Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[Lightning Mate]

I'll certainly second it and invite Ken to take the thread.

[skytrain10]

I'll certainly second it and invite Ken to take the thread. Regardless of whether it is the Ar-2 (I still think it is), the other 2 candidates (the SB-2 and ANT-40) have both been put forward and I am very sure it is one of these, so I am happy to move forward. No doubt Karl will confirm which of us was corrrect when he is up and about.

So, I'll accept the nomination (sound's like I'm at an awards ceremony:)) from Trevor and David.....Stand-by gents

[skytrain10]

Next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/29f4b017.jpg

The little "nick" in the canopy is where it was slid slightly back in the photo I used.

[Lightning Mate]

Methinks it has been parked with the nosewheel fairly well turned to the right.

Therefore the rudder would also be and so the fin/rudder silhouette profile may not reflect the true shape.

[skytrain10]

Therefore the rudder would also be and so the fin/rudder silhouette profile may not reflect the true shape. Yes, there is a deflection but not a large one. I don't think it distracts too much from the tail profile.

[Lightning Mate]

One more question - is it available with fixed gear as well?

[Ridge Runner]

French, Ken?

[skytrain10]

One more question - is it available with fixed gear as well? No, retractable only, although it's not strictly available at all as I believe only the 1 built.

French, Ken? Not French Martin. Wrong side of the pond:)

[hesham]

Hi,

I think it was ENAER T-35 Pillán.

[Ridge Runner]

I think more than one Pillan was built, Hesham!

[hesham]

My dear RD,

side-by-side or tandem two seat ?.

[Lightning Mate]

My dear RD

Somebody tell him......................:ugh:

[skytrain10]

I think it was ENAER T-35 Pillán. Not the Pillan hesham. Wrong country.

side-by-side or tandem two seat ?. 2 seat, tandem

[Lightning Mate]

North American prototype LSA?

[skytrain10]

North American prototype LSA? North American (USA to be specific) and prototype yes, but I am not sure that it would qualify as a LSA. The FAA classifies this aircraft as "experimental". 1990's design.

[Noyade]

Hi Ken. The Halsted Saffire...?

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http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3449/29f4b017.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/29f4b017.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

The Halsted Saffire...?Morning Graeme...yep that's the one:ok:. I think it's a nice looking aircraft.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/68605e30.jpg

Your control

[Lightning Mate]

Good evening Graeme..........hopefully........

[skytrain10]

Morning David:)

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken. :)

I assume you have checked the "Cryptic" thread.

[skytrain10]

I assume you have checked the "Cryptic" threadYes indeed and let's hope it can resume...see my PM..

[Lightning Mate]

Cryptic is go mate. :ok:

[Noyade]

Morning!

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1615/img204vy.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/img204vy.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Looks like I'm the only one here. :{

[Noyade]

Not to worry mate. I can always come back tomorrow. You guys are usually busier in the evenings. :)

[Lightning Mate]

I'm at home all day mate.

Is it a Nakajima?

[Noyade]

Not a Nakajima mate...

[Lightning Mate]

Do I therefore take it that's it's not Japanese?

[Noyade]

Well taken, not Japanese...

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme....Russian mate?

[Noyade]

Hi Ken.

Yes.

[Ridge Runner]

Its Russian, a Tupolev

[Noyade]

Yes Martin, Tupolev.

Another silhouette of the same aircraft...

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/655/img209t.jpg (http://img580.imageshack.us/i/img209t.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

ANT-35???, mate

[Noyade]

That's the one Martin, the prototype ANT-35 (PS-35).

Your control. :ok:

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1442/img208h.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/img208h.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks mate...

don't disappear!

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune181111A.jpg

Sorry it isn't a silhouette - no time! :(

[Noyade]

Museum piece or kitplane/homebuilt Martin?

(Close to midnight mate - :zzz: - Cheers)

[Ridge Runner]

homebuilt, Graeme. One built.

[skytrain10]

Afternoon Martin...American (US)?

[Ridge Runner]

Hi mate! No, not US.

Edit: probably I should qualify that. It is, as far as I can see, the only one built. However, although not built in the US it was designed there. It was homebuilt in the other country.

RR

[skytrain10]

I'll go the more obvious route....looks like its in French military markings, so is this a French machine?

[Ridge Runner]

No mate, go ESE

[skytrain10]

Italian then?

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry, no. While the tail colours might be a clue it is not European. :E RR

[skytrain10]

Wasn't expecting that!
Is this available today in kit form or was it literally a one-off?

[Ridge Runner]

As I said, it was the only one built - as far as I can see. It is pre-war/WW2

Edit: I have to go out for an hour or so, have fun! :)

[SincoTC]

Afternoon gents!

Just grabbing a coffee but can't stop right now, a question for when Martin gets back, it might be a help, but more likely a bum-steer :)!

You were in India not so long ago and visited the Indian Air Force Museum at Palam, is there any point in digging there, or maybe just India??

[Ridge Runner]

I've been there many times, mate. No, no point at all! :)

Edit: clue - built 1930s and a Bristol engine

[skytrain10]

Australian....or have I gone too far ESE!?

[Lightning Mate]

'artnoon RR.

May I assume the engine is a Cherub?

[Ridge Runner]

You are very warm, Ken!

[Lightning Mate]

eeny meeny mynee mo.....................

Indonesia?

[Ridge Runner]

No, David. not Indonesia.

[Karlark]

Good afternoon RR, now that it has been narrowed down considerably, New Zealand perhaps? The Lincoln Sports ZK-BMV?

Edit; If it turns out to be correct, open house please. Thanks!

[skytrain10]

Well I've looked long and hard at New Zealand, found a couple of possibles, but neither match the challenge. The tail is however very similar to one of them...shame the rest of the aircraft isn't!

Edit....Well I'm sure Karl has it....and the Lincoln Sports was one of the 2 aircraft I had found an hour ago. It seems they produced 2 completely different planes bearing the same name!!! I looked at ZK-ADV: North Tui Sports Replica, ZK-ADV, Museum of Transport and Technology (http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1228017). Clearly not a very good replica!!! The original ZK-ADV crashed, so looks like there were 2 built.

[Lightning Mate]

2 clues up on "Cryptic". :)

[Ridge Runner]

Ah ha!!! Just in time! Yes, the Lincoln Sports ZK-BMV c/n 1. Built 1932. Karlark has it! Well done!!!

[Karlark]

Thanks RR... Open House please... no new ones in the photobucket at the moment.

[Lightning Mate]

C'mon guys - take a short break and go to the "Cryptic" thread. :)

[skytrain10]

With some confusion in my mind regarding the last challenge I decided to do some digging. In fact the aircraft is a Radford Lincoln Sport, which actually looked like this in its original form:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/8287290a.jpg
The Lincoln Sport itself is a US aircraft, which was built in the US and some still survive today. I am guessing the above machine was an adaption from the original, albeit a fairly major one.

[Noyade]

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4277/landingq.jpg (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/landingq.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

French or German?

[Karlark]

Looks Italian :)

Edit; Could be Cant Z.1018 :ok:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/cantz1018.jpg

[Noyade]

Very well done Karlark! :ok:

Your control mate. :)

[Karlark]

Evening Noyade. Thanks!

Here is one I mustered up for what is probably a sparse crowd right now;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/60-3.jpg

[Noyade]

Very quiet? But we are progressing. :)

Yours is the Cant Z.1012...

CANT Z.1012 (http://crimso.msk.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft26573.htm)

[Karlark]

Yes it is the CANT Z.1012 :ok:
Over to you.

[Noyade]

Thanks Karlark,

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2074/img202z.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/img202z.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme, are we looking at a twin boom, twin prop? Is that a large single wheel underneath?

[Noyade]

Evening Ken.

Not twin-boom. Twin prop. Yes, big wheel.

(Good news mate - Leisure Aviation 2011/2012 turned up at the local newsagent yesterday. :))

[skytrain10]

Leisure Aviation 2011/2012 turned up at the local newsagent yesterday Good, I think! Not seen it here yet....something tells me I'll have to get it quickly:)

Not twin boom....I thought I had actually found it as well:( I'll save that now for a future challenge!

[Noyade]

I only picked this image because of the "lumps and bumps" but I'm happy to show you it from another angle. Once seem you'll recognise it quickly. Let me know.

I thought I had actually found it as wellhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/sowee.gif

Just curious, as always...was it Russian?

[skytrain10]

Just curious, as always...was it Russian? No, European. Don't worry, I'll post it at some point :)

No new images yet....just a case of getting it in to perspective!

[Karlark]

Yakovlev Yak-2/Yak4?

[Noyade]

Sorry Karlark...I was day-dreaming...

Yes mate! :ok:

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1872/img211yz.jpg (http://img810.imageshack.us/i/img211yz.jpg/)

[Karlark]

The tails looked a little funny at that angle, didn't appear to be symmetrical. Good one!

Let's see, is there anything ready in the Photobucket.....

Not much to leave to the imagination on this one;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/59-2.jpg

[Noyade]

Curtiss mate?

[Noyade]

Hmmm...now thinking Douglas 8A-5(A-33) - Northrop 8A-3P...?

[Karlark]

:ok: Close enough. I have it as a Swedish B5, Northrop 8A-1.

B 5 - Northrop 8A-1 - Page 1 (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Bomb/154-b5/154B5.htm)

[Noyade]

Thanks Karlark, you're being generous. :)

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6282/img200gp.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/img200gp.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Hi Karl...Tupolev SB2?

Edit, if correct with have to be Open House as just about to hit the hay. Good night.

[Noyade]

"bis"

Your control Ken :ok:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9230/img199t.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/img199t.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Night Ken. :)
Catchya later Karlark! :)

Open House.

[Karlark]

G'nite gents.

[skytrain10]

Morning. As no taker's I'll take up my own OH:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/4f6738f5.jpg
Note that port wing was cropped in original photo.

Edit to say, will be offline for a while. If someone makes a guess and it is supported by someone else please move on.:ok:

[skytrain10]

I'm not sure if it's a case of nobody around or no ideas, but to help you along this is an Amercian homebuild from the 1990's.

[SincoTC]

Good evening Ken,

I've been busy all day and I suspect others have too, so it was likely a case of not many around today!

Is there a foreplane lurking in there somewhere?

Edit:

Assuming there was I had a quick look in Aerofiles and found the Hirt Trio of 1914

[skytrain10]

Hi Trevor,
I suspect others have too, so it was likely a case of not many around today!Yes, I think you're right Trevor.
Is there a foreplane lurking in there somewhere? There is indeed, somewhat muddled up with the starboard u/c in the silhouette.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken, I didn't think that was messy silhouetting :)

No pic on AF, but I just found yours on Air Britain

The Hirt Trio 1994

[skytrain10]

The Hirt Trio 1994 That's the one Trevor:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/01f5fba0.jpg

SincoTC has control

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken,

Something a little older!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC-wtf175.jpg

[skytrain10]

Bristol M.1C?

[SincoTC]

That's the one Ken :D

The Bristol Type 10 M.1C to give it its full title

skytrain10 has control :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor...next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/42593c83.jpg

[SincoTC]

I think that may be the Laron Aviation Wizard II ??

Open House please if it is as I've got an early start tomorrow so i'm gonna hit the hay soon!

Goodnight Ken :ok:

[skytrain10]

Laron Aviation Wizard IIYou've got it Trevor:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/b37d73e5.jpg

SincoTC has declared Open House

Closing down myself now, so goodnight from me.

[skytrain10]

All quiet, so here's one to consider.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/df26d6ee.jpg

[skytrain10]

To help you a long, this aircraft was modified to a "V" strut configuration. You'll find photo's of both on the net.

[Lightning Mate]

Good day Ken.

Parasol or bipe?

[skytrain10]

Hi David....biplane

[skytrain10]

Offline for a while now.

To help you along, this is a 1920's era design. Not American.

Usual rules apply....if someone guesses correctly and it is supported by someone else then please move on.

[skytrain10]

Surprised this one has lasted so long in light of recent challenges!

Another clue....sounds like it was made from a precious metal....

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Ken. :)

Standing up well innit!

[skytrain10]

It is....although have not seen any regulars (other than yourself) on the thread, so I suspect it's still here by default:)

Anyway another clue....I found this in my search for RR's recent challenge.

Edit, good Cryptic one....I had gone the route of the dragon as the monster, german powered being the RWE power station next to St Athan. It was a nice theory anyway!

[Lightning Mate]

Is it the McKenzie Silver Wings. ?

[skytrain10]

Is it the McKenzie Silver Wings. ? It is indeed David....good bit of research:ok: I came across it whilst search for Martin's NZ challenge the other day.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/7aa01357.jpg

Plenty of information about it here: Australian National Aviation Museum - Kelly & Lewis V8 Engine (http://www.aarg.com.au/Kelly&LewisV8Engine.htm)

LM has control

[Karlark]

Good challenge Ken. I think I looked at every country except Australia. :)

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Ken - that took some finding!

There is a small chance that this one might as well.....

A project.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/justblue.jpg

[sabredog]

Kawasaki Ki-91

[Lightning Mate]

It is indeed.

Your thread. :ok:

[sabredog]

Thank you,LM.
Open House

[evansb]

Here is a silhouette:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH111123.jpg

[Noyade]

Piper PA-46 Malibu?

[evansb]

Noyade, it is a Piper PA-46R-350T Matrix, essentially an unpressurized Malibu.
You have control.

[Noyade]

Thanks Bri.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1646/img213n.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/img213n.jpg/)

[Karlark]

Looks to be a Lavochkin La.5

[Ridge Runner]

Fokker D.XXI .. OH if correct!

[Ridge Runner]

Fokker D.XXI - OH if correct ...... submitted at 12:41 UK time... but appears out of order! :)

[Noyade]

Your control Karlark. :)

[Karlark]

Thanks Noyade...

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/58-4.jpg

[Karlark]

The Fokker D XXI is correct RR. :ok:

It's all yours.

I didn't catch your reply right away, looks as though the timeclock has gone wonky :).

Edit; Open House declared by Ridge Runner!

[Noyade]

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5293/img216s.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/i/img216s.jpg/)

[Noyade]

The Challenge at Post # 4376 German Karlark?

(Time Travel is making the threads very hard to follow. :()

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4657/img221t.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/i/img221t.jpg/)

[Karlark]

North American A5 Vigilante?

Edit; Scratch that... maybe a Sukhoi Su-25?
hard to judge the size... :confused:

[Ridge Runner]

A Heinkel, Karlark?

[Ridge Runner]

The timing has gone all screwy again! I just (10:09 Uk time) submitted a reply and it came up as 01:55!!! RR

[Noyade]

Sukhoi Su-25Your control Karlark. :ok: Photographed over Afghanistan circa 1980...

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5664/img219m.jpg (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/img219m.jpg/)

[Karlark]

Thanks!

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/58-5.jpg

Edit to add clue and another view;

Russian
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/58a.jpg

[Karlark]

Not German...

Nice rendering Noyade, except the engine was a 4 cylinder inverted Walter Mikron. :)

[Noyade]

Russian Ah! Thanks Karlark, I think. I was in Belguim...:)

The Gribovski G-23....?

(My interpretation of the tail was way off).

Edit - Just noticed that when you make a new post the Thread Index remains unaltered?! Usually a new post bumps the thread title to the top.

[Noyade]

Testing...

Didn't budge an inch. :(

[Karlark]

Your sketch brought life to the silhouette, and was not too far off.

I have it as the G-22 but since the G-23 was developed from the 22 and is basically the same craft, it's your control. :ok:

I added the top view as an edit to my original post because I had no idea were a new post would have ended up in these times! :)

Nice lines;
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/g22-1.jpg

[Noyade]

I have it as the G-22 but since the G-23

Thanks Karlark. Didn't have my reading glasses on, 2 looked like a 3. . :)

Open house.

[skytrain10]

Been away for a few days, back now and I see its OH:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/53fa33b7.jpg

[JEM60]

Meta-Sokol something? Open house if correct.

[skytrain10]

Meta-Sokol something? Not a Meta-Sokol JEM60.

To help you along, this is a popular European homebuild that first flew in the 1980's.

[Noyade]

Hi Ken. Is it the Cherry...?...


http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1882/img226p.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/img226p.jpg/)

[Noyade]

If it is mate, it'll have to be open house, as I'll be away most of this week.

Cheers. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Hi Graeme, yep, it is the Brandli BX-2 Cherry from Switzerland:ok: Reports say some 100 built with over 250 kits sold to date

Noyade has declared Open House.

[skytrain10]

Just to keep the thread going.....

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d1f3dfee.jpg

[evansb]

Dassault Mirage 2000 ?

[skytrain10]

Dassault Mirage 2000 Right company Bri, but not the Mirage 2000

[evansb]

Pakistan Air Force Mirage III ?

[skytrain10]

Pakistan Air Force Mirage III ? That's the one - in this case a Dassault Mirage IIIO of the Pakistan AF (formerly with the RAAF).:D:D

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/95681664.jpg

evansb has control

[evansb]

Thanks. Here is the next silhouette:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/b27c7f4d99325deb47d5b86c4d6c530c1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Looks like a Caribou to me.

[skytrain10]

Looks like a Caribou to me. Certainly looks like one:ok:. Morning David, a very quiet weekend on SC...let's hope it picks up a little this week.

[Lightning Mate]

Good afternoon Ken. :)
I was not around at the weekend because we are having a new kitchen installed.

We are all now unemployed and EPTA is in liquidation. We have been kindly given a classroom by another well-known company to continue servicing our current university course. Unfortunately we are unpaid.

No access to computers so I am posting using a colleagues' laptop.

[skytrain10]

Ah, had wondered why you were quiet. Hope you both like your new acquisition. Trust you will be cooking some nice meals for Mrs LM:ok:

Sorry to hear about EPTA mate. Nice that you are finishing off the course though - I'm sure the students will appreciate that.

Cheers

[Ridge Runner]

Oh dear.. sorry David. I heard about your former employer. RR

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks for your sentiments guys.

However, I always look on the bright side. No need to go to work unless lecturing, which this week means only today and tomorrow.

Therefore lots of time to play on the thread. :ok:

[evansb]

Yes, LM, it is indeed a de Havilland Canada DHC-4 Caribou. :ok:You have control.

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Brian.

An easy one rewarded by another easy one - limited monitoring capability.......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/blaaak.jpg

BTW - NEVER go to CABAIR unless you want a cowboy outfit for Christmas..........:mad::mad:

[sabredog]

Dornier DO-335 A-6 ?
Open House,if correct

[SincoTC]

Evening LM,

Therefore lots of time to play on the thread.

Glad you can see the bright side mate, hard luck!

Can't see a lower fin of the usual cruciform tail, or a pusher prop, but do see a dorsal intake for a turbojet in the tail, therefore suspect it's a Dornier Do-435 (AKA C-435) Presumably this was a proposed night-fighter variant ?

[Lightning Mate]

Nicely done Stig!

Your turn mate.:ok:

See y'all soon........................:)

[SincoTC]

Thanks David,

here we go!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC-wtf176.jpg

[evansb]

Proposed Lockheed bomber ?

[SincoTC]

Bomber yes, Lockheed no, proposed no, two built :)

[Ridge Runner]

It looks like a jap to me

[SincoTC]

Morning Martin,

It does have that Japanese look about it doesn't it, but it isn't :)

Edit:

I'm in and out of the workshop at the moment, but I'll leave my light on and monitor as often as possible!

[Lightning Mate]

Myasishchev DVB-102....................

[SincoTC]

'Artnoon LM,

Myasishchev DVB-102....................

Why so quiet mate? It is the Myasishchev DVB-102 :D

The DVB-102 was a long-range, high-altitude bomber. Only two prototypes were built, because it was decided to copy the B-29 as the Tu-4.



http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/DVB-102-05.jpg

Lightning Mate has control :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

'Artnoon to you TC.

I didn't mean to sound quiet, it's just that the paste came out grey.

At home now so just rustling up another one if you care to bear with me a little while.

Most of my prepared challenges are on what was my work computer, and Dumbo here forgot to grab them before we were locked out of the building.

Almost £20,000 of rent on it outstanding.......................do I care!

[Lightning Mate]

Found one I had ready. :)

Here you go............

edit : rudder trim tab....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/artnoon-1.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Walter engines, david?

[Lightning Mate]

Please standby Martin - just checking......

Not Walters mate.

[skytrain10]

Afternoon David. Not had much time to look in...are those Gipsy engines?

[Lightning Mate]

Nein mate..................:)

[evansb]

Gotha Go.150 ?

[Lightning Mate]

That's the one Bri - all yours. :ok:

[evansb]

Thanks David. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH111130.jpg

[sabredog]

EA-3B Skywarrior ?

[evansb]

Terrence, you are spot on:ok: A.K.A. The Whale. Your turn.

[sabredog]

Many Thanks,Brian.
Open House

[skytrain10]

Taking advantage of the OH:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/bef8f12e.jpg

[Noyade]

It has the "look and feel of a classic WWII era warbird" Ken, but is it just a little pussy? :)

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9929/img227.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/img227.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Thats the one Graeme, the Prowler Jaguar...good bit of research mate:ok:

Noyade has control

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken. For some reason I initially thought it was a French (Jurca?) kit plane.

New one...

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/539/img230h.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/img230h.jpg/)

[sabredog]

Darzhavna Aeroplanna Rabotilnica DAR 10F?

[Noyade]

You had me at "Dar" mate. :)

Your control sabredog.

[Lightning Mate]

Evening Graeme. :)

Being unemployed is somewhat boring!

[skytrain10]

Being unemployed is somewhat boring! Morning David...yes I know what you mean from previous experience. Hopefully sabredog will have something lined up for us soon to take away the boredom:ok:. Am around for the next few days - just going to line up some potential challenges:)

[Noyade]

Morning David. :)

You're a tough bastard, I'm sure you'll move on. I hear that Aldi are hiring...

welcome to ALDI smarter careers recruitment site (http://www.aldismartercareers.com.au/Default.aspx?WT.z_src=main)

:)

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme....see Aldi are over there too...certainly spreading their wings.

[Noyade]

Morning Ken. Just stirring. I think David mentioned last year how much he disliked Aldi. :)

[sabredog]

Apologies,Gentlemen, for the delay.
Nothing to submit ,thus;
Open House.

[skytrain10]

Ah....sure it wasn't Audi he was talking about:)

[Noyade]

Open House.

Thanks sabredog. You got something Ken? It's 2245 hrs here...

[skytrain10]

Bit of a rush job, but here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/38df8428.jpg

[Noyade]

Another kit plane/homebuilt mate? Woody Pusher or something? Looking now...

[skytrain10]

Not a kit plane. European design, 1930's.

[Noyade]

I was thinking of the Aerosport Woody's Pusher, but the tail is wrong. Also thought the Curtiss CW-1, but again the tail doesn't fit...

European design, 1930's.

I just looked up. Thanks.

[Noyade]

Last stab before retiring...Dutch?

[skytrain10]

Last stab before retiring...Dutch? You're too young mate:) Not Dutch. Go on, make yourself a cuppa and stick around a little longer:)

[Noyade]

Thanks, but no thanks. Catch you another time. I'm sure Trevor will be having a coffee break shortly. :) Night!

[skytrain10]

Alright Graeme....good night and catch you tonight/tomorrow. Cheers

Expect David will be back on line when he's finished shopping at Aldi:)

[evansb]

B.A.C. Super Drone ?

[skytrain10]

B.A.C. Super Drone ? Morning Bri, not the Super Drone. Not a British aircraft.

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken,

Dog sitting again, so first look-in of the day :)

That tail has a Brochet look about it! I see that Maurice B constructed a similar looking aircraft under the confusing name of Avia 50, but the photo in AviaFrance looks to have a more rounded forward fuselage than indicated on the drawing and slightly different U/C struts, but I'm always a little wary of deviations from the drawings occuring during the actual construction :ooh:!!

Any connection, if not I'll ask is it Belgian?

[skytrain10]

Hi Trevor
Good investigation...it is actually the Avia 50MP, or I would have accepted Brochet MB.20 as they are externally similar.
No photo to offer from my source.
SincoTC has control:ok:

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken,

I was just coming back to say that closer inspection of the photo and the drawing make me think that the drawing shows a single seater, but the photo looks like "rounded side cheeks" have been added for side-by side seats and the track of the U/C widened accordingly.

I'm just off walkies at the moment and I'm not sure if I will have connection at the house-sit location as they've changed all their computers to Mac and I'm not sure about the wireless router 'til I get there; so I'll call an Open House at the moment as there are others on line at the moment and play it by ear later, so please don't wait in case I can't get back online 'til tomorrow.

Open House

[evansb]

Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH111201.jpg

[Karlark]

I want one.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/0674858.jpg

Partenavia Aero Scooter

[evansb]

Karlark is correct.:ok: The version in the photo was transformed into an autogiro.
Your turn!

[Karlark]

Thanks Evansb. Here's the next one done in short order;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/70-3.jpg

[Noyade]

Hi Karlark. Folding wings?

Quick stab. Air Tractor AT-802?

[skytrain10]

EMB-202 Ipanema?

[Karlark]

Winglets close up... looks like Skytrain has it :ok:.

Your control Ken


Edit; Graeme, here's the actual picture:

Photos: Embraer EMB-202A Ipanema Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Embraer-EMB-202A-Ipanema/1385410/L/)

[skytrain10]

Cheers Karl.

Here's the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/81648ac2.jpg

[Noyade]

Hi Ken. We still in France mate?

Brochet MB-110?

[skytrain10]

We still in France mate? Morning Graeme....no, we've left France now...gone west:)

[Noyade]

gone westhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gifDo we need to cross a large body of water?

[skytrain10]

Do we need a to cross a large body of water? You do indeed:ok:

[Noyade]

Unusual looking tail...many built?

Edit. Homebuilt? Murphy Rebel?

[skytrain10]

Unusual looking tail...many built? Looking at the photos on the web it seems the tail was modified a little at some point and has a more rounded appearance on at least 2 aircraft. Only a few built.

[Noyade]

Sorry mate, I've wasted have a thread page asking you questions. :(

Only a few built.

Sounds like it was in the "past?" Last question then...can you tell me the decade? :)

[skytrain10]

Last question then...can you tell me the decade? First flew in the early 80's.

Edit. Homebuilt? Murphy Rebel? Sorry mised your edit...not a Murphy and not a homebuild.

[Lightning Mate]

Expect David will be back on line when he's finished shopping at Aldihttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

....and don't forget Primark. :p:p

[Noyade]

Primark.Looks like a girlie shop mate? They sell power tools? :)

No luck my end Ken. If you can't make the answer fit the silhouette, make the silhouette fit an answer...

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7540/81648ac2.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/i/81648ac2.jpg/)
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5521/img233xe.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/img233xe.jpg/)

At your leisure, another clue please Ken...:(

[skytrain10]

Looks like a girlie shop mate?He's in touch with his feminine side:) It's alright though, they sell menwear as well. Not a choice for power tools!

If you can't make the answer fit the silhouette, make the silhouette fit an answer... Evening Graeme...I like your style:ok:

Clue....deisgned as a military trainer/observation aircraft. Not from the US.

[Lightning Mate]

Not a choice for power tools!

....or Rolex or Mercedes Benz.....:)

Is the challenge Canadian?

[skytrain10]

Is the challenge Canadian? Morning David....not Canadian.

Got a very nice Rolex from a dealer in KL some time back...he even let me choose one from the catalogue. And its got a genuine Seiko movement:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

So a Lolex then!

By deduction I feel your challenge must therefore be South American.

Kitchen fitter just pitched up - back later.

[skytrain10]

By deduction I feel your challenge must therefore be South American. Not South American mate:)

So a Lolex then! It's a good Lolex though - continuous second hand movement:ok: And its Swiss made....or is that sliss made?:)

[Lightning Mate]

So,

west from France
cross a large body of water
not US, Canadian, or South American.

:\

[skytrain10]

west from France
cross a large body of water
not US, Canadian, or South American. Correct....!

So that leaves a collection of countries that make up Central America....

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Ken!!!

mexican..?

[skytrain10]

mexican..? Hi Martin....yes, Mexican. Now it should be pretty easy:ok:

Edit to say, as there have been a lot of posts, here is a repeat of the challenge:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/81648ac2.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry.. been busy...

the Tonatiuh

Open House from me I'm afraid... Nice challenge!

RR

[skytrain10]

Hi Martin...yes Mexican sort of gave it away! It is indeed the IPN Tonatiuh:ok:. Designed to meet a requirement for a training/observation aircraft for the Mexican Navy, it first flew in 1982. Just 8 built.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/340178e8.jpg

Ridge Runner has declared Open House.

[Karlark]

I just happen to have a silhouette I need to get rid of :);

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/74d.jpg

[evansb]

Looks like a Martin XP6M-1 Seamaster ?

[Karlark]

Hello Evansb, yes, that's it :ok:.

I figured it needed to get on this list, as well as the Challenge list. :)

Your control.

[evansb]

Thanks Karlark. I initially thought your silhouette was the Myasishchev M-4/3M. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH111202.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day Bri. :)

Dittmar HD.153 Motor-Mowe...

Dittmar HD.153 Motor-Mowe (http://www.crimso.msk.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft31689.htm)

[evansb]

Yes, Noyade, spot on:ok: The designer was better known for his gliders.
You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/motor-moewe_1181.jpg

[Noyade]

Thanks Bri. I don't have anything remotely rare, and certainly not Mexican....:)

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/7259/img228h.jpg (http://img607.imageshack.us/i/img228h.jpg/)

[sabredog]

Hawker Sea Hurricane?

[Noyade]

Yes mate, your control Sabredog. :ok:

[sabredog]

Thank you,Noyade.
Open House

[skytrain10]

Taking up the OH:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/43fcaf9c.jpg

[Noyade]

Hi Ken. First thought was Mister Mulligan or some sort of Howard. But before I go further, is it American/USA? :)

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme. Nice to see someone around...its been dead today:(

Its a European design. 1940's.

[Noyade]

Well I wouldn't have thought European. There you go.

Stab. Romanian?

its been dead today:(

Sign of the times mate. :(

[Noyade]

1940's. Do you mean during WW2? It appears to be a civilian light aircraft and I thought Europe was either being destroyed or making only military aircraft?

Or post War?

[skytrain10]

Or post War? Yep, post WWII. Civilian aircraft, just the one built, and still in existance today.

[Noyade]

Yep, post WWII. Civilian aircraft, just the one built, and still in existance today. I have absolutely no idea Ken, and your Mexican has shattered my confidence and sanity. Kept looking at it and it was screaming at me, "Auster AOP-9!" and I would scream back, "stop it, Ken said your not!"

Your latest now screams, "Howard!"

Cut back on the coffee?!

[skytrain10]

and your Mexican has shattered my confidence and sanity All part of my masterplan:):) Soon I'll have you believing a Comet is a Boeing 707, and there'll be nothing you can do about it!!!
Your latest now screams, "Howard!" The plan is already working!!! However, the aircraft is loosely connected to a not dissimilar looking American aircraft, that was used by the owner of the challenge aircraft pre WWII:)

[Noyade]

Soon I'll have you believing a Comet is a Boeing 707 Stop farking with my mind! :(

Well, I'm going to log off and think about it. Beautiful looking day here so I don't know much thinking I'll get done. Cheers mate, sleep well. :ok: