Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[Noyade]

That's him Karl. :ok:

Your control.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4381/img694j.jpg (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/img694j.jpg/)

[Karlark]

Thanks Graeme,

It will have to be O.H....:zzz:

[Lightning Mate]

I hope the two of you, and hopefully others, are going to be around this weekend.

Oz is nine hours ahead of me and Minnesota six hours behind - I feel like piggy-in-the-middle.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/onefortheweekend.jpg

[SincoTC]

A'rtnoon LM :)

i'm in and out quite a bit but will keep in touch whenever possible!

Thissa a homebuilt ?? can't see prop but assume a tractor!

Out now catchya later!

[Lightning Mate]

Artnoon TC. :)

Tractor homebuilt - photo (x2) available if you want.

[skytrain10]

Evening...yet another hectic day:(

Is this the Smith Trainer David?

http://www.ultralightnews.ca/airventure04/images/smithtrainer.1.jpg

Correction, Smith Ranchero?

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken :)

Back somewhat later than anticipated! Looks like a good call to me :ok:

[skytrain10]

Evening Trevor. It was designed by Gene Smith, who designed the Backyard Flyer. It is also referenced as the Valley Engineering Ultralight Biplane. I mention that just in case that's the name being looked for:)

Hope you've had a good day. Been making the most of the nice weather and attending to the garden, sadly interrupted by work on rather too many occasions:(

[SincoTC]

Yes; it's been much the same with me, but also hampered by my dodgy Internet :\

David's picture is here EAA Young Eagles - 1001 Aviation Photos (http://www.youngeagles.org/photos/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&imageid=1001&text=&categoryid=15&box=&shownew=)

and I guess you've covered all options, so I'm sure he'd be happy for you to post if you want to :)

[Lightning Mate]

Nice shot Ken - the floor is all yours. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Evening David....thanks for that:ok:

Here's one I prepared earlier:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/7ee23146.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Evening Ken.

An engine with that profile has to be a gas turbine, surely....

[skytrain10]

has to be a gas turbine, surely.. Not sure what make engine it is but I am pretty sure it's not a gas turbine.

Edit to say, it's a VW engine.

[skytrain10]

Closing down for the night now.

European design, 1980's.

Usual rules apply:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Ken.

A homebuilt racer perchance ?

[skytrain10]

Morning David
A homebuilt racer perchance ? Homebuilt, yes:ok: Racer..it's not described as such although certainly looks like it should be:)

[Noyade]

Morning Jubileers. :)

Did you once tell me Ken that you considered Russia as part of Europe?

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme:)

Did you once tell me Ken that you considered Russia as part of Europe? Part of it is, but for the purposes of SC, I exclude it. However, you are close:ok:

How's things in the colonies...are you all celebrating with us?

[Noyade]

are you all celebrating with us? Yes mate. :)

I'm reading my Jubilee Souvenir magazine as I search for your long nosed machine.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5174/img698b.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/img698b.jpg/)

I met someone today who "touched" the Queen in 1954 when she visited Wagga. Small World ain't it? :)


Polish?
Mid 80's?

[skytrain10]

Good to see you entering in to the spirit of things.

I met someone today who "touched" the Queen I also know someone who falls into that category...but it was in the UK, not Wagga Wagga. I've shaken hands with someone who shook hands with Princess Margaret:)

Polish?
Mid 80's? Head north, 1983 :ok:

I'm reminded by eldest daughter that she has a letter sent to her written on behalf of the Queen:)

[Noyade]

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/448/img699h.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/img699h.jpg/)

Head north

I dunno mate. Swedish?

[skytrain10]

I dunno mate. Swedish? No, but the next clue, head east, would give it away. Finland:ok:

[Noyade]

Finland

OK. Thanks.

1980's.

Can you narrow that down a bit mate? :)
I have nothing in the later par of the decade. Early eighties?

[skytrain10]

Can you narrow that down a bit mate? I'll do my school teacher bit! Pay attention Noyade...what did I say earlier "Head north, 1983" :)

[Noyade]

"Head north, 1983"

Sorry sir. :uhoh:

No luck though. My books seem obsessed with either the PIK-21 Super Sytky or the Tervamaki JT-5, which is an autogyro.

Many built, or did you already tell me? :)

[Lightning Mate]

All this shaking hands and letter stuff....I can trump it all.

How about The Queens' Commendation for Valuable Service in the Air. :)

[Noyade]

Yeah, but did you "touch" her....:)

[skytrain10]

Many built, or did you already tell me? Just the one mate. It won an award for best homebuild of its year in Finland. So you just need to look for that famous book of "Finnish Aviation Awards of the Eighties" and you'll find it:)

[skytrain10]

The Queens' Commendation for Valuable Service in the Air Well that beats most of us I guess....good one David:ok:

Graeme....I know someone who has the The Queens' Commendation for Valuable Service in the Air.:)

[Lightning Mate]

Is the challenge extant and in a museum?

[skytrain10]

Is the challenge extant and in a museum? Still current of the Finnish register with a current CofA, so would assume still flying.

[Lightning Mate]

Is it classified as an ULAC ?

Got the whole register in front of me..............

[skytrain10]

Is it classified as an ULAC ? No

Got the whole register in front of me.............. Blimey....assuming you are using the official one it falls in to the Airplanes category, which includes homebuilds.

[Lightning Mate]

Well, it's got an awful lot of pages!

[skytrain10]

Well, it's got an awful lot of pages! Ah, but all the homebuilds and experimental aircraft in Group L start with the same letter. Back end of the alphabet!

[Noyade]

Heading off shortly Ken. Any chance of a photo/line drawing of the long-snout?

Making any progress David?

[MReyn24050]

OH-XIA, Iimu JK 1, I believe.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/normal_OHXIA-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Thought this would have gone by now, particularly as as far as I can see, there was only one such homebuild registered that year!

Here's the photo

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/25e8b170.jpg

OH-XIA, Iimu JK 1, I believe.
Edit, our post's crossed Mel. Yes, it is the Finnish 1983 award winning homebuild, the Kyllonen JK-1 Iimu:ok:

Mel has control

[MReyn24050]

Got there just before you posted. Will have to be Open House I am afraid. Great challenge.

[Noyade]

Nicely done Mel. :ok:

Did it have a Sub-Type number/designation? :)

Small but easy....

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2950/img693u.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/img693u.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Curtiss Hawk 75A?

[Noyade]

Done. :ok:

Back to you.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme...another easy one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/bacf8e27.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Yeah, but did you "touch" her....http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

One does not touch Her Majesty except by the hand when one is offered hers.

p r o t o c o l...................

[Noyade]

p r o t o c o lWhat's that?

Remember Paul Keating....:)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3592/tq2.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/i/tq2.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

NOT the way to do it!!!

[Noyade]

American Ken?

[skytrain10]

American Ken? Yep:ok:

Me thinks the answer to your earlier question was no:)

[Noyade]

Stabbing quickly. Twin Vega?

[skytrain10]

Stabbing quickly. Twin Vega? Umm, whatever that is...no!

[Noyade]

Umm, whatever that is...no!

Made ya look though!
Yeah, I made it up. :)
Obviously I'm tired. Cheers.

[evansb]

The plywood clad Fairchild AT-21 Gunner ?

[skytrain10]

Made ya look though! I confess I double checked Vega Aircraft just in case there was twin version:)

Sounds a good name though....they should have made one:ok:

[skytrain10]

The plywood clad Fairchild AT-21 Gunner ? Morning Bri. That's the one :ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/b1d6e52c.jpg

evansb has control:D

[evansb]

Here is the next challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120603.jpg

Oops...this one's been posted before. With that in mind, I declare OPEN HOUSE.

[Lightning Mate]

The Defiant - did I post it before ?

[skytrain10]

Defiant David? No it's the Solitaire, which we have indeed had before.

[skytrain10]

As it's open house:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/e9b7e3d2.jpg

[skytrain10]

Well, I was thinking this wouldn't last too long, but there again...?

American, 1980's. Doesn't look like it's in Aerofiles, which is a little odd as there are quite a few of these around.

Closing down for the night now, so usual rules apply.:ok:

[Noyade]

Enjoy your shut-eye Ken. :ok:

Homebuilt/kitplane?

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme
Homebuilt/kitplane? Yes, but I have seen it listed as a LSA. First flight was 1984, relaunched under a new name in 1986.

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken.

Is it single-seat ?

[skytrain10]

Yes, single seat David:ok:

[Noyade]

Hi Ken. First thought I had when saw it was a miniature version of the Siai-Marchetti SM 1019A. Now I know it's not, but is it the same layout? The cabin has a distinct 'drop' at the back meeting the fuselage line?

[Noyade]

Or a scaled down Bird Dog?

The BAC (Brutsche Aircraft Corporation) Freedom 28?

[Lightning Mate]

Did this not cause much discussion here last October ?

[skytrain10]

Siai-Marchetti SM 1019A There is a similarity in shape, but certainly not size. No connection Graeme
The BAC (Brutsche Aircraft Corporation) Freedom 28? Not that, but similar in shape.
Or a scaled down Bird Dog? Again similar in shape, but no connection.
The original concept of this aircraft was a reduced scale version of a popular light aircraft, but the obvious difference is the drop down behind the wing. So imagine this with a straight line from behind the wing to the base of the tail and you'll get a better idea.....:)

[Lightning Mate]

Ah......back to my bumper list then.

I suspect I've been doing the same as Graeme. :uhoh:

Capella single-seat ?

...er no - the tail's wrong.

[skytrain10]

I do find it odd that this aircraft does not seem to be in Aerofiles. Or at least it's not listed under the original name it was produced under, nor the current name. There is howeverplenty of reference on the web, as well as photo's. Unclear as to whether the aircraft remains available, but from articles I have seen it probably is...it doesn't help that the manufacturer doesn't have a website!

[skytrain10]

Capella single-seat ? No, but a very similar aircraft. I think this design predates the Capella though.

[Lightning Mate]

Are the wings foldable/removable ?

Oi Graeme - help!!!

[skytrain10]

Are the wings foldable/removable ? Not that I can see.

This aircraft design won an award at a major aviation show in Florida in 1983. The designer is also known for a very retro looking single and two seat open cockpit monoplane, which first appeared in the 1986.

[skytrain10]

I'm sure it would help if you can work out what aircraft this was originally based on. They share the same model number:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Is that number a 3 ?

Wozzat Sun 'n Fun ?

[skytrain10]

Is that number a 3 ? Yes, prefixed by a letter.

Wozzat Sun 'n Fun ? Yep

[Lightning Mate]

Well this morning I found the Hipps J3 Kitten - but it isn't that.

[Lightning Mate]

Sometimes you win.....sometimes you lose.

I'll pop back later to see how it's going.

[skytrain10]

Well this morning I found the Hipps J3 Kitten - but it isn't that. You should have looked further. It is the Hipps J3 Kitten - originally launched as the Anglin J3 Kitten, which was based on a scaled down Piper J3C-65 Cub:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/596cb33b.jpg

LM has control

[Lightning Mate]

Morning/evening all.

I didn't come back last night because I convinced myself it wasn't the Kitten. The fin looked wrong.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/bhol.jpg

[skytrain10]

Morning David. Other than the fin shape (:)), yours reminds me of a stretched Cosmic Wind. I'm sure it's not but I assume this is an American racer?

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken. :)

It's indeed not the Cosmic Wind, but you're correct about the rest.

[skytrain10]

Is it the Ast Special "Shoestring"?

[Lightning Mate]

The Shoestring it is. :ok:

The Condor Shoestring (originally known as the Ast Special and the
Mercury Air Shoestring) was a Formula One racing aircraft built by Carl
and Vincent Ast to compete in the Cleveland National Air Races in 1949. It was a
highly streamlined mid-wing cantilever monoplane with fixed tailwheel
undercarriage. The mainwheels were covered with spats. The original aircraft
(registered N16V) was extensively rebuilt in 1965 and 1974, and by that
time had won fourteen first places, three second places and four third places.

Over to you.

[skytrain10]

Thanks David. I recall seeing it's successor, the Shoestring Polecat, which came to the UK back in the early 80's.
Unfortunately will have to be Open House as tied up with work for the next hour or so.

[Lightning Mate]

Work???

Oh dear. :uhoh:

I wonder if Graeme is about.................

[skytrain10]

I'll try and prep something shortly

[Lightning Mate]

:ok::ok:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/sleeve.jpg

[skytrain10]

Here we go...easy one:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/e288d9af.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

A Sonex jobber?

[skytrain10]

A Sonex jobber? Not a Sonex, but there is a connection.

[Noyade]

Morning gents.

Monnett Monex Ken?

[skytrain10]

Monnett Monex Not the Monex Graeme, but you are very very close:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Xenos possibly - evening mate. :)

sonex spelled backwards innit!

[skytrain10]

Xenos possibly Not the Xenos David - I think that's actually a Sonex design.

[Lightning Mate]

Moni then....

[Lightning Mate]

Possibly G-BMVU.

[skytrain10]

Moni then.... That's the one, Monnett Moni:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d078f3c0.jpg

LM has control

[Lightning Mate]

Good to see Graeme on thread.

How's the telly going mate?

A bit of psychedalia...

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/psychy.jpg

[skytrain10]

Looks like a Fletcher FU-24?

[Lightning Mate]

Smartass!!!

Yours again. :ok:

[Noyade]

How's the telly going mate?

Just finished watching The World at War - episode 9 - Stalingrad. :ooh:

[Lightning Mate]

Good series that.

What about the Jubilee weekend - do you have it out there?

[Noyade]

We're a bit slow here mate, Queens Birthday long weekend is this weekend.

[Lightning Mate]

I would have thought that the London proceedings would have been beamed around the world.

[Noyade]

Let me check the telly guide....

[Noyade]

......nope.

[Lightning Mate]

Well, I am surprised.

psst - schhh...I think Ken's wearing a short sleeved shirt....

[Noyade]

Hang on....Channel WIN....concert....Rolf Harris is comparing....

[Lightning Mate]

We watched the whole thing last night.

Rolf Harris actually PAINTED his shirt with the Union flag!!!!

[skytrain10]

Thanks David...a little busy, and wearing short sleeves, but here is the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/7e9bf4fa.jpg

[Noyade]

Dammit! I've seen this on AviaQuiz. Mel are you still here?

I replica of a French aircraft for a TV series made from a Noorduyn Norseman.

[Noyade]

Google is amazing.

Latécoère 17

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4913/15075233.jpg (http://img825.imageshack.us/i/15075233.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

I replica of a French aircraft for a TV series made from a Noorduyn Norseman. Your memory serves you well Graeme:ok:

The World at War - episode 9 - Stalingrad.
Saw that on Friday:ok:

[skytrain10]

Latecoere 17 it is Graeme:ok:

Noyade has control:D

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken. :)

This is on Mel's list, but it was when we went through the AviaQuiz phase in 2010? So this would be the first time as a silhouette...(I think).

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2530/img675.jpg (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/img675.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

I thought of removing it before uploading, but I like quick endings Carson! http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Remember that comment Graeme?

[Noyade]

Yeah....:)

[Lightning Mate]

An Italian Job?

[Noyade]

Not Italian mate.

[Lightning Mate]

Twin-engined though?

Chinese?

JL-8/K-8 Karakorum perhaps.

[Noyade]

Not Chinese.
Twin-engined.

Famous for doing this on November 3, 1952...

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9412/img706.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/img706.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

F3 Skynight v Yak ?

[Noyade]

That's him mate. Quick endings, eh? :ok::)

The first air-to-air victory occurred on 3 November 1952 in a United States Marine Corps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps) F3D-2 piloted by Major (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_%28United_States%29) William T. Stratton, Jr. and radar operator Master Sergeant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Sergeant) Hans C. Hoglind of VMF(N)-513 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMA-513).[7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_F3D_Skyknight#cite_note-Grossnick_p768-6)

Your control. Gonna watch some of that concert and head to bed. Cheers.

[Lightning Mate]

Unfortunately I now have an eighty mile round trip to see my mother, so it will have to be Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

Blimey - it's still open, so I'll take my own OH....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/myoh.jpg

[skytrain10]

Aero L-60 Brigadyr?

[Lightning Mate]

That will do nicely mate.

Over to you. :ok:

edit: understanding failure - your light is on but you do not appear under the Currently Active Users list. :confused:

[skytrain10]

Thanks David.

understanding failure - your light is on but you do not appear under the Currently Active Users list. Your light remained on for nearly an hour after I posted - but must admit I didn't check the active users list:)

Here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/59aa5225.jpg

[skytrain10]

Night shift clues....homebuild, 1990's.

Closing down for the night so usual rules apply:ok:

[Noyade]

Before you go! American?

[skytrain10]

Before you go! American? Unfortunately I went! Yes American, but not US.

[Noyade]

Hello Ken. :)

Yes American, but not US

Brazil?

[Lightning Mate]

Evening mate. :)

Did you enjoy the concert ?

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme
Brazil? Nope, North America. Surprised you haven't got this by now:)
Morning David:)

[Noyade]

Morning mate. :)

Didn't watch it all, but what I did see was good.

[Noyade]

Murphy Maverick?

Surprised you haven't got this by nowWhy's that?

[Noyade]

Murphy Rebel?

[Noyade]

Norman Nordic?

[skytrain10]

Norman Nordic? Sounds like it should be a book "The Adventures of Norman the Nordic" :) Nope.

Not a Murphy product either, but you are in the right country:ok:

Why's that? Have you thrown away your Leisure Aviation Directory?:)

[Noyade]

Have you thrown away your Leisure Aviation Directory?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gifNo, but you mentioned the 90's?
Oldest one I have is 2004

[Lightning Mate]

Is it from Ultravia ?

[skytrain10]

Not Ultravia David.
No, but you mentioned the 90's? I did, but the Druine Turbulent is in the 2007 edition....they were around in the 60's!
To be clear, this aircraft is still available.

Edit to say, David, I feel Graeme has an unfair advantage here, providing of course he can find it! To try to even the odds, first flew in 1994.

[Lightning Mate]

Well, I have a list of all Canadian distributors/manufacturers of kit/homebuilt aircraft and nothing's coming up.

It's back to that sharp slope to the rear of the cabin again, which must be a clue. Does it also come as a trike?

Are we looking at Quebec?

I'll sit back and watch Graeme. :\

[Noyade]

I'll sit back and watch Graeme. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wibble.gif

Well, we're in deep **** then. :)

A-Z

Acrolite 2M?

[Lightning Mate]

Annuver thought - is it a clone of summat else?

edit - shot mate. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Does it also come as a trike? Not that I can see.
Are we looking at Quebec? No, Ontario

[Noyade]

Aviation Normand Dube Aerocruiser Plus?

(The photos are too bloody small in those magazines Ken)

[skytrain10]

Got there in the end Graeme, yes the Acrolite 2M:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/a88c6564.jpg

Noyade has control

[Lightning Mate]

Wossa wrong with the Acrolite 2M Graeme?

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken.

Sleeveless. OH.

:(

[Lightning Mate]

Well, get sumfin done then. ;)

[Noyade]

OK. Working on it....

[Noyade]

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5885/img714i.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/img714i.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Mil Mi-10K?

[Noyade]

Sorry mate, Internet is down to 64 KBS. Pages are loading very slooowly...

Your control Ken. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Sorry mate, Internet is down to 64 KBS. Pages are loading very slooowly... I know the feeling mate. We've had all the pledges here of fast internet in rural areas, but the reality is it will never happen simply because of the costs:(

Another 1-view!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/a7d0f347.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

....and "fibre-optic city" Bournemouth ain't happened either!!

Yours a Yank?

[skytrain10]

Yours a Yank? No, a European design.

....and "fibre-optic city" Bournemouth ain't happened either!! If they can't sort out Bournemouth area (must be 500k population including Poole, Christchurch etc) we definitely don't stand much chance!

[Lightning Mate]

Toying with Sipavia.

French?

[Noyade]

Looks like an early Punnett silhouette?
From the 60's?

[Lightning Mate]

You and your :mad: books!!!!

[Noyade]

Rule Britannia!
The Beagle B.206?

[Lightning Mate]

...whhaat...?

[Noyade]

You and your http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/censored.gif books!!!!

:eek::)

Open house if it is then. :ok:

[Noyade]

...whhaat...?

A few differences, but I think it is...

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2338/img717q.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/img717q.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Then again, maybe not...

[Lightning Mate]

Bugger - the X model.

The production one is this...

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/beagle_b-206.gif

[skytrain10]

Rule Britannia!
The Beagle B.206? Spot on, in this case the 206Y :ok: I wondered how long the curved wingtips would put everyone off:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/a0de2e1e.jpg

Noyade has declared Open House

[skytrain10]

The production one is this... Where did you find that David....definitely NOT a production 206, unless it's an early drawing?

[Lightning Mate]

Aviastar mate.

(and I did fly it once)

[skytrain10]

Aviastar mate. Mmm, in that case they have it wrong...I'm wondering if they've used the 3-view from the M218?

(and I did fly it once) A long time ago then! :) Presume that would have be the B.206R Basset? Which has more or less the same plan view as the 206X but with extended wings.

[Lightning Mate]

1970 if I remember.

[skytrain10]

Got one up your sleeve David?

[Lightning Mate]

Several mate, including something different, but I have to go offline in forty minutes and won't be able to get back until around 1630, so it would not be fair.

[Noyade]

Well, now that the books are open. :)

Let the scanning begin!

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3304/img716u.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/img716u.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

A Japanese copy....?

[Noyade]

No Nips involved with this one mate.

[skytrain10]

Saab 2000?

[Noyade]

Yah, is the Sveedish Saab 2000 Ken. :ok:
Vell don. Yars Kontrol.

Did I get the accent right?

Cheers and goodnight. :)

[Lightning Mate]

See you later Ken. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme, and goodnight:)
Looks like everyone has gone. I wont be around later this afternoon so will be unable to monitor.
Not much point in posting so better make it Open House

[Karlark]

I caught a photo of this flying over my house the other day:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/36-3.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Artnoon Kl. :)

Presumably American.

[Karlark]

Artnoon LM.. yes indeed it is American. :)

[Lightning Mate]

Beech.........? :\

[evansb]

Dee Howard 500D ?

[Karlark]

Not a Beech.

[Karlark]

Ahh, too easy for Brian. It is the the Howard 500 :ok:

Howard 500 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_500)

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/i-5009718889134825809-M.jpg

evanb's control.

[evansb]

Thanks. Here is an "almost silhouette" challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120606.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/5860922047_0d08a14fd0.jpg

Ireland N-2B Neptune seaplane

Well, it's one of them anyway.

[evansb]

It is an Ireland N2C, but close enough for me. LM has control.

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Brian - my edit did say one of them anyway.

Photoshop does some great things.........

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/joy.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Closing down - usual rules................

[Noyade]

:ok:

Mann & Grimmer M.1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_%26_Grimmer_M.1)

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4634/2081g.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/2081g.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme, I'll second that.

Go for it:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

That's the one Graeme. :ok:

You have control.

[Noyade]

Morning. :)

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3874/lightconc.jpg (http://img850.imageshack.us/i/lightconc.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Evening Oz. :)

....:\......

Sorry Ken - morning. :)

[skytrain10]

Morning/Evening.
Graeme - I recognise it - that tail is very distinctive - just can't remember what it's called:(

[Noyade]

G'day mate. :)

Picked this one just for you. The designer of this aircraft was an ex-RAF fighter pilot who at one time was involved in the design of the Lightning and the Concorde.

Well, so I read...somewhere.

[Lightning Mate]

'snot a Koolhoven is it ?

[Noyade]

And G'day Ken. :)

[Noyade]

'snot a Koolhoven is it ?

No. He was a Brit who moved to the USA.

[Noyade]

The fighter pilot/designer was Geoffrey Siers.

[Noyade]

Aircraft is named after a fast swimming fish with sharp teeth.

Lots of clues, as I have to leave soon.

[Lightning Mate]

Barracuda ?

[Noyade]

Jeffair Barracuda. :ok: Your control mate.

Jeffair Barracuda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffair_Barracuda)

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8134/83403507.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/83403507.jpg/)

Catch ya later.

[skytrain10]

Good call David....just couldn't think of the name.

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate.

Just for you at the moment.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/thursday-1.png

[Lightning Mate]

Are you still out there ?.................

[skytrain10]

Busy with work, but a quick break for lunch...is it the Lockheed-Martin RQ-170 Sentinel?

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry mate - it isn't.

However, you are on the right track. ;).......................

[skytrain10]

Sorry mate - it isn't. I admit I didn't really look too closely, but now I have I can see there are some significant differences.

[Lightning Mate]

I can give you a cryptic photographic clue if you wish........

[skytrain10]

Found a photo, but it is incorrectly captioned as a Sentinel!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/95c9f89e.jpg

This looks remarkably like your machine:)

[Lightning Mate]

What's that called and how many engines does it have ?

edit: how many of those were built ?

[skytrain10]

What's that called and how many engines does it have ?

edit: how many of those were built ?
Is this some subtle clue? Back to work now, but will look in later.

[Lightning Mate]

Just found your pic.

I don't think they are the same machine - there was only ever one of the challenge.

[skytrain10]

Had to check again....just found mine with the correct ID...it's a Lockheed-Martin P-175 Polecat. Just the one built.

If by any chance correct will have to be Open House

[Lightning Mate]

No by chance - it is indeed the Polecat. :D

Looks like that could possibly be the end of play for a while.

However................

Skytrain has declared Open House. :\

edit: I'm resisting it Ken cawz I would rather wait until you're back. :)

[Lightning Mate]

For the UK evening / Oz night shift / Canada lunchtime....

...pure artistry..............

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/art.jpg

[Noyade]

Canadian mate?

Bohemican International TST-6 Duo?

At work tonight, so must be OH if it is. Cheers. :)

[Lightning Mate]

That's the one, but it's Czech. :ok:

Noyade has declared Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

An extremely quiet day, so something's better than nothing......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/purpleday.jpg

[Noyade]

British mate?

[Lightning Mate]

Evening mate. :)

Not British comrade.

[Noyade]

Morning mate. :)

Ruskie. Pre-1914?

Trevor was very good at these, where is the 'swooper' these days?

[Lightning Mate]

Ruskie. Pre-1914? :ok:

I have been wondering where everyone is.

I have to leave in just over an hour so,

First Contest of Russian Military Aeroplanes 1911. :)

edit: 100hp Argus

[Noyade]

Jacob Modestovich Hackel's Type VII....?

[Noyade]

I have been wondering where everyone is.

I've been sick as the proverbial dog since last Sunday and worked yesterday evening and today. Well, that's my excuse.

[Lightning Mate]

Don't you mean Gakkel?

The Shavrov Gakkel 7 it is.

All yours mate. :D

edit: do you like my new silhouette style ?

I've been sick as the proverbial dog since last Sunday and worked yesterday
evening and today. Well, that's my excuse.

You should drink more mate......

[Noyade]

Don't you mean Gakkel?Dunno mate, but I've got a Hackel.....:)

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1548/img733x.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/img733x.jpg/)

Either way, thanks and here's another one...

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2283/img731y.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/img731y.jpg/)

[Noyade]

edit: do you like my new silhouette style ?

Looks good...kinda "ghostly". Son is learning photoshop at school and promises to teach the old man a trick or two....we'll see.

[Lightning Mate]

Just nb'd your edit.

She is better thanks, but it is becoming more likely that she will not be released from the convalecent hospital.

She is only 32 miles from me now, and I'm visiting her this afternoon. By the time I get back you will be :zzz:.

Son is learning photoshop at school and promises to teach the old man a trick or
two....we'll see.

Good. Ask him about the glowing edge tool.

[Noyade]

She is better thanks

Glad to hear that mate. Gotta look after the mums of the world. :ok:
Sincere best wishes.

[Lightning Mate]

Bomber or transport ?

[Noyade]

Transport.

"Revolutionary in design""

[Noyade]

David.

Just re-looked at Mel's list. I now see it in the Zeppelin area, whereas I personally found it amongst a staaken of books.

[Noyade]

Completed in 1920.

[Lightning Mate]

Must be the Zeppelin-Staaken E4/20 then.

Graeme, I must go now, so why don't you throw another one up.

Apologies mate.

[Noyade]

That's the one. :ok:

Apologies mate.

Not a problem. Good luck. I'll leave it at Open House for the time being.

Cheers.

[Lightning Mate]

I might just take that in about five hours time if nobody else has.

Cheers mate - hope to see you tomorrow. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

I'll take the win back.

Another "ghost" from the past......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/bluewater-2.jpg

[Noyade]

Evening mate. Hope all is well.

Are we still in Russia?

[Lightning Mate]

Morning mate.

No, we're in Europe.

[Noyade]

Bugger. Big place that Europe. :)

Another 'feeling' I have (apart from hunger) - Italian?

[Lightning Mate]

Non mon ami.

[Noyade]

Non mon ami.

Thanks. :)


Mate, you must be tired after today. I'm getting breakfast and heading out shortly. I'll look at your flying-boat later today.

Cheers. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Yep - I'm off to bed - see you later.

Regards,

Jérôme et François...... :)

[Noyade]

Jérôme et François
Not sure what that's about mate, but I think I got lucky...?

Donnet-Denhaut D.D.10

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9752/54918997.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/54918997.jpg/)