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Alas, it is not France nor Belgium...remember, I love WWII airfields in Europe...As for the regurlaly spaced buildings, I presume you are referring to the T-shapes? There are still a bunch of them not on the photo...There was a nation whose specialty was extremely extensive dispersal areas...
And to answer Dook, yes the photo is about North up...
Self loading bear
6th Jul 2019, 10:17
Erfuhrt (Bindersleben)?
As clues I will say this arfield is still active and its shape did not significantly change...
Asturias56
6th Jul 2019, 12:55
Is that US bombing?
Ah, I would have believed it was easier the that...You may not like the next one...
Meanwhile, a last clue: "Wilde Sau"
Is that US bombing?
Most probably...airdrome targets had to be bombed by day hence USAAF whereas the RAF was more in night city bombing at the time....
Asturias56
6th Jul 2019, 13:05
But unlikely to be Russian?
Asturias56
6th Jul 2019, 13:10
Bonn Hangelar?
Congrats Asturias! Bonn-Hangelar it is...
This has been quite an important airfield (and it was Bonn city's airfield before the war) during the last months of the war and was home to the infamous "Wilde Sau" system JG300 and JG301 squadrons...Those were daylight single engine fighters sent to down the bombers at night under ground control...Loss rate was impressive, the pilots of these aircraft being not at ease with instrument/night flying, and the weather at night end of 44 was...not good for aircraft without any icing protection...
Asturias you have the helm!
Asturias56
6th Jul 2019, 13:37
Yes - a bit like trying to fly Spitfire at night- not a great idea
Lets go somewhere else although this too had more than its fair share of bombing
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/331x215/2019_07_02_144132_58f1a8bd165e017ff37fb7efbb196be0b9db3bd1.j pg
Good shooting Asturias.
Are we now back in the Pacific area ?
Asturias56
6th Jul 2019, 13:54
If we mean the East yes as opposed to the Pacific Ocean sensu stricto - WW2 yes, but it has seen action at other times as well
I'm off out for a while
I assume the airfield is at the bottom and the aeroplane is bombing shipping, or he's not a very good shot !
Anywhere near New Britain or the Solomans ?
Could it be somewhere in PNG?
minuteman
6th Jul 2019, 14:46
Hello minuteman and welcome.
It is indeed Domodedovo, photographed in 1979.
I assume you are calling OH.
In fact, I have posted a challenge previously but thanks! (was OH indeed but not being presumptious in being correct..)
Not convinced, but Gizo ?
Self loading bear
6th Jul 2019, 17:04
I think Vietnam or Cambodja
Asturias56
6th Jul 2019, 17:57
Ahh let's see
Yes they were probably attacking ships - as well as the airfield - there is a port close by and more or less off the end of the runway centre-line
I couldn't say it is in PNG - but close (-ish)
Not Vietnam or Cambodia
I don't think it ever had international flights but it was a busy enough spot some days
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/417x300/2019_07_02_144930_be2527776438d54dab5347da985824aa1c909856.j pg
Asturias56
6th Jul 2019, 18:00
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/356x290/2019_07_02_144603_0709a87682729d85d8f2741223756640d0939d1a.j pg
I suggested before New Britain or the Solomons.
Pacific Wrecks - great site. :ok:
http://i63.tinypic.com/2e57b7c.jpg
sycamore
6th Jul 2019, 18:59
And to think they operated Hunters there....
Not from that runway I hope.
sycamore
6th Jul 2019, 19:36
try ;`home.kabelfoon.nl/~togeka/Jefman..`
SLB can translate
322 Sdn ,Op. Biak...i
When I found the photo I have posted above, it must be obvious that the site told me it
was Jefman.
Asturias56
6th Jul 2019, 20:18
Ok Sorong Jefman it is
A very odd place - in '62 the dutch almost ought a war over it - legally it was never part of PNG - West Irian was the Indonesian name
The airport was closed in around 2004/05 -too small and the boat trip to Sorong was a real pain.....
I leave it to you to decide who has control!!
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/349x190/2019_07_02_143944_5d4b5e64d77c2e5e96a5fa57c0ff68dd17bd0324.j pg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/542x443/2019_07_02_144411_dc4e0058f7126506932d0cdb23a7295b21ccdce4.j pg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/268x152/2019_07_02_144729_02867b718c9a0c98440dff0312ffea107f43d9e6.j pg
Asturias56
6th Jul 2019, 20:22
When I went there I was told they biggest aircraft they'd had as a Hercules bringing in drilling kit for the oil fields south of Sorong
Quite e few helicopters, lots of Garuda F-28 and he odd Pelita/merpatiti service (shudder...............)
Self loading bear
6th Jul 2019, 20:35
From Jefman (http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~togeka/fotos_jefman_1962.htm)
Dutch Hunters!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/563x418/90e0732a_e287_4311_8009_c72723e5701a_6c26daabcc9d271a1299aa6 04fc94b682f2e4be3.jpeg
Delightful aeroplane - I gave flown three marks of it.
One golden rule - never exceed M0.9 with any flap deployed.
Before doing a four-gun shoot it was necessary to tape over the circuit breakers because the vibration would pop most of them.
100% oxygen was also a good idea because cordite smoke would enter the office !
Asturias56
7th Jul 2019, 08:26
Brilliant picture Bear - hard to imagine Hunters flying from there. The runway wasn't bad - Dc-9's and (a lot of) F-28's used it daily
Bit narrow tho'...... Closed around 2004 when they opened the big new airport behind Sorong so you didn't need to argue with the pirates for the ferry trip (which was admittedly a stunning ride)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/349x190/2019_07_02_143944_6439e597942f8f33f56cf3a1c86a989bba7a70a9.j pg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/790x745/2019_07_02_143916_b2f9863ebba116f70bb0dc7f1004c7e212a3b370.j pg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/168x251/2019_07_02_144451_b04af12604f24ab8027ea65607db5e3c32f234b8.j pg
Not sure who has control.....................
sycamore
7th Jul 2019, 10:06
dook has...every young fighter -pilots dream,tropical island,tropical girls,best jet,beaches all around...I thought it was an abandoned Jap airfield in West Sarawak that we used.They used to use bamboo if the runway was in swampy ground,as they didn`t have PSP.A Twin Pin ended up on it`s nose on one old airstrip...The aircraft in the pic is a P-47...
Asturias56
7th Jul 2019, 10:42
It's actually hotter than hell and plagued by mosquitoes and sand flies... no running water and nowhere to go unless you access to a boat - and Sorong is a bit of dump TBH - God knows what it was like in the early '60's
I take no views on the local ladies........................
Good day/morning/evening.
http://i63.tinypic.com/2lxthte.jpg
Asturias56
7th Jul 2019, 15:59
Almost vertical shadows so somewhere within 40 degrees of the equator
Southern USA?
Self loading bear
7th Jul 2019, 16:07
It's actually hotter than hell and plagued by mosquitoes and sand flies... no running water and nowhere to go unless you access to a boat - and Sorong is a bit of dump TBH - God knows what it was like in the early '60's
I take no views on the local ladies........................
From that Dutch site about Jefman:
The Marine Bofors Gunner was One of the last Dutch to leave in 1962.
In that time Marine Base was quite established with even beer and ice from the fridge.
He went back in 1998 on a reunion trip.
Basically everything that could not be unbolted was still there but not painted or cared for since.
He states that the hangar had collapsed in 2001.
Asturias56
7th Jul 2019, 16:44
Let us guess - a Confederate state?
Not one of them.
That should narrow it down a lot......
Asturias56
7th Jul 2019, 16:49
Bear - regretfully that's the way it is in those parts
But a mate of mine who worked in Jakarta said he knew of a couple of Dutch graves beside an old house above Bogor - right off the beaten track - which dated back to the 1880's - and they were kept immaculately - stone scrubbed down, moss removed and flowers every month - all by the locals . They had no idea who the people were or why it had become something they did but they did do it... no pay, no thanks, no fuss
I's a funny country Indonesia...........
Asturias56
7th Jul 2019, 16:51
A state which was once (or parts of it ) a part of Spain or Mexico?
Asturias56
7th Jul 2019, 17:01
Is the airport still in use?
Asturias56
7th Jul 2019, 17:10
That's going to make it an interesting search..................
Purchased in 1961 for development.
I think that further pursuit of the state might bring dividends.
I am in a secluded country hotel and going for dinner - back in an hour.
sycamore
7th Jul 2019, 17:57
That might be easier to find......
Asturias56
7th Jul 2019, 18:13
Air-Topia South west of Phoenix fits the bill but I can't get a decent image to check
Self loading bear
7th Jul 2019, 19:02
If it is from dook in the USA, you usually must be able to find it in Abandonded and little known Airfields.
Therefore not Air Topia but Airhaven North West of Phoenix.
The Bear is in my six !
Airhaven Phoenix it is.
Shoot SLB.
Self loading bear
7th Jul 2019, 20:05
Thans dook,
a quick one:
Need to go to bed shortly for a long drive tomorrow.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1199x819/994191fa_3aa3_4f05_a186_36088f24e78e_9e5cdd89d41a1edff4b81a8 60eaf84e889f8c645.jpeg
I've seen that before in the USA I'm sure.
Now, where...……..
Yes - correct words in search engine brings it up from a different view.
I'll leave it to someone else
Self loading bear
7th Jul 2019, 20:55
USA must have been a very wild guess!!!!
:D
off to bed till 0400
It wasn't wild.
Let's see who finds it.
Asturias56
8th Jul 2019, 06:57
If it is from dook in the USA, you usually must be able to find it in Abandonded and little known Airfields.
Therefore not Air Topia but Airhaven North West of Phoenix.
That's where I found Air-Topia - but I didn't check out the other Phoenix strips.................... :(
I wonder where the Bear is going today.
Allan Lupton
8th Jul 2019, 08:32
I wonder where the Bear is going today.
Berlin
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/151x248/berlin_a01df7165347ac0356ea564e7ff9da863667d178.png
or Bern?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/200x253/200px_berne_coat_of_arms_svg_53598c4cb9e37ab26a3e61dedaa015e 67a677ef1.png
Perhaps not . . .
Asturias56
8th Jul 2019, 11:18
I was actually at the challenge location in early March.................... I'm out all day so I'll let it go and allow someone else a shot........................:ok:
Sorry, jumped the gun on that, so I'd better name it Fernandina Beach Municipal Airport
On another private site on which I play (not aviation related) if another player confirms an answer in the absence of the OP we carry on so as to avoid a stalled thread.
It seem some players here disagree with that philosophy. I also know the answer to the current challenge.
sycamore
8th Jul 2019, 14:05
Imaginative bit of architecture...thought it may have been at Stratford (CN),but not...
It is indeed and represent an F4U Corsair.
From the ground it's not as obvious as from the air.
Self loading bear
8th Jul 2019, 19:35
Sorry, guys,
I thought it would be a quick one
I checked at 0400 but no answers.
Busy whole day
This appears to be the only way to have my challenges last longer!
Greetings from The Bridge Francais just beside a luxury cargo company.
It would have been all right for me when dook had taken the honor to announce the winner.
Nvubu Fernandina Beach it is
I think the location was known by others fairly quickly, but they decided to leave it for others (me) to search out.
Here is the next challenge that I posted prematurely earlier today.
Three aircraft on fire.
https://ktagew.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m6zXDORQxNe0QywPOfdBVT9MJNoTvM-jp1mkX0QURdioKiKt0WfaEBIpUfk20PW3vS0mxQGQiW9HnkOLfsw90cuorwV 8JJPhilw4I5uOLIAejS6K5ahCwziI0xKTZ_fuHbupPFF5dtZiKLo1QR0JciA IDeBdyGAinAaJ3KchlMaookLib9hFvy32iaJ6c3rbSuNfcjG3Ogv4WURD3tM UHEA?width=785&height=1024&cropmode=none
Perhaps we could look at my post #15319.
grizzled
9th Jul 2019, 04:31
Perhaps we could look at my post #15319.
To what end?
Asturias56
9th Jul 2019, 07:24
NVubu
France??
WW2???
Not France, but it is WW2
Bit quiet this morning :(
Well, I am around having just returned from my country break.
No it isn't part of the Pacific war.
Somewhere near the Russian front ?
At some point it would have been, but i don't think it was when this photo was taken.
Nope.
Will post another image when I get home.
I think these aircraft have been deliberately torched by a retreating force.
Aircraft destroyed during a bombing raid - you can see more bomb bursts at the top of the first image.
Here's another view of this airfield.
https://j1tfca.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mztpx8FJWBY-aTAz3T4vMsLIx1hAS4KXHlXucgZzCoHqqZYr7BfpiRwiuogIeRBxronmGUXI z4F3zd4fn9hTC3ebXRJCbAfr8M81IdX0KyT-G1uYPMurrsw18uF0okDFMYKz14oGO3yQXVYijX6F_tpgw59bBvLGtJrbfwjG c7aQdU8G3l5ah13G90DGZ-lyCIx-9tantU6HMzsz18A-4_Q?width=935&height=1024&cropmode=none
From what you have said I am thinking that it might be in the east of Germany.
One of the various Berlin area fields ?
Sorry misread your previous as east OF Germany
So it is EAST OF Germany and not IN Germany
No probs - I'll start again.
It was no to Poland so maybe what was Czechoslovakia.
sycamore
9th Jul 2019, 22:50
Still visible on GE...? Est.,Lat,Lit,Kalin????
Bit of drift;today I went for a partial airtest in a JP5,with an ex-qwi(WIWOL)...
Between the 3 of us(him,me and JP) we had 190 yrs total ages/flying yrs 152/ 100yrs (him and I),and 30400 hrs flying(3 of us)...
nvubu
10th Jul 2019, 06:28
It is still a very active airfield, but not in any of those locations..
Ramp still present and extended and is now for Terminal 1.
https://anvdka.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mlfCQBjVHq1doA5T3JeFRXz4kCYuo0W1WgSMo66gZaerIR1VgnF1AS3d48 7BI8Se5BXNDHzbAh5Y_mDOigmOnbV1Ma2jN2uID9NtTMoxnyjMzcDylOsdSq jBCtLbn6XN3iKL2-uok_I1X1XubtiqTikzAQPnlKaprpZc89GyLOd_hnGXK_v2WFFoZOci7LZWxK 7kpnvkBEouWBJuhiopT0w?width=1024&height=773&cropmode=none
Asturias56
10th Jul 2019, 07:36
OK - Not pacific War, but East of germany, WW2 - that's still a big area
might have been near the German/Russian front at one time but not when pic taken
Still in use with at least 2 terminals - busy
I'm starting to think maybe St Petersburg? None of the Moscow airports look quite right.............
nvubu
10th Jul 2019, 07:47
Was an Axis Airport.
Asturias56
10th Jul 2019, 08:03
Bratislava?
JENKINS
10th Jul 2019, 09:48
If, Sycamore, it was a proper JP5, add me to that list In thought if not deed.
Anyone looked at Roumania?.
Asturias56
10th Jul 2019, 10:14
Don't think any airport in Romania has 2 terminals.....................
No, but Budapest does, as in my suggested airfield above.
As an edit I should say Ferihegy #1 airfield.
nvubu
10th Jul 2019, 12:16
dook has it with Budapest Ferihegy - the allies had is as Vecses. Wasn't very old when it was bombed - less than a year?
Unintentional link to the previous challenge
designer, who was one of the originators of modern Hungarian architectural art, dreamt of a building which resembled an aircraft from the top-side view.
sycamore
10th Jul 2019, 13:15
Jenks,yes a 4 originally then had nose job to become the first 5..new paint job and 260 at 85% ...claimed .05 IMC looping into cloudbase.... ! Our mutual friend at Thx would be proud of his old `warhorse`....
I don't know why nobody else looked at Hungary for the last one.
http://i66.tinypic.com/k2bo12.jpg
Asturias56
10th Jul 2019, 15:34
I did but I just couldn't see any resemblance between the pictures from 75 years ago and the modern airport - God knows I use it often enough............
Now this challenge - I've seen this in the last month... but where?????????????????????????
Assuming N to top a prevailing W or SW wind from the rubber - and closely spaced small parking - so fighters?
I found it on a site dedicated to Hungary in WW2. One photo showed the whole airfield and the ramp looked exactly like the one posted by nvubu.
The present photo is north orientated and the airfield was mainly fighters.
nvubu
10th Jul 2019, 17:15
The ramp in my last photo is still recognisable today and you can see the terminal "shaped like an aircraft from above" is the same now as it was when it was built. Here's a much larger image where you can zoom right ion to the ramp & terminal - clicky (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20190705_03.jpg)
As to dook's challenge - looks eastern European to me.
If your definition of eastern European is east of Germany then no.
nvubu
10th Jul 2019, 19:36
I meant Warsaw Pact layout, but couldn't think of the phrase :)
Narrows it down to former East Germany, and after a bit of searching - Werneuchen
That's a missile off the rails with Werneuchen.
Over to you again.
nvubu
10th Jul 2019, 20:20
Thank you.
And the next mystery aerodrome
https://mbdfqa.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mCVRwPOO5TkyGFgZ3S1VJpJfqLqEBKkwAZ5Q_xsH1MwjMA3rZBfm-JcNtjB0akV6cBfnSoVz_yv0KjM7lHOUxLwOsjp0xv0-k2wIpuJTOU2EswT069IwQ5Pkfn53FIfIi-4TVXKNP_aaCm0FYFBh1qEPQbf_3S9NP1oH5h5_FjDTmwNJzroQgCxYqFTaKf _Jlgd8hIyntDJYcJB4ySo3Odw?width=1024&height=777&cropmode=none
Looks brand new. American built probably, but is it in the USA ?
nvubu
10th Jul 2019, 21:13
It is brand new, American build, and NOT in the USA.
Here are a couple of images of it being built.
https://zgcrhq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mmWf3o904zEfA1q4ZUUIpcYfwGaFVLEd0N63Xf3SoU-IL4b9otktCMDrvpysUBdoR1_0d7_Gm_Xsox2z3rRUb6t8rG8D4rIGCqV1TBu gg9c4hP5mp_R1-N3YKPD1_rQJaaVU72BMrOhosA-tQ6fzSMBoqQ4tklvMpsw1r0wQDBhuRHJEd3OJgjXYzgOTwZkE99extGXnqvw e6228xXDku-A?width=660&height=465&cropmode=none
https://nonfyg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mAZBbQ8f0SL1sm2UyIeFGr3Rw6wsE-QTWvWPHf2BFllqtlgSJkMf9iV98piODXBg2vZm4vYl2r1vTY8vGPbxVJeZmS 2FUowCOGlIbu-AR8Xf_8JQ2M-h-AjfQ8UEvOnCDiKIulSqSryFAOVfDRfMUu0orKKz3EIemdja11OdgB9UUEUEL 6VZeUsmzEVomWTvWRSQSw5lDqW4QgjaaRON3SQ?width=660&height=458&cropmode=none
sycamore
10th Jul 2019, 21:47
Looks like crushed coral.couple of local wallahs; flying kites in first pic,but looks Indian ocean area...
nvubu
10th Jul 2019, 21:55
It isn't coral, but this
https://n16hbq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mQr7pleSNmFlMCHLkNL3G3p4BzMyX4sGoVSqsyzyRfsdJ6_LVCcUxZlWJS K5hk8TZffI7-Unii8nT-lBh1xCqzZkOnCKVqC_fZAfQZeQBkzJ7wIRICiBdh2xXLEKpOCVgcgESrWlRk Ndj2f8fTFAn6FFeZn1IK9zHRCb7-R66wXbIaUk-9-TOjdH-3Ker01BO1bUm-fiNAofwTMRHGeniqw?width=660&height=473&cropmode=none
The trees may point you towards the continent.
India Four Two
11th Jul 2019, 06:39
Baobab trees. Africa?
Dora-9
11th Jul 2019, 10:15
Boabab trees are found in Africa, Madagascar and NW Australia - nvubu's photos are certainly not taken in Australia.
nvubu
11th Jul 2019, 10:24
We are Africa.
Looking at the range of the tree
The northern limit of its distribution in Africa is associated with rainfall patterns; only on the Atlantic coast and in the Sudan does its occurrence venture naturally into the Dahel.
So I think that rules out North West Africa - but maybe you should define what you think is NW Africa.
sycamore
11th Jul 2019, 10:25
Think this is along the Ferry route from Natal so it could be early Dakar,Bathurst,,Monrovia....
nvubu
11th Jul 2019, 11:11
sycamore is close (geographically) with one of these suggestions.
What is now called Senegal ?
nvubu
11th Jul 2019, 11:19
Yes in Senegal
No real trace of it now on GE, but if you use the history function it does reappear.
nvubu
11th Jul 2019, 11:50
Nope - Kaolack still has an Airport visible.
The mystery one is clearly recognisable in the 1984 -> 2010 overheads. Bit more indistinct after that due to a road péage being built through it.
Trying all that I can see.
Linguere ?
nvubu
11th Jul 2019, 12:08
If you find the péage, you will definitely find this airfield.
sycamore
11th Jul 2019, 13:18
Nguith...?
I have found what looks like an old airfield a coupe of miles NE of Rufisque.
It seems it was called Eknes Field.
nvubu
11th Jul 2019, 13:52
Not there, the péage is to the north of de Saly.
Have you missed a post or two ?
JENKINS
11th Jul 2019, 14:44
I have found reference to Eknes Field, as described by Dook, in USAAF writings.
nvubu
11th Jul 2019, 15:15
Sorry, I missed a couple of posts when the page changed. Am at work so refresh the page every now and then - sometimes I miss the new page :)
dook has it with Rufisque.
I'm not 100% sure regarding it being called Eknes field as the documents I've found state that Eknes Field was a French Airforce base in existence before the US built the runway, whereas the images I have do show a "new" facility - buildings etc.. I've also found references to a "Mallard Field" also in Senegal on the Natal route (link (http://445bg.org/route-to-war.html))- but am not sure where this is.
I wasn't 100% sure if sycamore's guess with "early Dakar" was technically correct, but thought I'd push for a more accurate name/location.
You had me a bit disconcerted there.
http://i67.tinypic.com/28mirk1.jpg
nvubu
11th Jul 2019, 17:13
Sorry about that - interestingly if you type Senegal Peage into Google Earth/Maps, it takes you straight to the airfield.
Your challenge - Japanese airfield on an island?
sycamore
11th Jul 2019, 18:52
Big island/Borneo/PNG, or small island.....?
Small island part of PNG.
sycamore
11th Jul 2019, 20:54
Catbalogan,Semirara island....?
We're not in the Philippines.
Go the other way.
evansb
12th Jul 2019, 00:12
Tobera, "Rabaul Number 4", near Keravat, East New Britain?
evansb hits Tobera.
Please take the thread.
evansb
12th Jul 2019, 12:22
Thank you dook. I would love to take the "thread", but my photo data base is so basic, PPRruner's would identify the aerodrome in 5 seconds. I hereby declare an OPEN HOUSE.
Why not post anyway - you never know.
evansb
12th Jul 2019, 13:03
Okay. Give me a few minutes.
evansb
12th Jul 2019, 13:24
https://cdn.dvidshub.net/media/thumbs/photos/1302/840177/1000w_q95.jpg
I have found a different photo of it - Washington DC.
The trick often is to use the word "airplane" and not aeroplane of aircraft.
If Washington is correct it will be OH.
evansb
12th Jul 2019, 19:19
North American F-82 Twin Mustang. Location? Probs. It is your turn. i.e. OPEN HOUSE.
Cheers.
I have called OH.
evansb
12th Jul 2019, 22:06
https://media.spokesman.com/photos/2017/11/05/NorthwestAirlinesFelts_t1200.jpg?298603a24e8d51915fce203907f f2746e482a5a6
Asturias56
13th Jul 2019, 07:40
Think its a Lockheed 10 Electra but I'm damned if I can find a registration NC149xx that was allocated serial 71
Presumably NW USA?
nvubu
13th Jul 2019, 07:52
Speedway Field?
The aeroplane belonged to Northwest Airlines. Continuing search.
nvubu
13th Jul 2019, 08:12
Ignore my previous - Felts Field, Spokane. Hangar still exists.
evansb
13th Jul 2019, 08:26
nvubu is correct. Felts Field, KSFF, Spokane, Washington, U.S.A. The birth-place of crooner Bing Crosby. Your turn.
nvubu
13th Jul 2019, 09:11
Thank you.And the next.
https://knd8eg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mIXVOezKS6fynRe1YcPjhsBkUUE-2lDafv3F7i5DiK60oJhRGNj3dLFHmS_b3LhcIssXzcEAAR0Ao3Ayn9ZIK5LQ 9DWM68dD4IJm5D548iDvrWkdKeLkxdOuvaTd3uLuq2b6XjDonyrN-AzgANME7JGg2lgx5aeV9b_AlEinz9AF5xzBWnNSv7mychlVZ_bKeplgQnbJN GR-Zl2jzC2G_XQ?width=1024&height=1015&cropmode=none
Good grief.
Is that a Caribou ?
evansb
13th Jul 2019, 09:14
Churchill, Manitoba ?
nvubu
13th Jul 2019, 09:24
Not Churchill, Manitoba, and no it isn't a Caribou
I don't suppose the aircraft type will help, but is it a CASA 295 somewhere in Canada ?
nvubu
13th Jul 2019, 09:53
The aircraft type might help.
https://ps3zpg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mgjRSFwA2A-PpKq_QdWk1vE9nRdvJApltKQXQymb40gacJvur2BFrszans7IZwt1cciLCmg 3J8x5O8BN0skmYJPZtFydm9x0CyFX1NDbyNy4ooO_vwFN8QP4DiJ6duysM9R vizpyAYL6Al41eAtz2e8bO8BZPZEh-7YXvmezzdiCJo2XayhMAWv8VqbCdJst6djbNYYU8pW6ekQ16x8rG5w?width =1024&height=992&cropmode=none
Not in Canada
Thanks - got the aeroplane.
Anything to do with a polar expedition ?
nvubu
13th Jul 2019, 10:14
Thought you might.
Yes to polar
I don't think this will last much longer - better show some more of the photos I've prepared :ok:
https://yovs4g.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mN3w7P2xwwbJYNoX2B2KlkO_qvuUMhE0y5q0Sm_OpPsJ9bo0IoN1yZbWw-4tlNESH-hGDIbHt7dqIt8jdJL_6bjncI8mIWw2iUvxdsb6wxkcfQVfGNo7aIxYqSxxNe 1LxyZYFwHolgSavfbzvbCBj5ArsIQw4TjBIVlq7Zu3TxKwbzuUva8WXayJMq vRwVCxHAjRC1rNQGLDkAgffmRuU6g?width=1024&height=686&cropmode=none
mmmm
Antarctica ?
This aeroplane crashed at McMurdo.
nvubu
13th Jul 2019, 10:18
You have the correct Pole
larger version here (http://www.nvubu.co.uk/pprune/20190713_05.jpg)
https://ahu4ka.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mtsy6zlsZD8-zxjbIoNB0oTvX185JOgcPMVzby6D9EMOR6ZKL_Ur_9KdeiGGP0TlpCYu-V79vikjwv64DOxrcMnmBmVnx0cCYVK3dmg1I38fjAF5c6eFjkhtKiwzbA7WG aUffC0FvgIX79BMQAW5vj7n3oPVgPd4MNr6_xUuiuQKREcjz1GpR9VJJdVi_ GtzTMlIYDB_cm3saIgOBr_9aEQ?width=1024&height=873&cropmode=none
All I can find at the moment is Site D59, which doesn't tell much.
nvubu
13th Jul 2019, 10:30
It isn't D59
You may be overlooking the obvious location
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https://kndqeg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mwacaeU0rahdPQyB7IX7--X4cvBW-nZca59o-8TOrtBEvyz6Qgkt7SBIJziA_hZ6xLcTCgRL23ulOlQcyDRSu1VrPPksGif3f wmyKpGCevVaIeoQlZViM6_RRZ_RlHaIhHddyQ02iLZ7dKIqeSEz2cH7EkKzS ewfa_M8BCmWyOsl_-1A6QTSe_F6NsPt3vWANleA-G6cPyg5_jB41rS4ZWQ?width=665&height=1024&cropmode=none
nvubu
13th Jul 2019, 10:43
No it isn't the South Pole. - should have said AN obvious location rather than THE
https://jvtyca.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mI6nxYXjPLIdYRu8vZRFXO2yIkmhJ73Luh1WrzssD__JxKzQH93aCcc2JB I2la_VvOx5IqwJK5vt4jd2XR-I4gJEyMpk06IEFnfY_nAX84N5eZA03T_ZbrQJ5gzBw4og75pBr6oTRgJBd1L BvXO-zFJQu0VKrD7LECHDOh2TwICY4IGqedhG9wgZcHLsS7gdZhPtXoO_4MW3H62D cUf8zXQ?width=1024&height=588&cropmode=none
I mentioned McMurdo before, so it isn't there, although to dumbo here that's an obvious one.
evansb
13th Jul 2019, 11:45
Summit Camp, Greenland ?
nvubu
13th Jul 2019, 13:08
Your post didn't mention McMurdo when I replied to it, but I see that it does now. I hadn't been back to re-read it before. :(
It is Williams Field at McMurdo - so dook has it.
The Red containers are called Plateau Station Vans and were used at Plateau Station between 1966 and 1969 - and were left there when the station was mothballed.
https://jvtvca.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mX3ajhkiWbO88dQhensLvZzgX3XB2dscldLaLfTAY-tCtk8vOZzkVaqTH4zThvgRB2IYAyTJDm-e4otewPELRinlyeyayVTd05BcNGocYohHtdmbsSaONC1-wzexLbZZkdqly4_B9ZMCaEoZnetUb7YY9n-WmXgLRdU-5F7-PTXfnO0gkGKwAm2Y0rqhmtFTWtwahoZJBYRNlW0By2JFR0Q?width=1024&height=317&cropmode=none
You had me intrigued there - I was out of ideas.
http://i63.tinypic.com/zy7f2o.jpg
sycamore
13th Jul 2019, 16:40
Our side,their side or the underside...?
sycamore
13th Jul 2019, 17:57
First letter of the state is...?
Still there,visible on GE...?
Good day all.
I expect the Bear to get this.
JENKINS
14th Jul 2019, 09:29
The Empire struck back quite effectively, I gather, from a 'drome at Grigno?
Self loading bear
14th Jul 2019, 13:08
I cut Sycamore some slack to figure it out in his own time and pace. But as being challenged directly I will pin it down to Harlem airport, western Chicago Illinois.
The Empire struck back quite effectively, I gather, from a 'drome at Grigno?
Not sure what you mean by that?
SLB
I had no idea what he meant either !
However, you have got Harlem and it's all yours.
Self loading bear
14th Jul 2019, 14:23
Thanks Dook!
I studied shipbuilding in the real Haarlem.
In the same building as the bachelor school of aircraft building.
Now both long gone from Haarlem.
I hope to have interpreted Jenkins correctly?
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/747x297/a13b0a13_7005_468c_a19e_a03055ee3f9b_a8c749285f47c82e6731b42 0818c1de063e41eac.jpeg
If you are able to interpret Jenkins comment then your English is better than mine !!
sycamore
14th Jul 2019, 14:55
That was on the one page I missed,or had gone to sleep...
I think the challenge is in Europe, but certainly not Nederland !
I'm looking at that guys' uniform.
sycamore
14th Jul 2019, 15:39
Mediterranean...Turkey...?
Asturias56
14th Jul 2019, 16:13
Think I've been there - Bolzano, South Tyrol?
Self loading bear
14th Jul 2019, 16:28
Ceasar Asturias strikes back.
Bolzano is the closest Aerodrome to Grigno in the Roman Empire.
Ceasar has control
SLB
Asturias56
14th Jul 2019, 16:36
Belissimo!! The uniform was rather a give away.............. and although I've never flown in here the mountains were the final clue
Nice to go up there in summer when it gets a bit hot in the Cities of the Plain :cool:
Somewhere completely different
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/738x430/2019_07_10_164416_1fc54a15bca03ee825939a0d85958d1315163591.j pg
Asturias56
14th Jul 2019, 16:56
No, certainly not Europe - not a major spot! everyone helps out.................
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/427x598/2019_07_10_164520_b8bfaa5431d91ff1f0c00a29ce02f5751165b5f9.j pg
I think he's wearing a mask.
Far east or India ?
Asturias56
14th Jul 2019, 17:36
No neither........................ off out for dinner..........
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/393x315/2019_07_10_164629_8084f94a8f1719eb57eaa673c8e71ba7b14c5b76.j pg
Not a major spot and everyone helps out.
Sounds a bit third world but not India or the far east.
South America then ?
edit: flying club I suggest.
Asturias56
15th Jul 2019, 07:25
Yes South America
On visiting I was amazed to discover that this apparently peaceful spot spent the first 80 years post Independence fighting both their neighbours and internally (often at the same time) followed by another 80 of terrible internal conflict - all of which the outside world knows little . Luckily the last 30 or so have been peaceful. In fact the country only figures in world history because of a few days of violence which they had nothing to do with and suffered no casualties
Before Dook posts the answer here's another couple of pictures
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/419x256/2019_07_10_164353_bd10eee1f465cb44c8fcf66739cc5cdb82b97972.j pg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/481x239/2019_07_10_164112_0a9305e782e4bb2599f1c6baf7d1b729205383b1.j pg
Yes - quite an interesting history.
The search trick was "xxxxx xxxxx aeroclub".
Asturias56
15th Jul 2019, 08:31
probably best you name it and we can start a new day.............................
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/579x441/2019_07_10_164445_57cc4f761bb54132003a19f91abf3abd46e0edbf.j pg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/681x352/2019_07_10_164018_b4a97d7563d703eb91f432f1c1bd272f5cde1aa1.j pg
I didn't mention the Graf Spee.
I was waiting for someone else to have a shot.
Aeroclub Maragato Uruguay.
Asturias56
15th Jul 2019, 09:23
Yes - San Juan de Mayo .... a bucolic but pleasant spot..............
So once again maestro!! :ok:
Thank you.
I was only working on a hunch and was lucky to find it on the web.
How was dinner ?
http://i66.tinypic.com/r73mdd.jpg
Asturias56
15th Jul 2019, 10:33
Dinner was fine - food was great but the waiter was useless - one of those youngsters who think they'll impress by remembering the whole order for 5 people without making a note and ........... we spend the rest of the evening sorting out who gets what..... sort of Lucky Dip really......
The image, well established built up over a while with all those hangars - looks like WW1 bell tents behind - so lets try W Front 1916-18?
It was in use from 1911 to the 1920's, so yes to WW1.
However, it was not on the western front.
Asturias56
15th Jul 2019, 11:16
Looks like France?
sycamore
15th Jul 2019, 11:19
Walliams passed by here...much later....feeling blue..
jensdad
15th Jul 2019, 13:41
David Walliams swam the channel a few years ago I seem to remember. Could it be somewhere near Calais? OK, I'll take a punt... the airfield that was to become the modern-day Calais Airport?
It's not in France.
I think there is a clue in the post by sycamore.
oxenos
15th Jul 2019, 14:30
Guston Road Dover
Well, you have now found the correct country.
Kemble Pitts
15th Jul 2019, 18:42
Port Meadow, Oxford? I fly over it every Sunday.
OH if correct.
Cracking shot KP.
KP has called OH.
JENKINS
15th Jul 2019, 19:35
Kicked out of pub on the river there in 1964 for singing Welsh hymns.
Now this. Enough flags? I see none, so putting out more might be relevant.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1440x1080/earth_postcard_1549020678_92e1ba3ab434b238287dcd7c6fdc2db126 e25751.jpg
sycamore
15th Jul 2019, 20:23
JENKS,thought you and dook might have been to `skool` nearby...?
JENKINS
15th Jul 2019, 20:28
No,long way from my school. My school days peppered with drone of Hercules motors. I must confess to a modicum of study close to Portmeadow in later years, as any fule kno.
jensdad
15th Jul 2019, 23:47
It's one of the dual civil / military airfields in Northern Norway. Evenes, I think? (puzzled as to the 'putting out the flags' allusion, but cryptic crosswords aren't my forte...)
Asturias56
16th Jul 2019, 07:38
Certainly looks like it
The "put out more flags" refers to Evelyn Waughs novel of the same name:-
"The title of this biting and deeply cynical novel about the beginning of World War II among the “smart set” of aristocrats in England comes from a translation of a Chinese epigram that gives the following cynical advice quoted and translated by Lin Yutang in The Importance Of Living: “And a drunk military man should order gallons [of alcohol] and put out more flags in order to increase his military splendor.”
As many writers do, the author (who despite his name was an Englishman [1]) made the comment that the characters in the book are not based on any real people. This seems hard to believe, as Waugh was a deeply satirical and bitingly witty novelist and the decadent elites, regardless of their political ideology, are too true to life to be entirely imaginary. There are likely some people who were very upset when they saw themselves skewered by the witty author in this book. One can feel the burn even without knowing who it is directed towards.
The book consists of three “chapters,” consisting of Autumn 1939, Winter 1939-1940, and Spring 1940, with a brief epilogue about Summer 1940. There are numerous interrelated plot lines centered around the ne’er do-well Basil Seal and his various schemes and his foppish Jewish catamite friend Ambrose Silk, who spends the novel mourning the loss of his German Brown Shirt lover to the anti-Semitism to the concentration camps after their relationship is denounced in prewar Munich. This is decidedly dark material for a comic novel.
That said, it is very funny, if one has a sardonic and cynical sense of humor. The material for comedy in this book includes the unexpected pregnancy and drunkenness of a married woman (whose husband was a poor but decent and creative man) from an affair with said Basil Seal, whose husband dies in an act of rare bravery in frozen Norway during Spring 1940 in the face of an overwhelming German assault, the pointless squabbles of the leftist fake Communists over questions of art and literature and their political meaning, the political posturing of various ineffectual aristocrats looking for positions of leadership in the growing British armed forces, and the attempts by Basil Seal to profit economically from moving around three feral and waifish evacuees named the Connollies, whose boisterous behavior makes them entirely unsuitable guests at house after house. If you like biting and satirical British novels showing corrupt human nature in wartime, this is a suitable black comedy to read, and reread, in moments of extreme cynicism."
JENKINS
16th Jul 2019, 07:55
Yes, Evened or one of its other names which is Narvik. My sole visit involved landing at this end while half-way down the strip was complete white-out. Royal Navy in the back I remember.
Good book, although I fear Waugh was a frightful snob and I am a dreadful cynic.
To Jensdad, and good morning.
jensdad
16th Jul 2019, 09:33
A good morning to you all, Thanks for the resume of the novel, Asturias. Must confess, I've never read anything by Waugh.
Thank you JENKINS, see if anyone can get this one... Someone will know this, I'm pretty sure:
Final approach to where?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/75x640/2010_06_25_reykjavik_copy_75x640__758abb401622315febe8690980 939635d0b736fe.jpg
Good morning to you jensdad.
That church has appeared on a private "where is it" site that I use.
I am going back through the posts to try to locate it - it might take a while.
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 10:09
Mornin' all.
Reykjavik I'll be bound.
Aircraft is on Final for 19 at BIRK
….and I just found it :mad:
Frikirkjam i Reykjavik
Asturias56
16th Jul 2019, 13:31
Unfortunately if you click on the image and hits SAVE AS (so you can blow it up) it shows "2010_06_25_reykjavik_copy_75x640__758abb401622315febe8690980 939635d0b736fe.jpg"
Which i thought was a bit of a give away - just noticed otherwise I'd have PM's JENSDAD to tell him..............
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 14:16
You have my word, Sir that I did not solve it by those means. Although it's a good reminder that people can make howler mistakes like that.
I guessed Icelandic and my process of elimination began there.
Good to be back.
OH - in the best spirit of the game.
Asturias56
16th Jul 2019, 14:46
Aux - I absolutely accept your word - I never thought you'd done so for a minute - it would take away the whole point of playing.
I just wanted to point out to people that they should check their images before posting......... I was about to search around Bergen TBH
Aux should take up the the challenge which I think he's won fair & square
The last time I suggested that a confirmation from someone other than the OP was acceptable I was shot down, despite it being a fair idea.
We must now wait for confirmation from jensdad
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 15:51
The last time I suggested that a confirmation from someone other than the OP was acceptable I was shot down, despite it being a fair idea.
We must now wait for confirmation from jensdad
Of course.
After Asturias' most gracious reply I retract my OH and I have a challenge awaiting the thread's indulgence.
Excellent - I look forward to it.
jensdad
16th Jul 2019, 17:57
Hello auxtank, it is indeed Reykjavik, with a Flugfelag Islands Fokker 50 making a photogenic approach over the lake and church.
I will agree with asturias on this occasion that when the poster has been stupid enough not to change the name of the photo, it would have been fair enough to move on with the thread. I'll be renaming from now on :)
Looking forward to your challenge, auxtank!
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 18:18
Hello auxtank, it is indeed Reykjavik, with a Flugfelag Islands Fokker 50 making a photogenic approach over the lake and church.
I will agree with asturias on this occasion that when the poster has been stupid enough not to change the name of the photo, it would have been fair enough to move on with the thread. I'll be renaming from now on :)
Looking forward to your challenge, auxtank!
Thanks jensdad - I didn't see the file name on this occasion because I haven't played for a while and forgot that that can be a very quick way to a sly victory - albeit a hollow one at that.
I accept the win - thank you - and nominate jensdad to have another go!
I shall keep my challenge for another day...
jensdad
16th Jul 2019, 18:51
Hi auxtank, that's very gracious of you, but I trust that you solved the challenge by fair means. I haven't got anything handy at present so I'll throw it back to you (did you say you had another challenge ready to go?) If you would rather call Open House that will also be fine by me.
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 19:03
Hi auxtank, that's very gracious of you, but I trust that you solved the challenge by fair means. I haven't got anything handy at present so I'll throw it back to you (did you say you had another challenge ready to go?) If you would rather call Open House that will also be fine by me.
Thanks jensdad, what magnificent fairplay demonstrated by all on this thread.
Here we go lads.
V1, Rotate...
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 19:03
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/648x453/dfgdfdf_ef56086b9a60dd1c00b462ae6677bc9579acced2.jpg
OK Ill get the ball rolling.
USA ?
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 19:18
OK Ill get the ball rolling.
USA ?
Yah!
Continental US of A.
(Positive Rate...Gear Up!)
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 19:26
…..and check reheat....
You lucky bu**er in your EE!
All I'm checking at this point is:
Eng Bleeds
Packs (so the little darlings out the back are comfortable)
Gear Up and Off
Flaps Up, No Lights.
You'd be supersonic at this point no doubt and breaking green-house glass below.
Thanks for the sentiments - 'twas fun in the old days - I was 21 when I first got my paws on the beast.
Had to get the gear up fast or you'd trap the nosewheel at 250.
Are we in Georgia ?
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 19:46
Thanks for the sentiments.
Based on total envy dook.
I would have loved to have flown the Lightning more than anything - but would have probably crashed horribly. Huge Respect to you.
Describe in one sentence what she was like to fly.
Negative; Georgia.
Extremely forgiving - short of fuel on start up - you could actually see the fuel gauges moving in burner - exhilarating - breathtaking climb performance.
Zat enough ?
Are we in Georgia ?
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 19:55
Extremely forgiving - short of fuel on start up - you could actually see the fuel gauges moving in burner - exhilarating - breathtaking climb performance.
Zat enough ?
Are we in Georgia ?
Wonderfully concise description. Nice one.
No, we ain't in Georgia.
(CRZ PWR selected on FMC at FL 360) Pax pissed and happy or sleeping. CC bitching amongst themselves. I want a cup of coffee so will have to leave the fate of the aircraft to the CP - Fate Is The Hunter - Standard flight.
Going up...
http://i68.tinypic.com/33tplio.jpg
Auxtank
16th Jul 2019, 20:08
Wish I could do that in an A320 just to shut the Pax up.
That's very you.
Your challenge I would describe as GA and the R/W doesn't seen to be in great condition.
Northern USA ?