Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[Noyade]

Thanks Brian. Never realised how productive IAR was.

Not from Romania...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2dce64k.jpg

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

Could be a Short Kent ??

[Noyade]

That's the one Trevor - your control. :ok:

[SincoTC]

Thanks Graeme,
A nice atmospheric photo!

Here's the next:

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf275_zpsddd5f1e3.jpg

[evansb]

Travel Air Type R Mystery Ship ?

[SincoTC]

Travel Air Type R Mystery Ship

That's the one :D

evansb has control :ok:

[evansb]

Thank you. Identify this mystery ship:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/da2c83be-4036-452f-ab80-4a42ee88aedc_zpsa7d269f9.jpg

[Noyade]

Initially thought the Dassault MD 316T but now thinking some sort of single-tail version of the Bretagne?

[evansb]

Yes, it is the prototype Sud Ouest (SNCASO) SO.30N.:D You've control!

[Noyade]

Thanks Brian.

Should be easy...

http://i40.tinypic.com/ofx72h.jpg

[Noyade]

Maybe not.

French.
First flight 12 June 1966.

[TheiC]

Looked like a real aircraft, but now I think it may be just a Mirage.

F2, that is.

[Noyade]

Mirage F2G'day TheiC. Well done mate, your control! :ok:

[TheiC]

Merci bien...

Try this one...

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3733/xt0e.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day mate. :)

No idea what it is, but very nice. Good to see you here!

Can I ask if it flew or was it a project?

[TheiC]

Morning - or perhaps evening!

Can I ask if it flew or was it a project?

You're welcome to ask, and the answer (to the best of my knowledge) is that it did not fly and it was not a project...

[Noyade]

Morning mate. Well I'm looking at the tail wondering if it's French and if there was any connection to the Aerospatiale TB 30 Epsilon?...

http://i41.tinypic.com/212z7yc.jpg

[TheiC]

It's not French, and there's no connection to the best of my knowledge...

[Noyade]

Evening mate.

So it was built but never got to fly? Are we looking outside Europe within say the last 20 years?

[TheiC]

Information is a little sparse. Under oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, I would not say that

it was built but never got to fly

In better news:

Yes, it's not European, and yes, it's nascence lies within the last 20 years.

[Noyade]

nascence

Good word! Had to Google it. :)

Interesting. Built but not flown - I thought that would be a very rare thing these days? And it looks like a substantial machine - a tandem piston engine trainer?

From a country outside of the USA?
And did this manufacturer have success with other aircraft designs?

(objection your honor - badgering the challenger!)

[TheiC]

[clears throat; stands; faces Bench]

It might help the understanding of the court if I were to interject, with your Honour's permission, and say that it would not be true to say that this aircraft was built but not flown.

[sits]

Let me guess, His Honour Judge Noyade reaches for the black cap any time now!

[TheiC]

...and for completeness:

a tandem piston engine trainer ...is partially true but not completely true

From a country outside of the USA ...is true

And did this manufacturer have success with other aircraft designs? Yes it did.

Further research on the subject aircraft this evening has made things less, not more, clear!

[Noyade]

You sound like an unreliable witness! :)

Trying to think outside the circle here. Are you possibly suggesting it's pilotless? Not flown buy a pilot inside it? A drone/UAV thingy?

[TheiC]

No to all the above.

I remember a lovely crossword clue in a comedy programme on the TV here. One character was an absolute demon at crossword puzzles, but failed miserably at one clue which his colleagues all got first time. It got right under his skin.

His problem was, he kept looking but not seeing.

This was the clue:

GEGS (9,4)

...and with that in mind, I say again: it was not a project :)

[Noyade]

This was the clue: GEGS (9,4)

Mate, anyone who uses nascence in everyday talk is way smarter than me, and now crossword clues? :)

Gonna make another coffee and ponder this. The witness can step down...

[Noyade]

His problem was, he kept looking but not seeing.

So I'm missing something that should be glaringly obvious? Hmmm....
Are we looking at an up and coming Asian country?

[TheiC]

Not missing something, exactly...

No, not Asia... The country of origin is listed by the IMF as an emerging economy but other groups of analysts disagree.

[Noyade]

Wow, 0320 hrs and you're still awake?! Now that is Silhouette Challenge dedication! :ok:

I'll leave you be, and keep pondering.....

[TheiC]

Up early rather than still awake... But only to investigate why the security lights went on outside.

I'm afraid it's not the Epsilon.

This aircraft has not flown.

[evansb]

UNASUR-1/IA-73 ? Scrambled eggs ?

[TheiC]

Well done!

Spot on on both counts. It's the IA73, which now looks as though it will proceed as the UNASUR 1 with collaboration of several South America states.

You have control!

[evansb]

Thanks! That was an interesting challenge.

Not a silhouette, but here is the next mystery aeroplane:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/8b15d16e-4597-4a54-9120-a893cb391a14_zps86ac6d39.jpg

[Noyade]

UNASUR-1/IA-73

Nicely done Brian! But what was the scrambled eggs connection?

Your latest > A project? Grumman or possibly Russian? Or maybe Mexican?

[TheiC]

Graeme, sorry you missed it after all your hard work...

GEGS = scrambled eggs

[Noyade]

GEGS = scrambled eggs Thanks TheiC, I sorta got that - but was there any connection to the IA-73?
(I gotta know/remember these things for next time. :))

[evansb]

It was a Mexican design.

[Noyade]

It was a Mexican design. Thanks. Maybe this mate?

http://i41.tinypic.com/34qtdux.jpg

[evansb]

Yes, the T.N.C.A. MTW-1. Sorry if it was posted before. You are in control!
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/TNCA_MTW1_zps0e42aca1.jpg

[Noyade]

Thanks Brian.

Sorry if it was posted before.No need to be sorry, I don't think it matters anymore mate.

This was gonna be a What Aerodrome contestant, but Google Image kept finding it so I applied the old 'photograph the monitor' technique to beat it. A little blurry and in the end I thought it wasn't very 'airporty' but the aircraft is interesting, so here we go...

http://i39.tinypic.com/2628hev.jpg

[Noyade]

The aircraft is at Tayoltita in Mexico and belongs to the Corporación de Aeronáutica de Transportes airline (C.A.T) which was founded early in 1929 by a Los Angeles banker and private pilot, Theodore Hull...

[evansb]

Bach 3-CT-9 ?

[Noyade]

Nicely done Brian - your control! :ok:

[evansb]

Excellent challenge! I didn't use the clue, but thanks anyway. Here is the next mystery
aircraft: (Two views)
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/43d3298b-683c-4376-bde6-a918af375e40_zps364b20f5.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/38f2975c-55d6-4221-a3bb-288c5b534de6_zps1d7579d9.jpg
Note that most of the models produced were tandem open-cockpit versions, and did not have wheel fairings.

[Noyade]

Another Mexican?

[evansb]

Not Mexican, but in the Western Hemisphere.

[Noyade]

South America > Argentina?

[carson1934]

I believe it is the C.N.N.A. HL6 (Brazil 1942)
If correct open board please
carson1934

[evansb]

carson1934 is correct. The Brazilian CNNA Aviao H.L.6.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/AVIAOHL-61949_zpsb76c6db3.jpg

As requested, it is OPEN HOUSE.

[Noyade]

An easier one...

http://imgbin.me/image/UBVENKQV.jpg

[ICT_SLB]

Put me in mind of a Heybag - but, of course, that's a biplane. Looking through that aircraft's Profile, led me to its fellow competitor for Air Ministry Specification B19/27, the Fairey Hendon. OH, I'm afraid if I'm right as it's bed time in the Central Time Zone.

[Noyade]

Yes, the Hendon. :ok:

OPEN HOUSE.

[heshamh]

Hi all,

I miss you gays,here is a big challenge,a project;


http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af130/hasann_hesham/A_zps2f92e85d.jpg

[heshamh]

Hi,

it is consider a project,not quietly.

[heshamh]

I will go outside foe six hours,I hope you can get it,it was from USA.

[Rosevidney1]

I don't suppose we are all gays, heshamh. :confused:

[TheiC]

Taking everything at face value... If my Egyptian Arabic was half as good as heshamh's English, I'd be content.

Masaa el kheer, heshamh. Is this aircraft related to the Douglas line at all?

[Kieron Kirk]

The rather distinctive fin suggests Consolidated/Vultee ?

Ciarain.

[Lightning Mate]

I think it's a Convair.

[Lightning Mate]

I will go outside foe six hours

Five days is a long six hours !

[Kluseau]

Hmm... I was convinced it was a Bell X-1, but it seems the shape of the top of the fin is wrong and the nose isn't pointy enough... And are those intakes beside the cockpit? OK, not exactly a Bell X-1 then...

[Kluseau]

Perhaps a change of scale is called for. How about the Douglas XB-43 Jetmaster? More particularly the (possibly unbuilt) A-43 version with eight machine guns in a solid nose.
Douglas XB-43 Jetmaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_XB-43_Jetmaster)

[Lightning Mate]

He said it was a project.

Therefore, in my book, it wasn't built.

I think it's something to do with quiet attack aircraft.

[Noyade]

Bingo! :)

Thanks to Ken (Skytrain10)....

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/silhouette-challenge/AOM1NaItJ1Y

And please, look us over....:ok:

Aircraft Identification Quiz - Google Groups (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/silhouette-challenge)

I was convinced it was a Bell X-1You had the right idea mate. A NASA Project, The NASA MCD 524....

http://imgbin.me/image/JLPRQQRH.jpg
http://imgbin.me/image/JXOKWYPZ.jpg

I suggest OPEN HOUSE.

[heshamh]

Sorry my friends for my late,

my father went to hospital for five days,and after that,I forgot everything,yes
Noyad is right,OPEN HOUSE.

[Kluseau]

Any ideas for this, an unusual and remarkably noisy aircraft:

http://www.arachnid.co.uk/images/mysteryaircraft.jpg

[Noyade]

my father went to hospital for five daysI hope he's OK now Hesham.

Any ideas for thisLooks like the Soko P-2 Kraguj mate?

[Kluseau]

Looks like the Soko P-2 Kraguj mate?

Well that proved suitably elusive... not! Well done.:)

[Noyade]

Thanks Kluseau!

I'll say open house for the moment...
...but in the backgound, I'm looking for a silhouette.

[Noyade]

I gave up on the silhouette.
A photo instead...

http://imgbin.me/image/NBEWDINZ.jpg

[Noyade]

A Boeing...

[Karlark]

I knew it looked familiar, P-12 monoplane; XF5B-1

[Noyade]

Your control Karl.

[Karlark]

Thanks Graeme, here's the next:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/Nov%202013/35_zps44f8fe3c.jpg

[Noyade]

Hi Karl.

The Berliner-Joyce XF2J-1?

[Karlark]

The Berliner-Joyce XF2J-1?

That is the one and only. :ok:

Your control Graeme.

[Noyade]

Thanks Karl - Open House.

[Karlark]

The next one for the open house:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/Nov%202013/37_zps4404e88f.jpg

[carson1934]

Good afternoon to everybody (or whatever the time is in your country)!
It looks tremendously like a Potez 25/47....
Cheers
Carson1934

[Karlark]

Very close Carson. The second aircraft of this designation looked like this:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/Nov%202013/39_zps06938394.jpg

[carson1934]

In this case we are talking about the Potez 28/2....
If correct open board please as I'm away from my domicile and haven't got adequate material to submit...
Cheers
carson1934

[Karlark]

In this case we are talking about the Potez 28

This is correct. :ok:

Open House per Carson1934.

[Karlark]

Still open house.... Here's one for consideration:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/Nov%202013/33_zps045bedcc.jpg

[seacue]

My initial reaction is Northrup, but I can't find anything similar.

[Karlark]

Not a Northrop but it is from the US... a one-off aircraft.

[heshamh]

Thank you Noyade,

and sorry I am very busy this days,but I will try to communicate.

[evansb]

Cunningham-Hall GA-36 ?

[Karlark]

Cunningham-Hall GA-36:ok: yes, that is the one. :D

evansb's control

[evansb]

Thank you. Here is the next challenge:
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b477/gumpjr_bucket/mcminville.jpg

[evansb]

It is a Nieuport-Delage NID-450.

OPEN HOUSE.

[heshamh]

A hard one,project.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af130/hasann_hesham/404_zpsadb5b7df.jpg

[heshamh]

Flying wing or tailless aircraft,from USA.

[heshamh]

Last chance, Boeing.

[heshamh]

It was Boeing Model-404.

Open House

[heshamh]

Hi,

a very easy project;

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af130/hasann_hesham/1_zpsdaa095fb.jpg

[heshamh]

It was from USA.

[heshamh]

Hi,

where are you guys ?,it was Waco YC-62.

Open House

[Lightning Mate]

Hesham,


This thread is dead - stop wasting your time.

[Rosevidney1]

heshamh posed valid historical questions that were above our ability to answer correctly and for that he ought to be congratulated.

[TheiC]

Quite.

Hesham, well done. Please stay with us.

[heshamh]

Thank you Rosevidney1 and TheiC,

and I am with you,but I am always busy by my favorite site;

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php

for my dear Lighting,I hope to that topic still open,to submit a new
designs.

[heshamh]

Hi,

a project from WW1,I hope we make this topic alive again.

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/heshamh/1_zps028d6e4f.png

[heshamh]

Hi,

it was the French Astra twin boom bomber project.

Open House

[Lightning Mate]

I admire your persistence and sentiments Hesham.


However, all the old players have moved to a site of their own.


Please keep trying.

[evansb]

A silhouette challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/553ed7bf-dc67-4709-ba35-8322cabf3174_zps781c68c3.jpg

[India Four Two]

Nice riposte to LM. Well done evansb.

I had to remind myself of the differences between Hudson and Ventura, before choosing the Ventura.

[evansb]

Yes, :ok: the unsung RCAF Lockheed GR. Mk.V Ventura to be specific. The GR. Mk.V had greater range than the PV-1, and the bomb bay was modified to carry 6 depth charges and one torpedo. The RCAF operated more Lockheed GR.Vs than Dakotas or Mitchells, or even it's stable-mate, the venerable Lockheed Hudson. Simon, (India Four Two), has control.

[India Four Two]

Thanks.

A couple of years ago, I visited the fantastic aviation museum in Edmonton and while I was there, poked around in the back and looked at the crashed Ventura that is being restored, with the intention of making it airworthy.

I hadn't appreciated how big a Ventura is. The restoration crew have a major project on their hands!

http://www.rcafventura.ca/pages/ab_us.htm

I don't have a prepared silhouette, so while I try to prepare one, in the mean time Open House.

[Noyade]

I hadn't appreciated how big a Ventura isAnd fast! I saw one at an airshow once in the early nineties and remember the commentator saying low down they were faster than the Jap Zero.

Not as fast...

http://i61.tinypic.com/2zz6dja.jpg

[LowNSlow]

Noyade, would they be Curtiss Hawk 75's "somewhere over France"?

[clunckdriver]

Brewster Buffalos, wiped out in combat in the far East, but flown with devastating effect by the Fins against the Russians, open house SVP.

[Noyade]

Brewster BuffalosWell done Clunckdriver. :ok:

We have Open House.

[heshamh]

Hi all,

a fighter project from USA;


http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/heshamh/1_zps4f84b1ca.png

[heshamh]

Hi guys,it is easy,

we can say Boeing,last chance.

[heshamh]

Hi,

it was Boeing Model-245,OPEN HOUSE.

[Auxtank]

Well, Heikkis fans - just found this old thread - let's blow off the cobwebs - I've just acquired a book of Heikkis silhouettes - lots of them, so I'll take the OH offered by 'heshamh' - all those years ago...


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x227/fhfd_b23e7a504f8927c34ead4374b56afb55a0864218.png

[Auxtank]

Nobody want a pop at it?

[dook]

I've been looking.

[Self loading bear]

Nobody want a pop at it?

Good initiative
i understood that some people are put-off when I would react by saying that I Let this one go?

[Auxtank]

Good initiative
i understood that some people are put-off when I would react by saying that I Let this one go?

Best to LET things go SLB


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x539/jtjyj_fb5181ecdcabb632b06a64067f6288efed525400.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Thanks Auxtank,
edited:
From The other threads: we have respect The 24-hr rule here as well
Perhaps there are more twin turboprops with high wing and slight V elevators?

[dook]

I searched for twin turboprop with sponsons and thought it might be the Dornier/Aeritalia AAA.

[evansb]

HP Jetstream comes to mind.

[Auxtank]

HP Jetstream comes to mind.

Similar size and performance though one is low-wing and one is high-wing...

[Auxtank]

Well done SLB - you got the LET L-410 UVP Turbojet,
with the Walter M-601B turboprops - though earlier versions were powered by P & W PT6A-27.
It looks like a lot of fun to fly.

You have the stick.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x567/d4nrw6bx4aehrn__aa316f3aa3c0f0a83b01ccc544362283fbca2f64.jpg

[dook]

Not fun to fly unless it's got reheat and a trigger. :E

[Self loading bear]

Thanks Auxtank,
Let’s change to the big diversity of twin radials.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/197x132/cedd68d5_1eff_4061_a986_957dc555982a_47054a66c472f52793f2544 0e8d0ff80ebc50f55.jpeg

[Auxtank]

Not fun to fly unless it's got reheat and a trigger. :E

Defo hasn't got either of those F1 man - but just look at it - it's a tank, that got immersed in it's own aspirations of being able to fly...

Those spindly little wings, they're so sweet, reckon there's a goodly amount of thrust coming aft over them from those Walters...
I'd fly it - just for the fun of it - but I'd want my parachute under my arse. (dinghy too and EPIRB and silver foil stuff - but it would be well worth it)

[dook]

Caproni Ca135S.

edit: I think you may have used this....

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/302x450/caproni_3_view_c3caae35ea664af18643910d18db47b1b710dfa7.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Dook
You have the right answer.
CA-135 not such a succes in Italy but exported to Hungary and Peru. Although only six went to Peru they caused some some considerable concerns in some neighboring countries.
CA-135 in Peru (https://www.laahs.com/those-peruvian-ca-135s/)

[dook]

Good morning/evening/afternoon everyone.

A silhouette:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x336/sat_418334f68173ee11721d8c4ac579477fb1331396.png

[Auxtank]

Tail dragger - but looking very like the Archer. Ummm!

Early Cessna, low-wing tryout before they went high-wing and tricycle.
(PPL skills being tested by the old F1 "fast boy" here...

Wait, that looks, hold it just a god damn minute....

Have it; Robin DR-250.
Check out the Stall Warning Flapper Piece on the starboard wing...it rings a tone and tells you the flutter is incoming and it's time to firewall the throttle because you have gone wrong...

[dook]

Check the fin shape again.

It's not a Robin and not even European.

[Self loading bear]

Tail dragger - but looking very like the Archer. Ummm!

Early Cessna, low-wing tryout before they went high-wing and tricycle.
(PPL skills being tested by the old F1 "fast boy" here...

Wait, that looks, hold it just a god damn minute....

Have it; Robin DR-250.
Check out the Stall Warning Flapper Piece on the starboard wing...it rings a tone and tells you the flutter is incoming and it's time to firewall the throttle because you have gone wrong...

I fear you are Not right.
Shape of tail fin is different.
Oleo struts have fairing with Robins (silhouette not)

I think Me and you can keep on searching.

[dook]

PM for Bear.

[Auxtank]

Sorry both dook and Bear.
A long night out an about, then in to quarters - followed by a wild stab in the dark.
Auxtank is now retiring with a surfeit...

Have a another look in the morning...
It does look French, however...
Fly Free!

[dook]

It is not European.

[dook]

Southern hemisphere.

[dook]

The new silhouette thread doesn't appear to be attracting much attention.

This trainer is from Argentina and first flew in 1943.

[Asturias56]

"The new silhouette thread doesn't appear to be attracting much attention"

Interest waned when the Mods saw it as an attempt to get round the 24 hour rule.....................

[Asturias56]

nad the plane is an IMPA Tu-Sa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMPA_Tu-Sa

"In service, the aircraft demonstrated a number of serious and fundamental design flaws that led to a series of accidents and pilots joking that Tu-Sa stood for Todo Un Sarcófago Aéreo ("Altogether an aerial coffin"). "

OH if correct

[dook]

"Interest waned when the Mods saw it as an attempt to get round the 24 hour rule..................... "

I disagree.

However, you have found the IMPA Tu-SA - well done.

Asturias has declared OH.

[dook]

This thread does not seem to attract much interest.

[Auxtank]

We're niche here in Shadow Land.

Get your teeth in to this one...

Auxtank is, as Asters is want to say; "Nipping out for a bit."


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/900x355/dbd_131f507fc05e69f9b01b26c836a3630f0c9b2689.jpg

[dook]

Weapons stations look Saab-ish.

Appears a canard delta.

[Auxtank]

Alas, neither of those.

[Asturias56]

French perhaps?

[Auxtank]

French perhaps?

Go East my son.

[dook]

Nanchang Q5

[Auxtank]

Good dook.
You have controls?

[dook]

Cheers Auxtank.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x352/sat_2__d6fe5cec3101885e5714a24bfc453608662e7d0e.jpg

[John Eacott]

Mitsubishi X-2 Shinshin ?

[dook]

A commendable guess but it's not a Mitsubishi.

[Auxtank]

ATG Javelin?

[Self loading bear]

The challenge has a pronounced “knuckle” in the fin.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/216x152/4fa340f2_f15f_420c_9e4f_e752b9ac6d13_4e898932a25ee9f46837e14 91037926778d38c1d.jpeg

Like MiG -35???
But probably more aircraft like that.

[dook]

It's not a MiG either.

[Asturias56]

Is it Russian?

[dook]

It isn't Russian.

[Auxtank]

I thought Mig-29 but then I saw that the fins are canted.

[dook]

Auxtank gets the banana with the ATG Javelin.

All yours Auxtank.

[Auxtank]

I have control. Thank you.

Right. Eyes down...


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/500x191/fddff_1fbf59bd63031c23cb56c088eda5d0923b6a9ed2.jpg

[dook]

Is it the Soko J-22 ?

[Auxtank]

Is it the Soko J-22 ?

Very good there dook. Correct. I have no idea how you managed to get that one.

You have control.

[dook]

Many thanks Aux.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x408/monday_5c5cc2f2600d8df53de47b26555fd481cfde96a2.jpg

[Asturias56]

Partenavia P.68 perhaps?

[Archer4]

Or the Tecnam P2006T.

[dook]

Not a Partenavia or Tecnam.

[sycamore]

Is it R-R/Allison powered...?

[dook]

Lycoming O-320

[Self loading bear]

The Wickham B

[dook]

Well done Bear.

Your shot.

[Self loading bear]

Thank you Dook,
searching twin prop high wing lycoming did the trick.

Now this:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/824x324/5ecb45cb_5e0f_4838_aa68_189f0b6710d7_0b4d1bf7de029e696176ffe 60d4dc7e67e981a21.jpeg

[Asturias56]

Petlyakov Pe-2 (Pawn) Dive Bomber / Light Bomber (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.militaryfactory.com%2Faircraft%2Fdetai l.asp%3Faircraft_id%3D298&psig=AOvVaw2f5M_WNRzCb4ZApaSPB67z&ust=1583372986842000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAkQjhxqFwoTCMDQ0KDa_-cCFQAAAAAdAAAAABBN)????/

[Jamesel]

I thought perhaps the Seibel 204, but that has no dihedral in the centre section. Dassault MD 315 Flamant?

I believe a couple are still airworthy in France.

If it so, Open House.....

[oncemorealoft]

I believe it's a Dassault Flamant.

[Self loading bear]

I thought perhaps the Seibel 204, but that has no dihedral in the centre section. Dassault MD 315 Flamant?

I believe a couple are still airworthy in France.

If it so, Open House.....

Jamesel scores with the Dassault Flamant.
312 or 315, I do not know either.

Open house called.

Oncemorealoft you came in a little bit too late but you are invited to take up the OH.

[dook]

A bit quiet.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x378/friday_8a24d7f6f1bcb5d5f4658a456b5798557e9e58f4.jpg

[Asturias56]

American? Looks like Florida behind............

[dook]

I have no idea where the background is but it is in the USA.

[Asturias56]

retractable u/c eh? so post 1945???

[Auxtank]

Not too long after though - looks like a radial.

[dook]

First flew 1939. Trainer.

[Self loading bear]

Culver Cadet
But tail does not look right?

[dook]

It doesn't look right because it isn't a Culver..

[Self loading bear]

Still no other takers?
Harlow PC-5A

[Auxtank]

That's some vertical stabiliser...must have knicked it from a B-17.

Radio antennae looking like a spindly nose gear strut missing a wheel?

[dook]

The Bear cracks the Harlow PC-5A.

[Auxtank]

Well done Bear.
dook - may we see the photo non-silhouette? - an interesting looking aircraft.

[dook]

As requested...

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/650x328/harlow_pc_5a_copy_a2aaf60c28114c8c4c3144fa01eeeb63b12efe73.j pg

[Self loading bear]

The Harlow photo is on wiki.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlow_PC-5

I think it is New bay in the background.

Now this 2D silhouette:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/295x110/8bdefd39_11b0_4173_825c_5d086f08a44a_ee2af8efeff32c9c569e807 0ad4dc427ed8efc3a.jpeg

[Auxtank]

It looks positively twitchy...
Wouldn't like to stall it - even though it's a Trainer.
Round and round and round you go - having said that - with that rudder authority - you'd probably get out of Dodge in a trice.
Looks like it's related to the T-6 - when the designers came off the whole big tail trip.

If someone had thought up Uber Air Taxi in the 40's - this is what they would have depicted on the advertising garb;
"Arrive relaxed at your destination, in our fully equipped aircraft - ready to satisfy all your air traveller needs, etc..."

Nice. Any still flying anywhere?

[dook]

Probably the same with the L......

I don't know if any Harlows are still airworthy. You can Google as well as I can.

[Auxtank]

Unfortunately I can no longer Google on the Internet.
I can only refresh pages that I have recently visited - including this one.

My PC appears to be - without my authority - to be self-isolating...

[Self loading bear]

I believe there are some search engines who like to put themselves on top as standard opening page.

There are some PCJ-2’s still flying.
Other PJC-2s That Still Exist (http://www.russellw.com/planes/harlow/other_pjc2.htm)

Also contains the story behind the ultra large fin.

[dook]

Now then Bear, tell us about B/A ratios.

[Self loading bear]

Now then Bear, tell us about B/A ratios.

I do not know much about B/A-ratio's.
I am just a deep sunken shipbuilder spinned out of his education.

Please elevate me (and others)

[dook]

Not enough space here to go into pro/anti-spin characteristics and recovery.

I think the challenge is the Lockheed Alcor but I'm not sure exactly which model.

[dook]

Further investigation indicates it is probably a DUO-4 or DUO-6.

[Self loading bear]

Dook scores again!
the Alcor (Olympic) Duo.
This is clearly the Duo-6 as anyone can see due to the difference in air slots in the engine cowling!
remarkable engine set-up. Which forced me to only post a side view.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/402x486/11a3bf90_53cc_465a_af55_afd483a4414f_941597caadbbd6147f957cd f7a832f22052f7045.jpeg

[SpringHeeledJack]

Just a curious question having observed, but not taken part in these threads over the last decade or so, who or what is "Heikkis' " ?? I've looked back, but there never seemed to be any posts with that name. Just curious tis all ;-)

[dook]

Good morning/afternoon/evening all.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x349/tuesday_3712746ae9b8b85c0ae74ff5d48cf07507b8b888.jpg

[Self loading bear]

Just a curious question having observed, but not taken part in these threads over the last decade or so, who or what is "Heikkis' " ?? I've looked back, but there never seemed to be any posts with that name. Just curious tis all ;-)

There is a professor Heikki Kalviainen who has done much on Pattern Recognition and Image Analysis.
But that might be pure coincidence.

[The Baron]

Lake Buccaneer per chance?

[dook]

It's not Lake Buccaneer. Check the tailplane position.

[Steamer Ned]

Re SHJs question (#11700) my post #10830 (https://www.pprune.org/7484262-post10830.html) of 24th Oct 2012 may provide a clue. Ned

[dook]

The challenge was American and only one was built.

[treadigraph]

David Thurston involved?

Referring back to the Harlow, it seemed familiar and I think I saw one at Oshkosh. The name that sprang to mind was incorrect!

[dook]

No involvement by David Thurston.

[dook]

Clues are required I feel. This should help.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x89/clues_f6a3323c03d6a11452b6b6b2c5384113c32cd4bf.jpg

[John Eacott]

Bunyard BA-3X Sportsman


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/452x203/bunyard_sportsman_5714e11ad21deb702ca58ee7da3722a47af9f58d.j pg

[dook]

At last we have a winner.

John Eacott has found the Bunyard BA-3X Sportsman.

All your JE.

[John Eacott]

A self created silhouette; should be easy :hmm:


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1183x867/a2d7c21e_8341_429e_b46f_d7a52aa6daa6_ac2cc1f8145617c38f09ddb d0342872eb2ade63a.jpeg

[dook]

Looks like something from the Mad Max.

[MReyn24050]

I believe it is the Saunders Roe Skeeter Mk6 G-AMTZ fitted out as an air ambulance.

[John Eacott]

I believe it is the Saunders Roe Skeeter Mk6 G-AMTZ fitted out as an air ambulance.

Sure is: you found the original photo :cool:


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1317x1060/s_l1600_5984339917a6455f90fbd0d1118379f887d2da38.jpg

[MReyn24050]

No John I did not find that photograph of the aircraft, but from the cockpit shape and nose wheel I thought it was possibly a skeeter with side litters and then found a side view of the aircraft. I understand the aircraft was fitted with a 200 hp Gipsy Major engine. I also understand the tank on top of the main rotor hub contained HighTest Peroxide for rocket booster system to the main rotor. That must have been a nightmare, good job the Bell turbocharged Sioux came along..

Here is the next:-
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/700x437/sillouette_1_1a798e02fd8ef5e0ec068eb6b39af4d033d4d396.jpg

[Auxtank]

Curtiss Model 54 Tanager?

[Fareastdriver]

I also understand the tank on top of the main rotor hub contained HighTest Peroxide for rocket booster system to the main rotor.

The two blokes in the litters are the pilot and observer when they tried it.

[MReyn24050]

Curtiss Model 54 Tanager?
You have it. You have control.

[Auxtank]

Thanks (again!)

Right, here ya' are then...

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1000x563/dkufhsdbf1_6f82fdc8486eedd64b9c50181869a51744619d03.jpg

[Archer4]

A Piper Lance (PA-32R)

[Auxtank]

A Piper Lance (PA-32R)

Realised I had flipped the image by mistake. Now right way round but no, not a pa-32.

[Quemerford]

Cessna Caravan.

[evansb]

Quest Kodiak.

[Self loading bear]

Found your picture but no description.
Difficult question:
It seems this is a Flight simulator generated picture.
How do we deal with that?


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1280x720/873cae0a_9988_4543_8efd_ba82e90fb082_b7478cebf6596a0cedc43e3 29629c72025f64ceb.jpeg

YouTube Flight simulator

[Auxtank]

It's a 100% synthetic environment and a generated picture - thought I'd post it to see reaction.

How we deal with it is; it's a Cessna Grand Caravan.

So Quemerford has it. Well done!

Quemerford has joystick...

[Quemerford]

OK here goes:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/900x497/z_2fb4322d59c7c1f191bc638cef5d611054459552.jpg

[dook]

The silhouettes are getting better. :ok:

Was this a research aeroplane ?

[dook]

I think this is the Blériot-Zappata 110.

[Quemerford]

Apologies: been away today looking at B-2s.

Dook you have it: the Blériot 110.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1973x1089/bleriot_110_ea029c9140cebe0026e07872d6777556362f316b.jpg

[dook]

Thank you Q - that was a good one.

I have insufficient posts to allow me to post another, so it will have to be OH.

Sorry.

[dook]

I'll try again.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x398/wed_6f7a01168720bd50639aedc22969fa5bdae61067.jpg

[Quemerford]

Looks like a Stampe SV.4.

[dook]

It does indeed but it isn't Belgian.

[Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!]

I don't want to embarrass myself, but I'll say Tiger Moth

[dook]

Then you have embarrassed yourself because it isn't British.

[Quemerford]

Could be a foreign-built Tiger tho (I know it isn't). Just sayin'.....:hmm:

[dook]

…………..

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/300x202/flag_a56b72f2cc2179866eb03983fbcccff9bd4d3b11.jpg

[Quemerford]

I thought you said it wasn't Belgian :E

[dook]

Is everyone in self-isolation ?

[Auxtank]

Feels like it over on Which Aerodrome dook.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/200x150/images_9f2552025301fac6352f77a089f2cd0ab6509694.jpeg

[oldandbald]

So I guess we are in Italy ?

[India Four Two]

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/75x54/screen_shot_2020_03_20_at_06_48_29_14d6455dafbf9e788da00e662 fd85ab74e6f7d5a.png

I'm quarantined so I'll play from a safe distance!

Saiman 200?

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/231x129/screen_shot_2020_03_20_at_06_48_57_d727d781cb1096c0aa2b3bba9 db6683a77c14484.png

[dook]

Quarantine working !

Saiman 200 it is.

Your virus.

[Quemerford]

Quarantine working !

Saiman 200 it is.



A new one on me: it looks even more like a Stampe with its clothes on.

[dook]

It does, until you look at the interplane struts.

[India Four Two]

dook, Thanks. An interesting challenge and surprisingly, it was missing from my favourite reference book "Aircraft and the Air" by Eric Sargent.

No silhouette technology available so Open House.

[dook]

PM for I42.

[India Four Two]

Here’s one that’s more modern.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x370/f812b319_8a49_45af_ab56_e3bcf477e404_3f37d1c0bff2d788abfdb80 1909d37ceb5b49f3d.jpeg

[Quemerford]

Aermacchi AL.60?