Heikkis' Silhouette Challenge

[Karlark]

Hello,

Just passing through, I thought I'd give it a try; is it a Mitsubishi KI.2 Type 93?

[RegDep]

Or, if not that, why not Junkers S 36/K 37?

[Spit161]

License built Junker - Ju86?

[Noyade]

Mitsubishi KI.2

Well done Karlark! :ok: Welcome to the forum! Your control....

[Karlark]

Thank you.
Open house.

[evansb]

Wow, a guy just passing through declares 'open house'. Will wonders never cease..?
Anywho, here is the next silhouette challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/HAPPY_YOM_KIPPUR.jpg

[Karlark]

Sorry, I have lurked here a little bit, so, I am familiar with this aircraft identification thread. I am not sure how to make a good sillhouette picture to ID, though. :)

Another very difficult one I see above. It appears to be a light aerobatic or sport aircraft, like a Sukhoi 29, but not.

Edit: the wings look very long.

[Noyade]

I am not sure how to make a good sillhouette picture to IDScan and paint, mate. The method of champions. :ok:

Having said that, no idea what Bri's is, but the style looks very familiar.....:)

American?

[RegDep]

Karlark, you are making history here: first stab wins, and your first one is the 3001st if this segment of the thread.

Welcome, and please stay! Silhouetting is easy, and it is more important that we have many who do it, not that they are perfect masterpieces (although we can appreciate good ones when we see them :cool:).

Once again, stay with us and have fun. There are people who may do silhouetting for you to let you warm up your artistic engines and teach you how to make them.

Just whistle (you know how to whistle?)

Reg

[evansb]

It is American. Powered by an engine from a little-known manufacturer with historical connections.

[skytrain10]

Bri, see you are still online....would this a homebuild aerobatic machine, or are we looking at a one off? Midwing I guess? With that high undercarriage it reminds me of a RC aircraft:)

[skytrain10]

Morning Brian...looks like the Thalman T-3B (in its conventional as opposed to T-tail form).

http://aerofiles.com/thalman-t3b.jpg

And welcome to the thread Karlark. Hope you can stick around:ok:

[evansb]

skytrain is spot on:ok: The one-off Thalman T-3B. Your control.

[skytrain10]

Thank you evansb.

Here's the next one:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/89f9a05b.jpg

[RegDep]

Is the wing configuration somehow unusual?

Like negative sweep?

[skytrain10]

Is the wing configuration somehow unusual? Evening Reg....no, nothing unusual. Flaps are down if that helps put things in perspective?

Edit to say, no, not negative sweep.

[evansb]

Looks similar to the Grob G.120..

[skytrain10]

Looks similar to the Grob G.120..
Not a Grob

[evansb]

Tecnam P2002JR ?

[skytrain10]

Tecnam P2002JR
Not that either Bri.

[skytrain10]

Good morning. All very quiet so a clue to start the day.
This is a standard production aircraft whose ancestry can be traced back to a very well known light aircraft.

[Ridge Runner]

RElated to the Victa machines. Ken?

[skytrain10]

RElated to the Victa machines. Ken?
Afternoon Martin - no relation to Victa....something a lot more well known!

[Spit161]

Looks a bit Tucano like.. is it a training aircraft?

[skytrain10]

Looks a bit Tucano like.. is it a training aircraft?
Hi Jake. No connection with the Tucano, but you are right, it is a training aircraft :ok:

[Karlark]

Could it be a Fuji T-5? Similar to a Beech.

[skytrain10]

Could it be a Fuji T-5? Similar to a Beech. Hi Karl...not could...it is the Fuji T-5. Well done:ok:. Adapted from the KM-2 which was based on the Beech T-34, which design of course originated from the Beech 35 Bonanza. According to Wiki, a total of 40 were built and are in service with the JMSDF.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/132d6e4a.jpg

Karlark has control

[Karlark]

Ok, hopefully this is not a repeat;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/19-3.jpg

I know, a little rough around the edges. :)

[skytrain10]

SNCAC/Nord NC.853?

[Karlark]

Skytrain has control. :ok:

I had a feeling it would not last long.

[skytrain10]

I had a feeling it would not last long. Don't worry, I think my first post went quickly too! Saw quite a few NC.853's last year when I was in France. Nice, if somewhat quirky, looking aircraft.

And now for something a little different:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/c96eb609.jpg

[RegDep]

Tilt-rotor with engine(s) in the fuselage?

[skytrain10]

Tilt-rotor with engine(s) in the fuselage? Tilt-rotor yes, and single engine in fuselage.

[RegDep]

It seems to be in a museum. Did it ever fly?

Aaa. Fogle V333 Skycat, 1982, never flew.

[skytrain10]

It seems to be in a museum. Did it ever fly?
It was in a museum although I am not sure it is still there. It never flew.

[RegDep]

In Carolinas Aviation Museum, yes, was at least 2006.

[skytrain10]

That's it Reg, the Foggle V333 Skycat:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/75b556f0.jpg

Picture taken at the Carolinas Aviation Museum, although its not showing in their current list of exhibits. One website claimed it was being restored. Perhaps we may see it fly after nearly 30 years!

Your control RegDep

[RegDep]

Thanks Skytrain. A really nice challenge. I will not be able to monitor for long, so Open House, I'll be back in the morning.

[skytrain10]

Been open house too long!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/64490e67.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

It looks very workman-like, Ken. A Ruskie???

[RegDep]

Ducted fan or Townsend ring?

[skytrain10]

It looks very workman-like, Ken. A Ruskie???
Not Russian Martin.

Ducted fan or Townsend ring?
Uhh...Reg, on the basis I had never even heard of a Townsend ring until just now, I would say its ducted!

[RegDep]

Abrams Explorer - survey/photo aircraft (http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/abrams_explorer.php)

That’s not a ducted fan by the way, its a engine cowling called a Townsend ring. It was developed by NACA to reduce cooling drag around a radial engine.

Not that I would say this is your challenge, this is where I stumbled into it…..

[skytrain10]

Ok, I see what you mean Reg. In the case of the challenge aircraft, it's described as a ducted fan.

[RegDep]

Stock questions:

- Was/is it manned?

- Has it flown?

[skytrain10]

Reg

Was/is it manned? It was manned.

Has it flown? Yes

[skytrain10]

First clue...a European design from the 1970's.

[SincoTC]

I guess it'll probably be good morning Ken now :)

First chance of a look-in for a couple of days.

Im pretty certain that it's the Whittaker MW2B Excalibur, built at Bodmin Airport, Cornwall in 1975 and flown only once!

Open House please if correct, still on the dog-watch!!

[skytrain10]

Morning Trevor.

That was the year I saw it at Bodmin! Visited the airfield on a very warm summer's evening and it was parked outside the main hangar! Well done, it is of course the Whittaker MW-2B Excalibur:ok:. Here it is at the PFA Rally in Sywell in 1976.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/cceb0dd6.jpg

Now (or it least it was) on display at the Trago Mills centre in Devon:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/e4a63948.jpg

Hope the dog sitting will come to an end soon!

SincoTC has declared Open House

[RegDep]

Too much wind is a house if it is left open for too long…

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/image001-1-3.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Home built, Reg??? European??

[RegDep]

Homebuilt, yes.
European, no.

[skytrain10]

Reg, is it the Barnard M-19 Flying Squirrel?

[RegDep]

Yes, Barnard M-19 Flying Squirrel, a U.S. homebuilt

Oscar Zuniga's M-19 Info Page (http://www.flysquirrel.net/m_19info.html)

Over to you :ok:

[skytrain10]

Thanks Reg. ,Maintaining the light aircraft theme:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/016bd720.jpg

[Noyade]

Hi Ken. Is this baby a Bolkow Bo.209 Monsun?

[skytrain10]

Hi Graeme, no not a Monsun.

Like the Monsun, it is a standard production aircraft, not a homebuild and not a one-off. European design, but manufactured elsewhere.

[trucky04]

Is this perhaps a Czech design? Has a Zlin like Tail) Something quite SOCATA-ish about this too?! (yes i know Socata is French)

[skytrain10]

Hi trucky
Not Czech or French design, but you are not far away with the latter:ok:

[skytrain10]

Clue. Over 100 produced, first flown in the 1980's. Primarily a military trainer although there are some civil examples.

[Spit161]

I'm going to bite the bullet, and say Grob G115E..

I doubt it's correct, but OH if it is.

[skytrain10]

Hi Jake....not the Grob and not German. But it was designed in a neighbouring country.

[Noyade]

Morning Ken.
Swiss?
The Datwyler MD-3...?

[skytrain10]

The Datwyler MD-3...? Nearly there Graeme but good enough:ok: It is actually the production version of the Datwyler MD-3, which is the SME MD-3 Aerotiga from Malaysia. Outwardly identical to the Datwyler.

Here's one of the 60 aircraft operated by the RMAF.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/b996cc32.jpg

Noyade has control.

[Noyade]

Thanks Ken, you're being generous mate, but unfortunately I'm silhouetteless....so Open House...for the moment.

[skytrain10]

you're being generous mate Nice of you to say so mate, but I take the view as there is no real difference then how would you know it was the SME built aircraft?

I'm silhouetteless. time to get the black felt tip out :)

[Noyade]

time to get the black felt tip out http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Bloody kids keep nicking them. Looking now.

[Noyade]

Found one...

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6342/img076kp.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/img076kp.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

First thought...Soko G-2 Galeb?

[Noyade]

Good thought. :ok: Back to you....:)

[skytrain10]

I did have a 2nd thought, but it would have been wrong! Stand-by.

[skytrain10]

Talking of my 2nd thought...this was a variation on it!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/669bd53a.jpg

[Noyade]

Another Swiss!? :)

[Ridge Runner]

FIAT mate, RR

Edit: G80

[skytrain10]

Another Swiss!? Not Swiss Graeme.

Morning Martin
Edit: G80 Nearly...go up a bit...the G.80 didn't have wing tanks.

[Noyade]

82?........

[Ridge Runner]

the G84????????????????

[skytrain10]

82?........ Fiat G.82 it is:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d349d323.jpg

Not sure who this should go to...Graeme got it, but Martin was there first with Fiat and its predecessor, the G.80. What do you think? Graeme, your shout on this.

[Noyade]

Martin's!!!!

I just followed his lead. (g'day martin). I initially thought the Swiss P-16.....

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme.

Ridge Runner has control

[Ridge Runner]

Very generous, Graeme!!! Thanks mate.

Here goes ....

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune131011.jpg

[skytrain10]

Is that all glass surrounding the silhouetted image? Japanese?

[Noyade]

French?
I don't no why I'm typing it, but maybe Yugoslavian?

[Ridge Runner]

Hi all!

Jap - no
French - no
Yugo - no
glass nose - yes

:)

[Noyade]

Thanks mate. I was thinking, I think, of the SIM-XIV-H....

European then?

[Ridge Runner]

Yes, European, Graeme

[Noyade]

WW2 mate?..........

[Noyade]

:)

VARGA XG/XH

[Ridge Runner]

ah ha.... you have it mate!!!! YOU HAVE CONTROL

[Noyade]

Thanks Martin! Make it open house. Enjoy your day! :ok:

[skytrain10]

Nice challenge Martin....

Something faster:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/be3a7414.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Super Galeb

Edit: Nice challenge Martin.... Thanks, Ken... I got a new set of mags off ebay!

M

[skytrain10]

Super Galeb
Yep, that's the one, the Soko G-4 Super Galeb:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/53a1d253.jpg

New Mags eh.....guess I had better be prepared!

Ridge Runner has control

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks mate. Here's another.....

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune131011A-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

European, WWII era fighter?

[Ridge Runner]

Yes mate :)

[skytrain10]

Mmm, a French design maybe?

[Ridge Runner]

Not a .......... croak ............ Frenchie, Ken!

[skytrain10]

Good...too many to go through!

Presume I don't need to look at Russia....I tend to consider that outside of Europe :)

[Ridge Runner]

Not Russian, Ken. A helping hand: this machine was from the hotter parts of Europe. The image shows a modified aicraft with a different engine from the standard. RR

[skytrain10]

Ah ok, got to break for a meeting now. I'll be back!

[RegDep]

How about Macchi MC.200 Saetta. . . .

[Ridge Runner]

Hello Reg. Not the Macchi. RR

[RegDep]

Thought so RR. Fulfilled the engine clue, however.

Was the warm country warm enough?

[Ridge Runner]

oh yes... very hot!! ;)

[Spit161]

FW190?

cheers,
Jake.

[Ridge Runner]

Not very hot in Germany, Jake! :(

[RegDep]

Reggiane Re.2001

[Ridge Runner]

Nope, Reg(gianne)!

[RegDep]

CAPRONI VIZZOLA F.5

[Ridge Runner]

As I'm heading home very soon....... you are very very close, Reg!

[Ridge Runner]

I'm closing down in a minute or two, so I'm going to give this one to Reg. It is the Caproni Vizzola F.6Z (with 24-cyl Zeta engine)

Reg has CONTROL

[RegDep]

Thanks RR!

My next

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/Bildschirmfoto2011-10-13um190923.jpg

[skytrain10]

Back...

Reg, is yours the Macchi MC.202?

[RegDep]

Skytrain, yes, it is Macchi MC.202 Foglore

How did you get it so fast?

Over to you :ok:

[skytrain10]

How did you get it so fast? Its the Italian theme...had wondered whether RR's challenge was a Macchi (as I see you did too):)

Stand-by for the next one

[skytrain10]

And here's the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/6e44597a.jpg

[evansb]

Is it the VFW-614 ?

[skytrain10]

Good afternoon Bri
Is it the VFW-614 ? Yes it is:ok:
Tried to find a photo that hid the engines from view!. Used to see them regularly at Gatwick airport in the late 70's and early 80's. I believe just the one left flying now.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/7a5bd0ea-1.jpg

Your control evansb

[evansb]

Thanks. The VFW-614 was a bit ahead of its time. That should be a good thing, but it seems it seldom is. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/TOO_RIGHT_MITE.png

[Ridge Runner]

A British tourer/sports machine from pre-WW2?

[skytrain10]

Morning. I believe its the Cairns Model A or the AG-4?

Edit to say...Cairns Model A. Found the 3-view!

[Noyade]

Morning.

Just posting to confirm Trevor's coffee-break Cairns find.

Oh, it was you Ken?! :)
I will now stop looking at Russian AIR designs.

[skytrain10]

Evening Graeme....it's not just Trevor that has coffee breaks:)

[evansb]

skytrain is correct. The Cairns. Your control.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Brian. Here's the next one:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d187f41f.jpg

[Karlark]

Yakovlev / Aermacchi Yak-130?

[skytrain10]

Hi Karl...yeah had a feeling that would go quickly.

Yes it is the Yak-130 advanced trainer:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/1360258b.jpg

Karlark has control

[Karlark]

Thanks Ken. This one is about as close as I got searching for that Cairns...

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/051116-F-1234P-028.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

F-1234P....

[Karlark]

Not one of those.... I think...:confused:

Edit: Oh, I see, I forgot to remove the picture properties. :ugh: Can I post a new one?

[Lightning Mate]

Oh all right.

Atlantic-Fokker XA-7

I'm just taking the p### mate. ;)

Throw another one up. :ok:

[Karlark]

Thanks Lightning, :)

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/22-5.jpg

[RegDep]

Looks like S.N.C.A.S.O. SO-95 'Corse' II, but it was a tail-dragger :confused:

S.N.C.A.S.O. SO-94 R

Or SO.93

But the tail fin top is different…...

[skytrain10]

Seen this somewhere before...just cannot think where :ugh:.

[RegDep]

Haven't we all….. :(

[Ridge Runner]

A Jerry? A Siebel????

[Karlark]

It is European but not French or German. It was a one-off prototype that saw service as a staff transport.

[Ridge Runner]

ah ha... Italian then?

[Karlark]

Maybe... ;)

[Ridge Runner]

OK, it is or its not!

[RegDep]

Breda-Pittoni BP.471

[skytrain10]

Breda-Pittoni BP.471
I was just about to say that....!

[Karlark]

:ok: Over to you RegDep. That one was a little obscure.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/bp471_cop.jpg

[skytrain10]

Nice challenge Karl:ok:

[RegDep]

Thank you Karlark!

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/DSC09363copy-1.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Seen this somewhere before...just cannot think where :ugh:.


I thought so, too! Check back to April last year, mate!

[RegDep]

Was not a silhouette then…..

[Ridge Runner]

Starship, Reg????

http://wildlark.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/Starship~0.jpg

Edit: Open House if so as I have to go!!! :(

[RegDep]

Not much of staying power….. (meaning the challenge, not you RR :))

Beechcraft 2000 Starship :ok:

RR has requested Open House.

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks Reg. Have a great evening everyone! :) RR

[skytrain10]

Hitting the road very soon, but to keep things moving:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/fd79fae6.jpg

This is NOT a homebuld.

Usual rules apply. If anyone gets it and a 2nd player agrees then move on to the next challenge. I'll look in again in a few hours.

[Karlark]

Apologies, I just now found the list :oh:. It will be tough to come up with new ones.

[RegDep]

It will be tough to come up with new ones

No. We have till some 40,000 to go….. Be brave, little soul!

[skytrain10]

A quick break on my journey.
Clue: from a well known major aircraft manufacturer.

[hesham]

Hi,

Piel

[Karlark]

Or maybe an Aerotec A-132?

[evansb]

Beechcraft 77 Skipper prototype ?

[skytrain10]

Sincere apologies guys, have had internet down for most of the day. Problems with the phone lines.

Anyway whilst I have a log on opportunity...not Piel, Aerotec or Beech. Closest is Beech as it is an American design, and as previously advised, its from a large well known aircraft manufacture.

The aircraft concerned is from the 1960's, but never went into production.

[evansb]

Piper PA-29 Papoose ?

[skytrain10]

Piper PA-29 PapooseThat's the one Bri, the PA-29 Papoose:ok:. Just the one built in 1962.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/399daa86.jpg

evansb has control

[evansb]

Thanks. Here is the next one:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/5557155246_13114d9b99_b1.jpg

[RegDep]

I'll be darned…..

[Noyade]

Morning gents!

I like your style Bri! :)

[Noyade]

Lock me in for the B-52 D...

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4052/img085jl.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/img085jl.jpg/)

[Karlark]

I'm with Noyade. Boeing B-52.

[evansb]

I was looking for the specific version. On that note, Noyade is spot on:ok:
Your control.

[Noyade]

Thanks Brian. Easy one in return then...

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8923/img086q.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/img086q.jpg/)

[Karlark]

Leaning more toward an F-14 Tomcat.

[Noyade]

It is the Tomcat Karlark. Your control. :ok:

[Karlark]

Thanks Noyade ... It's late here, so OH if this goes quick;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/24-3.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day Karlark. I think we may have had this before? I have it as the Rhein-Flugzeugbau RW3-A3 "Multoplane"...?

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6647/img089c.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/img089c.jpg/)

[Noyade]

I think we may have had this before?Then again, maybe not.

oud Zestienhoven.nl - Rhein Flugzeugbau Multoplan (http://oud16hoven.nl/page36.php)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7638/juli20110002.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/juli20110002.jpg/)

[Karlark]

:ok: Yes that the one!

Looking at the "What Silhouette" Sticky list, I see the RFV-1 & the RFB-X114, but not the RW3?

[Karlark]

Graeme has control. :O May I call you Graeme?

[Noyade]

You're right mate, my mistake. Sleep well! :ok:

Open House.
May I call you Graeme?

I've been called worse. Cheers. :ok:

[skytrain10]

Been Open House too long, so here's an easy one to get things moving

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/6aeb5183.jpg

[evansb]

Speaking of too long, how about the Mitsubishi MU-2 Marquise ?

[skytrain10]

how about the Mitsubishi MU-2 Marquise That's the one Bri, it is indeed the Mu-2 Marquise:ok:. Once a common sight in the UK, now only a few remaining throughout Europe - always one of my favourites.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/5f11791a.jpg

evansb has control

[evansb]

Thanks. Here is another one:

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/82/willy089.jpg

[skytrain10]

Northrop T-38A Talon?

[evansb]

skytrain is correct:ok: Your turn.

[skytrain10]

Thanks evansb....and the next:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d904c1c5.jpg

[Spit161]

Jaguar T2 (The ETPS one)?

cheers,
Jake.

[skytrain10]

Not a Jaguar Jake.

[Lightning Mate]

Good evening Ken. :)

With 1850 hours on type, I should be able to identify a Jaguar.

Maybe also its' famous lookalike, the Mitsubishi F-1.

[skytrain10]

the Mitsubishi F-1. That's the one LM, the Mitsubishi F-1:ok:. 1850 hrs on Jags - I can beat that.....I have over 2,400 hrs on Subaru!!:)

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/4dd835e6.jpg

Lightning Mate has control

[Lightning Mate]

1850 hrs on Jags - I can beat that.....I have over 2,400 hrs on Subaru!!http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

But how many take-offs and landings do you have on it?.....:E

Open House

[Noyade]

Couldn't find this on Mel's list...

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2978/img093hp.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/i/img093hp.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Graeme! DC-2??????

[RegDep]

Just gonna say…...

[Noyade]

G'day Martin, Reg and Ken!

Not the DC-2 mate. Same country, period and purpose, but a different manufacturer.

[RegDep]

Cessna T-50 / C-78

Too skinny for Curtiss-Wright CW-20 / C-46 Commando?

[Ridge Runner]

Boeing 247

[skytrain10]

How about the Boeing 247?

Ah, ignore that, Martin was there first.

[Noyade]

Boeing 247

The "D" version.

:ok:

Your control Martin!

[Noyade]

Martin, ya still there mate?

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry - busy at work.. It'll have to be OH!!!

[skytrain10]

As it's OH..single prop at the front didn't come out on the silhouette!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/bf55c6c7.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Ken!! The obvious one is the MS Rallye but I guess it isn't? RR

[Lightning Mate]

Is that the same as the Socata Rallye ?

[skytrain10]

Hi Martin...sometimes its worth the risk of going with the obvious....I was hoping everyone would think it was TOO obvious, but yes, its the MS880B Rallye:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/9f269a68.jpg

RR has control

Edit to say, LM, just seen your post...this particular one is the MS Rallye but would have accepted SOCATA....but RR was there first.

[Ridge Runner]

it certainly is

[Ridge Runner]

Thanks Ken. I'm afraid its an OH from me again :(

[Karlark]

I just happen to have one ready to go;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/25-2.jpg

[skytrain10]

Good morning Karl....unusual looking...twin engine?

[Karlark]

Good morning Ken. Yes, twin radials.

[Ridge Runner]

It looks like it from the land of snails and Sauternes!! ?? RR

[skytrain10]

Thanks Karl...the tail looks like it came off a C-119!

[Ridge Runner]

was it built and did it fly, Karl?

[Karlark]

Not French, not from that side of the pond.... it has a nose mounted gun turret.

Edit: RR, one was built and flew.

[Karlark]

And to be not so cryptic with the clue, US Navy prototype!

[skytrain10]

Hall Aluminium XPTBH-2?

[RegDep]

Hall Aluminium XPTBH-2

It it is, it is a repeat……

[skytrain10]

Not on the list Reg, or was it a recent one?

[RegDep]

Not very recent

Hall Aluminium Aircraft Corporation XP2H-1 193, page 232, post 4622, 26/11/2009

Aaaa, that is not the same. My apologies :uhoh:.

[skytrain10]

That's on the list, but it was a 4 engine biplane! This current challenge is 2 engine and high wing!

[Karlark]

There were a couple of Halls on the list, but I did not see this particular one.

:ok: Skytrain has control!

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/Hall_XPTBH-2_on_water.png

[RegDep]

Yes. A pusher-puller, was the 2009 one :ugh:.

[skytrain10]

Nice challenge Karl...:ok:

Next one:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/bcdf42be.jpg

[Karlark]

I see that I must be on secret double "repeat" probation... I must step carefully. :O

[Karlark]

FJ-4 Fury?

[skytrain10]

Not the Fury Karl

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Ken, Yours is a Ruskie but i can't remember what! :(

Edit: Karl, by the way, the Hall was a nice one!!!!!

[Lightning Mate]

Looks a bit like the Yak 30.

[Karlark]

Maybe the Mig 17

Edit: Nope.

[skytrain10]

Looks a bit like the Yak 30. Good call LM...it is the Yak-30 (1st version) :ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/c80ba419.jpg
LM has control

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you mate - just keeping my hand in.

Open House.

[Ridge Runner]

OK, here goes...http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune171011A.jpg

[RegDep]

Am I nom completely off track, but at least this we have had before (or have we? :ooh:).

[Ridge Runner]

I stand corrected!!!!! :O Yes, Reg, the CAMCO V-liner!!!

OPEN HOUSE again!!!

RR

[RegDep]

Do a test, for your interest:

Giggle "CAMCO V-liner flying" and look at the images. There will be down the line a silhouette by Noyade (Kjeller FF6) and next by Mechta (of Airspeed Tern). Click either of them, and they are the silhouettes next and the following of CAMCO, the closest image to the ID of the CAMCO. Big Brother IS watching us.

[skytrain10]

To keep things moving along....

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/d7c84458.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Lyco engine, Ken???

[skytrain10]

Yep, a Lycoming:ok:

[skytrain10]

To move things along, it goes under 2 different names that I've found and was a one-off conversion from a mass produced aircraft.

[skytrain10]

Still no progress....so another clue...I stumbled across this one whilst looking for a recent challenge from evansb that turned out to be the Thalman T-3B.

[RegDep]

You don't mean Ast Special Shoestring aka Mercury Air, do you? The mighty fairings would match but not the tail :ooh:.

[skytrain10]

You don't mean Ast Special Shoestring aka Mercury Air, do you? No, I don't mean that :) It is American though.
Bear in mind what I said, this is a conversion from a mass produced (and very well known) aircraft.

[Ridge Runner]

any link to Piper, Ken?

[RegDep]

Did "they" modify the tail fin?

[Noyade]

a mass produced aircraft.

Ryan?.............

[skytrain10]

any link to Piper, Ken? Martin is on the right tracks. Yes, believe it or not, this was converted from a Piper Cub!

Did "they" modify the tail fin? Yes, heavily modified! The wings were clipped as well.

[Noyade]

LIPNUR Belalang?

Edit. No, sorry, stab with a blunt knife.

[RegDep]

I thought you were heading to the 'Prunerisms' thread in JB Graeme.

[Noyade]

Yeah. I googled "Low-wing Piper Cub conversion" and copied the first thing that appeared. :)

this was converted from a Piper Cub!

Now, why would they want to do that?

[RegDep]

The only thing "they" could afford?

[skytrain10]

"Low-wing Piper Cub conversion" Not low wing Graeme - try mid-wing. It was designed as an aerobatic aircraft.

[Noyade]

"They" should just build a Spacewalker.

Rotec Rotec Radial Powered Spacewalker (http://www.rotecengines.com/Projects/MartinHone.html)

Nuther clue please Ken! :)

[Noyade]

Nelson N-4.....?