991f3305005cccbbae3.jpg
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 17:39
The old workhorse MI-24s here are hard to spot -- even if you`ve flown into or out of this place. But there are six or seven of these other ubiquitous old Soviet aircraft that can be easily seen. Yup, still today...
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/573x406/pprune_nov_14_2e_6ea6b9171622a98689a84756e3f6d3b6edb16f6f.jp g
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 17:46
Jenkins: Yes you may.
But we`re not in the Middle East... https://www.pprune.org/images/infopop/icons/icon7.gif
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 17:59
If it doesn`t look familiar to anybody or we don`t get close in the next hours I`ll post a photo showing more of the operational area of the airport
And my next is Czech Republic.
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 18:37
Jenkins is closer than Dook
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 18:58
If we need another photo clue I'll have to crop any photo that shows the control tower -- as it's unique...
Asturias56
14th Nov 2018, 19:07
Eritrea?? Or maybe s Sudan ??
Uganda ?
Most control towers are unique.
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 19:17
Dook is closer now. The Soviet sphere of influence (as we called it during the Cold War) extended far past Europe and Asia. This place is almost as far from Moscow as Havana is.
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 19:24
Even though some international cariers serve this airport the runway could use some TLC...
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/618x527/apex_oct_2012_3e_1c0e54fe965b0e0666d94d5a237fd9e67f706cda.jp g
Self loading bear
14th Nov 2018, 19:25
Harare Zimbabwe?
SLB
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 19:29
Not Zimbabwe
sycamore
14th Nov 2018, 19:32
Bishoftu,Ethiopia..?
evansb
14th Nov 2018, 19:37
Luanda, Angola ?
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 19:42
obviously evansb and dook both had light bulbs illuminate at the same time re soviet sphere and Africa... :)
Dook chose the right one with Mozambique
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 20:30
Those unfamiliar with the ways of Africa would be surprised that Vilankulo airport is in better shape than this one.
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 22:02
Nope. More detail...
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1377x1033/apex_oct_2012_4e_93c489de64ed8f1b147e792e697a9aec28d652dd.jp g
Terry Dactil
14th Nov 2018, 22:41
How about Nampula ?
That has RWY 23.
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 22:48
Good guess Terry!
But no...
You're all gonna kick yourselves....
jensdad
14th Nov 2018, 22:59
I'm not remotely familiar with that part of the world, but my pub-quiz geographical knowledge tells me that Maputo is the capital of said country. wikipedia tells me that its airport has a runway 23? :)
grizzled
14th Nov 2018, 23:05
Hahaha! Your pub-quiz knowledge pays off, jensdad!
So, as we say in the pub -- it's your shout!
Here's a view of the distinctive control tower I mentioned earlier...
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/612x506/apex_arffe_d95f6325286194138ccfdde386da09834095d591.jpg
jensdad
14th Nov 2018, 23:10
Thanks, grizzled. That tower looks a bit like a larger-scale version of Alderney's!
I have nothing ready, so Open House :)
Self loading bear
15th Nov 2018, 08:53
I am kicking myself for not answering Maputo last night.
I thought you already gave Dook the credits.
Anyway it wasn’t me this time by snatching it away just before Dook.
I do not have something in store either, so still Open House
SLB
kenparry
15th Nov 2018, 09:01
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1664x1125/01groapron1986_993c393f4bfb26d2a3d4686b07598a895b6703f1.jpg
OK, try this one:
India Four Two
15th Nov 2018, 09:34
Iberia steps? Spain?
kenparry
15th Nov 2018, 11:21
Yes and yes
kenparry
15th Nov 2018, 12:42
Yes, the best first question. Mainland.
Alicante and Almeria are fairly flat and Britannia operated from those.
However, I bet it's more obscure.
The other jet is America West Airlines but that doesn't help.
Flap40
15th Nov 2018, 15:01
It looks more like Girona to me.
kenparry
15th Nov 2018, 15:14
Well, a weird experience the last half hour or so. I've been out briefly, and on trying to log on again kept getting messages about DDoS, and unable to load the website. Anyone else get the same? Then suddenly OK again.
Back to the chase. I think the America West 737 must have been on lease to a European carrier, so it's a bit of a red herring.
Neither of the above guesses, but I would not describe it as obscure. There would often be 3-4 BAL aircraft there together.
kenparry
15th Nov 2018, 15:17
We crossed. Flap 40 is correct. Many Gerona flights were at night - I had been going there for several years before seeing it in daylight, and was then amazed to see the very deep dip between runway and parallel taxiway. And amazed that it was acceptable.
Flap40
15th Nov 2018, 15:50
Thanks. Open House Im afraid.
G-ARZG
15th Nov 2018, 16:41
Is this Lelystad ? Open huis !
Evening all.
http://i65.tinypic.com/23uemg1.jpg
Self loading bear
15th Nov 2018, 17:19
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x1334/905b7355_8e31_4cd3_9927_fc57688494c4_4fe6bc4e04a1e7dece9e098 798940e9d37438dfd.png
In Lelystad there is an nice restaurant with terrace on top of Martinair vliegschool
Recommended.
SLB
G-ARZG
15th Nov 2018, 17:49
I agree with SLB, good eats....meanwhile, back in Vienna Schwechat?
(going for '2 for 2')
G-ARZG
15th Nov 2018, 18:09
But no cigar.https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x1024/screenshot_2018_11_15_19_07_57_001_eb89657b54f283379918e4f38 a353e3ce5cdebba.jpeg
G-ARZG
15th Nov 2018, 18:10
Cigar please...
The wonderful world of the web.
I have it as Linz- Horsching (Vogler air base), but you photo is convincing.
Please take it.