Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[RegDep]

But you are not talking about Fairchild-Dornier 728, are you Skytrain?

[skytrain10]

Guys, going out now so if someone identifies it and 2 of you are confident the answer is correct then please carry on with the next challenge.

Edit, Reg, no, not the Fairchild-Dornier 728.

[Ridge Runner]

the ACCA???? Advanced Composite Cargo Aircraft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Composite_Cargo_Aircraft) - a Dornier 328J with its mid/aft fuselage and empennage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empennage) replaced with advanced composite materials. The ACCA is a Lockheed Martin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin) demonstrator to advance composite usage on next-generation tactical air mobility transports for the US Air Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Air_Force) Research Laboratory.

[SincoTC]

Morning Guys,

Short on time lately and just grabbing a quick coffee.

is it the Lockheed Martin X-55 Advanced Composite Cargo Aircraft (ACCA) ??

Lockheed Martin X-55 Advanced Composite Cargo Aircraft (ACCA) - Kaskus - The Largest Indonesian Community (http://www.kaskus.us/showthread.php?t=5899457)

Edit: Pipped to it I see :D!! OK, so count me as one vote to go ahead :) Catchya later if possible!!

[RegDep]

If you need another (independent :8) opinion, I'll second TC and this should go to RR :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks boys. I'm afraid it has to be OPEN HOUSE though :(

[Ridge Runner]

No takers? Well, have a go at this....

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune140911A.jpg

[skwinty]

NU-25 Kunang ?

[Ridge Runner]

No mate, not that

[skwinty]

Druine D.31 Turbulent?

[Ridge Runner]

Not that either!!!

[Ridge Runner]

Clue 1: 65hp Conti
Clue 2: British

RR

[skytrain10]

Afternoon. Initial though was a Rollason Condor....but not aware of any open cockpit variants. A conversion Martin?

[Ridge Runner]

Blimey Ken, and I thought I'd slip it in while you were sunning yourself! :) Not a Condor and not a conversion. RR

[Ridge Runner]

The fact that it is wooden should be a clue :E

[skwinty]

No. 10712. Shield Xyla?

[Ridge Runner]

Skwinty has it!!!! Xyla being Greek for wood!!!!! ;)

Shield Xyla (http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions//SmithRon/10712.htm)

[skwinty]

Thanks Ridge Runner,

I declare OPEN HOUSE.:ok:

[Noyade]

:)

http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/332082-silhouette-challenge-982.html

[RegDep]

Well, at least Skwinty got it it with less clues than I at the time :*.

Good afternoon Graeme.

[Ridge Runner]

http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Silhouette challenge (http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/332082-silhouette-challenge-982.html)


Oh poo... sorry ... done in haste!

RR

[RegDep]

A day without a challenge is worse than a rainy day…

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/homecopy-1.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

An Evans machine, Reg???

[RegDep]

Not Evans, RR. Closer to evansb :8.

[Ridge Runner]

VW engine?

[RegDep]

No RR. 22 - 25 hp, Hirth or Zenoah.

[Ridge Runner]

a Eureka moment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Ameri-Cana Eureka!!!

OPEN HOUSE if correct

[RegDep]

Eureka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's correct! Eureka from Ameri-Cana Ultralights in Alberta.

Over to you :D

Open House, as requested.

[skwinty]

Thanks RR.
Try this one..


http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/skwinty1.jpg

[Spit161]

Max Holste Broussard ?

[skwinty]

This one is not French.:(

[Ridge Runner]

what are you hiding above the fuselage? A central fin? I'd say those boots look Russian or eastern/central European?

[skwinty]

Nothing hidden, WYSIWYG.

The boots may be Russian or eastern/central European, but not the aircraft.;)

[Ridge Runner]

triple fin/rudder?

[skwinty]

Twin not triple.

[Ridge Runner]

OK, so what is the black blob above the fuselage covering?

[Ridge Runner]

ta da !!!
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2011-8/15/151303.jpg

[skytrain10]

Hi skwinty....would this be the Chrislea Skyjeep with its back open?

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Skwinty,

I posted AFTER Ken. Its just Pprune that timed it wrong.

RR

[skwinty]

skytrain10 has control:D

[skwinty]

Damn, RR why didn't you type the name in your post.:confused:

[skytrain10]

Thanks skwinty.....believe it or not it was the open cabin door that gave it away!
Despite the timing of RR's post it did not appear until after I had posted my answer (honestly!).

Please bear with me as have only just got in...will have one prepped in 15 mins give or take.

[skytrain10]

Looks like the pprune clock probs have returned!

Here's the next challenge:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/5ea8551c.jpg

[irishair2001]

:ok:hello skytrain , is it the Valmet Leko-70 Vinka

[skytrain10]

Hi irishair, not the Leko-70.
First clue, European homebuild from the 1970's.

[Spit161]

My first thought was a Firefly, but it can't be..

cheers,
Jake.

[skytrain10]

Morning....not a Firefly Jake, but you're in the right country:ok:

[SincoTC]

Morning Ken,

Just a quick stab before going back to work; is it the Coates Swalesong ?

Open House please if correct.

[Noyade]

Morning!

I did not jump the gun!

I posted this after Ken confirmed! :ooh:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6005/img011jp.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/img011jp.jpg/)

[Spit161]

Noyande - C47?

[skytrain10]

Morning Trevor
Yes, it is the Coates Swalesong...well done:ok:.
First flown in 1973, just 2 aircraft built; G-AYDV (below) is still in existance. The other one (G-BAAH) cancelled back in 1991.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/0a52cfdc.jpg

SincoTC has declared Open House.

[Noyade]

Noyande - C47?


G'day, No mate.

[Noyade]

I was thinking the other day....when we turn perfectly good illustrations into black, should glass/perspex areas such as the cockpit, observation domes, windshields, passenger windows, etc...remain white?

Edit. Thanks Reg! It's all in the wrist! :ok:

Edit 2. Out of sequence....again...

[skytrain10]

Hi Graeme....Bloch MB.220?

[Noyade]

Hi Graeme....Bloch MB.220?


Yes mate....short and sweet. :ok:

Your control.

Edit. Sydney Harbour Bridge must be very heavy...always drops below the last post!

[RegDep]

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/forGraeme.jpg

[Noyade]

Trying to go under the bridge...here goes...

Edit. Yes!

Your control Ken! :) See above the bridge!

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme....here's an aircraft that could easily go under the bridge:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/7fa13fc4.jpg

[skytrain10]

I was thinking the other day....when we turn perfectly good illustrations into black, should glass/perspex areas such as the cockpit, observation domes, windshields, passenger windows, etc...remain white?
Graeme, my view is that its down to the individual. Traditional 3-views from Observers' books etc show all the features you mention, but arguably these are not true silhouette's, which technically should only show the outline, not the the detail.

[Noyade]

Immediate thought was a Gotha Go 145.....but no.


...remain white?


The reason I asked is the Bloch had a lot of windows and I thought should I try and leave them...but too hard.

[Noyade]

Czech?............

[skytrain10]

Not the Gotha Graeme, and not a German machine.

Edit to say, not Czech either.

[Noyade]

European?...........

[skytrain10]

It is European Graeme.

[Noyade]

The Romanian SET.10....?

Edit....No.

Enjoy your day mate! I'll keep looking....:ok:

[skytrain10]

Not the SET.10.

Will be offline for next few hours. If someone guesses and 2 of you agree then happy for you to proceed to the next challenge.

[skytrain10]

All very quiet so clue time.....its a British design, evolved from an aircraft that has been the subject of a previous challenge.

[RegDep]

Fairey Fleetwing

[skytrain10]

I see the likeness Reg, but not a Fairey design.

[RegDep]

A Hawker, then? Or Avro?

[skytrain10]

Neither of those Reg. I think you need to look at this challenge from a different perspective. This is a 1970's design!!

[RegDep]

WHHHAAAAT!!?!

[skytrain10]

WHHHAAAAT!!?!
Exactly....it was BASED on a 1930's design....that we have had before!

[RegDep]

Homebuilt?

[skytrain10]

Homebuilt?
Yes:ok:
And the aircraft on which it was based was also offered as a homebuild...and STILL IS!!

[RegDep]

Good grief.

[skytrain10]

I should point out that as far as I can see only 2 of the challenge aircraft were ever built, of which one remains.

[skwinty]

Fisher Flying Products Celebrity?

[skytrain10]

This needs to go tonight guys as I will be travelling for the next 2 days:

So to help you, here is the original with the registration deleted:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/f7e4586a.jpg

[skytrain10]

Hi skwinty.....not from Fisher.

[RegDep]

Oh that one? Turner Hot Two, G-BLPB.

Open house, as I will be off for a week.

[SincoTC]

Haven't got time to stop and play now, but I was wondering if it could be the Isaacs Fury ??

Edit, wasn't really convinced on that as the proportions didn't tally too well, but I see Reg has found it :D

Have a good weekend guys :ok:

[skwinty]

My eye's are hurting, keep coming up with Great Lakes, but it's not.

Good night and enjoy the weekend:ok:

[skytrain10]

As you say skwinty, it's not from Great Lakes.

Good night and have a good weekend :ok:



EDIT: Peril's of the pprune clock...Reg, your 2146 post has only just come up....yes, well done, it is the Turner TSW-2, which was adapted from the Currie Wot:ok:. Enjoy your break Reg.

RegDep has declared Open House

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme, Evening Trevor

Seems to be having pprune clock problems again as Trevor's 2146 post has only just appeared!

Anyway Reg id'd it correctly as the Turner TSW-2 Hot Two, based as I have mentioned on the Currie Wot.

To confirm it is Open House.

This is all too confusing...Noyade's post has now disappeared!! Anyway I know you're there Graeme!

[Spit161]

Not a clue, sorry.
However, for some strange reason it reminded me of an FW-190D (Which, of course, it is not!)

[evansb]

Here is a silhouette project challenge: Thanks Dave for your assistance!
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/evansb-11.png

[evansb]

Yes, Spit161, I can see a hint of Focke-Wulf in it, but as you say, it isn't a Focke-Wulf.

[SincoTC]

Interesting looking project Bri, I'm sorry that there's not many players about this weekend, my online time is strictly limited too at the moment and I'll be out most of today.

I might as well kick the ball off with a couple of questions.

Can't see any wing fillets, so is it a mid-wing or shoulder-wing type?

It has quite a long nose; is the rise in profile of the top edge the start of a streamlined canopy and if so, is it a relatively modern racer??

[evansb]

It is the immediate post-war Argentine project I.Ae.231. I don't know if Kurt Tank had a hand in this, but chances are high.
OPEN HOUSE.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/NO_CLUE_HEAR.png

[skytrain10]

Seems to be a lack of interest in this thread. Considering we have probably covered less than 5% of the world's aircraft that seems to be a pity.
So back from my hols now, and in an effort to revive things, here is an easy one to get matters moving.
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/2ecba449.jpg

[skwinty]

Still interested but stretched for time.:ok:

Cessna 510 Citation Mustang?

[skytrain10]

Hi skwinty...
Still interested but stretched for time
Glad to hear it....just seemed very quiet, as highlighted by evansb declaring Open House after submitting his own challenge over the weekend.

Not the Cessna 510 skwinty....in fact not a Cessna product.

[skwinty]

Hi skytrain,

EMB 135/145 ?

[Ridge Runner]

is it a Phenom 300, Ken???

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon Gentlemen,

So back from my hols now

Welcome back Ken, I hope that you had a good break :ok:

I don't think that it's really a lack of interest in the thread, but rather the unfortunate coincidence of several of the usual players being on holiday at the same time and others under time constraints due to pressure of work!

For my part, I'm now about halfway through a month long period of dog/house-sitting that is seriously hampering my efforts to compete; my early mornings and evenings as well as traditional coffee breaks are occupied by looking after the mutt, "walkies" and two houses to maintain, unfortunately, the internet connection at the other house in the evening is also down at the moment :ugh:

I hope that some of the others will be back soon so we can get things humming again :)

[skytrain10]

Skwinty, not the EMB-135/145, but close....

However RR has it, its the EMB-500 Phenom:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/217d8b30.jpg

Ridge Runner has control.

[Ridge Runner]

How about this .....?http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune190911A.jpg Hurriedly done !

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry chaps but it will have to be OH!!!! :(

[skytrain10]

Hi Trevor
Excellent holiday thank you. Nice and relaxing, which is just what we both needed after a hectic Summer.
Sounds like you've got your hands full at present. Hopefully we'll see more of you in a few weeks as things (hopefully) get back to normal and you are no longer in the dog-house, so to speak:)
Cheers
Ken

[skytrain10]

Hi Martin....to save confusion probably best to delete your post 2599!

Is it British mate?

[Ridge Runner]

I still seem to be going back in time!! :)

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Ken!!! Yes, a Brit! RR

[skytrain10]

Parnall Hendy Heck?

[Ridge Runner]

That's the one mate. You have CONTROL!

[skytrain10]

Thanks Martin

Here's the next one, which is a variant of one we have had before.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d2d1a77f.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Romanian, Ken???

[skytrain10]

Not Romanian Martin

[skytrain10]

it looks a lot like a Pilatus. Close
My deliberate ploy worked:).....but not close at all mate! Wrong side of the pond.

[Ridge Runner]

it looks a lot like a Pilatus. Close??

[Ridge Runner]

OK, North or South?

[skytrain10]

Related to a Navion, perhaps???
More than related Martin, it is a Navion, in this case the Navion G Rangemaster, powered by a 260hp Continental engine.

You have control:ok:

[skytrain10]

OK, North or South?
North - US.

Going to be on the road soon. Will look in in a couple of hours.

[Ridge Runner]

ok, ok.... Lycoming???

[skytrain10]

My posts appear to be out of sequence - look up, you've got it!

[Ridge Runner]

That tail looks so familiar. Related to a Navion, perhaps???

[Ridge Runner]

Blimey!!!! I didn't expect that!!!!!!!!! I'll have to declare OPEN HOUSE!!!!!!RR

[evansb]

Here is a challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/JAR_JAR_BINKS.jpg

[SincoTC]

Good morning Brian,

That looks like a Bernard 82 Bomber ??

Open House if correct please, as I can't monitor at the moment.

No lights on at the moment, but hopefully there'll be more online later!!

[evansb]

SincoTC is correct. The Bernard 82 long range bomber. First flew in 1933. Only two prototypes were built. As he requested, it is OPEN HOUSE.

[Spit161]

Avro Anson?

[sabredog]

Tachikawa Ki.54 Type 1 (Code Name Hickory)

[skwinty]

Evening all,
Here is one.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/skwinty/y.jpg

[skwinty]

Not Anson or even British.

[Spit161]

In that case it has to be the Japanese "clone", the Ki-54.

[skwinty]

According to the time stamp gremlin, Sabredog has control.:D

[Spit161]

Stupid time stamp :mad:

[sabredog]

Thank you,Skwinty. Please forgive the pun,but I really do think it is about time that someone sorted out the "PPRune clock". I was beginning to think my submission was invisible!
Open House

[Spit161]

Heres one:

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k571/Spit161/F.jpg

Ok, ok. Not strictly a silhouette :sad:...
cheers,
Jake.

[sabredog]

Fiat BR.20 Cicogna

[Spit161]

Sabredog has control

Also, could one of you PM me about how to make a "proper" silhouette? I can't seem to get it to work!

cheers,
Jake.

[sabredog]

Open House

[skytrain10]

As its Open House:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/3f650350.jpg

[Spit161]

Cessna Grand Caravan?

[skytrain10]

Not a Grand Caravan Jake.

PM for you....

[Spit161]

PM for you....

Thanks mate.
Just replied.

cheers,
Jake.

[Noyade]

Morning/Evening.

Canadian Ken? :)

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme
Canadian Ken?
Mmm, most people say American, North American or USA as their opener...but of course you are correct, it is Canadian:ok:

[Noyade]

Possibly this?

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1043/img015wx.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/img015wx.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Well, its the same aircraft, but my picture has the usual single engine!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/255387dd.jpg

Yes, its a somewhat modified DHC-3 Otter, and as Graeme's picture shows, it went on to be fitted with 2 engines!

Noyade has control:ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken...you're being very generous. It was the tail that tweaked the recognition neurones. :)

Don't have much, I'm sorry, been busy...


http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9554/img010f.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/img010f.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Beriev Be30?

I had wondered about putting the twin engine option up, but figured it looked too Twin Otter like!

[Noyade]

Beriev Be30?



I should have known. All yours Ken! :)

I woke to the news that we're heading for another World recession with the credit ratings taking a dip for the US, Italy and the UK. Can you handle the pressure of another silhouette mate? :)

[Spit161]

I woke to the news that we're heading for another World recession with the credit ratings taking a dip for the US, Italy and the UK. Can you handle the pressure of another silhouette mate?

I can't!!
*wipes sweat away*...

[Noyade]

I can't!!
*wipes sweat away*...


:)

PS..what is this "time stamp" problem all about? Why is it happening?

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme.

Can you handle the pressure of another silhouette mate? I can take it, however I am now economising in my effort to bring the countries debt down....hence a 3-view; quicker than a silhouette, thereby saving my valuable time to find more potential challenges :)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/e73da9e4.jpg

PS..what is this "time stamp" problem all about? Why is it happening? Appears to be a problem with the pprune clock which for unknown reasons has been "jumping" around. Seems ok at present but I've had posts moved 15 mins back in time, resulting in them appearing to be out of sequence. Can get confusing:confused:

[Spit161]

I'm going to get flamed if this is wrong - Sopwith Pup?

cheers,
Jake.

[Noyade]

economising in my effort to bring the countries debt down


Excellent! Keep at it mate! :)

Gonna log off and get some sloths moving, will look in again later.

Cheers, from an economically viable country! (wanna borrow some money?) :ok:

[skytrain10]

I'm going to get flamed if this is wrong - Sopwith Pup?
Ah, in that case you could get rather hot:):)!!
Not a Sopwith Jake

[Spit161]

Ah, in that case you could get rather hot!!

Dam..:{
Anyhow, I'm logging off - I'll check back in tomorrow to see how things are progressing!

Jake.

[skytrain10]

In fairness they are quite similar, particularly from the side and front.

Anyhow, I'm logging off - I'll check back in tomorrow to see how things are progressing!
Ok, catch you tomorrow. I'll log off soon myself.
Good night

[Noyade]

Aha! :)

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3688/img016jh.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/img016jh.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme
The Spyker Trompenburg V3 it is:ok:
So what's the book...don't immediately recognise it - or is the extract from a magazine?

Noyade has control

[Ridge Runner]

Air Enthusiast/International I think. RR

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken.
G'day Martin, yes, Air International.

Couldn't find this on Mel's list but I was sure Sinco had posted it before?

Maybe not...

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9537/img018nc.jpg (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/img018nc.jpg/)

[HappyPass]

Hi, long time no see...
Been absurdly busy, but still I tried to read all the posts when I had time...

An unreasonably ugly Supermarine (a.k.a. Pemberton-Billing) P.B.31E Nighthawk? :)
http://coldwar-warrior.********.com/2010/01/fail-supermarine-pb-31e-night-hawk.html

OH if right...
Will see if I can be back in October or so...
Best regards,
HP

[skytrain10]

Graeme/Martin....yes of course, Air International

Happy Pass, nice to see you online, albeit briefly :ok:

I was about to say the PB.31, but too slow this morning.

[Noyade]

An unreasonably ugly Supermarine (a.k.a. Pemberton-Billing) P.B.31E Nighthawk?


That's him. Open House.

Sorry, I was refreshing the contents page regularly but the latest posts never loaded.....:hmm:

[skytrain10]

As its Open House, here's one to keep things moving:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/f79f9f67.jpg

[Noyade]

Handley Page Hyderabad...?

[skytrain10]

Not the Hyderabad Graeme

[Noyade]

How 'bout the Hinaidi...?

[skytrain10]

The Hinaidi it is Graeme:ok:

http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/bww1/hp33/hp33-5.jpg

Noyade has control

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken. Got there in the end. :)


http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/968/img017h.jpg (http://img839.imageshack.us/i/img017h.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Got a clue for ya mate...

Source says this was the first British aircraft with three engines (geared to one 9'10" pusher prop).

[skytrain10]

Radley-England Waterplane?

[Noyade]

Done! :ok:

Your control.

Originally flown as a landplane with a temporary wheeled undercarriage...

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8702/1912radleyengland.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/1912radleyengland.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Gonna log off for a while Ken. Cheers. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme...hopefully catch you later:ok:

Here's the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/b932aaad.jpg

[Noyade]

Possibly the Dewoitine 373/376 mate?

If so, open house.

Night! :ok:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3623/0176937.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/0176937.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Possibly the Dewoitine 373/376 mate?Not possibly, but definitely (in this case the D.376). Well done:ok:

Night night

Graeme has declared Open House.

[skytrain10]

Hate to leave an Open House up too long, so here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/29a802bc.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

some kind of MIG project, Ken?? Those ventral fins look very Foxbatish!! RR

[skytrain10]

Thought a fast jet would get your attention:)

Not a MiG Martin...and not a project.

[Spit161]

F111 Ardvark?

[skytrain10]

Hi Jake, not the F-111.

[Ridge Runner]

Not a MiG Martin...and not a project.

So built? Flown? I guess it could be a wacky Iranian machine or something?

Edit: surely those ventral fins fold on the ground?

[skytrain10]

So built? Flown? I guess it could be a wacky Iranian machine or something? Built and flown but not Iranian.

surely those ventral fins fold on the ground? No, they are reported as fixed. Certainly in both ground and air photo's the fins are in that position.

[Ridge Runner]

Single fin or twin??

[Ridge Runner]

???

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRj2QfWccYBprVDRWiSLR-Ud6IMIEBshqsmzfcFAExRISEYTdYpNQ

[skytrain10]

Single fin or twin?? Ventral fin, 2, tail fin, 1.

Photo looks like it....so what is it?

[Ridge Runner]

Xian JH-7?

[skytrain10]

Xian JH-7?That's the one mate:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/5bd48635.jpg

Your control

[Ridge Runner]

Thank mate... Here you go...

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune210911A.jpg

[skytrain10]

Hi Martin, some questions:
- single prop?
- is that a cockpit window open?
- is that a tie down on the port side?
Cheers

[Ridge Runner]

You're an observant bloke:

two props
open cockpit
no, mate.. another prop

:)

[Spit161]

Hi Martin,
If that has as many props as I can see in the picture, and I recognize the wheel struts, it's the FK55.

cheers,
Jake.

[Ridge Runner]

You are there, mate. The Koolhoven FK55

http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/AE/AE72-3/148-1.jpg

You have control!!!

[Spit161]

Thanks RR!
Here is a simple one:

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k571/Spit161/d-1.jpg

cheers,
Jake.

[skytrain10]

It may be simple...sadly not for me!

Let's start....German...an Extra possibly. That tail worries me though:(

[Spit161]

No and No, unfortunately.

cheers,
Jake.

[skytrain10]

Not surprised....ok, let's see, would it be from the US?

[SincoTC]

Hi Jake,

Is it a Zivko Edge 540 ??

Have to be an Open House if correct as I'm off now and can't monitor tonight!

Edit: Evening Ken (thanks for PM :ok:) and Martin, sorry to bugger off so soon, but dog needs walkies (and supper) :)

[skytrain10]

Evening Trevor..hope it's not the Zivko Edge has I had ruled that one out!

How about the Staudacher S.300?

Edit disregard the Staudacher.....that small fillet on the leading edge of the tail is bugging me...I wonder, does this aircraft have winglets?

[skytrain10]

Or the Aero Cam Slick 360?

[Spit161]

SincoTC is correct - it is the Zivko Edge 540. More specifically it is Matthias Dolderer's from the RBAR.

As SincoTC requested - open house.

cheers,
Jake.

[evansb]

Way too much detail showing, but here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/OOPS_I_DID_IT_AGAIN.jpg

[SincoTC]

ACAZ T-2 ???

Edit: Just starting work and surprised to see your light on Brian; can't sleep mate or a conscientious monitor?

Unless you've found another name for it, it was certainly easier the second time around ;) !! (SC Page 619)

Open House please if correct as I'm in the workshop most of the day :(

[skytrain10]

Morning / Afternoon all
Wish I'd logged on last night now...I was the one who originally posted the ACAZ T-2!
Certainly looks like it:ok:

[evansb]

SincoTC is correct. Your turn. (Sorry about posting a repeat).

[skytrain10]

Bri, if I may, as SincoTC declared Open House:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/be005261.jpg

[Spit161]

Avro Anson?

cheers,
Jake.

[skytrain10]

Avro Anson?
Looks a little like that doesn't it, but it's not the Anson.

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken,

Seeing quite a few names logged in at the moment, so I don't feel so bad at another "guess and run"!!

Going by the glimpse of nacelle, a Yakovlev Yak-8 ??

Off for dog/house duties now, so OH please if correct.

Going to have a serious go at getting their WIFI sorted out tonight to avoid another fortnight of restrictions!!

[skytrain10]

Evening Trevor....not a Yak product.

Hope you manage to sort the WiFi out, catch you later maybe.

[evansb]

Gotha Go.146 ?

[skytrain10]

Hi Bri, not a Gotha.

[evansb]

Mitsubishi Ki-57 'Topsy' ?

[skytrain10]

Not a Mitsubishi either....

[irishair2001]

Caudron Goeland ?

[skytrain10]

Evening Irishair - not a Caudron machine.

Lot's of guesses....nobody has got the country right yet!

[Noyade]

nobody has got the country right yet!

Evening.

I'll try for Czech...looks a little like the Aero A.204/304?

[skytrain10]

I'll try for Czech...looks a little like the Aero A.204/304?
Morning Graeme. Not Czech mate - excuse the pun:)

[Noyade]

Czech mate

Sounds about right. :)

European?

[skytrain10]

European...yes:ok:

Just the one built as far as I can see.

[Noyade]

I'll keep looking mate, but I'm working an evening shift today so won't have too much time.

I'm also looking for Mel's cockpit - it's driving me nuts!

Get some sleep Ken! :)

Cheers.

[skytrain10]

Yep, closing down now.

Good luck on Mel's cockpit challenge:ok:

Good night

[Ridge Runner]

Morning!!!

I''d say scandinavian?

[skytrain10]

Morning Martin
I''d say scandinavian? I wouldn't!
Not Scandinavian RR - that's ruled out a few countries.

[Noyade]

Morning!

Good luck on Mel's cockpit challengehttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

:(

Yours Polish Ken?

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme...not Polish either.

In terms of "geographical" suggestions I guess you and evansb have been closest :).

Would never have got the WC challenge...went through all the HB models I could find yesterday evening - closest I could see was the CC, but that was definitely not a bomber. Wish I'd said it now!

[Noyade]

OK. Thanks.

Just looking at my 1987 "Times Atlas of the World"....East Germany? :)
Should I update?

Hungary?
Austria?

[SincoTC]

Morning Gents,

First break of the day!

Ken, is it the Hopfner / Hirtenberg HV.15 ?? (or maybe WN-15)

OH if correct please, as I'm back to the grind now!

[skytrain10]

Should I update? Could be worse...could be Prussia!
I got a newish Times Atlas last year...lots of changes from my previous one, which was from the mid 60's. A lot less pink on the world map these days!

Worth looking closely at the other two countries you've mentioned:ok:

[skytrain10]

Morning Trevor

Ken, is it the Hopfner / Hirtenberg HV.15 ?? (or maybe WN-15)

Bingo....well done Trevor, it is indeed the Hopfner (or Hirtenberg) HV-15 from Austrian:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/ee6fa55d.jpg

SincoTC has delared Open House

[Noyade]

Is "Sinco" Indian for one who swoops?

Did you see that coming Ken? I certainly didn't.

[skytrain10]

Is "Sinco" Indian for one who swoops?
Could well be mate...:ok:

No, didn't see that coming...but we should know by now!

Got something to post Graeme, or Martin?

[Noyade]

Try this Ken. (I've just gotta find where I got it, what it is and if it's on Mel's list - gimme a minute. :))

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2351/img022ez.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/img022ez.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Please tell me its not a German seaplane Graeme:(

[Noyade]

Found it.

Not a German seaplane Ken. :)

Just want the manufacturer's name for control.

Clue..."Schneider"

[skytrain10]

Nieuport VI?

[Noyade]

Nieuport VI?

Excellent. Manufacturer and designation! :ok: My source just called it the "Nieuport monoplane of 1913''.

Back to you Ken.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme. Initially I thought it was the 1913 winner...a Depurdussin, but didn't look right so had to do a little research. Found a good website in the process thats list ALL the competing aircraft - sadly no pictures though.

Here's something a little newer:

Edit to say challenge withdrawn.

[Noyade]

little newer

How new is that Ken? Looks like a pusher prop version of the Gulfstream Peregrine?

[skytrain10]

How new is that Ken? Looks like a pusher prop version of the Gulfstream Peregrine? New....21st century! No connection with the Peregrine.

[Noyade]

Not East German then. :)

[skytrain10]

Not East German then. Well, oddly enough....you are correct...its not. Not from the Austro-Hungarian Empire either.

[Noyade]

No idea mate, too modern for me. Probably best if I leave if for "the one who swoops". :)

At the back, two horizontal tails? Contra-prop?

[Noyade]

Listed here?...

Category:Pusher aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pusher_aircraft)

[skytrain10]

At the back, two horizontal tails? Contra-prop? Just the one horizontal Graeme. What looks like the 2nd one is the starboard wing. Single 4 bladed prop

Listed here?...
Not that I can see.

[Noyade]

Could one assemble this with a cordless drill and pop-riveter - ie, Kitplane?

Not that I can see.

Bugger!

[skytrain10]

Could one assemble this with a cordless drill and pop-riveter - ie, Kitplane? I suppose in theory yes, but no, it was/is not offered as a kit plane - as far as I can gather just the one built. There is a connection between this and the previous challenge!!

[Noyade]

There is a connection between this and the previous challenge!! Nieuport MMXI...?

You mean they're both French?...possibly?...maybe?

[skytrain10]

Nieuport MMXI...? Not that sort of connection, although I like the sound of it. And no, not a French machine.

[Noyade]

OK.
Well mate, it's 2300 hrs here and it's been a long day so I'll stop harassing you (are you at work?) and head to bed. Gotta get up early and solve Mel's jet-pipe and this challenge, unless the swooper strikes both threads! :)

Cheers.

[skytrain10]

Going offline until late this evening. Will check-in before I hit the hay.

[skwinty]

A hydro Nieuport IV in the Schneider Cup, 1913

[skytrain10]

Hi skwinty, sorry couldn't reply sooner.

A hydro Nieuport IV in the Schneider Cup, 1913 You're looking at the wrong challenge - that one's been done! Current challenge is my Post 2733.

Cheers Ken

[skwinty]

Thanks Ken, I missed a few posts.

How about a LH-10 Ellipse?

[skytrain10]

Not the LH-10 skwinty.

The aircraft is from the US.