Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[skytrain10]

Reg, not sure what's happening on the thread, but is yours the Dayton-Wright OW-1?

Edit to say welcome Flying Bull and nice to see a new name:ok:. But please only post when (a) its declared Open House or (b) you have identified the previous challenge.
The object is to solve one challenge and then move on to the next, and so on.

[Flying Bull]

Sorry, didn´t go through all the 1558 pages of the first thread and all of the second.
So I will try to identify one - before posting another one.
Skytrain is right - and I´m realy impressed!!!!!
Greetings Flying Bull

[Flying Bull]

sorry, far away from (W)right ;-)
Greetings Flying Bull

[Lightning Mate]

.......incoming......http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/worry.gif

[RegDep]

Reg, not sure what's happening on the thread, but is yours the Dayton-Wright OW-1?

To your first: Me neither. :uhoh:
To your second: Yes :ok:
To Flying Bull: Halt! Ordnung muss hier sein! :=

Over to Skytrain :D

EDIT: Hi Flying Bull, Welcome to the thread! Please read this, and stay with us!
http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/311746-what-cockpit-what-aerodrome-latest-lists.html#post3884576

[skytrain10]

Flying Bull, yours is the Do-31 I believe.

Flying Bull, it is best that you delete your post as it will cause confusion. Please click on the sticky "what cockpit and what aerodrome lists" where you will find the guidelines for Silhouette Challenge. Hope you can stay with us and play along:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

This is getting silly!

I posted "incoming" after post #1755 and it jumped to post 1754!!!

Looks like we may have trouble this afternoon. :ugh:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Reg. A good challenge. Back to work now so will have to be Open House.

Flying Bull, see you have dropped offline but hopefully you will be back.

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/shamblestoday.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Bugger... again .... beat me to it!!!!!

[HappyPass]

Oh, well...

http://energykitesystems.net/hgh/images/RichardMillerConduitCondor1971May23.jpg

Richard Miller's Conduit Condor

[Lightning Mate]

Sometimes I just give up!!

All yours mate. :ok:

[HappyPass]

Thanks,

next...
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3711/scchallenge.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/scchallenge.jpg/)

(now, ok, that's easy, I know, but don't post the answer before the challenge... ;))

[Ridge Runner]

OK, HP. A nice one....

A prototype? Built or just a project?
A seaplane of sorts (I guess they are sponsons at the wingtips?)

RR

[Lightning Mate]

Why is the fuselage bent?

Pusher at the back or on a pylon?

[HappyPass]

1) photo sucks. Plus it's on water, so asymmetrical fuselage due to difficulty to discern where it ends and the reflections start.
2) built, we could say it flew, never entered production.
3) propeller is a pusher on an adjustable shaft... ;)

4) oh, and, obviously a seaplane

[Noyade]

Morning!

Dornier Do-212...?

[Lightning Mate]

A jet mate?

[HappyPass]

...The sniper from downunder strikes again! :D
All yours Graeme!

[Lightning Mate]

Graeme,

Prune has placed my question before your image at post 1768!!!

...and this post before it as well. :ugh:

[Noyade]

Thanks HP.

Shouldn't take long....

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5070/img053ql.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/97/img053ql.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Beware Graeme.

Posts have been appearing in the wrong order all morning/evening, so keep looking above your challenge.

It's just happened again....:ugh::ugh::ugh:

[Noyade]

A jet mate?

Sorry mate I didn't see that post?!

Yes, a jet....

[Noyade]

Posts have been appearing in the wrong order all morning/evening, so keep looking above your challenge.

Crazy stuff!

Okay. A photo clue, you answer it....then I'm outta here....

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4397/images9886617.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/images9886617.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

British?......

Gloster E28/39?

[Noyade]

British?......

Yes. A very famous British jet....

[Lightning Mate]

Look up.....

[Noyade]

Gloster E28/39?

:ok:

Your control David. :)

Night mate! Hope the forum sorts this out by tomorrow?

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate.

Goggled "bifurcated duct intake".

:zzz: well.

[Lightning Mate]

I see lots of you on thread, so this one should go quite quickly.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wossis-2.jpg

[RegDep]

Errm… Ahem… Where is the wing?

An Avia of sorts?

[Lightning Mate]

It's a low wing and you can see the trailing edge just aft of the rear gear strut.

Not an Avia.

[RegDep]

two-seat, low-wing, wire-braced, monoplane. Anzani?

Not Morane-Saulnier, but French anyhow?

[Lightning Mate]

Strut-braced - not French.

Anzani - yes.

2 seat - yes.

[Lightning Mate]

Wanna date?

[RegDep]

Why not. 1925 +- 3?

[Lightning Mate]

Spot on mate. :ok:

Designed late 1925, first flight 1926.

[RegDep]

Drzewiecki JD-2

Has an interesting history.

[Lightning Mate]

:D:D

All yours. :ok:

(going home - catch you later)

[RegDep]

Thanks Mate.

Here's my next offering

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/luchtvaart.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

French, I believe Reg?? A Caudron 630?

[RegDep]

Your belief has led you to the correct path RR.

It is Caudron 630.

Over to you :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks mate...

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune220811A.jpg

(decided to break my duck!)

[evansb]

Cessna UC-78/AT-8/AT-17/T-50/JRC-1/T-1 Crane? Bobcat? ?

[HappyPass]

Is it British? or at least European?
I have some vague memories, but cannot bring them to a focus...

Edit: there it goes again with that annoying bug...

[Ridge Runner]

No, Brian, sorry

Edit: close, though!

[HappyPass]

Not even a Beech model 26?

posted at 18.22 CET

[skwinty]

Avro Anson?

[HappyPass]

There's that windshield that bothers me...
...and the fact that I've seen this very photo before, I remember the shape of the rear fuselage.
Gosh, I hate it when my memory isn't up to the job... :uhoh:

[skwinty]

Ripon C-2 Transport?

[RegDep]

How old are you, in fact HP? :E

[evansb]

The photo was posted here awhile ago, and originated from a San Diego Archive, which misidentified the aircraft. I think...

[HappyPass]

That means a c**ptacular 100k-odd photos to look at... :\
I need something to drink... :p

[skwinty]

Bristol 142, I saw that as a Ripon C-2?

[HappyPass]

Who knows, maybe I'm mistaking this one with the Gloster F.9/37 (which is an H-tail) because of the general appearance of the nose and engine pods...
Anyway, time for a good dinner!

[RegDep]

Bristol 142

A Blenheim ……… :uhoh:

[RegDep]

I'll plead no contest.

I had thought that Bristol 142M was Bristol Blenheim. But Bristol 142 Britain First has been dubbed as "the sire of the Bristol Blenheim". Go figure all that out. I think we need RR to sort the mess out :{.

[skwinty]

Wasn't the 143 the prototype for the Blenheim?

:hmm:

[skwinty]

No need to :{ about a short nosed pig.:E

I looked at this to make the Bristol call, should have said type 143, but on seeing photos now I am probably wrong as the landing gear has panels attached.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/bristol_142_britain_first_england_1935-36327.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Hello all!

None of the above!!!!!:E ...including EvansB's offerings!

RR

[RegDep]

So where are we? Oh yes. On our way to bed. Good night!

And about the time to do so (this was the response to #1814 :mad:).

[HappyPass]

You still didn't answer my #1795 post (maybe because it went before your last one at that time)... :E

Edit: thanks...

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry, mate ...


Is it British? or at least European?
I have some vague memories, but cannot bring them to a focus...

Edit: there it goes again with that annoying bug...


No!!!!! :)

[Noyade]

Evening!

Beechcraft AT-10 Wichita ?The photo was posted here awhile ago, and originated from a San Diego Archive, which misidentified the aircraft. I think... Hi Brian, I'd swear on a stack of bibles you posted this challenge image (not that long ago) and yes it was the AT-10? But for the life of me I can't find it in the old thread. At the time I asked you(?) if it could be the Nakajima J5NI and you replied with something along the lines of "no, but I can understand why you thought that".

I must be going nuts?!

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/7859/pprune220811a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/pprune220811a.jpg/)
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/327/img055a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/img055a.jpg/)



Is it Japanese Martin?!

[RegDep]

Graeme, that was identified at the time by the poster, Brian, as Cessna UC-78 (the Bobcat). #26402 on 30 May 2011. Brian's Photobucket got full and he has deleted a lot of his old challenges…..

I must be going nuts?!

This time, I think not.

[HappyPass]

Hey folks, HP to the rescue here!!!
I save almost all the pages in which I have posted something (that's paranoid, I know...)
So I went back and browsed through my archive and... that's where I saw it!!!

TA-DAH!
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7423/458797196248becaf704o1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/458797196248becaf704o1.jpg/)

You can check the filename (minus the chars added by ImageShack, that is) against the one on page 1321, SC Mk.I.
Then how come the same picture is posted by evansb and id-ed as a Bobcat and then reappears and it's not that anymore? What's yer source, RR?

...at least I found where I saw that the first time... :O


Edit: that's not a Bobcat fer shure, look at the cockpit ceiling/canopy, it can be opened!!!

[evansb]

Here it is, a Cessna AT-8, near similar photo.
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1788/abohis19400.jpg

[RegDep]

I am gone. Too much for me for one night :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

[HappyPass]

Nite y'all, I'm off to bed too... :zzz:

[skytrain10]

I confess I am a little confused, but there again have had a long day. My first thought was a Bobcat, but looking closer the nose appears too short for a Bobcat and the canopy looks wrong. Would it the Cessna P-10?

[evansb]

As the challenge photo aircraft is devoid of markings, perhaps it is the prototype AT-8 that first flew in March of 1939. Production models didn't come on stream until one year later. The landing gear, nacelle lines, cowling, engine shroud, wing dihedral, antenna insulators, tail, tail wheel position, lower fueslage line, and elevator position and stabiliser proportion all agree with other Cessna AT-8s. The nose shape and canopy fenestration does appear somewhat different.. As a juror, I would vote for it being a Cessna.

[SincoTC]

Just returned from a long day too and have come to the same conclusion as skytrain regarding the possibility of the Cessna P-10, mainly due to the description of the nose and canopy. I could only find a single picture from an entirely different angle, but notice the ADF antenna behind the cockpit and the protruberance on the tip of the fin visible in both Martin's and this image!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/p10l.jpg



To compete with Curtiss’ higher-performance AT-9 twin-engine trainer, Cessna designed and built the prototype P-10. This one-and-only P-10 (registration number NX34751) was an experimental two-place trainer completed on October 4, 1941, and first flown two days later. When Cessna was unable to interest the AAF in these new designs, they dismantled both the P-10 and P-7 prototypes on October 14, 1942.

[evansb]

You identified it! Well done!:D The hitherto unheard-of Cessna P-10.
We can all rest well now, gentlemen. :)

[SincoTC]

Thanks Brian! Well, I think that it does look like the challenge aircraft, but credit must go to skytrain if it is!

Like you, I was convinced that it was a Cessna, but was troubled by the different canopy, when I found the decription "Side-by-side seating; full-vision, sliding canopy" in Aerofiles (without a picture) I went looking for one, but when I returned to post having found the image above, Ken had got there first.

Oh well, I'm off to bed now, goodnight :ok:

[RegDep]

Good morning Skytrain. I hear you are on…

Ach! Waiting for RR's call…..

[skytrain10]

Morning Reg, yes I'm here, but have to go unfortunately. I have not managed to find a photo on the net of the P-10, but RR's challenge seems to fit the description, as well as the photo that Trevor has found.

Martin, if it is the P-10 then it will be Open House.

[skwinty]

Morning all,
Great challenge!:D

[RegDep]

TC, was your quote from Cessna Flyer Assn site?

The P-10 was powered by a pair of 300-hp Jacobs L6MB engines driving two-bladed, constant speed, metal Hamilton Standard propellers. The wing and tail surfaces were plywood. To minimize the use of strategic war materials, only the welded-steel frame used the precious metal. Compared to the T-50 or P-7, the P-10 appeared sleek with its streamlined fuselage, shorter wings, cockpit encased in a bubble-style canopy, and beefy landing gear (reused from a North American AT-6). The result was a trainer with the stance and panache of a fighter, vaguely reminiscent of the Lockheed P-38.

[Ridge Runner]

Yes - the Cessna P-10. One built. No photos on web as far as I know!

I think Ken has it but OH declared

[skwinty]

Try this one.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/test-1.jpg

[skwinty]

RegDep, some of those photos are found here.

Vintage and Historical Aircraft: Wings Over Kansas (http://www.wingsoverkansas.com/vintage/article.asp?id=165)

[RegDep]

RR, great challenge although no photos available in web! Apparently solvable nevertheless, as we saw. Anybody know how to get to see the contents of the Kansas Aviation Museum Robert J. Pickett Collection images? Other than going to Wichita?

Edit: Thanks skwinty. That site I know, have even posted a challenge from there :).

[Noyade]

Morning.

skwinty, is yours a really sleek-looking French aircraft....?

If it's the one I'm thinking of we've had it here before and on What Cockpit?

[SincoTC]

Morning all,

Evening Graeme; I think you're right, it looks like the Hirsh H-100 and I think I may have got it the first time round, I certainly posted a pic of it in the Musee de L'air.

Not to worry skwinty, we've all done it :)

[skwinty]

I am not to sure of country of origin, but may have a French connection.

[skwinty]

My bad, I missed it in the list.:O


Hirsch-MAéRC H-100 (F-WGVC c/n 01)

So I guess that resets the open house.

[SincoTC]

TC, was your quote from Cessna Flyer Assn site?

Yes mate, the paragraph above the one you posted :)

The picture I found was on the web, here (found with a different search string that found the above site)!

Jaka to maszyna? Edycja wojskowa, okres WW2 - Strona 204 (http://wayofwar.org/showthread.php?t=25687&page=204)

[Noyade]

Hirsch-MAéRC H-100Thanks Trevor. I went to What Cockpit and worked up from "Z" looking for 2011 entries...

Got another image/challenge instead skwinty?

[skwinty]

OK, try this one.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/gfdhtthrhtr.jpg

[SincoTC]

My bad, I missed it in the list.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/embarass.gif

Like I said mate, don't worry too much!

Dunno how you search the list, but I've been caught out many times with slight differences in spelling or foriegn accents like yours has!

I use the standard Windows F3 search, first on the whole name, then I whittle down the string to smaller sections like Hirsch, H-100, H.100 H 100.

If you're lucky you won't find your prospective challenge and you post it, only to find it has been up, but too recently to be on Mel's great list :ugh:

[Noyade]

OK, try this one.

I.M.A.M. Ro.51....?

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/6369/images6057070.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/images6057070.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

Fw200??????

[Noyade]

I use the standard Windows F3 search

Sorry, how does that work mate....please tell...? :)

[SincoTC]

Sorry, how does that work mate....please tell...? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

It's an old trick mate, but it seems to have fallen out of favour and rarely gets a mention now.

When you've loaded the list into your browser, just press the F3 key and a new bar will appear at the top of the window with a text box on the left, as you type into this box, a highlight will appear at every occurance of that character or word, buttons next to the box do what they say, try it now and enjoy :)

[skwinty]

Damn, you guys are hot.:hmm:

Don't tell me that was on the list. I looked for
MERIDIONALI RO 51

Time for a refresher in the art of paying attention.:oh:

Noyade, you're up.:ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks skwinty. Didn't look at Mel's list with that one.

This is all I have...

[/URL][URL="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/img049va.jpg/"]http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8514/img049va.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/img049w.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Fw200??????

No mate.....

[skwinty]

It's a bit difficult to use F3 search on hard copy.:ooh:

I will have to go the electronic route.

Thanks for the tip SincoTC.

[Noyade]

It's a bit difficult to use F3 search on hard copy.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/icon25.gif
I will have to go the electronic route.C'mon guys, what's this F3 search thingy?

EDIT. Just saw Trevor's answer...thanks mate! :ok:

[SincoTC]

Oo err!!

Looks like the new Time stamp Bug is still with us. When I went to post the answer to Graeme's F3 question, skwinty had already judged and Graeme's new challenge was up, hence the reason I gave my post a title.

:confused::confused::confused: :ugh:

[Noyade]

Yep...does make things hard. Martin's FW-200 response is below the Ro.51 photo before I even posted my challenge....:eek:

[skwinty]

SNCASE SE2010 Armagnac?

[HappyPass]

Morning all!

...search on hard copy...
Whaaaat? Mel's List is updated every 2-3 months! How many poor tender & cuddly trees are ya gonna kill with this method!? :uhoh::uhoh::uhoh::sad::sad::sad:

...if I were you, I would try tabbed browsing... ;)

[Noyade]

SNCASE SE2010 Armagnac?

Sorry skwinty...no.

[SincoTC]

Yes, I see that RR posted is answer seven minutes before you posted the challenge; where are you Martin, off-world somewhere?

I wondered who got the StarGate I saw on eBay :):)

[skwinty]

You can't read your laptop in the bath.:E

[HappyPass]

You can't read your laptop in the bath
Why not? :E
And, besides, you can alway buy a smartphone with a decent display (Samsung Galaxy, iPhone, any HTC...) or an iPad...
Their usefulness goes far beyond reading Mel's List while sitting on a toilet!

[skwinty]

Boeing Model 307 Stratoliner?

[Noyade]

No mate....

[Noyade]

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4644/img056lq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/695/img056lq.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Good evening Graeme and morning to everyone else.

Is it the SM-95?

This post is timed at 1100 BST and Prune clock time.

[RegDep]

Whoops, again late for the party :(

F3 is the same as <ctrl+F> or Edit -> Search

Edit: It may be Edit > Find; my stupid iMac has a German menu (BTW, when I arrived at Berlin some 11 years ago I got a PC with all software in German. When I complained about the difficulty to my Canadian (from Alberta) boss, he said: I had difficulties, too, in the beginning, but I didn't want to became a squeaking wheel like <insert name of a colleague from Quebec>.)

Now I have difficulties in some English software :ugh:

[HappyPass]

I-D(O IT) ALL? :E
BST = BullS*** Time? :E

[Noyade]

Is it the SM-95

Yes mate. :)

Your control. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Are you OK HP???

....76 to go Graeme......:)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/cool-3.jpg

[Noyade]

Racer (French?) or possibly a fighter?

[Lightning Mate]

Not French mate, and not a racer.

[Ridge Runner]

A jap, mate???

[Lightning Mate]

Not Japanese either RR.

[Ridge Runner]

A high-wing monoplane, David?

[RegDep]

Austro-Hungarian?

[Lightning Mate]

Not that either Reg.

[RegDep]

Mamma Mia!

In response to #1875 :bored:.

[RegDep]

Hi Mate. How a bout a small friendly clue?

[Lightning Mate]

Si Signor.........

More if you ask....

[Lightning Mate]

Mamma Mia!

It's all going out of phase again..............:ugh:

Wanna nuther clue?

The home of Alfa Romeo.

[RegDep]

To #1876:

Let me work my way through that slice of pizza first.

[Lightning Mate]

...pissa shissa.....

You're famous mate!

Giggle "RegDep".......................:}

[HappyPass]

Evening.
Just finished watching the quals.
LM, I have reasons to believe that yours is a Piero Magni P.M.1, with P.M. *not* meaning Pizza Mandolini I hope... :hmm:

[Lightning Mate]

I bet you have just pissed off RD!!!!

:D:D

Your thread mate. :ok:


Just finished watching the quals

Wossat? If it's sumfin' to do with football then it's just a load of totally uneducated dickheads!

I have no interest in such rubbish...........

If it's F1 however, then at least they have a fair amount of intelligence.

[HappyPass]

Doncha worry... he prolly will post now an answer that will show before mine and thus he still can win this one... :E

Stand by for next...

WossatSPA Francorchamps

[Lightning Mate]

SPA Francorchamps

Wossat........?....is it a challenge..........?

...an F1 circuit......

My go....

[HappyPass]

a challenge...
With all that rain/no rain/rain again/no rain it sure has been...

If by football y'mean soccer then I totally concur... :ok:

On to more serious business...
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3711/scchallenge.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/scchallenge.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Homebuilt LSA ?

[HappyPass]

Light aircraft.
Not homebuilt afaik

[RegDep]

I'll be darned.

I went through the correct way, all down to 'Piero Magni PM.1/PM.2 Vittoria/PM.3 Vale/PM.4 Supervale [4]' and then clicked the 'Italy Fascist', and got something that had wrong tail. So I thought, why would the '? Fascist - Other' be any different, without understanding that the ? meant civilian (no roundel) :ugh:.

Ach ja. At least I learned something today that I can forget tomorrow :*.

HP Your challenge is Plumber's Delight Mk. I :}

[HappyPass]

Well, try to pick this one right then, Heinrich... ;)

Plumber's Delight Mk. IThat made my day, I'm still laughing! :p
To be fair, the silencer is a quite recent addition, and I've seen it only on this particular airframe, as far as the photos can tell.
...and doncha Tampere with the pipes... ;);)

[RegDep]

Yeah, the builder must have stolen the muffler from his brothers motor cycle, Shirley.

[HappyPass]

A Shirley-Davidson? never heard of that...http://factoryjoe.s3.amazonaws.com/emoticons/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif

That's the brother, rite?
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/602/shirleym.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/718/shirleym.jpg/)

[RegDep]

That's him all right.

[RegDep]

Does yours come as a taildragger only?

[HappyPass]

Yep.
And it truly drags stuff... ;)

[RegDep]

Aaa, a glider towing thingy….

PIK-15 Hinu.

OH-YHD

[HappyPass]

Yep, that one :D:D:D
Hinu = dialectal form for Heinrich
Photo shot at Tampere (EFTS)
Even the "PIcK this one right" wasn't accidental... ;)

All yours!

[RegDep]

Well, you got it almost right. But if you call a Heinrich 'Hinu' in Teisko Airport (EFTS) or elsewhere, watch out the brother in your picture. He might think you mean something else…. The name Hinu was given to this aircraft type before urban slang PIcKed that expression into another use…..

'Soon' has now expired

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/2708.jpg

[HappyPass]

Well... I'm not a native Finnish speaker...
Hinu - Nordic Names Wiki - Name Origin, Meaning and Statistics (http://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/Hinu)
That's the authoritative source :p

[RegDep]

I am not an authoritative source. But as little as I know about the subject, I would assert that Hinu comes from hinuri (hinaaja) meaning a tug. Today, the urban use of hinuri is homosexual, gay.

So just you watch out.

[RegDep]

Silence . . . .

Clue: Roadable :E

[RegDep]

You are definitely on the right track Brian. Something the you'd expect Batman to fancy.

Edit: In response to #1900.

[evansb]

Speaking of a gay roadable, is this it ?
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9200/batgyro.jpg

[HappyPass]

I was silent because I was searching.
Do I remember wrong or this one has, like, an animal head? :eek:

[RegDep]

As far as I know, you remember wrong.

[HappyPass]

British, then?

[RegDep]

Not British…..

[HappyPass]

A gli... a gli... glider, at least? :bored:

[RegDep]

Rotax … … …

Glide ratio 6:1

[HappyPass]

???????????
E (http://virtualultralightmuseum.com/e.htm)

Uh... sorry, messed up captions... I thought the caption was alway below the picture as with the first one.
Piccard Eureka

[HappyPass]

Eureka, Canada, 1997, Wilf Stark.

[RegDep]

Wrong, wrong.

[HappyPass]

See above, please

[skwinty]

Percy Pilcher Hawk?

[RegDep]

Piccard Aviation Heureka

Correct HappyPass :D

"Roadable":

. . . folds up for cartopping and easy storage.

Batman:

Looks like what Batman would fly.

Over to you :ok:

[HappyPass]

"Roadable"
Why, you... trickster... ;)

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3711/scchallenge.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/scchallenge.jpg/)

[RegDep]

Spring-driven model? Is that the key on top?

[HappyPass]

Well, as you surely know most wind-up design call for the key to be inserted from the sides, but this one's peculiar...
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5484/windup.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/windup.jpg/)

Dinner, see you after that.

[evansb]

HEINKEL HE.59

[HappyPass]

That one.
All yours :ok:
I'm outta here and will be away for a few days. See you. :)

[evansb]

Thanks. I must take leave of the computer as well, so it is OPEN HOUSE.

[RegDep]

I'll take it.

Something for the night / morning owls to ponder.

I'll monitor this a couple of hours, and then in the CET morning. But I need to leave then for a couple of days. So, please crack this before I go.

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/2708-1.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day Reg.

Early Sunday and I'm making coffee....first glance says an Oz Wirraway?

Or maybe some sort or North American trainer?

[RegDep]

So what was exactly your question Graeme?

[Noyade]

So what was exactly your question Graeme?

Is it the CAC Wirraway?

[RegDep]

Is it the CAC Wirraway

That is far better a question than the other would have been Graeme.

Edit: It is :ok:

Over to you!

[Noyade]

Thanks mate. Surprised it wasn't on Mel's list. Then again this is a surprising thread! :)

I'll make it open house, at this stage. Glorious looking day outside and I'm going to get out there soon.

Enjoy your break/holiday! :ok:

Cheers.

[skwinty]

Thanks Noyade,

Here is another one to keep the plane flying.:cool:

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/sc5.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Good day skwinty. :)

I'll keep you company for a while, and I bet Noyade is lurking..............

Evening mate!

Was yours military?

[skwinty]

Hi Lightning Mate,

It is a military trainer.

[Lightning Mate]

Not unlike a Beechcraft T34.

[skwinty]

It's quite different to the Beechcraft in many aspects.;)

[Lightning Mate]

So I noticed.

Is it younger than it looks?

I base that on its' dorsal VHF aerial.

Do I see a Pratt & Whitney Wasp?

[skwinty]

Production stated in 1962 for this particular model.

I think about 2000 were made.

[skwinty]

Yes it's Chinese.

[skwinty]

You have control Captain.:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Chinese?...

[Lightning Mate]

I see Prune is playing musical posts again. :uhoh:

How about the Nanchang CJ-6A ?

[Lightning Mate]

I see you gave me control before my post!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[skwinty]

Bump......................Let's see it the timecheck and position is correct now.:8

You have control Captain.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

[Lightning Mate]

Weird innit.:confused:

Try this one............

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/sunday-4.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

It's civilian.

[skwinty]

Military or civilian?

[evansb]

Stratos 714 VLJ ?

[skwinty]

Did this go into production?

[skwinty]

Stratos 714.

[Lightning Mate]

Did this go into production?

Wind tunnel tests last week.


Development of the Stratos continues with parallel structures and aerodynamics development programs. The structures programme is focused currently on extensive stress analysis of the fuselage. Ultimately, all primary structural components will be built and load tested prior to the construction of the first prototype.

Brian has identified it.

You have control Bri. :ok:

[skwinty]

Damn, beaten by the clock.:E

[Lightning Mate]

Just for once I think all the posts are in the correct sequence.

[skwinty]

All's good in skwinty land.:p

[evansb]

Thanks. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/SWEPTWING_SABBATH.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

A stillborn project or did it fly?

[Lightning Mate]

Focke-Wulf Ta 183 Design 2 ?

[evansb]

LM is correct.:ok: Kurt Tank's TA.183 Endlosung. You have control.

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you kindly.

Are you enjoying a nice lazy Sunday in Canada?

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/nuthersunday.jpg

[skwinty]

Design 3.

http://www.luft46.com/fw/ta183-ii.html

Good one.:ok:

[skwinty]

Zodiac CH650?

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry guys - I had to go out unexpectedly.

Sorry skwinty - not the Zodiac.

This one's a retractable.

[evansb]

Czech-built Skyleader 450 ?

[Lightning Mate]

Not that either mate. :\

Looks like it will have to be cluetime shortly, unless one of you asks questions. ;)

[skwinty]

I am loooking at Canadian built, maybe the Canada bit is a red herring?

[skytrain10]

Just a quick look in...I would have gone for the Skyleader as well Bri. So how about the Jihlavan Kappa KP-5?

[evansb]

Fly Synthesis Texan RG ?

[Lightning Mate]

Good evening Ken. :)

Nope......

Not Canadian either skwinty. :p

Well, I have offered to post clues..................

[skwinty]

Is it a kit/homebuilt?

[skwinty]

Rotax , Continental or Lycoming?

[Lightning Mate]

Fly Synthesis Texan RG ?

No mate.

Not yours either skwinty.

Would you like to ask me about the engine?

[skwinty]

Mysky MS1 with Jabiru 6 cylinder?

ETA: No retracts.:*

[Lightning Mate]

Rotax , Continental or Lycoming?

Not a piston!

[skytrain10]

So not a piston....wankel, or maybe electric?

[Lightning Mate]

Good evening again Ken. :)

Try electric.;)

I'm off to bed now so I'll leave you all with it.

:zzz:

[skytrain10]

Well it has to be the Jihlavan Rapid 200 which was being used for fuel cell tests by ENFICA of Italy.

http://i.treehugger.com/images/2007/10/24/rapid_200_1.jpg

This is an electric powered Rapid 200UL, which was formerly known as the Kappa KP-2UR (KP-5 identical but fixed u/c). Jihlavan now known as Skyleader!

Unfortunately many of these LSA manufacturers tend to change the product names, without changing the aircraft, save for minor upgrades.

If correct will have to be Open House as working today.

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning skwinty - you appear to be the only one around. :)

skytrain is correct and has declared Open House.

[skwinty]

Good morning Lightning Mate.

At work now so no access to my stock of silhouettes.

Put another one up:ok:

[skwinty]

I can sneak a search in here and there.:suspect:

I will pick it up when I get home at 5pm.

[Lightning Mate]

We have a public holiday here today.

Since you are at work, are you able to play?

[skwinty]

Pilatus PC6 Porter?

[Lightning Mate]

1700 hrs your time is just over five hours away, so here's an easy one to be going on with....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/monday-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

You have answered before I posted it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:confused::uhoh:
Not the Pilatus - in any case I think we have had that one.

[skytrain10]

PAC Cresco?

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken. :)

That's the one.:ok:

Your thread mate.

Working today...............???:\

[skytrain10]

Thanks David...working, but will have one ready in a mo, so stand-by.

[skytrain10]

Here we go.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/da50e3fb.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

We had better stay sharp today - Prune is doing its' random order posts trick again..............:ugh:

Yours American Ken? - it looks it.

[skwinty]

I said I was at work and nothing about actually working.:E

[Lightning Mate]

A bit difficult to tell, but it looks like a parasol.

[skytrain10]

Yes American David. Not a parasol though.

[Lightning Mate]

Maybe time for a clue Ken.

[skytrain10]

Maybe time for a clue Ken.
Had held off on any clues as not seen anyone on line recently (until now). This is a 1950's era homebuild that used wings and tail (squared off) from a well known light aircraft from the late1930's. Just the one built as far as I can see.

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon Ken,

Pretty sure that's the Adkisson SJ-1 Head Skinner ?? (seems to have aquired some spats though)

A good challenge and a very well chosen photo that by pure chance, completely obscures the "gull-wing" :E ! Looks like they just creased and folded the Luscombe wings :eek: !!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/AdkissonSJ-1HeadSkinner.jpg

[skytrain10]

That's the one Trevor:ok:. Yes, the Adkissin SJ-1 Head Skinner. Wings/tail from a Luscombe 8, some other components from Cessna. Apparently inspired by a Polish fighter (according to Wiki)....PZL-24 I guess?

Here's the photo I used:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/79c62179.jpg

Your control Sinco TC

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken,

I'm in and out of the garden today, but will monitor periodically!

Here's one that looks the part, a design concept that never flew in other than model form. Pretty distinctive wings though, so shouldn't last long!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC-wtf160.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Wheressa engine?

Or annit got wun!

[SincoTC]

Evening Mate :)

The engine is at the rear of the fuselage pod and was intended to be a twin cylinder 60hp 4-stroke driving a ducted-fan

[Lightning Mate]

You know Charminster.

We're off to dine shortly, so I will have to check out.

Nite for now.

[SincoTC]

You know Charminster

I don't actually; but I presume it is'nt where they always burn the food :) !!

Bon Appétit :ok:

[skwinty]

So much for "this should be easy".

I have been searching for hours to no avail.:hmm:

Found lots of other closed/annular aircraft.

Will try now with the ducted fan parameter.:8

[SincoTC]

Evening skwinty,

The shape you're after is like the romboidal wing and is often described as another shape, for which SA is renowned, think of a company founded by Cecil Rhodes and don't forget it was only a design concept ;)

[SincoTC]

That's the one mate, the Gibbs White Diamond :D

skwinty has control

Edit to say that I didn't acknowledge the answer before you submitted it :ugh: This post was made at 19:10 and this edit five mins later :confused: !!

[skwinty]

Ha! that gave the game away.:ok:

White Diamond

An advanced microlight design concept


White Diamond design study (http://www.gibbsguides.com/Article-White-Diamond-Part2.htm)

[skwinty]

Good one SincoTC.:ok:

Try this one.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/sc6.jpg

[irishair2001]

Looks like a Volpar Turboliner?

[skwinty]

irishair2001 has control:ok: