Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[Noyade]

That's cold!Yeah, predicted max is 16 deg.C. Don't like winter and the cold. Don't like the rain. Don't like cloudy days.

I feel a song coming on. :)

Got today off - gonna paint a bedroom. Not sure if that's a good idea, temp/paint wise?

The IAR-831?

[skytrain10]

The IAR-831? Right company, but it's not the 831.

Not sure if that's a good idea, temp/paint wise?
No probs paint wise, but guess you'll have to have the windows open so you'll be a little chilly!

[Noyade]

No probs paint wiseI was thinking there was a minimum temp. for the paint chemistry to work? The tin instructions says it should be between 10 and 30 deg.C. Maybe I should wait for summer? :)

IAR-821?

[Noyade]

gonna paint a bedroomKen, I have to stop fart-arsing about and start this.

Open house if it is the IAR-821. I'll take a break after the first coat and re-look at your jet intake.

Cheers.:ok:

[skytrain10]

IAR-821? That's the one:ok: 20 examples produced of this agricultural aircraft plus one 2 seater.

From Observer's 1969:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/1f3ce47b.jpg

You have control

Correction....Graeme has declared Open House. Hope the painting goes ok Graeme:ok:

[Noyade]

Quick one....

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8227/img029uu.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/img029uu.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

IAR-821?

a nice one, Ken! i was tempted to ask if it was an ag machine (as I had earlier in the day for another) by wrongly didn't!!!!!

Hi Graeme! Not sure about yours - piston??

[Noyade]

Morning Martin.

Yes mate, piston.

[Ridge Runner]

american, I guess?

[Noyade]

Not American mate.

The sentence above it reads, "The Togolese Air Force operates its aircraft in the counter-insurgency role".

[Ridge Runner]

Ah, Epsilon!

Edit: OH if correct

[Noyade]

Ah, Epsilon!Tis indeed Martin. :ok:

Open House.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4352/img030cj.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/img030cj.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme/Afternoon Martin
Was just about to jump in with TB-30 but Martin was there ahead of me.

How's the new paint job Graeme?

[Noyade]

Still drying - too damn cold. :(

[Noyade]

Want another one? Easy to make - they're already black. :)

[skytrain10]

Well as you are watching paint dry...go for it...:ok:

[Noyade]

OK...

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3874/img031kh.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/img031kh.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Hmmm. Appears this is an Italian version of a Finnish aircraft already on Mel's list.

[skytrain10]

Sorry Graeme, distracted by work!

Must be the Aermacchi M-290TP:)
(previously the Valmet L-90TP Redigo)

[Noyade]

Aermacchi M-290TP

That's what I have mate. Are they exactly the same?

Your control.:ok:

[skytrain10]

Are they exactly the same? I believe they are. Aermacchi just took over the production rights. They may have updated the avionics but otherwise its identical to the Valmet design.

Assuming you are still watching the paint, here is the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/ca528c51.jpg

[Noyade]

Quick stab, Robin ATL?

Assuming you are still watching the paint

I think the fumes are getting to me. Heading off shortly.

[skytrain10]

Quick stab, Robin ATL? Good stab mate...yes it is the ATL:ok:

Back to you if you have one more?

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken, but it's been a long day. I'll make it open house.

Cheers mate. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Ok mate, sleep well:ok:

For the record Noyade has declared Open House

[Karlark]

I'll throw one in for the open house:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/39-1.gif

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Karl,

I'd guess an american racer???

RR

[Karlark]

Hi Martin, It's European.

Edit to say it was designed as a fighter.

[skytrain10]

Hi Karl. Is it a Bernard 12?

[Karlark]

Hi Ken. I can't seem to find a picture of the Bernard 12.. but no, not a Bernard or French; it was from a neighboring country.

[skytrain10]

Ah...in that case I'll go for the Piaggio P.2

[Karlark]

...And it certainly is the Piaggio P.2 :ok:.

Skytrain10's control.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Karl. Offline for a while so Open House. If no takers will post something later.

[Lightning Mate]

Morning/g'day. :)

[skytrain10]

Morning David.
How was Goodwood?

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken.

As good as usual - good job we didn't go today!

[skytrain10]

Glad you enjoyed it...yes, I think it could be a little wet today!

Taking up my own OH:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/aef1da1b.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

It looks like the flaps are retracted so I ssume the slats are fixed.

STOL?

[skytrain10]

Yes, fixed slats. Not referred to as STOL but the take-off distance is around 700 ft.

[Lightning Mate]

......take-off distance is around....

IS - I can't believe it's still in production, but surely it's not classified as a kit job.

[skytrain10]

IS - I can't believe it's still in production, but surely it's not classified as a kit job. I used the term "is" as the aircraft is still in existance. Not a kit, but a one off that never went in to production

[skytrain10]

David, looks like you're the only one around today. To help you a long, European design, first flew in 1961.

[Lightning Mate]

I've been looking around Europe.

Am I warm with France?

[skytrain10]

Am I warm with France? Boiling mate...it is French:ok:

[Noyade]

Morning or afternoon?

Anyway, is it the Legrand-simon LS.60 mate?

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8896/1093270m.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/i/1093270m.jpg/)

Must be open house if it is Ken. :)

[Lightning Mate]

Smartass strikes again!!

[Noyade]

Smartass strikes again!! Well, I was trying to help you out mate. See, I even made it open house - (if it is). :)

[Lightning Mate]

Paint dry yet?

Whilst we wait, Google Mercedes SLS convertible AMG - yesterday was fun. :)

[Noyade]

Yep she's done mate. :ok: Moving the furniture back in tomorrow. What was the best thing at that Goodwood Festival you were at yesterday?

[Lightning Mate]

The car above plus the Audi R8. Both were doing well over 100 from the paddock to the first corner - 300 yards!!!!

[skytrain10]

Anyway, is it the Legrand-simon LS.60 mate? That's the one Graeme:ok: Interesting history having been designed as a submission for a French light aircraft competition for the local flying clubs. However there was insufficient funding and only the one aircraft was produced. It actually was mentioned in relation to a challenge on the original SC forum!

Here it is the right way round:)
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/69210f09.jpg

The one example remains current on the French register.

Noyade has declared Open House

[skytrain10]

Google Mercedes SLS convertible AMG Impressive and quite "retro" in some respects. My favourite will always be the R129 models - obviously not as quick as the AMG but very stylish.

You got one to post David?

[Lightning Mate]

Would I not have anything......? :)

[Noyade]

Clock just struck 12. Night gents.

[skytrain10]

Clock just struck 12. Night gents. Thanks for popping in to see us:) Sleep well mate:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

er....waiting on Photobucket.....

[Lightning Mate]

I thought we had run out of sesquiplanes...

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/theOH-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

I thought we had run out of sesquiplanes... I found another one today:)

Looks to be quite a wing span there although it may be the camera angle. A European design David?

[Lightning Mate]

European..:ok:

edit: heading west - back shortly.

[skytrain10]

Mmm, not having a lot of luck so far. Presume we are looking at a 2 seater, maybe bomber/trainer?

Take that back...Handley Page HP.39 Gugnunc?

[Lightning Mate]

Take that back...Handley Page HP.39 Gugnunc?

Why the question mark.......?

Your thread mate. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks David....:ok:

Next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/25bda2ef.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Weird gear!

Designed for racing?

[skytrain10]

Designed for racing? Nope, a fighter.

[evansb]

Breda Ba-27 ?

[skytrain10]

Breda Ba-27 ? Not a Breda evansb...and not Italian.

[Noyade]

Evening.

Handley Page HP-21 Ken?

A-ha!...

(I've only seen it with the rather odd looking tail)

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9999/34801833.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/34801833.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme

Handley Page HP-21 Ken? That's the one (aka the HP-S):ok: - an unsuccessful attempt to produce a fighter for the US Navy. Thought it seemed appropiate after David's challenge:)

Your control Graeme.

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken - Open House, but will have one later if no response. :)

Catch ya later. Sleep well. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks mate, have a good day:ok:

[Noyade]

Couldn't make the background white Ken? Now have GIMP 2.8.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5444/smartasss.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/smartasss.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

G'day Graeme.:)

WW2 bomber or something else?

[sabredog]

Airspeed Oxford. (N6327),Farnborough.
Open House if correct.

[Noyade]

Morning gents. :)

Well done Sabredog. :ok:
Your control.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4885/img032h.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/img032h.jpg/)

[sabredog]

Many thanks.Graeme.
Apologies, but it must be ;
Open House.

[Karlark]

Ah, another open house over here:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/37-3.jpg

[Noyade]

Stabbing quickly now - Fleetwings Seabird?

[Karlark]

Good morning Graeme,

Yes, it is the Fleetwings Seabird, you stabbed with pinpoint accuracy :ok:.
There is one here locally in an aircraft museum:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/800px-Fleetwings_Sea_Bird.jpg
edit; wikipedia's photo

Noyade's control

[Noyade]

Thanks Karl. Looks like it's ready for the oven - aluminium foil? :)
Actually prepared one last night...didn't go completely black though...

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8343/img036mz.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/img036mz.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

German Graeme?

[Karlark]

Fokker T.III?

[Noyade]

Well done Karl.

Gold! :ok:

[Karlark]

Thanks Graeme. The Seabird hull posted above was made out of spot-welded Stainless Steel. :)

Don't have anything to post right now so it will be Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

Morning / evening.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1416/greensun.jpg

[skytrain10]

Morning David. Is that the Gippsland GA.200 Fatman?

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken.

It most certainly is - I was wondering where Graeme was.......

Your thread. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks David.

Next one -
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/068cc7d8.jpg

In the garden for a while now, so usual rules apply:ok:

[skytrain10]

Clue time...European design produced in both open and enclosed cockpit versions.

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry to desert you Ken, but I have been out all afternoon.

Was this thing Czech ?

[skytrain10]

Sorry to desert you Ken, but I have been out all afternoon. No probs David...as you may have seen I was out attending to the garden so have not been around much myself.

Not Czech mate!

[Lightning Mate]

Bugger.

Wossa fing behind the exhaust stubs ?

[skytrain10]

Wossa fing behind the exhaust stubs ? Don't know. The version with the enclosed canopy doesn't appear to have it.

Late 1930's design.

Gonna break for dinner now...back later

[Karlark]

Is it an SAI KZ II trainer aircraft?

[skytrain10]

Is it an SAI KZ II trainer aircraft? That's the one Karl, the KZ.II from 1937:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/ccd2a8b6.jpg

Karlark has control

[Karlark]

Thanks Ken. I recognised the uniquely shaped tail.

Let's try this concept drawing for the next:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/38-4.jpg

[skytrain10]

Hi Karl...from the location of the engines are we looking at a high speed flying boat/seaplane concept?

[Noyade]

Greetings from Oz gents. Is it American Karl? First thought was that Star Wars movie where they're racing those surface skimmers along the desert basin. :)

[Karlark]

Evening Ken,

It is a research and demonstration aircraft, under development to research sonic boom and supersonic transport.

Edit;
G'day Graeme,

Yes it is American. (not an Ekranoplan :))

[Noyade]

Or maybe Douglas had bigger plans for the X-3?

[Karlark]

I'm going to let this one go since the concept drawing on the internet is different than the one I used from a magazine:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/X-54concept.jpg

X-54: Supersonic Commercial Jet Aircraft, Expected to Cost About $ 80 Million | Laptop Computers | Mobile Cell Phone| GPS News (http://www.unitedgadget.com/2012/06/27/x-54-supersonic-commercial-jet-aircraft-expected-to-cost-about-80-million/)

Open House

[Noyade]

X-54: Supersonic Commercial Jet Aircraft, Expected to Cost About $ 80 Million | Laptop Computers | Mobile Cell Phone| GPS News (http://www.unitedgadget.com/2012/06/27/x-54-supersonic-commercial-jet-aircraft-expected-to-cost-about-80-million/)

Interesting. What's the city in the USA that has the huge half a McDonalds arch? That's what it reminds me of.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8573/img041wq.jpg (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/img041wq.jpg/)

[Noyade]

A lot slower...

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1391/savedm.png (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/savedm.png/)

(GIMP 2.8 is a little different to what the earlier version was Ken - background mechanism has changed - toolbox no longer appears?)

[Lightning Mate]

G'day mate.

Since it has a tailwheel I assume it's a piston.

Trainer?

[Noyade]

Morning mate. :)

165 hp Continental.

Described as "two seat advanced training and aerobatic aircraft".

[skytrain10]

Hi Graeme. Is it the Dalotel DM.165 Viking?

[Noyade]

Dalotel DM.165 Viking? Well done mate. :ok:
I have the Poulet Dalotel DM-165

Your control.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3499/img040t.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/i/img040t.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme. Maintaining an aerobatic theme:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/61fe9473.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Is that the one the Moroccan team, fly, Ken?

Edit: CAP 230/232???

[skytrain10]

Edit: CAP 230/232??? Not a CAP mate, but you are in the right country. I believe the CAP was the basis for this design.

[Lightning Mate]

A Piel design?

[Ridge Runner]

A Slick 360 from South Africa????

http://dms.progressivemediagroup.com/Uploads/Project/7255/images/144101/large/1-image.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

OPEN HOUSE if correct! Sorry ....

[skytrain10]

Not a Piel design David...nor a Slick Martin. As previously inferred, it is a French design.

To help you along, this was a 1980's design and competed on at least one occasion in the World Aerobatics Championship.

[Ridge Runner]

oh yes ... I forgot!!!!!!!!!!! :(

[Ridge Runner]

an Extra machine?

[skytrain10]

an Extra machine? Umm, that's German mate:)

[Ridge Runner]

oh dear ... clearly I'm hungry ... off to lunch!

RR:\

[Ridge Runner]

Su-17, A-7 Corsair II, SEPECAT Haguar

David, I'm surprised you've not made a raid on the Key Publishing forum!

RR :)

[Lightning Mate]

....Cawz I'm trying to find this bloody aeroplane!

What's the thread about?

edit: just found the thread - amateur codswollop!

[skytrain10]

Guys, tied up in a meeting for a while so usual rules apply. Will be back later.

[skytrain10]

Perhaps you need to take a look at the WAC contenders in the 1980's?

[Lightning Mate]

Done that!

[Ridge Runner]

Laser Z-200???

Edit: no, not thinking .... still hungry!! :(

[skytrain10]

Done that! Must have missed one then:)
Laser Z-200???
You need food mate!

As far as I can see examples of this aircraft turned up at 2 WAC's in the 1980's but probably only competed at one of them.

[Cows getting bigger]

Feugray ASA 200?

[skytrain10]

Feugray ASA 200? A very close call CGB. It's not the ASA-200 but it is externally very very similar. Both the ASA-200 and the challenge aircraft appeared at the 1986 event - where I believe the competition was cancelled due to weather.

[Ridge Runner]

more like the TR-200??

[skytrain10]

more like the TR-200?? Again very close, but not the TR-200.

[Ridge Runner]

TR-260? per chance?

[skytrain10]

TR-260? per chance? Mmm, have you been looking at Flight Global by chance? For reasons best known to them they have identified the aircraft incorrectly! Anyway, its NOT the TR260.

Edit to say....the digits are correct martin...just the make that's wrong:)

[Ridge Runner]

oh dear, I've drawn a blank!!!!

[skytrain10]

oh dear, I've drawn a blank!!!!

You could also look at the 1988 event where one of these competed and was placed.

Female pilot.

[Ridge Runner]

You cannot be Sirius!!!!!

Edit: the Delasalle-Lesage 260???

http://www.abpic.co.uk/images/images/1116195M.jpg (javascript:popUp('/popup.php?q=1116195'))

[Ridge Runner]

sorry but it will have to be OH ... no internet at home ... still!!! :(

[skytrain10]

Delasalle-Lesage 260??? That's the one Martin:ok:. Was due to be flown by two times winner (including 1988 in a Sirius!) Catherine Maunoury at South Cerney in 1986, but the competition was cancelled. Eventually competed at the 1988 event and flown by another female pilot where it was placed 11th.

RR has declared Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8030/shotlm.jpg

edit: 24 to go Ken. :)

[Noyade]

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1550/twolayers.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/i/twolayers.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

That's a Curtiss, mate. Let me look in to it!

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme...looks like someone stuck a turboprop on the front of a P-40!

Morning Martin...guess we were thinking much the same.

[Noyade]

Morning gents. :)

It is a Curtiss. P-40 Ken, any chance of providing the "subtype?"

[Noyade]

If not, I'll accept P-40.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3381/guesse.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/i/guesse.jpg/)

[Noyade]

"subtype?"

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9880/jamesbondfilmsqs.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/jamesbondfilmsqs.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

which one was it, Graeme???

Edit: "Q"? Really????

Edit 2:

"
The P-40Q was an experimental project which attempted to produce a really modern fighter out of the existing P-40. The modifications were in fact so drastic that there was very little in common with earlier P-40 versions.

Two P-40Ks (serial numbers 42-9987 and 42-45722) and one P-40N (serial number 43-24571) were extensively modified with revised cooling systems, two-stage superchargers, and structural changes which markedly altered their appearance. The project was assigned the designation XP-40Q.

The first XP-40Q was P-40K-10-CU ser no 42-9987 fitted with a new cooling system, a longer nose, and a four-bladed propeller. The radiators were moved into an under-fuselage position, with intakes between the undercarriage legs.

The most prominent XP-40Q feature, used on 42-45722 and 43-24571, was the cutting down of the rear fuselage and the addition of a bubble canopy as on the "XP-40N". Later the wingtips were clipped. The result was an aircraft which bore almost no resemblance whatsoever to its parent P-40 line. The V-1710-121 engine was fitted with water injection, resulting in a power of 1425 hp. Speed increased to 422 mph at 20,500 feet, making it the fastest of all the P-40s. An altitude of 20,000 feet could be reached in 4.8 minutes, and service ceiling was 39,000 feet. Four 0.5-inch machine guns were carried by the prototypes. Wingspan was 35 feet 3 inches (after clipping), and length was 35 feet 4 inches (2 feet longer than the P-40N).

The proposed production models of the P-40Q were to have carried either six 0.50-inch machine guns or four 20-mm cannon, but the XP-40Q was still inferior to contemporary production Mustangs and Thunderbolts, and development was therefore abandoned. Consequently, the production life of the P-40 ended with the N version.

The second XP-40Q was briefly used for postwar air racing. Registered NX300B, the second XP-40Q was an unauthorized starter in the 1947 Thompson Trophy race. It was in fourth place when it caught fire and had to drop out of the race. "

I guess so!!!

[skytrain10]

Curtiss XP-40Q?

[Noyade]

which one was it, Graeme??? Well I was looking for XP-40Q.

Ken was closest with P-40, so all yours mate.

Skytrain10 has control.

Edit...I'm lost with the edit? Who was first?

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme but Martin was just there with the Q before me.

[Noyade]

Edit: "Q"? Really????

I believe so mate...

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7162/img044fz.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/img044fz.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Thanks Graeme but Martin was just there with the Q before me.

Your control Martin. :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks mate but it really is Ken's!

[skytrain10]

Thanks Martin....keeping to a similar era:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/daabc564.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Ken! Russian?????

[skytrain10]

Hi Ken! Russian????? Not Russian mate.

[Noyade]

French mate?

[Noyade]

Rogozarski IK-3?

[skytrain10]

Rogozarski IK-3? Nope
French mate? Yes:ok:

[Noyade]

Potez 230?

[Noyade]

Was that sword like object protruding from the leading edge of the vertical fin standard?
Many built?

[Noyade]

Arsenal?.........

[Ridge Runner]

the VG-36???

[skytrain10]

Potez 230? No.
Was that sword like object protruding from the leading edge of the vertical fin standard? Optical illusion...its protruding from the wing leading edge, not the tail. As for being standard, see my answer below:)
Many built? No...just one.
Arsenal?......... There's a Morecambe and Wise sketch there:) No, not Arsenal.

[Noyade]

Radial?
Bloch 700?

[skytrain10]

Bloch 700? Seemed appropriate in view of theme running through other challenges this morning:) Yes, it is the one-off Bloch MB.700:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/a27bbcbf.jpg

Noyade has control

[Noyade]

Ahh...thanks Ken, but I was just stabbing blindly and I have nothing in the silhouette bag, so open house. Cheers. :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

a quick one .... http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/acbcf9e1.jpg

[skytrain10]

A Morane Saulnier design?

[Ridge Runner]

No mate, not an M-S

[skytrain10]

Ok, but a fighter, yes?

[Ridge Runner]

it certainly was!

[skytrain10]

Roussel R.30?

[Ridge Runner]

that's the one, Ken! You have control!

[skytrain10]

Thanks Martin....next:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d7b982ff.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

the top side of an Arado?

Edit: a fighte, though, Ken???

[skytrain10]

Not an Arado Martin, but yes, it is another fighter.

[Ridge Runner]

European, right? Possibly eastern Europe?? I'm sure I've seen this before but as usual I can't dig it out of my old brain! :(

[skytrain10]

Eurpopean, yes, but not from Eastern Europe.

[Ridge Runner]

entered service?

[skytrain10]

entered service? Nope, only a prototype built and flown.

[Ridge Runner]

German, possibly?????

[Ridge Runner]

unfortunately I've got to go to see the gas man at home!!!! Sorry!!!!! And still no internet!!!!

[skytrain10]

German, possibly????? Not German, although they did capture it!

Have a good evening mate and catch you tomorrow:)

[evansb]

Arsenal design ?

[skytrain10]

Arsenal design ? Not an Arsenal, but you are in the right place.

[Lightning Mate]

Evening Ken. :)

First time available today. :\

Is this from Loire?

[evansb]

Potez 230 ?

[skytrain10]

Evening David - we missed you today.
Is this from Loire? Not a Loire product.

[skytrain10]

Potez 230 ? Yes, that's the one Bri, the Potez 230:ok: I was wondering how long this would last in light of earlier posts today:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/09f245dd.jpg

evansb has control

[evansb]

Thanks. Here is a 3-view silhouette challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120703.png

[skytrain10]

Looks as if it should be French...similar concept to the Potez 566. Clearly not the latter, but a French design?

[Noyade]

Greetings.
I think you have it mate

Funny thing Ken, I found this while looking for your Bloch last night.

Potez 56-T3...

France's Potez 56 reconnaissance - World War II Vehicles, Tanks, and Airplanes (http://www.wwiivehicles.com/france/aircraft/reconnaissance/potez-56-reconnaissance.asp)

Heading to work. :(

[skytrain10]

Umm, thanks Graeme. The photo's of the 566 or 56T3 reflect a much more streamlined design that the 3-view. However that 3-view is the same as your link so I am somewhat confused.

[evansb]

It is the Potez 56 T3. Noyade mentioned it first. He has control. As Noyade is heading to work, skytrain10 can have control to keep the thread moving.

[skytrain10]

Thanks evansb but I am closing down for the night, so make it Open House.

Good night and maybe catch you tomorrow at some point:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

G'day Oz. :)


....maybe catch you tomorrow at some point

Looks like it should now be yours because you're up and about and it's 1700 local time with you.

[Noyade]

you're up and about and it's 1700 local time with you. True, but it's cooking/drinking time now. :)

I did make this quickly though - GIMPed a line drawing. Light is on but pans are flying, so don't get upset if my response is slow.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1130/topgb.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/topgb.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Evening mate.

Wossat under the wing, lights or tanks?

Japanese?

[skytrain10]

Morning/Evening all.
First chance to look in - yes certainly has a Japanese look about it.
lights or tanks? Or floats?
Nothing obvious springs to mind, so time to have a little look.

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Kenfireworks.jpg

[Noyade]

Or floats?

Yes, floats. Not Japanese.

[Lightning Mate]

Saro Lerwick ?

[Noyade]

Saro Lerwick

That's the one mate.
Your control. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate - enjoy your meal and vino?

Not GIMP'd.......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/purple-1.jpg

[Noyade]

enjoy your meal and vino?Full and happy mate. :)

Loire-Nieuport 161....?

[skytrain10]

Not had the time to play this morning, but I reckon that's a good call Graeme.

And thanks for the fireworks David:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Many apologies gentlemen, but I lost PPrune at work and it looks permanent - I'll PM you all shortly, but I will not be able to play during the day. :mad:

Graeme has ID'd the challenge and has declared Open House.

[Noyade]

but I lost PPRuNe at work and it looks permanent

Dear oh dear. Time to join us mere mortals mate? :) Getting very clever these employers nowadays. Only had the internet very briefly at work once, but PPRuNe was stripped of it's images, replaced by white boxes with black borders. Kinda made the challenge identification hard. Then again, not much chance to even look. You'll have to learn to stay up later. :)

[Lightning Mate]

You'll have to learn to stay up later.

Nah mate - it's easier than that.

Quitting work at the end of this month.

Assuming you're back from work soon, are you taking your OH back?

[skytrain10]

All very quiet, so in the interest of keeping things moving here is a nice easy one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/f636114e.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

ATR42, Ken?

[skytrain10]

I lost PPRuNe at work and it looks permanent A good number of aviation related companies ban PPRuNe because of it's content. I guess your company has joined the list David?

Quitting work at the end of this month. Bit of a drastic solution...so is this retirement or have you a long sleeve shirt on today?:)

[skytrain10]

ATR42, Ken? That's the one Martin:ok: Courtesy of Observers Aircraft 1992:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/5eec1a12.jpg

Your control

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks mate!

Here you go ....

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/60498c06.gif

[skytrain10]

A twin boom glider? Project or built?

[Ridge Runner]

no, yes, no and yes!!!

[Noyade]

Bowlus XCG-7 or 8?

[Ridge Runner]

That's the one, Graeme, the Bowlus XCG-8. you have control!!!

http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/AE/AE72-6/319-1.jpg (http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/AE/AE72-6/319-1.jpg)

[Noyade]

Thanks Martin, but I just visited for a quick look before going to bed, so it must be open house. Cheers. :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

do yu have one, Ken? I do if not! :)

[skytrain10]

Go for it Martin:ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Here's one:

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/e8c958e7.jpg

[Karlark]

Lacab GR-8?

OH if correct.

[Lightning Mate]

'Artnoon. :)



Bit of a drastic solution...so is this retirement or.....

Not drastic at all mate - retirement.

However, to stop boredom setting in I'll find something to do. Anything which is not so stressful as this job. Possibly collecting/delivering cars for my sons' company - it's all high-end stuff.

...and there's always B&Q.....

edit: blimey Karlark!

[Ridge Runner]

Karl has it - the Belgian LACAB GR8 bomber - and has declared OPEN HOUSE again!!!!

http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/650702-2/500x289xBF201.pagespeed.ic.UHVKYqfY26.png

[Lightning Mate]

.........................:)

Since I can only play in the evenings:

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5707/evninall.jpg

[skytrain10]

Good to see you back with us:ok: High end stuff eh...so my old Subaru is out of the question then:)

Got one for us...?

[Lightning Mate]

Is that a thread NB failure Ken?

so my old Subaru is out of the question thenhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Gimme the model, year and mileage and I'll give you a price. :)

edit 2: standby for PM Ken....

[skytrain10]

Is that a thread NB failure Ken? ?

A LSA David...?

[Lightning Mate]

Not an LSA Ken.

PM for you.

[Ridge Runner]

what is the strange thing protruding fro under the rudder? It looks like a manx cat!!!!

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry mate - dunno wossit.

[skytrain10]

I'm presuming a recent design...within the last couple of years?

[Lightning Mate]

First flight early 90s.

Production wef 2008.

[skytrain10]

Mmm, that's a long time between first flight and production. Is this a Russian aircraft?

[skytrain10]

Yakovlev Yak-112?
(in which case its missing its port wing strut:))

[Lightning Mate]

(in which case its missing its port wing struthttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif)

I'm getting old mate!

Your thread Ken. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks David. I was scratching my head with that one...nothing to do with the wing strut!

Talking of struts, I apologise now if I have missed one:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/2e3111c0.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

:eek::eek:............

That has to be a home-built which is much younger than it looks.....

Talking of struts, I apologise now if I have missed onehttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

But whyssa one wheel a different size t'uther ? :E

[Karlark]

Looks like a Russian Ag machine.

(I gotta quit peeking in here :))

[skytrain10]

That has to be a home-built which is much younger than it looks..... Not a homebuild! Late 1990's design.
But whyssa one wheel a different size t'uther ? he he....but at least its got the right number:ok:
Looks like a Russian Ag machine. There's a good reason for that - it is:ok:

[Karlark]

Is it the OKB aeroprogress T-517 Farmer?

[skytrain10]

Is it the OKB aeroprogress T-517 Farmer? That's the one Karl:ok:

More details here:
T-517 Farmer agricultural plane, Khrunichev GNPTs (http://ram-home.com/ram-old/t-517.html)

Karlark has contol

[Karlark]

Thanks Ken. I have one to post this time! :) ;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/38-5.jpg

I'll be in transit for a while, will check back in later.

[Noyade]

Italian mate?

Possibly collecting/delivering cars for my sons' company - it's all high-end stuff.

I have a mental image of Dennis Waterman and Minder. :)

[MReyn24050]

I have a mental image of Dennis Waterman and Minder

Are you saying you picture David as Arthur Daley? :)

[Noyade]

Evening Mel. :)

Arthur Daley?

Yeah. He was the older guy, right? The shonky guy, always getting into trouble...? :)

[Karlark]

Not Italian but it is European.

[Noyade]

Rather sleek looking machine Karl. Military or Civil?

[Karlark]

There were only a few examples, one being a mailplane. The Germans changed the name in early WW2, although it is not a German aircraft.

[Noyade]

French?............

[Karlark]

Yessir.....

Edit to say: Yah :), and usual rules apply.

[Noyade]

Suppose to say 'Yah' Karl. :)