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Ridge Runner
27th Apr 2012, 12:02
https://evbdn.eventbrite.com/s3-s3/eventlogos/6759083/openhouse2.jpg

Ridge Runner
27th Apr 2012, 12:02
go on, be a devil!

Lightning Mate
27th Apr 2012, 12:02
Off to lunch - back shortly........

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/bag.jpg

Ridge Runner
27th Apr 2012, 12:06
Strewth, mate! Viewed from above? Is t really deflating of is it supposed to look like that?

Lightning Mate
27th Apr 2012, 12:52
Better than Cessna 172 lookalikes though innit! :E

Viewed from below and front. This was the protype and it's accurately silhouetted - it looked a lot more conventional afterwards.

Ridge Runner
27th Apr 2012, 13:15
Viewed from below and front Really? It would be very asymetric then?

RR

Lightning Mate
27th Apr 2012, 13:28
Not really.

Would you like the original photograph?

Ridge Runner
27th Apr 2012, 13:40
I'd love it!!!

Lightning Mate
27th Apr 2012, 13:44
I'm too soft......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/bag2.jpg

Ridge Runner
27th Apr 2012, 14:00
Ah, so not "Viewed from below and front". Now all is clear!!!! Thanks... RR

Lightning Mate
27th Apr 2012, 14:05
If you look at the perspective of the gondola it's not from behind.

I have to invigilate an exam - back in about an hour.

More clues then, but here's one to be going on with:

hot air.

Ridge Runner
27th Apr 2012, 14:09
From the 1970s? A Multi-coloured gas-filled balloon with a platform open gondola?

Ridge Runner
27th Apr 2012, 14:13
amusig myself ...

http://jencarnes.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/darth-vader_hotairballoon.jpg

Lightning Mate
27th Apr 2012, 14:17
Hooked up to classroom computer.


From the 1970s?

1980s.

Apologies - it was modified from a hot-air balloon.


......platform open gondola

Yes. :ok:

edit: production versions after the prototype were hot air and pressurised.

Lightning Mate
27th Apr 2012, 15:30
Going home - back shortly.

Wannuther clue later?

Ridge Runner
27th Apr 2012, 15:43
Sorry david but an aside ........ I've got to share this find of a truly magnificent aircraft!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRV6bSGjoRY&feature=related

Forget your Fulcrums and Flankers, the Blinder was an extraordinary and wonderfully elegant machine!!!!

Your idea of speed, David?

RR

Ridge Runner
27th Apr 2012, 15:46
Going home - back shortly.


sorry David, balloons are not my idea of fun and I know nothing about them! :(

Lightning Mate
27th Apr 2012, 17:28
Your idea of speed, David?

Sure is, but it could only sprint for a short period.

I am sorry you don't like balloons - I dont care for high-wing old monoplanes either.

If you are sticking around I'll give you a juicy clue. :)

SincoTC
28th Apr 2012, 04:48
Morning LM :),

Sorry, out all day yesterday!

modified from a hot-air balloon

Ah so Glasshopper!!

Dunno much about strange balloons, but Gogglefucious says modified hot air balloon is a rare photograph of the prototype (with original envelope) of Beijing University of Aeronautics & Astronautics "Bee-6"

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 08:25
Good morning TC. :)

Sorry, out all day yesterday!

Don't apologise Glasshopper.

The prototype Bee-6 it is mate - your thread. :D

做得好

SincoTC
28th Apr 2012, 09:04
Thanks David,

Surprised this doesn't appear to be on Mel's list!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf232.jpg

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 09:46
Playground open. :ok:

Pushers?

SincoTC
28th Apr 2012, 09:53
They are indeed pushers

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 10:25
Am I right to be looking for single-engine?

SincoTC
28th Apr 2012, 10:32
Yes, a 60 HP engine by the same manufacturer as the airframe

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 10:34
Then possibly the Wright Model H.

SincoTC
28th Apr 2012, 10:42
Very similar, (W)right manufacturer, but not the Model H, this one also had a nickname!

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 10:45
The F then - Tin Cow. :)

SincoTC
28th Apr 2012, 10:47
Wright on mate; the Wright Model F Tin Cow :D

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TinCow.jpg

Lightning Mate has control :ok:

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 10:49
Thanks TC.

Are you at work ?

Shall we stay old ? (the aeroplanes I mean.....)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/sat-3.jpg

SincoTC
28th Apr 2012, 10:52
Just leaving, had an early start, back on-line in about and hour :)

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 10:54
I have to go for an hour as well.

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 13:29
back on-line in about and hour http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Methinks you have lost computerybob lekrickery..........

Noyade
28th Apr 2012, 13:31
You're slipping mate. :)

Right at the bottom...

http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/459476-heikkis-silhouette-challenge-396.html

The Avro 558 from earlier. Best make it open house. Cheers. :ok:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8256/avro5581.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/avro5581.jpg/)

(PS : Thanks for the bottle of Red earlier. :ok:)

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 13:33
Evening Mate. :)

Bugger - I did look.............:\

Throw sumfin' up mate - anything!

Glad you liked the red.

Noyade
28th Apr 2012, 13:39
Do you eat those Cornish pasty things? In all the papers here, they're gonna get expensive?
(Just meat and veg in pastry folded over and baked?)

Sounds like the barbecued chicken saga when they bought in the GST here.

Sorry, heading to bed now. :zzz:

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 13:41
Do you eat Cornish pasty things?

Yep - I'm half Cornish and was brought up on them.

Wanna know the history?

Noyade
28th Apr 2012, 13:42
Sure. I got a few minutes. :)

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 13:46
My mother was good at them, and her mother before that.

Originally conceived for Cornish tin miners who spent the day underground.

The real thing is in two halves sepaarted by pastry. One half is savoury and the other half if for second course ie a pudding/sweet.

The savoury should be beef, potato, and chopped onion.

The sweet was something like an apple pie or such.

Noyade
28th Apr 2012, 13:46
Thanks for the history. :ok:
We have pasties here, which are mince and mixed vegies. But they're nowhere near as popular as meat pies.

Actually, I have this....

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7008/img602a.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/i/img602a.jpg/)

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 13:50
Bugger - for a second I though it was a 125.

Noyade
28th Apr 2012, 13:56
Bugger - for a second I though it was a 125. Well, I'm as bad as you. Just looked at the Mel's Massive List (MML) and looks like we has this in August 2011...

Not British.

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 14:00
:p:p:p:p......

Noyade
28th Apr 2012, 14:01
Stop laughing. :suspect:

Photo...

(Or would you prefer to return to Open House?)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2726/img608w.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/img608w.jpg/)

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 14:11
Your call mate.

Is this an early bizjet or personal jet?

I assume a Yank.

evansb
28th Apr 2012, 14:17
FoxJet ST600-S ?

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 14:18
Morning Canada.........:p

Noyade
28th Apr 2012, 14:18
Early Bizjet, circa 1977. Above is a mock-up.

Fuel costs were touted as being as low as 9 cents a mile in 1977, compared to 50 cents a mile or higher for contemporary aircraft.

Noyade
28th Apr 2012, 14:20
FoxJet ST600

That's him! Gold to Canada. :ok:
Your control Brian.

Night!

evansb
28th Apr 2012, 14:38
Thanks mate! Sorry, I don't have a silhouette ready, but as this is not a complete photo and is an oblique view, I'll post it anyway:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Grocery_buggy_wheels.jpg

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 14:46
Is that the O'Neill Magnum ?

evansb
28th Apr 2012, 14:55
Spot on Sir David.:ok: The Magnum Bushplane, powered by a Ford 351 cu. in. V-8 automobile engine. I don't know how practical (or strong) that undercarriage would be in the "bush" however... Your control.

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 15:05
I'm not sure either mate. The main gears transmit weight stresses through a 90 degree bend, which ain't the best way of doing things.

In addition the initial landing loads would have been taken by the rear system only.

Anyway, onwards and upwards and good to see you. :)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/sat2.jpg

evansb
28th Apr 2012, 15:20
Speaking of vertical loads and possible spinal compression, is this a basic trainer known as the General Aircraft GAL.45 Owlet ?
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/606/317275848789cba38950b.jpg

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 15:21
Smartass!!

Over to you again. :ok:

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 15:30
Speaking of vertical loads and possible spinal compression

Used this in 1981 - no injuries at all....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/theseat.jpg

evansb
28th Apr 2012, 15:34
Thank you LM. I guess its better than being a dumbass. Here is something gentler in nature:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/YES_IT_IS_A_REAL_AIRCRAFT.jpg

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 15:41
That has to be the QinetiQ Zephyr surely.

evansb
28th Apr 2012, 15:43
LM, you are on course to be an ace today! Spot on:ok: The U.K. developed Zephyr has set a few records. Your turn.

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 15:50
I applied for a job with QinetiQ a few years ago and was rejected on the grounds that I was over-qualified!!!!!!!!!!!

Standby mate.......

Here you go................

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/sat3.jpg

Lightning Mate
28th Apr 2012, 16:00
WTFO TCs' whereabouts..................??

Lightning Mate
29th Apr 2012, 12:26
:eek::eek:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/playground.jpg

skytrain10
29th Apr 2012, 14:17
Afternoon David...looks like a Breda Ba.39 in one of its guises?

Lightning Mate
29th Apr 2012, 14:29
That is so so close Mate.

Care to go down a couple of numbers?

evansb
29th Apr 2012, 14:35
Breda Ba.33S ?

Lightning Mate
29th Apr 2012, 14:49
I'll give that to either of you.

It is in fact the S version.

Fight it out - first to post is accepted , but evansb is exact. :ok:

skytrain10
29th Apr 2012, 14:54
You should have it Bri....I found this photo entitled Ba.39, but opening up the article showed that it was incorrectly identified, and was in fact the Ba.33S.
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4300/hoha.jpg

Lightning Mate
29th Apr 2012, 14:59
I watch with interest............

Lightning Mate
29th Apr 2012, 15:10
It looks like skytrain has awarded you the win Bri.

evansb has control.

evansb
29th Apr 2012, 15:27
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120429.jpg

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120429.jpg)

Lightning Mate
29th Apr 2012, 16:01
French.........?

evansb
29th Apr 2012, 16:07
Not French.

Lightning Mate
29th Apr 2012, 16:11
Italian.........?

evansb
29th Apr 2012, 18:06
Not Italian. Asian.

skytrain10
29th Apr 2012, 18:36
Built as a seaplane Brian, or a modification of a landplane? Japanese?

evansb
29th Apr 2012, 19:10
Not Japanese. Purpose was a seaplane.

skytrain10
29th Apr 2012, 19:18
Keep looking at the Feiling-1 from China. Doesn't look right but is it Chinese?

evansb
29th Apr 2012, 19:20
Not Chinese. Think off-shore. A 1958 project to be powered by a Continental O-470.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120429a.jpg

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 06:13
Air ambulance?

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 09:45
Morning, I'm thinking this may be an I.S.T project from the Philippines? Cannot find any reference to a floatplane, but if their numbering is sequential then is it the I.S.T L-18 (or XL-18)?

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 10:54
:eek:..........

evansb
30th Apr 2012, 12:31
It is the I.S.T L-21S Flying Vinta. OPEN HOUSE

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 12:44
I think we should offer that to skytrain personally.

He was on a fairly accurate track.

evansb
30th Apr 2012, 13:04
Okay. skytrain has control.

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 13:06
Thanks Bri. :ok:

Mind you, he's disappeared now. :uhoh:

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 13:42
I'm here:)

Nice challenge Brian:ok:. Last known IST aircraft I could find was the L-17, so searched for L-18, 19 and 20 without any joy. Didn't go as far as 21:(

Here's the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/e11da5d0.jpg

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 13:47
UAV .......?

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 13:52
UAV Not a UAV mate. And thanks for your support on Brian's challenge:ok:

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 13:54
I only thought it right.

Stealth job then?

Ridge Runner
30th Apr 2012, 13:58
The big Boeing, mate???? incorrectly called the 797?

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/flying-wing-structure.gif

Ridge Runner
30th Apr 2012, 14:00
er maybe not! :(

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 14:08
Stealth job then? Not designed as a stealthy machine.

The big Boeing, mate???? incorrectly called the 797? Not that.

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 14:12
Do the wings move?

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 14:24
Methinks it's a blended wing lifting body.

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 14:36
Methinks it's a blended wing lifting body. Blended wing, yes, but not described as a lifting body.

Do the wings move? No

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 15:16
A passenger aircraft?

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 15:20
A passenger aircraft? Well it is certainly designed to carry people, but it's a light aircraft, not an airliner.

evansb
30th Apr 2012, 15:24
Is it the proposed X-48 BWB ?

Ridge Runner
30th Apr 2012, 15:30
Is it a microlight, Ken, designed to look like a blended wing in planform?

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 15:35
Is it the proposed X-48 BWB ? Not the X-48.

Is it a microlight, Ken Not a microlight, but you are on the right track - a homebuild.

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 15:45
Quick shot before home.

Is it called the Atlantica?

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 15:47
Is it called the Atlantica? A good quick shot mate - yes it is the Atlantica, from Composite Aircraft. Well done:D

Some photo's of the prototype
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/9edc7a40.jpg

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/41ac876f.jpg

They are also proposing a mini-jet option!

LM has control

Ridge Runner
30th Apr 2012, 16:15
Ah ha .... nice one Ken and David!!!!

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 16:29
Glad you liked it....found it whilst looking for some more unusual types.

I tried to reply to David as quickly as I could but he went offline as I posted so guess we'll wait for him to look in when he gets home.

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 16:30
Good grief! :eek:

I think we were all looking at mil stuff, and I don't think me or anyone else would have got there without the clues.

We haven't had one of these for a while:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/glidinnit.jpg

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 16:46
I think we were all looking at mil stuff, and I don't think me or anyone else would have got there without the clues. Well I figured it was worth keeping things moving along. It actually went as I expected.....since the picture I used for the silhouette was taken well forward of the aircraft it created almost perfectly the planform for the X-48 or "797", whereas in reality the sweep angle on the Atlantica is much greater:)

Now yours....German or Polish....?

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 17:12
taken well forward of the aircraft it created almost perfectly the planform for
the X-48 or "797

bar steward.....

Challenge - neither mate.

skytrain10
30th Apr 2012, 20:40
Struggling with this....the wings look odd, starboard appears to taper, but the port not? Also there seems to be no strut on the port wing - or is what looks like a strut something else?

American David...possibly the Franklin PS-2?

Edit to say, on closer inspection, no.

Lightning Mate
30th Apr 2012, 22:27
The wing struts attach to the bottom of the fuselage, so the apparent lack of them on the left wing is down to perspective.

The illustration is of a model, but you are in the right country.

1929, and as of last year two were still on the registry.

Karlark
1st May 2012, 03:40
All the clues point to...

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/Cadet-II-Box.jpg

edit; open house if correct :ok:

Lightning Mate
1st May 2012, 05:54
Good shooting mate. :D

Karlark has declared Open House.

skytrain10
1st May 2012, 08:21
Nice call Karl....so much for my internet glider source.....3,000 odd gliders but doesn't list that one:( Good challenge David.

Ridge Runner
1st May 2012, 08:24
OK, not a silhouette as such but ....

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/77d90989.jpg

skytrain10
1st May 2012, 08:45
No obvious signs of propulsion, so another glider - or maybe an ornithopter?

Ridge Runner
1st May 2012, 09:02
Sorry Ken, I meant to say that the image shows the machine without its 7.5hp motor!!!!! RR

MReyn24050
1st May 2012, 11:43
Updated List of challenges can be found in the above sticky.

Ridge Runner
1st May 2012, 12:04
Excellent! Thanks Mel!

Lightning Mate
1st May 2012, 15:59
Evening Martin. :)

Perhaps a clue is in order here.

Ridge Runner
1st May 2012, 16:03
Ah.... life!!

Yep....

It was built in 1912 and had a bicycle seat for the pilot. As I said before, it had a 7.5hp engine. Needless to say it couldn't take off!!!!

RR

Ridge Runner
1st May 2012, 16:05
I'll speed it up a bit more as it is past five o'clock!!! The image on the net is from Shavrov! :)

skytrain10
1st May 2012, 16:15
Afternoon Martin, the Dyakov monoplane?

Ridge Runner
1st May 2012, 16:19
Ah ha.... that's the one, Ken!!! You have Shavrov?

Skytrain10 has CONTROL

skytrain10
1st May 2012, 16:25
You have Shavrov? I found it on a website I've had bookmarked for a long time which has a link to Shavrov. I had assumed it was probably Russian by the somewhat touched up image. Just not had the time to look properly today.

Love to get hold of his books - even if they are in Russian!

Not had a chance to prepare anything so will have to be Open House.

Lightning Mate
1st May 2012, 16:30
Where can I find the image please?

Karlark
1st May 2012, 16:44
Evening LM, try Googling the "Russian Aviation Museum".

Meanwhile, here's something quick for the open house:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/36-1.jpg

Lightning Mate
1st May 2012, 16:44
Evening LM, try Googling the "Russian Aviation Museum".

Thanks mate. :ok:

Lightning Mate
1st May 2012, 16:51
Is it a PTO-4?

Either that or a Miles Magister.

Karlark
1st May 2012, 16:57
Yes it is the Estonian PTO-4 (Voldemar Post, Richard Tooma and Otto Org)! :ok: Your control.

If the Russian aircraft museum didn't get you there, try googling this:

Monoplane by G.A.Diakov

Lightning Mate
1st May 2012, 16:58
Ah so Glasshopper - that got me there. :ok:

Sorry - missed the fact that I have control.

Lightning Mate
1st May 2012, 17:04
Found this in my travels.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/bikewheel.jpg

skytrain10
1st May 2012, 20:33
Looks like the DOWA 81. But haven't we had it before?

Edit, closing down now, so assuming correct, Open House

Lightning Mate
1st May 2012, 22:04
Looks like the DOWA 81. But haven't we had it before?

Well, it certainly is, but I didn't NB it.

Open House.

Ridge Runner
2nd May 2012, 12:17
I can't take the silence any longer .....

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/4af3bf70.jpg

Lightning Mate
2nd May 2012, 13:55
'Artnoon Martin.

It appears to be unmanned.

Does it really have four wheels or is it some kind of launch dolly?

Ridge Runner
2nd May 2012, 13:57
Hi David. It flies with the u/c attached! :)

Edit: yes, un-manned

Lightning Mate
2nd May 2012, 14:28
Looking at the upswept tail booms and it's attitude, I imagine it's designed as a rough terrain STOL.

Lightning Mate
2nd May 2012, 14:31
Unless, of course, it's the Freewing Unmanned Systems LLC Scorpion.

Ridge Runner
2nd May 2012, 14:48
That's the one, David

You have CONTROL

Lightning Mate
2nd May 2012, 15:06
Thanks Martin.

I'm going home in fifteen minutes and will check in again from there.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/quick.jpg

Ridge Runner
2nd May 2012, 15:18
A ruskie I think but I can't remember .... C.R.A.F.T.!

Lightning Mate
2nd May 2012, 15:19
Ruskie? Niet.

Ridge Runner
2nd May 2012, 15:48
Strangely I thought not! A contender for a fast biz jet? a yank???

Lightning Mate
2nd May 2012, 15:55
Not an American bizjet either mate.

Ridge Runner
2nd May 2012, 16:02
b*gger, bu**er and bug**r.. I know it but ..... :(

Lightning Mate
2nd May 2012, 16:05
Go and get a stiff drink and calm down - it's only a commercial. :}

skytrain10
2nd May 2012, 16:14
Avro Canada SST design?

Edit to say going offline now for a few hours, so will have to be Open House if correct.

Ridge Runner
2nd May 2012, 16:24
That's the jobby! Well done Ken!!!!! ... i must go and sob... :(

skytrain10
2nd May 2012, 16:25
It rang a bell with me too....but I remembered where I'd seen it:)

Lightning Mate
2nd May 2012, 16:50
Avro Canada SST design?

Edit to say going offline now for a few hours,
so will have to be Open House if correct.

It's the Avro Canada STAT - Supersonic Trans Atlantic Transport feasibility study.

I really should refuse the OH since "a few hours" might be two or three.

However, OH has been declared and thus it is, but I think we should give skytrain a chance when he can get back.

In the meantime it's free for anyone.

skytrain10
2nd May 2012, 22:31
Thanks David...my few hours lasted a little longer than planned:(

Well no takers, so here's one for the night shift:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/731551ee.jpg

Closing down soon, so usual rules apply:ok:

evansb
2nd May 2012, 22:43
Windecker Eagle ?

skytrain10
2nd May 2012, 22:46
Not the Eagle.

evansb
3rd May 2012, 01:47
Bellanca Skyrocket II ?

I'm off to sleep, so if it is correct, I'll declare an open house.

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 07:45
Morning. Depending on where you look its either the Bellanca Skyrocket II or the AviaBellanca Skyrocket III. Saw it at Oshkosh where it was promoted as the latter, but the US register shows it as the former!

Anyway, good call Brian:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/a328840f.jpg

evansb has declared Open House

Ridge Runner
3rd May 2012, 08:42
Her you go... easy ....

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/59708a73.jpg

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 08:48
Morning Martin. :)

I've seen that - it's a yank innit.

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 08:51
Stampe & Vertognen SV.10?

Ridge Runner
3rd May 2012, 09:03
Good morning David .. sorry, no!

Yes, Ken, the Stampe! You have control!

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 09:08
Thanks Martin.

Next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/4743e0b2.jpg

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 09:16
G'day gents. :)

Internet speed is dying (64kbs?) and it's taking about 40 seconds to refresh a page. :(

Now that looks American Ken?

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 09:19
Evening Graeme

Internet speed is dying (64kbs?) and it's taking about 40 seconds to refresh a page Sounds like living in Wales - I get used to that!

Tis' indeed Amercan:ok:

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 09:22
(Psst...Ken. I'm running outta time. AQ = Miles M.69 Marathon II....?)

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 09:28
Curtiss?......

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 09:56
(Psst...Ken. I'm running outta time. AQ = Miles M.69 Marathon II....?):ok:

The challenge is not a Curtiss

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 10:05
Morning Ken.

A Burgess?

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 10:07
Morning David...not a Burgess mate.

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 10:54
To help you along....pre WWI.

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 11:04
Anything to do with the Manhattan Aeroplane Company ?

Or maybe Paterson-Francis.....

Ridge Runner
3rd May 2012, 11:10
Miles M.69 Marathon II....?)

yes, Graeme!

Edit: er, no ..... Handley page HPR1 Marathon, I think, with the mambas!

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 11:14
David, not Manhatten, but it is a Patterson-Francis design:ok:

The aircraft is in fact the Patterson-Francis Flying Boat from 1913.

Your control

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 11:17
Thanks mate.

Wossa all this Handley Page stuff abaht??

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 11:20
Edit: er, no ..... Handley page HPR1 MarathonI see AQ have recorded it as the Handley Page M.69 Marathon!! Still they appear to have accepted Miles as an alternative answer :)
Wossa all this Handley Page stuff abaht?? Aviaquiz!

Ridge Runner
3rd May 2012, 11:26
I see they went for the M.69 but HPR1 was equally valid!!!! :( The next is easy peasy!!! RR

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 11:28
Anyone interested in a new SC challenge?

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 11:32
Anyone interested in a new SC challenge? Yes mate. :ok:

The next is easy peasy!!! RR Charger?

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 11:34
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/notAQ.jpg

Ridge Runner
3rd May 2012, 11:35
a scandihooligan, David?

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 11:36
Nope.......

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 11:36
I'm going with French...?

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 11:38
:ok:.........

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 11:39
The Aubert PA-204 Cigale-Major Cabin Monoplane....?

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 11:41
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/juice-1.jpg

It's worked again!!

All yours mate. :ok:

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 11:53
Thanks David.

I can't get Mel's Massive List to load. Oh well, here goes...

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/240/img623s.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/img623s.jpg/)

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 11:58
B17 or 29.......?

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 12:03
Not from Boeing mate.

British.

No.7 Squadron. :ok:

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 12:04
They flew Stirlings.

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 12:09
Stirling it is. :ok:

Back to you.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3623/img624k.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/img624k.jpg/)

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 12:15
Get yer corkscrew......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/bighangar.jpg

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 12:18
British?....

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 12:20
Not this time. :)

edit: European....

VX275
3rd May 2012, 12:32
That's a Junkers shaped fin and rudder

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 12:33
No it ain't mate.

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 12:41
German?
Those sheds look very modern. Is this a museum piece with sepia applied to 'age' it?

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 12:45
Not German.

It's an original photograph and the hangars are not modern.

I have sepia tinted it to make it more attractive.

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 12:50
Had to break off for a while there....moving quickly today:ok:

An Aeronca C3 look-a-like, with a different tail. There were a few companies manufacturing similar looking machines in the US, but other than the UK build version I can't think of any European examples. Any connection with Aeronca?

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 12:52
No connection with Aeronca mate.

Nail the country and it will be easy. :)

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 12:59
Wanna car photo as a clue?

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 13:03
Sure........

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 13:07
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/car.jpg

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 13:12
Polish?......

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 13:14
:ok:.........

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 13:21
The RWD-2...?

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 13:22
The corkscrew worked!!

Back to you mate. :ok:

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 13:25
Thanks mate, but I'm heading to bed. You enjoy the rest of your afternoon/evening. :ok:

Cheers.

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 13:26
Sleep well.

Ridge Runner
3rd May 2012, 13:31
So was that an OH?

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 13:33
It is I assume, just as I assume you will be less than a minute............

Ridge Runner
3rd May 2012, 14:20
Not me, I have nothing :(

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 14:22
Oh dear!

skytrain has gone too, leaving just you and I.

Wanna one to be going on with?

Ridge Runner
3rd May 2012, 14:30
YEP! .... :)

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 14:37
Here you go then.......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/purple.jpg

Ridge Runner
3rd May 2012, 14:40
oo er .. a plastic plane! :(

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 14:43
...composite monocoque....

...a plane is what a carpenter uses....

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 15:21
Going home - light off.

Back soon.

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 17:25
Good morning Brian. :)

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2012, 19:54
It's now 2052 Prune time and there is nobody around.

I therfore wish you all goodnight /afternoon / morning.

LM

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 22:07
Evening David. Looks like the Funk FK-14 Polaris?

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 22:07
European?......

Edit. Funking hell Ken, where did you spring from? :)

Does look like a Funk...

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/103/75831499.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/i/75831499.jpg/)

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 22:18
Morning mate. Looked in earlier this evening but work then took over so never got the opportunity to pay this one much attention. I knew it reminded me of something but just couldn't place it....then it came to me. Unfortunately away at present so no access to certain magazines, which I'm sure it's in:)

Edit to say, no spats on the main wheels, which is odd - all those I've seen photos of have spats on all 3. I see its marketed in the US as the Cirrus Sport.

As David has closed down I'm going to call it a night myself now, so I'll say good night. David, assuming correct please make it Open House as I have a pretty full day tomorrow.

Noyade
3rd May 2012, 22:30
The Funk above has tapered leading edges on the outer wing, while David's doesn't. Is that significant?

Night mate. :ok:

skytrain10
3rd May 2012, 22:34
The Funk above has tapered wing-tips, while David's doesn't. Is that significant? Do a search for OO-G74....straight wings and no main gear spats:ok:

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 05:50
Good morning/evening.

After all the previous discussion I am happy to announce that it is indeed the B&F Fk14 Polaris, so nicely done skytrain. :D

However, an Open House has been called, so let's hope that Noyade will be home from work soon and post something.

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 06:46
straight wings and no main gear spats

Here's the original photograph which I used:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/FK-14.jpg

skytrain10
4th May 2012, 09:44
Thanks David:ok:

Been too quiet too long. An easy one if anyone is out there:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/ff23daad.jpg

Ridge Runner
4th May 2012, 09:55
Morning!

a mod of another more well known type??

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 09:58
Navajo or Chieftain?

edit: Navajo Panther ?

skytrain10
4th May 2012, 10:18
Morning Martin...yes a mod of a very well known aircraft.

Navajo Panther ? That'll be the one mate:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/2d3babe1.jpg

LM has control

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 10:23
Thanks mate - that's got the day off to a good start.

Let's continue:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/friday-5.jpg

Ridge Runner
4th May 2012, 10:27
French????

skytrain10
4th May 2012, 10:29
Hi David. The Treadwell Alley Cat?

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 10:29
Not French.

Hi David. The Treadwell Alley Cat?

Morning Ken. :D

Your turn again.

Ridge Runner
4th May 2012, 10:31
Nice one! It got me fooled!

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 10:35
I thought it might last a bit longer though. :{

skytrain10
4th May 2012, 10:38
Cheers David....remembered it from another search...looked like a baby crop sprayer.

Next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/e698a6f9.jpg

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 10:46
It's homebuilt and I have found it.

Is it the Sea Eagle ?

Ridge Runner
4th May 2012, 10:50
Blimey Ken, you are slipping! :)

skytrain10
4th May 2012, 10:56
Moving fast today! Yes, it's the Starke Sea Eagle from Australia.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/72a36b73.jpg

Back to you David:ok:

(like David with his previous challenge, I thought this one would have lasted a little longer!)

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 11:01
Blimey Ken, you are slipping!

So are you mate - that's three already this morning. :E

New balls please.......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/friagain-1.jpg

edit: standby please - there's a small error on that silhouette, not that it will make any difference.

edit 2 : error removed

skytrain10
4th May 2012, 11:20
Is it the Saul Triad 1000?

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 11:25
19 minutes this time!!!!:mad::mad:

Back to you again.

Sharpen up RR. :E

Ridge Runner
4th May 2012, 11:31
I've been out topping up the car! 139.9 here....

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 11:34
Mine only takes 30 litres - lasts over three weeks.

Looks like Ken is wearing a short sleeved shirt........

Ridge Runner
4th May 2012, 11:43
Yeh, yeh, yeh ..... :)

skytrain10
4th May 2012, 11:45
Apologies for the delay - got interupted by work!

Next:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/52db21a0.jpg

Edit...just corrected minor error on port u/c leg.

skytrain10
4th May 2012, 11:47
I've been out topping up the car! 139.9 here.... I'll stick to Welsh petrol....even the M4 services I use don't charge that much!

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 11:48
Twin Comanche ?

skytrain10
4th May 2012, 11:50
Twin Comanche ? Not a Twin Com David

Close though:)

Ridge Runner
4th May 2012, 12:07
Piper based, though? It reminders me of a Seneca but the fin/rudder are not right. RR

I'll stick to Welsh petrol....even the M4 services I use don't charge that much!

And that's cheap around these parts!! Normally its up at 145.9plus!!

Lightning Mate
4th May 2012, 12:08
Looking at the fin, Chieftain ?

er no.

skytrain10
4th May 2012, 12:10
And that's cheap around these parts!! Normally its up at 145.9plus!! Blimey...the most I have paid is 138.9....M4 services near Port Talbot is 137.9:)

Not a Chieftain, nor a Seneca....but it is a Piper:ok:

Edit: have just corrected error on port u/c leg on silhouette.