Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[buttrick]

B*gger, that means I need a silhouette. I shall try and do a quick one, but OH unless I get there first.

[buttrick]

Got one:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/494/x23wz.jpg


Off to work at 14:00 GMT+3, so if no answer by then OH on a replacement.

[Noyade]

Off to work at 14:00 GMT+3,

G'day mate. Not sure what that means in Oz time. Do I need to hurry? Too early for a clue?

[Noyade]

British? Supermarine Dumbo?

[buttrick]

British yes. Dumbo no.

Sydney is GMT+10

[skytrain10]

Morning...Heston Phoenix I?

[buttrick]

The Phoenix it is, overto you Skytrain. Incidentally as a schoolkid Iflew on two demonstration flights with Freddie Laker on his new DC-10s in the early 70's. One just a local flight jolly and the other to Berlin, where we had a coach tour of East Berlin passing through the infamous Checkpoint Charlie.

[skytrain10]

Thanks buttrick. My first experience of Laker was also when I was at school...field trip to Majorca in 1975 if I recall. That was also on a Laker DC10. Loved it so much that 2 years later I started working for them!

Give me 20 mins or so to prep the next one.

[skytrain10]

Next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/c4f46b9e.jpg

[diesel addict]

Parnall 382 ??

If correct OH

[skytrain10]

Good call diesel addict, it is indeed the Parnall 382:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/7042e975.jpg

diesel addict has declared Open House

[Noyade]

Evening. Here's another...

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/650/kenh.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/i/kenh.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

Hi all!!! Happy NY!!

The Super Galeb, Graeme?

OH if correct.

RR

[Noyade]

G'day Martin. Happy New Year to you.

But you were suppose to say BAe Hawk. :(:)

Open House.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3228/img332w.jpg (http://img831.imageshack.us/i/img332w.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

As its OH, here's one to think about:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/f2bd4bd1.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

This one looks very much like an Indonesian project? Related to the CN235/295????

[skytrain10]

Hi Martin, not from Indonesia mate and no connection with the CN235/295.

[Ridge Runner]

OK. a Shorts project then?

[skytrain10]

Not a Shorts Martin, but it is a project, albeit that work did apparently commence on the prototype.

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken,

Just got in and find my connection is working again, (not wonderfully fast though). So I had a quick look at the Fright Archive with a one word search and found a three-view of the American Bromon BR-2000; it's not a perfect match as the wingtips, flap splits, cockpit windows and front of the U/C sponsons are different, but seeing as the project was still under development, I'm going to stop looking now and bugger off into the kitchen, (I suppose it could be an unbuilt BR-1000 as the one I found looks later than yours) :) !

[skytrain10]

Bromon BR-2000 it is Trevor...well done:ok: The wings on the 3-view do vary depending on where you look. I actually found it in an Observers Book of Aircraft, then went to see if it was on the web. Good article to be found here:
1989 | 0231 | Flight Archive (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1989/1989%20-%200231.html)
Sadly the project was cancelled a few months after this article, allegedly due to no firm orders. Not quite the level of interest anticipated by its designers!

SincoTC has control.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken; that link was where I found the drawing (on the next page, where my "one word" was located).

I then had a quick look on Aerofiles and it would have been one of those perfect challenges, with the Bromon entry having no mention at all of this project and only a passing reference to the Ahrens 404 project and that was misspelt!!

I'll put something up shortly (as kitchen duties permit) :)

[SincoTC]

Here 'tiz then, apologies for quality (lack-of that is), done in a bit of a hurry!!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC-wtf184.jpg

[skytrain10]

Strange looking machine....French homebuild?

[SincoTC]

'Tiz strange innit! I thought it might be one of those things that once seen, always remembered (if only you could remember where you'd seen it) :E!!

Not homebuilt and not French :)

[skytrain10]

Broke off to watch TV....thinking about it there is something familiar about this...not sure it was on the internet though. American?

[SincoTC]

American?

Yes, and somewhat like your last one, you won't find it on Aerofiles :)

[skytrain10]

Yes, and somewhat like your last one, you won't find it on Aerofiles Mmm, but presumably from the US?

[SincoTC]

Hmm; if I'd said like your last one it would be, but I didn't ;)

[skytrain10]

Going to leave this one for the nightshift...found what I thought it was in a book, but it's not quite right - the plus is I have now inadvertently found a US aircraft that appears not to be in Aerofiles :)

Over to Graeme, Brian or anyone else who may be lurking

Night night

[SincoTC]

the plus is I have now inadvertently found a US aircraft that appears not to be in Aerofiles

:uhoh:, but then, it is like your last one!!

Sleep well :ok:

[Noyade]

I'm 99% sure that Brian posted this some time ago, but I can't find it on Mel's list?

The Argentine Tucan T-1. I remember being fooled by the reflection of the light on the fuselage of the photo seen in Jane's 46 edition.

But then, I'm easily fooled. :)

Back to the cricket.

[SincoTC]

'Artnoon Graeme,

I can't find it on Mel's list? But then, I'm easily fooled.

It is the Turbay Tucan T-1 :D If it's there we've both been fooled, but I can't find it on SC or WC lists either, I did wonder about getting rid of that reflection but was too lazy and wanted my supper :*!!

The Tucan T-1 was an Argentine single-engined single-seat light touring monoplane designed by Alfredo Turbay and built by Sociedad Anonima Sfreddo & Paolini. Here's a later production one sans sliding hood and spats,

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/Tucan.jpg

Noyade has Control :ok: (be teatime soon)

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor.

about getting rid of that reflectionYou misunderstand me mate. :)

Some time ago (I think) I was looking for THAT tail (I was certain Brian had it as a challenge) and I bypassed this image because the light played with the shape...

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2189/img336l.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/img336l.jpg/)

That's the only reason why I went back to it. All in my mind? Maybe I should see a gerontologist?

What I am going to see tonight though (fortunately/unfortunately?) is the Tin Tin 3D movie with the youngest son. :(:)?

Open House.

[SincoTC]

Hi Graeme,

I just had a search on the actual thread over breakfast and Brian did post the Tucan last February and you got it!! A rare omission from Mel's list!

Seems like you had a good match to watch (wot no work ;)) and a Movie tonight at the hight of summer you lucky sod, hope you enjoy it, we'll expect a full report :ok: As Graeme said it is an Open House

[Ridge Runner]

Nice one Trevor!

Try this ...

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune040112.jpg

[SincoTC]

'Artnoon Martin,

Coffee time, I'm out in the workshop at the moment and just keeping an eye on my Challenge really, but I'll be thinking about your SC :), a bit quiet innit!

Is it a twin pusher?? First thoughts were for a WWI period bomber, but can't see much in the way of armament!

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Trevor! Happy NY! Its not a bomber, mate. It was a single motor and tractor. :)

[SincoTC]

I hope you have a good 2012 too mate!

Hmm, a tractor eh; so where does the unseen prop relate to the flat front end, is that end a large truncated spinner, or is that the shape of the engine cowl and the prop comes out of the flat part?

As always, I've seen that tail somewhere before :confused:, is it a Yank and is it WWI or soon after?

[Ridge Runner]

Ah ha... It was a single motor driving two tractor props. It was WW1 era. Not a yank. M

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry mate but I need to race off home now.. I'll try to get back on later. as always, if you get it and someone ese agrees you can carry on ... ;) RR

[SincoTC]

Ah ha indeed, that explains it :ok:, I'm off home soon too! catchya later maybe.

[SincoTC]

Home now and time for a quick look before kitchen duties.

I have found the E.A.C. Tractor Seaplane (AKA Circuit Tractor No5) in the Fright Archives and it looks pretty convincing to me!

round britain | britain machines | fuselage | 1914 | 0913 | Flight Archive (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200913.html?search=drives)

1914 | 0914 | Flight Archive (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1914/1914%20-%200914.html)

[Noyade]

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/845/9131w.jpg (http://img861.imageshack.us/i/9131w.jpg/)

E.A.C. Tractor Seaplane (AKA Circuit Tractor No5)
if you get it and someone ese agrees you can carry on

By the powers invested in me, I dub thee, Trevor of Minehead Somerset, the winner.
Arise Sir Trevor and present thy challenge.

(Just bloody glad you found it! :))

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

Thanks mate, Off to work soon or more cricket, Captains old and new dun well eh :ok:

I'll get another one up shortly, in the meantime my Challenge is still waiting for you! If you look where "they" often found their subjects, you'll find it on the first page of the search (with the right search string and I've already given that) :)

[Noyade]

Captains old and new dun well eh http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

Yes they did mate. :)

Off to work soon or more cricket

Got a few days off. Why not pop over, put your feet up, have a few beers, watch Clarke make 300 and we can talk about engine test-beds? I'll leave the door open.

[SincoTC]

I'm on the way mate :ok:

Try this one to be going on with while I cremate supper :)!!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC-wtf185.jpg

[TheiC]

Hmmm, first I thought: easy, that's the Beagle Bassett. No. The SIAI Marchetti S.210? Not that either...

Eastern European?

[SincoTC]

Hi TheiC,

You're correct, it's none of those and it's not from the eastern end :)

[Noyade]

it's none of thoseBut it is Italian?

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4925/img338.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/img338.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

It is indeed Italian and is the Pasotti F.6 Airone :D


The F in the designation of the Pasotti built F.6 Airone stood for its designer, Stelio Frati, who was responsible for several fast light wooden aircraft powered by either piston or turbine engines. The Airone (Heron in English) was a low-winged, twin piston engine driven, four seater. It was intended as a general light four seater for private or executive use, or as an air ambulance.

The prototype was powered by two flat 4-cylinder Continental C90 engines of 90 hp (67 kW) each, driving fixed pitch propellers. Production aircraft would have been powered by two 105 hp (78 kW) Walter Minor IV inverted inline engines with variable pitch airscrews.

Noyade has control :ok:

[TheiC]

That'll teach me to assume that a silhouette with tip tanks refers to an aircraft with tip tanks!

Still, I was close with the Frati link. Something classic about those lines.

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor.

TheiC (http://www.pprune.org/members/377492-theic)

G'day mate! Would you like to put a challenge up?

[TheiC]

Bit late here, just off to bed. Maybe next time?

[Ridge Runner]

Well done Trevor!!! Yes, the EAC Hydroplane

RR

[Noyade]

Maybe next time?

OK. Rain-check. :ok:

In the meantime....

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/170/img339.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/img339.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Sorry TheIC, I was just preparing a post to say that the drawing showed tip tanks and that I don't know if they were ever fitted and a bit about the designer when Noyade pounced!!

[Noyade]

Noyade pounced

And you swoop!

[Ridge Runner]

Yugoslav, mate? SOKO 522? If so OH! :)

[SincoTC]

'Artnoon Martin :),

Just looking in at coffee time!

I recon that's a good call mate :D; the 3-view at the link below looks the same as Graeme's drawing, (although it has the old Ikarus name rather than Soko), but 'tiz the same innit!
Otvoreni maketarski forum :: Vidi temu - Soko 522 (http://www.maketarstvo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16422&sid=6503c0a78d40c5f4189074dc5f984d9c)

As it's only just after 2am in Murrumbidgee, Graeme won't be back for several hours yet and as players are a bit thin on the ground, Im sure he would want us to carry on with a seconder (like you did last night)! Therefore, I think you should take the win and declare an OH if that's still what you want!

Edit: Round objects!!! RR's light has just gone out :ugh:

TheIC, I see your green light is on, would you like to take Martin's OH and put one up before it gets too late like last night?

Unfortunately, I can't stay at the moment as I'm back to work now, back after work in a couple of hours :)

[Noyade]

Ikarus/Soko Type 522. :ok: Nicely done Martin.

First saw it in action in the movie Kelly's Heroes with Clint Eastwood and Telly Savalas (and a cast of thousands).

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2600/500pxavionus1dloplv.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/500pxavionus1dloplv.jpg/)

Yugoslav Soko 522 acting as USAF plane in the movie "Kellys Heroes" - YouTube

Open house has been declared.

[evansb]

Not just one, but three views! By gosh I make it easy! Here is the next challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/LOW_LIFE_SNEAK.jpg

[Noyade]

Not just one, but three views! By gosh I make'em easy!

You're a better man than me mate! :)

Curtiss? P-71?

[evansb]

Noyade is correct.:ok: Well done:D The planned XP-71 pusher-prop heavy fighter. You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/706890901.jpg

[Noyade]

Thanks Brian. Hmmm...that photo looks familiar? No.8? :)

Here's No.5. Sorry, not a silhouette, but the fin is black. :ok:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9383/img341s.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/img341s.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

Is that an Argus As10 engine ? It also has an Arado looking tail fin, the Histaviation Arado page has a lot of broken links on it, any point in looking elswhere?

[Noyade]

Evening Trevor!

Is that an Argus As10 engine ?

No mate, a Ranger V-770. Not German, don't go there.

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme...the Clark Duramold 46 (aka Fairchild 46A)?

[Noyade]

Engine ID help? :)

You have it mate and control. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Engine ID help? Nope! Just looked like a Fairchild - engine just confirmed it - honestly:)

Not had a chance to look in until now...busy day. Will prep something before I hit the hay.

[SincoTC]

Thanks for the info Graeme,

I just found this on Fright Archive

1939 | 1- - 0817 | Flight Archive (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1939/1939-1-%20-%200817.html)

Says it's the Clark Cabin Monoplane

Edit: Too late it seems, well done Ken :D (slight sense of relief as I don't have to find another challenge) :)

Engine ID help?

Not on Aerofiles it didn't; wasted some time there, but it did find it on the F Archive (another one word search)

Edit2: Strewth mate, NZ thread is so slooow: only added about 65 pages in 13 months :bored::bored: and we fret when there's not many about :)

[Noyade]

Thanks for the info Graeme,

Yes, I thought I was talking you! :) Didn't realise till now Ken answered. A new swooper?

Caption calls No.5 the Fairchild-Clark-Duramold F-46 of 1938.

Time for the electric-blanket mate?

[SincoTC]

Yus mate, off now before it's time to get up again!! I might listen to the match if I can find a streamed commentary, (I always have the radio on anyway so might as well listen to summat interesting between ZZzz's):)

Catchya later :ok:

[skytrain10]

Here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/fb088679.jpg

Usual rules apply...good night:)

[Karlark]

Hongdu N-5?

[Karlark]

Anyone out there :)?

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/101-2.jpg

Edit: Make that an N-5A :ok:.
Good Morning Ken, Open House please.
Thx

[SincoTC]

Usual rules apply...good night

Thanks Ken, just in case you're tied up again today, I'll second Karl's answer :D and say that it's Open House as he requested :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor, yes another busy day.
Just to confirm, Karl is correct, the Hongdu (Nanchang) N.5A from China:ok:.
Open House is declared

[Noyade]

G'day Ken! :ok:

Hongdu N-5Oh dear, this is what I thought it was...:(

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3071/img345o.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/img345o.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme...that looks like the Norman Fieldmaster?

[Noyade]

Tis mate. Yours again. :ok:

It won't work. Some of us still have all those books.. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/badteeth.gifhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/badteeth.gif

Maybe the guy from post #3 on SC was right?

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme...sorry guys, work calls again. Make it Open House...will try and have something ready this afternoon if no takers.

[Karlark]

I'll be an Open House taker;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/100-3.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Hello KLK!! A Jap??????

[evansb]

Kyushu Q1W Tokai ?

[Karlark]

Spot on Evansb :D. Your control. :ok:

Hello RR, looks like you almost had it.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/kyushu-q1w-tokai.jpg

[evansb]

Thanks Karlark. Here is the next silhouette challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120106.png

[skytrain10]

Looks like the Curtiss SOC Seagull

[evansb]

Skytrain is correct. Well done:D Your turn.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Brian...

Here is the next one to consider:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/34eaf855.jpg

[skytrain10]

All quiet. Clue time: An aircraft that was to go into production but circumstances caused it to be cancelled. It's spirit does however live on:)

Offline for a while now. Will check in later.

[Noyade]

Hi Ken!

It's spirit does however live onhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gifThe Johnnie Walker?

Wrong spirit? American machine? Was thinking Rockwell Commander112-114 sort of thing but you're telling me that only one made?

[jarnold]

This aircraft crashed in 1964 and killed my neighbor Jack Sepos. Family members were watching and said he was not putting the aircraft into any kind of stress. NTSB said he exceeded its stress limits and that it was pilot error. Jack gave me my first airplane ride and I can not believe he did not know the SJ-1 Limits. He was a great guy and was well liked.

[SincoTC]

Hi jarnold and welcome!

You would be referring to the challenge revealed on page 100 of this thread last August

Thanks for your comments, interesting but sad to learn of its and your neighbours demise and a shock for you and his family!

Pilot Error is an easy option sometimes, especially if he's not around to challenge it! You will see I made a comment about how the wings used seemed to have been converted to the "gull-wing" shape. What broke and where?

[Lightning Mate]

Hello everyone and a belated Happy New Year. :)

Apologies for being absent for so long. As yet we have no telephone system or internet in our new building. :\

[SincoTC]

Happy New Year to too mate :ok:

I was beginning to wonder if you'd been dragged into the waste disposal unit on that snazzy new kitchen :)!

When do you expect to get "wired at work"

[Lightning Mate]

Probably around the 16th. mate.

Everything is working at home though. :ok:

Yours seems to be a retractable.....

[SincoTC]

Yours seems to be a retractable.....

Looks that way I agree, but it's Ken's challenge mate, I just saw that someone had posted, so I looked in to see if they'd got it and then replied to him :)!

I'm just putting up a cockpit (if it's not on Mel's list) and then I'm off home too!

Catchya later :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Oops - sorry!

Ken, is your challenge a Rockwell of some kind?

[skytrain10]

Back now.

David....hope you had a good Christmas...and Happy New Year to you. Good to see you back:ok:

American...YES, but not a Rockwell product. Retractable u/c.

[Karlark]

Hello Ken,

There was only 1 Bellanca Skyrocket II built, retractable undercarriage....doesn't fit the silhouette exact, though. Any relation?

[skytrain10]

Hi Karl...no connection with the Skyrocket II. And this one is more recent - 1980's.

Breaking off for dinner. Will check in later.

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken,

Could it be the Beechcraft 38P Lightning ??

[Noyade]

G'day Trevor. :)

I looked at that earlier but thought the transition line from fuselage to fin should be smoother, follow my dots. :) And I thought the exhaust would be more prominent?

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5278/img352e.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/img352e.jpg/)

And at $797,000, I went shopping elsewhere.

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme :),

Yes mate, I see what you mean, however, your illustration also shows a straight wing L/E, whereas the only photo I found shows a small inboard swept section, it also shows two aerials which doesn't match the silhouette (yours has none). I think (hope) that the L/E sweep and the PT6's exhaust are just not visible at that angle.

We'll see, I'm encouraged by the fact that it's hard to find many photo's and there's not much on Aerofiles, which characterise a typical good skytrain challenge :confused: Haven't had time to look more or at your challenge yet as I've been in the kitchen!!

Edit: No need now, good call Kitbag :ok:

[Noyade]

I think I'm staring at Ken's silhouette too much.

Snake (Boa Constrictor?)on a plane - at far right.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2839/34eaf855.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/34eaf855.jpg/)

Time for coffee.

[SincoTC]

Snake (Boa Constrictor?)on a plane - at far right.

That's a good one mate, but yes, you're probably staring too hard :)!!

I try and reconcile that with two little protruberances on the wing L/E just inboard of the tips on the photo I found, (plus the tailplane for its gaping maw)! The eye is a product of your very vivid imagination!

[skytrain10]

Evening/Morning all
Not from Beech Trevor, although it is from a well known GA manufacturer. Not a PT6 engine either - and in fact its not turboprop powered..
I mentioned that its spirit lives on...just to expand on that, there is an association with a more recent design, which is still in production today.
Only a few photos of this on the web, and it gets a mention in Aerofiles.

Nice snake Graeme...in fact all it is are slightly lowered flaps!

[Noyade]

Mooney 301?

[Noyade]

If it is, open house.

Going shopping. :(

[SincoTC]

Could it be the Mooney 301 ??

Edit, bugger too late I see :)!!

[skytrain10]

Mooney 301? That's the one Graeme:ok: The Mooney 301 which as a result of the financial state of Mooney never went beyond the prototype stage. Eventually the design underwent a transformation, got a turborprop engine and became the TBM-700. One wonders what might have been had Mooney had the resources and finances to develop it themselves?

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/8601eb67.jpg

Sorry Trevor, Graeme got there first. However he has declared OH so I'm sure he won't mind if I hand control over to you.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken,

Another good one :ok: Not many keywords in its Aerofiles entry and Wiki has the Mooney 301 categorised under United States civil utility aircraft 1950–1959 :confused:, so I missed it on the first pass!!

The reason I didn't look further than the Beech Lighting at the time was what wiki said about the seemed to fit the clue well.

"Beechcraft originally planned to put the Lightning into production but the economic downturn among general aviation manufacturers in the United States in the 1980s led to the project being shelved"

I was going to bed, but seeing as I've still got a cockpit to monitor I will take Graeme's OH and put something up shortly.

[SincoTC]

Something that promised to be a little swifter!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC-wtf186.jpg

[Noyade]

Does look fast. High speed missile/drone thingy? Or is that tiny incy-wincy little white rectangle on the side profile a cockpit window mate?

Russian, Yank or neither?

[SincoTC]

'Artnoon Graeme,

is that tiny incy-wincy little white rectangle on the side profile a cockpit window mate?

Yup, 'tiz a cockpit! Well spotted and appropriately, it's a recce jobber! Not Russian or Yank though :)

[Noyade]

Not Russian or Yank though http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Another British example of "Project Cancelled?"

Avro?

[SincoTC]

'Tiz British Mate, but not Avro!

[Noyade]

but not Avro!

Shame.

We talking Mach 2 or Hypersonic? Had to squint, but 16 jet engines within the wing and where are the intakes?

Would we be classed as Challengologists? PhD in Challengology - I like it!

Do you have Dr Ken's number? I need to ring and get him up and about and looking at this.

[SincoTC]

It was intended to fly at mach 2.5+, but was only Alumunium Alloy, so the plus bit was optimistic and proved to be its downfall :(!

[Noyade]

It was intended to fly at mach 2.5+, but was only Alumunium Alloy, so the plus bit was optimistic

As a Challengologist that sounds like a severe case of Bristol?

[SincoTC]

that sounds like a severe case of Bristol?

And that sounds like a box of Sherry :) but it's not a Bristol project.

[Noyade]

I see.

Unfortunately Dr Trevor, I must leave my rooms for the moment. If the challenge condition should deteriorate quickly, please call my locum Dr Ken in Wales. I will endeavour to return later this evening.

Also please keep an eye on my intake challenge.

Professional regards.
Dr Noyade.
Challengologist. PhD. FRAG.NSW. JP.

[skytrain10]

Dr Ken here, now what seems to be the problem.....Vickers R.156T (aka V.799) I believe?:)

[SincoTC]

Good Moring Doctor Ken :)

An excellant diagnosis :D

It is indeed the Vickers R.156T (aka Vickers Type 799 and SP.4)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/Vickerstype799.jpg

Operational Requirement 330 (OR.330) started life as a 1954 requirement for a high altitude, high speed reconnaissance aircraft.

The gamble of alloy manufacture precluded the Type 799 at the first stage as it could never increase it’s speed. It’s range of 3000 miles was also inferior to the contract winning Avro 730’s 4250 miles. Soon after awarding the contract, the requirement was updated to include a bombing capability. The contract was scrapped with the Bristol 188 technology demonstrator flying, and the Avro 730 prototype half built.

Skytrain10 has control :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor. Another one of those fantastic what-if's. Would have been at home in Thunderbords!

Something altogether slower now:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/a6f7399d.jpg

[Noyade]

Morning Ken. How's the morning looking over there?

The De Havilland T.K.2?

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3207/tk2gadno1938.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/tk2gadno1938.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme...TK2 it is:ok:.

Nice (well relatively) morning....11C, partly sunny...more like a spring day than the middle of winter. Lazy day today I think :). Any you?

Noyade has control

[Noyade]

Twas overcast, few drops of rain and 30 degC.

Just looked at Mel's list. Not there...

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5859/img355a.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/img355a.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

The cabin reminds me a little of the Kittiwake 1....presume no connection?

[Noyade]

It does. But I don't think there's any connection.

French.
Fifties.
Ultralight.

[sabredog]

AG-02 Statoplan Poussin ?

[Noyade]

Bloody hell! I blinked and the answer appeared! :ok:

Well done SD. Your control.

Gatard Statoplan AG 02 Poussin (http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/cgi-bin/res.pl?keyword=Gatard+Statoplan+AG+02+Poussin&offset=0)

[skytrain10]

Blimey...checked in again and its gone already! Well done Trevor:D

[Noyade]

Well done Trevor:DSabredog. Trevor departed a while ago I think. :)

[sabredog]

Thank you,Noyade. You provided some excellent clues.
Apologies,but it has to be;
Open House.

[skytrain10]

Sorry sabredog...saw the letter "s" and assumed it was Sinco!

As it is OH. here's another light aircraft to think about:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/1ab34833.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Artnoon Ken - just popping in.

What kind of engine is that?!!! Mucho weirdo stuff at the front, with something which seems to emanate from the spinner!

Looking at what I think is the pitot probe, do I assume that the wing is a long way forward?

French job?

[skytrain10]

Afternoon David. Not really sure on the weirdo stuff at the front. It's an Aeronca engine, but the challenge is not:). I don't think the wings are a long way forward...the view is from slightly behind the aircraft, so the starboard wing tip appears almost level with the spinner.

[SincoTC]

Afternoon Ken,

Sorry, been rather busy today and had to go out!

I think that your challenge is the Hants and Sussex Aviation Herald ?

[skytrain10]

I think that your challenge is the Hants and Sussex Aviation Herald ? That's the one Trevor...well done:ok:. Better known for contract work than aircraft production, Hants and Sussex Aviation designed this one-off ultralight which first flew in 1953, and due to disappointing performance, was scrapped in 1955

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/4819ed83.jpg

SincoTC has control

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken,

It does look rather primitive in the flesh doesn't it :ooh:!

I haven't got much time or the software to give a nice silhouette, so this is a bit primitive too :)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC-wtf187B.jpg

[Noyade]

Evening Trevor.
British? Three engines?
I was thinking Wesland Wessex but the tail is wrong. Maybe it changed with modifications? Google just wants to show the chopper.

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

You got work today mate; I thought this one would be right up your street, bound to be in one of your books!

Three engines yes, but not British. It's very similar (in appearance) to one that we've had before and I think you posted it and I got it!

[Noyade]

Afternoon shift today mate.

Lasco Lascondor. Just rolls off your tongue. Keep forgetting we made some aircraft...

VH-UMY (http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austu/VH-UMY.html)

(The first AviaQuiz image for 2012 appears my time around 1100 hrs. Never happened before. American time?)

[SincoTC]

Like I said mate, right up your street (well, Melbourne's not that far away) :)

It is the Larkin Aircraft Supply Co (Lasco) Lacondor

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/LarkinVH-UMY.jpg

It bore a remarkable similarity to the Kreutzer K-5 Air Coach which was developed about the same time.

It was claimed to be the first multi-engined aircraft designed and built in the Southern Hemisphere

Noyade has control :ok:

[Karlark]

I remember mention of the Lasconder reading about the Love Bird & Diamond Bird aircraft of an Australian Geographic survey. They used the Anec IIIs instead.

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor.
You sound more Australian than me Karlark. :)
Not much to offer...

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4210/img356d.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/img356d.jpg/)

Now to see if it's on Mel's list and the net...

[Noyade]

Now to see if it's on Mel's list and the net...

No and yes. Happy to accept just the manufacturer's name.

[SincoTC]

Maybe the De Lackner HZ-1 ??

[Noyade]

De Lackner Done! :ok:

The de Lackner DH-5 Aerocycle. A development of the DH-4. Lots of variations.

De Lackner DH-4 "Heli-Vector" / HZ-1 "Aerocycle" helicopter - development history, photos, technical data (http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/lockner_helicovector.php)

Your control again Trevor.

[SincoTC]

Thanks mate,

Here's an easy for an easy!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC-wtf188.jpg

[Noyade]

Well, you know the PPRuNe challenge definition for "easy." :(

Man-powered?
Solar-powered?

[Noyade]

Could this be British?

[SincoTC]

It is British, and the name probably describes the pilot too (after the flight)

[skytrain10]

Evening...the Puffin II human powered aircraft?

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken,

That's the one, the Hatfield Man Powered Aircraft Club's Puffin II :D

skytrain10 has control :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor.....next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d91e3c96.jpg

[SincoTC]

Sorry Ken; I'm gonna bail out now, been on the go since 4am this morning and another 5am start tomorrow.

Goodnight Gents, have a good day Graeme :ok:

[skytrain10]

No takers... the aircraft was a one-off European racer of the 1960's, designed by an air racing pilot. It is still in existance today. Some pictures show it without wheel spats.

[SincoTC]

Morning Ken,

Coffee break; so I've just had a quick riffle through the sixties in my favourite non-specific country archive and found something that looks like it might fit, the Tom Storey Racer, Aka TSR.3 Wonder circa 1968 ??

Back to work now, so Open House please if correct, I'll try and get back at lunch time to see how things are going on :)!

[skytrain10]

Hi Trevor, yes it is the Storey TSR-3, designed by British air racer Tom Storey:D Just the one example built, G-AWIV remains current of the UK register today. Not sure if it is still flying....I last saw it in 2007.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/c6923b46.jpg

SincoTC has declared Open House

[SincoTC]

Still my OH at lunchtime, not many players about again!

One hurriedly concocted silhouette: I will leave my light on and monitor as often as possible!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf189.jpg

[skytrain10]

Mmm, tail, aerial, wings resembles the Epic LT...but fuselage curvature doesn't match and suspect it is something altogether smaller. Is that a turboprop up front?

Thinking again, is it the Epic LT look alike, the Farnborough Kestrel?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7148/6649599259_754bdcc9ea.jpg

[SincoTC]

It is a turboprop and there is a good reason why it bears a resemblance to the Epic LT but it is in fact slighty larger!

Edit:

As I typed this, you had a good second thought! :D

It is Richard Noble's Farnborough Aircraft Company F1, AKA Kestrel JP-10 and now under totally new ownership, just the Kestrel

KESTREL AIRCRAFT (http://www.kestrel.aero/)

skytrain10 has control

[SincoTC]

Coffee time,

Ken, I thought I'd put up a fresh post just in case you hadn't spotted my edit that gave you control, (after I spotted your second thought edit)! Although, that was before you added the image, so I guess you have seen it and are in the process of preparing another one while being "hampered" by having work to do :) !!

Oh well, back to work now, catchya later!

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor. I did see your edit but was tied up with work so couldn't react until now.

Incidentally the photo of the Kestrel was one I took at Bournemouth when it was visiting in 2007.

Here is the next challenge....this is how I used to draw aircraft when I was a kid - save for the fact I would put big engines on top of the tails! Nice to see one of the manufacturers take note:) Needless to say, a project!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/2fb5ec59.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Good afternoon Ken. :)

Is this thing the HyperMach SonicStar ?

[skytrain10]

Afternoon David:ok:.
HyperMach SonicStar Very similar in design, but no connection that I can see. The challenge aircraft is an airliner concept as opposed to a business jet.

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken,

Is that the Boeing submission for Nasa's N+3 Program ??

[skytrain10]

Is that the Boeing submission for Nasa's N+3 Program ?? It is indeed Trevor - or perhaps I should say, one of their submissions:ok: .
Based on conceptual design studies, the team has recommended to NASA a fixed wing configuration (nicknamed Icon II) with V-tails and upper surface engines as the technology reference concept plane for N+3, said team leader Bob Welge of BR&T. The Icon II concept can carry 120 passengers in a two-class, single-aisle interior, and can cruise at Mach 1.6 to Mach 1.8 with a range of about 5,000 nautical miles.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d6e1b8ad.jpg

SincoTC has control.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken,

Returning to the previous theme, but this one didn't get built!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf190.jpg

Off home soon, will put my light on when I get home!

[Noyade]

Evening Trevor.

I have mild tinnitus, but this doesn't ring any bells. Poor image to begin with = Russian?

(That NASA thingy - leading edges on each wing are different?)

[SincoTC]

Morning Graeme,

Poor image to begin with = Russian?

No mate, poor image = me sodding around to produce silhouette :O !!

That said, the image was fairly small and is of a model, but it's not Russian!

I think that the different L/E shape on that NASA thingy is a product of the kinked planform, dihedral and the angle of the view!

[Karlark]

Good morning & evening

Even though it is not, it reminds me of the Wibault 368. If you have ever seen one of those. :)

[SincoTC]

Afternoon Karl,

As you say, it isn't a Wibault 368, but it does have quite a few features in common :)

[Noyade]

So French?
Dewoitine maybe? They were into long snouts.

American? Northrop?

[SincoTC]

Yes French, but not Dewoitine!

[Noyade]

I think that the different L/E shape on that NASA thingy is a product of the kinked planform, dihedral and the angle of the view! Hmmm.....

One day while doodling at the NASA design office....

"Hey Bob, check this one out."
"Idiot, you drew the leading edges differently!"
"She's good, on one will notice."

Did the French firm make any other racers? This is a racer I presume?

[skytrain10]

Evening Trevor/Morning Graeme. Looking in before hitting the hay...Couzinet C.150 I believe?

If correct Open House as nothing prepared and tired!

Night night

[SincoTC]

Did the French firm make any other racers? This is a racer I presume?

yes, it is a racer and their only one (it was intended for the London-Melbourne race), but was never completed as far as I can ascertain!

[SincoTC]

Lookin in before hitting the hay...Couzinet C.150 I believe?

If correct Open House as nothing prepared and tired!

It is correct Ken :D Dunno about the "C", I have it as the Couzinet 150

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/Couzinet150.jpg

skytrain10 has declared an Open House and I can sod off to bed too now :ok:

[Noyade]

Nice one Ken.

Gotta get ready for work. I'm a professional doodler. Best part is I'm tax-payer funded.
Hope you both sleep well and long. :ok:

[skytrain10]

I'll take up my own OH:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/6dc3f3df.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Hello mate!!! Greetings from sunny Dubai!

A yugoslav machine, Ken?

[skytrain10]

Hi Martin...sorry missed your post. Not a Yugoslav machine, but it is European, 1970's era.

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken,

I'm just off home now, but thought I'd ask a couple of questions to narrow it down a bit more for a look when I get home later!

I take it were're looking up at it, inline with the extended flaps and it has upturned wingtips, truncating the starboard wing?

Those swept inboard leading edges remind me of the French Wassmer or maybe a CERVA, any point in pursuing this line of thinking??

WTF is that "pipe" sticking out of the wing root and that loop by the Fin L/E?? I see something on the far elevator tip, so is that another view of a similar loopy thing (it seems to be pointing the wrong way for a horn balance)?

[skytrain10]

Evening Trevor
I take it were're looking up at it, inline with the extended flaps and it has upturned wingtips, truncating the starboard wing? Yes, looking up at it and from slightly behind. Wingtips are not upturned but the underside is angled upwards near the tip to join the top side at the tip (if you see what I mean)...hence the illusion of an upturned wing when seen from below.
Edit....to explain what I mean, here is the wingtip from the front:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/a8f5ad54-1.jpg

Those swept inboard leading edges remind me of the French Wassmer or maybe a CERVA, any point in pursuing this line of thinking?? In short no! We have however had another challenge from this manufacturer that featured the same style inboard leading edge.

WTF is that "pipe" sticking out of the wing root and that loop by the Fin L/E?? I see something on the far elevator tip, so is that another view of a similar loopy thing (it seems to be pointing the wrong way for a horn balance)?
The "pipe" actually comes out of the fuselage and there is one each side (the other one doesn't show becuause of the angle). Not sure on their purpose. Maybe a step to get up to the cockpit?? The loopy thing is on the vertical, again not sure of its purpose. Sorry, I'm not technically minded and can't see any references in the aircraft details.

[Ridge Runner]

A Gardan machine, Ken?

[skytrain10]

Hi Martin, not Gardan and not French.

Offline for a while now, will check-in later

[Noyade]

Hi.

Valmet L-70 Vinka?

If so, open house. Cheers.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1084/339624609021f8b22ea1z.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/339624609021f8b22ea1z.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

That photo looks familiar...I've got one just like that:) Yes, it is of course the Valmet L-70 Vinka trainer/light ground attack aircraft from Finland. Well done Graeme:ok:

Noyade has declared Open House

[Karlark]

Here is one for the open house:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/00-1.jpg

Edit: Please move forward if ID'd... oh, and sorry for the lousy silhouette... :}

[Ridge Runner]

Is it a drone (i.e. un-manned?), Karlark?

[Karlark]

Hello RR, not a drone, it was manned. Very little info on this prototype aircraft so I will tell you its purpose was agriculture.

[sabredog]

HAL Agri plane?

[Karlark]

That is the one Sabredog, the HAL Agri plane prototype.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/halagriic1.jpg

Your control.

[sabredog]

Thank you,Karlark. The next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz45-1.gif

[evansb]

A.V.I.A. LM-02 Dive-bombing glider ?

[sabredog]

Correct Brian.
YHC.

[Ridge Runner]

the HAL Agri plane prototype

A nice one, Karlark!! :)

[evansb]

Thanks Terrence. Dive-bombing in a glider sounds like a one-way trip.

Also, that HAL Agri-plane seems to have been inspired from the Partenavia Aeroscooter.

Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120111.jpg

[skytrain10]

Evening Brian, Grumman F7F-3N Tigercat?

Edit, not around this evening so if correct will have to be Open House.

[Ridge Runner]

I'll second that, mate!

[evansb]

skytrain10 is correct.:ok: The quick Grumman F7F. As requested, it is

OPEN HOUSE.

[Karlark]

One for the open house;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/104-2.jpg

[SincoTC]

One for the open house...

Good man :ok:, dunno where they all were this side of the pond yesterday, 'fraid I was too busy to look in!

Can't stop now as gotte get ready for an early start to my day :sad:, but I'll ask this now and maybe catch you before bed! Is this one from you're side of the pond??

BTW, there'e an open cockpit available now :)

[Karlark]

Yes TC, this side of the pond, only no dihedral compared to the Tigercat. :)

[SincoTC]

Morning Karl,

Hurried look at lunch break!

Three-bladed props, radio mast, is it a Curtiss Y1A-18 or possibly the later production A-18 Shrike II ??

[Karlark]

Afternoon TC,

Yes, it is the Curtiss A-18 Shrike :ok:.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/104a.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/4555818017_9dfa9a6b88_o.jpg

Your control Trevor.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Karl,

Sorry for the delay guys (I know you're out there somewhere), I've been in a meeting since lunchtime :ooh:!!

It'll have to be an Open House now, as I'll be busy for the rest of the afternoon. If no one takes it I'll put one up later when I get home!

[Ridge Runner]

I'd love too but I can't guarantee that I can monitor over the weekend. Sorry!

[SincoTC]

Hi Martin,

No need to apologise mate, I know/think you're still in faraway places and time-zones :)

[SincoTC]

Just going home, will be back to monitor in about an hour:

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf191jpg.jpg

[Karlark]

Martin MB-1/MB-2/NBS-1 bomber?

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon Minnesota!

It looks like it's turning out to be the Karlark and TC show doesn't it :)!


Martin MB-1/MB-2/NBS-1 bomber?

I thought the MB-1 had splayed interplane-struts (but I could be wrong though), but the other two are identical in silhouette, I think because of this, it ought to go on Mel's list as the Martin MB-2/NBS-1

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/Martin_MB-2.jpg

Karlark has control :ok:

[Karlark]

Thanks & Evening Minehead! :)

Just multi-tasking here at work... one more before the buzzer:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/33-3.jpg

You are correct Trevor, I should have left the MB-1 out of the carpet-bombing of answers.

[Noyade]

G'day gents.

A Kinner product mate?

Kinner R-5?
Kinner-P?

I Kinner make up my mind!

[SincoTC]

I'd have a Pee if I were you Sportster, I think that's a good call mate, but I may be wrong :)!!

[Karlark]

Morning Noyade! :ok:

I have it as the Kinner R-5 Playboy. So it is kind of both an R & P

Still at work. The buzzer must 'ave broke. :bored:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/33a.jpg

Your control Graeme

[SincoTC]

Good one :ok:!!

Was having doubts about the P as they all seemed to have cowls, but I could only find photos of the Playboy with open cockpit and then noticed it started life as closed!

[Noyade]

Thanks Karlark. Not very "silhouetty", but here goes No.3...

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/8020/img347g.jpg (http://img854.imageshack.us/i/img347g.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Issat a Stearman 4-CM1/4-RM1 Senior Speedmail ??

[Noyade]

I'll accept that mate! :ok: With a Ranger.

Your control.

http://aerofiles.com/pix1.gif Stearman 4-RM Special (http://aerofiles.com/stear-4rm.jpg) [X484W] (magazine clip)
http://aerofiles.com/cleardot.gif
4-RM Special 1930 = 4pChwM repowered with 450hp Ranger GV-770. POP: 1 [X484W].

[SincoTC]

Thanks Graeme,

Mean eh!! I'm surprised this is not on the list!!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf192.jpg

[Noyade]

Has to be the Dauntless mate.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1381/12631357.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/12631357.jpg/)

Speaking of which...

AviaQuiz - Name That Plane! (http://www.dauntless-soft.com/aviaquiz/)

Welcome to AviaQuiz2012. Fill free to put any answer to re-register in quiz.Re-register?! What's going on?

[SincoTC]

Afternoon Graeme,

I'll go with that mate seeing as it's topical (dunno WTF is going on at AQ though, an unnoticed cock-up I hope)

The caption to my source actually give it as the Douglass A-24 Banchee, but that just seems to be the Army name for the SBD Dauntless, so I think that both should noew go on Mel's list!

Noyade has control :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks mate. Should have looked at the site more carefully where I found your image. :( Very generous, thanks.

Next one...

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/4438/twowz.jpg (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/twowz.jpg/)
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/10/oneup.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/oneup.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Not been around of late....first chance to look in for a while. Looks Curtiss'ish, but not quite right. A US machine Graeme?

[Noyade]

G'day Ken. :)

A US machine? Yes mate. But not from Curtiss. Two-seat fighter...

[SincoTC]

'Artnoon Graeme,

Is the Plan-view silhouette conceal a closed cockpit?

Welcome back Ken :ok:

[Noyade]

closed cockpitYes mate. I think you're onto me. :)

Here is the cockpit detail....

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3487/trevoru.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/trevoru.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme...my other thought late last night was a Vought. Now I see the cockpit that also has similarities to Vought, but again nothing that quite matches. Time for a coffee and a closer look.
Edit...keep looking at the XF3U...close, but not close enough.:ugh:
Going to have to resort to Aerofiles....

[skytrain10]

Douglas XFD-1?
My Midland Counties book US Designations and Serials came to the rescue:)

[Noyade]

Douglas XFD-1

Sorry for the delay mate, your control! :)

XF3U...close, but not close enough

Just had a look at that - it does look very similar!

[skytrain10]

Cheers Graeme...good challenge:ok: Just never thought of Douglas! Hope all is well?

Will have one ready shortly

[skytrain10]

Here is the next challenge

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d05595a8.jpg

[Noyade]

Kawasaki T-4?

[skytrain10]

That was easy, yes the Kawasaki T-4 it is:ok:

Just thought it was a nice picture:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/347c8986-1.jpg

Back to you.

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken, but the silhouette cupboard is bare mate. Sorry. Open House. Put up another? Trevor? Anyone? Otherwise I'll start scrambling and look for one...

[Noyade]

A little rushed, but here goes...

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3075/img376a.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/img376a.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Heading off now mate.

Clue. It's Romanian. ;)

Cheers.

[skytrain10]

Must be the IAR-814?

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/42ba1d9f.jpg

[SincoTC]

'Artnoon Ken,

Must be the IAR-814

I agree and second that :ok: and as Graeme has turned in now, I recon control is yours, unless you want to wait for another confirmation!

I've got a lot to do today, but I'll leave my light on and pay attention as often as I can :)

[skytrain10]

I've got a lot to do today, but I'll leave my light on and pay attention as often as I can I'm much the same as you at present...seems the older I get the more hours I work...something wrong there!!

I think Graeme would be happy for us to press on, so as they say "here's one I prepared earlier":

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/c679c7a5.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Greetings! :):)

Bit of a three-man show this thread innit...

[skytrain10]

Bit of a three-man show this thread innit... Hello mate...hopefully you're going to make it four :).
Good to see you:ok:

[SincoTC]

Just checking back and I'll second that too :ok:

New work computer tomorrow mate ??

[Lightning Mate]

Nah mate - at least another week.

Awaiting telephone line (still!) and server/web hookup.

I have been a mix of lecturer and manual labourer, as we all have been, but we now have two classrooms set up. We finished the second one on Friday afternoon, and with another university course coming in tomorrow it was a touch of "lastminute.com".

Also enjoying a £2.5k paycut..............who cares............

The challenge fin reminds me of sumfin'.......was it Polish?

[skytrain10]

The challenge fin reminds me of sumfin'.......was it Polish? Not Polish but you are not that far away:)