Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[Lightning Mate]

Wouldn't happen in a Merc, eh mate?! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif....

Hope not. Ours is still fully serviceable.

[trucky04]

Mitsibushi G3m 'Nell'

[Noyade]

Mitsibushi G3m 'Nell'

Tis indeed Trucky. Your control. :)

(Bucketing down now....)

[trucky04]

OPEN HOUSE PLEASE

[Lightning Mate]

Are you still up Graeme?

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/theblues.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Hi David,

French? From the Payen stable, perhaps?

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Martin.

Not French I'm afraid.

[skytrain10]

Lunch break...Skoda-Kauba SK257 V4?

[Lightning Mate]

Couldn't have put it better meself.

Your turn. :ok::ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks David. Busy day today so I won't promise I can always monitor, but here we go with the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/cf2dc9f0.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Flight Design C4


I won't promise I can always monitor

Don't worry mate - I can. :E

[Lightning Mate]

PS Ken,

When you come back could I ask you to go to the Challenge thread and second my post.

[skytrain10]

Flight Design C4 That was quick, yep, it is the Flight Design C4:ok: And here was I thinking this would be a tough one - until I found it I had never even heard of the C4 version.
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/ae779ff7.jpg

LM has control

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you kindly - and for the other post.

You can get your own back now....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/greennotblue.jpg

[skytrain10]

Spad S.91/7?

[Lightning Mate]

Five minutes down from twelve. :ok:

Back to you again. :D

[skytrain10]

Cheers David. I see there are a whole load of S.91 variants, most of which have a similar inverted sesquiplane layout.

Here is the next challenge....5 mins to beat:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/3de5d866.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

I won't make it - awaiting reply on challenge thread mate.

Check it out.

[skytrain10]

Check it out. Way beyond me mate...afraid my identification skills are not up to that.

[Lightning Mate]

Going home now - back in about an hour.

[Lightning Mate]

A modern looking wing on an old looking aeroplane. :uhoh:

[skytrain10]

Modern wing and modern aircraft....1990's.

[Lightning Mate]

.......:eek:.......

[skytrain10]

European design...:)

[Ridge Runner]

A Czech, Ken?????

[skytrain10]

Evening mate, no not Czech. Head west:ok:

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken,

You 'aint seen me right! Just monitoring my Cockpit while getting someting to eat, but it seem rude to have my light on and say nowt :)!

West of Czech then, Germany or west some more ?

[skytrain10]

Germany Right country Trevor:ok:

[Noyade]

Evening Ken. Homebuilt?

say nowtHad to look that up! :)

Use nowt in a sentence | nowt sentence examples (http://sentence.yourdictionary.com/nowt)

(Heading out - good luck Trevor!)

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme
Homebuilt? Yes:ok: First flown in the late 90's. Uses a car engine.

Closing down now...usual rules apply for the night shift.

Good night.

[SincoTC]

Morning Ken,

I believe the EEL ULF-2 fits the bill ??

Edit to say I dismissed it last night 'coz it said the prototype first flew in 1993 but this morning I found it by a different route, looked again at wiki and saw that I'd missed where it said "The first ULF 2 completed by a customer was flown in 1999" :O

[Lightning Mate]

Morning all. :)

On the "Boost" thread I seem to be banging my head against the wall.

[skytrain10]

I believe the EEL ULF-2 fits the bill ?? It fits it perfectly Trevor - yes its the EEL ULF-2 homebuilt aircraft from Germany:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/1bd862ff.jpg

SincoTC has control

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken,

Here's what should be an easy one, I'm at work now and have visitors due later this morning, but will continue to monitor as often as possible :)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf212.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

I'm at work now and have visitors due later this morning

Not going down the lane to that nice pub then.

Your challenge looks like a tandem advanced tactical trainer.

[skytrain10]

Hi Trevor....the Mitsubishi T-2CCV?

[SincoTC]

Not going down the lane to that nice pub then.

Quite possibly :ok:

It did start out as a tandem trainer, but this one has another purpose :)

I feel for you re "Boost" (I have got to explain relative and absolute coordinate measurement systems to our guests). It'll be nice when you stop banging your head against a wall

[SincoTC]

Yes Ken, it is the Mitsubishi T-2CCV :D! I was hoping that that vertical surface might have been forgotten,; not so :ugh:

Experimental Control Configuration Vehicle testbed, built from the third T-2 produced. Includes three canards.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/t2ccv_1.jpg

skytrain10 has control :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

I've stopped banging my head against the wall - it's fruitless. :(

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor. Work calls so will have to be Open House.

[evansb]

Hmm...VW powered ?

[Lightning Mate]

I can't find details of the engine, but I doubt it.

Hmm...not a Yak.

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/meerkovo-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Good grief - Sunday afternoon and nobody in the playground!!!!

[Lightning Mate]

Challenge withdrawn after almost two days due to zero response. :uhoh:

Open House prevails since post #6040.

[skytrain10]

Morning, sorry not been around since Saturday David, but looks like nobody else has either:(. Intrigued by yours David - I guess it was some sort of experimental job or maybe even a UAV? Anyway best saved until there are more (or any!) players around.

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken.

It was indeed a quiet weekend - only me around.

I therefore spent a lot of time sleeving and now have eight lined up and ready to go. :)

Dunno whether to post one or not.

edit: I see Martin on line.

[skytrain10]

Morning David.
It was indeed a quiet weekend - only me around. Yes, I've had a couple of those myself before Xmas...frustrating I know:(

I'm pretty busy today but if you've got one to post then go for it:ok: I'll be monitoring off and on through the day

[Lightning Mate]

Nothing going on so.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/niceday-5.jpg

[skytrain10]

Looks old but a colour background? A replica of something old, or a new aircraft that just looks old?

[Lightning Mate]

It's a replica.

[skytrain10]

Ah ah...so is this effectively new, and a replica that is available as a homebuild?

[Lightning Mate]

No mate.

The photograph was taken in 1967. It is now in a museum.

Not available as a kit. Original was 1922.

[MReyn24050]

Rieseler RIII perhaps?

[Lightning Mate]

Perhaps indeed Mel.

You have control. :D

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Reisler.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks David. Here is the next one (well it is almost a silhouette):-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Silhouettequiz102.jpg

[skytrain10]

Hi Mel....Saab MFI-17 Supporter?

[Lightning Mate]

I'm pretty busy today

Obviously! :E

[MReyn24050]

Ken. :ok: That is the one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/3385.jpg

You have control.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Mel.
Here is the next one....a project.

And David, just in case you're wondering, I managed to squeeze in a little time to get this one done during my coffee break:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/26161d7d.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Reminds me of a De Havilland design study.

[Ridge Runner]

A supermarine, mate?

[skytrain10]

Not DH or Supermarine Gents. And despite appearances it's not a British design.

[skytrain10]

Going offline soon....will check back in later this evening.

Usual rules apply if someone thinks they've got it:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Long shot - a bizjet?

Methinks twin engined and thus small.........

[skytrain10]

Just checking in. Not a bizjet David. It's design is from a pre-bizjet era and was for military purposes.

Going offline again but will look in again later.

[Noyade]

Luft '46 mate?

[Lightning Mate]

Nah mate - been all over that................:confused:

Oz medical stuff....

ARTERY........................................The study of painting.
BENIGN.........................................What you be after you be eight.
BACTERIA......................................Back door to cafeteria.
BARIUM.........................................What doctors do when patients die

:E

edit:
DILATE..........................................To live longer.

[Lightning Mate]

Bugger - visitors.......................:uhoh::uhoh:.......bye......

[Noyade]

Oz medical stuff....Sadly, I think too many doctors in this country use "Barium"..

Seeing this more and more...

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/8171/img460i.jpg (http://img864.imageshack.us/i/img460i.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Luft '46 mate? Well it is German and is WWII era but it does not feature in Luft46.

[skytrain10]

Morning. No takers overnight, so here is the silhouette with detail added:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/5957c553-1.jpg

[Noyade]

Morning Ken. Is it some sort of projected version of the Me 262?...

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9891/2hgiiiwb.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/2hgiiiwb.jpg/)

[Noyade]

If it is that HG III thing Ken, I'll have to make it open house, gonna watch the Top Gear India special shortly, cheers.

[skytrain10]

Hi Graeme...yes its the Me.262 HG.III variant, which according to some sources was actually under construction before the end of WW.II. Others suggest it was the mock-up that was being built.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/e9e90ef9.jpg

Enjoy Top Gear mate....not seen that episode.

Noyade has declared Open House

[Lightning Mate]

Morning...:)

[skytrain10]

Morning mate...:)

[Lightning Mate]

Might just have got the "Cryptic"....

Are you busy today?

[skytrain10]

Are you busy today? Yes, but I can play if you've got one to put up?

[Lightning Mate]

Standby then.........

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/check.jpg

[skytrain10]

Mmm, a UAV David?

[Lightning Mate]

....mmm....yes.

[skytrain10]

Not getting very far:( Only found 1 drone/UAV that comes close but other than it being homebuilt I have no idea what it's called! Even then the wings are not quite right, nor is the landing gear. Time for a fresh cup of coffee and a closer look:)

[Lightning Mate]

Clues are available......

[skytrain10]

Got my coffee, got a biscuit...need a clue!

[Lightning Mate]

Please standby - IT needs my machine.

[Lightning Mate]

Right, I'm back.

Empty weight 22kgs, 8kgs payload.

Last year.

Go a long way East. ;)

Had your coffee? - should have had tea. ;):)

[Lightning Mate]

Wanna really BIG clue?

[Ridge Runner]

yes please .......................

[Lightning Mate]

Hybrid power - a green machine. :ok:

Fuel cell and Lithium Ion battery. ;)

[Lightning Mate]

...type...type - it comes up on the first page.

[skytrain10]

Blimey....the Grey-Faced Buzzard UAV?

I say blimey as it is very similar to this one, which was the homebuilt UAV I found earlier which was exhibited in Taiwan!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/18132aa6.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Bingo mate. :D

All yours again. :ok:

The similarity is astonishing!

Going home now - hope to see a new one up.

[skytrain10]

Thanks David...as you say they are extremely similar, just the angle of the foreplanes are different, and of course the twin bogey on the homebuilt job. I do however suspect that either the Buzzard was the production version of the homebuild job, or that the homebuild job was a copy of the Buzzard....they are just too alike.

Next one...nice and easy.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/605aed5d.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Mystere (falcon) 3000?

[skytrain10]

Mystere (falcon) 3000? Not the 3000!

[Ridge Runner]

Wrong name i think, Ken, but was the prototype displayed years at Farnborough.... An enlarged Mystere 20?

[skytrain10]

but was the prototype displayed years at Farnborough.... An enlarged Mystere 20? That's the one.....designed as a feederliner (to use the term that was used in those days!)

[Ridge Runner]

Mystere 30... OH

[skytrain10]

Mystere 30 Got there in the end mate:ok:. Yes the Dassault Mystere 30, which was aimed at the 30 seat commuter market. A 40 seat version (the Mystere 40) was also proposed. Just the prototype built. Here it is at Farnborough:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/2cc5a50b-1.jpg

Ridge Runner has declared Open House

[Lightning Mate]

So I get home and what do I find! :\

[Lightning Mate]

Lossa new stuff of late, so........

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/realold-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Morning....genuine article or another replica?

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken.

The genuine article.

[Lightning Mate]

Methinks a clue is required...

[skytrain10]

It's probably the fence in the background, but is it American?

Clue may well be needed as not getting anywhere on the usual sites:ugh:

[Lightning Mate]

It was indeed American....and you know exactly where to go, and it ain't Aerofiles.

Wanna year to cut down search time?

[Lightning Mate]

Just had a thought - maybe it's TC who knows the site.

Anyway, 1912.

Would you like the site mate? (via PM of course)

[skytrain10]

Thanks David....I know the website but just hadn't had time to go through it.....the Gandy-Vrang 2-seater monoplane?

[Lightning Mate]

That's the one Ken. :ok:

Over to you.

[Lightning Mate]

I feel something coming on.......:)

[skytrain10]

Sorry for the delay....work distractions!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d25eb712.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

East European?

[skytrain10]

East European? Nope, in fact not European at all.

[Lightning Mate]

Sod it!

Shall I go across the pond?

[skytrain10]

Shall I go across the pond? Good thinking:ok:...but no photo in Aerofiles.

[Lightning Mate]

:mad::mad: search engine!!!!

[skytrain10]

Want a clue?

[Lightning Mate]

Yes please. :)

...mind you, I'm not thinking straight today.............

[skytrain10]

Homebuild!

[Lightning Mate]

Ta muchly - just been in class for a while.

[Ridge Runner]

It looks like a Fw190 replica with a second wing?

Edit: An Aerocad machine???

[Lightning Mate]

Looking at the gear struts I would think it's smaller than it may first appear.

In comparison, the radial looks big though.

[skytrain10]

Looking at the gear struts I would think it's smaller than it may first appear. Not really...over 2,500 kgs in weight. Wingspan over 30 ft.

the radial looks big though. Its a fair size and not what you would normally expect in a homebuild job.

It looks like a Fw190 replica with a second wing? Interesting:) But no connection whatsoever with the Fw.190 and not by Aerocad.

[Lightning Mate]

Is it a cantilever?

[skytrain10]

Is it a cantilever? Yes it is :ok:

[skytrain10]

Let me know if you want another clue :)

[Lightning Mate]

Later maybe - it's gozome time mate.

Maybe there will be another clue awaiting.

[skytrain10]

Clue....all is perhaps not what it seems ;)

[Lightning Mate]

Often the way around here!

Does that mean it's more modern than it looks?


Good thinkinghttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif...but no photo in Aerofiles.

The inference is therefore that is described ony.

A Rotec engine?

[skytrain10]

Does that mean it's more modern than it looks? Actually that wasn't my meaning, but it so happens it is a modern design:ok:

The inference is therefore that is described ony. Correct:ok:

A Rotec engine? Nope...try Pratt & Whitney:)

[Karlark]

Is it yellow?

[Lightning Mate]

Once again that's taken me to "C" in Aerofiles..........

P&W Wasp.........only one registered?

[skytrain10]

Is it yellow? There are yellow ones:)
Once again that's taken me to "C" in Aerofiles........ Not the place to be David.
P&W Wasp.........only one registered? Wasp yes, but there are a few of these aircraft around.

From Karl's rather "off the cuff" comment I have a feeling he knows the answer!

Edit...but he gone!!

[Lightning Mate]

If he knows the answer, why has he gone then?

[evansb]

Griffon Aerospace Lionheart ?

[skytrain10]

If he knows the answer, why has he gone then? The most commonly photographed one of these, and the one that was used in publicity material is yellow!

[skytrain10]

Griffon Aerospace Lionheart ? Spot on Bri :ok: Yes, the rather unsuccessful Lionheart kit plane, designed to bring back the spirit of the Beech 17. Had to hunt for that one photo that did not give it away:) I thought Martin's earlier comment about an Fw.190 with an extra wing might have got people thinking!

David, now you know why I made the comment that all is perhaps not what it seems:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/4600b6d5.jpg

evansb has control:D

[Lightning Mate]

A bloody bipe!!!!

I'll get you for this............:E

Memsab shouting "dinner".

[evansb]

Thanks. Here is the next one:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120222.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Dinner can wait.

Nord 1402A Gerfaut

[evansb]

Sorry LM, not the 1402.

[skytrain10]

Disappear for a bite to eat and it starts moving!

Nord 1405 Gerfaut II?

Edit if correct will have to be OH...or better still I think it should go to David as he was very close.

[evansb]

Yes, the Nord 1405.:ok: As skytrain10 requests, Lightning Mate has control.

[Lightning Mate]

That was a silly typo wasn't it!


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/broon.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Fokker F.7????

[Lightning Mate]

Morning mate. :)

This Fokker is not a Fokker.

[Ridge Runner]

Avro 618??? If not - a SABCA, Avia, IMAM, AAC or a Polish copy?

[Lightning Mate]

Avro 618???

Remove the question marks please.

You have control. :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks, David. I regret I must declare an OH as I have had no time to prepare anything. RR :(

[Lightning Mate]

Oh dear oh dear - and you're the only other one on thread!

....sleeve....

[skytrain10]

Morning. I'm around:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

.....:).......

[skytrain10]

Here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/0caf3bde.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Looks distinctly Jap.

[Ridge Runner]

A metal and wood construction? European, therefore? A fighter? (although I can't see evidence of armaments)

RR

[Lightning Mate]

(although I can't see evidence of armaments)

Unless it's a torpedo bomber.

[skytrain10]

Looks distinctly Jap. It does a little....but not from Japan

European, therefore? A fighter? Yes, European but more of an attack aircraft...has machine guns but could carry bombs too.

A metal and wood construction Yep

[Lightning Mate]

Caproni AP-1 ?

No - the Bergamaschi?

[skytrain10]

Caproni AP-1 Bingo, well done, yes it's the Caproni AP.1:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/7e158155.jpg

LM has control

[Lightning Mate]

Just realised both my answers are the same aeroplane. :\

Now what would you like - sumfin' very old, newish, or in between?

[skytrain10]

newish would be good:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

OK then....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/newish.jpg

[skytrain10]

Is it the Belite Trike?

[Lightning Mate]

Nice try mate, but no.

Ain't that one got fixed Fowler flaps?

[Ridge Runner]

I'm guessing its a homebuilt, Ken?

[Lightning Mate]

David says yes.

[skytrain10]

Ain't that one got fixed Fowler flaps? Now I've looked I see it has - it was just an educated guess as the shape looked about right:)

Presume as Martin speculates, it's a homebuild job?

[Lightning Mate]

Yes - as I said above.

[skytrain10]

Something bigger maybe....the Just Aircraft Escapade?

Edit, assuming correct will have to be Open House as will not have much chance to look in for the rest of the day.

[Lightning Mate]

It is indeed.

Your turn. :ok:

....and be gentle with us.....

[Lightning Mate]

He's gone....:eek::eek:

[Ridge Runner]

He declared OH!! Unf i don't have anything, David. Do you?

[Lightning Mate]

I missed his edit. :\

Want one? A big bipe or small?

[Lightning Mate]

Big one then:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/haveago.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

A sidestrand?

Edit: Forget that, I know what I mean but i got the wrong name! :(

[Ridge Runner]

British, Torpedo Bomber?

[Lightning Mate]

Not British - either bombs or a torpedo.

[Ridge Runner]

Ah... a jap, then??

[Lightning Mate]

......:)......

[Karlark]

I believe it's that Nakajima B3N.

[Lightning Mate]

It had a couple of names and that's one of them.

All yours again. :ok:

[Karlark]

Wasn't too sure if it was the B3N or B4N1... open house as I can only peak in now & then today.

[Lightning Mate]

Oh no - not again!!!

btw, it was also known as the Experimental 7-Shi.

Martin, have you had time to prepare something?

[evansb]

Identify this one:




http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120223.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Wossa wires at the base of the fin/tailplane?

[evansb]

The image is from a slide, so it is possibly nasal hair, lint, or bristle from a lens brush...

[Lightning Mate]

I can understand the last three....:E

[Lightning Mate]

Slide?

Thus maybe a 35mm camera, so not that old then.

Observation job?

[sabredog]

BEAGLE MK 11?

[Lightning Mate]

Beagle?..

edit: bugger..er no.

[evansb]

Not a Beagle. Yes, an observation/liaison and air ambulance. 1959ish, over 150 examples built.

[Karlark]

Nord 3400?

[Lightning Mate]

....:D.....

[evansb]

Yumpin yimminie! The Sveede from a thousand lakes is spot on:ok: Well done:D
The Nord 3400.

You have control.

[Karlark]

Thanks evanb... dem Sveedes are down the way, I'm on the Norske side of town:).

Scrounged one up:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/38-6.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day Karlark. The Yak-200.

Open House.

[Karlark]

That's the one Noyade. :ok:

Open house.

[Lightning Mate]

I put this up before when nobody was out to play.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/smalljob.jpg

[skytrain10]

Morning David....I thought this one might make a return appearance:)

So, a Russian homebuilt job? The one visible engine appears to be overwing mounted? So 2 engines?

[Lightning Mate]

Yes mate - I know you saw it and my clue, so this is your chance.

Single engine with choices available, but I can find no details of which ones.

[skytrain10]

Thanks David. Presumably a recent, ie 2000's design?

[Lightning Mate]

Can't find any dates mate, but I reckon you're on the right lines.

Off into class for about 45 mins.

[Lightning Mate]

Wanna juicy clue?

[Lightning Mate]

...yer tiz...

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Argos-store-locator.jpg

[skytrain10]

Thanks for the clue...I think!

Mmm, not in my bumper book of Russian homebuilt aircraft:)

So, low wing, single engine, single seat homebuild, probably recent design, with a large tail!

[Lightning Mate]

Look at the store name again......

Wanna modded shop pic?

If not, how about another photo of the aeroplane.

[skytrain10]

All it makes me think of is the Argo-02 which IS in my bumper book of homebuilds! So something else by Argo?

[Lightning Mate]

It is the Argo 02.

You have control. :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Really? Not according to the picture on my web page! :(

http://easyultralightdesign.com/argo023dview.gif

[Lightning Mate]

Standby - I did say it came with various powerplants..

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Argo02.jpg
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/1319522146_argo-02.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

I was thrown by the very different Fin/Rudder! :(

[skytrain10]

Well a bit stumped really. The tail is totally different from what pictures I've seen and the line drawing.. Guess its an adaption of the basic design? Peril's of homebuilds - builders can change things:)

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry to cause so much trouble.

[Ridge Runner]

No probs ... Come on Ken, do your worst!! :)

[Lightning Mate]

No......don't do that Ken. :eek:

[skytrain10]

Sorry to cause so much trouble. no probs, just one of those things:)

Will have one ready shortly.

[Ridge Runner]

As long as it isn't a homebuilt/LSA!!!!! :) :)

[Lightning Mate]

jet...jet...jet...

[skytrain10]

The following nicely meets all your wishes :)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/086cb25c.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

.....:\.....

[Ridge Runner]

Blimey!!! It really was built and flew? Or was it a model, Ken?

Edit:

Twin-jet?
High wing?
T-tail?
V/STOL?

[Lightning Mate]

Blown wing?

[skytrain10]

Blimey!!! It really was built and flew? Or was it a model, Ken? Believe it or not, this was built and it did fly! However the picture I have used is an artists impression largely because I could not find a decent useable picture of the real thing. So there could be some differences.

Twin jet, high wing, T-tail, STOL. Not a blown wing (that I can see) David.

[Ridge Runner]

I'm guessing there are few countries that have tried this kind of thing out so can we start thinning out the odds? Is it American?

Edit: planned as a military transport? Rear-loading door/ramp, perhaps?

[Ridge Runner]

Is it an Antonov, by chance?

[skytrain10]

Not American or Russian Martin.

There were both civil and military applications, but development was stopped. It did have rear doors but no mention of a ramp. However I am sure that was a possibility.

[Ridge Runner]

I'm guessing at Japanses mate but I really can't find anything other than a reference to a "japanese STOL research project"...... :(

edit: scrub that, I've been misled!!

[skytrain10]

"japanese STOL research project". To put your mind at rest, there is no connection with Japan that I can see. However it was built in an Asian country.

[Ridge Runner]

Such as China?? :)

[skytrain10]

Such as China?? Logical thought, but no.

[Ridge Runner]

That leaves few others I guess..... not Aussie 'cos it looks too sophisticated (;) Graeme), not Indian 'cos I thought I knew all their machines (maybe not) and so... Korea????????

[skytrain10]

None of those mate, although I guess you would get there by a process of elimination :). I should explain that the design is European. The company built and flew the one and only example in Asia, presumably to keep costs down.

[Ridge Runner]

OK... I have 30 minutes to go and then ... eject!!!!! So.......

German design?

[Lightning Mate]

Good evening Ken and Martin.

Reading with interest since I left.

Presumably the Asian country in question would have sophisticated aircraft production facilities, and in my mind that points to Taiwan.

[Ridge Runner]

So maybe the AIDC XC-2?

Edit: er... no!!! Stupid me!!!!!

[SincoTC]

Evening all :),

Apologies for absence, been a helluva week!!

It's British (or was :() the AVCEN Jetpod, I guess the project died with it's inventor. AVCEN Jetpod - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCEN_Jetpod)

[skytrain10]

Welcome back David...not Taiwan. This country is not really known for major aircraft projects, although interestingly this would not have been the first such venture whereby it has hosted production of a non-home grown machine.

The manufacturer is not German.

[Ridge Runner]

Blimey! So it is!!! And ..... I'm off ..... bye eeeeeeeeee :)

Edit: A very nice challenge, Ken!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lightning Mate]

Holy :mad:.:mad: ..... :mad:

Apologies for absence, been a helluva week!!

Hope it stays that way :mad:.

[skytrain10]

And while I'm answering questions, Trevor jumps in and strikes! Yes its the British designed (but Malaysian built) AVCEN Jertpod. Well done Trevor:ok:

This was the artists impression - one of many on the web:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/4513fc01.jpg
And here's the reason there are no decent pictures of it!

http://malfly.********.com/2011/07/avcen-jetpod.html
One wonders what might have been had this not happened.

Edit, seems above link does not work, but do a search for it and you'll find an article in the Malaysian Flying Herald.

Edit 2...Flight article:
'Jetpod' air taxi entrepreneur killed in test crash (http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/jetpod-air-taxi-entrepreneur-killed-in-test-crash-331065/)



SincoTC has control

[Lightning Mate]

Right TC.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/fighting_toon_postcard-p239268906798092576z8iat_400.jpg

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken,

I haven't got anything ready, but I'm on it right now, try not to be too long!

Hope it stays that way

Edit: LM, hellava week or absence?? :p:p

[Lightning Mate]

Edit: LM, hellava week or absence?? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/tongue.gifhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/tongue.gif

ABSENCE :E

I have to leave the fix for waypoint "KITCHEN".

[SincoTC]

OK, after grappling with a dropped network and resorting to a USB stick for transfer:ugh: here we go!!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf213.jpg

Edit: All lights are out at the moment, so I assume they've all got their snouts in the trough :)! Therefore, and with that in mind, I'll head off home myself, back in about an hour!

[Noyade]

snouts in the troughG'day Trevor. Quick Saturday morning stab, as I'm about to drop the youngest off at his first job...McDonalds. A lot of snouts there. :suspect::)

Pilatus P-2?

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

Sorry mate, not a Pilatus!

McDonalds. A lot of snouts there..

In the trough or in the burgers?? :)

I visited a house of the "Golden Arches" in Kuala Lumpur a few years ago; 'twas really weird, exactly like here in the UK and all the world over, except all the staff were pensioners instead of in their teens :hmm:!!

Hope your boy enjoys it :ok:

[Noyade]

snouts

Speaking of snouts, is yours (the challenge that is) Boche - Argus/Hirth?

pensioners instead of in their teens

There's hope for me yet!

What's the story behind that?

[SincoTC]

is yours (the challenge that is) Boche - Argus/Hirth?



Yes, no and yes!

The sprightly old bugger who was zooming around with a broom, said he was eighty-five and that the youngsters were too busy studying, which was good 'coz he hadn't got a pension and was pleased to get the work, plus he liked meeting people and practicing his english!!