Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[skytrain10]

Not my sort of music either. I'll be on line a little longer in case you have a sudden flash of inspiration and make the connection with your earlier suggestion:)

But just in case, good night. Usual rules apply if you think you've got it:ok:

[evansb]

Aero Commander 100-180 Lark Commander ?

[skytrain10]

Apologies have been out and about today. Guess no one else around to second Brian's guess. Yes of course it is the Rockwell/Aero Commander 100/180 Lark Commander. Well done Brian :ok:- nice to see a mass produced aircraft can keep people guessing:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d4c4157e.jpg

evansb has control

[evansb]

Thank you. Here is the next challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120317.jpg

[skytrain10]

Hi Brian...is it the IST XL-15 Tagak from the Philippines?

[Lightning Mate]

Good evening Ken. :)

I had some fun with Graeme this morning on Challenge and I'm waiting for him to cease :zzz:.

Excellent call here mate. :D

[Noyade]

Guess no one else around to second Brian's guess

Well there was mate, but I wasn't 100% sure, and I couldn't find your source. I was even finding some machines from the late fifties that looked similar.

On the other hand, the Tagak - confirmed kill there. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

It seems my wingman agrees.

Hit it Ken.....

[Noyade]

wingman

I fly alone...

[Lightning Mate]

.....then you will die......

fighter pilots look after each other.........

[Noyade]

.....then you will die......

Eventually, we all will...

Now leave this thread alone. :)

[Lightning Mate]

OK then, but before I go, two of us have given Ken a go light to post.

[Noyade]

Ken's an owl, he won't be here for a long time. :)

[Lightning Mate]

ded thred then - back to SC............

[skytrain10]

Apologies to all but we had unexpected visitors this evening so not had a chance to look in until now. Seems that both David and Graeme have seconded by guess - and Bri, I see you are online so I'll leave it to you to confirm (or not). Anyway assuming I'm correct it will have to be Open House as not had the opportunity to prepare anything.

[evansb]

skytrain10 is spot on:ok: As requested, it is open house.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/xl15-21.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

...not had the opportunity to prepare anything.

Sleeve Ken....sleeve....

Good morning/evening. :)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/sun.jpg

[skytrain10]

Morning David...a motor glider I guess - small engines by the lack of any obvious bulges on the wing, or maybe a single engine driving two remote props?...German?

[skytrain10]

Take all that back - the Bossi-Bonomi Pedaliante HPA?

[Lightning Mate]

Bingo. :D

It's all yours Ken - and good morning.

[skytrain10]

Nice one....I had seen a side view of it some time back when looking for something else. Hadn't appreciated the wingspan though:)

Here's the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/40571fe4.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

No obvious propulsion system so I assume a jet.

[skytrain10]

No a twin prop....they were spinning at the time:)

[Noyade]

Morning.

From the USA Ken?

[Lightning Mate]

Evening Graeme.

Not much above five degrees here. :uhoh:

[skytrain10]

From the USA Ken? Not US Graeme - its European.

Not much above five degrees here. Positively warm mate...-2 last night and just reached the dizzy heights of 3C this morning.

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken.

The flap track fairings and the winglets do seem unusually large, so perhaps the aeroplane is bigger than on first inspection.

I surmise it's also a fairly modern design.

French?

[skytrain10]

Morning David - it's not small - 8 seats.

Not French - eastern Europe

And yes, a modern design

[Noyade]

Morning Ken/David.

Presently 21 deg. Just finished barbecuing on an open fire. Thai rissoles and vegies. Now sipping some white wine and with absolutely no idea what your challenge is Ken.

Polish?

[skytrain10]

Sounds nice Graeme - temperature climbing rapidly here - now 8C:) At least its sunny.

Not Polish mate, but you're not too far away:ok:

[Noyade]

Looking at Wiki's map of Europe - Russia? Do they make those kind of aircraft?

[Lightning Mate]

Maybe Czech.

Evening Graeme - hic......

[Noyade]

hic......

I said sipping....not guzzling. :)

a modern design

Say, last five years?

[skytrain10]

Looking at Wiki's map of Europe - Russia? Do they make those kind of aircraft? Not Czech or Russia, but it is from a former USSR state - that borders Poland:ok:

Say, last five years? I believe so, although I cannot confirm as there is little information on when it was built - it certainly only flew within the last 5 years.

Edit, first registered in 2009

[Lightning Mate]

Slovakia ?

[skytrain10]

Slovakia ? Uh, no...see my last post:)

[Lightning Mate]

Apologies, but Czechoslovakia and Slovakia are not the same are they?

Ukraine?

[skytrain10]

Czechoslovakia and Slovakia are not the same are they? True mate, but they're not former USSR states - mind you the Russians did try after the war:)

Not Ukraine.

Do you want to see a photo?

[Lightning Mate]

Kensgaila VK-9 ?

[skytrain10]

Good call David:ok: Yes, it is the Lithianian Vlado Kensgailos VK-9 which is amazingly, a homebuild! Only the one built, or at least known of, which first flew in 2009. A good video on You tube here: "VK-9" - self-made (!) twin-engined 8 seats lithuanian aircraft !!! (Lithuania) - YouTube

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d52cb1d7.jpg

LM has control

[Lightning Mate]

Blimey Ken - nice one! :uhoh: There really was only one country left.

This one should be easier........

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/kensumfin.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

A very nice one, Ken!!!!!! :)

[skytrain10]

Glad you both liked my challenge. David is yours the Fauvel AV.2?

[Lightning Mate]

Not a Fauvel Ken.

mmm....I'll give you that one - it's just that I have it listed as something else, the Chauvet. :uhoh:

Another case of two different names!

Your control Ken.

[skytrain10]

Thanks David. Not heard of the Chauvet name but as is often the case with light and experimental aircraft, as you say two different names (or sometimes more) for the same machine.

A 3-view for a change:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/1f510329.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

.....methinks you're wearing a short-sleeved shirt............

edit - I'll take that back.

[skytrain10]

methinks you're wearing a short-sleeved shirt It so happens I am:) Just had a break for lunch.

[Lightning Mate]

Hi Ho - it's off to class we go.....

[Lightning Mate]

Quick question afore hame.

No visible armament, so civilian?

[Ridge Runner]

Its got Belgian look about it?

[skytrain10]

No visible armament, so civilian? It was built for military purposes and was to have 2 x machine guns but never went in to production. There is some conflicting information depending on what source you use, but it seems the guns may never have been fitted. As you say they don't show on the 3-view.

Its got Belgian look about it? It may have, but its not from Belgium. European though.

[Ridge Runner]

A bristol lump up front, Ken? A Jupiter?

[skytrain10]

Not a Bristol Martin, but a very similar engine, which was built under licence in the country of this aircrafts origin.

[Lightning Mate]

European though.

'ere we go again.........

[Ridge Runner]

Got to go soon... so, Italian????

[skytrain10]

so, Italian???? No, but it lost out to an Italian aircraft in a competition to provide a fighter for this countries air force. Hence the challenge aircraft never went in to production.

To help you along the engine is a locally built Gnome Rhone.

[Lightning Mate]

Oh no!! - that engine was licence-built in many countries. :eek:

Notably Czechoslovakia and Poland.

[skytrain10]

Notably Czechoslovakia and Poland. Neither of those, but you are in the right area.

[Lightning Mate]

.........again...........

[Lightning Mate]

The map was different in the 30s.

Hungary or Romania?

[skytrain10]

Hungary or Romania? Hungary:ok: Clock ticking now!

[Lightning Mate]

Perhaps you would be interested in the AVIS III.

[skytrain10]

Perhaps you would be interested in the AVIS III. That's the one David:ok:

Your control mate.

[Lightning Mate]

You still there Ken? I don't see you as a current user but your light is on!!

Brian is with you so.........................

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/notGIMP-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Yes, here, just finished dinner. Will be back to look at your latest shortly.

[skytrain10]

Well, it has all the right looks, so is it a Pitts S-2C Special open cockpit version?

There again, it looks a little small...so maybe a Myers Little Toot?

[Lightning Mate]

...so maybe a Myers Little Toot?

It's a deal - your turn. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

The next could be a case for the......................................

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wagga-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Thanks David - well, hopefully the day shift will be around a little longer:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/ef35984a.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Not me mate - I'm up at six.

Graeme will recognise my photograph - I wonder if he will yours also.....

Cheers mate - bis morgen.

[skytrain10]

Ok night night David.

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken. :)

Are we going around Europe again or across the pond this time?

[skytrain10]

Morning David.

Stick to Europe with this one - and to limit the searches a little, I've moved in to western Europe this time:)

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate.

I've seen a couple of French jobs similar - right place?

[skytrain10]

I've seen a couple of French jobs similar - right place? Wrong place:) Need to head north.

[Lightning Mate]

That's a nice clue - British?

[skytrain10]

British? You are now in the right place:ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks for the geography. :ok:

Watkinson Dingbat?

[Lightning Mate]

smartass again!

[skytrain10]

Watkinson Dingbat? It is indeed Graeme - the one off Dingbat from 1938, last flown in 1975 when it sadly crashed. Now under restoration in Southampton.

Here it is at the PFA Rally in Sywell in 1974, not my photo, but its the one and only time I saw it:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/babc2966-1.jpg

Noyade has control:ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks mate.

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/5723/stardi.jpg (http://img811.imageshack.us/i/stardi.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Temco TT-1 Pinto ?

[Noyade]

No mate...

[Noyade]

I can make one a little bigger if you like...I am a magician...









http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1911/itsy.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/itsy.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

L-29 Delphin ?

Must go into class for an hour - if it's correct it will have to be an OH.

[Noyade]

Definitely the Delfin mate. :ok:

Your control.

(Thanks for the river photo - although I first thought it said Night****. :ooh:)

Logging off - back later hopefully...

Edit...

if it's correct it will have to be an OH.

Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

Everybody's gone! :uhoh:

[skytrain10]

Still here mate....just hadn't refreshed recently:ok:

Edit to say, have you got one to post...if not I've just prepared one:)

[Lightning Mate]

I'm about five minutes away from one mate. :)

edit - coming up.....

[Lightning Mate]

If you'll permit me to take back my win Ken:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/takeitback.jpg

[skytrain10]

Another HPA David?

[Lightning Mate]

No mate, this one is not human powered.

[skytrain10]

Ok thanks. In fact looking at it there is not much sign of any power! Is there a prop somewhere....maybe on that long nose...or a pusher behind the cabin?

[Lightning Mate]

Twin bladed prop on the front Ken.

The blades are just about horizontal in the original photograph, which is why you don't see much of them.

[Lightning Mate]

Would you like some help?

[skytrain10]

Would you like some help? Not yet! Work has called so not had a chance to look:(

[Lightning Mate]

OK I'm going home via bank - back soon.

[skytrain10]

It has all the looks of a solar powered aircraft, but not finding anything :ugh:

[Lightning Mate]

I say again - want some help?

[skytrain10]

I'll take it this time:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

OK mate.

This project was unique and probably will remain so.

There is conficting evidence as to whether it flew or not, but it was certainly built.

The "power unit" is entirely within the fuselage, and was considered to be potentially dangerous.

Nuvver clue very shortly...........

Wanna photograph?

There are cars in it.......;)

This needs to go tonight/today in Oz.

[Lightning Mate]

Ken,

If you are still at work you are in the wrong job.

Bri - wotcha doing?

[skytrain10]

If you are still at work you are in the wrong job. Unfortunately its a busy time of year, but at least I am working from home:)

Now you have provided a clue I am convinced I have seen a picture somewhere - an aviation mag I think. May have been Flight?

Was this a NASA design project/competition?

[Lightning Mate]

Not NASA - a private venture.

The "power unit" was contained entirely within the fuselage.

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning/evening.

The reason the pilot sat in the gondola above the undercarriage is that the propulsion system occupied almost the entire length of the fuselage.

What type of system could that be ?.....................

[skytrain10]

Morning David:)
Well, I found an aircraft powered by conventional batteries last night (amazing what you find!) which bears some resemblence in that the cabin is suspended beneath the "fuselage", largely because of the number of batteries needed. Unfortunately the likeness stops there :ugh:

[SincoTC]

Morning guys :)

Well. I suppose rubber bands of that size could be dangerous if they broke!!

I think it's called the Rubber Bandit designed and built by George Heaven

A Chance to Unwind (http://blog.cafefoundation.org/?p=3992)

Sorry, but it'll have to be Open House if accepted as I'm really hectic at the moment with lots of folk away and won't be able to monitor :(

[Ridge Runner]

Think, Trevor?, think?? ... you are there mate!!!! well done!!!

I'm armed and ready!!!!!!!! :)

RR

[Lightning Mate]

Morning all. :)

I'm armed and ready!!!!!!!! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Well mate, you had better throw one up because TC has hit the nail on the head.

He has declared OH.

...............................................GO.........

[Ridge Runner]

a bit bigger :) .......

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune190312A-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Martin.

Limited time available.

Do I see twin fore and aft pylons?

[Ridge Runner]

You do, David!

[skytrain10]

Afternoon Martin...is it the Gail 202 Mantis?

Good call on the rubber band aircraft Trevor - I did think about it as a form of power, but really only did a cursory search, and then by chance I stumbled across the Duracell plane and went that route instead:(

[Ridge Runner]

Hiya Ken!!!

yes, the Gail Model 202 Ag aircraft from 1956.

Skytrain10 has control!!!!

[skytrain10]

Thanks Martin.

Here is the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/1da9144f.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

A homebuilt, ken???

[skytrain10]

A homebuilt More of a one off I think Martin - not offered that I can see as a homebuild.

[Ridge Runner]

OK, mate.

Clearly not a Lycoming so a European machine, Ken?

[skytrain10]

Right on both counts:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Experimental STOL ?

[skytrain10]

Experimental STOL ? Not promoted as such, although it appears to have short field capability.

[Ridge Runner]

Might there be a whiff of snails and garlic in that cockpit, Ken????

[skytrain10]

Might there be a whiff of snails and garlic in that cockpit, Ken???? More like bread and potato!

[Ridge Runner]

Ah, from the land of whiskey, then?

[Lightning Mate]

chleba a brambor ?

[skytrain10]

Not known for their whiskey Martin.

Not Czech David

[Lightning Mate]

хлеб и картофель ?

or

Chleb i ziemniak ?

[skytrain10]

Both of those are geographically close:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

I have found something (no name) with the registration LY-XNR.

Am I right?

That shows up as an RK-3 Vejas.

Going home :uhoh:

[skytrain10]

That shows up as an RK-3 Vejas. Spot on David - it is the RK-3 Volunge from Lithuania:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/699993fb.jpg

LM has control

[Spit161]

Hi all, I have just "rediscovered" the forum! I look forward to returning to the "competition" :8

Jake.

[Ridge Runner]

Excellent!!!!!

[Lightning Mate]

LM has control

Good grief!!

Welcome back Jake. :ok:

This one should not last too long, which is just as well because I have had a bad day with university delinquents and am knackered.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Iwon.jpg

[skytrain10]

Hi Jake...good to see you back:ok: As you can see the regulars are still around:)

[Spit161]

Thanks both, nice to see your still "at it"!

[Lightning Mate]

"at it"

Not much at my age!:\

[Spit161]

Not much at my age!:\

Not sure what to say to that.. :oh:

[skytrain10]

French David?

[Spit161]

At the risk of giving the answer away, I was thinking that French 1920s (?) Torpedo bomber. However, the name escapes me..:*

[skytrain10]

I was thinking of the Levasseur PL.10 - but it's not that. However it could be the PL.7?

Edit, if correct will have to be Open House

[Lightning Mate]

However it could be the PL.7?

Absolutely mate. :ok:

Ken has declared OH.

Here's your chance 161. :)

[skytrain10]

Thanks David. Well, no takers, so I'll take up my own OH:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/df5c5127.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Single or twin?

I think the former.....

[trucky04]

Ill have a stab. Eastern European? Maybe American as it is very Lancair-ish. Slovaks are making the Pepistrel Panthera. Its similar.

[skytrain10]

I think the former..... Good thought, yes a single:ok:

Eastern European? Maybe American as it is very Lancair-ish It is American trucky, but no connection with Lancair that I can see..

[Ridge Runner]

A twin-boomer, i guess?

[skytrain10]

A twin-boomer, i guess? Interesting idea, but no, not a twin boomer.

[Lightning Mate]

Aerofiles?

[skytrain10]

Aerofiles? Morning David:). Yes in Aerofiles but no picture. Plenty of photo's on the web though.

[Lightning Mate]

...bugger.....:uhoh:

Wossat on top of the fin/rudder?

Surely not the tailplane.

[skytrain10]

Well spotted...yes, its a T-tail design:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Looks too small to me, unless it had a large span.

....and that wheel is bugging me - can't fathom if it's a partially-retracting nosewheel or what.

[Lightning Mate]

Another thing - was it designed to be quick, because it certainly looks it.

[skytrain10]

Looks too small to me, unless it had a large span. The tailplane span does not look unusually large in any pictures, although your reasoning may be sound and may have some relevence to another feature of this aircraft:)

and that wheel is bugging me - can't fathom if it's a partially-retracting nosewheel or what. It is the nosewheel.

was it designed to be quick, because it certainly looks it. Mmm, well it was not designed as a racer, but it is quick and has won speed (over set distance) records in its weight class which still stand today.

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Ken.


and may have some relevence to another feature of this aircrafthttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Does that mean it also has a canard?

[skytrain10]

Does that mean it also has a canard? It does:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Silly me - it had to be a Rutan.

The Model 81 Catbird.

[skytrain10]

The Model 81 Catbird. That's the one David, the Rutan 81 Catbird:ok: Designed originally as a replacement for the Beech Bonanza in the late 80's, the one Catbird was put in to storage in the 90's and eventually restored last year to flying conditionn.

As for the records held, courtesy of wikipedia:
Catbird set two world records which as of February 2012[update] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scaled_Composites_Catbird&action=edit) still stand. The first was in Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9d%C3%A9ration_A%C3%A9ronautique_Internationale) (FAI) class C-1b (land planes with takeoff weight of between 500 and 1000 kg) speed over a closed circuit of 2 000 km 2,000 kilometres (1,200 mi) without payload. For this record, set at Mojave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojave_Airport_%26_Spaceport) piloted by Dick Rutan, a speed of 401.46 km/h (249.46 mph) was achieved. The second record was set in class C-1c (aircraft between 1000 and 1750 kg takeoff weight), over the same course but piloted by Mike Melvill, at a speed of 413.78 km/h (257.11 mph).[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaled_Composites_Catbird#cite_note-4)http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/b9a1c3fe.jpg

LM has control

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Ken.

What with yesterdays' and todays' I've worn out my fingers and keyboard!

You now have a choice - another tripe or a weirdo.........

[skytrain10]

Let's go weirdo!

[Lightning Mate]

OK, coming up......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/weirdo-6.jpg

[skytrain10]

Some sort of microlight? Is there a prop somewhere - the design looks as though it should have a pusher, but there doesn't seem to be anywhere for it?

[Lightning Mate]

It is indeed a microlight - very microlight - 130kgs!!!!

Three engines - pullers.

[skytrain10]

Three engines - pullers. Wasn't expecting that! Must be lawnmower engines....Briggs & Stratton power?:)

[Lightning Mate]

No mate - motorcycle engines!

The whole contraption was built from scratch.

[skytrain10]

Looks like its Chinese...a homebuild microlight by Ding Shilu?

[Lightning Mate]

:D:D:D

Back to you.

[skytrain10]

Thanks David. Something altogether faster.....

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/1aa3b2d4.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Found the pic - looking for the name.....

Is it the F16XL ?

[skytrain10]

A derivative of a very common aircraft:)

Edit
Is it the F16L ? Mmm, close enough:ok:....it's actually the F-16XL.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/3c6e8435.jpg

Back to you.

[Lightning Mate]

I did edit above.

[Lightning Mate]

Wanna nuther fast one or the tripe?

[skytrain10]

fast please....:ok:

Just going to make a cuppa...back shortly

[Lightning Mate]

As requested...

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/nuvverquick.jpg

edit: going home Ken - back soon.

[Lightning Mate]

Your light is on Ken, but are you in?

I thought I might add a clue.....................:)

[skytrain10]

Is this a Convair project David? Perhaps one of the drawings for the Convair Betta that eventually became the Sea Dart?

[Lightning Mate]

No mate - this was European.

....schhh..........I'm invisible.................

[skytrain10]

Ok, but a project, yes?

[Lightning Mate]

Ja, but a piloted 12m model was wind tunnel tested.

The project was abandoned in the late 80s for no apparent reason.

It was later revealed that it was less detectable than the American stealth stuff. One report states that the Americans were upset when it was revealed to them.

[Lightning Mate]

Above post edited slightly - please read again. ;)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/insect.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Gute nacht mein freund. :)

[skytrain10]

Would this be the MBB Lampyridae project?

Going to hit the hay now, so if it is, make it Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

Would this be the MBB Lampyridae project?

It most certainly would. :ok:

skytrain has called an Open House.

[Ridge Runner]

To keep it going ...

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune230312A-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Holy s##t Martin. :uhoh:

My immediate reaction was crop sprayer, but I don't get that big bubble.

[Ridge Runner]

Not a ag machine, David

[Ridge Runner]

Oh dear, I will have to withdraw it, David. i just found it on Mel's list!!!! :(

It was the Gatard Statoplan Poussin

OPEN HOUSE again!!!

[Lightning Mate]

You bugger - and I just found it!!!

edit: since at the moment it's just you and I on thread, would you like another?

[Ridge Runner]

OK. Give me a few minutes!

edit: i meant second!!! :)

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune160312A.jpg

[skytrain10]

Morning Martin....very initial thought is something by Zenair...maybe the CH2000, although that antenna looks out of place, so perhaps not.

Nice challenge with the Lampyridae David....I had totally forgotten about that Stealth project.

[Lightning Mate]

Its' registration is YI-103 - 'cause I just found that as well.

SAMA CH20

[skytrain10]

I think its called the SAMA CH2000 which is a licence built Zenith CH2000 using kits from Canada which are assembled in Jordan.

[Lightning Mate]

That's correct, I'm just b########ing!

You will have the next. :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

That's the one, Ken, the SAMA CH-2000

Skytrain10 has control!

[skytrain10]

Thanks Martin...it will have to be Open House. Now that all the controls of Photobucket appear to have changed I have no idea how to edit an image :(

[skytrain10]

Well, think I have it sussed, so here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/96c430dd.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

a twin-jet project, Ken? two pods above the rear fuselage?

[skytrain10]

a twin-jet project, Ken? two pods above the rear fuselage? Correct on both counts:ok:

[Ridge Runner]

An exec jet project?

[skytrain10]

An exec jet project? Yes, and one which came close to being reality. Late 1960's.

[Lightning Mate]

Might it be the Swearingen SA-28T ?

[skytrain10]

Might it be the Swearingen SA-28T ? He swoops, he strikes....yes it is the Swearingen SA-28T, from 1969.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/1a1b9a61.jpg

It would certainly have stood out from the crowd, considering what else was around in those days.

LM has control:ok:

[Ridge Runner]

a yank, mate? Gulfstream?

[Lightning Mate]

a yank, mate? Gulfstream?

Catch up number two....:E

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Ken - you really seem to be into fast stuff lately!

I wouldn't mind flying that thing - I do s p e e d.

This one ain't quick:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/greeeeen.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

oh bugger! :(

[Ridge Runner]

If that car wasn't in the picture I would have thought it was quite old but .... clearly its not!!!

[skytrain10]

A motor glider David.....70's era?

[Lightning Mate]

Sort of, but I would say yes.

It's designed as a normal taildragger, but it has a good L/D ratio and may be used for soaring.

Can't find an exact date because the marketing/design company may be out of business. It appears that several are still being built.

I'll try to dig out more information.

[Lightning Mate]

It appears it started life in the first few years of 2000.

[skytrain10]

Is it the MB-04 Souris-Bulle?

Edit to say, we have had it before though...albeit with a different engine and therefore distinctly different front end.

[Lightning Mate]

Is it the MB-04 Souris-Bulle?

It most certainly is. :ok:

Your turn.

[skytrain10]

Thanks David....next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/afd20a03-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

I presume we're looking from above, right rear.

[skytrain10]

from above, right rear. correct David:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Two-seater with the back seat occupied ?

A one-off from Brazil ?

[skytrain10]

Two-seater with the back seat occupied ? Correct in this instance - I say that as the aircraft was also available as a single seater.

A one-off from Brazil ? Nope....its from somewhere a little less exotic, and as implied above, its not a one-off.

[Lightning Mate]

Prolly Europe then.

[skytrain10]

Europe then. Yep, a European design:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

'ere we go again.......:)

[skytrain10]

To help you along, western Europe.

[Lightning Mate]

gozome time mate. :uhoh:

[Ridge Runner]

Recent or older, ken???

[Ridge Runner]

Just decided to leave early and enjoy the sunshine!!!! :) Sorry Ken and David ..................

[skytrain10]

Recent or older, ken??? 1960's design, although wiki reports it as 1980's :) Enjoy the sunshine - we have it here too, but you wouldn't hang around outside without a coat - 12C.

[evansb]

-12C or 12C ? Where I live, you can experience both temperatures within 12 hours...(yes, 24 degrees change in 12 hours), and it is considered normal for March.

[skytrain10]

Hi Bri...+12C, but parts of the UK were due to hit +20C today! We'll probably drop to 1 or 2C tonight as its clear - due to reach 17C tomorrow. Fortunately we don't often get the extremes that you do.

[skytrain10]

Offline for a while now. Will check in later.

[skytrain10]

All quiet so a clue....this aircraft was offered both as a factory produced or kitplane. Although the last one was produced in the early 90's, the manufacturer went on to produce perhaps more well known designs.

Closing down for the night now, so usual rules apply :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken. :)

Great day here - possibly +20 this afternoon.

The challenge is a bit of a sod. Might it be French?

[skytrain10]

Morning David...don't think we will make 20 today, but will come close:ok:

Not French mate....,as it's all a bit slow moving, let me help you along - German.

[Cows getting bigger]

Dallach Sunrise

OH if correct.

[skytrain10]

Dallach Sunrise That's the one CGB - the Dallach Sunrise. And welcome to the forum :ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/dac7610d.jpg

Cows getting bigger has declared Open House

[Lightning Mate]

Good evening everyone - ...and welcome Cgb. :ok:

[Cows getting bigger]

Gentlemen, thank you. To reiterate, OH.

[Lightning Mate]

I'm sure our antipodean mate will be up soon, so....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/brown-3.jpg

[skytrain10]

With those looks it must be the DeKallis Air Truck?

Closing down shortly so will have to be Open House if correct.

[Lightning Mate]

That's the one Ken. :ok:

Good morning Cgb.

Open House has been declared.

edit: if you're up Ken, why not claim the next one.

[skytrain10]

Morning David:)

I would post but unfortunately I'm not around much today so not able to monitor.

Have a good day - will look in later to see what's going on:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

OK mate, but I fear it will be very little unless one of the regulars comes on.

Got anything Cgb ?

[evansb]

Here is a Sunday special:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/SILLY_WET.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Bri. :)

Is that thing triple tailed or is it just an aerial in the centre?

[evansb]

It is a vertical stab..

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate.

So I assume it has three vertical stabilisers.

edit: wossa your weather?

[evansb]

METAR CYQL 251400Z 29003KT 9SM OVC011 M03/M03 A2999 RMK ST8 SLP197=

Forecast high of +8 today, +16 by Friday..


The mystery aircraft could be considered a "factory mod."

[Lightning Mate]

....and it has a French look about it......

We're +18 here at the centre of the Universe. ;)

re. "Challenge" - clue for a clue? :E

[evansb]

Gotta say no to Gaul, et al..

Clue: Another factory mod did the "Mamba"..;).

Engines in the silhouette are named after a martyred Saint.

[Lightning Mate]

Maybe the HANDLEY PAGE H.P.R.5

[evansb]

LM is correct:ok: Your turn.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1286/154ye.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Nice clues Bri. :ok:

Let's get the week off.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/darkclouds.jpg