Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[skytrain10]

As its very quiet, another clue, it was designed as a racer, hence its association to the previous challenge.

[skytrain10]

Have decided to withdraw the challenge as either nobody around or it's just too difficult!

OPEN HOUSE

[RegDep]

No way would we allow this good thread to slip into oblivion.

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/image001-1-3-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Hi Reg, good to see you back. Hope you had a good break?
Is your heading away from the viewer?
A LSA or homebuild?

[RegDep]

Hi Skytrain,

Yes, had a nice trip.

The challenge is heading towards the viewer, and is not homebuilt.

[skytrain10]

Reg, sorry not had much chance to look at this. Is it the Lambert M212 Mission?

[RegDep]

Good morning Skytrain. No, not Lambert. Clue: 2010s.

[skytrain10]

Morning Reg...European, maybe Czech design? Would this be from an established manufacturer?

[Noyade]

Morning.

The starboard wing-tip looks like it's grown a crab-like claw?

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme....yes been looking at the "claw", can't find anything that matches:ugh:

[Noyade]

OK. Time to stab blindly.

American?
Grumman Tiger?

[Noyade]

Have decided to withdraw the challenge as either nobody around or it's just too difficult!Sorry about your challenge Ken but I didn't spend much of the weekend at home. All efforts to google ended up with some sort of RC aircraft. It's still etched in my brain! :)

[Ridge Runner]

Morning all!!!

Serbian????

Edit: oo er ....... is it still up or not?? Thanks mate

[RegDep]

Good morning gentlemen!

My challenge is not European. The claw is probably a pair of probes, for a specific reason I guess.

[skytrain10]

Morning Martin...current challenge is Reg's Post 2753. Cheers

[SincoTC]

Morning all :)

Been offline all weekend!

Reg, good to you back :ok:, is youirs the Mahindra C-NM5 ??

Will be in the workshop most of the day away from PC, so OH please if correct. Sorry you had a quiet time with your challenge Ken, it looked like a good one! Maybe see it again some time ??

Edit: Good evening Graeme and thanks :ok:

[Noyade]

And the swooper strikes! :ok:

[RegDep]

Yes, Swooper, it is the Indian Mahindra C-NM5 prototype in its maiden flight.

Open House, as requested.

And Skytrain, I sure worked on you challenge, but to no avail :uhoh:.

[Noyade]

Another swooper....I was was attacked twice today...:ooh:...

Magpies behaving badly › Nature Features (ABC Science) (http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2002/07/04/2588235.htm)

Wear an icecream container on your head when crossing magpie flightpaths

Yeah...right...:rolleyes:

[Noyade]

I've got plenty of jet exhausts, but no silhouettes.

Ken, time for the "American Racer with Pusher Prop"....?

[skytrain10]

Now I really know why Ned Kelly had a tin hat!

[Noyade]

Interesting that you mention Ned, he made the news again earlier this month...

131 years on, Ned Kelly mystery is laid to rest (http://www.theage.com.au/national/131-years-on-ned-kelly-mystery-is-laid-to-rest-20110901-1joaq.html)

[skytrain10]

Ken, time for the "American Racer with Pusher Prop"....?
Does that mean you now know what it is? :):):).

Guys, do you want me to post it again?

[Noyade]

Does that mean you now know what it is? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gifhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gifhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif.No.....:(

Need more clues.

Guys, do you want me to post it again? :ok: But I can't stay too long. As the "swooper" always says, "early start tomorrow"...

[skytrain10]

Back by popular demand, Friday's unsolved challenge:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/b5410e94.jpg

So far we know:
- post 2000 design
- 1 built
- American (USA)
- racing aircraft

The designer has also piloted a number of racing aircraft.

[Noyade]

Is the engine a turboprop? Big dorsal scoop?

[skytrain10]

Is the engine a turboprop? Big dorsal scoop? Not a turboprop - a V8!
Dorsal scoop - yes.

Although designed primarily as a racer there was another target in mind - which has never been achieved.

[RegDep]

Well, I found some doctoral thesis stuff about designing a pusher for Red Bull races…. :ooh:.

Is there a canard?

[skytrain10]

Don't think this would qualify for the Red Bull competition.

Is there a canard? No canards Reg.

[Noyade]

another target in mind

World speed record for a prop driven aircraft?

[skytrain10]

World speed record for a prop driven aircraft?
Yes, and......???
(what has NEVER been done?)

[RegDep]

Go supersonic with a prop plane in a level flight?

[Noyade]

Yes, and......???
(what has NEVER been done?)

You sound like a schoolteacher Ken! :)

Ah....World speed record with pilot and a passenger?! Tandem seating, cockpit looks big enough?...sir.

[skytrain10]

Go supersonic with a prop plane in a level flight? That was the aim Reg...to be the first propellor driven aircraft to exceed Mach 1.

Tandem seating, cockpit looks big enough?...sir. Single seater Graeme.

You sound like a schoolteacher Ken! Enough of that cheek...detention for you sonny!!:):)

[skytrain10]

Here's the real thing:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/3873f1ef.jpg

[Noyade]

Rose Mach Buster Aircraft?

Edit...Nope.

[Noyade]

The Rose Renegade?

[skytrain10]

The Rose Renegade?
Excellent, well done Graeme:ok:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/3873f1ef.jpg

Yes, it's David Rose's unlimited air racer, the Renegade.
Go to:
BARNSTORMERS.COM AVIATION EVENTS (http://www.barnstormers.com/EVENTS/040101/040101-08.html)
I don't believe it ever competed or even flew. He later went for the installation of a J85 jet engine!

Noyade has control

[RegDep]

Goodness Gracious Me Propellor powered supersonic flight (http://www.flyafrica.info/forums/showthread.php?42090-Propellor-powered-supersonic-flight)

[Noyade]

skytrain10 (http://www.pprune.org/members/281990-skytrain10)

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wales, UK
Age: 52
Posts: 4,000

Congrats mate! :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken.

I remember the Mach Buster from Aeroplane Monthly quite a while back but never saw the "Renegade" before.

Plenty of jet pipes, but no silhouettes....open house.

[RegDep]

Hehee, Graeme What's so bad about sonic booms? - Page 2 (http://forums.jetcareers.com/general-topics/111077-whats-so-bad-about-sonic-booms-2.html)

Congratulations Skytrain. 4,000 is a hansome figure.

[HappyPass]

*Pop!*
Hi all!

I'll take it with an easy one... but I want the name, not just the model...

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3711/scchallenge.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/scchallenge.jpg/)

[Noyade]

G'day HP.

Project?

[RegDep]

Allied code name?

[Noyade]

Some sort of Sea Fury hybrid racer?

Stab.
Stab.

[HappyPass]

ProjectIt flew, and quite successfully I might add...

Allied code name? Airframe name. ;)

Sea Fury Not quite...

racerhot... but try not to cook it too much.

[Noyade]

Not quite...

Grumman Bearcat?

(Continuing to frenzy stab)

[skytrain10]

Is it the Rare Bear racer conversion of the F8F Bearcat?

[RegDep]

Ach. Rare Bear.

Booohoooo :{ Just wasted a minute. Typed Thunderscreech first and then went back to check.

[Noyade]

hot... but try not to cook it too much. "Rare" Bear....god I'm slow....:(

[HappyPass]

Is it the Rare Bear racer conversion of the F8F Bearcat?

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9721/solutionj.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/solutionj.jpg/)

That one! skytrain has control. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Happy Pass and good to see you back:ok:

This one is not a racer:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/aa06e0b2.jpg

Thanks for the good wishes on achieving the 4000 mark...a way to go to catch up some of you!

[HappyPass]

This one is not a racer

Ah-ha! I thought so! :E

[skytrain10]

Ah-ha! I thought so! Though I'd help you along there...I guess you could race with it - it would just take a long time to complete the course:).

[skytrain10]

To keep things moving...its British.

[RegDep]

Noble Hardman Snowbird mk.IV

[Noyade]

To keep things moving...its British. That's very Noble of you Ken. :ok:

[skytrain10]

That's very Noble of you Ken. I thought it was too!

Noble Hardman Snowbird mk.IV
Thats the one Reg:ok:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/de5fa9b5.jpg

RegDep has control

[RegDep]

Thanks Skytrain,

Another from my legacy sleeve

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/image001-11.jpg

[RegDep]

Bored everybody?

OK, guilty on two counts out of three:

1. Unmanned
2. Repeat (but different angle/view)


But 3: It flew.

[SincoTC]

Not bored Reg, just busy.

Finished walking doggie and having a bite to eat before back to work!

I think that's the latest Fanwing incarnation, the FanWing OHS Twin-Tail from Japan (I think)??

Sorry, but it's got to be an OH again if correct, gotta go now :(

Good to see HP back again too and Ken and Martin's lights are still on :)

[RegDep]

Yes TC, it is the FanWing OHS Twin-Tail, last posted on 11th Oct 2010.

TC has requested Open House.

[skytrain10]

As its Open House....a European design:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/da3714ae.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

have you beeen on the RC sites again, Ken? :)

Seriously, is it German?

[RegDep]

Motor glider. Sabca Jullien SJ-1

[skytrain10]

Not from the RC sites Martin...although it may be there of course?

Not German.

Yes Reg, its classified as a motor glider,

[RegDep]

Sabca Jullien SJ-1, O-BAFF. Belgian.

[skytrain10]

Sabca Jullien SJ-1
That's the one Reg:ok:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/ee253799.jpg
RegDep has control.

[RegDep]

Thanks Skytrain!

Let's tackle this aspect of aviation next

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/image001-12.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Cartercopter, Reg???

[RegDep]

Yes RR, Carter Aviation Technologies' CarterCopter Prototype Personal Air Vehicle (PAV)

Over to you :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks Reg. Try this one ....

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune260911A.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Apologies but I'm leaving the office soon and will be out for a while...... RR

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry chaps, challenge withdrawn.... been done before! :O The Kari-Keen 90B. So.....

OPEN HOUSE

[evansb]

And another one:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/FRIEND_OR_FOE.jpg

[diesel addict]

If it isn't a Lysander it ought to be !

There was one with a dorsal B & P four Browning turret - but I thought it was only ever a mock-up...

Anywhere close ??

[RegDep]

Looks like a Lysander but is not. Wrong tail.

Taking that back

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/Bildschirmfoto2011-09-26um193155.png

[evansb]

diesel addict is correct:ok: The Westland Lysander. Your turn.

[diesel addict]

Thank you, evansb
I admired your post of the actual document.
Were not some of those wartime recco books dreadful !

Open House please gentlemen.....

[RegDep]

Let's try this then. We have not had it, but as far as I can remember it has been proposed a couple of times as a solution, so should not be too difficult

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/Bildschirmfoto2011-09-26um154808.jpg

[skytrain10]

Evening Reg....first chance to look for a while.
A familiar planform but can't immediately think what it is...are we looking at a high wing, tricycle undercarriage, swept tail?

[skytrain10]

Having just proposed its high wing, I'm thinking it could be the Evektor EuroStar (or SportStar). Can't find a 3-view but the wings/tail look right and some models don't have wheel spats. Not very confident so will keep looking for a while!

[RegDep]

Funny. This is the way it went the previous times, too.

Tricycle, swept tail, but low wing and not Evektor, as far as I understand, and as far as the type certificate calls it.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Reg...so low wing?

[RegDep]

Yes, low wing.

[skytrain10]

Something from Storm? The Storm 400?

[RegDep]

Not Storm. Being generous and pretty ready for bed: Go back to one response of yours above and see what I did not refute…...

[skytrain10]

Reg, calling it a day now. From your comment I guess there is a connection with the EuroStar (or SportStar to those in the US), but not sure what! Only other machine that I have found that seems to look about right is the Aero AT-3 or AT-4.

Anyway good night - no doubt Graeme or Bri will sort it out overnight, unless of course Trevor swoops in :)

[RegDep]

Eurostar was it. Just fix the rest.

[skytrain10]

Eurostar....well there's the Evektor EV-97 Eurostar. That was previously known as the Aerotechnik EV-97 Eurostar, and I believe in the UK it was marketed for a while as the Cosmik EV-97 etc etc. I can't any other Eurostars!! Then there is the TeamEurostar range....which is just a homebuild Eurostar.

Going to shut down now, so if any of those are correct make it Open House:ok:

Night

[SincoTC]

Swoop, swoop!!!! Evening all :)

Just managed to get the WiFi connection sorted at the house where I'm dog sitting, so I thought I'd look in before bed.

Reg; Looking at the clues, I guess that you may mean it's the original Aerotechnik EV-97 Eurostar, before they got taken-over by Evektor??

Edit: If that is correct, then I'm glad to see that Ken has got there first, he deserves it, and I would have asked for an OH anyway as I'm hitting the hay too! Goodnight gentlemen :ok:

[RegDep]

Well, I think that's it. The type certification that the picture was taken from was on Cosmik Aviation EV-97 teamEurostar http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/1419/20110407MicroTADSBM67Iss4ev97teamEurostarUK.pdf - I just missed the connection :uhoh:.

Open House, then (on Skytrain's account).

Good Night.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Reg. Unfortunately the EuroStar has been one of an increasingly large number of aircraft that goes under several names. Very popular in the UK with over 160 on the register!

Seems that no takers around today so I'll take up my own Open House:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/5d3e19df.jpg

[Noyade]

I'll take up my own Open House:

G'day Ken. I was just about to post one mate! :) But got sidetracked with jet rear-ends.

Does the starboard wing-tip make it look like there's a ventral jet engine? Forgive me, I'm a little obsessed with jet pipes at the moment. :)

[Noyade]

What do you call those up-turned wing tips? Vortex generators or something? Does this thing have HUGE ones that interfere, silhouette wise, with the tail/fuselage line making it look like there's a dorsal fin extension?

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme

But got sidetracked with jet rear-ends. Whatever takes your fancy mate!

Does the starboard wing-tip make it look like there's a ventral jet engine? Yep, its one of those modern wing-tips that curls up, although from photos on the web some aircraft have a more conventional wing-tip.

European design.

Edit to say...not sure what the technical name is for them, but they are not huge, more just the proximity and angle of the camera to the aircraft..

[Noyade]

wing-tips that curls up

Hmmm...a curly one eh? I'll have a look later this morning. Time for bed mate?

[Noyade]

Whatever takes your fancy mate!

Don't lie to me, I know you like and look at tail-ends! :)

Close?...

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1962/5d3e19df.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/5d3e19df.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Now I'm trying to figure out what the hell that monument(?) is in the background. I get distracted easily...

[Noyade]

Kitplane/homebuilt?

[skytrain10]

Sorry mate, was distracted looking at Mel's tail end!

Don't focus on the monument - not really sure what it is myself. Looks like its made of rubber!

Not a homebuild.

Edit, internet connection is very slow so only just seen your winglet drawing....no nothing like that. They are not unlike the EuroStar's, but they are bigger.

Going to hit the hay now, so will check-in in the morning.

[Ridge Runner]

would it be Polish, Ken??

[skytrain10]

would it be Polish, Ken??
Not Polish Martin, but you are close.

[Lightning Mate]

DirectFly Alto

[Noyade]

Evening/morning Ken! Last geography lesson we had, Austria was the answer.

Austrian?

[Noyade]

DirectFly AltoMorning David! Nice...

not really sure what it is myself. Looks like its made of rubber!Hey Ken, it was a jumping castle! :ok:

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2781/1574617.jpg (http://img580.imageshack.us/i/1574617.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

DirectFly Alto That's the one.
LM has control

Last geography lesson we had, Austria was the answer.
I've gone from A (Hopfner), to B (SABCA) and now to C (Direct Fly)....so wonder what letter the next country will be? :)

[Ridge Runner]

Dyermany? :)

[skytrain10]

Dyermany? Mmm, actually not that many beginning with D in Europe. Guess it will have to be something from Denmark:)

[Lightning Mate]

Apologies - server down!

Open House.

[RegDep]

Let me stunt you, then

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/image001-13-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Hi Reg. Something from Bratukhin? A flying crane project? Found one with a 4 bladed rotor but not 3. Any connection?

[hesham]

Hi,

it is Bolkow Bo.70

[RegDep]

Yes hesham, it is Bolkow Bo.70.

Over to you.

[hesham]

Thank you RD,

and a big challenge;

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/heshamh/1-4.jpg

[hesham]

To make it easy,

it was from Germany.

[hesham]

A project.

[Ridge Runner]

A Henschel machine, Hesham??

[hesham]

No RR,

it was anther company.

[hesham]

Easy and easy,

it was not BV,Heinkel or Messerschmitt.

[hesham]

Sorry guys,

I'll go to my friends outside,it was Klemm E64,a biplane carrier-borne
recce project for aircraft carrier "Graf Zeppelin".

Someone takes the control.

[Noyade]

Much easier...

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5307/img032d.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/img032d.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

A Bloch, mate?

[Noyade]

G'day Martin.
Yes mate, a Bloch...

[Noyade]

Somewhere between 150 and 157....

[Noyade]

Have a stab Martin! ....:)

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6727/41388186.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/41388186.jpg/)
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9361/img039e.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/img039e.jpg/)

[RegDep]

152 . . . . . . .

[Noyade]

Typo acknowledged.

Bloch 152. Your control Reg. :ok:

[RegDep]

Thanks Graeme,

Retroing…..

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/Bildschirmfoto2011-09-29um115433.jpg

PS: hesham's was not that difficult when you tidied it up a little……

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/KlemmE64-1.jpg

This is the picture taken from hesham's challenge, not from the web.

[Noyade]

Yours is the IAR 16...?

I.A.R. 16 - fighter (http://www.aviastar.org/air/romania/iar-16.php)

not that difficult when you tidied it upHow does tidying it up make it less difficult mate?

[RegDep]

It is the IAR 16 Graeme.

Tidying up makes it easier to see….. and tell details. But that was a general statement about fuzzy pictures mate.

Over to you :ok:.

And mine was fuzzy because it was from another source than Aviastar. Didn't even check it there :(.

[Noyade]

I see, thanks Reg. Thought there may be image tricks to share. :)

Only got part of the challenge mate....

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3858/img0425ba.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/img0425ba.jpg/)

[RegDep]

Dorsal jet engine?

[Noyade]

Only got part of the challenge mate....Alright. Twist my arm....

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/504/img042mx.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/img042mx.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Dorsal jet engine?

No mate........

[Noyade]

Would you like to see a silhouette of the entire aircraft?

[Ridge Runner]

U-2 mate....... :)

[Noyade]

:)

Your control Martin. :ok:

U2/TR-1


http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7595/img043z.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/img043z.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks mate

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune290911A.jpg

[Noyade]

HC-2 "Heli Baby", HC-102 helicopter - development history, photos, technical data (http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/hc-2.php)

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3039/hc2n.jpg (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/hc2n.jpg/)

:ok:

[Noyade]

Like Trevor, early start tomorrow...make it OH if correct. Night. :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

That's it, Graeme.

OPEN HOUSE is declared!

[evansb]

Here is a sort-of-silhouette:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/TURBO_PROP.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Canadair C-4??

[evansb]

No, not a Canadair product.

[RegDep]

The one and only, but not the sole survivor?

[evansb]

Two of the version shown were built.

[RegDep]

OK, was probably misled by something. I thought the G-ALEU was the only H.P.82 Hermes 5 that was fitted with turboprops, but two Hermes 5s with Bristol Theseus seem to have been built.

[evansb]

Yes, RegDep, it is the HP Hermes V turboprop.:ok: You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/131769_8001.jpg

[RegDep]

Thanks Brian,

Next

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/4561528715_49b5891768copy-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Looks similar to the Curtiss XP-71.

[RegDep]

There is a reason Mate:

It is Curtiss XP-71

Curtiss XP-71 was a 1940 proposal of a heavy escort fighter aircraft for USAAF. Two prototypes were ordered. The development were equipped with Wasp Mayor turbocharged radial engines and was featuring pusher configuration with 8 contra rotating propellers.

The final design of the XP-71 was bigger than the B-25 Mitchell medium bomber so this complex aircraft was considered to be need a lot of resources to built.

A mock up was built to gain data for the prototypes but later, the requirement of more advanced fighters such as jets led to the cancellation of the XP-71 project and the prototype was never built in 1942.

Over to you Mate :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Reg.

I'm going back to your engine challenge.

Open House.

[evansb]

To keep things rolling, here is a see-through mystery ship:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/ACHOO_BLESS_ME.jpg

[RegDep]

RMI-6 Szúnyog - Mosquito (tervezője: Varga László)

Hungarian Experimental airplane from 1943.

[evansb]

RegDep is spot on:ok: Well done:D. Your turn.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/AircraftRecognitionLg1.jpg

[RegDep]

Thank you Brian!

Next

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/Bildschirmfoto2011-09-30um162048-1.png

Brian, I found the book you pictured when looking for your last challenge from it, a couple of challenges back (and noticed that you have had at least one other from it earlier). Great book!

[Ridge Runner]

Bucker Jungmann?

[RegDep]

Well, can you elaborate? We have been pretty detailed lately in the Challenge thread, why not here now…

[Spit161]

Bucker Bu131 Jungmann.

[Lightning Mate]

CASA 1-131 ?

[RegDep]

Well, I admit being a bit unruly, but the silhouette has not been made of a Bucker…..

But this should go to RR

Wanatabé Ki.86 Cypress
Kyushu K9W1 Type 2 Momiji
Kokusai Ki.86 Type 4

The silhouette basis was captioned as Watanabe.

Over to RR :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks Reg. Unfortunately I'm leaving soon... the weather is to good to be here... and so in fairness to everyone I will declare OPEN HOUSE

[Spit161]

Here is an extremely quick (and dodgy) silhouette:

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k571/Spit161/ff.jpg

cheers,
Jake.

[Ridge Runner]

P-39 Airacobra????

If so, OPEN HOUSE again

[Spit161]

Yes, it's the Bell B-39.

Open house.

[RegDep]

Picking up OH

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/NO_NEED_FOR_FILE_NAME_JUST_FILE_IS_ENOUGH.jpg

[evansb]

Boeing Model 221A Monomail.

[Spit161]

Boeing Model 221A Monomail.

I'd say it is that, as well.
In fact, the cockpit of that aircraft is the current one "on trail" in the "What Cockpit" thread..

cheers,
Jake.

[RegDep]

Boeing Model 221A Monomail

That's it Brian. :ok: Back to you, Sir.

[evansb]

Thanks Reg. Here is the next one:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH110930.jpg

[Spit161]

I want to say the Hawker F36/34.
Or, in common language, the Hurricane prototype.

cheers,
Jake.

[evansb]

No, not a Hawker.

[Noyade]

British?.......

[evansb]

..Quite...

[Noyade]

Hi Brian.

I thought I was looking at a fixed spatted undercarriage. But is it a wheel retracted into a fairing?

The Fairey Battle?....

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/2978/img047k.jpg (http://img853.imageshack.us/i/img047k.jpg/)

Is your image a wartime silhouette?

[evansb]

Yes, and yes. It is a Battle. You have control.

[Noyade]

Thanks Brian.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/8726/blackua.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/blackua.jpg/)

[Spit161]

Swordfish?

[JEM60]

Sea Gladiator. Open house if correct.

[Noyade]

It is Jem. :)

Open House.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2883/img048n.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/i/img048n.jpg/)

Back to watching the NFL Grand Final....:ok:

[RegDep]

While we are at it…..

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/img_01-1.jpg

[Spit161]

Just a question:
Does it have an enclosed cockpit, or just a windshield?

[evansb]

Bucker Bu.133 Jungmeister ?

[RegDep]

Bucker Bu.133 Jungmeister

Brian has it!

All yours, Sir.

[evansb]

Thank you. Here is the next silhouette:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH111002.jpg

[Kitbag]

Handley Page Hampden?

[evansb]

Kitbag is correct:ok: The 'Flying Suitcase'. Your turn.

[hesham]

Where are you guys ?.

[Kitbag]

Apologies, forgot to check. OH

[Noyade]

Maintaining the WWII theme...

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3650/img029n.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/img029n.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

Hello mate!!
Ikarus Fury?

[Noyade]

G'day mate, sorry Martin, it's not a good silhouette.

Italian.

[Noyade]

Here's the original mate...

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5115/img057c.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/img057c.jpg/)

Heading to bed shortly...

[Lightning Mate]

CR.32 biplane fighter?

[Noyade]

We're moving around the threads quickly, eh mate! :)

Sorry, not a Fiat...

[Ridge Runner]

A FIAT, Graeme?

[Noyade]

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5222/findit.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/findit.jpg/)

When you find it, don't wait for confirmation, carry on. :ok:

Goodnight.

[RegDep]

Heven't we seen this RAM-generator recently?

The picture is of Meridionali Ro.37 Lince…… Fiat engine.

(That RAM generator was in a Chrislea Super Ace two months ago).

[Dave Barnshaw]

Hi RegDep,could it be a Viima?.:ugh:

[RegDep]

Dave, you lost me. The picture above is Noyade's own clue to his challenge #2942, and I maintain in my response that it is IMAM Ro.37.

Technically, we are now waiting for two independent confirmations on my response being correct (or Noyade coming back and calling it), or, of course, if someone disagrees with me s/he can propose alternative solutions, and the same process take place with that.

AFAIK Viima had/has radial engine, except one Viima IIB with Gipsy Major.

Edit to say: Welcome to the thread Dave. Please stay!

[Ridge Runner]

I'm okay to move on. Reg has it!

[Lightning Mate]

I don't do much around here now, but here is your second vote Reg. :ok:

[RegDep]

Thank you for your never-failing support, Gentlemen

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/281711-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Aeropro Eurofox ?

[Spit161]

Tencam P2010?

[RegDep]

Well Mate. You are putting me into a very difficult position. Mine is not Aeropro Eurofox, but something else. The truth is that I have major difficulties to tell mine apart from yours, although they are clearly manufactured by different firms in different countries.

I need a time-out to check, but so far have not found the designers' names, or something to that effect.

Tecnam P2010 it definitely is not.

Edit: Mate they are different constructions, the tails are clearly different. So: Not Aeropro Eurofox, but not far, either.

[Ridge Runner]

Is Aerotrek A240 what you ae thinking, Reg?

[RegDep]

Isn't Aerotrek built by Aeropro?

They have similar tail to Aeropro bud different from mine.

True, the tail difference is not visible in the silhouette.

Mine
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/Bildschirmfoto2011-10-04um175304-1.png

[Ridge Runner]

Yes, they are. I'm looking to claim anything on this one but I wondered if that was what you were thinking? Very similar! RR

[RegDep]

Just to rephrase: My challenge is manufactured by a different company in a different country, and the HS location is (slightly) different from Aeropro/Aerotrek.

Edit to add a clue: different but neighbour country.

[Lightning Mate]

Apollo Fox ?

[RegDep]

I counted you Mate - you usually don't give up too easily.

Apollo Fox it is :D:D:D from Hungary.

Aircraft N791YE (Apollo Aircraft Inc FOX C/N 00005) Photo by Daniel Compton (Photo ID: AC281711) (http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/281711L.html)

Your turn Mate :ok:

Good night!

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you Reg. :)

Open House.

[RegDep]

You have turned lazy lately Mate :rolleyes:.

[Noyade]

He's tired Reg...getting old. :)

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/9457/attempt.jpg (http://img803.imageshack.us/i/attempt.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Japanese Type 99 Lily ?

...otherwise known as Kawasaki Ki-48

[Noyade]

Morning David.

Back to you mate. :ok:

(Watchya gonna do on the "Challenge" thread?)

[Lightning Mate]

(Watchya gonna do on the "Challenge" thread?)

Stick something up very shortly.

Meanwhile, here, it's OH.

[RegDep]

Fixed the Challenge

Now this

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/1-1-1-1-1.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Another Jap, Reg???

[RegDep]

Yep, a Jap.

[diesel addict]

Nakajima "Hayate" - aka Frank

Fairly sure....

If correct OH

[RegDep]

It is, indeed, Frank himself:

Nakajima Ki-84 Hayate "Frank"

Diesel addict has requested Open House.

[evansb]

Here is a sihouette challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WHO_DAT.gif

[RegDep]

Ilyushin Il-28

Edit: I guess not: The horisontal stabilisers are not dihedral…..

[evansb]

Yes, RegDep, it is an IL-28. Your control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/ilyushin-il-281.gif

[RegDep]

With all respect due, Brian, I think your challenge is Ilyushin Il-30, with swept wings and straight HS.

The Ilyushin Il-30 was a Soviet turbojet-powered tactical bomber designed as a higher-performance version of the Il-28 in the late 1940s. It was apparently canceled before the prototype made its first flight, although sources disagree on this.

Il-28 had straight leading edge and dihedral HS.

But thank you, I accept.

Here's my next

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/281937291.jpg

[Noyade]

Evening Reg. Finally, is this the Aero 204? :)

[RegDep]

Morning Graeme. No it is not the A 204.

[Noyade]

Morning Reg. Finally, the Aero 304? :)

(Groundhog Day)

[Spit161]

C-27 "Airbus"?

[RegDep]

Spit161: Not that, and even less.

Graeme: That's it. Aero A 304. Didn't know how to comment so I didn't.

Over to you :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Reg, but alas, I am silhouetteless. Open House, however I will try and make a few more later today.

Cheers.

[Noyade]

Didn't know how to comment

You should have said "put your glasses on ya ********!" :)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3866/img060on.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/img060on.jpg/)

Sleep well!

[Noyade]

Another one...

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9162/img061k.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/img061k.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Evening mate. :)

Russian? The wing looks Yakish....

[Noyade]

Morning David!

Not Russian mate. I'll work on the side profile shortly.

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry mate - must go and teach.

Not back until 1200 Prune time, so I am sure it will be gone by then.

If your light is out by then sleep well. :ok:

[Noyade]

OK mate, cheers.

Side profile....

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7134/img063v.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/i/img063v.jpg/)



(http://img841.imageshack.us/i/img063bl.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Source says it was built prior to WW2 and when war did break out it was hidden from the Germans. It was eventually flown after the war on 24 August 1945.

[Ridge Runner]

A frog, mate???

[Noyade]

Yes Martin. :)

Engine is a 1,000 hp HS 12Y-51.

[Noyade]

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4269/ln4225.jpg (http://img577.imageshack.us/i/ln4225.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Evening Graeme,

Issa Loire Nieuport LN-42 ??

OH if correct please as I'm back to work now!! :(

[Noyade]

Issa Loire Nieuport LN-42 ??Issa correct answer mate. :ok:

Open House.

Loire-Nieuport LN 40 LN 401 LN 411 LN 42 (http://histaviation.com/Loire-Nieuport_LN_40_LN_401_LN_411_LN_42.html)

[Noyade]

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4571/img062wf.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/img062wf.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

Morning!!

French again, mate????

[hesham]

Hi,

Amiot 143.