Which Aerodrome Mk III

[dook]

Anything to do with a politician ?

[JENKINS]

Not a politician, and unless seekers have the sort of strange mind which inhabits my noddle a clue of little use. Weather looks nice there.

[India Four Two]

Somewhere in Canada?

[JENKINS]

Not Canada. Temperature at nearest international airport is already 29, I think the Vale will be hot today.

[JENKINS]

And now time to skip off to my scratcher. Keep looking, it's in a lovely spot, goodnight.

[India Four Two]

Nice vineyards too! McLaren Vale, SA. Aldinga airfield.

[Checklist Charlie]

Nice beach just up the road as well.

CC

[JENKINS]

Good morning. Yes, Aldinga. Spotted during TV coverage of the first major cycling event of the year. Sadness with death of long -time commentator quite recently. Long weekend in Adelaide a good memory however.

India42, over to you.

[India Four Two]

JENKINS,

Thanks. The square fields made me think USA, but the 03 ruled that out, so Canada was the first obvious choice. I was going to search Australia next, but the Vale reference immediately narrowed my search area. :)

Try this:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/922x725/screen_shot_2019_01_22_at_17_13_29__417bcfeb2b4ce289b222f84e baa58a8b25fa05b9.png

[dook]

Four-bladed props and lots of folded wings.

Do I see Skyraiders ?

[zetec2]

Corsairs I think

[India Four Two]

Mostly Corsairs, but I'm not sure what the three on the right are. They might be Bearcats.

[dook]

Whichever it is, I think we could be in Vietnam.

[India Four Two]

Mais oui, mon ami.

[dook]

That's good of you.

I was about to look at the Indo-China war.

[dook]

Is it Da-Nang ?

[India Four Two]

Yes, Da Nang, although in those days it was Tourane.

dook has control.

[dook]

Many thanks, but I had my doubts.

Next one.

http://i66.tinypic.com/25f7xom.jpg

[chevvron]

San Diego somewhere?
The image on my 11" sceen is very pixilated and difficult to see.

[dook]

We're not in the USA.

[oldpax]

Fringing reef ….somewhere in the pacific?

[dook]

Yes oldpax..

[Auxtank]

Shot in the dark after a few days AWOL.

Kwajalein Atoll ?

[dook]

I'm afraid not.

You need to go quite a long way north west.

This image is on the internet.

[Self loading bear]

Johnston atol?

OH if correct

SLB

[dook]

My post above suggested going north west from Kwajalein.

[nvubu]

Kadena/Okinawa

[dook]

Okinawa yes but Kadena no.

[nvubu]

Motobu......

[dook]

We have a winner - Motobu it is.

Over to nvubu.

[nvubu]

Thanks. I was sure that I'd seen a similar layout on Okinawa before - but hadn't seen Motobu.

I've been looking at gliders recently, and I have a whole host of airfields where they are taking off, but the only attribution being "Somewhere in France".

So for something slightly different - this is "Somewhere in France".
https://38qwga.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mDCbE4FDf4RZeH9AChYbvjbZ4Ie_MiRvQ0fWiZBo2i-9ZpXPVJOs3iwOgCBdOeY8XNKLatTPajsGsG8nPn_H4iYUe7Zf7KgFS-upiYWdAdiyxGgQZzJ7Gqm08_izjWjrAfEEdYNLzGI21faGClojZmT0otAds0 81246_6d8Oi0rP8zOhSYDPvyekEWdpMVQK-NTadED6hC6-TONiH9LdsXA?width=1024&height=764&cropmode=none

Layout is the same now as 75 years ago, so Google Earth is your friend here. Happy hunting.

[dook]

I can't see evidence that the gliders have landed there but I suspect so by their somewhat haphazard direction.

[nvubu]

They are definitely on the ground having just landed :ok: Am fairly sure that some are in the process of landing in the photo.

[dook]

Possibly somewhere on the Cherbourg peninsula.

[nvubu]

Not on the Cherboug peninsular.

I'd say that to be successful with this challenge, you need to identify the current road number of the road snaking across the screen from left to right, rather than just a general area.

[dook]

Identify a road number ???????

[nvubu]

It obviously isn't an aerodrome - you'll know the road number if/when you find it.

[ExAscoteer]

Those are American WACO gliders (the Brits only used them in the training role as the 'Hadrian'). If not Cherbourg I'd suspect Op Dragoon.

Hyères?

[nvubu]

It is Dragoon, it is not a road near Hyères.

[JENKINS]

Somewhere between Cannes and Toulon, maybe close to the A8? I can't find an aerodrome ident.

[nvubu]

Jenkins - It is NOT an "aerodrome" with an ident, but as gliders landed there, thought it would be interesting as a challenge :)

[JENKINS]

Found an article with the photograph, perhaps the A57 rather than the A8? I occasionally night-stopped Le Luc, very good hotac in Bandol area.

[nvubu]

Not A57 or A8 - don't think they had any auto routes in 1944 :)

[dook]

Are we near Le Muy ?

[nvubu]

Close by, yes

This link is good for the current road numbers: https://www.viamichelin.co.uk/

[dook]

Not for me it isn't.

D25 and D47 intersection ?

[nvubu]

Close, but no cigar yet. Look for the watercourse,

[dook]

I think we may be less than half a mile WSW of Clastron.

[nvubu]

You've gone down the wrong road from the roundabout.

[dook]

Landing site "Oscar" is about two miles north of Le Muy but running north up the D25 doesn't reveal any that looks similar. I've looked a tad west of Le Mitan also.

Is that road called Chemin des Muyois ?

Please confirm your image is orientated north.

[nvubu]

Road is running roughly north south - north being to the left of the image.
It is the D25 - keep going north and look where the watercourse alongside the road then crosses it.

dook has this one as I was looking for the D25/Route de Callask, so you have named it.

Here's the next image of the film:
https://qefh0w.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mlxeX5v5xbbRqTCo4-DdxeOu82gOWLWmU6fqFGj5IgwZ0TdSDcEKVW9msc5rxen47rJHK_Up-V-SD0RGl9psnu6GnuGp75p-XPJZPWIFaAgq6zSytN-Gj9rTbwFtumMSktaedwMeFTM57mmDf6d3Q6XScFViATcaEeERNYN_6h0H-6k14OlUpUXrdPDTkFSbyspwMtxz24UQSIUYMAnCsyw?width=1024&height=776&cropmode=none

control passes back to dook.

[Self loading bear]

I think Dook is correct but has not regonised the area.
The photo is taken in SE direction from above Les Grands Esclans.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x1334/8c701e9f_9d03_49a4_a6e3_763c4e001ee8_fa1b5fb8a8d013d2e47508e 5b22ca75e1b04cd99.png
Dook to close the house when I am correct.

SLB

[nvubu]

I'll give dook has this one as he did state 2 miles north of Le Muy and named the road correctly, even though he wasn't 100% on the exact location

[dook]

I got as close as I could.

It becomes easier for everyone when someone gets close

[dook]

Dook to close the house when I am correct

I am not sure what this means.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2zq9zpj.jpg

[dook]

I think we should remember that English is not his primary language.

The only person who can "close the house" is the original first thread poster.

If he deletes his first post the thread will evaporate.

[dook]

Err...…..no it isn't, my challenge is above.

WTFO ?

I've spent too long here today and am going to climb to two feet and level off.

Goodnight.

[JENKINS]

Bed-time here also. Dishforth?

[Self loading bear]

Good morning Everybody!

English is indeed not my first language.
No bad intentions!

I only meant that when my answer would be better than Dook’s I would not declare open house but I would pass the keys of the house to dook.

In the mean time nvubu already handed the controls/keys to dook and my post crossed.

Later today i have to spent 4 hours on the airport So i might be able to earn the keys back.
First 3 hours drive through very rainy Greece.

SLB

[dook]

Good morning all.

It's not Dishforth.

I should add that my challenge is orientated about 045 degrees true.

[Self loading bear]

Looks Classic Fliegerhorst Luftwaffe A-shape.
SLB

[dook]

Not Germany.

[kenparry]

The field pattern looks English. Are we in the UK?

[dook]

The pattern is certainly like the UK and that's where we are.

[dook]

I'll be back around 1330Z.

[nvubu]

Is this a current(ish) image that has been aged to look as if it is 1940s?

[dook]

No - It's a real photograph as the airfield was.

[kenparry]

The runways look to be too short for a bomber base, so can we exclude E Anglia and Lincolnshire?

[dook]

Yes you can. No bombers.

If anyone would like I can post a GE overhead view as it is now (or very recently was).

[Auxtank]

Gloucester?

[dook]

Getting closer...….

[Auxtank]

Thruxton? A303 running along to the side.

[nvubu]

RAF Culmhead

[dook]

nvubu gets another missile away.

Your stage.

[nvubu]

Thanks dook.

I'm putting together another challenge at the moment - got loads of historic photos I'm going through for it.

However, I won't be ready for a 2 to 3 hours - or maybe even tomorrow am, so until then if anyone who is not a regular at this wants to post up a challenge, please feel free to do so.

[dook]

Hopefully someone will respond.

[Background Noise]

Timing is everything! Try this:


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x499/screen_shot_2019_01_23_at_08_19_58_ee8a881c30d02e420e54a8992 8be8a4202511619.jpg

[nvubu]

United States?

[chevvron]

Wendover, Utah?

[Background Noise]

US yes, Utah no.

[dook]

Near Dodge City ?

[Background Noise]

Because of the irrigation? No. Well yes in global terms, but a few hundred miles away.

[dook]

The lone star state ?

[Background Noise]

Not quite that far, although we were based there - but we did a lot of circuits and bumps here.

[dook]

Well, the Texas border is only about 100 miles away and you said a few hundred.

I'll shoot at Oklahoma then.

[dook]

Frederick regional airport.

[Background Noise]

Frederick it is, the Relief Landing Ground for the T37s. 244 miles from Dodge City. Is that back to nvubu?

[dook]

Why back to nvubu ?

[Background Noise]

I thought we were filling time after his previous win - see post #11825

[dook]

I read that as an OH.

If someone doesn't respond to a win...……...

[nvubu]

dook is in the seat not me as it was an open house "with conditions" - as I have noticed that whenever an OH has been declared lately, regulars are jumping straight in (been guilty of this myself) instead holding off for a few hours to let others have a chance.:)

If no-one had popped in, I'd have taken up with the challenge I was putting together - which I have ready now.

[Sam Asama]

Ah yes... the old hurry hurry hurry. Then silence for 13 hours because it's nighttime in the UK. It seems some of the regulars don't understand the reasons we have the (simple) rules we have on this thread. It would be SO easy to keep the thread moving at a regular pace (as it used to) if people followed those basic rules. It's the internet. Look up "global".

Sigh....

[dook]

I'm conscious of the time zones involved here.

Accordingly I have removed my challenge and declare OH.

[nvubu]

I'll post mine if there are no other challenges ready to go?

[dook]

I was waiting for a "non-regular" but we might have waited all day.

I have several ready but please go ahead (and also check PM).

[nvubu]

You remember I mentioned gliders, well, here's another glider - taking off on the mission.

https://38qjga.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m7VmuELS5BiC2SrG4aXQG29RfvzOs-fTk_CBCRZ7lPV4VsuJ3nQql_Zc9ODYC7-whb_czjVNhyDgwiqdsc03PtmZiPzGe1chlbFudidb6LbVqOTjJIrBj4KOH_4 EzabZDUV1ksmvADHcKoUPWunXyuX10caNhHoAHOg2FvUe8wF-oRCtNIjZ6z0CoSL-ZscOnMTq4Q_hKDS2bdyPl94ZDdA?width=1024&height=773&cropmode=none

No need for the road this time, just the location :)

[dook]

The same mission as last time I assume.

If so, we might be in Italy.

[nvubu]

Not the same mission, and we aren't in Italy.

[dook]

What led me to that thought was that you said the mission.

[nvubu]

It's not as if they are going to return for another mission :)

https://rfb8dq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mUb4ZgA6NGUwb7CefUuGPpULSm2LkJVlatIwufVEMeM_hxvifQF7xHhbsi HsNQFupliozqBxH1w3zCGZr5E6NM_48egip_2xn_1tkhx10nQV9IIApBDkkz 1MJqDamLdl1YoER6OPb_68HG9-GEyvECPUh0_7eEtR2TMVZBHcWH3VhtZr0pw9ePVBL_ZWwV21eUXJKQVgsp3F MqaJSlqVz7g?width=1024&height=794&cropmode=none

[dook]

Atterbury...?

[nvubu]

It isn't Camp Atterbury (if that is where you meant).

[dook]

Market Garden ?

[JENKINS]

More like combat conditions perhaps. I acknowledge lack of theatre stripes, and no obvious sign of the 'snatch,' but how about Lalaghat in Assam?

[nvubu]

Arrgghhh........... and I had quite a few images for this. Jenkins has hit the nail on the head Lalaghat it is.

I thought I might keep this going for a while, keeping you in Europe, before I revealed the Indian link - mules, palms and suchlike. I also though Lalaghat may be a bit obscure as there is very little info about it on the web.

Here are some other images I had lined up.

https://2ine6w.bn.files.1drv.com/y4moWqATl6-N5y2mw0jcpWT-FNoSsmw4dVSeH5PNQWV3pe7sLi0ESA6acDedQlSuWCUs4H7CWnVedLXPixTf tllz4Tq4Shni_xGJJl6B9LWNSE04BeasXqd4qZ2SB6SNz7FUG-2G9QT7uVmlPoydemjElAGRaihWAmDXx8tbGdQ2fTjA5pCheMBVUQ3D1PKDzj rFb7Hc-_7ETZmVvWwPUm1mw?width=660&height=474&cropmode=none

https://qefu0w.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mnNoR67Vow0hh6-Dc27qmHIST2lmO_H_jP3mKK2p12KUYfQoXv-dmgbT-awMJVgWjhQxznLJrpgerYN4ZOo1ChNnYbGw09VB4XuDE7u4y4LkX-545h6ScuFOlR5Ifl1IhiE2AMsf9Bqkr-jJtIPgUXgCF2xXawgimMUi3ns6NEPBQVP5nStFMHAdUudcGj1fGPpo_qAYN3 VY752ytRwK85g?width=660&height=482&cropmode=none

https://byzoaw.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mxQCSpZ2R7aflujgJM3eS6OFNUhDiS8ii_t2Temq70gP5yQFFYV0ewSVPS D89LOG9hi48ApZWkZ_fzRVznrUgHCtEL-xuItDw5GaYdmCRIWIU-WK48PX-MAHzhWdSntJ3Qgt2Fi713rjTX6eAeF3HwZNzkysiEIjKgVIz9AAgypGlHAwL wRxGgE4lVGAaPOTt0i05u7SHQHxdD4vzxWSqaQ?width=660&height=526&cropmode=none

https://dw2kma.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mtdoWopTK-D2QFzDoEDLujM48nBiLwJlt-iJ_eb3TTiZobB1iq7uWigG3odprdTelEJygT7IkMc6cyeUO8T_8hZvdtSLIY EUX-vWWgR5QSf_0apXeOb40Vi7rXEB_7WWAwiiiBVtybM-vIUEsCj0rnr3xrpyUa3ymwfyR1aRBYTBUCH6-Vdewn9mIGV3ua471Lbc-gaHMx6ZtQIJAsaJa_Q?width=660&height=494&cropmode=none

https://2ind6w.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m6Jev129JqTg4xmKgJJPkGSaAW7XxgcJKrOtQM3GXXtvI1uKBD_klKRtTv _M8iGjpUTREP7EItaLbGGFxwWBh1OnwMcOZYxjBV0nEB6zeOuJExHqOu2oqy olqQ1kgY2jeiIPUToCQicz2DfznEBRngdhAaHOO78t4roSe9URhIOnY-8SQQ60AetZXXcWj8KnUA3ktpXKr8xf8oAH7N1xS-Q?width=660&height=520&cropmode=none

https://q1bzdq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4ml8s6CaAW1GqU6zBrgaKZ0YeMPRaCxUDKA4dr7-L3voMc4DncRY5sg2WS1JDvfuwsSOcrdURAWEuSmoR6pExuXaZR_T3URYtdU1 g1GYhzLEOPJwx85dWBBqINRs6CVQYkK0Rtnc7TFKKabE3qPse4EB_VwZGnqX ElVH5CjVlfpMtyBpLWPXjy8bWjuNfLCGyr09pw989FpjG8Jg6Ercr9tw?wid th=660&height=494&cropmode=none

https://blhaya.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m-25mN-8NAvbDdsqJne0UlFoRjlPOHL5J4n3eJjQiQwdaFUgtyfHFtkQ2gz0esrEKpI nzuQvYzyUX6S4xXgxidVfC6yRBWV9-wRZS_plt0gNQk9LM7oKL-OfhIxow_QFIlrV4rf9xpcyA_DMyQROfhDQ2E9uPELol7emR1aNxZVxEaLT-mOhcVgSKjmhAUi6l2FjAFeDGOtY1YuSriuTsng?width=660&height=523&cropmode=none

[JENKINS]

Thanks., good photographs. Now this. Never landed there, but on my single ground visit there was a machine which features in my logbook.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1548520836_1e0c0918f77de8dee426a48c65da992438 2fb20e.jpg

[kcockayne]

Etampes, France ?

[JENKINS]

Not Etampes.

[Auxtank]

Cyprus trees - Italia?

WAIT; Not Etampes, mais France?

[dook]

Is it a maintenance field ?

[JENKINS]

Not France. Maintenance a speciality, I saw the work being done on, I seem to remember, an ancient Vickers machine . You may have realised that the field is disused, so the term 'maintenance facility' may be taken rather loosely.

[broadreach]

nvubu, what a great collection of Lalaghat photos! The first of the ones you didn't get to post as new clues, with the tangle of towropes and the BLOWTORCH, begs for a caption competition :cool:

[Auxtank]

Again, Italy?

[JENKINS]

Apologies, I meant 'not Italy.' Too busy with cricket.

[nvubu]

broadreach - I have quite a few more images. Good spot on the blowtorch :ok: I haven't worked out where the airfield was as there doesn't seem to be any trace on the ground and descriptions are few and far between.

[dook]

I've been looking closely at the top left corner.

Spain ?

[JENKINS]

Not Spain, though I believe that aircraft of the type which I have described had 'history' in Spain.

[dook]

Sod it...….:{

[dook]

So is it connected with restoration ?

[JENKINS]

Indeed it is, that form of 'maintenance.'

[Auxtank]

Ahhh, Cyprus ?

[JENKINS]

Local international airport currently 30 degrees C., number 10000 winging its wwy to that field which is very much an ATR and Airbus field.

[JENKINS]

Not Cyprus, too cool there.

[dook]

I'm sure you said it's disused.

=leftYou may have realised that the field is disused,

[JENKINS]

Yes, disused, local international field not very busy.

[dook]

Australia...?

[JENKINS]

Not the Four X continent.

[dook]

Difficult to imagine with a temperature of about 30C surely it's southern hemisphere.

[JENKINS]

Yes it is, and a 167 thrown in for good luck.

[nvubu]

South Africa ?

[JENKINS]

Not South Africa.

[dook]

Would that mean a BAC 167 ?

[JENKINS]

But of course.

[dook]

Got a few hours on that I can tell you.

New Zealand ?

[JENKINS]

I knew that, and now nail it. Strike while the iron is hot! Old Vickers machine, nearby international airport, and the relevant April 1st year was 1937.

[dook]

Wigram museum.

[JENKINS]

Yes, Wigram, albeit little left of airfield. I saw the re-creation of a Vildebeest/Vincent composite machine being undertaken. XS 600 from my logbook was there at the time. RNZAF Museum site.

All yours.

[dook]

Coming up...….

Yer 'tis for the night shift time zones. It's my bed time.

http://i65.tinypic.com/a9xwup.jpg

[Cows getting bigger]

Gutersloh -I think that's my car in the car park. :)

[dook]

Another one bites the dust.

CGB is in the chair.

[Cows getting bigger]

Thank you. This should be quite easy.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/img_1319_968033aab9dd8e60cf63be2a5e9c53a4424b3a97.jpeg

[dook]

Can't see it.

[Cows getting bigger]

Hmm, try now.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7904/33018004308_9d98542cac_c.jpg

[dook]

Thank you - got it now.

[dook]

Bismillah - Bangladesh by any chance ?

Might it be Chittagong-Patenga ?

[JENKINS]

Cox's Bazar?

[dook]

Or Dhaka Hazrat Shahjalal ?

[Cows getting bigger]

Well gents, you have the right country but aren't there yet. Interestingly, I was at Chittagong, Dhaka and Cox's Bazar today. No HS748s seen at any of those though. Perhaps this will help?


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/33018004838_1eef3c46d3_c.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Jessore

AAX suffered landing gear collapse 16 january
SLB

[dook]

Jessore.....?

edit: bugger

[Cows getting bigger]

SLB appears to be first past the post. Jessore it is.

[Self loading bear]

Thank you Cows,
First search on Bismillah and AAX was a hit on ASN
ASN (https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20180116-0)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1439x666/challenge_5_1_92118aaf4635bdefb3cea1e3265c0910741fa4e5.jpg

New challenge:
Started as private flying 50 years ago and basically has been a private entreprise until its demise.

Succes SLB

[Asturias56]

Is that a banked racing circuit like Brooklands pre-war - not many such circuits in Europe - ever.... so N America??

[dook]

There is in Europe - and I've seen it before.

Just trying to remember where.

[dook]

And I don't think it's a racing circuit.

[Asturias56]

Its dog racing!!!

N Denes Yarmouth Stadium by the look of it

Airport is next door

[Self loading bear]

Asturias has placed the winning bet!
I visited often from 2003.
All what is left of the helicopter flying for southern North Sea has been relocated to Norwich.

Asturias had control.

[Asturias56]

If you zoom in on the picture you can see the lights around the track - quite distinctive

Then google UK Greyhound racing stadiums........................... it's only run professionally in the UK and Ireland I think in Europe

Did you win much Bear? I've only seen it movies - "The Long Good Friday" IIRC

[Asturias56]

Just got in - nice sunny day but cool.. whereas in the challenge it's sunny and warm a lot of the time - mainly internal flights but I think it may have one international flight service

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/794x948/2019_01_25_172518_20b96606383f72ad670bc93abcb2e61264220be0.j pg

[Self loading bear]

Did you win much Bear? I've only seen it movies - "The Long Good Friday" IIRC

Although I have spend considerable time in the portacabin waiting room waiting on the fog to clear, I could never place a bet at the greyhound Racing stadium. I was never allowed to leave and luckily I had to stay overnight only once in Great Yarmouth. For the rest it was always taxi waiting to fly KLM to Amsterdam from Norwich.

Somehow at Norwich i have spent far more nights in the hotels.

SLB

[dook]

Ah.....my great tour at Coltishall - girls everywhere.

N O R W I C H

Nickers Off Ready When I Come Home.

Clueless about the challenge though.

[Asturias56]

It is a long way south from Norwich .. and Yarmouth as well

tell me - is there a "Lesser" or Small" Yarmouth ?? Or is it just Great???

[Self loading bear]

Going far South from Great Yarmouth
i think southern Africa.
Due to the rather small patches of land around the airport i think not Australia.
SLB

[chevvron]

Asturias has placed the winning bet!
I visited often from 2003.
All what is left of the helicopter flying for southern North Sea has been relocated to Norwich.

Asturias had control.


Presently up for sale OIRO £1.5M; I believe the land has been assessed as unsuitable for housing otherwise it would have gone by now.
Convenient for the golf course and local horse race track as well as the stock car/dog track.

So how about we all chip in and buy it?

[chevvron]

It is a long way south from Norwich .. and Yarmouth as well

tell me - is there a "Lesser" or Small" Yarmouth ?? Or is it just Great???
Yarmouth IOW; there's a private strip there too.

[Asturias56]

SLB is in the correct direction - I'm off to the movies - I'll try and check-in in when we get back about 23:00 UK time

Looks like Mary Stewart/the Favourit/ or Schindlers List.... the last one is just too depressing


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/432x251/2019_01_25_172604_cbd132a91633ed569916309b635cf8f63d3e140e.j pg

[Self loading bear]

tell me - is there a "Lesser" or Small" Yarmouth ?? Or is it just Great???

Being a fishermens town since the romans I too thought the “Great” was probably a red herring.
But I found the following on this site:

History site (http://users.trytel.com/tristan/towns/yarmouth.html)


Great Yarmouth – the qualifier distinguishing it from its southern neighbour, Little Yarmouth – is situated near where several rivers, among them the Yare, flow into what was once a very broad estuary (much larger than the present-day Breydon Water) opening out into the sea. In Roman times there was a port and market town a little further north, at Caistor, and a small fort inland at Burgh Castle; these were later abandoned. Subsequent settlement (http://users.trytel.com/tristan/towns/florilegium/economy/eccom07.html#p35) focused on the site of Great Yarmouth itself. Tradition has the first settlement there established by the Saxon leader, Cerdic, ca. 495, but this is unsubstantiated and doubtful. More certain is that silting in the mouth of the "Great Estuary" over time formed a huge sandbank (http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/g.woodcock/gyarm/history/history1.htm) that came to be several miles long, with breaches leaving the Yare access into the sea through two channels at either end of the sandbank; one channel separated Yarmouth and Caister, the other ran southwards for some miles and separated Great and Little Yarmouth/Gorleston before entering the sea.

Gorleston still exist as the southern side of the river mouth.

SLB

[dook]

I can't find anything in South Africa and there's very little in Botswana.

[Asturias56]

Back from the movie - heaven help us from designing women...

Thanks to Bear - that is really interesting..................... real pub quiz stuff!

South was generic - tho its not a million miles form southern Africa.................. one of these rather obscure spots I end up in that are really not that bad but seem (like me) to be passed by the modern world......nice beach!

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/544x418/2019_01_25_172901_9c49ee974633ac3f04679625b7e669b6da5f44c3.j pg

[dook]

I think it's in Madagascar.

Toliara ?

[Asturias56]

You are correct - Toliara (there are many spellings) it is.............. pleasant in a laid back way

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/517x302/2019_01_25_172723_c79b15d825a88329eeb7ecf81c2097caf38820b6.j pg

[dook]

That was a good challenge.

Next:

http://i65.tinypic.com/34hbeoo.jpg

[kenparry]

An odd collection; York, Lanc; then is that the fin of a glider above the Lanc's No 1 engine?; next a C-47 or Dakota; possibly a Stirling beyond the Dak?

The number of bodies suggests a show or a demo of some sort?

edit: the odd fin is the right shape for a Horsa.

Wild stab; Beaulieu?

[dook]

There are two outfits in the picture. One of them had Sterlings..

Photograph taken 1945/46.

You are close with Beaulieu.

[kenparry]

OK; a small step West to Holmsley South?

[dook]

No but very close.

You were slightly closer with Beaulieu.

[chevvron]

Stoney Cross?

[dook]

kenparry did the work but chevvron gets the banana.

Hard luck kenparry, as is often the case on the thread.

[kenparry]

Well done; I had been looking, fruitlessly, for a field with the apron as shown. dook, can you tell us what the occasion was?

[JENKINS]

46 Squadron Stirling of course, and it appears to be Sports Day. Sorry, I crossed ref. the question.

[dook]

I don't know what the occasion was, but it might have been associated with a sports day.

[jensdad]

CGB... Sorry I've been away from the thread for a few days... is that one of Emerald Airways' old budgies?

[chevvron]

kenparry did the work but chevvron gets the banana.

Hard luck kenparry, as is often the case on the thread.
Open House

[JENKINS]

With OH, this might tickle the fancy.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1548191543_70bac37b2c6c2eb12fd9c5ac5d6c6d4038 269eab.jpg

[dook]

Might be correct for Ken Dodd, but not me.

[JENKINS]

That will do for a start.

[dook]

Pay attention double O seven.

Not UK I assume.

[JENKINS]

An incorrect assumption.

[dook]

It seems to me that the trees on the airfield have been intentionally planted so perhaps we're looking at tree farming.

[Self loading bear]

Rather large estate in the upper right corner.

SLB

[JENKINS]

Trees incidental to this disused field, but not to the top right corner.

[JENKINS]

If dook had followed up the first comment there might have been progress. Were SLB to follow up the matter of the presumed estate, a consideration of the history of KLM in the 1930's might lead to a winning position.

I have often flown past this field at 250 feet, and now I regret good night.

[chevvron]

The airfield is called Poulton and is owned by the Eaton Hall Estate (Duke of Westminster), the river being the Dee.(Don't see the KLM connection though; built 1942/43?)
OH again.

[dook]

dook would have followed up the comment had he not gone to bed. :{

[JENKINS]

Poulton it is - KLM connection is 1934 Air Race to Melbourne. DC2 first on handicap, but first across the line was 'Grosvenor House,' and through 'Grosvenor' would have emerged The Duke of Westminster. Only 35 miles from Knotty Ash.

Guess whose birthday falls today? My next but superfluous clue. OH it is.

[dook]

Do we have any non-regular contributors around ?

[Asturias56]

Give them to 18:00 UK time??

[Flap40]

OK, try this one then.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x426/where_963b5fb6ae49f1b6e6ba17a981424aa33e451646.jpg

[dook]

OK, I'll bite first.

Not UK ?

[chevvron]

Looks like another airfield at top right.

[Self loading bear]

Looks like another airfield at top right.

Looks typical Dutch meadows and acres.
But I do not recognize it in my country.
Therefore Northern Germany is more likely.

Also looks like a typical Luftwaffe concrete slap.
Like their famous Donk-Donk-donk Highways.
But they spread those over whole Europe.

SLB

[Kemble Pitts]

I've seen this place before but can't remember exactly where - but I reckon its approximatelynorthern France.

[Flap40]

Northern France is correct. The area at top right is a golf course.

[JENKINS]

Saint-Valery - Vittefleur?

[Flap40]

Saint-Valery - Vittefleur is correct.

[JENKINS]

Thanks, took me some time to reject Worksop! OH for a while, I do have something ready if no takers.

[sycamore]

Former L`Waffe a/fld...Raced there in F1 in `77..Patrouille were star guests,complete with 11 Maggies and 1 .Noratlas..Shep was there in the RN Seafury...Flying stops at 12,lunch ,mit vino,flying restarts at 2pm..Visit in evening to Monastery in St Val,to taste the local `fortified`,called Benedictine`.followed by `dinner` ,with `fortified`,slept somewhere,...resume further activities on Sunday...fly home ..recover.....before the days of `Display Auths`,flat airfield and countryside......!!!..ILALAFFT !

[JENKINS]

Plus ça change, old bean?

[dook]

I'm here JENKINS, with one ready for my flat show if you wish. You'll need aircraft ID.

[JENKINS]

All yours dook.

[dook]

Please standby - starting no.1......

[dook]

Sorry, but the hosting website says wrong format and refuses to upload, despite the fact that it is a jpg.

No challenge therefore.

[Self loading bear]

Former L`Waffe a/fld...Raced there in F1 in `77..Patrouille were star guests,complete with 11 Maggies and 1 .Noratlas..Shep was there in the RN Seafury...Flying stops at 12,lunch ,mit vino,flying restarts at 2pm..Visit in evening to Monastery in St Val,to taste the local `fortified`,called Benedictine`.followed by `dinner` ,with `fortified`,slept somewhere,...resume further activities on Sunday...fly home ..recover.....before the days of `Display Auths`,flat airfield and countryside......!!!..ILALAFFT !

C’est la vie dans Dijon Darois?

SLB

[JENKINS]

So, this for tonight. I have landed there, even on one occasion to consider a 'cutting out' expedition in relation to a P68 against an unpaid debt. I declined.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1548621060_6448ca298c0a35830d69b1f3d35f27f3ee 10408e.jpg

[JENKINS]

Bed-time in UK. I don't think any regular contributors are familiar with this area. Plenty of clues for tomorrow.

[India Four Two]

Mangrove swamps?

[kaikohe76]

India, Pakistan or possibly Burma as was.?

[JENKINS]

I see that no-one has progressed to the heart of the matter. Certainly water nearby, but cannot affirm mangrove swamps. Not as far East, in terms of Terry's Chocolate Orange segments, as my old chum may surmise.

[dook]

Greece or nearby maybe.

[JENKINS]

Not nearly as classical as Greece. One big hint already there previously as I go shopping. Back soon.

[dook]

I think that clue may be in Terrys Chocolate orange.

Although maybe the P68.

[Asturias56]

Terry's were owned by Kraft (or Mondelez) who aer based in Deerfield Ill, now they're owned by Carmabar who have operations in Poitiers, Paris and Strasbourg . None of those seem to fit the image

So it may just be ORANGES we're looking at - Seville - don't think so ; Tangiers - could be but airport wrong, Satsuma - no airfield

[jensdad]

I'm looking more at 'the heart of the matter'... The papiamento (I think, someone might correct me) word for 'heart' being Curacao?

[JENKINS]

No, Terry's refers solely to the longitudinal chunks which make up the globe of the confectionery. Not South America. I am not very helpful in setting you off on a journey without maps. P68 incidental.

As for Seville, I gave you Cordoba a couple of weeks ago, so no orange there.

[dook]

Mediterranean then ?

[JENKINS]

Wrong water.

[dook]

Further question your honour.

Sea or ocean ?

[JENKINS]

I was expecting that. River outlet into an Ocean.

[dook]

East Africa ?

[sycamore]

Lungi, Sierra Leone,W Africa...OH if correct....

[JENKINS]

Not East Africa. Are you becoming a burnt out case? Do keep looking,

[JENKINS]

Crossed with Sycamore. It is Lungi, across the river mouth from Freetown. My aircraft was at Hastings, hotel at Aberdeen. Clues were in the awkwardly placed titles of Graham Greene novels, for Freetown figured significantly in his WW2 service in Intelligence.

OH declared by Sycamore, who I believe has Hastings aircraft time in his logbook.

[dook]

"Are you becoming a burnt out case?"

No. I'm very busy doing some highly technical drawings on computer for a forthcoming aviation technical manual.

[dook]

I'll have shot for a change.

http://i68.tinypic.com/346b87b.jpg

[Asturias56]

That's a terrible image Dook.....................

[dook]

I agree - I'll take it into Photoshop and see what I can do.

Be with you shortly.

[dook]

Best I can do :

http://i67.tinypic.com/wbb7l5.jpg

[nvubu]

Germany ????

[dook]

Not Germany but it is in Europe

[nvubu]

Sea or lake bottom right?

[dook]

An estuary wee Jimmi………...

[Flap40]

I'll have a punt at Donibristle, now the dormitory town of Dalgety Bay in Fife.

[dook]

And what a corking punt that is.

The thread is yours.

[Flap40]

Thanks. A bit of local knowledge as i only live 2 miles away. There is still a small area of the runway surviving.

OH.

[nvubu]

As no-one has jumped in overnight, Here's a starter for 10.

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[India Four Two]

Looks like a B-24. That doesn't narrow down the location very much!

[Asturias56]

My book on WW2 bombers has a couple of similar striking night time picture of B24's at Willow Run Factory in Michigan.....................

[sidtheesexist]

RAF Harrington?

[nvubu]

Sorry about the delay in replying - work got in the way :)

Thought this would be a good image to start with.

It isn't at the Willow Run Factory in Michigan or at RAF Harrington.

Another image - during the day this time.
https://q1budq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mAwKLOLa0VfOIFIUmxpR3UihTQ7gRqR72RE5iMK8kpucrzzR1Pr1nnqE2b KEKdObnWc12O6K-DAaYGXzxYopafClosJozggoi28Ina62DnNlnlJf_rf8jta1gaMSHmvlse-HD6cw0Lsd13jnbKTriJ705S9CaafEqQXIwiJqZ3_iMmrW-y8X_otLghHGVzTPgdyBgHJsEFHYvaBXPD_mueA?width=1024&height=808&cropmode=none

[dook]

Is it in fact in the UK ?