Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[evansb]

AS Lynx or Pobjoy powered ?

[Karlark]

Ok, I'll play... is it the Pobjoy Pirate? :)

[SincoTC]

Aha, you spotted the eccentric prop-hub :ok:

It is a Pobjoy Radial

[SincoTC]

is it the Pobjoy Pirate?

Look no further Karl, it is the Pobjoy Pirate :D

Pobjoy Pirate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pobjoy_Pirate)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/pobjoy_pirate.jpg

Karlark has control :ok:

[Karlark]

Thanks Trevor... here goes one:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/33-1.jpg

[SincoTC]

Hmm, interrupted by visitors!

Russian?

[Karlark]

Why yes, it does happen to be Russian.

[Noyade]

Evening/afternoon. :)

A stripped down (top wing removed) Polikarpov R-5.

The Polikarpov PR-12....?

[Karlark]

Yes it is Graeme :ok:. The Polikarpov, Rafaelyants modification PR-12.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/13-3.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/10-3.gif

Noyade's control

[Noyade]

Thanks Karl. :) (I don't know why the dots appear automatically under PR?)

Here's another...

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7862/img646f.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/img646f.jpg/)

[Karlark]

Sorta looks like a Vultee...

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/3_2.png

[Noyade]

Not a Vultee mate.

[Noyade]

Here's another...

...Russian.

:)

[Noyade]

Heading out Karl. Catch ya later mate. :)

[Karlark]

Alrighty mate, have a great day. :)

Cheers

[SincoTC]

Evening Graeme,

I think that is Peter Dmitrievich Grushin's light bomber the BB-MAI ??

Open House please if correct as I'm out for a lot of today and not certain when I can get back. :)

[Noyade]

That's the one Trevor. :ok:

Heading out shortly to do the Mother's Day dinner thing. I did protest saying I had to stay home and monitor SC - but I have no excuse now......... :suspect::)

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/bored-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Whoever is next, please hold your peace......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/boredsat.jpg

[SincoTC]

Blimey, it's been a quiet day!! Just touching base as I have to go out again soon :(

What the heck is that up front, looks pretty unconventional, what's its configuration?

American as in the USA?

[Karlark]

Afternoon LM,

Russian again I presume... I was going to say the Gribovsky G-21, but I think the Aviavnito ANITA-1 is the one?
Heading out, open house if correct :).

[Lightning Mate]

The Aviavnito ANITA-1 it is indeed. :ok:

Open House has been declared.

[Lightning Mate]

Where on earth is everyone? :eek:

[SincoTC]

Well, I'm around but very busy today! I saw a couple of lights on when I grabbed a peek at break time and thought you'd have some company by now!

Unfortunately, I'm not going to be near a computer at all this afternoon so I can't put anything up now, sorry mate :O

[Ridge Runner]

da da!!!!!! I'm back!!!! :) All our servers went down on Thursday night and weren't back until late last night!!!!!!!!!

RR

[Ridge Runner]

Here you go!

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune100512A.jpg

[evansb]

Gavilan 358 ? Looks similar to the Kodiak Quest and Grippsland GA8.

[Ridge Runner]

ah ha, Brian!! That's the one! You have conterol mate!

[evansb]

Thanks, That was fun. Here is the next one. I'd like the military designator and name please:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/NAME_THE_PLANE.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

It looks like a C-12C Huron, Brian

Edit: reminds me of a few hours beside the runway at Sde Dov watching the various Beech 200/C-12s up to the point the two uniformed officers came over and asked what I was doing .... bird watching of course!! :)

Edit2: if corect it will have to be OPEN HOUSE I'm afraid... must go!!

[evansb]

Correct. The Beech/Raytheon C-12 Huron. As the man says, it is OPEN HOUSE.

[Lightning Mate]

Is it now......................

[evansb]

Looks a bit like a UAV. I don't do UAVs, Just like you don't do high-wing monoplanes.
I'm not a fan, (no pun intended), of motor gliders either..

[Lightning Mate]

It is indeed a UAV.

Do you want me to change it for another one - I'm happy to do so....?

In fact bugger it - standby by for a replacement.....

[Lightning Mate]

OK mate - not a UAV....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/just4u.jpg

[Karlark]

Vega flying test stand or Airover Altair testbed or something like that.

[skytrain10]

Evening David:) Well I was about to second Karl's guess of the Vega Flying Test Stand!

May be alternatively listed as the Lockheed Altair 8G?

[Karlark]

I second it and third it Ken! The Lockheed Altair 8G that is. Your thread!

It proved out the Menasco Unitwin 2-544 engine (which I think is a very cool engine for the time) used in the airframe AiRover model 1, based on an Orion... or Vega Altair... for the Starliner, you know... err, never mind. :) Sirius, you guys have control. :p

[Lightning Mate]

Morning gentlemen.

I have it from Aerofiles as the Vega Flying Test Stand. The Altair had a radial.

Karlark was the first to get there, but from his last comment I am not sure if he has offered an OH.

If so then it must go to Ken.

[skytrain10]

Morning gents. I am a little confused. David you said in your post (which has been deleted) at 2051 yesterday that it wasn't the Vega Flying Test Stand. You now say it is - which I agree. It was previously named the Altair 8G (per Aerofiles) but I cannot claim that as a correct answer since Karl was there first. Karl has kindly handed the thread to me, but it really should be Karl's!

As no doubt Karl is still asleep I will psot something shortly in order to keep things moving.

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken.

Sorry mate - I was also a little confused last night - I was looking at another image I had stored. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wibble.gif

Prolly that nice bottle of port I had been given.

edit: I have to leave in any case in twenty minutes for a couple of hours of lecturing. :uhoh:

[skytrain10]

Morning David...say no more mate;)

Right, off we go with the next challenge:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/7b3a656a.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Blimey mate - it seems to have a float in mid-air above the cockpit.

[skytrain10]

it seems to have a float in mid-air above the cockpit. Could give a clue as to the location of the wing:)

[Ridge Runner]

Low wing I reckon? Russian? Single engine?

[skytrain10]

Morning Martin
Low wing I reckon? Russian? Single engine? No, yes and yes :)

I should be technically correct here. Because of the era, this aircraft is from the USSR. I am not entirely sure if it was built in Russia, or a former Soviet state, although I believe the latter.

[Ridge Runner]

Biplane?????

[skytrain10]

Not a biplane.

[Ridge Runner]

OK, so a high-wing (with wing-tip floats?). However, it also sems to have buoyancy gear along the fuselage, al la Dornier?

[skytrain10]

OK, so a high-wing (with wing-tip floats?) Yes:ok:

Not sure about the buoyancy gear though, nothing obvious in the 3-view or photo.

[skytrain10]

The photo does exhibit some differences to the side view I have used, albeit nothing that would prevent recognition of the challenge. The most obvious difference is that the tail is partially filled in, as well as a different profile to the underside of the fuselage. Whether these were just inaccuracies on the original 3-view used or changes to the design I don't know. Anyway, I'll post a revised silhouette shortly.

Revised silhouette to reflect differences between photo and 3-view:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/3ab38f36.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Is it actually from a Russian flying boat designer?

[skytrain10]

Not a company (or designer) particularly known for flying boats.

[skytrain10]

Clue, this can best be described as a homebuild or perhaps more accurately, an amateur design.

[Ridge Runner]

A Shavrov??

[skytrain10]

Not a Shavrov Martin.

[Lightning Mate]

Not a company (or designer) particularly known for flying boats.

Which is why nothing comes up - I've been through all of them.

[Ridge Runner]

Me too!!!! Ken, you're a bu***r :)

[skytrain10]

Mmm, this one seems to be proving difficult:)

Perhaps you're thinking it's older than it is....1970's design. It used major components from other aircraft, as well as a boat!

[Lightning Mate]

:eek::eek::eek:.......

[Ridge Runner]

1970s! So that's not a gun position up front?

[skytrain10]

So that's not a gun position up front? No, not a gun position.

[Lightning Mate]

2 seat side-by-side?

[Lightning Mate]

I am not entirely sure if it was built in Russia, or a former Soviet state,
although I believe the latter

Might that have been East Germany as it was?

[skytrain10]

2 seat side-by-side? Correct:ok:

Might that have been East Germany as it was? No, definitely what was the USSR.

[skytrain10]

Another clue....the engine was Czech.

[Lightning Mate]

I'm out on this one and running around in circles.

I see three others on line so I'll check back later to see if any of them have found it.

[Lightning Mate]

That looks like a no.

[skytrain10]

That looks like a no Certainly looks that way...nobody around at present. Will look in a little later and put up a further clue for the night shift.

[skytrain10]

Further clues....1974 design. Tail and wings came from a KAI-12 glider.

Closing down now for the night. Usual rules apply:ok:

[Noyade]

1974 designIs it this thing Ken?.....

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9782/img655.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/img655.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

A'rtnoon Graeme :)

It looks to me like you've nailed it mate :D:D; a case of Library 1 Internet 0, but I wonder if it's got an alias 'coz I still can't find the bugger :\:\ :O:

Gotta go now as work calls so can't search anymore!

[Noyade]

Thanks mate, didn't google for me either, but I'm sure there's a simple explanation. Even if it is, it'll have to open house as I have a few computer issues and I'm cooking Sushi tonight. :ok:

Cheers.

[Lightning Mate]

.... Internet 0....

Still can't find it, so I assume it has another name.

edit:


and I'm cooking Sushi tonight.

c o o k i n g Sushi????

[skytrain10]

Morning all/evening Graeme.
It is the RKIIGA-74, aka Riga-74, so Graeme has it:ok: If you google it you'll find pictures. Graeme's photo unfortunately identifies it as the RK11GA-74 which has no doubt lead to drawing a blank on a internet search.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/0e527541.jpg


http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/1cd41cc4.jpg

Noyade has control

[Ridge Runner]

Morning all!!

Nice one, Ken!!!! :)

[Noyade]

I offered open house Ken. :)

c o o k i n g Sushi???? Non-traditional Sushi mate. Marinated cooked chicken in chilli and/or teriyaki sauce, mixed with roasted/barbecued vegetables - zucchini, carrot, capsicum, chillies, pumpkin, etc and squeezed out using a Sushi gun....

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2194/img657.jpg (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/img657.jpg/)

:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Watch going to drink with it then?

[Noyade]

Presently - Lindeman's Bin 45 Cabernet Sauvignon.

I took your advice from last year, never buy cardboard casks. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

I'll drink to that! :)

...and you can drink to this......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/theOH.jpg

[Noyade]

My first thoughts....

UAV?
Electric?

[Noyade]

Got your e-mail by the way. What can I say...you're a lucky bastard. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

UAV.

Electric is only half the story. :)

[Noyade]

Whatdoya mean "half the story"?

[Ridge Runner]

does rubber of any sort feature in this machine, David?

[Lightning Mate]

Well mate, it is electric, but the power doesn't come from a battery.

Morning Martin.

No rubber involved.

[Noyade]

Martin, David appears to be suggesting a solar-powered electric UAV.

Please look for it and report back to me. I'll give you 20 minutes.

:)

[skytrain10]

The NRL Ion Tiger?

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken.

:D

See - I'm not doing difficult at the moment.

All yours.

[skytrain10]

Cheers David...well, here's an easy one....clock is ticking:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/1df74fc3.jpg

[Noyade]

Thanks Martin! :rolleyes::) To quote another "Reality" TV show, The Apprentice - "You're fired!"

Piaggio?!

[skytrain10]

Piaggio?! Yes, and.....???:)

[Noyade]

Off the top of me 'ed...PD-808?

[skytrain10]

The top of your head is working well! Yes, the PD-808.

You have control Graeme:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Bugger - and there I was putting up a new one on "Challenge". :\

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken. Caught me on the hop and I just spilt wine on my console. Didn't crop very well...

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7199/img662v.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/img662v.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Is this Russian 'nall ?

[Noyade]

No commies this time mate.

[Lightning Mate]

Circa 1920 ?

Aerofiles maybe....

[Noyade]

1918 mate.

[Noyade]

Aerofiles maybe....

Nein........

[Noyade]

Photo...

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2769/img663n.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/img663n.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Brandenburg ?

[Noyade]

Right country but not a Brandenburg.

[Noyade]

Folds up and fits into a submarine.

[Ridge Runner]

An Arado???

[Noyade]

You're fired!

:)

No mate, not an Arado.

[Lightning Mate]

L.F.G Stralsund V19 ?

[Noyade]

Done!

Your control. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate - go back to the other thread. :)

[Lightning Mate]

A helo for a change:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wed-4.jpg

[Noyade]

Before I go. Spanish!

Aerotecnica AC-12.

Open house if correct.

[Lightning Mate]

Good grief!!

Nicely done mate.

Noyade has declared Open House.

[Ridge Runner]

Aerotecnica AC-12.


it is still present in the museum at Cuatro Vientos. Nice one!!!

RR

[Lightning Mate]

It's all down to his corkscrew I tell you!!

I'm Ballioling out for a while.

[Lightning Mate]

LM calling nightshift/evening shift..............

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/sodit-1.jpg

[SincoTC]

LM calling nightshift/evening shift..............

Hmmm; well, the morning shift should definitely get this if he looks in before work ;)

I'm struggling with your challenge at the moment!

[Noyade]

morning shift should definitely get this Because we've had it before? Can't find it on Mel's list, but it does seem familiar?

The IST X-14 Maya ?

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2900/xl14maya.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/i/xl14maya.jpg/)

Have to be Open House should it be that. Cheers.

[SincoTC]

Morning Graeme :),

but it does seem familiar?


http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/332082-silhouette-challenge-716.html#post5925654

Post #1432, looks like a felt-tip jobber :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Apologies gentlemen, but, like Graeme, I didn't see it on the list.

Open House has been called.

[SincoTC]

No apologies necessary LM, just like yesterday, when I couldn't find Ken's flying-boat on the net from Graeme's picture 'cos the caption said 11 instead of II, the Maya was just a case of punctuation, it was on the list as the I.S.T.M. XL-14 Maya

I've now got into the habit of loading the list and then using F3 to check for it, starting with what I think it's called and then editing the search string down to cover possible variations, especially things like dots, dashes, spaces and Roman numerals in the designations, as we know there are no standard formats and variations are rife and Mel has no option other than to list what's posted!

Pity I didn't take my own medicine looking for Ken's FB on the net though :ugh:

[SincoTC]

I'd better take the OH, to give David summat to chase 'til others arrive later!

Gonna be busy again today at work but will monitor as often as possible!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf236.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

and Mel has no option other than to list what's posted!

Yes TC - we would be in trouble without him.


...to give David summat to chase...

Chase is the word mate. You know I just love high wing monoplanes!

[Ridge Runner]

A brit, I think. The shape is familiar but as usual my old brain can't retrieve it!

[SincoTC]

Morning Martin,

Not a Brit mate, but the donk is :)

[Ridge Runner]

A gypsy???

[SincoTC]

Correct, 130 hp in the key of Major

[Ridge Runner]

mass produced Trevor?

[SincoTC]

Only one built; although they did try another engine later, which it retains to this day (not flying though).

[Ridge Runner]

OK, an Aussie?

[skytrain10]

Morning Trevor, is it the Fawcett 120 from Australia?

[SincoTC]

OK, an Aussie?

Quietly now! Graeme's prolly having a nap after supper, but yes it is :ok:

Edit: Wham, bam and in swoops Ken :D

Yes it is the Fawcett 120

The Fawcett 120 was a four-seat all metal lightplane, designed by Luigi Pellarini, which unfortunately never got beyond the prototype stage. The above photograph was taken at Bankstown shortly after its roll-out in 1954. Originally powered by a 130 hp de Havilland Gipsy Major 1 Series 1 engine, the aircraft was re-engined in 1979 with a four cylinder horizontally-opposed piston engine.

It was the re-designated the Fawcett 1280 by Greg Banfield at Bankstown in December 1983. This innovative machine is currently on display at the Australian Aviation Museum in Bankstown.


http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/Fawcett120.jpg

skytrain10 has control :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor...I was only looking at it the other day, but the lack of wheel spats put me off!

Back to a twin tail theme for the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/792b3f13.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Looks like a turbo-Broussard!!!!?

Bugger about the Fawcett!!!! :)

Edit: CORRECTION - MH153, Ken???

[skytrain10]

2 mins....yes, the Astazou powered MH.153:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/b3b36e00.jpg

Sorry about the Fawcett...my first look in today. But you are right, it is reminiscent of a British aircraft, which was a challenge some time back if I recall.

Your control Martin

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry about that, mate! :) A nice machine, though!!!!! It is still around?

Here's the next:

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/9df9843a.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

'Artnoon all - first time out of class today and knackered!

Martin, is yours sled-launched?

[skytrain10]

Hi Martin...cant find any record of the MH.153 of late. Certainly no longer on the French register.

Your's doesn't seem to have much in the way of an undercarriage!

[Ridge Runner]

Hello David! Yes!

Off for a little bite to eat. Catch you in an hour! RR

Edit: Sorry, Ken - i missed your post but i think my response to David has answered it?

[Lightning Mate]

Sperry Aerial Torpedo

[Ridge Runner]

That's the one, David. A name often wrongly attributed to the Kettering Bug. You have CONTROL

Specifications:
Wingspan: 22'
Length: 15'
Engine: 90hp Curtiss OX-5
Top Speed: 70 mph
Weight: 950 lbs.

http://www.cradleofaviation.org/images/sendpagetoafriend2.gif (http://www.cradleofaviation.org/refer.cgi)
http://www.cradleofaviation.org/images/clear.gifCurtiss / Sperry Aerial Torpedo (replica) Garden City, 1918
The Sperry Aerial Torpedo tests were the first guided missile program in this country. In 1916, Lawrence Sperry, developer of the autopilot, formed a new company and set up flying operations at an isolated site at Amityville on the Great South Bay. Here, the Navy funded the development of unmanned flying bombs intended to be launched against military targets. Five "Aerial Torpedoes" were then built by the nearby Curtiss Company. A special track and dolly was developed and Aerial Torpedoes were launched by this system with some success. The Aerial Torpedoes were to be loaded with TNT and launched against enemy targets. After a pre-set time the engine would stop and the plane would dive into the target. With the end of World War One however, all experiments with flying bombs came to a halt. Nonetheless the first successful Aerial Torpedo flight in March 1918, marked the first time a full-size automatically-controlled unmanned aircraft had actually flown. This aircraft was thus a direct ancestor of the modern cruise missile.

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate.

I knew it wasn't the Kettering Bug because I posted that some time ago. However, Kettering was involved in the embryonic project.

I found this in my travels:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wtfo.jpg

[skytrain10]

Looks like the Flylight ZJ Viera?

[Lightning Mate]

Looks like the Flylight ZJ Viera?

Does a bit doesn't it. :)

Your thread. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Cheers David.

Time for a seaplane:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/39e39624.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

STOL ?......

[skytrain10]

Yes, a STOL machine :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Very nice! :) Canadian, mate? It looks like a Cessna 190???

[Lightning Mate]

Cessna....?

[Lightning Mate]

Possibly the 120.

[skytrain10]

Not Canadian or US

[Ridge Runner]

argah ... a skandihooligan, then??

[skytrain10]

a skandihooligan, then?? Not from there either:)

[Lightning Mate]

Is it something from Zlin or that part of the world.

[skytrain10]

Is it something from Zlin or that part of the world. No connection....need to head east!

[Ridge Runner]

OK, is the lump a giveaway? A ruskie??

[Lightning Mate]

....need to head east!

I certainly do - for about eight miles.

[skytrain10]

OK, is the lump a giveaway? A ruskie?? Yes, from the USSR:ok:

[Ridge Runner]

so radial engine?

[Ridge Runner]

YAK-12????

http://www.yakuk.com/img/Yak12taxi.JPG

If so it'll have to be OPEN HOUSE as I'm off to the pub!! RR :)

[skytrain10]

YAK-12???? That's the one Martin, in this instance, the Yak-12G:ok: Some obvious differences from the one in your picture, which I believe is a Yak-12M.
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/0d625f02.jpg

Have one for me:)

RR has declared Open House

[Lightning Mate]

Nice shot Martin. :ok:

Was it a missile or guns? :E

[Lightning Mate]

I have to leave tomorrow late morning to see my mother who has just been admitted to hospital (she is 94).

Therefore I am unable to respond to the OH.

I will check in with you guys tomorrow evening.

Have a good thread. :)

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry to hear that, David. I hope all is okay. RR

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you Martin.:)

I telephoned the hospital last night and they said she was OK.

[skytrain10]

Morning all:)
Sorry to hear about you mum David, but from what you say she is ok?

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate. :)

She has quite severe leg blistering and the old bones are getting weak. She sometimes falls over and is unable to get up again, which is exactly what happened.

I'll know more by late afternoon.

No responses to the OH..........!!

[skytrain10]

Understood David...fingers crossed.

I have one ready to go...Martin, did you want to take your own OH or shall I go for it?

[Lightning Mate]

Someone go for it - I've got a couple of hours yet.

[Ridge Runner]

over to you Ken!

[skytrain10]

Here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d9b65f6d.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Ah, it looks like a PA28 but I'm sure it won't be!! :)

[skytrain10]

Ah, it looks like a PA28 but I'm sure it won't be!! Correct, it's not a PA-28 - and not a Piper product.

[Lightning Mate]

Something from Storm?

[skytrain10]

Not a Storm design David.

[Lightning Mate]

Classed as an LSA ?

[skytrain10]

Classed as an LSA ? No, suspect you are thinking this is something new...it's a 1960's design, and would have been too heavy to qualify for LSA status.

[Ridge Runner]

based on a Piper (or is a Piper?)

[skytrain10]

based on a Piper (or is a Piper?) No connection with Piper that I can see.

[Ridge Runner]

OK, a Frenchie, then????

[skytrain10]

OK, a Frenchie, then???? Ah ah, yes it's a French design:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

It's not dissimilar to some Robin designs.

[skytrain10]

It's not dissimilar to some Robin designs. But it's not a Robin.

[Ridge Runner]

A Gardan product, per chance?

[Ridge Runner]

SITAR GY-110 Sher Khan?

Edit: I think its too long to be the GY100?

[skytrain10]

SITAR GY-110 Sher Khan? No, but you are VERY close:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Bagheera....?

[skytrain10]

I think its too long to be the GY100? Well it's not too long....it is the Gardan GY-100 Bagheera:ok: An unsuccessful replacement for the Horizon, just a prototype and 1 production model produced....the latter is still flying today.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/88ecd313.jpg

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/81cbf0f7.jpg

RR has control:D

Edit to say, Almost made it David, but Martin was there first with his edit of 1132

[Ridge Runner]

Nice one, Ken!

Here's the next:

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/9282a3a1.jpg

[skytrain10]

American Martin...as in USA?

[Ridge Runner]

Hiya mate! No, not a yank.. Not american. RR

[Ridge Runner]

Blimey, no takers!!!!

I'm probably not on tonight or tomorrow so I am going to withdraw it.

RR

[SincoTC]

Evening Martin,

Sorry I've not been able to join in today, this is the first chance I've had to look :(

I guess only you know how obscure it is and whether it'll need your input/clues to crack it (in which case, if your not about over the weekend it'd be best to remove it and keep it in reserve for later). Otherwise, if you think it can be easily found and confirmed unambiguously, then you could just leave it under "usual rules apply" .

Cheers and have a good weekend :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning/evening all.

So Martin has withdrawn it but it's still up and has not been deleted. Neither has he called an OH.

Looks like a very boring weekend.

[SincoTC]

Good morning LM :),

I hope things went well with the visit to your Mother.

So Martin has withdrawn it but it's still up and has not been deleted. Neither has he called an OH.

Looks like a very boring weekend.

Well, Martin's light was on when I posted last evening, admittedly, I didn't ask a specific question, but I feel that had he seen it he would have made a comment. However, his intentions were clear and as he hasn't responded for well over the twelve hours required by our posted rules, I think we can justifiably call it open house and carry on!


Rule 4: In the event that the person posting the challenge has not responded to a guess or question within 12 hours, or someone who was the winner of the previous challenge has not posted a new challenge within 12 hours (unless they have declared Open House) then the competition will be null and void and it will become Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning to you TC. :)

Mother is mentally confused but with little physical injury. We wait and see........

Do you have anything ready ?

edit: back in a while.

[SincoTC]

Here you go then!

I had a look for RR's last without success, but it looks to be a hard nut to crack and well worthy or a return appearance when Martin is available for interrogation :ok:!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf237.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

It appears to be a two-seater.

At first I thought the engine is a radial, but looking at the exhaust it must be an inverted in-line.

American?

[SincoTC]

A'rtnoon LM

Well, the aircraft in the image has a cowled radial engine, but the first two prototypes were powered by an inline DH Gypsy I. Not American

[SincoTC]

Have to go out for about an hour, I will put my light back on when I return :)

[Lightning Mate]

Off we (I) go again then...............

edit: Was it German?

I ask that because I have found something the description of which appears to match the image. It refers to a Dietrich. :\

[SincoTC]

Back on watch!

Not German, but it was operated by them!

[sabredog]

Possibly an RWD-8 ?

[Lightning Mate]

Impossibly I would say, because that had sweepback.

[SincoTC]

Not by RWD sabredog

[Lightning Mate]

After three hours of going around in circles, TC, I think I'll bail out of this one and hope that the night shift might appear.

I'm fairly sure it was from Eastern Europe as we know it.

Sleep well mate. :)

[SincoTC]

It was European, bordering on, but not Eastern!

Sleep well LM :ok:

[skytrain10]

Evening Trevor. From the clues I'm guessing Austrian. So how about the Hopfner HS9/32?

Edit to say, if correct will have to be OH as calling it a night (early start tomorrow)
Good night:ok:

[SincoTC]

Hello Ken and goodnight, sleep well :ok:

It is indeed the Hopfner (Hirtenberg) Hs 9/32 :D

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/hs932-2.jpg

skytrain10 has requested an Open House

[heshamh]

My dear Ridge Runner,

please tell us what was this twin boom aircraft ?.

[Karlark]

Here is one to consider for the OH:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/37-11.jpg

I also am curious about the twin boomed one that RR posted, HHH, We have had plenty of time to identify it with no success!!! :confused:

Edit: Usual rules apply.... US aircraft... :zzz:.

[SincoTC]

Good morning Karl :)

I've gotta be in and out all day so not much time to trawl :(

Is your challenge a single seat racer? late twenties/thirties?

I'd call it a mid-wing but most racers are what I'd call shoulder-wing.

Maybe the Cessna CM-1 aka MW-1 (Reg X9860)??

I doubt it's that, as all I can find with a quick search is a photo of a kit and I don't think you'd say usual rules if there wasn't many photos on the web!

Gotta go now, try and get back later.

[Lightning Mate]

If Aerofiles is correct, then I reckon it's the GC-2.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/cessna-gc2.jpg

[SincoTC]

Back in for a few minutes and had a proper look at Cessna and it looks like it's the Cessna GC-2 ?

Gotta go again, so OH if confirmed or seconded as I'm not sure when I can get back :)

Edit:

Morning again David, I will second that mate, (I didn't look far enough down the list):ugh:

I just found Karl's piccie here, so I'd say it's your thread mate :ok:

Cessna : GC-2 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/4590343728/)

[Lightning Mate]

I think you did all the work mate - I just stole it.

I do not accept the win. :)

[SincoTC]

I do not accept the win.

Oh well, gotta keep things moving (I'm still in and out for the rest of the day, but will try to monitor from other computers when I can):)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf238.jpg

Edit: to pre-empt the inevitable question as it not obvious from the silhouette issa two-seater

[Lightning Mate]

No questions Your Honour.

Leopoldoff Colibri G-AYKS.

[SincoTC]

Leopoldoff Colibri G-AYKS

Correct in every detail :D

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/LeopoldoffL7Colibri.jpg

Lightning Mate has control! Catchya later :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks TC.

Whatever you are doing (work I suspect) please get back soon.

Since your previous to last challenge was a parasol, I would like to reciprocate.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/para-1.jpg

[SincoTC]

I'm back :)

That looks familiar!

Edit:

Ah, the Aviatika MAI-223 and the reason it looks familiar is 'coz it's been up before. I put it up for it's second appearance :O and my excuse was that it was too fresh to have been on Mel's list (Pages 1230 and 1244), so what's yours? :p:)

[Lightning Mate]

......so what's yours?

Cawz I got it as the Aviama Voron Parasol!!!!!!!!!!

.............and I posted the other version.

I quit!

Back to you. :ok:

[SincoTC]

Thanks mate, some of these Russian names are a minefield!!

This is back to a recent theme too.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf239.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

This is back to a recent theme too.

I see no feme innit.........http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/worry.gif

Wossa feme?

[SincoTC]

Theme is the same as Karlark's silhouette earlier today, but more modern!

[Lightning Mate]

meefickinnit.

A racer then.

[Lightning Mate]

Is it a Wasabi ?

Properly known as a Cassutt Special ?

[SincoTC]

Yes, 'tiz a racer, but not a Cassut; although the design was based on it :)

[Lightning Mate]

That's as close as I can get TC - nite nite.

[SincoTC]

No worries mate; I gotta get into the kitchen now anyway.

Catchya tomorrow :ok:

[skytrain10]

Interesting challenge Trevor, very Cassutt like, but there again quite a few aircraft fall into that category. Unfortunately struggling to find one with the exact tail shape. My initial thought was the Wittman V-Witt but not quite right. I've found a description (but no photo) for the Bristol BX-200. Been assuming its American, but there again...?

[SincoTC]

Good evening Ken,

It is American; its design was based on that of the Cassut Special, but differed in the engine intended to be used!

Be aware that a small number were built and I have seen a phot of one of them fitted with spats.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor. Well you sent me on an Aerofiles search:(....the Lasher Renegade?

[SincoTC]

A fruitful search then, but at least it does have the correct code but no piccie! :) Well done; it is the Lasher Renegade 1 :D

The Renegade I was a design of Charles W. Lasher and intended as Formula V class racer. The design was largely based on the Cassutt Special III , but was made suitable to accept VW or VW-based engines.

The first aircraft was built by M. Ricketts and after eighteen months of construction it was first flown in 1974, registered N73RL (c/n B15). Of conventional construction with all-wood wings and fabric-covered fuselage, the single-seat aircraft was powered by one 55 hp Volkswagen VW1600 motor car engine.

N73RL took second and third places in the Formula V competition at the 1978 and 1979 Cleveland National Air Races respectively, and was used for aerobatic displays. Plans for amateur construction were marketed via Southern Aero Corporation of Miami Lakes, Florida, after 1983 via Charles Lasher. At least four Renegade I aircraft were completed in the USA:N73RL, N1031A, N35DE, and N64JM (designated Michalak R-1).

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/LasherRenegade1.jpg

skytrain10 has control:ok:

Nicely timed too; I'm calling it a day now as I've got a 5 am start :eek: Goodnight :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor. Have a good, if somewhat short sleep:)

Here is the next challenge.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/89fd7b09.jpg

Going to call it a day now, so usual rules apply for the night shift :ok:

[evansb]

Is it the Ling-Temco-Vought (LTV) XQM-93 ?

[heshamh]

I get the project from Ridge Runner,

it was Bucker Bu-181A twin boom project.

[Noyade]

Is it the Ling-Temco-Vought (LTV) XQM-93Google says "Yes!" Kill confirmed from down under. :ok:

it was Bucker Bu-181A twin boom project.Doesn't google for me, but if it is, Bucking good work mate. :ok:

[evansb]

Thanks. I'm getting nil results on the twin-boom pusher as well. I amazed myself at identifying a UAV. Not a fan of UAVs. With that in mind, I'm getting in my chick magnet mobile and departing the fix outbound. [I][B]OPEN HOUSE.

[Lightning Mate]

That car would make a good challenge - wossit?

Ball rolling...........

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/mon-5.jpg

[skytrain10]

Morning all. In fact my challenge was the LTV L.450F which was able to be flown as a manned aircraft or UAV. The XQM-93 was developed from this, and did not have a cockpit. I am not sure that the designation XQM-93 was ever officially used for the L.450F.

The car...an Austin A40 Devon I think. Our neighbours years ago used to have one!

David...an ultralight I guess..trying to make out the configuration, is that 2 pusher props?

Incidentally, the Bucker Bu.181/II (as opposed to Bu.181A) is referenced on the net and I found a drawing of it.

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken.

Yes, a homebuilt ultralight.

Twin pullers.

[Lightning Mate]

Did you find the Bucker Bu.181/II on the Forked Ghosts site?

I still can't find it. :\

[Ridge Runner]

Did you find the Bucker Bu.181/II on the Forked Ghosts site?

I still can't find it. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wibble.gif

hello, David. i really can't remember!!!!! I'll think about it!

RR

[skytrain10]

Did you find the Bucker Bu.181/II on the Forked Ghosts site? That's where I found it David, but as usual a pretty crude drawing and not enough detail to confirm and ID! Tend not to use that site, other than as a last resort!

Is yours Russian David?

[Lightning Mate]

Is yours Russian David?

Er..... Yes. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

So,

Russian twin puller home-built ultralight.

What's keeping you?...................

[sabredog]

Russian Bro-11

[Lightning Mate]

A winner!!!

Nicely done SD. :D

Your thread. :ok:

[skytrain10]

What's keeping you?................... Russia was the easy bit...they produce quite a few 2 engine microlights! Presume this is a one-off?

[Lightning Mate]

Dunno if it's a one-off. Certainly plans were available and I found one up for sale.

edit: there are also several around as gliders.