Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[SincoTC]

Good morning and sorry irishair, it's not German :)

[skytrain10]

Morning Trevor. Working weekend unfortunately, so not had much opportunity to look in. Would your latest be the CANT 26 from Italy? Bit of a long shot as so far have only found a poor quality photo, but it looks about right :)

[SincoTC]

Morning Ken,

Don't work too hard mate :)

Sorry, but it's not from Italy

[skytrain10]

Don't work too hard mate Unfortunately it seems to have been a crazy couple of weeks. Ever hopeful things will calm down - just in time for the Summer season when it all gets manic again.

Sorry, but it's not from Italy Good job I kept looking then! I feel somewhat more confident about the PZL-5 :)

[SincoTC]

I feel somewhat more confident about the PZL-5 http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

You've every reason to be confident Ken, 'coz it is the PZL-5 from Poland :D

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/Pzl5.jpg

skytrain10 has control :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Trevor. Here's the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/468643e8.jpg

[SincoTC]

Going to be fairly busy away from the computer myself this afternoon, but I have to keep an eye on "what Cockpit" too, so I'll trawl for yours when I can.

Is it another French fighter ? Hispano-Suiza engine,

[skytrain10]

Is it another French fighter ? Hispano-Suiza engine, Correct on both counts Trevor:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Good evening Ken.

That fin smells of Nieuport.

[skytrain10]

Afternoon David:)

Not a Nieuport design.

[skytrain10]

No progress with this one, so a clue. First flew in 1918. Never went in to production.

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Ken.

Do I see an external radiator below the cockpit?

[skytrain10]

Morning David:)

Do I see an external radiator below the cockpit? Not that I can see. Looking at a photo I believe what you are looking at is just a pipe of some sort. Don't know its purpose.

[Lightning Mate]

Oh..!

If it was the V8 Hisso then it would have to be cooled somehow, hence my thought.

Neither can I see any obvious armament, so did it have a gun firing through the spinner, or was it not designed as a fighter?

[Noyade]

Descamps 27?

Open house if it is.

[Lightning Mate]

Evening smartass. :)

So it was indeed a radiator on each side.

[skytrain10]

David, I was evidently looking in the wrong place. I thought what you were referring to was the protusion beneath the fuselage. Sorry yes, there are radiators either side of the cockpit.

It was designed as a fighter, and fitted with 2 synchronised guns.

[Lightning Mate]

Look up Ken. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Sorry David, I am working on a high speed broadband line that is giving me a speed of approx 50 kbps at present so replying is a slow process:(

Yes, Graeme, it is the Descamps 27 aka C1:ok:. Just the one built but development was abandoned in 1919 in favour of the Nieuport 29.

More information here: Descamps 27 (http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/FarnikClement/9305.htm)

Noyade has declared Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

I am working on a high speed broadband line that is giving me a speed of approx 50 kbps at present so I replying is a slow processhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/sowee.gif

Blimey mate - move house!

edit: are you at work?

[skytrain10]

Blimey mate - move house! They've been working on the lines around here so hopefully things will improve. Just somewhat frustrating at present!

[Lightning Mate]

I agree. We're lucky here.

Only you and me around again, and trucky 04 can't post....

[Lightning Mate]

Ken,

Wanna one?

[skytrain10]

We're lucky here. Dare I say it, but we are lucky here too! There are places just a couple of miles from us that have no Broadband and are not likely to get it because it is too expensive to put the lines in. Normally the download speed here is about 900-1000 kbps - not great by most peoples standards I guess, but good enough for most things, unless you spend your days watching videos:)

If you've got something mate go for it....I can't research online much but I still have books! No UAV's though!!

[Lightning Mate]

As requested, not a UAV....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/oddball-2.jpg

[skytrain10]

Mmm, not in my books! Would this be a French, or at least European, design?

[Lightning Mate]

Would this be a French, or at least European, design?

1. no
2, yes

[skytrain10]

Is it the Pensutti-Caproni Triplane?

[Lightning Mate]

Is it the Pensutti-Caproni Triplane?

Remove the question mark and one of the 't's and it's all yours. :D

[skytrain10]

Thanks David :ok:. Will be off air soon whilst BT do their thing. Not sure how long it will be so I'll make it Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

Oh dear.

Well, I'm not going to put another up so we'll wait.

Hope the electrikery works out ok.

[Ridge Runner]

OH?? Well, how about this?

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune030312A.jpg

[skytrain10]

Well that tail should be instantly recognisable....sadly it's not:( There looks to be a substantial dihedral on the wings Martin....are the outer wings cranked upwards a la Jodel? Come to think of it other that the tail it is very Jodel like:)

[Lightning Mate]

'evening all.


Well that tail should be instantly recognisable....

It is to me, a PIK, but nothing else fits.:\

[Ridge Runner]

Nothing to do with Jodel, Ken. This is the only image I have found of it and so, to me, the wings are staight, not cranked up at the ends.

Not a PIK, David

[skytrain10]

Thanks Martin....are we looking at something exotic? Maybe South or Central American?

[Ridge Runner]

Yes, mate!

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning all.

I have just heard on the news that 9000 people have beem evacuated from Graemes' town. Hope he and family are OK.

[skytrain10]

Just seen on the news David...as you say lets all hope Graeme and family are fine.

[skytrain10]

Martin...from Brazil? Maybe the IPT-16?

[Ridge Runner]

I'll second that..... good luck Graeme et al!!

[Ridge Runner]

Morning Ken!!! Not a brasilean, mate

[skytrain10]

Ok, next obvious one would be Argentina?

[Ridge Runner]

That would be wise, Ken


Counting the minutes now .... :)

[Lightning Mate]

Is it from I.Ae ?

[Ridge Runner]

Morning David.

Not an I.Ae product

[Lightning Mate]

Well, I have been looking at Aero Boero, but can't find anything low wing, so I guess it's not from there either.

[Ridge Runner]

and you'd be correct, David, its not an Aero Boero

[skytrain10]

Are we looking at a 1960's design Martin?

[Lightning Mate]

Did the manufacturer also built stuff under licence?

[Ridge Runner]

David, I'll get back to you on that

Ken, no, earlier

[Ridge Runner]

David, yes

[skytrain10]

Something from IMPA? The RR-11 maybe?

[Lightning Mate]

....:eek::eek:....

Tusa?

[Ridge Runner]

Boys, sorry but somehow PPrune has lost my confirmation that it was the RR-11! :( Ken has CONTROL!!!! IMPA is an interesting company!!!! Wesworld - IMPA (Compania Industria Metalurgica & Plastica S.A.) (http://wesworld.jk-clan.de/thread.php?postid=107325)

[Lightning Mate]

This one is flagged as the Tusa, but I would have given it to Ken anyway because he did all the work. :)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/533059.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Yes, David, clearly the one! :) Ken just got in a touch earlier!

[skytrain10]

Somewhat confused. No photo of the aircraft on the link you provided Martin. Ironically in my searches I assumed it wasn't the Tusa simply because quite a lot had been produced. Anyway it certainly appears to be the Tusa, assuming the source of that picture is correct, so I believe control should be with LM.

[Lightning Mate]

That's nice of you Ken, but as I said earlier you did the work and finding the Tusa was straightforward.

The Tusa and RR-11 are not, as far as I can see, the same aeroplane at all.

I feel control should rest with you mate. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Martin's gone mate, so it's all yours.:)

[skytrain10]

Thanks David, that's kind of you. I am still a little puzzled though - so is there a photo of the RR-11 anywhere? Obviously at some point it was on the website that Martin referred to, but it appears to have disappeared?

Anyway, here is the next challenge:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/c511ca41.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

I am unable to find a photo of the RR-11 anywhere, but the Tusa appears on more than one Argentinian site.

As for your latest.......:mad:

[skytrain10]

As for your latest.......http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/censored.gif Its not from Argentina:)

[Lightning Mate]

Glad to hear it!

[Lightning Mate]

Two side-by-side or a single seater?

[skytrain10]

Two side-by-side or a single seater? 2 side-by-side at the front plus an optional 3rd seat behind.

[Lightning Mate]

Not paying much attention at the moment - working on work stuff.

Why don't you go across to the "Challenge" thread, where TC has left a juicy clue. ;)

[skytrain10]

I did look but really not much good on close ups. Clearly there is a clue there which did make me check a photo of what I thought it might be - but it wasn't!

[Lightning Mate]

What special tie do I have which cannot be purchased?;)

[Ridge Runner]

Ah, Ken, there lies a problem. My original image, not from the internet but a very detailed ext, refers to it being the IMPA RR-11. One built only. It says the Tusa was a follow-on from the shown machine, which was the prototype only. Therefore, in my mind, not the Tusa. RR

Edit: I just checked. There was one RR-11 (shown). It was built and first flown in 1942 and designer by Alfredo Davinz Ferrer. Built of Spruce and Birch there was just one. Later IMPA-designed the Tu-Sa, contracted in 1943 with a stipulated 25 aircraft production run. The RR-11 was powered by a Lycoming O-145-B2.

[skytrain10]

Interesting Martin. The way it is painted it looks as though it was a prototype, so it does make sense that it is the RR-11. Nice challenge mate.....now we just need to find a photo of a Tu-sa, which considering 25 were made you would have thought there would be one or two around?

So any thoughts on mine? A somewhat more recent design.

[Ridge Runner]

I think I found a photo of a Tu-sa but I lost the magazine it is in!!!! I did some sorting last weekend! :(

Yours? well, possibly Czech or Eastern European, I'd say. I think it's familiar but .......

RR

[Lightning Mate]

Transportation, Industry, Public Services, and more - Militariarg.com (http://www.militariarg.com/transportation-industry-public-services-and-more.html)

Scroll down........

[Ridge Runner]

I think I found a photo of a Tu-sa but I lost the magazine it is in!!!! I did some sorting last weekend! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/sowee.gif



Sorry, I found another photo of the RR-11 (the same machine), parked at BA. Still can't find te Tu-Sa.

Anyway, better leave it now ......

[skytrain10]

Yours? well, possibly Czech or Eastern European, I'd say. I think it's familiar but ....... Not a European design Martin.
Can you remember what mag you saw the Tu-sa in? You never know it may be online somewhere.

[Lightning Mate]

I think I found a photo of a Tu-sa but I lost the magazine it is in!!!!

Wot, since yesterday??????

Ken,

I believe your challenge is American.

[skytrain10]

I believe your challenge is American. Not American David.

[Noyade]

Thank you for the kind thoughts gentlemen. The Ark is battle-damaged but liveable. :ok:

The levee held and the river level is dropping. Evacuees hopefully moving back later today.

Wagga Wagga News, sport and weather | The Daily Advertiser (http://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/)

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/1236/1748878.jpg (http://img809.imageshack.us/i/1748878.jpg/)

The flood waters viewed from the Ark on Mt Ararat. A PPRuNe exclusive...

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5356/11201402.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/11201402.jpg/)

Shocked your challenge is not American Ken. :(

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Ken. :)

So, your challenge is not from Argentina, Europe, or the USA.

So is it from another South American country or perhaps Russia.

Off we go around the world...........:uhoh:

[skytrain10]

Morning.

Firstly, Graeme, glad to know all is ok and that the defences held. Amazing pictures. I reckon Mt Ararat is the place to be though - mind you, if you have thunder storms you could be a little exposed. Be kind of ironic to be safe on the mountain top and then get struck by lightening!

Back to the challenge, not from America (north or south), nor is it from Russia.

[Lightning Mate]

Antipodean?

[skytrain10]

Antipodean? Nope. I was actually expecting Martin to home in on this one:)

[Lightning Mate]

Let's hope he does because I ain't. :\

[skytrain10]

Better help you out then! Try Asia, originally designed in the 1960's, this variant first flew in the 70's.

[Ridge Runner]

Er... Indian, mate?

[Lightning Mate]

Revathi....?

[skytrain10]

Er... Indian, mate? Yes:ok:

Revathi....? Yes:ok: In fact its the Revathi 2 to be precise.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/60fae6c0.jpg

LM has control

[Lightning Mate]

Excellent challenge mate. :ok:

Dunno how long this will last......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wed-3.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

oh poo, but then I'd not heard of that one, mate!!! Nice!!

[Lightning Mate]

Unexpectedly just collected a struggling student - back in an hour.

[Ridge Runner]

David,

Assuming it was built and flew?
- twin engine/piston?
- torpedo bombing drone/UAV?
- modern era (1960s/70s)?

RR

[Lightning Mate]

'artnoon Martin.

Assuming it was built and flew? yes
- twin engine/piston? yes
- torpedo bombing drone/UAV? yes, initially manned then remote
- modern era (1960s/70s)? no - WW2

[Ridge Runner]

the TDR-1??????

http://www.mugualumni.org/secretarsenal/images/WWII27.gif

a nice challenge, David!!!

I'll be back in an hour to collect my cup! ::E

[Lightning Mate]

It's a deal Martin. :ok:

All yours mate.

[Ridge Runner]

I just realised that the Interstate TDR-1 has been posted before - 20 Oct 2010 and, if i remember, I posted it!! :( However, it was the piloted-version! :)

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/yawn-1.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry for the delay - can't get Photobucket to upload! :(

[Ridge Runner]

et voila!!!!!!

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune0700312A.jpg

[skytrain10]

Is it the AAC SeaStar Martin?

Or, if not, the EDRA Super Petrel...same aircraft, different name:)

[Ridge Runner]

Bonjour, Ken!!!!!

Sorry, it's not the Seastar/Petrel, mate

RR

[evansb]

Super Petrel LS ?

[Ridge Runner]

As far as I know it has nothing to do with a Petrel/Super Petrel!!! :)

[skytrain10]

Tissard Hydroplum II, SMAN Super Petrel?

[Ridge Runner]

Neither of them, mate!

[Ridge Runner]

Having compared images it clearly has some connection!!!! However, there are differences which, as far as I can see, make my image different an distinguishable from a Petrel/Super Petrel. RR

Edit: I'm not sure what to do. The machine I have is not marked as any of te above but clearly it is related. There are various differences but I think it is so close. So, I will declare it to ....... Skytrain10, as he came up with Petrel first. I have it as the Naval Aircraft Experimental NAX-01 of the Thai Navy! I found little reference to it on the net but I did get this picture....

http://www.abpic.co.uk/images/images/1330362M.jpg (javascript:popUp('/popup.php?q=1330362'))

[skytrain10]

Martin, I have to drop offline, so if you are awarding it, give it to Brian:)

[Ridge Runner]

Brian,

As you can see, Ken has passed the ball to you.......

RR

[evansb]

Okay, thanks. Here is the next challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/MAR07.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

SUPERMARINE SWAN

[evansb]

LM is spot on.:ok: A true flying boat hull replete with port holes, hard chine, and an upper deck for the pilot officer(s). Galley slaves below? nah, just tars.. Truly nautical in profile.


http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/23-21.jpg


Your turn.

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you Bri - my bumper seaplane site came to the rescue again.

In and out of class all morning, so will check in between classes.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/dark-1.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Hello David!

A high-wing, or shoulder-wing? WW1 era?

RR

[Lightning Mate]

Good to see somebody around Martin.


A high-wing, or shoulder-wing?

neither

WW1 era?



yes

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry i haven't had much time today but ... a Jerry? European, at least? Designed as a fighter? Anzani engine?

[Lightning Mate]

European, at least? Designed as a fighter?

Yes to both mate.

Not German, but has tangled with a few. ;)

Want another clue?

[Lightning Mate]

Blimey - where on earth is everyone?

Keep going Martin - you seem to be the only one having a go.

[Ridge Runner]

Bonjour David, the Nieuport N 11?

[Lightning Mate]

Morning Martin. :)

No mate.

This was a very well-known British WW1 fighter with a rotary engine. ;)

Should not take long now......

Off line for an hour.

[Lightning Mate]

The photograph is quite famous, taken in the UK from another aeroplane (Sopwith 1.5 Strutter) in 1916.

It portrays Captain Vernon Brown looping the aeroplane in the UK.

Clerget engine.

[skytrain10]

Well, from all the clues it must be a Sopwith Triplane?

[Lightning Mate]

...you...you... you...LURKER!

Sopwith Triplane it is indeed.

Over to you mate. :D

[skytrain10]

...you...you... you...LURKER! Had only been lurking for a few mins. I just saw your clues, tapped it in to Google and bingo! Case of right place right time. Don't think I would have got there without them - a triplane is not exactly what I was expecting:)

Next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/88722115.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Just out of class.

I think RR has logged off in disgust!

Are you sure that yours has not been done before?

[skytrain10]

I think RR has logged off in disgust! I have that effect on people:)

[Lightning Mate]

NB kit switched on.

Wossat 'twixt wheels?

[skytrain10]

Wossat 'twixt wheels? Nothing that I can see:) Just the design of the undercarriage legs. Theres a couple of extra struts that form an inverted V connecting the wheel spats to the underside of the fuselage. In the silhouette these merge in to the undercarriage legs.

[Lightning Mate]

Must go again Ken. :\

[Ridge Runner]

Hiya!!! Ken, yours looks like one of those home grown machines from Scandinavia, maybe Norwegian? RR

[skytrain10]

yours looks like one of those home grown machines from Scandinavia, maybe Norwegian? Good call Martin - Scandinavia, yes, but not Norway.

[Ridge Runner]

Not a ................. Dane??????

[skytrain10]

Dane?????? Not from there....:)

Going out for a short while so will look in when I'm back

[Karlark]

I'll give it a guess... Finnish? Karhumäki Karhu 48B?

[skytrain10]

Karhumäki Karhu 48B? That's the one Karl:ok: Just a few built. OH-VKK is the prototype. It was offered both as a landplane or on floats. Just 2 built, one of which remains in a museum today.
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/f1890c46.jpg

Karlark has control

[Karlark]

Thanks Ken,

Here's a made up quick one:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/35-12.jpg

[skytrain10]

Recognise this but can't think what it's called:ugh:

Unfortunately have to sign off now but will look in later when hopefully I'll have some inspiration:)

[Lightning Mate]

Good afternoon kl.

What is this double protrusion please?

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/karlarkcopy.jpg

[Karlark]

Evening LM.

It's a silhouetting phenomenon. :)

A few stripes of light paint make it look lumpy, but it is actually flat rooted.

[Lightning Mate]

It's a silhouetting phenomenon. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

No such thing mate!

If I think correctly it's French.

[Karlark]

Not French.. It is European, though.

[Lightning Mate]

It's a silhouetting phenomenon. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Does it look like this then:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/karlark.jpg

[Karlark]

Yes. Thanks for the geometry clean up. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

I see you out there Ken - I'm clueless.:uhoh:

[skytrain10]

I'm clueless I thought I had recognised it, but it wasn't what I thought. The wings appear to have a slight forward sweep which made me think of the LFU.205 from Germany. But its not that. Working out in the garden this afternoon so will pay it some more attention later.

[Karlark]

Try a country adjacent to Germany. :) This one would be a continuation of several aircraft posted lately manufactured by the same company.

[Lightning Mate]

French then.....?

[Karlark]

The other way :) (ENE)

[Lightning Mate]

ah so glashopper...

been looking at Polish for ages.

How far from Berlin?

[Karlark]

About 700 km from Berlin.

I believe the manufacturer produces mainly helicopters.

[SincoTC]

Afternoon Karl,

That looks like the PZL I-23 Manager to me ??

[Karlark]

Evening Trevor,

It sure does because it is the PZL-Swidnik i-23 Manager. :D

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/99080301.jpg

SincoTC has the thread :ok:

[SincoTC]

Thanks Karl,

That was a good one :ok:

Here's the next and I'll say from the start that it's not another PZL :)!!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf218A.jpg

[SincoTC]

Morning David :),

I'm busy all day about the house and garden, but will leave my light on and monitor frequently!

Is your Challenge resolved?

Edit: Drat, missed him it seems as his lights just gone out :ugh:

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Ken.

I have been having some very weird computer problems and unable to type other than in upper case. It seems to have resolved itself after reboots to the power 10.

I have declared my helicopter challenge and declared OH.

Now having a look at yours.

[Lightning Mate]

Do I see a Bristol Cherub horizontal twin?

[SincoTC]

Good morning Ken

:confused::confused: It's not just Ken who works in house and garden :p!!

'Tiz a twin, but not a Cherub!

[Lightning Mate]

Anything to do with early low-powered racing?

[SincoTC]

Nope; just a light-aircraft!

[Karlark]

Afternoon TC. Was the engine a Walter Atom used in a Eastern European (Czech) aircraft?

[SincoTC]

Morning Karl,

The engine was Czech, but not a Walter! The airframe was Eastern European too, but not Czech :)

[Lightning Mate]

Good evening TC.:)

Was it Polish by any chance?

[SincoTC]

Evening David :),

No mate, not Polish, further East!

[Lightning Mate]

Must be Russia then.

[SincoTC]

Not Russia, go south!

[Lightning Mate]

Further East than Poland, not Russia and then South, but Europe...........

:uhoh::uhoh::uhoh:

Surely not Turkey..............................:\

[SincoTC]

Not Turkey, it's south of the Ukraine and has a small coast on the Black Sea

[Lightning Mate]

Holy :mad:!!

Romania?

[SincoTC]

Romania it is..............:ok:

[Karlark]

Is it a Manicatide RM-9?

I looked at this one earlier but dismissed it for some reason. :confused:

[SincoTC]

Afternoon Karl,

A well timed return, it is indeed the Manicatide RM-9 :D

Light aircraft RM- 9 was designed by Romanian engineer Radu Manikatide (Radu Manicatide). Radu Manicatide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radu_Manicatide)

The plane was a single seat with a frame made of wood and equipped with a 32 hp Praga motor.

The aircraft was built in 1942 at the IAR factory in Brasov where he worked and it first flew there the same year. Further tests were postponed due to the war and only resumed in 1945.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/Rm-9.jpg

Karlark has control :ok:

[Karlark]

Thanks TC, I chased a couple of geese looking for that one. :ok:

Just back in from the back yard. Too early to garden, but was a good day to grill food outside with a balmy temperature of 65° F here, which might be a record high for today.

Found one in the photobucket;
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/34-8.gif

[SincoTC]

Going to have to turn in soon as it's a very early start tomorrow.

Before I go, is this a French Biplane ? Reconnaissance ?

[Karlark]

Yes, light bomber & reconnaissance biplane. European, not French, though.

'night. I'm out too. Carry on as usual when it is ID'd. :)

[Lightning Mate]

Aero Ab-101

[SincoTC]

Early start, early break,

I'll second LM's post offering the Czech Aero Ab-101

The link below gives a positive ID; therefore as per Karlarks last post I reckon control should go to Lightning Mate

The Virtual Aviation Museum - Aero A 101 (http://www.luftfahrtmuseum.com/htmi/itf/a101.htm)

[Karlark]

Afternoon, seconded :), Aero Ab.101 it is.
Lightning Mate has control.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/34-9-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks KL. :)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/mon-4.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Afternoon, David!!!!!

Just time for a quick peek .......

Yuors looks like its sat outside an old eastern-european office block!!? So, I'm guessing : UAV helo? Former (or current) communist country? Maybe jet-tipped as I can't see any stabilising rotor?

RR

[Lightning Mate]

Good afternoon Martin.

Yes - jet tipped.

Project only - European.

Not a UAV.

[skytrain10]

A quick look in ......is it the Dornier Do.132?

If correct it will have to be Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

That quick look in has scored a hit mate. :ok:

Open House has been requested by skytrain. :\

[Noyade]

Another silhouette....

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/4008/ppruk.jpg (http://img576.imageshack.us/i/ppruk.jpg/)

[Karlark]

Is it Russian?

[skytrain10]

With those graceful lines my initial thought is/was French:)

A Breguet 460 maybe?

Edit to say closing down for the night now, so if correct will have to be Open House.

[Noyade]

That's him Ken. :)

Open House.

Scala Hanníbalis: • El cas del bombarder Breguet 460 (http://scalatunel.********.com.au/2009/02/el-cas-del-bombarder-breguet-460.html)

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8679/img491w.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/img491w.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning/evening all.

This one might be quite taxing, so clues whenever you want them. :)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/waterjob.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Schaef's hydroaeroplane? If correct Open House I am afraid as I will be out this evening.

[Lightning Mate]

Bingo Mel - the floatplane which could not get airborne with floats on, so was put back into it's original configuration with wheels.

Mel has requested Open House, but since I was not around either last night he may be back early this morning to post his own challenge.

[MReyn24050]

Here is an easy one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Silhouettequiz103.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Northrop KD2R Shelduck???? If so, Open House!

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft was much earlier than the Northrop KD2R Shelduck.

[Ridge Runner]

A gunnery target, though?

[Ridge Runner]

A Radioplane machine, Mel?

[evansb]

Bristol Burney ?

[MReyn24050]

Bri has it. :ok: My source calls it the Bristol Burney X.2.
You have control Bri.

[Ridge Runner]

Ah, yes, I see it is, Brian!!!!

i must go... well done!!!

;) RR

[evansb]

Here is an easy one:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH120314A.jpg

[Noyade]

A rabbit?...no, a Hare! :)

What's that old joke?..There are no rabbits on Mars, but there are hares on Uranus.

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/4323/img505n.jpg (http://img836.imageshack.us/i/img505n.jpg/)

[evansb]

Noyade is correct.:ok: (and funny). The version in the silhouette has modified gear legs for torpedo/carrier based ops. Your turn.

[Noyade]

Thanks Bri, an easy one in return then...

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4351/blcks.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/blcks.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Quick stab before lecture........Islander?

[Noyade]

Excellent stabbing mate. :ok:

Islander in the South. Your control.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8814/img443v.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/img443v.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Hope you're still up Graeme - standby.....

[Lightning Mate]

Here you go:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/moonlight.jpg

[Noyade]

A Hun shadow mate?

[Lightning Mate]

Not a Hun mate.

[skytrain10]

Hi David, presume we are looking at a biplane, pusher props mounted between the wings? 1920's or maybe WWI?

[Lightning Mate]

Hello Ken. :)

Bipe - engines between the wings - pushers behind the wings.

Circa 1916 - only got as far as two prototypes.

Would you like the country?

Maybe the engines would help...........

[skytrain10]

Would you like the country? Just looking at this in between work....first thought British, (was thinking DH.3 fits the clues - but wings/tail wrong), but perhaps French?

[Ridge Runner]

Airco DH.10 maybe???

Nah... the DH.3?

[Lightning Mate]

Does Roy Chadwick mean anything to you? ;)

Hello RR - not Airco or the DH3.

[Ridge Runner]

So an Avro?? Ava???

[Lightning Mate]

An Avro it is, but not that one.

Going home in a few minutes - will check in from home.

[Ridge Runner]

B19/27????????

Edit: no, its the Avro 523 Pike! Sorry, but it'll have to be OH, sadly!!!

[skytrain10]

Avro 523 Pike Reckon that's a good call Martin:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

"und vat iss your name?"

"don't tell him Pike"

:D:D

RR has requested Open House.

Ken?

[skytrain10]

Still seems to be Open House, so here's an easy one;

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/ec8e70be.jpg

[Noyade]

Good evening Ken.

The MFI Vipan?

[skytrain10]

The MFI Vipan? Morning Graeme...yes its the Malmo MFI-10 Vipan:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/64fbcae5-1.jpg

Noyade has control.

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken, have to be open house at this stage. But I will get the the textas and GIMP machine out shortly. :ok:

Cheers.

[Noyade]

Fresh from the paint shop Ken...

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9853/img509.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/img509.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Avia BH-26?

If so will have to be Open House as closing down for the night now.

[Noyade]

:ok:

[/URL][URL=http://img442.imageshack.us/i/img510c.jpg/]http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6760/img510c.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/img510s.jpg/)

Open house.

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning/evening. :)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/weirdo-5.jpg

[skytrain10]

Morning David. Looks terribly familiar but cant remember where I've seen it:ugh:

American design?

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Ken.

Some time ago I posted something similar, so I'm wondering if that's what you are thinking of.

It's not American - European.

[Ridge Runner]

Is that Mutley I can see in the conning tower??? :)

[Lightning Mate]

I hope not mate.:eek:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/flag-1.png

[Ridge Runner]

I reckon clues are the order of the day!!!!!

[skytrain10]

I guess we know its French :)

Looks like its kitted out with tractor tyres!

[Lightning Mate]

Apologies guys - I have been teaching.

Standby for clues - methinks a photo.

[Lightning Mate]

Here you go.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/photo-2.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Untitledart1.jpg read it in French.....the word first then the colour

[Ridge Runner]

De Rouge Elytroplan?

[Ridge Runner]

er ... no ......

[Ridge Runner]

but something from Vicomte de Rouge, though?

[Ridge Runner]

I take it all back ....

the De Rouge Elytroplan!

Specific Aircraft Typehttp://www.aviation-images.com/images/spacer.gifDe Rouge Elytroplanhttp://www.aviation-images.com/images/spacer.gifAirport / Locationhttp://www.aviation-images.com/images/spacer.gif Francehttp://www.aviation-images.com/images/spacer.gifDescriptionhttp://www.aviation-images.com/images/spacer.gifComte Charles de Rouge Sisma http://www.aviation-images.com/images/spacer.gifDate shothttp://www.aviation-images.com/images/spacer.gif1936

RR

[skytrain10]

It's also listed as the Giraud Elytroplan - now I know where I saw it. I posted once of its variants as a challenge a while back!

[Lightning Mate]

I take it all back ....

Good job you did mate! :D

Ken, I would also have accepted Giraud.

All yours Martin. :ok:

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks David. I can post one but I'm not sure wheen i can monitor this evening. Therefore despite my glorious triumph :) I will have to offer an OPEN HOUSE so that you boys can keep things moving!! RR

[Lightning Mate]

Oh dear. :uhoh:

I am certainly not going to hog two OHs in a row.

Ken, Ken, Ken ?

[Lightning Mate]

see boyo - Wales innit look you.

Need to light the fire beacons on the hills and convey messages.............

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/beaconcopy.jpg

[skytrain10]

I'm here...sorry only just finished work.

Taking up the OH......an easy one :)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/8278ba0a.jpg

Offline for a while but will check back in soon.

[Lightning Mate]

That smells of Cessna - bad news is it ain't. :uhoh:

[Noyade]

Evening Ken.

Kitplane? USA?

[skytrain10]

Not a Cessna - as you surmised David.

Morning Graeme, not a kitplane, but it is from the US:ok:

[Noyade]

Looks familiar mate. Does Skylark or Wren have any involvement?

Say.....late 60's...?

Time for a another coffee.

PS...your island is getting smaller?...:(

The Press Association: Stretch of landmark cliff falls off (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hglKr2EL8mf1PyWU_a_eFhGuAFkw?docId=N109576133171851253 8A)

[skytrain10]

Looks familiar mate. Does Skylark or Wren have any involvement? It must be in the back of your mind mate....you are close:ok:

Say.....late 60's...? Yes, first flow late 60's but adapted from an older design.

PS...your island is getting smaller? Missed that news item, but yes, we get a lot of that....more on the east coast rather than the white cliffs - check out Hunstanton in East Anglia.

[Noyade]

you are closehttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

I don't think so mate. The coffee has ignited a few more brain cells and I think the aircraft I'm thinking of, I think, (:\) is an experimental STOL conversion of something with various winglets everywhere. But it was sleek looking and not unlike a Cessna....

[skytrain10]

Ah...this wouldn't fall into the experimental category, and to the best of my knowledge was not subject to any mods such as winglets/STOL conversion etc.

Try another cuppa.....:ok:

[Noyade]

I don't think so mate. I'll let you get some sleep.

Besides, Julie is watching the Country Music channel and the music is blaring...I have to get outta the house...

This is in the background...

Toby Keith - Red Solo Cup (Unedited Version) - YouTube

Goodnight mate...:ok: