Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[SincoTC]

Good evening Karl,

Indeed, it is OO-AWA the 16HP Sergant engine powered Wielemans S.W.1 :D Well done!!

Karlark has Control :ok:

[Karlark]

Thanks Trevor. Here is an almost silhouette:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/34-12.jpg

[SincoTC]

That's great; I'm off to work now, sleep well :)

[Noyade]

Hi Karl. I was thinking French originally, but possibly from the USA?
Curtiss CS-1?

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5599/45curtisscs2longrangeso.jpg (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/45curtisscs2longrangeso.jpg/)

[Karlark]

Very close Graeme; the production model of the Curtiss CS was from a different manufacturer and the challenge is an improved version of that.

[sabredog]

Martin SC-1?

[Lightning Mate]

Possibly the Martin T3M

[Karlark]

Sorry for the delinquent reply... David has it with the Martin T3M :ok:, in this case; T3M-2 with the engine upgrade.

LM has control :).

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Karl.

Graeme did the spadework, so with due respect I feel it should be awarded to him.

Cheers.

[Karlark]

Your control Graeme. As LM indicates, you dug up the original; Curtiss CS in which the Martin T3M was based upon. :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Karl and LM. It's always good to lose and still win a prize. :)

An easy one in return then....

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7444/nielm.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/nielm.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Wild guess, the Convair XFY-1 Pogo.

[Noyade]

Hi Mel. Not the Pogo mate.

More...

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4650/img250pb.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/img250pb.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

It is the X15, here is the guy in the checked shirt.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/E-USAF-X-15-2-1.jpg

[Noyade]

Well done mate. :ok:

After landing they replaced the tyres with old ones to preserve them by preventing excessive wear when towing the X-15 away.

Your control Mel.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3880/img253s.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/img253s.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz14.jpg

[evansb]

Looks similar to the post-war Italian designed Colli PL2C Aerauto.
Is it a Luigi Pellarini design ? Perhaps the PL5C ?

[MReyn24050]

You have it Bri. It is a photograph of the Aerauto PL.5c designed by Eng. Pellarini.

You have control.

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. here is the next one:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Metric_Imperial.jpg

[sabredog]

GECI SK-105 Skylander ?

[evansb]

Yes, [I]sabredog[I] is correct.:ok: The proposed SK-105 Skylander. You have control.

[sabredog]

Many thanks,Brian.
The next challenge,a prototype, but not flown.
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/QUIZ167.jpg

[sycamore]

Something from Miles..?

[sabredog]

Not from the Miles factory,Sycamore.

[Noyade]

The Britten Sheriff?

[sabredog]

Correct,Graeme.
YHC.

[Noyade]

Thanks Terry.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2706/img254v.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/img254v.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Tut tut Graeme!

Putting it up on two sites eh!

I won't spoil the fun.....................

[MReyn24050]

Something French perhaps?

[Noyade]

Yes Mel - French.

[sabredog]

Gourdou-Leseurre GL.81?

[Noyade]

Not a Gourdou-Leseurre product Terry, although it has a similar layout to the GL.81, this is a slightly bigger machine with a closed cabin...

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7776/865hu.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/865hu.jpg/)

The French manufacturer is way down the alphabetical list.

[MReyn24050]

According to AviaFrance that is the Villiers 26 which never got off the ground/water.

[Noyade]

Well done mate. :ok:

Your control Mel. :)

the Villiers 26 which never got off the ground/water. Interesting....I never looked at the back of the card!

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/3006/img260w.jpg (http://img801.imageshack.us/i/img260w.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Graeme. Here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz15.jpg

[Noyade]

Looked at this briefly last night Mel. Fascinating - absolutely no idea mate.
And with each new unknown my first objective is to try and uncover the nationality behind it.

I want it to be British.
But, there is a USA sort of look to it as well?
And I hope it's not from South America.

[MReyn24050]

You do not have to worry Graeme. This aircraft was not designed and built in South America or North America come to that. It is from Europe but not the UK.

[Noyade]

It is from Europe

Big place that Europe.

Many built?

[MReyn24050]

Graeme. Go a bit east, only the prototype built. First flew late 1940s.

[sabredog]

Polish? An LWD product, Szpak-4A?

[MReyn24050]

That is the one Terry.:ok: The LWD Szpak 4A Szpak-4A was designed as an aerobatics plane. Only one prototype was built, flown on May 20, 1947. It had a steel fuselage frame rather than a wooden one, and a two-men side-by-side open cab. It was not certified as an aerobatics plane however, and was used by the factory as a utility plane in 1947–1948.

You have control

[sabredog]

Thank you,Mel, and my apologies for the delay in responding.
Sorry,but it is;
Open House.

[evansb]

This isn't AVIA QUIZ, but name this plane!:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/IDENTIFY_THE_AEROPLANE.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Strange looking bird. Must be from the USA with that engine.

[evansb]

Yes, it is an ugly American.

[sabredog]

Great Lakes XTBG-1 ?
If correct,Brian, it is "Open House".

[evansb]

Yes, Terrence is correct.:ok: OPEN HOUSE

[Karlark]

Open House.

[MReyn24050]

This one should not take long:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz16.jpg

[Noyade]

The Breguet Gyroplane mate?

Breguet G.IIE "Gyroplane" helicopter - development history, photos, technical data (http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/breguet_g-2.php)

[MReyn24050]

That is the one. You have control Graeme. :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Mel.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2297/img277e.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/img277e.jpg/)

[sabredog]

Bendix Model K/J, 1945?

[Noyade]

Well done Terry. :ok:
The Bendix Model K.

All yours mate.

Bendix Model K helicopter - development history, photos, technical data (http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/bendix.php)

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2130/bendix1.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/i/bendix1.jpg/)

[sabredog]

Many thanks,Graeme.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/QUIZ172-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

That will be the Alliance X.

[sabredog]

Indeed it is, LM.
YHC

[Lightning Mate]

Apologies Terrence - I just popped in to answer a technical PM.

Open House please.

[evansb]

Here is a small mystery:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/BUZZ_OR_HUMM.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Home built Bri? However, it has the look of a Rollason about it.

[evansb]

Yes, an amateur build plan. Not a Rollason, more of a single engine Cri Cri. As an option, the aircraft can be powered by an electric motor.

[MReyn24050]

The Luciole MC 30 perhaps?
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/luciole_pictures_LUCL_008_382x286.jpg

[evansb]

Yes, Mel, your are correct.:ok: Your turn. Here is a photo of an electric powered version:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/MC30E_Ph06GD1-1.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bri, I will admit your clue about a single engine Cri Cri helped.
Here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz18.jpg

[SincoTC]

Afternoon Mel,

Possibly a Savoia-Marchetti SM-88 ??

[MReyn24050]

Afternoon Trevor. It is indeed the Savoia Marchetti SM88
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/0ffe_1_402_1.jpg
You have control.

[SincoTC]

Thank you Mel,

That's a nice model, but it looks like the maker got the tail-wheel wrong, it should have one under each boom :8

Here's the next one, almost a silhouette :)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf256.jpg

Out and about this weekend, but will monitor as often as possible

[sabredog]

Austin-Ball A.F.B.1 ?

[SincoTC]

That's the one Terence, the Austin-Ball A.F.B.1 :D


The Austin-Ball A.F.B.1 (Austin Fighting Biplane) was a British fighter plane of World War I built by the Austin Motor Company with design input from Britain's leading fighter ace at the time, Albert Ball. Although trials with the prototype were on the whole excellent, and it could very probably have been developed into a useful operational type, the A.F.B.1 did not go into production, as both Austin's production capacity and its Hispano-Suiza engine were required for the S.E.5a.

Sabredog has control :ok:

[sabredog]

Many thanks,Trevor.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/QUIZ175.jpg

[Noyade]

The Schempp-Hirth Milan Terry. :)

[sabredog]

I have it as the Graf Von Saurma Milan,Graeme,but I am sure you are correct.
YHC.

[Noyade]

Thanks Terry. Open House.

[MReyn24050]

Here is an easy one to keep the thread moving:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz17.jpg

[sabredog]

Douglas Boston /A-20?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Douglas Boston A-20 Terry.

[Noyade]

The A-20G Havoc Mel?

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7973/douglasa20havoc051118f1.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/douglasa20havoc051118f1.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Sorry Graeme but this one is not the A-20G Havoc.

[sabredog]

Is there an echo in here?

[evansb]

Douglas DB-7 ?

[Karlark]

To cover all the bases; Douglas P-70?

Edit; or a Douglas A-26? Douglas at all? :)

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft is not of Douglas manufacture.

[VX275]

Is it a Martin B36 then?

OH if correct

[Noyade]

Is it from the USA Mel?
Tricycle gear?

To me the vertical tail leading edge looks curved - ruling out the Marauder? Hard to tell how far away the turret is from the tail/fuselage join.
Is it possible side blisters are occluded from the shot and it's the Consolidated Privateer?

Just a guess.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8582/img295t.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/img295t.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Gentlemen, my sincere apologises :\. My source "Luftfahrt International" included the photograph in an article on the Martin B26 Marauder Aircraft. Taking up Graeme's points and checking with the full photograph it is of course the Douglas A20 Havoc. Sabredog clearly identified the aircraft as the Douglas A20 at post # 10575 therefore the accolade should go to him. Many thanks Graeme :ok: it has taught me to check and double check ones sources and not take them at face value :=.
Douglas A20 Havoc:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/DouglasBostonA20Havoc.jpg

Martin B26 Marauder:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/b-26-martin-1.jpg

You have control Terry.

[sabredog]

Thank you,Mel, but I am more than happy to let Graeme have this one,especially after his excellent sketch.
Over to you Graeme.

[Noyade]

Thanks gents. Easily done Mel - caption people can be deliberately misleading! :)

Easy one in return then, and not on your list Mel. Can't monitor it, so please move on once you identify it. Cheers.

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/7710/img298r.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/img298r.jpg/)

[sabredog]

B-26 Martin Marauder?

[MReyn24050]

I would say based on this evidence you have it Terry:-


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/B-262043-3458120-201.jpg

[sabredog]

Many thanks,Mel;
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/quiz178-1.jpg

[evansb]

It looks like the Danish KZ-XI..

[sabredog]

That is correct,Brian.
YHC

[evansb]

Identify this one:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WHAT_PLANE.jpg

[sabredog]

Boeing KB-29P Tanker. Boom operators position.

[evansb]

Correct sabredog :ok: You have control.

[sabredog]

Thank you,Brian.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz181.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day Terry.

I can't find a precise name for this, but the internet keeps referring to it as the Oblique Wing Research Aircraft built by NASA?

NASA - Oblique Wing Research Aircraft (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/multimedia/imagegallery/OWRA/E-30804.html)

[sabredog]

That is the one,Graeme, and the name is correct also.
I had hoped the cropping might have made the identification a little more difficult!
YHC

[Noyade]

Thanks Terry. I remembered the NASA AD-1 and personally call it a swivel wing but oblique wing starts the fireworks with google showing many examples.

I'll follow on from Mel and try another gunner with the "determined look"...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/520/img302c.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/img302c.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Looks similar to the Kawaaaki Ki-48 installation

[zlin77]

Junkers JU 86?

[Noyade]

Ki-48 installation

Googled that - it does look similar! But not a Jap.

Welcome zlin - not a Junkers mate.

[MReyn24050]

Is this aircraft from the USA? There appears to be a step change in the fuselage contours forward of the retractable gun platform similar to the Martin Maryland/Baltimore. Another aircraft that had a retractable ventral gun was the Vultee V-11 but that aircraft did not have such a step change.

[Noyade]

Morning Mel!

Vultee V-11 It is this machine according to the caption.

but that aircraft did not have such a step change. Can't honestly say, maybe the photo was an early mock-up?

Either way mate - your control. :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Graeme. A very interesting challenge. Here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz19d.jpg

[Karlark]

Siebel Si 204 Mel?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Siebel Si 204, Karl.

[Karlark]

SNCAC NC.701 Martinet?

[MReyn24050]

Not the SNCAC NC.701 Martinet either I am afraid Karl.

[Karlark]

Ok, one last guess then I give up; Caproni Ca 313?

[MReyn24050]

You have it Karl.:ok::D The Caproni Ca 313 it is.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/ca_313_b16a_1943_20satenas_f7-1.jpg

[Karlark]

Whew.. almost 3 strikes. Thanks Mel :)

This is all I could scrounge up in short order:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/31-5.jpg

Edit; Here's more of the image:
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/38-9.jpg

[Noyade]

This is all I could scrounge up in short order:Good scrounge! :)

A job for Aerofiles mate?

(Mel - what happened to your "Vengeance-looking" challenge?)

[Karlark]

Yes, you can find this aircraft in Aerofiles, maybe. :)

[MReyn24050]

Noyade wrote:- (Mel - what happened to your "Vengeance-looking" challenge?)

It was too easy to find by a simple bit of Google action.:)

[irishair2001]

Karlak, is the American Pilgrim 100-A :hmm:

[Karlark]

It is not the Pilgrim 100, Irishair. This aircraft was from a little earlier; mid 1920s.

[ICT_SLB]

Travelaire "Woolaroc" now on display at the museum of the same name near Bartlesville, OK
The first aircraft to fly to Hawaii in the Dole Air Race. As I'm only a couple of hours north of its current location, I'm afraid I'll be asleep when the UK resumes so OH.
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/20374573.jpg

[Karlark]

That's perfectly right! :ok::D

ICT has declared Open House

[MReyn24050]

Open House?
This one will not take long:-

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz20a.jpg

[Noyade]

Hi Mel.
I'll start the ball rolling.
They look short - Japanese?
Mitsubishi Ki-2?

[MReyn24050]

You have it the Mitsubishi Ki-2 :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/2008032022143821Mitsubishi_Ki-2.jpg
You have control

[Noyade]

Thanks Mel - sorry, but open house at the moment.

[Noyade]

Found one....

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5810/img317c.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/img317c.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Graeme. Is it for real or just a mock up? That tail rotor looks really ineffective.

[evansb]

Indeed. No intakes, vents or exhaust visible either. Background forest looks nordic.

[Noyade]

I believe it's real Mel. Flew in the early nineties and powered by reaction motors using Hydrogen Peroxide as fuel. Most of the flight testing was carried out in Switzerland, a place called San Vittore (see below), but the photo above shows the pre-production prototype prior to shipping at Newport News, Virginia.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5186/img320k.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/img320k.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

That will be the Atlas Rocket Helicopter Swiss Copter then. That tail rotor looks so ineffective.

[Noyade]

That will be the Atlas Rocket Helicopter Swiss Copter then.

Done! :ok:

I believe the author Mike Spick had some involvement in the project.

Your control mate.

[MReyn24050]

Your clue helped. I was not looking for a real flyer I was convinced that the first picture showed a mock up. Good challenge Graeme. :ok:
Here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz21.jpg

[Noyade]

Fighter?
British?
Hawker Hornbill?

[MReyn24050]

You are also on a roll Graeme. Hornbill it is .:ok:
You have control.

[Noyade]

Just lucky mate. Actually, I was thinking it might have been the Saro fighter based on your flying-boat cockpit hunt.

Must leave you now, heading to work. Cheers Mel. :ok:

Should be easy?....

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7241/img325ad.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/img325ad.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Interesting challenge Graeme. An aircraft with "ventral cabane struts" similar to the Bristol Fighter and Bristol Tourer aircraft. Is this from the USA?

[MReyn24050]

The Vickers 141 perhaps?

[Noyade]

The Vickers 141

Well done mate! Sorry for the delay. :ok:
Your control Mel.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Graeme here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz21a.jpg

[Noyade]

I'm thinking Czech?
Letov S-328?

[MReyn24050]

You are thinking correctly. It is the Letov S328.
You have control.

[Noyade]

Thanks Mel. I'll make it open house for the time being. Cheers.

[MReyn24050]

Another Open House. Try this one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz23_zpsf7b8ad4f.jpg

[sabredog]

AVIS AVIS I-III ?

[MReyn24050]

It is the AVIS III. :ok: You have control Terry.

[sabredog]

Thank you,Mel, a mere fluke in finding that one I am afraid.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz175_zps9cf92282.jpg

[one11]

Short SB.1

Used to be regular here but drifted away due to combination of lack of silhouettes and Photobucket issues. Latter seems OK now so should be able to avoid OH if correct but can somebody clarify what , if any , the new rules are ???

[MReyn24050]

Latter seems OK now so should be able to avoid OH if correct but can somebody clarify what , if any , the new rules are ???

Welcome back One11. No strict rules anymore. The challenge can be a silhouette, photograph of complete aircraft or a cropped photograph, similar to those used on AviaQuiz. We try not to cut across the other Challenge thread that concentrates on intakes & exhausts. I still maintain the list in order to avoid too many duplications. The other rule is once the challenge poster has agreed with the answer the winner posts the next challenge.

[sabredog]

That is correct,one11.
You have control.

[one11]

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune190912_zps16f917a5.jpg

...after a couple of false starts with stuff already in Mels list.

[Noyade]

Evening one11, and welcome back - but probably you never really left? :)

Is it British?
de Havilland DH-50?

[one11]

Is it British?
de Havilland DH-50?[

Yes a DH.50 although this one was Czech built by Aero. You have control Graeme

[Noyade]

Thanks mate. Didn't expect that.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1155/img328z.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/img328z.jpg/)

[Karlark]

PWS-26 with mid WW2 Romanian roundel?

[Noyade]

Well done Karl. The old Polish with Romanian markings trick didn't fool ya!

Your control. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

[Karlark]

Thanks Graeme. The ol' Polish aircraft with Romanian markings trick, eh?:)

Here's the next:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/31_zps3b67b829.jpg

[one11]

Douglas O-43 ?

[Karlark]

Hello one11,

It is Douglas but not the O-43. (So very close, though).

[one11]

not the O-43. (So very close, though).
So maybe O-46 then ?

[Karlark]

Yes, the O-46 is the one. :ok: Your control.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/Douglas_O-46_zps720d9301.jpg

[one11]

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune210912crop_zps93219205.jpg

One for the night shift and/or other time zones

[evansb]

Douglas Model 1015 Cloudster II ?

[Karlark]

I'll second the Douglas Cloudster 2, evansb.

Based on: Douglas Cloudster II - transport (http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/douglas_cloudster-2.php) ;

YHC

[evansb]

Thank you. Identify this aircraft:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WHAT_PLANE.jpg

[Karlark]

Looks Italian...

[evansb]

It does, but it is not Italian.

[Noyade]

From the USA Brian?

[evansb]

Yes, it is from the U.S.A.

[one11]

Just to confirm that Evansb has correctly taken control by naming the Cloudster II

[Karlark]

Looks like the Emsco B-5 above.


one11; I hope you didn't mind that I confirmed the Cloudster II last night to get another SC up.

[evansb]

Karlark is correct.:ok: It is the Emsco B-5. You have control.

[one11]

No problem Karlark. But when I last used to hang around this thread some people used to get upset about "thread rules"...............

[Karlark]

Technically I think that there's suppose to be 2 separate confirmations when the OP is not available... I guess I used the web link as the 2nd :oh:

In any case, thanks evansb & one11; here is the next SC:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/34_zps1f4feb4c.jpg

[sabredog]

Allied Trimmer Light Amphibian Flying-boat?

[Karlark]

It went by a few different names, and that was one of them :ok:.

Sabredog has control.

[sabredog]

Thank you,Karlark.
Open House

[Noyade]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9525/img343z.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/img343z.jpg/)

[Noyade]

It's British.

[SincoTC]

Evening Graeme,

Is it the Surrey Flying Services AL.1 ??

I can only find a photo showing it in a very dilapidated state, but some of the features seem to fit :)

[MReyn24050]

I would say you were spot on Trevor
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/AL1_zps9e026607.jpg

From Flight 1930.

[Noyade]

Is it the Surrey Flying Services AL.1 ??

Yes indeed Trevor. Your control mate. :ok:

[SincoTC]

Thanks Graeme,

I thought that you would be back before you hit the sack at around my lunch break :)

And thank you too Mel :ok:. I used to check the "Fright Archives" regularly, but since I changed my browser to Chrome, it wont display the PDF pages and my IE at work is broken and I didn't have the time to delve!

Here is the next almost a silhouette!!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf257_zps0f3b0e40.jpg

[SincoTC]

May I make this rather belated welcome back to the thread to one11 :ok:

You are quite right, the rules have changed since you last were a regular and there was at times some angst over the (unwritten) rules!! I an effort to help new players, skytrain10 collated an agreed set of ""Guidelines" and these can be found on the AH&N main page as a "Sticky" under the "What Cockpit and What Aerodrome latest lists".

The basic principles and intentions remain the same, but with a dwindling numbers of players, many of whom are in far-flung parts of the world, it seemed rather silly to "Stall" the thread for many hours when an answer could easily be verified by another member and seconded by a third; in recent times, even this has relaxed a bit, so that the last stage can be replaced by an incontrovertible web link or similar. Also the silhouette only requirement has been relaxed, so that is probably more like it was when you played before! :)

[sabredog]

The Player Sport Aircraft?

[SincoTC]

Well done Terrence, it is indeed the Player Sport from the USA :D

Player Sport 1940, 65hp Continental A-65; span: 30'0" length: 19'0" v: 95/87/x. Wing modified from a Long Longster, tail from a Curtiss-Wright Junior. Fuselage was of geodetic basket-weave construction. Original motor was 50hp Dayton Ford conversion. Canopy cockpit. Still flying in the 1960s [N21778].

sabredog has control :ok:

[sabredog]

Thank you Trevor. It took a little digging to find that one, excellent challenge.
Although not in the same of league,here is the next.
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz_zps2ed38f9f.jpg

[Noyade]

Thought it might have been an early Tupolev, but William Green (yes, I have the gift) tells me it's probably the IAR-14?

[Noyade]

Best make it open house if it is Terry. Cheers.

[sabredog]

That is correct,Graeme. It is the IAR-14
Noyade has declared;
Open House.

[MReyn24050]

Open House? Try this one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz24_zps66732fe3.jpg

[ICT_SLB]

The Culver Cadet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culver_Cadet) aka PQ8 when it became a radio controlled drone? In the extremely unlikely event that I've scored twice in two weeks after being mystified for many years, I'll have to declare OH owing to time shift.

[MReyn24050]

This one is not the Culver Cadet ITC_SLB.

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon Mel,

Looks like VW power? French?

[MReyn24050]

Good Afternoon Trevor. The engine is indeed a VW and the aircraft was built in France.

[SincoTC]

Good evening Mel,

I'm pretty certain that I have identified the challenge aircraft as one first flown n 1962!

However, and I hope you don't mind, as I have to attend an open ended family gathering this evening, I'm reluctant to declare another open house and so I will withhold my answer in the hope that someone else will be able to join the dots to provide the answer (and put up another challenge) :ok:

I'l check in when the party's over and see what's happened! :)

[evansb]

Is it per chance the Nicollier HN-433 Menestrel ?

[MReyn24050]

It is indeed the Nicollier HN-433 Menestrel :ok:, as SincoTC said it first flew in 1962. 12 November 1962 to be exact.
You have control Bri.

[evansb]

Thank you Mel. Identify this aircraft:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120924A.jpg

[Noyade]

Seen this before - somewhere. Douglas/Curtiss?

[evansb]

Not Douglas, but Curtiss..

[SincoTC]

I think that was the Curtiss-Wright CW-32 ??

[evansb]

SincoTC is correct.:ok: You have control.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Brian; a good challenge :ok:,

here's the next mystery aircraft; a sporty little number for the early hours of the day!!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf258.jpg

[Noyade]

The Belgian Sport?

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5482/img0025jm.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/img0025jm.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Yes mate, well found :D, my sporty little number (20) for the early morning (AM), but I bet you didn't need my clues with your collection of books :ugh:

It is the Mulot AM.20 Sport from Belgium

Noyade has control :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4811/img348e.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/img348e.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

That looks like the Dyle et Bacalan DB-10 ??

[Noyade]

Dyle et Bacalan DB-10

Well done Trevor. Your control. :ok:

[SincoTC]

Thanks Graeme,

A bit stuck for time at the moment; 'tiz gone midnight and another early start tomorrow, luckily, this one isn't on Mel's list, si I'll have to use it here :)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf259.jpg

[SincoTC]

Good morning World :),

Does look cold there doesn't it; quite possibly it was taken on a frozen lake!!

Off to work now, catch you later :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Looks a bit of a hybrid to me, Trevor.:)

[SincoTC]

Thanks Mel, :ok:

I was about to give another clue anyway, but I'll add to my chilly reference earlier this morning to say that it's from Northern Europe and that it incorporated features from several well-known types of aircraft of the time and as a result, it was given a rather derogatory nickname, to which you have given the more polite translation!! :)

[evansb]

Swedish M.1 ?

[SincoTC]

Swedish M.1 ?

It is Swedish, but not an M.1, it has no type or designation, just its designer's name plus that of a bird (or another "nickname") as mentioned in my reply to Mel :)

[SincoTC]

It seems some additional clues are in order!

Powered by a 50 hp Gnome engine.

it made its maiden flight in the spring of 1914. During the summer the aircraft was used in a marketing campaign for a famous Swedish toothpaste!!

At the outbreak of WWI, the aircraft was sold to the Swedish Army Aviation and used as a trainer and as a target aircraft. In 1916, the aircraft was taken out of service.

Off to bed now, happy searching :ok:

[Karlark]

I'll bite on that Fjällbäck Bastarden. :}

[SincoTC]

Morning Karl,

No swearing now :=

Yes; it is the The Fjällbäck Näktergalen (Nightingale) Aka ”Bastarden”

"A young aviator and engineer educated by Blériot in France, Lars Fjällbäck, designed in 1913 an aircraft which got the name ”Näktergalen” (Nightingale). It was manufactured at Svenska Aeroplanfabriken, a small enterprise owned by Fjällbäck and his friends Tord Ångström, Allan Jungner and Gösta von Porat. All of these four young men made later careers in the Swedish military and civil aviation.

Fjällbäck's design made its maiden flight in the spring of 1914. Test pilot was Tord Ångström. During the summer the aircraft was used for in marketing campaign for a famous Swedish toothpaste. When the WWI broke out in August, the aircraft was sold to the Swedish Army Aviation in 1914 and used as a trainer and as a target aircraft. The common name of the aircraft was ”Bastarden”, in English ”the Hybrid”, because it incorporated features from several well-known types of contemporary aircraft. In 1916, the aircraft was taken out of service due to wear."


Karlark has control :ok:

[Karlark]

Thanks Trevor. Good hybrid challenge :).

Edit: Challenge withdrawn.... not able to monitor the rest of the weekend. I'll put it back up later. Cheers.

Open House

[evansb]

Name this design proposal that went no further:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Untitled_Design.jpg

[Noyade]

Jolly Jumbucks! - a Wallaby?

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9076/img352g.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/img352g.jpg/)

[evansb]

Crikey mate! Too right! Good on'yah!:ok: You've control!

(Yes, it is indeed the Australian CAC design proposal for a post-war DC-3 replacement feeder-liner, that failed to generate interest, even after a re-design with more powerful engines.)

[Noyade]

Thanks Brian. :)

Hopping along....

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7821/img355g.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/img355g.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Evening Graeme,

Hopping along....

Well, it looks a bit Blackburnish but their Kangaroo it isn't!!

The Ripon looks close but the elevators are wrong!

It's got Roundels though, 'tiz British innit, or is it French??

[Noyade]

Good morning Trevor.

Logic above is all good. Blackburn it is, but not the Ripon....

[SincoTC]

How about a Blackburn T2 Dart ??

[Noyade]

Blackburn T2 Dart

Lovely, well done mate! :ok:

Your control. :)

(I'm off to cook tea mate)

[SincoTC]

Thanks Graeme,

another three-view!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf260.jpg

[SincoTC]

Coffee break and time for a clue.

European and from the mid thirties!

[irishair2001]

Good Evening Sinco,is it the Polish RWD-5 ?

[SincoTC]

Good evening irishair, nice to see you again :)

I'm sorry; it's not Polish!

[SincoTC]

Another clue to narrow it down a bit; it was powered by a Walter-Major engine

[Lightning Mate]

Sabca S.20 Libelulle

[SincoTC]

Good morning LM :)

Sabca S.20 Libelulle

That's the one mate :D

Sabca's chief-engineer Robert Servais designed the eye pleasing Sabca S.20 "Libelulle" which was powered by a Walter-Major engine of 120 hp. The machine was registered OO-APU on 26 August 1935 and is seen here at Haren airfield in the late thirties. Unfortunately this lovely aircraft disappeared during the second World War.



http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/S20_OOAPU.jpg

Lightning Mate has control :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Photobucket inoperative.

OH.

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/blue_zps5407ec5a.jpg

[one11]

Supermarine F.7/30 ???

If correct OH as not able to monitor for 24hrs +

[Lightning Mate]

Hello 111. :)

This was not a British aeroplane.

[MReyn24050]

Blohm and Voss Ha 137 perhaps?

[Lightning Mate]

No perhaps about it Mel.

Your thread. :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Thank you David. Here is the next challenge:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airquiz25.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Well 24 hours since posting so I thought I would check to see if any movement.

[SincoTC]

Morning Mel :)

Funny, just had the same idea, been too busy at work to search much, pretty narrow wing here, inter war years aerobatic ? Eastern European?

Edit: maybe I needn't check too many countries!

[MReyn24050]

Morning Trevor
Certainly East European and had aerobatic qualitie but post WWII. As you say not too many countries to check.

[Karlark]

Good Afternoon Mel,

Based on your clues I believe it is the Rublič R-7 Racek?

Open House if correct.

[MReyn24050]

Hi Karl. Sorry for the delay. That is the one the Rublič R-7 Racek. You have Control.

[Karlark]

Thanks Mel. I do have a couple up my sleeve :) but will not be able to monitor the thread over the weekend.

Open House

[SincoTC]

Have a good weekend Karl, that was a good find to a good challenge from Mel :ok:

Here's an AQ style challenge to keep things moving!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf261_zps5a1f30a1.jpg

[one11]

Potez 63.11 ???

[SincoTC]

Oh well, that didn't last long did it, but at least it got the thread moving again :)

No need for the question marks one11, it is indeed the French Potez 63.11 :D


Potez 630 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez_630)

one11 has control :ok:

[one11]

Thanks SincoTC. The thread must go on...........

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune051012.jpg

[Noyade]

American?
Keystone?
Pathfinder?

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8559/4590502598b2c552df71z.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/4590502598b2c552df71z.jpg/)

[ICT_SLB]

Graeme,
I'm sure you're right - my source (http://bayourenaissanceman.********.com/2008/05/weekend-wings-18-struggle-to-conquer.html) states it was re-engined with three Wright Whirlwind J-5s just before it stalled in a turn while on a test flight carrying a fuel load intended to get it across the Atlantic. The subsequent crash killed its crew of Commander Noel Davis and Lieutenant Stanton Wooster of the US Navy.
Your picture shows part of the aircraft's name & sponsor "American Legion".
Congratulations!
John C.

P.S. My link will not work unless you include the magic word bl*gsp*t in place of the asterisks.