Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[Lightning Mate]

Yes mate, but now unable to monitor very much at all, so I'll bow out. :\

TC is not the only one who's busy.......

[Noyade]

Hi Ken.

Another motor-glider....:)

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4446/black434.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/black434.jpg/)

Listed, but not illustrated, in Aerofiles, so maybe you can try the Sinco Code Trick? He's just had a coffee and won't be back for a while. :)

[Noyade]

Aerofiles 1pCB

Powered by two very small piston engines with pusher props mounted on pylons behind the cockpit.

[skytrain10]

Hi Graeme...first one I come to that meets the criteria is the Corcoran 65-1?

[Lightning Mate]

Just past midnight in NSW.

Has he gone :zzz:?

Now what.......................

[Lightning Mate]

Ken,

I'm sure you have it, but with no photographs available, (at least I can't find any), there is no conclusive evidence.

Are we going to play the usual "jury" card?

[SincoTC]

A'rtnoon Gents,

Just having a lunch time look; I agree with Ken's answer and confirm that adding "Pusher" to the 1pCB code only returns the Corcoran 65-1 in an Aerofiles search. Like you, I can't easily find a picture on the Web and expect it's from Graeme's Bumper book of Bipes".

I'm sure he would expect us to carry on! Go for it Ken :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Concurred.

I think I've solved his engine challenge as well.

[skytrain10]

Thanks David and Trevor
I certainly can't see anything else in Aerofiles that matches the criteria. I have heard of the Coracoran so I'm guessing it must figure in a magazine or book I have somewhere. Anyway I will carry on with the next challenge:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/b7e2bd9c.jpg

[Noyade]

Just concurring the Corcoran (say that fast) with the photo used...

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/8751/img434g.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/img434g.jpg/)

next challenge:Argentina? :)

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme....thanks re the Coracoran. I recognise the photo but can't think where I've seen it.

No more Argentinian challenges for a while! This one is European, 1930's.

[Noyade]

Polish Ken?

[skytrain10]

Not Polish Graeme....try a western European country.

[Lightning Mate]

Land of vin et boursin ?

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry Ken but I can't see any image! :(

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Martin.

Do you want me to PM it to you?

[skytrain10]

Land of vin et boursin ? That'll be the place:ok:

Repeat image below:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/b7e2bd9c.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

A Caudron?

[skytrain10]

A Caudron? Straight in...yes, a Caudron:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

C280 Phalene?

[skytrain10]

C280 Phalene? Nope! Think that had a radial engine?

[Lightning Mate]

Some had inverted in-line fours.

Caudron C.480 Frégate then?

...or C.510 Pélican.

[skytrain10]

Not the C480...that had slightly swept wings.

The C510 is very close...but not quite there:)

[Lightning Mate]

#*">~#|!|!...

[skytrain10]

#*">~#|!|!... If you say so:)

Same year of manufacture as the C.510 and very similar looking save for the tail, which on most C510's was significantly higher than on the challenge aircraft, and the engine exhaust, which on the 510 goes further back.

[Karlark]

Caudron C.410.

Swoop :) open house if correct... have to get at work.

[buttrick]

On the strength that that is the same photo in Aviafrance


http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7571/x25t.jpg
I would dearly like some info on this particularly a reliable source

[skytrain10]

Caudron C.410. It is indeed the Caudron C.410 Karl. Well done:ok:,

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/f8f56e31.jpg

David, you came so close so if I may, in light of Karl's OH call, I award control to LM.

Buttrick, sorry but is your post a proposed challenge in view of Karl's call for OH or are you questioning whether it is a Caudron C.410?

[Lightning Mate]

Just out of class and watching with interest.....

[skytrain10]

Just out of class and watching with interest..... Are you able to post something (as control is yours) or should I make it Open House?

[buttrick]

A proposed challenge. I would really like a source for info on this one!

[Lightning Mate]

Are you able to post something (as control is yours) or should I make it Open House?

buttrick has said a "proposed challenge" so I'm not sure what that means.

If he's able to monitor then I'm happy to go with his. If not, I have one ready.

[skytrain10]

Hi buttrick...currently LightningMate has control, which I offered in light of him coming very close to answering my last challenge (which was correctly identified by Karl). As regards to your post, are you saying that you don't know what it is? Or are you not certain that Aviafrance is correct? It actually looks very familiar and I'm thinking we've had it as a previous challenge. Let me check.

David, please go ahead with your next challenge.

[Lightning Mate]

OK then......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/nicetobeback.jpg

[skytrain10]

Blimey...an early motorglider? American?

[Lightning Mate]

No and yes. :)

[Lightning Mate]

Going home now - back in about an hour.

edit - back.

Looks like you have the thread to yourself Ken.

[skytrain10]

Hi David...I've assumed this is a US designn, if for no other reason than there appears to be what is probably an N registered aircraft in the background...but initial Aerofiles searches have not proved very useful:(. Assume single or two seat open cockpit?

[Lightning Mate]

Single seat.

In my post *5786 I answered you with American.

The challenge is the original version. In Aerofiles is an image of it with four modifications.

[skytrain10]

See what you mean re modifications....the Replogle Gold Bug?

In my post *5786 I answered you with American. You did! However having struggled through Aerofiles I was beginning to think that it was South American, and therefore not in Aerofiles:)

[MReyn24050]

The 'Silhouette Challenge List' has been updated up to and including 09 Feb 2012.
Mel

[skytrain10]

Thanks as ever Mel:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/thanksMel.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

See what you mean re modifications....the Replogle Gold Bug?

:D:D

Back to you Ken. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks David:ok:

Here's the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/ad87f923.jpg

Offline for a while for dinner. Will check in later.

[SincoTC]

Afternoon Ken,

A busy weekend for me, but grabbing some time for a quick look-in :)

Intrigued by the silhouette around the spinner, do we see a foreplane and a wing? if so, is it a tandem, Canard or three-lifting-surface jobber?

[skytrain10]

Intrigued by the silhouette around the spinner, do we see a foreplane and a wing? if so, is it a tandem, Canard or three-lifting-surface jobber? Nothing so interesting Trevor...just a couple of antenna's on the starboard wing that just happen to show because of the angle of the photo. So a conventional arrangement.

[Lightning Mate]

Good afternoon Ken. :)

Is it retractable or not?

(issa kincold ere - wassa Pembrokeshire?)

[skytrain10]

Hi David, not retractable.

Cold here, currently +4C.

[Lightning Mate]

.....just a couple of antenna's on the starboard wing

Don't believe it - more like probes.............

[skytrain10]

Don't believe it - more like probes............. May be, they're not mentioned in the text about the aircraft, and I believe the aircraft pictured may be the prototype. To help you along a recent design...2000's.

[SincoTC]

Evening Ken,

Back a little later than anticipated!

Is it an Ilyushin Il-103 ??

[Noyade]

Evening Trevor.

Oh for heavens sake! So that dorsal fillet on Ken's silhouette is the wing cutting across the camera angle?

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

Yes I think it is, but I did spend a while this morning chasing non existant foreplanes/canards :)

However, I haven't found a photo from that angle, plus it's missing an aerial behind the cockpit, so it may not be correct!!

[Noyade]

Ken's tail-tip looks a little broader, but apart from that, a match? He did say it was the prototype...

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8074/ad87f923.jpg (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/ad87f923.jpg/)
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/7568/img440r.jpg (http://img862.imageshack.us/i/img440r.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

He did say it was the prototype...

"maybe the prototype"

[Noyade]

G'day David. :)

[Lightning Mate]

G'day mate. :)

Your aeroplane registration is RA 10300.

That is listed as an Il-103.

[Noyade]

Very good. You've found a Russian aircraft registration site, care to share? :)

Have you found Ken's source photo?

[Lightning Mate]

Trevor,

For me it's 64 days to go - wot about you mate?


Have you found Ken's source photo?

No mate.

[SincoTC]

Evening David,

41 days and counting :( !! Still, who gives a sh:mad:t :)!!

[Lightning Mate]

I do - cos we stop paying National Insurance.

The :mad:s will get less....................:ok::ok::ok:

[Noyade]

Still, who gives a shhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/censored.gift http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif!!

Pension card in the mail?

Think of the discounts!! :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Pension card in the mail?

Think of the discounts!! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


Got 10% discount in a couple stores, but usually only on Wednesdays, which is not very clever when you're working!

Been eligible for a bus pass for several years. I ain't got one coz buses are crap and don't go where I want to go.

Smart Cars, though, do. ;)

Also here you don't pay for medical prescriptions past 60.

[SincoTC]

we stop paying National Insurance

The http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/censored.gifs will get less....................

Pension card in the mail?

Think of the discounts!! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif



:):) I'll drink to all that :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

I'll drink to absolutely anything!!!

Are you going to take your pension or delay?

I'm going for it straightaway, despite having two good pensions already.

Grab it whilst you can mate ...................:):)

Now boarding the stairlift to the next floor - nite nite to you both.

[Noyade]

Did any of you guys upset Ken? He's usually here by now. Us youngsters have to stick together! :p

Now boarding the stairlift to the next floor

Bon voyage! Don't burn out the motor.... and don't forget your urinal. :)

[SincoTC]

Grab it whilst you can mate ...................http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gifhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Makes sense, 'coz you can't take it with you and I've got nobody to leave it to :)

Goodnight LM, sleep well!

Did any of you guys upset Ken? He's usually here by now

Don't think so mate, I expect he'll show up in the next hour (or sooner):)!

[skytrain10]

Evening/Morning Guys
Been busy this evening. but back now.
Not an IL-103 and no connection that I can see.
Looks like a few more details are needed. It has been designed as a multirole utility aircraft which first flew last year, somewhat oddly NOT in its country of origin.

[skytrain10]

All, apologies guys, perils of not checking properly.

We've had this one back in September, so challenge withdrawn. It was the CSIR-NAL CNM-5. Found it under Mahindra whilst working on another challenge.

Trevor got it last time.

OPEN HOUSE

[Noyade]

Evening Ken.

Not an IL-103 and no connection that I can see.

We're shattered mate. :(:)

So, is there a dorsal fillet?
Many built?

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken, I had my doubts!!

In that case, how about the Indian Mahindra-NAL C-NM5 ??

[Noyade]

Trevor got it last time.

Then Trevor can have it again. :ok:

Your control Trevor (see the previous page mate).

[Noyade]

All, apologies guys, perils of not checking properly.(Ken, your making us look bad in front of the old people....:rolleyes:)

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken, no need to apologise, we've all done it!!

The memory bells began to jangle when I found the photo of the Mahindra, I think Reg posted it and I remember it had a curious "toasting fork" on the wing!!

Your control Trevor (see the previous page mate).

Thanks Graeme, I had missed that!

Another on the way, I guarantee it wont last 'til the new day!!

[skytrain10]

Ken, your making us look bad in front of the old people I know. It's funny when I was looking at it I thought it was familiar. I did my usual check of the the lists, by doing a search for NAL, nothing, then NM-5, nothing, then NM.5, nothing. I forgot to do NM5:{

Incidentally thought you would have got it bearing in mind where it did its first flight....Australia. It's registered owner is Gippsland! Look up VH-XNM:ok:

Trevor....I agree, control is yours.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken,

Here's another lamb to the slaughter!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf207.jpg

[Noyade]

Looks Polish?

[skytrain10]

I agree Graeme...the wing is very similar to the RWD-8. Unfortunately the rest of the aircraft isn't!

Edit, take that back. I think.it is the RWD-8. Seems its design changes depending on where you look.

If correct will have to be Open House as hitting the hay now.

[SincoTC]

I said it wouldn't last :ugh:!

Well done Ken, you beat the Wizard to it :D

It is the Polish RWD.8 it does seem to have quite a lot of variations, this one has beefed-up U/C struts!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/rwd8-3.jpg

skytrain10 has declared an Open house :ok:

[Karlark]

'morning all. Here's one for the open house....

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/37-5.jpg

I suspect it won't last long. :)

[SincoTC]

Afternoon Karl,

RWD.6 :)

[Karlark]

Of course it is Trevor. :ok:
Your control.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Karl,

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf208.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Trevor.

The fin and tailskid are pure Halberstadt, but the cockpit is a long way aft.

I'll shoot for the CL IV.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Halberstadt_CL_IV_1921_Starting_from_Cannstatter_Wasen_272x2 40.jpg

[SincoTC]

I'll shoot for the CL IV

Good shooting LM, just as we would expect from a true fighter pilot!! :D

It is the Halberstadt CL IV

Lightning Mate has control :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Trevor - a good start to the day. :)

A nice old sepia photograph....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/sunjob.jpg

[SincoTC]

Is the background original, 'coz it shows British made cars circa 1960 ?

A single seater and British ?

[Lightning Mate]

The background is original apart from the fact that I have brushed out the words on the building.

Single seat but not British, and I'll be very surprised if the cars are.........

Wot you fink the cars are?

[evansb]

The Swedish built BA-4 ?

[SincoTC]

Wot you fink the cars are?

Well, they look like a Hillman Minx Ser III on the right and the other a BMC 1100.

Edit: looks like a good call from Alberta :D

[Lightning Mate]

The Swedish built BA-4 ?

Nice shot Bri - the original Andreasson from 1944.

Wot you doing up so early on a Sunday?

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/AndreassonBA-4.jpg

evansb has control. :ok:

[evansb]

Thank you. Yes, an especially early Sunday morning for me. Doing a favour for a colleague. I think that Hillman is a Volvo P121..

Here is the next challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120212.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Twin piston I assume..

[evansb]

Yes, twin piston.

[Lightning Mate]

WW2......?

[evansb]

Yes, World War II.

[Lightning Mate]

German or Jap.....? :uhoh:

[evansb]

Neither...

[sycamore]

Brissel Beaufort...OH if correct

[Lightning Mate]

What on earth is that..!!!!!!!!!

[evansb]

Well, it is a Bristol Beaufort. sycamore got the Beaufort part correct, but he is incapable of posting photos. As requested, it is OPEN HOUSE.


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7228/beaufortcolour.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry Bri - there is no way the Beaufort fin lower leading edge looked like your silhouette.

Where was your reference?

[evansb]

The photo is grainy, but the image has all the hallmarks of a Beaufort. ). The tail-wheel was retractable on some marks.. No other aircraft type even faintly resembles it. I had to paint out the RAF roundel and the letter "A" to the right of the roundel before posting. Curved alloy extensions were added later to the tailing edges to improve dive handling.
I'll see if I can relocate the source of the photo.


http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6867/bristolbeauforts217squa.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Beware the net.....
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/beaufort2.jpg

[evansb]

Look closer and you can see the outline of the leading edge of the vertical stab. To the right of your yellow outline.. It is faint but it is visible. Tail wheel? What tail wheel? The aircraft was deemed slow, so improvements were made to give it a few extra knots. The Australian made Beauforts had completely enclosed landing gear, and different antenna.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4879/448ee920.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Ah yes - now I can see it......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/beaufortdiving.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

An OH prevails........

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/moonliight.jpg

Beethoven.............

[skytrain10]

Evening David...good to see some activity on a Sunday. Been out and about today now that the weather has picked up a bit.

Are we looking at a somewhat high tailed aircraft flying towards us? Do I see a pusher prop?

[evansb]

The silhouette reminds me of the Japanese Linnet I, and II, man-powered aircraft. I'll say it is the Nihon University's Linnet I..

[skytrain10]

I think you could be right there Brian. Not sure on the connection with Beethoven though....guess I was entirely on the wrong track!

[Lightning Mate]

I'll say it is the Nihon University's Linnet I..

And you would be right yet again!

More importantly...............

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Ken.jpg

evansb has control again. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Not sure on the connection with Beethoven though

The illustration looks like a moonlight scene..........................

Oh well - never mind!

[skytrain10]

Thanks David...finally got there:ok:

The illustration looks like a moonlight scene. Ahh, yes I was definitely on the wrong track there!

[evansb]

Thanks, that was fun! Here is the next silhouette, and easy three-view:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120212A.jpg

[Karlark]

Is it the PZL CSS-12?

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/19-3-1.jpg

[evansb]

Karlark is correct:ok: Your turn.

[Karlark]

Thanks EvansB. That was an obscure one... here is the next SC :):

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/35-6.jpg

Edit: Please carry on as usual if identified. :zzz:

[evansb]

PZL M-4 Tarpan ? What ? No Polish aeronautical enthusiasts ? Besides fixing British plumbing ailments and installing laminate flooring and PVC double-glazed windows, they were also very high scoring aces in the last global skirmish.. Lest we forget..

[Lightning Mate]

Looks like a strike. :ok:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/PZL-M4Tarpan.jpg

Karlark did say carry on as usual - we need a seconder now.

[Noyade]

Seconded.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6631/img441f.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/img441f.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

G'day mate. :ok:

[Noyade]

G'day David and Brian. :)

No Polish aeronautical enthusiasts ?Most definitely mate. But in future can you please keep them between 1893-1939. Makes searching a whole lot easier. ;) (Unfortunately I did a man look for the latest AviaQuiz. :()

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3469/indexmwd.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/indexmwd.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

It's 1319 in Lethbridge, so although his light is on, I suspect Brian is :zzz::zzz:

[Noyade]

Is it the PZL CSS-12

Very nice challenge Brian. :ok: Completely new to me. Thought it may be Polish but I was looking at French machines.

Early start tomorrow. Cheers.

[Karlark]

Edit: Good on the Tarpan, Brian :D... it's a PZL-fest. :)

It is your control. Sorry for the error - still working on my first cup of Eye opener. :hmm:

[Lightning Mate]

Didn't Brian win on post #5869 ?

[Karlark]

Afternoon LM. Thanks for the heads up, see edit above. :)

[Ridge Runner]

still working on my first cup of Eye opener.

I guess Brian is too! ;)

[Lightning Mate]

.....and only a few hours to go to the first glass of eye closer......:E

[evansb]

Yup, I'm up and at'em. Here is the next silhouette challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120213.jpg

[skytrain10]

Morning Bri, is it the PZL S.4 Kania?

[evansb]

Good morning (or good afternoon) skytrain10. You are spot on:ok: You have control.

[Ridge Runner]

Yuo boys just can't get out of the Polish theme, can you? ! :)

[skytrain10]

Thanks evansb....outside the coverage of Putnam's classic work, but fortunately I had one other resource to rely on!

Afternoon Martin....you'll be pleased to know this one is NOT Polish:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/f74f1e5d.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Hiya Ken!!! A fighter, mate? RR

[skytrain10]

Not a fighter Martin.

[SincoTC]

First chance to log on today,

Evening Ken, is that a SPAD S.58 Racer ??

It'll have to be OH if it is, as I've gotta go now and not sure if I can get back tonight :(

[skytrain10]

Evening Ken, is that a SPAD S.58 Racer ?? Evening Trevor. Good call as ever, it is indeed the S.58:ok: A one off, dervived from the Spad S.41 for the Coupe Deutch de la Meurthe of 1922. Unfortunately it failed to finish due to a radiator problem.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d23f8c58.jpg

SincoTC has requested Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

SincoTC has requested Open House.

'Aint that the way.......................... :)

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/offyougo-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Morning David....an American design? Reminds me of a stretched Stinson 105!

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Ken.

Not American - North European.

[Ridge Runner]

A KZ, David??

[SincoTC]

Good morning Gents :),

David, that looks like the Finnish Karhu 48B ?

[Lightning Mate]

that looks like the Finnish Karhu 48B

It does doesn't it.

All yours mate. :D

[SincoTC]

Thanks David,

Another busy day here, but I'll leave my light on and monitor when I can :)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf209.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Anzani engine?

[SincoTC]

Not an Anzani, this one has a lot more beans and cylinders!!

[Lightning Mate]

Designed for speed?

[SincoTC]

Designed for speed?

Well yes; but only inasmuch as a fighter doesn't want to be a slow-coach, as you well know! It toted a pair of 7.7mm Vickers MG

[Noyade]

Looks like the Romanian IAR.14 fighter Trevor?
If it is, Open House. Early start tomorrow. Know the feeling mate? :)

[Lightning Mate]

I feel a rude Aussie joke coming on...............:(

[SincoTC]

Good evening and goodnight Graeme :)!

It is indeed the Romanian IAR.14 Fighter, fitted with a license built Lorraine-Dietrich 12 Eb, 12-cylinder W-form watercooled in-line 340 kW (450 hp)

I.A.R. 14 - fighter (http://www.aviastar.org/air/romania/iar-14.php)

Noyade has requested an Open House Sleep well :ok:

Edit: sorry to disappoint LM; can't think of one right now!

[Lightning Mate]

OH for too long.........

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/bluewater-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Is it the Lawrence-Lewis A1 flying boat?

[Lightning Mate]

What kept you?

Your service. :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Lawrence-Lewis A1 flying boat?

I think (?) I posted that a while back, mate?

Edit: June 2011, i think.

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Champagne-Popping.jpg


I think (?) I posted that a while back, mate?

Can't see it.

[Ridge Runner]

OK but i definitely posted it. This is what i posted:

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune100611A.jpg

PS: thanks for the "4,000" message! :)

[Lightning Mate]

My pleasure.

All I can find on Mels' list is the Lawrence Water Glider. :confused:

Mine is the Lawrence enclosed cabin flying boat........

I can't relate yours to this:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Lawrenceflyingboat.jpg

[skytrain10]

Thanks David.

Here is the next challenge - should be an easy one:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/de704c65.jpg

[drag king]

DORNIER DO 27 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_27)?

DK :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

the Vipan??????????

[skytrain10]

Neither of those guys

[Ridge Runner]

An AOP machine, Ken????

Edit: those u/c struts seem to come up the fuselage side a long way, Ken. Is that correct? And are those small windows on top of the cabin, hence the AOP question?

[skytrain10]

Hi Martin.
Not an AOP machine mate.
Yes the struts do come up the fuselage sides a fair way.
Those are windows on top behind the windscreen.

[Ridge Runner]

And gull-winged? of sorts?

[diesel addict]

Edgar Percival EP-9 ???

If correct OH

[skytrain10]

Edgar Percival EP-9 That's the one diesel addict:ok:

diesel addict has declared Open House

[Lightning Mate]

Not again......................:eek::eek:

[skytrain10]

Well, in order to keep things moving:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/c6f55010.jpg

Offline soon but will look in later on.

[Noyade]

Hi Ken.

Where was your last challenge from, the UK? Therefore we must now be in...South America? :)

[Lightning Mate]

France?...Potez?...

[skytrain10]

Not the UK or France. Bit like LM's recent challenge....northern Europe:)

[Lightning Mate]

Scandinavian or further South?

[skytrain10]

Scandinavian or further South? Scandinavia:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Something from SAI?..........:\

[skytrain10]

Not from SAI David.

[Lightning Mate]

Wrong country then?

[skytrain10]

Wrong country then? Yep, but cross a big bridge and you'll be there:)

[Lightning Mate]

Ah so - Sveden.

[skytrain10]

Sweden it is:ok: Adapted from a 1930's American aircraft.

[Ridge Runner]

Adapted from a Cruiser?

[skytrain10]

Adapted from a Cruiser? No, something altogether older...1930's aircraft which had a radial engine. In fact the original challenge aircraft also had a radial.

[Lightning Mate]

Was that radial a Wright J5?

[Ridge Runner]

So, originally an American Eagle Eaglet 31?

[Lightning Mate]

Was it a Cessna BW?

[skytrain10]

Was that radial a Wright J5? 2 different radials were used, but neither was a Wright.
So, originally an American Eagle Eaglet 31? No, the aircraft was (in my view) more well known.
Was it a Cessna BW? No

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon Gents,

Ken, I think I got this at coffee break, but had to "go(back)to Work :)

I think it's the appropriately names Gotaverken GV-38 ?? Based on the Rearwin Sportster I think

[skytrain10]

I think it's the appropriately names Gotaverken GV-38 ?? Based on the Rearwin Sportster I think Got it one Trevor:ok: It was originally a licence built version of the Rearwin 9000L Sportster, fitted with a Ken Royce or LeBond radial. The aircraft were later updated to what you see below:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/2183e07e.jpg

A few of these still survive, although I gather only the above machine is still current.

SincoTC has control

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken, that was a good one :ok:

This on the other hand is a hastily chosen and I suspect not too difficult subject.

Gotta work again, but will leave my light on and monitor as often as possible!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf210.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Rearwin 9000L Sportster

Very nice, Ken!

[Ridge Runner]

Is yours a Jerry, Trevor???

[SincoTC]

Not German Martin, but you're not far off :)

[skytrain10]

Lohner Type A triplane?

[SincoTC]

That's the one Ken, the Austro-Hungarian Lohner Type A triplane :D

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/lohnera-11.jpg

skytrain10 has control :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

OK, Austro-Hungarian

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor....here's my somewhat hastily prepared offering....

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/abaaf83a.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

A racer mate, or one those cabin machines with a cockpit atop? French?

[skytrain10]

A racer, yes:ok: That is the cockpit rear of the wing. Not French though.

[Lightning Mate]

A floatplane?

[skytrain10]

A floatplane? Not a floatplane David.

[Ridge Runner]

Is it a yank, Ken? I was going to go for Italian but it really isn't sleek enough :) Its chunky so I guess it could be from the over there? :)

RR

[Ridge Runner]

What are the two rectangular shapes behind the wings, ken?

[skytrain10]

Its chunky so I guess it could be from the over there? Tis' indeed Martin.

What are the two rectangular shapes behind the wings, Extremely good question and perhaps an unusual location, but they are radiators.

[Noyade]

Evening Ken.

The Curtiss-Cox Texas Wildcat?

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4395/img447zi.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/img447zi.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Morning Graeme.
The Curtiss-Cox Texas Wildcat? That's the one - in its monoplane as opposed to biplane form:ok:.Figured you would get it pretty quickly - I recall you have the same book as me "Speed Seekers".

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/82c79cfa.jpg

Noyade has control

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken.

Speed Seekers? Missed opportunity mate. Melbourne 1987, Swanson St bookshop. Choice was US Fighters vs Speed Seekers. Bad choice - life is full of them. :)

Top one is the GIMP. Bottom, the old contrast method. I'll accept an answer for either one. :)

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9905/black446.jpg (http://img713.imageshack.us/i/black446.jpg/)

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2479/img446.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/img446.jpg/)

The engine can be seen on the Challenge Thread. The old Two from One trick.

[Noyade]

Looking at both line drawings above of the Curtiss, neither make any sense compared to the photo regards the cockpit/framing?

[one11]

Spotted one that i think I recognise when just passing through.....

Looks like the Jet ( Nene or ATAR) version of the Sud Oest SO.30 Bretagne.

Open house if correct

[Noyade]

Sorry mate, outside hanging up the washing. A man's work is never done. :)
Hope life is treating you well one11?

Open house it is...

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8220/img448.jpg (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/img448.jpg/)

[one11]

Yes i m fine - someday I ll sort out some more challenges but until then its better not to generate too many OH's for the regulars.

[Karlark]

Here's one for the open house;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/43-3.jpg

[Super Cecil]

That's the same as the one Tin Tin caught to North Africa :8

[Super Cecil]

*I was mistaken, it was Biggles new monoplane when he was hauling fuel in Alaska.

[Karlark]

I confirm that Tintin did not fly in this aircraft. You did have me brushing up on all the adventures, though, Super Cecil. :)

If identified, please carry on as usual. :zzz:

[Noyade]

G'day Karlark.

Very much doubt Tin Tin or Biggles have flown the Darmstadt D.29. But then again, who knows? :)

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3892/1402bl.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/1402bl.jpg/)

[Karlark]

Noyade! :ok: Had one last look before shutting down. :)

Your control.

[Noyade]

Thanks Karlark. Open house.

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning/evening. :)

Early bird..........

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/brownday.jpg

[SincoTC]

Coffee time! Not many about today mate :(

Gotta go again (Rep visiting!!)

Long open cockpit Two or three seat in there? Is that a Genet Engine?

[Lightning Mate]

Yes, it is indeed quiet, and I currently have three challenges going!

Single seater and the engine is not a Genet mate.

Only one made.

[skytrain10]

Afternoon David...first chance I've had to look in. Looks familiar but seeing as only one produced I suspect I am thinking of something else. European design, late 20's or early 30's?

[Lightning Mate]

Good afternoon Ken. :)

1929 - European again........

[skytrain10]

Svenska Aero J.5 Jaktfalken I believe?

[Lightning Mate]

Do you now!

New balls please - next service - all yours. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks David.

Next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/dc0d71da.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Land of pizza and Chianti?

[skytrain10]

Land of pizza and Chianti? Nope...nearby though:)

[Lightning Mate]

oh..oh...here we go again.......:)

Nope...nearby thoughhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

as in border?

[skytrain10]

as in border? Yes....we've had one recently from this country.

[Lightning Mate]

Going home - back soon.

[Lightning Mate]

If I assume pre-war Europe:

France
Switzerland
Austria
Yugoslavia

Recently we have had one Austro-Hungarian and three French, but you say we have had one recently from this country.

I'll shoot for France.

[skytrain10]

I'll shoot for France Spot on:ok: Not pre-war though - more a case of during war:)

[Lightning Mate]

Can't make much fit at the moment, but it's not another Caudron is it?

The cowling length makes me think a long in-line engine, possibly a Renault.

[skytrain10]

Not a Caudron and not a Renault engine.

[SincoTC]

Evening Gentlemen,

Work finished, so another look-in before home :)

Ken, is that a Mauboussin M-202 ??

[Lightning Mate]

......bugger............

[skytrain10]

Ken, is that a Mauboussin M-202 ?? It is Trevor:ok: I guess the "during the war" comment made searches a little easier:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/0387a27d-1.jpg

SincoTC has control

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken, "during the war" did help :)

Sorry it's not a silhouette, but it's all I can easily do here!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf211.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

very odd.

This bipe seems to have lower surface leading edge high lift devices on the top wing!

[SincoTC]

I don't think so mate, at least there's no mention in my source. Are you sure it's not just the short glimpse of the spaced ribs of the upper wing looking like supports for a slat?

[Lightning Mate]

I am now!!

[SincoTC]

Just checked several other references, but no mention of any high-lift devices, slots, slats or anything else; but all being on the web, that doesn't mean to say there isn't :)

Off home now, will put my light back on when I get there!

I'm back!

[Noyade]

Finally woke up to what it was! :)

Everly Brothers - Wake up little Susie/Should we tell him - YouTube

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/539/651b1a1.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/i/651b1a1.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

A'rtnoon Graeme,

Snap!! :D

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/aichi_susie-s.gif

You have it mate (and one of my unused clues too)!!! The Aichi D1A2 Susie

Noyade has control :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor.

Here's an easy one, as there is a big storm brewing and I'm not sure if that very fragile and very long telegraph line from Oz to UK will survive...

:ooh:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7150/11201142.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/11201142.jpg/)

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6379/blacker.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/blacker.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Evening mate. :)

Twin boom?

[Noyade]

Morning David. :)

Not twin boomed mate.


Wouldn't happen in a Merc, eh mate?! :)....


http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6249/img449a.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/img449a.jpg/)