Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry - either I am very very pissed or something is very very wrong!!

[skytrain10]

Sorry - either I am very very pissed or something is very very wrong!! Am I missing something David....?

[Lightning Mate]

You sure are.

That post should have been yesterday!

Don't worry about it though - the thread will hang for a while, so I'm off.

[sabredog]

Thank you,Brian.
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/quiz79-2.gif

[skytrain10]

North American F-108 Rapier?

[sabredog]

Indeed it is,Skytrain10

YHC

[skytrain10]

Thanks sabredog.

Something a little slower now.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/c3029532.jpg

[evansb]

Looks similar to the Grumman AA-1 Yankee..any connection ?

[skytrain10]

Looks similar to the Grumman AA-1 Yankee..any connection ? No connection, other than being from the US.

Edit: Closing down for the night now. Usual rules apply to the night shift.

[evansb]

Vans RV-12 ?

[skytrain10]

Vans RV-12 ? That's the one Bri:ok: The latest product from the worlds largest kitplane manufacturer, and their first entry into the LSA market.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/3d5adab4.jpg

evansb has control

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/emoticons-question-face_17-317132617.jpg

Looks like 2046 hours prune time could be interesting..........



4. In the event that the person posting the challenge has
not responded to a guess or question within 12 hours, or someone who was the
winner of the previous challenge has not posted a new challenge within 12 hours
(unless they have declared Open House) then the competition will be null and
void and it will become Open House.

[evansb]

Here, impatient one:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/wsh120403.jpg

[skytrain10]

Afternoon Bri....Cirrus SR20 or SR22?

[evansb]

skytrain10 is correct.:ok: Well done.:D You have control.

[skytrain10]

Thank you evansb.

Here is the next challenge:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/6f3a04d6.jpg

[skytrain10]

Closing down for the night - usual rules apply.

[Ridge Runner]

Une petite grenouille peut-être? :)

[skytrain10]

Non. Vous avez besoin de traverser l'étang :)

To help you along it was designed as an aerobatic aircraft.

[Noyade]

Hello Ken.

Not sure what you two gents are saying, but I thought I was getting close with the French CAC Choucas.....but it's not French?

[Lightning Mate]

Vous avez besoin de traverser l'étang http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

He means you will have to traverse the Pond ie Atlantic.

[skytrain10]

Hi Graeme, hope all is well? Sorry we went off in to French! It's American, and from a reasonably well known manufacturer.

Afternoon David:)

[Lightning Mate]

Afternoon Ken.

[skytrain10]

Do you need a clue? Although this should come up easily on an Aerofiles search, there is no photo.

[Lightning Mate]

A Rans design?

Were only two made?

Looks similar to the Bede BD-8. :)

[skytrain10]

Looks similar to the Bede BD-8 There's a good reason for that - it is the Bede BD-8:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/0990cdbd.jpg

LM has control

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Ken.

Won't be more than about ten minutes - just finishing a technical chart for my colleague....

[Lightning Mate]

Here you go.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/antarctica2copy.jpg

PS - check out Jet Blast - Correct Pre-Flights. ;)

edit: going home, back soon.

This challenge was a project only.

[skytrain10]

Is it the Bell X-16?

Edit, no forget that - should have looked closer!

[sabredog]

BOEING B-47C
PROJECT

[skytrain10]

Russian, the Myasishchev M-28?

[Lightning Mate]

Good call mate.

All yours. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks David. Did you see the photo's of the full size mock-up - would have been an impressive machine.

Next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/289b066f.jpg

[sabredog]

EM-5A Dudus Kudlacz

[skytrain10]

EM-5A Dudus Kudlacz Good call sabredog:ok: Would have accepted WSK-Mielec M-17 as well!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/03fea2fc.jpg

sabredog has control.

[sabredog]

Thank you Skytrain1O.
The next challenge should not last very long!
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz80.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Well it won't with the name GM22 Hokioi on it!

Except it is totally fictitious.....

Prolly better to have another shot - we won't mind. :)

I'll sell you one......:E

[sabredog]

Interesting,as my "Photobucket" shows all identification blanked out!
YHC

[skytrain10]

I agree with LM, it is the fictitious GM-22 from "Nation States" or whatever the online forum/game is called. But I cannot see where the name appears on it??

So what have you got for us David?

[Lightning Mate]

I'll have a look mate - sorry, got visitors.....

But I cannot see where the name appears on it??

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/GM-22.jpg

This one is real....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/sowot.jpg

[skytrain10]

Ok, no probs, it's pretty quiet anyway. I'll look in a little later. Cheers:)

Just seen your post - I can see the name on yours, but not on sabredogs - it was blanked out on his (or at least it is on the post I can see!).

[Lightning Mate]

PM airborne................

[Lightning Mate]

Snucked away from pouring drinks, but Memsab is frowning.

Will have to go very shortly. :uhoh:

[Noyade]

Evening gents.

Looks like a Baboon mate?

BAT FK-24 Baboon (http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft25609.htm)

[Noyade]

The next challenge should not last very long!Looks like they based it on the Rockwell/MMB X-31?

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7905/gm22.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/gm22.jpg/)
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8443/img538l.jpg (http://img577.imageshack.us/i/img538l.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Morning mate. :)

Looks like a Baboon mate?

That's a deal. :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks David. Got a lonely Intake and Cockpit up, so I'll make this one an Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

Enjoy you day mate. :ok:

[evansb]

The next silhouette challenge is..
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120404.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day Brian. A Waco of sorts?

[skytrain10]

A Waco INF Brian?

[evansb]

Yes, it is a WACO INF. Your turn.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Brian but I'm about to close down for the night here, but rather than declare OH, I think it should go to Graeme, since he came up with Waco - I just did the easy bit:)

Good night all

[evansb]

.."I just did the easy bit" By that do you mean striping the photo through a program so it reveals the aircraft registration, and then you look up the registration?

[Noyade]

Thanks, but considering some of my recent challenge attempts, I'll retire and maintain Open House.

[skytrain10]

By that do you mean striping the photo through a program so it reveals the aircraft registration, and then you look up the registration? Uh, no..rather boringly I looked at some photo's..

[skytrain10]

As it's Open House.....

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/337e5024.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken. :)

The first of five days off for me, but I'm under threat not to waste much of it on this thread.;)

Turboprop?

[Ridge Runner]

A highly modified Aero Commander 200 or a Navion?

[Noyade]

Morning gents. :)

I've seen this Ken.....looking...

Definitely American.........maybe.

Edit. Is is a single engine, not a trick of the angle?

[Noyade]

Interceptor 400....?

Edit: No, I don't think so. I haven't seen this before...

[Lightning Mate]

Morning/evening all. :)

[Ridge Runner]

Morning Graham and David!!!!!!!

[Ridge Runner]

Its yours Graeme!!!!!!! http://www.meyersaircraft.com/images/I400/Web%20I400%20in%20flight%20cover%20page.jpg

[skytrain10]

Interceptor 400....? You may not think so Graeme, but it is the Interceptor 400:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/9cd25ca4.jpg

Noyade has control

Morning Martin, David:)

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken, but dammit, no sleeves. Open house.

(I'm having problems connecting to PPRuNe - just me?)

[Lightning Mate]

No mate - it's tripped off a couple of times this morning/evening.

I thought it was getting too cold in NSW for short-sleeved shirts....:E

Wanna something quick and seemples?

I'll sell you one by e-mail...................;)

[Noyade]

I thought it was getting too cold in NSW for short-sleeved shirts

Presently 23.6 deg C. Max was 30.

If you have one (challenge) just toss it up mate. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

This will keep things going for maybe 5 to 10 minutes....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/nicebrown.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Fire Scout?

[Noyade]

Manned or unmanned mate?

Anything to do with the Mini-500 kit chopper?

[Lightning Mate]

No Martin - we've had that before. I posted it.

Unmanned Graeme.

[Ridge Runner]

No, a Schiebel machine?

Edit: the Camcopter 100?

http://im.rediff.com/news/2011/jun/22ss3.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

No, a Schiebel machine?

Yes...............................:ok:

All yours Martin.

[Ridge Runner]

ta!

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune050412A.jpg

[Noyade]

Unbuilt project Martin?

[Ridge Runner]

Yes, mate. Unbuilt as far as I know

[Lightning Mate]

Anything to do with a certain Air Ministry Spec.?

[Ridge Runner]

No, David. On the wrong side of the axis, mate!

[Noyade]

Italian?
Piaggio?

[Ridge Runner]

No mate, sorry

[Noyade]

Just a hint of Heinkel? He-112 sort of thingy?

[Noyade]

No, David. On the wrong side of the axis, mate!

Sorry mate, had a few beers - does that mean it is Axis?

[Lightning Mate]

I hope so because that's what I'm working on. :ooh:

[Noyade]

What time do pubs open over there?

(Working tomorrow and Monday David. Hopefully get some silhouettes done over the weekend.)

Looks too ugly to be a Jap?

[Ridge Runner]

Looks too ugly to be a Jap?

Maybe, but ......... ;)

And pubs? .. all day mate!

[Lightning Mate]

And pubs? .. all day mate!

You could get in a lot of trouble here mate!!

[Noyade]

Fleeting resemblance to the R2Y Keiun...

Yokosuka?

The plan shows the underside, but not the undercarriage layout? Tricycle?

[Lightning Mate]

Did it actually have gear?

[Noyade]

You would hope so, since it has a prop?

[Lightning Mate]

I was thinking of something else.

[Noyade]

Speaking of "Japs", do you recognise this actor?
He appeared in the TV series "Kung Fu" and the James Bond movie "The Man with the Golden Gun"...

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/1402/img480n.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/img480n.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Sorry Martin, no idea what the legless Jap is.

[Lightning Mate]

I think your "Jap" might be Richard Loo.

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry mate..... There is little info about it on the web but it is there. The designer produced one other flyable design... a very nice looking twin with six-blade props! He also produced a twin-fuselage fighter design (not built).....

.....whoosh..... TC are you going to strike?

RR

[Noyade]

I think your "Jap" might be Richard Loo. :ok:

Richard Loo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Loo)

Turns out he's not Japanese, but always played them in war movies.

[Lightning Mate]

Something from Hasegawa?

[Noyade]

flyable design

So three designs, but none flew?

[Lightning Mate]

Maybe a Tachikawa.

[Noyade]

.....whoosh..... TC are you going to strike?

I don't think so Martin. He usually hits hard and fast and doesn't linger around. At least there is no pain. Mercifully quick.

Good luck David. "Hasegawa" - you're a funny guy mate. :)

Cheers.

[skytrain10]

Is it the Rikugun Kogiken A?

Unicraft Models 1/72 Kogiken I (http://www.unicraft.biz/on/kogiken-1/kogiken-1.htm)

Graeme - it's not Hasegawa - it's Unicraft:) Just take one P-39......!!

[Lightning Mate]

I didn't mean the kit maker!

[Lightning Mate]

Nice call mate.:ok:

When I posted Hasegawa I think Graeme thought I meant the kit manufacturer.

I was refering to the designer himself. :uhoh:

[skytrain10]

Cheers David
When I posted Hasegawa I think Graeme thought I meant the kit manufacturer. He was'nt the only one - had assumed you put it there as a joke:) Little did you know how close you were:) Being thick I hadn't realised there was an aircraft designer called Mr Hasegawa - have now looked him up!

[Lightning Mate]

I knew I was getting close.

However I became distracted reading an interesting article about him instead of concentrating on the challenge. :\

Now, where's Martin when you need him...........

[skytrain10]

I became distracted reading an interesting article about him Done that before and missed out - still you never know as you can sometimes stumble across a future challenge that way.

Guess it's lunch time now...I'm sure Martin will be back soon.

[Lightning Mate]

...still you never know as you can sometimes stumble across a future challenge
that way.

You're not wrong there.

Had a little "chat" with Trevor over the weekend.

I have eleven days to go to getting state pension, and it's a lot more than I thought, so with that and no NI payments to make I might just quit you know.

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry, sorry... a long with the boss! :) .... Yes, the Rikogun Type A. Ken has it I think!

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry, sorry... a long with the boss!

Payrise????

[skytrain10]

Thanks Martin. Hope conversations with the boss went well:ok:

so with that and no NI payments to make I might just quit you know. If it works for you financially mate, go for it:ok:

Here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/74d5f867.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

NURSE.......!!!!!!!!

[Lightning Mate]

Too much time looking at screen - eyes hurt, especially with cold.

Bowing out for a while. :)

[Ridge Runner]

a yankee homebuilt, Ken????

[skytrain10]

a yankee homebuilt, Ken???? Yep, from the 1970's:ok:

[skytrain10]

All quiet, so in case there are any lurkers out there, this aircrafts likeness to a much more well known design is not entirely coincidental, and is reflected in its name.

[evansb]

The tail reminds me of a Short Skyvan, the canopy forward to the nose, as well as the landing gear are similar to a Zenair, however the obvious connection is the Ercoupe. Is the word "coupe" in its name ?

[skytrain10]

however the obvious connection is the Ercoupe. Is the word "coupe" in its name ? Correct on both counts Brian:ok:
Going to be offline for a while, so if you get it (and now you have the connection I am sure you will), please move on with the next challenge. Plenty of photo's on the net, but not in Aerofiles.

[evansb]

Chris Tenna's MiniCoupe ?

[SincoTC]

First chance of a look in for a while due to a very hectic schedule this week :(!

Chris Tenna's MiniCoupe ?

Not sure when skytrain is due back, so I'll second that answer for you before going home!

All yours :ok:

[evansb]

Thank you. Here is the next dark mystery:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120405.jpg

[skytrain10]

Evening all
Just to reconfirm evansb's identification, mine was indeed the Chris Tena Mini Coupe. Some 200 plans had been sold during the 70's, but only a handful actually built.
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/dbb3d8ec.jpg

Your's looks familiar Brian...an American design - 1930's?

[evansb]

My mystery aeroplane is not from the U.S.A.

[skytrain10]

Now I know why it looks familiar, perhaps closer to home then - the Civilian Coupe?

[SincoTC]

Home again :)

Carrying on with the coupe theme; how about the Civilian Coupé 02 ??

Edit: Good call Ken :ok: (relieved really as I haven't got one ready and really ought to go and get something to eat)

[skytrain10]

Cheers Trevor...bad news is I don't have one prepared (as David would say, short sleave shirt!). Just going to see if I can find one quickly!

[evansb]

Yes, skytrain10, hurrah:ok: however, having checked Herndon, Heston, and historic Hendon, I happened upon the Hedon CAC Coupe 02 at Hull. Your turn.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/6813290604_d1407333d5_z1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Thanks Brian - I have a photo of that very aircraft which I took at Biggin Hill some years back. Nice to see it is still current on the UK register.

Here is the next challenge:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/f1b017ea.jpg

[SincoTC]

Maybe a Socata TB-20 Trinidad ??

[skytrain10]

Maybe a Socata TB-20 Trinidad ?? It does look like a Trinidad doesn't it....but no, it's not.

[SincoTC]

Hmm, is it French then? If not, is it European?

[skytrain10]

Hmm, is it French then? If not, is it European? No and No :)

[SincoTC]

Oh and oh, so back across the pond, USA?

[skytrain10]

so back accross the pond, USA? Nope....you need to head the other way:)

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken, The other way eh! Is Korea or China too far, or is it from another continent?

One for the night/new-day shift maybe, I'm going to heading to the bedroom soon, it's been a long day!

Goodnight Ken, catchya tomorrow :)

[skytrain10]

Is Korea or China too far Not at all :ok:

Good night Trevor. Closing down myself now, so usual rules apply.

[Noyade]

G'day Ken.

Oz?
Kitplane?

[skytrain10]

Oz?
Kitplane? Evening Graeme - neither. Perhaps my reply to Trevor was a bit misleading - the aircraft IS from China or Korea. The similarity to the SOCATA range is not coincidental :)

[Noyade]

Not getting far mate. Civilian or military purpose? Not built under license?

[SincoTC]

Good morning Ken,

The similarity to the SOCATA range is not coincidental

No, it isn't is it :eek:! Inscrutable reverse engineering :ooh:!!

The Chinese version is the Shijiazhuang LE-500 Little Eagle ??

light aircraft | 2003 | 2287 | Flight Archive (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/2003/2003%20-%202287.html)

Edit: evening Graeme :ok:

[Noyade]

Morning Trevor. :ok:

Nice swoop outta the sun!

[Noyade]

Shijiazhuang

How would you pronounce that?

[SincoTC]

How would you pronounce that?

I'd say Shy_as_zoo-wang, but no doubt, there'll be folk who know better:)

[Noyade]

Or.... SO-CATA...or in my case...LO-SER.

:)

[Noyade]

Anyway mate, I'd like to confirm your kill...

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3923/indexvu.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/i/indexvu.jpg/)

Post away Trevor...

[Lightning Mate]

Morning/evening. :)

Graeme, have you Goggled Hasegawa (the designer) yet?

[Noyade]

No. He makes resin kits doesn't he? :)

[Noyade]

And for some reason a semi-naked jap girl appears amongst them?!

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Hasegawa&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=YsQ&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=P7F-T7n9JYetiAfZqZ3YBA&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBoQ_AUoAQ&biw=939&bih=523

[Lightning Mate]

Scroll down...........

[Noyade]

Tatsuo Hasegawa (長谷川 龍雄, Hasegawa Tatsuo, February 8, 1916 – April 29, 2008) was a Japanese automotive engineer, and known as the development chief of the first Toyota Corolla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Corolla).

The flying Corolla?

[SincoTC]

Sorry guys,

Computer stopped responding and had to restart it and it takes sooo long :ugh:

Thanks Graeme, morning David :)

Just loading new challenge

Here'tiz then, it won't last long in present ompany!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf224.jpg

[Noyade]

Got him! :ok:

Tatsuo Hasegawa, Ki-94 (http://www.geocities.jp/pinealguy/tatsuo/tatsuo.htm)

[Lightning Mate]

Very narrow and tall engine - typical old design for speed.

Designed with speed in mind?

[Noyade]

Apart from that dorsal hump, I was (actually, I am) going to say the SO.6000 Triton?

[Lightning Mate]

Caudron - maybe C460 ?

[SincoTC]

The hump is the cockpit and it was designed for speed!

it won't last long in present ompany!


I was hoping the angle would disguise it a little, but.....

David has it :D, the Caudron C.460

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/C460Large.jpg

Lightning Mate has control :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you Trevor - another coming up.....

[skytrain10]

Morning...well I was about to say the C.460 but David was there first....I'm sure you're right David:ok:

And well done to Trevor for getting my Chinese offering. Nice to see things don't really change in the east - why licence build when you can reverse engineer! This one is interesting in that they seem to have mixed the old style fuselage (introduced on the original TB-9/TB-10 range) with the fin/wings of the "new" TB-20/21XL models.

[Lightning Mate]

Here you all go..........

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/tisreal.jpg

[Noyade]

Yank?
1950s?

[Noyade]

Based on an Ercoupe?

[Lightning Mate]

Yank yes. 1954.

Not based on Ercoupe.

In Aerofiles but no photograph available - well there is!

[SincoTC]

York June Bug ??

I've go to go out for a while and can't delve at the moment, so OH please if correct :)

Edit: Snap!!! Well it looks like it was "designed for "cow pasture operation."

[skytrain10]

Is it the York June Bug?

If correct will have to be Open House

[Lightning Mate]

Not the June Bug mate.

[Noyade]

Best I can do mate...

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1092/img548o.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/img548o.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Many thanks mate :ok::ok: - appreciated.

[MReyn24050]

Farnam FC-1 Fly-Cycle I believe.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk42.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

OUT OF THE SUN........................

Morning Mel.

Your thread. :D

[Noyade]

Could be a brain Tumour...but is STITS in the answer?

Rough year of manufacture?

[Noyade]

Brain Tumour. :(

[MReyn24050]

Thanks David. It was the subject of "What Cockpit" back in May 2006. It will have to be Open House as I have yet to master the production of silhouettes.
Mel

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Aleksanderbubblebathcopy-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Mel,

Why don't you cancel the OH and PM me one for silhouetting.

I'm here all day and have plenty of time.

If not, then Ken, you seem to be the only other player around.

[Lightning Mate]

Ken, I see your light on still.

From your previous comment about OH, do I understand you have nothing prepared?

I'm wearing a long-sleeved shirt - very long-sleeved.

[skytrain10]

Hi David....more of a case I am not around too much to monitor. Anyway I have one lined up so stand-by. Incidentally your Fly-Cycle had me beaten completely. I looked at a photo, but clearly the design was changed at some point....tail and cockpit totally different. That's why I went for the June Bug:(

[MReyn24050]

David PM sent.

[skytrain10]

Ah, I see a PM to you from Mel, so I'll hold off on posting.

[Lightning Mate]

OK both of you - PM received from Mel.

If you gentlemen would kindly give me a while I will produce Mels' as a silhouette.

This will be a good test of Photoshopping speed - please bear with me......

[Lightning Mate]

Ten minutes or less............

[Lightning Mate]

Ready but having Photobucket load trouble - standby.

[Lightning Mate]

PM for Mel :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Evening mate. :)

I think we are waiting on Mel.

[Noyade]

Sorrry...just saw the fricken big sign telling me to catch up...:)

Challenge removed.

[Lightning Mate]

Mind you, I sent Mel his image almost forty minuts ago, so I don't know where he is.

Edit - Mels' light is now off.

Therefore I think that one of you should post.

[skytrain10]

Well, as no takers, this is what I was going to post an hour or so ago:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/a800474e.jpg

To save looking, this is not American.

[Noyade]

Well, as no takers,

Well, actually there was mate. But Mr Eleven Thousand promptly asked me to wait for Mel...:hmm::)

Yours some sort of Extra?

[Lightning Mate]

Oi - don't blame me mate.

Mels' light was on at the time and we were waiting for his post. :)

[MReyn24050]

Sorry was called away from the PC. Will take the next Open House.

[Noyade]

Good luck Mel...they're a sly couple and gang up on ya - watch 'em carefully. :suspect:

[Lightning Mate]

Nite Mate. ;)

[skytrain10]

Yours some sort of Extra? No, but you have homed in on the right country:ok:

Sorry Graeme, in my 1225 post I said I would hold off posting pending Mel's challenge, but following David's invitation to us both, I went for it:)

[Lightning Mate]

Long shot - Staudacher S-600.

[skytrain10]

Staudacher S-600. Nope, not one of those.

[Lightning Mate]

I thus assume it's not a dedicated aerobatic job.

[skytrain10]

I thus assume it's not a dedicated aerobatic job. Wrong assumption - it IS an aerobatic job.

[skytrain10]

All rather quiet....to help you along, a one-off, 1970's design.

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken,

I've been out all afternoon and it does seem to have been quiet; although I note that David has aquired a new icon for some reason :confused:!!

a one-off, 1970's design

Does one-off mean it's a manufacturer's prototype that didn't go into production, or that it's an amateur's, built from scratch effort?

Was it presented at any well known events?

[skytrain10]

Evening Trevor
Does one-off mean it's a manufacturer's prototype that didn't go into production, or that it's an amateur's, built from scratch effort? The latter:ok: One source describes it as a homebuild - but no plans were ever offered that I can see.

Was it presented at any well known events? It may have been, but I cannot see there is any photo on the net that reflect's that. Let me check further.

Not sure what's happened with David...not seen anything that would have prompted the icon change:confused:

[skytrain10]

Trevor, I can't see that it has appeared at any major events. That's not to say it hasn't but merely that there is no obvious record of it having done so.

As this one is proving elusive, to help, it first flew in 1978 and remains current on the register today.

[Noyade]

Evening. :)

As this one is proving elusive, to help, it first flew in 1978

It is mate. I had a look in a woman's journal (Jane's) for 1978, but no luck.

More Nostagia, more aircraft history - that is what this forum is about. NOT a quiz forum. Sorry, but let us stick to the forum title. I am sure you can find another place for your quiz games.

Gentlemen. Reading this, is it time to move on? Seriously, there's is only a handful playing, maybe just continue via e-mail?

[MReyn24050]

Would it be the Bushby/Long Midget Mustang built by John Strether?

[skytrain10]

It is mate. I had a look in a woman's journal (Jane's) for 1978, but no luck. Morning mate, but you clearly didn't look close enough, as it is in Janes 78/79! Different photo though.

More Nostagia, more aircraft history - that is what this forum is about. NOT a quiz forum. Sorry, but let us stick to the forum title. I am sure you can find another place for your quiz games.
Sorry Graeme, but if the selection of aircraft we are covering is not Aviation History, then what is it? I would suggest that this particular forum is about as close as you can get to the subject matter.

Reading this, is it time to move on? Seriously, there's is only a handful playing, maybe just continue via e-mail? You may be right. For whatever reason the level of interest in SC, and the other challenges has wained. We are now down to 3-4 regulars with David's latest disappearance and with the recent comments about quizes I think others may now be hesitant to contribute.

[skytrain10]

Would it be the Bushby/Long Midget Mustang built by John Strether? Not the Midget Mustang Mel.

I appreciate there has been a bit of chat today, so just to remind everyone, this is from the same country that gave us the Extra, so it's a German design. See my 1458 post.

Closing down for the night now. Usual rules apply.

Good night:)

[MReyn24050]

Wallerkowski Hornisse perhaps?
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/0132375.jpg

[Noyade]

Dammit! The Homebuilt section! :ugh:

Looks somewhat different? And too many spectators blocking the view.

Nice work Mel.

By the power invested in me - your control Mel. (Unless Ken comes back later for a quick peek.)

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7990/img551p.jpg (http://img809.imageshack.us/i/img551p.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Graeme. Great Challenge Skytrain10 :ok:. Here is a Nostalgic aircraft:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Mel-1-1.jpg

[Noyade]

Evening Mel. :)

I see we've moved from the Chaco war to Spain? Not only Nostalgic but Historical. :ok:

Vultee V1-A?

[MReyn24050]

HI Graeme. Bedtime for me. You have it the Vultee V1-A converted into a bomber in the Spanish Civil War.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Almostasilhouette-1.jpg

You have control.

[Noyade]

Tempting fate there Mel, 964 pixels wide. :ooh::)

Thanks mate, but I'm not feeling very nostalgic or historical at the moment. Discovered the Welcome mat is gone...going away to see if I can find another one.

Open House.

[Karlark]

One needs to be very nostalgic for this open house one :):

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/35-9.jpg

Edit: Hopefully the thread sticks around, and Noyade too, not to mention the rest of you regulars. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Morning/Evening to all
Good call on my Wallerkowski Hornisse Mel:ok: Glad you like the challenge - trouble is the secret is out now...both Graeme and I have a 78/79 Jane's:)

Hopefully the thread sticks around, and Noyade too, not to mention the rest of you regulars Mmm, we will see. I'm really undecided now that our position has been made clear. But we do have a pretty unique competition here (I cannot see anything similar on the web) and it would be a shame to lose it simply because it is not perceived to "fit in" with the subject matter.

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon Ken (and any other lurkers) :),

I had an early(ish) start this morning (just in time to see Karlark get my Challenge). I noted Noyade's reservations about the apparent attitude to "Quiz" threads! I personally think the Mod's comments where aimed at the now removed Cryptic thread and feel that it did probably belong with the numerous other "word game" type threads in the Jet Blast Section (despite the fact that is was far more than a game and involved serious thought and subject knowledge).

The four current "Identification Quiz" threads, Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge, Which Aerodrome, What Cockpit and the newbie (exhaust/Intake) Challenge, all comply very well with the Aviation History and Nostalgia theme and the intentions of the thread's founder, involving as they do, a lot of serious delving into the subject matter and often presenting very interesting information and or pictures when the answer is revealed. I don't doubt for one minute that they are very popular threads and many "guests" casually look in, but don't participate. One has only to look at the number of times these threads have been viewed compared with other threads! Yes, I know they've been there a long time, but make a note of the rate that they grow every day, the numbers speak for themselves!!

However, they do need all more active members to make things tick along nicely, but even at their worst, they fair gallop along compared with other similar threads on other sites, where weeks can pass without a new post :eek:!

Here's one to keep things moving!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf225.jpg

[sabredog]

Caproni-Bergamasca AP-1?

[SincoTC]

Caproni-Bergamasca AP-1

That's the one SD :D

sabredog has control :ok:

PM's replied Graeme and Ken (it's just like my comment innit) :)

[sabredog]

Thank you,SincoTC.
Do to my ineptitude with Photobucket and blanking out problems,it must be;
Open House.

[skytrain10]

Afternoon all.

Sabredog, if you ever need any help with silhouettes I would be happy to do so or even do the odd one for you (obviously I would not participate in such circumstances).

Trevor, I confess I am a little confused....isn't the OH with Karl at present?

[SincoTC]

Thanks SD; but it's my ineptitude that's the problem, I'm afraid I had a senior moment on the new page and posted a challenge while Karlark's challenge was still active. Control must therefore revert to Karlark and his challenge on the previous page Post #7460 :O Sorreeee!!

Edit, yes it is Ken, I just noticed I'd got in a mucking fuddle with two posts by Karlark (I thought he'd called OH to both) and missed it with the new page and PM's to attend to :O:O

Here is the current Challenge from Karlark reposted with apologies!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/Chall7460.jpg

[sabredog]

Curtiss A-1 Triad?

[Karlark]

No worries Trevor. :)

Sabredog has it again, it is the Curtiss A-1 Triad. :ok:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/curtiss04_large.jpg

Saberdog's control.

[sabredog]

Thank you,Karlark. My apologies to you also, but I had not viewed your original challenge on the previous page.
Open House.

[evansb]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/YUP_AND_MORE.jpg

[skytrain10]

Looks like a "Razorback" P-47 Thunderbolt?

[evansb]

Yes, it is a Republic P-47 in the foreground. . Your turn.

[skytrain10]

Thanks evansb

Here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/26047394.jpg

[Karlark]

Is it another Vultee? V-12D?

[skytrain10]

Hi Karl, not a Vultee...in fact it's not American.

[Noyade]

Easter egg tidings. :)

French Ken?
Bloch? Somewhere between 150 and 157?

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme - and same tidings to you too:ok:

French Ken? Yes:ok:

Bloch? Somewhere between 150 and 157? No :(

Edit to say closing down for the night now - final clue, late 1930's, 1 built.
Usual rules apply

Good night:)

[Noyade]

Quick stab before your light goes out...Roussel 30?

[Karlark]

French, oui, that changes everything.

Looks to be the Morane-Saulnier MS.430.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/ms430_2.jpg

[Noyade]

Looks to be the Morane-Saulnier MS.430.

Hello mate. :)

Kill confirmed. Never thought of a trainer...I'm sure Ken would agree control is yours.

[Karlark]

Morning.. er.. afternoon (?) Graeme,

That one was a little tricky on Ken's part, it had 2 different looks to it depending which photo I was looking at. It does appear to be the correct one, though. I will venture out and post the next challenge.. almost a silhouette here anyway :):

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/37-12.jpg

[Noyade]

Close to 1030 Hrs here Karl.

I'll try for the Sukhoi I-14 (ANT-31)...?


That one was a little tricky on Ken's partHe is a tricky guy, our Ken. I didn't cotton onto the 'straight' piece behind the cockpit, I just assumed is was part of the fuselage.

[Karlark]

That's him. :ok:
Your control.

I wish they would quit messing with the clocks around here, keeping me off kilter from the rest of the world. 7:30 (1930) Easter Eve here. Merry Easter to you!

[Noyade]

Thanks Karl.

Keeping in step with your lovely Curtiss photo and Brian's very nostalgic and historical B-17/P-47 photo, here's mine.
I'm very partial to large coffee-table style picture books devoted to aircraft and warfare but unfortunately they tend to fall down in the captioning department. No mention is made of the airborne aircraft but I'm sure its already on Mel's list...

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8737/img554b.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/i/img554b.jpg/)

[Karlark]

Tupolev ANT-9 in the sky & possibly a Polikarpov PO2 on the ground?

OH if correct....

[Noyade]

Tupolev ANT-9

I believe so mate, with M-17 engines. Glad you agree. :ok:

Karl has requested Open House.

[SincoTC]

Easter Greetings to all,

To keep things moving here's the next silhouette.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf226.jpg

[Noyade]

Morning Trevor. Did Jesus leave an egg or two for you? :)
Dornier Do J Wal...?

[SincoTC]

Evening Graeme,

No eggs, but he's given us a beautiful spring morning :)!

Not a Dornier Wal mate, but there is a connection!

PM answered :ok:

[Noyade]

How about Russian then?
Bartini DAR?

[SincoTC]

It's not Russian! I don't want to mislead you, but the connection is more than just a resemblance, some sources say it was a licence built version, others that it was developed from the Dornier.

Its engines were also out of the same stable as the airframe!

[Noyade]

Its engines were also out of the same stable as the airframe!

There was a Kawasaki-Dornier Wal flying boat of 1930 - powered by Kawasaki engines?

[SincoTC]

Good connection, but another country off the list, it's not Japanese!

[Noyade]

Wiki talks about Wal production in...

Spain
Netherlands
and Italy.

Any one of those. :)

[SincoTC]

Oh yes, it is one of those :)

[Noyade]

Italy - Piaggio
SCMP
CMASA
Spain - CASA
Netherlands - Aviolanda.

Any of those companies?

Edit. Spanish Dornier Do J "Plus Ultra"

[skytrain10]

Morning Trevor, evening Graeme..the CMASA MF.5?

[SincoTC]

Narrowing down a bit, not Spanish or Dutch!

Don't forget I said same stable for the airframe and the engine, although some sources use the same name for both, it's not technically correct!

Edit: Good morning Ken :D!!

Sorry Graeme: the man from Wales has swooped and pipped you to the post.

It is the Fiat powered, airframe by Fiat subsidiary, the CMASA MF.5

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/mf5-1.jpg

skytrain10 has control :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor, however as Graeme did most of the work I think it is only fair that he has control......:)