Which Aerodrome Mk III

[India Four Two]

nvubu,

Tricycle gear not necessarily required. ;)


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/842x460/me262_taildragger_abf25be594218aa6b347029f4dbaa5f1bb0234e3.j pg

I remember reading that Me262s were first identified by PRU because of the scorch marks on the grass, created by the early Schwalben.

[nvubu]

I think it had changed over to tricycle a fair time before these photos were taken - wiki says 5th prototype.

[Allan Lupton]

I think it had changed over to tricycle a fair time before these photos were taken - wiki says 5th prototype.
as does William Green!
However I think the scorched grass tale does have a reasonable pedigree but I can't lay hands on it

[nvubu]

The building at the top of the two previous images can be seen in the next image - the other builds are a little obscured.

https://qc29ug.am.files.1drv.com/y4mJ2QrrdczDDGpJY-sZyixbijbp2nFkNDN8AsB4YngItpZqes1hhQhWl53ifzVJfEAQn3yfT1NLSo pCRGELZsmPt6nGO3-QwL1BNhpzCfLC3SIAY-cEcnJUDxgiQwDQ253waH0aex1hZAndlta2CmXKDP4__U7__3Fb6ocoyotz8v 2prBSZLm95MaTk8Jzyut0OJrkoozcDmOoH6gRPgBBpw?width=1024&height=710&cropmode=none

[India Four Two]

However I think the scorched grass tale does have a reasonable pedigree but I can't lay hands on it

I think I might have read it in R. V. Jones' magnificent book "Most Secret War".

[Asturias56]

Are we in France?

[nvubu]

No, not France.

https://kfsfya.am.files.1drv.com/y4ms8Lt29iH3JzqjNnXQu1-S-thFt4783y-MI2z7xKF4XEMC0LL056qfsbe8gLWem_jjaygYf8VSQVcEHCnMi9AwwJimR39 0114liOoPfPi7cIO8JEwm2wRNb3xjsckg9PejtZzib5nnUSTDlIn7shKH7T1 qucsUcmJaSuunoyfY3g9eghdRrgS-q1twpq4BAINdCF0rTXGNy5dZK1-p6DP2w?width=770&height=1024&cropmode=none

[chevvron]

Rechlin???

[dook]

Possibly AUGSBURG Messerschmitt factory airfield.

[nvubu]

dook has it with Ausburg Haunstetten - the Messerschmidt factory airfield. I'm fairly sure that the aircraft are Me 410s.

Rudolf Hess left from here for Scotland in 1941.

Here's an overlay for Google Earth - c (https://www.gearthhacks.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/112207/%20Messerschmitt%20Aircraft%20Plant%20in%20Augsburg-Haunstetten%2011%20August%201944%20[22350)lick no worky - here is the full link https://www.gearthhacks.com/downloads/messerschmitt-aircraft-plant-in-augsburg-haunstetten-11-august-1944/

A winter photo,
https://k9dgag.am.files.1drv.com/y4mvzrfgSdwi8Qy6Y0QhhdGTWG1R6x_03TjiJvh1ylaSCt1rKkWl2fKcmxkU 8Gxa4VgCIACX21rGVV4O16aSQX47QnEvGZ9nV-qg6VYJn5gXCMcjcDseMudezpLq8a7boiutNaR2HGBKxXqLSxRuuKQ3N0W1r8 kRM2ku7Fo7HaLdWBA1F2FDJhKuQclTEfLmNNnxLg6LHVvrphH5aUrUTEIRQ? width=660&height=508&cropmode=none

[dook]

Thank you nvubu.

I am monitoring two other threads at the moment so OH.

[India Four Two]

I've been here, but not flown from this location:


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/607x270/wad_2020_03_29_e75c8d2abfa41ccbd79c4c8308cb0af65b1a18d7.jpg

[mgahan]

The float base at Vancouver?

MJG

[India Four Two]

Not British Columbia.

[Asturias56]

I've been here I think - we spent a night there about 30 years back - is it Los Angeles in Washington State? I think it or the port area featured in Hunt for Red October??

You can just see the "Coast Guard" label on the hangar - and I detected a weasel factor in "not in British Columbia....."

[India Four Two]

is it Los Angeles in Washington State?

5/10 but close enough. It's the US Coast Guard station on Ediz Hook spit at Port Angeles. It was the first permanent US CG Air Station on the West Coast, established in 1935. The hangar and the admin building are still there.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x600/port_angeles_cg_3af53b8b0566b814df89a5a2eddf81ad01d78567.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x532/port_angeles_cg_view_c88c9bff21ff679678c6a1e1181891342223f9b 5.jpg


I drove out to have a look while waiting to catch the Coho ferry to Victoria last August. Nice views from the spit, but you can't see much of the base from the gate!

and I detected a weasel factor in "not in British Columbia....."

I was tempted to say "Not on the West Coast" if asked! ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_Guard_Air_Station_Port_Angeles

Asturias has control.

PS The amphibian in front of the hangar looks like a Douglas Dolphin. What's the biplane flying overhead?

[Self loading bear]

PS The amphibian in front of the hangar looks like a Douglas Dolphin. What's the biplane flying overhead?

NAF PN-7???

[India Four Two]

Slb, I think you are right. I had never heard of the PN flying boats, but it looked awfully familiar, which I now put down to having found out that the PN series were a development of the Felixstowe flying boats.


For Asturias:
The transfer of Ryan from helicopter to submarine was filmed in the area of the Juan de Fuca Strait and Puget Sound at Port Angeles, Washington State. The area is supposedly renowned for its mists and rain but, wouldn't you know it?, production was held up by day after day of bright sunshine.

[Asturias56]

The reason it stuck in my memory was that we stayed at a very upmarket "B&B" in a large converted house there - all was fine until the breakfast when the guests discovered that the 2 lady owners had been at the sauce overnight and were still drunk as lords..... it was a very Faulty Towers meal................. :p

Let us try this one

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/571x484/2020_03_28_164321_d43e7e9bf0b1a828217154491a5705ac53cc46cd.j pg

[jensdad]

Hmmm. an interesting one. Airbridges but a distinct lack of traffic. The landscape looks Australia-ish.

[India Four Two]

The altimeter is showing 100'. Is this an airfield near sea-level or is it in a country that still uses QFE?

[John Eacott]

Reminiscent of so many Australian Airports; could almost be Perth some 30-40 years ago?

[Asturias56]

The altimeter is showing 100'. Is this an airfield near sea-level or is it in a country that still uses QFE?

I42 - I honestly don't know but it isn't near the sea................ airport is over 250 m AMSL they do a fair bit of helicopter training there

[Asturias56]

Reminiscent of so many Australian Airports; could almost be Perth some 30-40 years ago?


Definitely NOT in Australia John - but agree as to the look of the place. Quite busy and "international" in the name but I think there are only internal flights operating normally. It was opned post 2000

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/326x291/2020_03_28_164044_98c26bbda747fdebca9011c967f48abdb9b972c0.j pg

[nvubu]

Spain or Italy?

[Asturias56]

neither................ quite a large town/city but not very famous....

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/155x148/2020_03_28_164221_2f07bc4dabb8dd8d5a5d609c8312e7ae7a407832.j pg

[Asturias56]

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/234x413/2020_03_28_163827_94e48bd604d6d8ff93b44affd18c465871e78080.j pg

[chevvron]

Santiago di Compostela?

[Asturias56]

You know I did that one last month............ ;)

I guess one airport waiting area IS pretty much the same as the next - but this is a longer walk than SCQ should you wish to visit - a lot longer walk.........

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/278x239/2020_03_28_163058_ff0660aaee0a53ef5ee1eb296cd417005195a9b6.j pg

[dook]

Mazatlán International Airport ?

[chevvron]

Asturias??

[dook]

Mazatlán looks the part on GE.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/482x552/capture_afeafecb2cff89a9588a128aeeb970a4a2a20375.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Asturias??

Asturias used to be out for long diners.
But with the current lock downs.....

[India Four Two]

The elevation fits as well:
Elevation is 38.0 feet MSL.

[Auxtank]

Come on Asters.
Mark dook's homework.

[Asturias56]

Apologies - I have mixed up two airports in my never-ending series of Great Places in Latin America you've never heard of......

but the picture DOOK has identified IS Maxtalan - so over to him and I'll go away and hide.................. :uhoh:

[chevvron]

Apologies - I have mixed up two airports in my never-ending series of Great Places in Latin America you've never heard of......

but the picture DOOK has identified IS Maxtalan - so over to him and I'll go away and hide.................. :uhoh:
No don't hide, just self immolate sorry I meant isolate!

[dook]

Good morning campers.

Please accept OH.

[Asturias56]

Irrational exuberance caused by lock-down.............. tho TBH , like S Pacific Airfields of WW2 the GPLAYNHO are much of a muchness to the untutoured eye............

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/248x203/download_9a6b220ddbab4057e4a2c332064b0dfd8baee350.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Open house:
Is a rather cold affair in this location:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/696x876/a1e32d01_07d5_4c7e_b5b1_46fe44b8465a_e9a057b596bfacc1e45e3ed e54537d21f2720075.jpeg

[Asturias56]

North America Bear?

[Self loading bear]

North America Bear?

No grizzly bears

[dook]

More likely Russia.

[dook]

Geilo Lufthavn Dagali

[Self loading bear]

Geilo Lufthavn Dagali

Not exactly Russia but Dook is correct with Geilo dagali

[dook]

I simply Googled "wooden control tower" and one image came up with the name on it which you erased.

OH

[broadreach]

And a quiet fell over the land....

[mgahan]

We are awake here mid Pacific.

There is a strong link with at least one Asian city.

MJG

[mgahan]

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x426/ba_747_095094a2fb7a8d8ccb428f068ea36229c33b1c66.jpg

[Flap40]

I'll have a wild stab in the dark and say Halim Perdanakusuma in Jakarta.

[India Four Two]

Flap40,

Too hilly for HLP. Jakarta is basically built on a mangrove swamp and is rapidly sinking into it!

[mgahan]

India 42 is correct - the Dutch learnt little from the Amsterdam experiment when they went to the East Indies! I watched the flooding in 2013 from my 39 th floor apartment and could see the extent of Jakarta which is effectively below sea level.

Back to the challenge: . In addition to the Asian city link there is also a link to Germany and Britain in the next Century.
.

MJG

[sycamore]

MJG,and now they have plans to go to Kalimantan and wipe out a forest and `remake` Jakarta there.....!!

[mgahan]

The local area name contains a cardinal point reference as does the name of the wider governance area.

MJG

[jensdad]

Hi mgahan, when you say there's a link to Germany and Britain in the next century, do you mean the 22nd century, or the century after the one in which there was the link to another Asian city? Hope that rather convoluted question makes sense :)

[mgahan]

Yes, makes sense and I was going to clarify later today.

The link to the Asian city is in the 18th Century and the links to Germany and Britain in the 19th.

MJG

[jensdad]

My first thought is that it's got something to do with the Hanoverians. I know BA 747's used to operate trooping flights to Germany, but I've been to Hanover and it didn't look much like that when I was there. I think I might well be barking up the wrong tree here!

[mgahan]

Barking up the wrong tree? Well that could be the start of another clue: trees and language spoken in a city in Italy many, many years ago but that area would be a distance from this airport although the airport could be used for international access.

A simpler clue would be to say the Britain clue relates to royalty.
MJG

I do have a layout drawing for Holy Saturday, if the challenge goes that long. as there is also a Christianity link to the city which is served by the airport.

[jensdad]

Regarding the cardinal points in the local area name and the wider governance area: Western Cape in South Africa? Could it be Cape Town? Although I've no idea how the other clues fit in! I need to sleep and then work so I'll find out a lot later today if I'm barking up the correct tree this time...

[mgahan]

You are in the correct hemisphere. You have both of the cardinal points correct.and both relate, but in different senses to the difference in latitude or longitude between Capetown and the city served by this airport.

Enjoy the sleep. I'm signing off in an hour or so here in my COVID-19 case free Kiribati environment to have a few beers before we run out!

MJG
.

[kcockayne]

Could it be Windhoek ?

[JENKINS]

Dar es Salaam?

[Archer4]

Kigali Airport?

[mgahan]

Wrong way folk: head South and East if you want to find the airport in question.

Go back and look at the hills in the BA picture..

MJG

[broadreach]

The hills seem to fit Wonderboom, Pretoria.

[evansb]

Old Port Moresby airport in Waigani, New Guinea?

[mgahan]

Evans is closer but too far in one direction and the wrong way in the other. He may have also used the obvious airfield feature in one of the pictures to situate the regulatory regime.

MJG .

[jensdad]

Darwin could fit some of the clues: Charles of that name was active in Britain in the 19th century. There are cardinal points in the names of the territory (Northern Territories) and the country (Australia: 'Australis' being Latin for 'Southern'). But MJG has already told us that the cardinal points are West and South.

I'm confused and probably barking up another incorrect tree!

[mgahan]

Getting closer.
Ignore the Boeing in the second picture and connect the background and foreground.

I'll post the historic layout picture tomorrow (on Holy Day which will satisfy the Christian connection)..

MJG
Collation of clues; This city has an early connection with a city in Asia, and a German and British connection in the very early days. These is still a very strong German connection. Cardinal points in local and wider area names (West and South) also give clues to geographic location with respect to Capetown (although one is direct and the other is reversed). . "trees" and language from long ago in Italy could provide a clue as the city may also be an international connection to an area associated with those thoughts. .

[dook]

Is it Beirut ?

[mgahan]

Because the city has a strong Christian connection in the reference often associated with it, here, on Holy day in the Easter weekend is a layout.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x620/early_short_03417e53910eac9b442755e434764341c8283e62.jpg

[chimbu warrior]

Is that Adelaide (the "City of Churches"? If so it was obviously taken a few years ago.

OH if correct.

[mgahan]

Yes
ADELAIDE - The City of churches. The airport is in the suburb of WEST Beach in SOUTH Australia. Named after the German lass who was consort to William IV and now with a significant German population (particularly in the hills). Penang shares a family link with Col Light, who designed the layout of Adelaide being the son of Francis Light, the founder of Penang.

I thought the gable markers in the B747 pic would lead folk quickly towards Australia but you wandered all over Southern Africa.

Jensdad - I was trying to use your tree comment to lead to the Nullabor Plain but I failed miserably.

OH it is.

[jensdad]

Ah, I did think of Adelaide for the royal connection, but I couldn't make any of the other clues stick (I must admit, I didn't realise she was German!). Just to put my mind at rest, what is the connection with a language spoken in Ancient Italy?

Great challenge, MJG. And a happy Easter to you!

[mgahan]

Jensdad - I was trying to use your tree comment to lead to the Nullabor Plain but I failed miserably. Nullabor being Latin for no trees.

MJG

[jensdad]

Ah yes, I get it: Nullarbor being derived from the Latin for 'no trees'!

[jensdad]

Sorry, messages crossed there :) I had heard of the Nullarbor Plain but always thought it was an Aboriginal word. Amazing the things you learn on this thread!

[India Four Two]

For many years, me too, Jensdad!

It has the world’s longest straight railway track - 478 miles!

[John Eacott]

For many years, me too, Jensdad!

It has the world’s longest straight railway track - 478 miles!

Try riding a motorbike: "In 1,200 kilometres make a left turn"

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1600x1200/1200km_make_left_turn_eb64caacb6693f393401c3e154a6770391d4f6 4d.jpg

We supported an oil exploration drill off Eucla, near the WA/SA border. Two S61Ns and we doubled the population: bore water for the settlement, and 1 litre of fresh water/day for 'personal' use. Forrest was the nearest airstrip, alongside the railway line, and I've refuelled there a few times.

Talk about beyond the black stump: but the challenge was pre 1970-ish when the road was unsealed, and not unheard of for smaller cars to disappear in some of the hidden holes full of bull dust.

[jensdad]

Try riding a motorbike: "In 1,200 kilometres make a left turn"

We supported an oil exploration drill off Eucla, near the WA/SA border. Two S61Ns and we doubled the population: bore water for the settlement, and 1 litre of fresh water/day for 'personal' use. Forrest was the nearest airstrip, alongside the railway line, and I've refuelled there a few times.

Talk about beyond the black stump: but the challenge was pre 1970-ish when the road was unsealed, and not unheard of for smaller cars to disappear in some of the hidden holes full of bull dust.

Reading that while sitting in lockdown in a flat in Newcastle (upon Tyne, not NSW) it sounds strangely exotic, but I'm guessing the novelty wore off after a couple of days, John :)

[India Four Two]

We supported an oil exploration drill off Eucla, near the WA/SA border. Two S61Ns and we doubled the population: bore water for the settlement, and 1 litre of fresh water/day for 'personal' use.

That brings back memories. I was involved in exploration drilling in south-central Queensland in the 80s. One day, I was driving by an abandoned exploration well that had been completed as a water well in the Precipice Sandstone, which is the main reservoir in the Great Artesian Basin. In school in Britain in the 50s, I was fascinated by this source of water - I had visions of gushing springs of wonderful fresh water.

I parked, walked over to the well head and sampled the "bore water" via a convenient tap. It was disgusting - sulphurous and tasting of unpleasant mineral salts. It ruined my idyllic dream!

[nvubu]

And for the next mystery aerodrome

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[Cubs2jets]

Based on the equipment, USA?

[nvubu]

This aerodrome is not in the USA, but is being built overseas.

https://nempig.am.files.1drv.com/y4mLA9xyvLJKxcImR3dtYMNTfPxibi8GbEIVpD7BfMIYvfB-sVMA4T4Og_sVIy90Dt0Bf4o-KMy5JtcxtnlIFe5IkmwYvMtIxk2XIwzTwT04y_jab2LLzWKly1YEhsIWeArK YlRRG_u7t9pwiWVM1mPZVTqW87f4H9FwVkC8NvCXjXL1T_hWv8NQWyucmROe SYKycIZbWRLjAXGuWvZYKtOVA?width=1024&height=747&cropmode=none

[Self loading bear]

This aerodrome is not in the USA, but is being built overseas.



Overseas as from your point of view!

[dixi188]

Looks like a T2 hangar being assembled, so is it British?

[nvubu]

Overseas from the USA, and yes it is in the UK.

Google Image Search identifies this as an Indian Rhinoceros :)
https://ziuyog.am.files.1drv.com/y4mRYqTWc8Nr0so5xYlo96mWDG91a-4qNNRK_axG_DoPsCTFhJWGFjKLI-gnOmRPQi-ICB6ByA48SYzLnhUXU5WIkauzmWSY9FTJJJk83Bns0G8iJcPrwT4rkJc9ueJ tdH0BuTeQmpjEpnR3npjlHKvX_zU671L4xjAzj2IFNoPA3-mv7yxNhpuMILN1GDNqPzkpNAWTjxdOB7-dQV6GK96MA?width=811&height=1024&cropmode=none

[nvubu]

Could get a bit wet

https://ktdgag.am.files.1drv.com/y4m0gTyDlgHbEc_0U2IJ5Q8n7ZTYCuYIJ3K0LG_9n77rDxEq-GkyUi6e-DTwTQCIRmaNGy9hamjGNP-7bc79HkE5EcVE8d5kpp9sx0i-JbdTmherqOD55a6k1gzUGXb3_IJUGWP8-blIYO4CuTX4BululvDfArc8m-29F1BrLMZ49lWR4odXheJj16R14ZkvuQogKFwh1X601Gx1G3-qr4gUw?width=1024&height=738&cropmode=none

[sycamore]

Zummersett-shire....?

[nvubu]

I can see where you are coming from, but it isn't in in that fine county.

https://j1seya.am.files.1drv.com/y4msUz3d0M3f0pNlPZwCF8d4WqNp0r4MvLqiUyrX_JbTxKlDk5AjbgPRXvwn AhmLBMeWvhGDmyrDDuQ3i7NB5WnFrsD0vbZOnMXqfNDmUKJCPUoDnwEH85tR OIjb5y1Pa6f-9MvihnezjyxioniYklTgoTofYXIvVy1EseLuk1ALCJaDjXFFM_N5jtmEZ7SW S2PYxxdBP9DgYYAnsiNpeiEIQ?width=1024&height=732&cropmode=none

I'll provide an aerial photo either later tonight or in the morning.

[nvubu]

Aerial as promised

https://of5qxq.am.files.1drv.com/y4mWyxDgPKumEy2M0ngn-RKJrZu-c5A8AswSE8hildxzWZsM9R232Z_nZFPUcPmdOpi7dGEv4T2oZ7fVL_plEQsl j8PUCg4db8pPcGw3jPNTPzNScWqB305ydXnNhdePSuyBao_xXNwCoRip-aUi_X2vK3KZ2zTXfNnK1pZQz7HeXRWZHWUE-ypTFcxoXO5UCo56Vvi90nsSiO0Ou551gfYPw?width=1024&height=791&cropmode=none

[Shackman]

Brize Norton?

[jensdad]

That's not Stansted, is it?

[nvubu]

Not Brize Norton or Stansted

[chevvron]

To save your bacon, I'll 'flitch' to suggest another airfield very near Stansted; it's a 'Great' place.
(What the hell is he talking about?; google 'Dunmow Flitch')
OH if correct.

[nvubu]

Yes, well done - you have it with Dunmow, and I didn't have to use that clue, which I was going to around lunchtime today. jensdad - I was contemplating saying "close" but thought that was a bit too much of a give away.

Open House has been called.

[chevvron]

Yes, well done - you have it with Dunmow, and I didn't have to use that clue, which I was going to around lunchtime today. jensdad - I was contemplating saying "close" but thought that was a bit too much of a give away.

Open House has been called.
Don't want to sound 'picky' but my copy of 'Airfields of the Ninth' which I used for reference (my Airfields of the Eighth being somewhere in the bowels of my loft) says the official name was 'Great Dunmow' after (presumably) the nearest post office..

[Allan Lupton]

Don't want to sound 'picky' but my copy of 'Airfields of the Ninth' which I used for reference (my Airfields of the Eighth being somewhere in the bowels of my loft) says the official name was 'Great Dunmow' after (presumably) the nearest post office..
That area is known for sets of towns/villages such as High Roding, Aythorpe Roding, White Roding, Leaden Roding and Abbess Roding but, although "Great" Dunmow exists, unusually there's no "Little" Dunmow now, if ever there was one. So omitting the "Great", whilst strictly incorrect, won't get you to the wrong place.

[ea200]

I've flown over that one a time or two but would not have recognised it. Under threat from the nearby gravel workings I think. There is in fact a Little Dunmow by the way. Has it's own
Michelin Starred restaurant, the 'Flitch of Bacon'.

[chevvron]

I've flown over that one a time or two but would not have recognised it. Under threat from the nearby gravel workings I think. There is in fact a Little Dunmow by the way. Has it's own Michelin Starred restaurant, the 'Flitch of Bacon'.
Haven't actually flown over there but looking at satellite photos I have to agree; with most WW2 airfields yo can make out at least the perimeter taxiway as at nearby Great Sampford but with Great Dunmow most of the paved surfaces have been removed.

[nvubu]

Bump for anyone to post a challenge.

[mgahan]

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x588/bldm_b55152640aa7cea3e34dc31255203fcdcb93eb9f.png
March, march, march, along the highway.

[Self loading bear]

Craig AFB near Selma?

[chimbu warrior]

Is it too obviously March AFB in Riverside county, California?

[mgahan]

Neither Craig nor March.

But it is April now and the tulips are flowering and their pickers engaging in an unusual "sport". Not many tulips in this city but they adopted the sport in the 1970's as part of their annual festival, which also celebrates blossoms.

[chevvron]

Anson trainers? Canada?

[mgahan]

Commonwealth country but not Canada. Empire Training School activities at the airport during the war but not pilots. Looking at some history for a clue today I see there were some US AAF Units stationed in WW II.

No longer a military establishment That ceased in the 1960's.

When i was there to participate in the "sport' in 1980 we flew in in a C47. About a 2 hour flight from the base where I was stationed at the time.

MJG

[JENKINS]

Ballarat, begonias?

[mgahan]

Yes, Ballarat, in Vicroria. Long distance marching was the "sport".

Well done.

Jenkins can lead the next march.

[JENKINS]

Thanks, try this, never been there. Never visited Ballarat either.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/613x430/packard_lepere_lusac_11_2_ed75f5c8842cb06f2826b5b4b65d75a1d2 c06d1a.jpeg

[Self loading bear]

P-53 tail nr lead to
Packard-Lèpere L USA C.II
then Wikipedia lists this photo as McCook Ohio.

[JENKINS]

That's it. Seems to have been a very boring, and short-lived, airfield.

All yours Bear.

[Self loading bear]

Thanks,

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x429/b2965471_7c41_4197_b702_8dbe0d08f755_ac6babb83a7ca1b5df7a505 7c5c0f849e9fd2a80.jpeg

[jensdad]

Goedemorgen SLB! The sports facilities suggest that this is a military airfield. My gut feeling is that it is on the east side of the Atlantic?

[Phileas Fogg]

Well it is apparently a gliding airfield, not so many military ones of those around east of the Atlantic, it could be that the Sports facilities are an adjacent property and nothing to do with the airfield whatsover, looks like both clay and a grass tennis courts, what is that next door, what sport would be played on such a prim and proper grass, maybe bowls, and what is that behind the tennis courts, could that be a 400m sports circuit? ... It actually looks like a banked cycling circuit.

[Self loading bear]

I had to look into some of the questions
indeed East of Atlantic
indeed military premises to the north of the airfield but no longer related to airfield
Not a Bowls court.
No 400m track or banked cycling bowl either.
Not purely glider field.

[Self loading bear]

I understand a further clue might be required.
Although The military complex is not related to the Air Force it did play a role in the MH-17 aftermath.

[Phileas Fogg]

Well I've been to Ukraine many a time and NEVER seen anything as prim and proper as that ... So would this airfield be in The Netherlands?

[Self loading bear]

Indeed the Netherlands

[Archer4]

Ah my home field. I won't participate in this search (too easy) and leave it to others.

The MH-17 part is a surreal personal experience. I had one of my first flying lessons on the day the motorcade with the bodies arrived at the base. I passed them on my way to the airfield. No better way to get you back to reality.

[G-ARZG]

Hilversum! Open huis, tot ziens. 'ZG

[Self loading bear]

‘ZG has it with Hilversum.

Archer, thanks for sharing your personal experience
All human remains from the MH-17 crash were brought to the Dutch army medical service base for autopsy and identification. The first (and main) transport arrived in an Australian C17 on Eindhoven Air base.
A motorcade of 50 hearses transported them to Hilversum.
Along the route (100km) people formed a honorary hedge.

To give an indication of the impact of this disaster onto the Dutch people:
By percentage we had more victims than the Americans at 9/11.

Archer, may I invite you to take up the Open House?

[Archer4]

This next challenge has a link with the picture from self loading bear. However it is not the same airport.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1333/which_airport_ae13973a43672babf9f2f9332c562f04b8b9874b.jpg

[Self loading bear]

​​​​​
Trivia point, only Uncle Sam can afford C-5 Galaxies. RAAF C-17 perhaps
thanks, corrected

[G-ARZG]

Prague/Letnany? OH if correct
(on a roll tonight!)

[Archer4]

You must have a story how you guessed that!

[Self loading bear]

You must have a story how you guessed that!

If you would have clipped the photo left of AC/DC and would have made the advert PilznerUrquel unreadable it might have last a bit longer!

But let never get a good challenge get in the way of a nice picture.

Did you enjoy the concert?

[Archer4]

Actually I didn't go for the concert. Just to fly to Prague myself. The concert was a surprise during the landing.

[G-ARZG]

You must have a story how you guessed that!

Morning,
SLB sussed my 'tradecraft', Pilzner Urquell and JIP (a Czech cash-and-carry chain) trucks were strong pointers, but I have been to Letnany for a (very lame) GA tradeshow once.

How was your landing there, strewn with potholes, I recall?

[Archer4]

Morning,
SLB sussed my 'tradecraft', Pilzner Urquell and JIP (a Czech cash-and-carry chain) trucks were strong pointers, but I have been to Letnany for a (very lame) GA tradeshow once.

How was your landing there, strewn with potholes, I recall?

Yes the runway was indeed full with potholes. And because of the concert we had to use a very tight circuit on the south side over the military base. 45 degree turn from downwind to final on a very hot day. I kept the speed higher than normal to prevent the wingdip. It made the landing roll a rollercoaster.

[JENKINS]

Off topic; simply good wishes to The Bear on this important day. My celebration of my own National Day somewhat muted two months ago.

[Self loading bear]

Thank you Jenkins,

When all was pride and sunshine:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1333/718e2120_50b6_4c53_b545_139177686ba2_e5a0327c2bea2e0d0c3f4e1 673d73bd5e814b4a8.jpeg

We still have an Open House.

[G-ARZG]

Who knew 777's get that hot on re-entry...

[jensdad]

Great photo, SLB. I chanced to see that beauty flying just off the east coast of the UK last week, I think it was. Even at 30-odd,000 feet she was very striking, the orange and blue standing out to the naked eye.

[Self loading bear]

As we still have open house something discussed weeks ago:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/599x840/1b1ca8ed_6cd2_4e61_bfc7_632379a0a40c_f5486363cfc2252b48b0a21 e6038563b7090e469.jpeg

[Self loading bear]

We were discussing if it was easier to find a horse race track than an airport

[jensdad]

Interesting photo. The top bit looks very much like your neck of the woods (the Netherlands) but the bottom part looks more Eastern European?

[Archer4]

Its Emmeloord, The Netherlands. Quite easy to spot because there are not that many racetracks.

Not sure what is has to do with airports though?

[Self loading bear]

Emmeloord It is!
Archer has control.

The discussion in February was that it was easier to find horse race tracks than Aerodromes in the Netherlands.
The former landingstrip Emmeloord Noordoostpolder EHNP was located along the road at the top of the photo.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/721x892/6b10a3ec_166c_4904_b381_f1da21eb8529_660b4f62edee095d6bb1257 b62d2c898eea3cf51.jpeg

I think my next challenge will be with a cricket or rugby pitch!

[jensdad]

Nice photo of an interesting little aircraft! What's the logo on the tail?

[Self loading bear]

Nice photo of an interesting little aircraft! What's the logo on the tail?

van Beek
van Beek was a aerial spray company from south west part of the Netherlands, Melissant (Zeeland)
Later the plane was owned by Bogaerds Cord but they maintained the logo on the tail.

[jensdad]

Thanks for that info. I used to have a work contact from Zeeland called van Beek.

[Archer4]

I don’t have anything ready atm. So OH.

[grizzled]

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/635x476/a2005_jp_c_e5004d4034dd695b79544f60dd9d9e7271023e6e.jpg
Here's one. Photo taken in 2005

[Self loading bear]

I guess they do night flights as well
At least they are open 24/7

[grizzled]

SLB: yes indeed (re the terminal building being open 24/7) :ok:

No lights and no pavement back then -- but we landed in a 4 engined aircraft

[mgahan]

Somewhere in Africa?

MJG

[G-ARZG]

Gatwick 2021 (too soon?)

[grizzled]

MJG: Go east 6000 miles or so from (central) Africa.

[grizzled]

Gatwick 2021 (too soon?)

And many other airports worldwide, post-Covid!

[G-ARZG]

And many other airports worldwide, post-Covid!

Yes, exactly 'Other airports are also available' (before the Gatwickists get on my case...)

[mgahan]

My first thought was the old terminal at Katherine, Katherine, not Tindal.

[grizzled]

Re Katherine: Your're heading in the right direction (generally) from your hometown (as per pprune) but further to go...

[John Eacott]

North Queensland?

[descol]

Pacific Islands ?

[grizzled]

It is on an island but this island is not usually considered one of the Pacific Islands.

Not in Australia, though Australia has a close association with this island.

If not significantly narrowed down today I'll post another photo.

[John Eacott]

TIWI Islands, Bathurst Airport?

[grizzled]

John E: This airport (recently modernised and expanded since the photo) is not part of Australia. But you're getting closer...

[mgahan]

The old terminal; at Dili, then East Timor. {But the foliage confuses me. and it was sealed when I was there in 2000.


MJG

[grizzled]

MJG: AHA! Right country, wrong airport (which doesn't leave many other choices).

[John Eacott]

Three other choices; I’ll start with Baucau.

[grizzled]

John: Good guess -- but No. Baucau had a long paved runway before I got there (in 2000) -- because the Indonesians wanted a military capable airport far away from Dili.

[John Eacott]

In that case most likely Oecusse, which had a relatively recent rebuild.

[grizzled]

Nope -- but flying to Oecusse was my favourite trip. Flying along the coast was so damn gorgeus (still is, I assume, but haven't been back in more than a dozen years).
Three more to go. The town served by this airport is famous as the site of a very nasty incident during the bad days.

[chimbu warrior]

Suai WPDB. Lots of money spent there by the Chinese.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1326x699/airport_suai_cedf6df8a67faee32b3e0dda113479f41da65372.jpg
New terminal and tower.

[grizzled]

Suai (WPDB) is correct! Site of the Suai Church Massacre -- a horrible day in a horrible year in East Timor. Thanks to the new runway and terminal it looks a lot more like a real airport now. Memories of water buffalo, motorcycles, and dogs galore wandering the strip of packed earth that was termed a runway. And a very late go around... :bored:

All yours Chimbu!

[mgahan]

I knew it was not Bacau because when I did the inspection there and gathered data for the IAP design I was told by an old guy who had been at the airport for years that "you Australian were responsible for the development of Bacau and two other runways in the 1960's when you purchased the F111." White coral strip which, like all the others the Russians built in that era, will still be there in good condition when the dinosaurs return. Not a good time to go there but take a look at K100 north of Mogadishu if you get the chance - same structure and same great surface after many, many years.

Very obviously a military airfield at Bacau with ORPs and quick access taxiways from the military side.

When we were at Bacau in 2000 the lunch choices were very difficult: Great curry with the Pakistani's on their side of the runway or excellent freshly cooked Thai food from their sustainable gardens near the tower.

We suggested changing Bacau to be the POE for the Country with both a good sea and air port but memories of the massacre there were still fresh and will linger for many years..


MJG.

[chimbu warrior]

Open house.

[grizzled]

While we wait for someone to take up the Open House...

Re MGJ's comments, I can confirm that when we did an assessment of Timor-Leste airports / airfields in 2005, WPEC (Baucau) runway surface was in remarkably good condition, expecially considering it had received no ongoing manintenance in years.
Here's a pic taken on final at Baucau in 2005, where the site of the crash of an IL-76 two years earlier can still be clearly seen.
Baucau trivia: It's the site of the only known hijacking of an Australian military aircraft (Sept. 1975).

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/350x269/place_2003_pec_9c343d1bc9fe1555ce6a977f03ba37c03a94d900.jpg

[nvubu]

Just going through my holiday snaps from years gone by, and this popped up.

https://s0bang.am.files.1drv.com/y4mWftWYpQHTR_TK9RO3AQ91YeTVu9P0DjnI_FmyV1Zu14dOIs2-yC1MPmAcPVS9fYO-AnRXK8--21FTljV7lhwdiDi_PGEvj6A4_9l6Mlr5GvpaSPyRUci8RxR5XjNXL_VTdkqA FypwZq7Gfc3XtskCd3fRPdgq2yh_oJjdKTLDdhucuPtiuxURLrRdsSuq4tgr 33kAruXn0AIFNPA2aeTYg?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none

[JENKINS]

Did your holiday go near Gap?

[nvubu]

I'll answer if you tell me where Gap is :)

[JENKINS]

Gap Tallard Aerodrome en France. Simple guess due to hills and Porters, but perhaps too much grass.

[nvubu]

Ah non monsieur.
This holiday didn't go past that location, although we did go through France to and from our final destination..

[jensdad]

All three aircraft look to be Swiss-made. Could it be in that fair country? If it is, I'll get my maps out...

[WIDN62]

How about Bex?

[nvubu]

jensdad has narrowed down the country, but it isn't Bex.

[nvubu]

Bex is around 130 miles away by road from the target airfield.

[Self loading bear]

The ORIS PC-7 is based (or at least shown on several photos) in Locarno?

[jensdad]

Yeah, I reckon SLB has it with Locarno. I went past there on a train (or was it a bus?) a few years ago. The vegetation definitely has a south-side-of-the-Alps look about it as well.

[nvubu]

You'd reckon correctly. It is Locarno. Well done SLB.

We stayed at the Arcadia hotel in Locarno for a night on the way back from Italy. I have never experienced a swimming pool as clean as the one at the hotel. It was fantastic. So much so, that we stopped again the following year on the way to Slovenia, and this time it was the filthiest pool at any hotel we have stayed in, and was such as disappointment.

I've come across a few more holiday airfield images during my sort out of my images over the lockdown.

[Self loading bear]

Gee, wasn’t expecting that Locarno would be right as I could not find the hangar/garage building with an A as shown on your photo.

Ok now one that I have never visited by air, but I must have been real close next to It.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/207x243/bba99c41_a18c_4c78_8765_284f4d709fff_3231b049cd6e1e144c3ed2f bfa468449a7b0dbee.jpeg

[nvubu]

SLB - on Google Earth go to streetview where it shows the Para Centro Locarno, then go a little south on the main road. Just past the hedge, look right, and there's the building.

[G-ARZG]

Walt Disney World Stolport, Florida?
(that large edifice - Contemporary Tower - in background gives it away)
OH if correct. 'ZG

[Self loading bear]

Walt Disney World Stolport, Florida?
(that large edifice - Contemporary Tower - in background gives it away)
OH if correct. 'ZG

Walt Disney it is

OH called by G-AZRG

[descol]

I have not posted for a while - not sure if this will work


https://i.postimg.cc/Bn4jz5Yj/a1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/jL3qwfrT)

[chimbu warrior]

That is an older shot of the terminal at Brunei (WBSB). Open house.

[descol]

That is an older shot of the terminal at Brunei (WBSB). Open house.

Yes - it is WBSB
CW - open house

[grizzled]

Here's one:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/898x674/pprune_may_2020_2_4d0135d55b154ce53dc65bea07ae28c1ffe00659.j pg

[grizzled]

As that kind of terrain could be almost anywhere, I suppose a hint is in order.
Slave Trade

[chevvron]

Is it Mahon?

[grizzled]

It's an island about the same size (area) as Menorca. More tropical location than Menorca but much fewer residents.

[Self loading bear]

Malabo perhaps?

[grizzled]

Not Malabo -- but, by a very strange coincidence, this airport is exaclty the same discance from both Malabo and Mahon.

[jensdad]

Must be the Caribbean then? I was thinking somewhere in Cape Verde but unless there's a bit of distortion on my map that country is all closer to Malabo than Mahon. Fort de France?

[grizzled]

Hi jensdad. I'd suggest you go back to Cape Verde and re-measure those distances . . . ;)

Edit: I double checked on Google Earth and the difference between the distance from Mahon to this airport, and Malabo to this airport, is less than 1 nautical mile.

[jensdad]

Ahha. Is it Sal? If it isn't I'll let someone else have a go.

[jensdad]

Oops. It would appear to be the other one... The one that has the same name as a football team from Oporto.

Oh OK then. Boa Vista. I have nothing handy so if I'm right it's Casa Aberta. :)

[grizzled]

Correct! Aeroporto Aristides Pereira, Boa Vista, Cabo Verde. Bom trabalho, jensdad!

Casa Aberta indeed

[grizzled]

Just to clarify for our non-Portuguese speaking friends -- it's Open House. :ok:

[Allan Lupton]

I don't often post on here as I usually can't identify the aerodromes offered and have very few suitable photos of my own anyway. How about this one though? Where and when?

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x381/rhl001_1_f01030ba74db25aa3c0e288721c63c5161b11e43.jpg

[chevvron]

Kingsnorth Airship Station?

[Allan Lupton]

Kingsnorth Airship Station?
Sorry, not that.

[Allan Lupton]

Is anybody there?

[dixi188]

Cardington perhaps.

[Allan Lupton]

Cardington perhaps.
but not there either.

[grizzled]

Allan: A small clue perhaps?

[Allan Lupton]

Allan: A small clue perhaps?
Already? it's only been there three days!
Both wrong answers are correct in one detail.

[India Four Two]

RNAS Polegate?

[Allan Lupton]

RNAS Polegate?
not there either

[chevvron]

Isle of Grain?

[OUAQUKGF Ops]

Pulham Market?

[Allan Lupton]

Isle of Grain?
Pulham Market?
neither of those

[ea200]

RNAS Mullion?

[SMOKEON]

Karachi - R 101 Airship Mooring Mast building (c. 1929)

[Allan Lupton]

Karachi - R 101 Airship Mooring Mast building (c. 1929)
We have a winner as that's all near enough! My uncle Reg took the photo when he was in India on business in 1928 and it is one of several he took showing the Airship Shed in construction.
About 57 years later I was amused to see an electricity substation next to the road leading to the engineering side of Karachi Airport was clearly labelled "Airship Shed Substation".
Over to SMOKEON

[SMOKEON]

Thank you,Alan.
Open House.

[Self loading bear]

Already? it's only been there three days!
Both wrong answers are correct in one detail.

what is the detail being correct of both Cardington and Kingsnorth airship station?

[Allan Lupton]

what is the detail being correct of both Cardington and Kingsnorth airship station?
Both were airship places as was intended at Karachi

[dash7fan]

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x507/grafik_ac53356a91f1c8fd0fb3d14a27f8411b44b40907.png
Since open house, runway with some very short landings

[kenparry]

Lanzarote, threshold of RW 02

[dash7fan]

Sorry, no,

[Self loading bear]

Runway 02
equals runway 02/20
Skiathos Greece

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/581x410/3ad0f42b_cc22_46ab_8ec4_a0c56ba25c4b_d60fafaa2bae380bab5894e c01c01aabbaa5e49d.jpeg

If correct I am afraid to have to declare OH as I will be out on a job coming week.

[dash7fan]

You are correct SLB, OH declared

[jensdad]

A short term slot sitter. Some of you folks will have been here: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/611x640/2019_orkshet_341_copy_611x640__5e224b3fb273fa3dee05e7de9c126 0b3f2e6fdae.jpg

[10 DME ARC]

I have been there a few times but not for long long time! I think.....Scatsta?? OH if correct

[jensdad]

I thought that one wouldn't get past 24 hours! Scatsta it certainly is, 10 DME. The former RAF airfield at the northern end of the Shetland Mainland. Found a new lease of life serving the Sullom Voe Oil Terminal just up the road.

10 DME ARC has called open house.

[descol]

Open house - here's one to keep it moving https://i.postimg.cc/VNcX286k/67-Copy-2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/yDvJS2cM)

[grizzled]

Perhaps Southeast Asia or Asia Pacific?

[descol]

Perhaps Southeast Asia or Asia Pacific?


Asia Pacific

[chimbu warrior]

Is that Girua (Popondetta) PNG?

[descol]

Is that Girua (Popondetta) PNG?
CW - not Girua

[descol]

Clue - south of the equator

[chimbu warrior]

Might need a stronger clue.......

[descol]

same airport in the 80s

<a href='https://postimg.cc/565S17qt' target='_blank'><img src='https://i.postimg.cc/c429RPvf/9.jpg' border='0' alt='9'/></a>

[descol]

Apologies - having trouble with posting the image - will try again

[descol]

https://i.postimg.cc/85qQn44Y/9.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Hasanuddin Airport Makasar Indonesia?

[descol]

Hasanuddin Airport Makasar Indonesia?
SLB - not Makasar

[Self loading bear]

But yes to Indonesia??

[descol]

But yes to Indonesia??
SLB - Pacific - not Indonesia

[grizzled]

Hmmmm... Solomons perhaps?

[descol]

Grizz = Not SI

[chimbu warrior]

Might it be an old photo of Funafuti (NGFU)?

[descol]

Funafuti it is - first image being the sealed runway - done c.mid 90's - 2nd image the older coral grass strip
yours CW

[chimbu warrior]

Open house, for anyone with an interesting challenge.

[Asturias56]

Funafuti it is - first image being the sealed runway - done c.mid 90's - 2nd image the older coral grass strip
yours CW
Those were the days -

[Self loading bear]

Those were the days -
Welcome back Asturias!!

[Asturias56]

Just passing through Bear - hope everyone is safe and well

[Self loading bear]

This almost counts as an off-airport landing.
and would then not be eligible as a challenge here.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/910x502/06022182_0a79_49e4_844d_26712013b92a_1798cd58bf195b9f35e8886 e9f41fff085e26cb0.jpeg