Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[Noyade]

G'day Reg. Good weekend away?

Yours looks to be the Henscchel Hs-121....?

[RegDep]

Hi Graeme, Great weekend cruise. Good people, food and wine.

Yes, it is the Henschel He 121, the one and only, the first aircraft built by the German Henschel. Only one aircraft was produced, in 1933-4, as a testpiece for the Air Ministry.

Over to you!

[Noyade]

Morning.

Thanks Reg. Sounds like you had fun. I don't have much to offer at the moment mate, only this...

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4138/img063to.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/img063to.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

Rafale, mate?

[Noyade]

Morning Martin !

Not the Rafale mate. I bought a cheap book on Jet Fighters recently and this was there. I hope the artist is accurate.....I don't know much about modern jets. :)

[Ridge Runner]

Morning mate! ... Morning Reg too!!!!

Was it built and flown?

[Noyade]

Yes mate..........

[Ridge Runner]

Gripen????

Edit: scrub that, stupiid suggestion! :(:\

[Noyade]

That's what the caption says mate! :ok:

Your control....:)


http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6606/img076ot.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/img076ot.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks mate..... ;) Not so daft, eh???? Try this one ....

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune120811A-1.jpg

[Noyade]

Try this one ....

First thought...no idea. Some sort of homebuilt? British?

The Spitfire in the background...a cardboard cut-out?!

[Ridge Runner]

Not British mate. Not strictly a home-built, but could be argued that it was "home" designed. It was for a competition. Yes, a wooden Spit in the backgrond - it is in a museum after all! :)

[Noyade]

Now looking at the USA.....

(Should I be looking at the USA?)

[Ridge Runner]

No, mate ;)

[Ridge Runner]

Not from the Americas

[SincoTC]

Afternoon gentlemen,

Suspect Graeme may be :zzz: by now, or soon will be, but I see skwinty's light is on!!

Internet down locally most of weekend, at work now and pretty busy, as I will be all week, (even after hours with dog/house-sitting duties for rest of the month), however, I will get in when I can :) !

Martin; I suspect from the "wink", that this one may be in an Indian museum, probably in the Mumbai area ??

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Trevor!! Any why would you say that, mate? Of course, it is Indian but not Mumbai. Now I'll count the seconds till you get it!!!!! :) RR

[skwinty]

IAF Kanpur-II

[SincoTC]

Just beaten to it :ugh:Well done skwinty :D

Oh well, it's back to work for me now.

[skwinty]

Thanks SincoTC,
If correct then OPEN HOUSE.:ok:

[Ridge Runner]

That's the one, Skwinty!!

AVM Harjinder Singh made the Kanpur II (BR-571) powered by a Lycoming 250 hp engine. It was the same class as HAL’s Krishak (inspired by Aeronca Sedan). Meanwhile, the Army wanted an aircraft for Air Observation Post (Air OP) duties. In order to select an aircraft for the Artillery, a team was set up in January 1963.

http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/209741-world-aviation-museums-mod-post-16-05-a-10.html#post6628994

OPEN HOUSE is declared!!!

[evansb]

Here is the next challenge:
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3553/45904826644414c8d976o.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Cor....... It looks German to me. Is it? Or at least Austro/Hungarian/German?

Er.. hang on ... where's the power plant???

[evansb]

Not a glider. Not German, nor from the Ottoman Empire.

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks. I'll get thinking. Got to hit the road now... catch you later. RR

[sabredog]

Gallaudet D-1

[RegDep]

You got there first sabredog, but I was surprised about the question about power plant (not your question). It is clearly visible, just where it is.

The real reason for my post: Brian, you might wish to recap briefly your history of Europe 101 :).

[evansb]

Sabredog is correct. The Gallaudet D-1/D-4. An advanced American design, operated by the U.S. Navy. Only the make of powerplant differentiates the D-1 from the D-4. Your turn.
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9959/d4flt1.jpg

[sabredog]

Open House

[skwinty]

Here is a quick and easy one.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/fdgdg.jpg

[skytrain10]

Evening skwinty....the Grob GF200?

[skwinty]

Hi skytrain10,

Indeed it is.

You have control:ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks skwinty. Unfortunately will have to be Open House.

[Noyade]

Evening!

All I can say is, I did my best....

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/4392/img073aj.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/img073aj.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Logged in at a public library.stop.
PC destroyed.stop.
Dumbass son spilt coke on it.stop.
Could be THE END for me.stop.

OPEN HOUSE.

Goodbye.

[skwinty]

Damn, sorry to hear about that Noyade.

For the rest, try this one.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/ab99-1.jpg

[RegDep]

Morning skwinty!

A technical question (which assumes that this is a tandem two-seater): are you sure that the protuberance in the first cockpit (behind what I think is the windscreen) is part of the a/c, or could it be part of the building behind? How about the second one between the cockpits?

[skwinty]

Morning RegDep,

The angular protuberance is the eave of the building in the background.

The vertical protuberance is part of the aircraft.

I see now that I have omitted to show the glass windscreen for the aft cockpit.

Hope that helps.

[RegDep]

Thanks - it clarifies it, I hope it helps, too :\.

Pretty much sweep in the wings…….

[skwinty]

The shadow of the wings shows a sweep due to the angle of the sun and the slope of the aircraft.

The wings are not swept.:ok:

[RegDep]

Pierre Clostermann designed one aircraft when in Brazil. Would this be it?

[Noyade]

using a telstra t.hub. very hard.
tokyo koku ki.107:
will always be oh till pc fixed.
cheers.

[skwinty]

Not South American or French.:suspect:

[skwinty]

Noyade has control:ok:

[RegDep]

WOW Graeme! Nothing can slow you down, right?

It is probably feeling the same as all teeth pulled away?

I think Graeme sobbed: oh

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/ts.jpg

[Noyade]

OK

Gone next door to borrow a computer....

(His kids are looking at me like I'm stupid or something. Dumb kids...don't they realise how important SC is?!

That pic Reg is a s big as a postage stamp on this monitor!

Mitsubishi Betty??

[Noyade]

pc fixed.It was 10 years old. Should I just buy another one?

(I have no e-mail service Reg...)

[RegDep]

Graeme, good to have you back.

The picture is small, a bit like a large stamp on my screen.

And yes, it is Mitsubishi Betty, or more exactly, Mitsubishi G4M2e Model 24 Tei.

Special version for the transport of the ramming attack bomb plane Kugisho/Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka ("Baka") Model 11, conversions of G4M2a Models 24 Otsu and 24 Hei. Had armour protection for the pilots and fuselage fuel tanks.

The Ohka/Baka is the smudge below it.

Over to you Graeme!

(No e-mail, I think we are in the clear for the current one, and you have a couple of days to get one :ok:)

[Noyade]

My neighbour just informed me that by holding down Ctrl and scrolling up, the text will enlarge...amazing!

He now informs me that he would like me to leave his house....

[RegDep]

he would like me to leave his house....

Trouble, trouble, trouble. One cannot beat them all :*.

[Noyade]

Over to you Graeme!

Reg, I'm serious. I have my serious face on. I do not have a working computer. My silly son fried it with a bottle of Coke this afternoon. I cannot upload/download images (this is not my computer).

Thanks anyway...but open house.

[RegDep]

OK,

Let's go

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/0609-1.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Hello Reg!!!

A Hanriot????

RR

[RegDep]

Hi RR,

Not a Hanriot.

[Ridge Runner]

ok but that hangar looks quite French. Would I be close?

[RegDep]

Not even close.

[Ridge Runner]

would it be a V-engine, Reg?

[Ridge Runner]

What I think I have so far:

V-engine
High-wing/parasol
fighter
two-seat
tail-skid

Anything incorrect?

RR

[RegDep]

RR, just a moment, I'll answer you in a minute.

V-engine Yes
High-wing/parasol Parasol
fighter No
two-seat No
tail-skid Yes

[RegDep]

An addition to the response to RR:

two-seat No, more

[skwinty]

Tachihi R-53?

[RegDep]

Skwinty, not Tachihi. This is a four seater (two abreast in tandem pairs).

Mine is some quarter a century older.

[RegDep]

Well, what can I say?

It has no Wiki article but it is in Aerofiles, with a picture (not the one I used). With these words, Gentlemen, I plan to retire soon, and will follow this up tomorrow morning CET.

[SincoTC]

Guten Tag Reg,

Is it the Hisso powered Pacer of 1929 ??

Have to Open House please if correct, as I'm back to work now :( !

[RegDep]

TC, I just saw you logged in and though "there he comes and lets this challenge out of his misery".

Yes, it is Pacer monoplane of 1929 with Hisso A engine :ok:.

TC has requested Open House.

[evansb]

Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/ROOTY_TOOT_TOOT.jpg

[RegDep]

Etrich VIII "Luft-Limousine" ("Air Limousine") 4-seater high wing monoplane 1912

[evansb]

RegDep is correct.:ok: You have control.

[RegDep]

Thank you Brian,

Here's my next

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/0809copy-1.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Fletcher FU-24?

Edit: PC Cresco???

[RegDep]

Morning RR!

Yes, the PAC Cresco, the turboprop derivative of PAC Fletcher, from New Zealand.

Over to you :D

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks Reg but I have to go OPEN HOUSE as I'm snowed underat work!! ;)

[RegDep]

RR, let me give you some unsolicited advice. Do what I did: Get old. One day (ONE day, yahearme) your employer will find that the invaluable and irreplaceable work that has made him require you to slave around long odd hours, travel around, and spend weekends at office, is no longer needed. That's right: not only unnecessary but not needed at all.

They will send you home, as of that very day, to watch everybody else busying around with work and you wondering which aircraft you would silhouette next.

[Ridge Runner]

Absolutely true, Reg!!! I agree completely but today I need to get stuff done... when you are on commission your effort counts and repays you!

RR

[Ridge Runner]

I did this before but withdrew it!

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune070711c.jpg

[RegDep]

Some of the tail is missing. Is this a helicopter or an autogyro?

Edit: The third alternative would be ramjet-thingy. Is it?

Something like American Helicopter XA-8 / XH-26 or Hiller Hornet.

[Ridge Runner]

ah ha.....

Ramjet-thingy.. yes!!!!!

American Helicopter XA-8 / XH-26 or Hiller Hornet.

No!!!!

RR

[Ridge Runner]

I'll try to whiz it along .... it was German :)

[diesel addict]

Long shot - (very... )

ASRO 3-T (Siemetzki) ??

[Ridge Runner]

Hi DA, not that mate! :E

[Ridge Runner]

Next clue: 1950s

Next next clue: 3 x Schmidt-Argus jets...

RR

[RegDep]

AAAhhhh! Nostalgia! Schmidt-Argus jets was one of my childhood's distant dreams! To get one day enough money to buy one and build a model aircraft….

Never came through :sad:.

[Ridge Runner]

Next clue: two-seats

RR

[RegDep]

Complete failure! Zilch.

Did it fly?

Something that Focke-Borgward tried or planned?

[Ridge Runner]

Not sure, Reg. The photo I have shows a complete machine. Not anything that you've mentioned. To keep the thread moving shall I declare it?

[RegDep]

To keep the thread moving shall I declare it?

Maybe you should. I have run out of ideas and cannot see many other on the thread…..

[sabredog]

Fluro Libelle Helo

[Ridge Runner]

OK.

An obscure one.

The Fluro Libelle, jet-powered helicopter from the 1950s, designed by W. Schlieske?

OPEN HOUSE

Edit: withdrawn - see SD's post!

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry SD... I see you got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sabredog]

Thank you,RR.
My Air Pictorial of September,1956,was a great help!! The web is not always the best source of information.
Open House

[RegDep]

Aaaa - aaaa - aaa RR :=

I thought you had withdrawn it = deleted, but found it from #29362, and it was already then established as out-of-bounds, because no picture in web :eek:.

Interesting challenge per se, because it tells me that it is at least POSSIBLE that there is no picture in web in case that I don't find any…..

[Ridge Runner]

My Air Pictorial of September,1956,was a great help!!

Exactly !!!

[Ridge Runner]

Ah.. you are right... my bad memory... and I couldn't check back ... :\:O RR

[Ridge Runner]

Reg,

Where do you find the old Thread?

RR

[MReyn24050]

Where do you find the old Thread?
The very first post to this thread. Click on "Silhouette Challenge"

[Ridge Runner]

ah ha! Thanks Mel! I didn't know. I can stop guesing now! :O RR

[evansb]

Wow! This thread has stalled, hasn't it? Is it open house or what?

[skwinty]

Here's another to get things going then.:ok:

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/sc34.jpg

[Spit161]

Hmm.. AEG triplane?

[skwinty]

Indeed, nice easy one to get going.:)

[Ridge Runner]

Morning!

I just popped in to say hello and see what was up!!! Not a lot :(

[skytrain10]

Morning Martin and anyone else.
Did much the same myself....suspect there is some confusion. Spit161 has almost certainly correctly idenified the AEG Triplane (albeit not by its full name) but skwinty's reply is a little ambiguous.
Apologies if I'm treading on toes here, but in the interests of everyone we don't want a stalled thread.

[skwinty]

Sorry for that. Spit161 has control.:ooh:

[Spit161]

Just to keep things going:

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k571/Spit161/aircraftp.png

[skytrain10]

Sukhoi Su-27?

[Spit161]

Sukhoi Su-27?

Correct!
Skytrain10 has control.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Jake. Here's the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/7d49e33e.jpg

[skwinty]

Elan DG-100 ?

[skytrain10]

Not the DG-100 skwinty, and not German.

[RegDep]

A T-tail, Skytrain?

[Spit161]

Worth a shot: Viking T1?

[skytrain10]

Reg, yes a t-tail

Jake, not the Viking T1.

To help you along, this is a British design.

[RegDep]

A British T-tail design?

Built by a British builder?

Before or after 1990?

[skwinty]

Slingsby T 53B?

[skytrain10]

Reg, as far as I can see it was built in Britain by a British designer. Pre 1990's.

Not a Slingsby skwinty.

[Noyade]

Morning!

A Lightwing product Ken? From the 80's?

[RegDep]

Hi Graeme! Good to have you back in circulation.

May I ask what you mean by Lightwing?

Skytrain,

Reg, as far as I can see

So it is a bit obscure? Not many T-tails in Britain, and the wings look relatively old - even pre 1970…...

[Noyade]

G'day Reg!

Struggling to find UK sailplane makers, but one in the 80's was called Lightwing...

[Noyade]

Pre 1990's.


Maybe the 70's?

Swales SD3-15T...?

[Noyade]

The Manuel Hawk of 1972 looks promising?

[RegDep]

Hehee Graeme Manuel Hawk, BGA1778, Private (http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1285005/)

[Noyade]

:ok:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8214/img004jw.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/img004jw.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

It is indeed the Manuel Hawk. Graeme got there first, so has control:ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken. The only one I've made so far mate...

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/139/img002gp.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/img002gp.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

No immediate idea Graeme. Out for the day now so will look in later. Cheers

[RegDep]

Looks awful (not the silhouette, the entrapment). Two or three engines?

[Noyade]

Three engines. Two tractor and one pusher up top.

[Spit161]

I'm not sure on this one but when I get in later, I'll take a punt.

[Noyade]

I'll take a punt.


To assit your punt, it's Dutch. :)

[Noyade]

From Koolhoven....

[RegDep]

Graeme/Noyade is getting all too soft as his age advances. A clue without asking!

Spit161, I have not welcomed you to the thread yet, although I have seen you a couple of time. Very nice to have you here, please stay enjoy our company. We sure will enjoy yours :ok:

It must be Koolhoven FK-33, by the way, then.

Shortly after the formation of KLM, Albert Plesman decided he would like to be able to offer night flights. He asked Koolhoven in 1919 (informally) to design a plane for this purpose. It should be as safe as possible. Koolhoven answered with the FK-33, Netherlands very first triple engined passenger plane. It could carry 10 passengers. Development of this plane was fully at the Nationale Vliegtuig-Industrie's own expense. Only one was built. It served with KLM from 1925 till 1927. Then it was sold to the German firm Aero GmbH, where it was used well into the thirties as advertising plane.

[Noyade]

Koolhoven FK-33


It is mate! :ok: Your control.

Heading off now mate, catchya later. :)

[RegDep]

Thanks Graeme, hurry back!

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/P1209.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

a familiar looking fin/rudder, Reg?

[RegDep]

It depends, RR, it depends :E

Why would you say so?

[skwinty]

Is that a military glider?

[RegDep]

No Skwinty, civilian training two-seater.

[skytrain10]

British? A Slingsby T21 possibly?

[RegDep]

Not UK. British Commonwealth, if you will.

[skytrain10]

CAD (HAL) RG-1 Rohini?

[RegDep]

Take another step in the same direction.

[skytrain10]

Another step...Australia?

[RegDep]

Another step...Australia?

Why not . . . .

[skwinty]

The Pirat. SZD-30B Pirat 75

Nevermind, having a flashback to the last glider.

Bit of a senior moment.:O

[skwinty]

The Schneider Grunau Baby ?

[RegDep]

No Skwinty. Australian.

[skwinty]

Okay, Mr Schneider has an Australian connection. He emigrated there from Poland.

Schneider Grunau Baby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schneider_Grunau_Baby).

Not saying the challenge is the Grunau, but looks similar and has the Oz connection.:ok:

[skytrain10]

Can't find a photo, but is this the 1942 Coogee glider? Looks that sort of era anyway?

[RegDep]

When did he emigrate to OZ?

OK, be your own judge: This is the challenge

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/Bildschirmfoto2011-09-12um195924-1.jpg

Not the 1942 Coogee glider, Skytrain, AFAIK. For this at least four photos and the 3-D are to be found in the web.

[Spit161]

Spit161, I have not welcomed you to the thread yet, although I have seen you a couple of time. Very nice to have you here, please stay enjoy our company. We sure will enjoy yours

Thanks.
I plan on sticking around!

[RegDep]

Anyone interested in knowing who built this thing?

[skwinty]

RegDep, I do not know when, here is the line from Wiki.

Edmund Schneider emigrated to Australia, where he developed the Baby design into his Baby 3 and Baby 4, which had enclosed cockpits.


Spit161, welcome, (somewhat belated):ok:

[RegDep]

This had open cockpits.

Builder was a gliding club established in 1942 by employees of the Department of Aircraft Production, Beaufort Division, which built Bristol Beaufort bombers for the Royal Australian Air Force.

[skwinty]

Beaufort Gliding Club Merlin 2

[RegDep]

Fix the fourth word.

And forget the number.

[skwinty]

Beaufort gliding Club Phoenix.

[RegDep]

I knew you would get there! :ok:

BGC Photo Gallery (http://www.beaufortgc.org.au/Photo_Gallery.htm)

Over to you :D

[skwinty]

It's like pulling hen's teeth.:}

This one should make you squint.:hmm:

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/sc55.jpg

[Cows getting bigger]

Turbine C47?

[skwinty]

Nope, but just as old.:)

[Spit161]

Ki-93? It's too big to be a Me110!

[irishair2001]

Is it Russian ?

[skwinty]

Yes, it's the Ki-93.

Do you remember the name?

[Spit161]

Do you remember the name?

Nope. It escapes me!

[RegDep]

Rikugun Ki-93 Giken, but I don't think there was an Allied Code Name assigned. Was there?

It was a prototype and did not make it to the war, so maybe did not need one.

[skwinty]

Ok, you can beat me by one point.:E

Rikugun, a cool looking aircraft.

You have control, Spit161.:ok:

[skwinty]

RegDep, according to Japanese Army Aircraft 1930-1950 - The Big Omnipedia (http://tbo.wikidot.com/airlists-jaa)

Ki-93 Rikugun Type 6 light bomber. CADS code name Nick. Heavily-armored ground attack aircraft possibly inspired by American A-38 Grizzly and Australian Commonwealth Ostrich. Intended to replace light bombers suich as the Ki-51 and Ki-71 it was too large and heavy to copy their essential characteristic, an ability to operate off bases only a few minutes from the front lines. Production of the Ki-93 was limited as a result and the type quickly faded from front-line service.

[Spit161]

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k571/Spit161/Aircraftv.png

It's easy!
Anyhow, could one of you PM me with the best way to do silhouettes from pictures on GIMP or similar?

cheers.

[skytrain10]

Lockheed SR-71 - or if not the YF-12A?

[Spit161]

It is the SR71.

You have control.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Jake.....here's something a little slower:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/7d1baf26.jpg

[Noyade]

Quick lunchtime stab Ken. Consolidated PT-3....?

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme....sorry, not a Consolidated machine. But you are in the right country:ok:

[RegDep]

Stearman 6.(x)

[skytrain10]

Morning Reg. Not a Stearman.

[Noyade]

Morning.

Commandaire 3C3...?

[Noyade]

New Standard D-29....?

[skytrain10]

Not a Commandaire Graeme. A little newer....early 1930's design.

[skytrain10]

New Standard D-29....?
Almost there....go up a few....:ok:

[Noyade]

And if it wasn't for that tail...
Spartan C3-225?
Meyers OTW?
Lincoln PT-K?

:)


Almost there....go up a few....http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


The book stops at 29 mate! :)

[Noyade]

31?............

[skytrain10]

The book stops at 29 mate!Sounds like you need a newer book!
As you are just about there, it's the New Standard D-33 (incorrectly listed as the D-32 in Aerofiles)
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/fd88eee7.jpg

You have control:ok:

[Noyade]

Well, I then went to Aerofiles and saw "31" and "32", so went with the first. Process of elimination. :ok:

Thanks mate, but it'll have to be Open House....

[Noyade]

...then again, quick scan...

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1391/img006v.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/img006v.jpg/)

[Noyade]

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/808/anoyade.jpg (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/anoyade.jpg/)

[RegDep]

Graeme, does your source call this a shoulder-wing or high-wing?

Light transport?

[Noyade]

Are you looking at Aerofiles? Excellent.

I'd call it a shoulder wing? "ChwM"

"rare transport"

[Noyade]

Wiki says high-wing and utility transport - 9 passengers....

[Noyade]

Looking closer at the photo I can see American Airways on the fuselage.

Also used by the USAAF.

[Noyade]

John Wayne used the name of this aircraft 23 times in the film...
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

[Noyade]

"I haven't lost my temper in 40 years; but, Pilgrim, you caused a lot of trouble this morning; might have got somebody killed; and somebody oughta belt you in the mouth. But I won't. I won't. The hell I won't!" (He belts him in the mouth)...............

[RegDep]

JUST found Pilgrim before reading your last (and that it was said 23 times). You are again too generous (or the fastest shooter in the South…..).

General Aviation GA-43

Hold it!

Fairchild 100

[Noyade]

Intersting.

Pilgrims everywhere! :)

Mine is the Fairchild 100 Pilgrim used by American Airways. I think the GA-43 is a different beast?

Anyway, I'm tired, take control Reg! :ok:


Fairchild 100


EDIT....Done! :ok:

[RegDep]

OK. I think I will be only one on the thread if you go to bed… Think about that!

[Noyade]

Just making a cuppa tea. What have you got? :)


I think I will be only one on the thread

[Noyade]

Reg? Got a challenge?

[Ridge Runner]

I'm here for a while! :)

[RegDep]

Me too

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/1309-3.jpg

[Noyade]

Koolhoven?

[Noyade]

Desoutter?

[sabredog]

Koolhoven F.K.41

[Noyade]

Sorry mate, I'm just stabbing like a madman! :}

[RegDep]

Sabredog, not Koolhoven F.K.41

[skwinty]

Koolhoven F.K.43

[RegDep]

Now someone is talking!

Skwinty's Koolhoven F.K.43 is correct. I wonder how Hawkeye Sabredog missed that tail….

Over to you:ok:

[skwinty]

Never mind the tail, what about the exhaust.:(:)

Will have to be OPEN HOUSE as I am at work with no photoshop.:mad:

[evansb]

Here is a challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/116023_8001-1.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day Brian. Handley Page Hamlet?

Just stabbing. :)

[evansb]

Yes, Noyade, it is an H.P.-32 Hamlet. Here is a photo of the same aircraft with three motors. Your control
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/116013_8001.jpg

[Noyade]

Thanks Brian, lucky stab.

Not on Mel's list...

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/233/blacklc.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/blacklc.jpg/)

[RegDep]

Looks pretty Russian to me…..

[Noyade]

It's a very famous German. But I think I was a little overzealous with the black texta...with one spot that shouldn't be black.

[skwinty]

Beechcraft XA38 Grizzly?

[Noyade]

German mate.

[Noyade]

Paricipated in the Battle of Britain.

[Noyade]

I tried...I really did...:)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7928/blackimw.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/blackimw.jpg/)
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9798/img008jt.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/img008jt.jpg/)

[RegDep]

We never had Messerschmitt BF 110, had we?

[Noyade]

I didn't see it in Mel's list.

Your control Reg! :)

Goodnight! :ok:

[RegDep]

Good night, Gareme!

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/1309-4.jpg

Edit: I will be out for a few hours, but will be back to monitor the challenge.

[Spit161]

Fairchild PT-23?

[skwinty]

Undercarriage doesn't look right.

Is it a Ryan PT 22.?

ETA: pilot report on Ryan PT-22 (http://airbum.com/pireps/PirepPT-22.html)

[RegDep]

Spit and Skwinty: Neither. One hemisphere correct, the other wrong.

[skwinty]

I should take my own advice about undercarriage not looking right.:O

[skytrain10]

Evening Reg. Is it the FMA Ae.ME1 from Argentina?

[RegDep]

Skytrain, it is (in my source) FMA Ae.C.2, but they are basically versions/derivatives of the same aircraft.

Over to you :ok:

Swinty, I thought your comment on the undercarriage was about it possibly being Ryan PT 22, which definitely has different u/c. I dont think the silhouette is that far off FMA Ae.C.2 - (http://www.aviastar.org/air/argentina/fma_ae-c2.php),

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/Bildschirmfoto2011-09-13um200721.png

[skytrain10]

Thanks Reg. Yes as you say the ME1 and the C2 are the same machine. The ME1 is actually the military version. Good challenge:ok:.

Not got anything ready really, so a quick post of a version of something we've had before. Justified as it has some significant differences.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/786a0540.jpg

[skwinty]

Reg,

It's my eye's mate, not your silhouette.:8

[RegDep]

Supermarine F.7/30 "to-be Spitfire"

[skytrain10]

Not from Supermarine Reg.

[skwinty]

Percival Gull?

[RegDep]

A racing version of a fighter? Italian?

[Spit161]

Percival Mew Gull?

[skytrain10]

Not a Percival product...in fact not British, not Italian, not a fighter variant. But a racer...yes:ok:.

[skwinty]

Caudron C.450 or C.460 Rafale?

[skytrain10]

Not French skwinty.....head west!

[RegDep]

Northrop Gamma 2G with its original 745hp Curtiss SVG-1570-F4 Conqueror in-line engine.

[skwinty]

Delgado Flash with pants on.?

[skytrain10]

Spot on Reg:ok:. Yes, its the Gamma 2G (with its original Curtiss Conqueror engine) designed for the 1934 MacRobertson air race.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/c1af1f19.jpg

RegDep has control.

[RegDep]

Thanks Skytrain!

I probably will not be long enough on-line today to properly monitor a challenge, so Open House. I'll be back in the morning (at the latest).

[evansb]

Identify this mystery design:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/YUP_THATS_THE_ONE.jpg

[RegDep]

Brian, the small pieces in the (rocket?) exhaust remind me of the graphite pieces that were used to steer the V-2 rocket. Would this be one of the projects of manned rockets derived from, or developed along with, V-2?

"A rocket powered interceptor proposed by Werner von Braun."

Open House if correct.

[evansb]

ReDep is correct. The Von Braun Interceptor. Obvious inspiration for the Bell X-1. As he says, it is OPEN HOUSE.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/rd51.jpg

[skytrain10]

As it's open house, here is a quick one to get things moving:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/0a821579.jpg

[skwinty]

HS 125 or BAe 125 ?

[skytrain10]

Morning skwinty....neither of those.

[Ridge Runner]

Dornier 328 Jet?

[skytrain10]

Morning Martin....almost....but you may notice some differences in the rear fuselage and tail. Its modified from the Dornier.

[skwinty]

Morning mate, Emivest SJ30 ?

[skytrain10]

Not the SJ30 skwinty.

[Noyade]

Morning.

Ken was this built recently? Say, the last five years?