NEWCASTLE - 8

[Jamesair]

JET 2 All routes for next summer so far have an unchanged frequency except for DLM which reduces to 2 from 3 this summer.

[Hull City AFC]

AM Palma is one.

[GrahamK]

Other options could be Kefalonia or Faro?

[Hull City AFC]

As things stand, all flights that are operated on Thursdays this year (2014) apart from Palma are due to operate on Thursdays next Summer too. It could be that a flight is W legged from another airport.

[HH6702]

Kefalonia and faro are still shown on thursdays

Thursdays is shown as
Malaga
Lanzarote
Faro
Dubrovnik
Kefalonia
Dalaman
Bodrum
Agadir

However they don't show times are airline just days of operation


I'm going to guess that TCX will add Hurghada for 2015

[Hull City AFC]

Thursdays is shown as
Malaga
Lanzarote
Faro
Dubrovnik
Kefalonia
Dalaman
Bodrum
Agadir

Remember, Thomson buy seats on the Jet2.com Malaga this Summer.

[EK77WNCL]

Very nice to see Morocco finally, I always thought LS might give Marrakech a go and let NCL have a look in but Agadir will do nicely.

Very sad/angry/disappointed/heartbroken that LS will be removing the 757 from Newcastle, I was looking forward to us getting the 738's but now I don't give a s***, not at the expense of the 757, I really can't see the logic.

Have TOM/TCX confirmed theirs? Any chance of another aircraft because there has been a massive drop in pax numbers, 235-189 with TOM, 235-210(ish) with TCX and now 235-189 with Jet2 and the only increase being 1 733 and 1 738. I'm pretty confident that the 757 will come back for 2016, I just can't see NCL an airport without them yet.

Maybe TCX will base a Condor 753 for 2015 to combat the haemorrhage of seats recently. ;)

[HH6702]

Thomson increases

SSH. X3 mon,tue and fridays

Others look the same just a couple of day changes

[FRatSTN]

Do you know of any changes for Stansted and East Midlands?

[Hull City AFC]

FRatSTN check your dms!

[FRatSTN]

Thank you :ok:

[Charlie98]

EK -Jet2 have turned their back on Newcastle for Manchester and Leeds, hence why the 752 is going, we will not be getting 1 733 and 1 738, from my understanding it is 1x733 ans 2x738. I for one will not be touching Jet2 after the 752 leaves Newcastle unless its necessary as Thomson and maybe Thomas Cook with the new A321s will likely offer a better package than Jet2.

Gloomy times for the charter market at Newcastle, but once they leave they will likely not be coming back, and as for the Condor 753 we could only dream of that. :rolleyes:

[Skipness One Echo]

Very sad/angry/disappointed/heartbroken that LS will be removing the 757 from Newcastle
Some of them are over twenty six years old, which even in Jet2 terms is knocking on a bit. The B738 is perfectly adequate for 95% of the missions that the B757 flew, that's why Boeing has sold 4,500 NGs alone and the B757 line closed at just over 1,000 of all models. The Thomson B757s are also being replaced by new B738s as well.

[EK77WNCL]

Yeah, with regards to the 753 though, they could be onto a winner with it if they tried, just put it on all the trunk routes, 2 A321, 1 753 instead of A320 and swap the routes around a bit.

Edit: Regardng 737NG vs 757, its all relative, when you say of all models, there were only 2, ans the second one came along quite late, the 737 had 4 (Technically 6) which went from low end 120 seats to high end 200 seats, the 757 was all high end 200+ seats for the most part. Then there's the fact that many NG orders will have been to replace classics and that the 757 was more expensive. But still I see what you mean, 3500 more is a lot more planes. I think the 757 could have made 2000 if they'd kept it on until now, there's a lot of them needing replacing (effectively)

[Skipness One Echo]

Not really as they closed the line as everyone who wanted a new one already had one. Also B757-300s didn't exactly sell well either, it's a pretty niche aeroplane. The bottom line is the B737 proved to be more mission adaptive and longer lived, spanning three generational ranges to the B757s one. Now that's not a criticism, I have happy memories of flying on many BA shuttle services, and of course the high end missions are beyond the B737. However it's nowhere near big enough gap in the market for a bespoke replacement and the B757 design is 33 years old now. 15 is way too young to be mourning the passing of aircraft, try realising that you saw Victorville bound BA 763s when they were brand new.

#gettingold

[LiamNCL]

I have flew on TCX 757s for years down to the fact NCL was littered with 757s its not that NCL dont have the PAX but more to the fact the no UK base eventually will have a 757 in the not to distant future.

Im looking forward to flying on TCX new Sharklet A321s this year

[GrahamK]

Smaller aircraft = Better Yields for the airline and more chance of new destinations being announced. Airlines do have to try and make money at the end of the day.

Charlie98, if LS were turning their back on NCL, surely they would be pulling out completely? Considering they're actually adding an a/c to the base would suggest they're very much committed to NCL.

Besides, the LS 738s are quite comfortable anyway :ok:

[HH6702]

Well said grahamk

Jet2 replacing 2 aircraft with 3 aircraft is better.
Yes the 757 is a nice aircraft but they are getting old and they will be replaced by 738 if we like it our not!!

Smaller aircraft and more flights is better for ncl and the airlines.

I think we need to be more worried about EASYJET at ncl rather than jet2.
FNC and FUE start earlier next year with jet2 so that show they are very happy with things at ncl


Jet2 757's
We will be seeing these again at NCL they won't be gone completly.
NEW YRK charters will carry on in the winter.
Also rumours on the jet2 tread of a much bigger annoucment later on in the year regarding these 757's. My guess is long haul or even that long awaited link we are all looking for!

Anything on TCX yet?

[SJL26779]

OHY Dalaman on a Thursday with Thomson
OHY Antalya moves to a Friday with Thomson
Air Europa are doing Friday Palma rotation for Thomson.

[Boris1]

Is this a NCL forum, or a 737 vs 757 Forum?

[GrahamK]

Boris, we could be talking about caravans? :E

[Travel Agent]

Just back from holiday early this morning, but the last thing I heard was the TCX will not be on sale until 1st May. Likewise with Balkan Holidays (BH Air).

[HH6702]

Yes travel agent your correct TCX are holding back until next week 1st may


OK heres the Thomson update

Thursday Dalaman is now to be operated by ONUR AIR
Friday morning Palma is now to be operated by AIR EUORPA!!

everything else is TOM and we are still at 3 based 737's.

Busy trying to put a mini timetable together ha ha

[GrahamK]

Hello chaps, when was the full length taxiway to Runway 25 completed?

Thanks

[HH6702]

Was it not early 90's 1990-1993??

[DanAir89]

A bit earlier I think, during summer 1989.

[anthbower1234]

Any ideas?

[NCL-TRC]

Thomas Cook should have their full complement of aircraft for the summer (that's two 321s and the leased 320) by Thursday.

[monarchnew]

The leased A320 is due into Newcastle at 15.35 tomorrow (30.04.14)

The first A321 is due in from Manchester at 22.05 tomorrow (30.04.14)
The second A321 is due in from Manchester at 02.25 on the 1st May.

[anthbower1234]

Many thanks all

[LiamNCL]

Guessing G-TCDD & G-TCDE will be the A321s from MAN

[Travel Agent]

Thomas Cook showing a Tuesday flight to Hurghada for S15

[LiamNCL]

TCX Hurghada starts from this winter

[GrahamK]

The Review for 2013 is now available on the Airport website. Turnover increased to £56.7m whilst profits grew to £20.9m.

[JonnyH]

Where's the TCX lease aircraft that is arriving today coming from? Airline, airport etc.

Cheers.

[yeo valley]

the a320 is down as leased from smart lynx. reg no should be y llck. hope that helps.

[Grahamy]

www.flickr.com/photos/lifelinerone/9573864687/

[Travel Agent]

Cooks also adding Santorini for S15

[LiamNCL]

G-TCDE is the first A321 due in tonight from MAN at around 22:00 for anyone interested

[HH6702]

Travel agent do you have the times and day of the santiorni flights as the brochue doesn't show these flights

Also looks like NBE is going 5x weekly

[GrahamK]

Jet2 having some 733 problems? Jettime 733 OY-JTC has just positioned in from CPH.

[Travel Agent]

It says Saturdays for JTR but nothing showing on system as yet. Here is part of the email that they sent:

Thomas Cook Airlines are continuing to expand and improve their services offering:

New flights

© Newcastle – Santorini Saturdays and Hurghada – Tuesdays – Thomas Cook will be the only airline flying to both Red Sea resorts in Egypt

© Direct flights Glasgow - Las Vegas - Mondays

© Stansted to Orlando, Cancun and Las Vegas in July and August

© Cardiff to Antalya

© Manchester – New York and Miami from May 2015

© Glasgow - Las Vegas – Mondays 04 May, operating at 1000 from Glasgow, all on the A330

© Stansted - Orlando - Fridays 17 July – 14 Aug, & Sundays 19 July – 16 August

© Stansted – Cancun - Saturdays 18 July – 15 August

© Stansted – Las Vegas – Mondays 20 July – 17August

More for customers

© Increased choice of day flights to Corfu from East Midlands, Birmingham, and Glasgow with the introduction of Thursday flying

© Increased frequency to Tunisia from East Midlands, Glasgow, Birmingham, Manchester and Newcastle, Bristol to Zante, Belfast – Lanzarote, Bristol – Antalya, Stansted - Dalaman

© 10/11 nights now offered on – Manchester – Santorini, and Reus

© Up to 4 flights per week on Manchester – Las Vegas

[HH6702]

This is excellent news for Newcastle and the public.
Great choice. Will we be seeing these flights on tcx aircraft.

I'm sure that jet2 won't let the northeast down either I'm guessing a few new routes from them or could these extra flights be on jet2
Still many routes with jet2 not on sale yet

All good news could be a massive turning point.
Could we be hitting 5million pax a year again by end of 2015?

[EK77WNCL]

OOOOH Santorini nice! Finally!

Methinks me can sense a trip for 2015.

[Grahamy]

www.facebook.com/nclairport/photos/pcb.629126037169703/629125893836384/?type=1&theater

G-TCDD & G-TCDE

[LiamNCL]

Really taken to the new A321s in that new livery ! New aircraft , New routes happy days :ok:

[NCL-TRC]

Yes, the airport seem to be taking every opportunity to show off the new 321s on social media, can't recall this happening last year when Thomson went all 737... ;)

[LiamNCL]

Think its TCX who are drumming the A321 intrest up on social media , they done a similar thing at bristol

[GrahamK]

The Tue, Thurs and Fri FR DUB flights wll be operated by Air Explore 737-400 this summer.

[ash666]

Think its TCX who are drumming the A321 intrest up on social media , they done a similar thing at bristol
---------------------------------------------

The airport are "bigging it up" on their Facebook page.

[HH6702]

Looks like they have picked up another flight for next summer
Friday afternoon to Antalya for tcx holidays

Trying to make sence of tcx for next year but website is slow

[HH6702]

Hi guys

Ive gone through there summer brochure and been able to find and match up most of there flights however I cant seem to find the following on sale with Thomas Cook even though its in there brochure.

They are as follows

Larnaca on Sundays
Sharm El Sheikh on Wednesdays
Kefalonia on Sundays
Enfidha on Thursday and Fridays
Bodrum on Mondays

Can anyone find any of these flights??

maybe Travel Agent could look at the Thomas Cook Viewdata site the next time they are at work for us??

[LiamNCL]

Larnaca is a Saturday like it was today ?

[sunshine79]

Thomas Cook don't have viewdata anymore, they changed it over a year ago, it's all online now.

The Saturday LCA flight has been going for a couple of years now

[HH6702]

Larnaca has been Saturdays but it's changing to Sundays for summer 2015

The plane on a Saturday will now go to santorini.

[HH6702]

SSH has been Wednesday
Next year the brochure says 2x weekly Monday and Wednesday

Found the tcx flight on Monday but it's shown no Wednesday flight bookable?

[Travel Agent]

I have looked on Viewdata for 1st week in June 2015 and it is currently as follows:

Larnaca on Sundays - Not Showing but showing Wed & Sat
Sharm El Sheikh on Wednesdays - Not Showing any Wednesday flight all season
Kefalonia on Sundays - Showing 7th June (Sunday)
Enfidha on Thursday and Fridays - Showing Monday, Wednesday & Sunday flight
Bodrum on Mondays - Shows an 1855 departure on 1st June (Monday)

[Charlie98]

G-CELU has diverted into FAO on the way from ACE to NCL. Was this a unscheduled fuel stop? I thought all of the flight down to the Canaries were 752 apart from FUE - G-LSAI was also on the tarmac after the PMI return?

[LiamNCL]

Unecessary using 733s on a route like that iMO

[Charlie98]

I'm assuming it was a low load or LSAI went tech? But surely they are selling more than 149 seats on that route if its on a 75 :(

[anthbower1234]

Anyone know why EOMA is on decent to NCL?

[GrahamK]

Came from Brize Norton, so I assume it's one of the troop charters that DTVA didn't want :ok:

[fl dutchman]

ACE flight scheduled on a 733 for the next few weeks.

[GrahamK]

All quiet on the Tyneside front? It seems LS have taken FUE off sale for S15 after initially being released. They seem to be taking they're time releaseing the rest of the flights.

Tomorrows EK is a 772LR.

[Jamesair]

I suppose LS want to see what demand is like this summer for FUE before putting it on sale. The only changes I've noticed in the flights released so far are DLM (- 1 flt weekly), and PMI (+1 weekly).

This could change (as has happened in previous years), as summer 14 loads are looked at and future demand is further reviewed.

[HH6702]

I think that jet2 are still putting together there plans.

There is a few flights in the TCX summer sun which aren't on sale yet so this must be because it's either a print error or they in talks with other airlines and maybe jet2 is holding back as it try's to get slots for these flights suitable for there own program and other operators

I'm sure FUE will be added shortly

[fl dutchman]

It seems that most of the summer 2015 schedule has been released. However Alicante and Murcia flights have for some reason not been released. I think BFS and NCL are the only bases where Alicante has not been released. Some of the city break destinations ie Pisa, Prague, Krakow and Venice are also not on sale, but these destinations are generally released later than the rest.

I realise someone posted earlier that the 2 x 752s are to be replaced by 738s and an additional 733 would be based for 2015. However assuming that the flights not released yet are of about the same frequency as 2014, what is the supposedly extra 733 going to do??

I also note the destinations released where the 752s have operated in 2014 have not had any frequency increase to take into account the smaller aircraft. So less seats are on sale on these routes.

Has anyone noticed on the Jet 2 Holidays website, when you try to book almost anything from NCL it always seems to offer you a much cheaper price for the same holiday from LBA on the same day. Sometimes several hundreds of pounds of savings. I wonder if this has affected bookings from NCL.

Any thoughts? are they retreating at NCL or is something positive about to happen.

I dont think FUE has ever been released for 2015 ??

[deltahotel9]

It has certainly been true in previous years that LBA has been much cheaper than NCL but all the holidays I have looked at this year NCL is marginally cheaper than LBA. This did make me wonder if NCL is over capacity and they are having to reduce prices, hence the capacity reduction next year with the 738s? I should point out these were mostly Spanish destinations, the same may not be true for others.

[Jamesair]

FL DUTCHMAN

FUE was released in the first batch of Summer 15 flights to operate on Thursdays at 1425, it was subsequently withdrawn on release of the second batch of flights.

[fl dutchman]

Thanks Jamesair, did not see that. Wonder if it comes back. I see PRG just released for 2015.

[Black Marlin]

As of 3.11.14 LS ceasing 757-200 operations out of NCL. The two 757's being replaced by 737-800's and the 757's going to LBA.

[G-TYNE]

Still showing 752's through winter 14/15

[arran91]

anyone know why tcx 6106 is on a 4.5 hour delay to FUE

[GrahamK]

I assume YL-LCK has gone tech as YL-LCM has just positioned in.
The start of another season of tech delays? :ugh::ouch:

[LiamNCL]

I cant believe TCX insist on basing these leased A320s here after the problems they cause ! This is going to happen yet again all summer , There will be a 757 back somepoint this summer to fill in for that heap of :mad:

[N707ZS]

Looks like most of those A320s need to go to Sycamore at Dtva!

[arran91]

thanks for the vote of confidence guys when im on it in 5 weeks

[Lord Spandex Masher]

Still showing 752's through winter 14/15

They won't both go at the same time.

[nclops]

YLLCK was indeed tech this morning! YLLCM had to position in from CTA.

[Jamesair]

British Airways to add extra flights to LHR from 2nd June. A320 will do an extra rotation on Mon and Weds.

[GrahamK]

Is that actually extra flights, or just previously cancelled one's being reinstated?

[NCL-TRC]

It will be an extra rotation using the currently unused 1322/1323 flight number putting us up to seven a day from the usual six.

[fl dutchman]

Looks odd. Inbound aircraft would be on ground for about 7 hrs before returning to LHR. Have I read this incorrectly?

[Grahamy]

I see again ,one of the new A321 is working out of Manchester. It happened last week too and returned on Sun day morning. Is this just until the summer schedule is fully ramped up ? i cant see if its been replaced with another aircraft or is NCL down to 2 aircraft mid-week

[G-TYNE]

TCX still due two more A321's due in the coming days. NCL doesn't require 3 A/C every day this early in the season so the NCL aircraft are covering.

Anyone any idea what OR7611 (ArkeFly) to Calgary is doing on the departure board for tomorrow morning?

[LiamNCL]

Few missed approaches and aircraft holding atm at NCL due to severe electrical storm passing over the area ! Some amazing bolts of lightning streaking over the airport

[compton3bravo]

At a guess the Arkefly is a MoD charter.

[GrahamK]

Yeah MOD. Monarch have done a few recently, and there's been an Atlas Air 763 in a couple of times in the last few weeks from Dallas?
Kuwait Air Force C17 was a nice visitor last weekend.

Anyone tried the new lounge yet, worth paying for?

[silica]

The seats should be rolled out across the whole terminal :E

[GrahamK]

Now released:
Alicante 7 x weekly (down from 10)
Bodrum 1 x weekly Same
Corfu 1 x weekly Same
Heraklion 1 x weekly Same
Dalaman 2 x weekly (down from 3)
Dubrovnik 2 x weekly Same
Faro 7 x weekly Same
Fuerteventua 1 x weekly (Longer season)
Las Palmas 1 x weekly Same
Ibiza 6 x weekly Same
Krakow Not Released
Lanzarote 2 x weekly Same
Madeira 1 x weekly (Longer season)
Palma 11 x weekly (up from 10)
Malaga 7 x weekly Same
Mahon 3 x weekly Same
Murcia 4 x weekly (down from 5)
Paphos 2 x weekly Same
Pisa Not Released
Prague 2 x weekly Same
Pula 1 x wekly Same
Reus 3 x weekly Same
Rhodes 1 x weekly Same
Rome 2 x weekly Same
Tenerife 3 x weekly Same
Venice Not on Sale

Is the Jet2 appeal in the North East on the Wane? Are TCX/TOM/EZY winning the battle for customers in what is a fairly limited market?

[fl dutchman]

So looks like less flights with smaller aircraft. Extra 733? not unless extra routes coming.

[Jamesair]

JET 2....

Thats a net loss of 4 flights a week so far. I'm not surprised at Alicante with so much competition on the route. Maybe there is scope for some new routes using the 4 rotations in hand.

[EK77WNCL]

Very very very very disappointed :'( can we not get someone like Norwegian or the NCL contingent will be breaking out the Leonard Cohen tracks next year...

[G-TYNE]

Well it's a third summer of reduced holiday capacity by the looks of it. I had thought if anything we'd see an increase from LS with route like LCA, ZTH, KGS not being sold...

It looks as though NCL is supporting too many carriers with simply too much capacity for the amount of people wanting to travel. Prices this year seem to be higher than last year so this could be a sign that we're closer to where we should be...

[fl dutchman]

Of course if Pisa, Venice & Krakow are not on the schedule for next summer, that would be a loss of 10 flights per week. They are on sale from some other bases but not yet from NCL. hopefully they will be loaded soon.

Has anyone heard anymore if there really is an extra 733 coming for 2015. There would have to be some additional routes and or frequency increases for that to happen.

If the above routes do not happen then there could be one 733 less.

[skematicgnu]

Does anyone know what days/flights Smartlynx will be operating their A320's for TC this summer?

[EK77WNCL]

What is supposed to happen is -2 752's, +2 738's +1 733, so increase of 1... I am hoping this is incorrect, still sceptical but we'll see, suppose EMA and GLA lost their 757's.

[LiamNCL]

G-TCDC operated Larnaca today , This was operated by the A320 last week is this a A321 flight all summer on a wed ?

[SWBKCB]

Bit of context before we get more comments about airlines "lack of commitment" to NCL.

While the rest of the UK celebrates a positive set of unemployment figures, the situation for the North East is not so rosy.

The region is the only part of the UK to see a rise in the unemployment rate over the past quarter - and indeed the past year

In numbers: Today's key unemployment data for the North East - The Journal (http://www.thejournal.co.uk/business/business-news/numbers-todays-key-unemployment-data-7118544)

[GrahamK]

I think everyone is aware that the NE is the weakest part in the UK, in fact, a recent report in the Guardian (IIRC) compared it to Detroit, which I thought a bit harsh.
MME has no future as a passenger airport, so NCL needs to get those passengers up the road and spend their money here instead of going down to LBA and MAN.
Given how low prices can be from MAN however, it is a difficult fight to win...:suspect:

[GrahamK]

KLM DC-3 doing a scenic flight from NCL on 25th June :ok:

[GrahamK]

A lot of UK airports not reported yet

LHR 40708 +2%
ABZ 2708 +7%
BHD 2415 -38%
BFS 16737 +6%
SOU 8214 +8%

BRU 1840
CPH 1770 +24%
CDG 12126 +3%
DUS 3054 +9%
ORK 1474 -12%
DUB 15924 +37%
AMS 31720 +4%
SVG 1855 -13%
DXB 20211 +22%

[HH6702]

WOW!!!!!

We have done it 20,000+ pax per month
Let's hope we can keep it at least 20k a month moving forward

[Cian]

Is ORK comparing a Jet2 month to an EI-Regional month? If so 12% isn't a bad loss considering the change from jet to prop.

[apaul]

Not sure the frequencies are the same. Anyway, comparing March and April figures between years is of limited value because of the changing date of Easter.

[EK77WNCL]

Will we be able to book seats on the DC3?

Congratulations to Emirates too, long may it continue, and the transition from 733 to ATR on the ORK route only actually represents a drop of 8 seats per week, but I'm sure we'll see them pick up soon, there's a lot of advertising being done.

[HeathrowDictator]

I had a peek inside the new Servisair Aspire lounge last week and I have to say it looks very impressive! It seems as though Emirates Business Class pax get to use the "inner" premium lounge, but anyone else can pay to upgrade into there - the only differences being it is adults only and obviously smaller therefore in theory quieter.

Flying Hippo and the Beer House are also open now in departures (and have been for around a month now), and have always looked well populated when I have passed through.

-HD-

[Heathrow Harry]

"Will we be able to book seats on the DC3?"

Doubt it - the current rules and regs prohibit the use of any DC-3 inEurope carrying paying passengers - it needs a hi-jack resistant door and a door slide (I kid you not)

I think Atlantic's Farewell Tour a couple of years back was the last one you could buy seats on - I managed to get an hour on one and it was BLOODY MARVELOUS

[Centre cities]

Perhaps I am wrong but I thought that the CAA had relaxed the regulation concerning the DC3 following negotiations with Air Atlantique and that they were making plans to return them to passenger service.

Willing to be corrected.

Centre cities

[EK77WNCL]

Yeah I flew on G-AMPY from NCL too, it was absolutely brilliant, but you can book on the DDA DC3 on their website for flights in and around the Benelux area (and Germany).

There is a competition to win flights on the DC3 from HUY, NWI, NCL or MME in June as well, run through the Daily Mail which I have entered so I'm pretty confused, I hope they do go on sale, I'd like to guarantee a flight on it.

[Nathanm97]

I can't answer why they used the a320 smart lynx for the first Larnaca flight. however, the a321 is due to run the Wednesday Thomas cook flight to Larnaca throughout the summer season. 8 weeks till I'm on that flight aboard the new a321 :ok:

[Flyer70]

There is a link on the KLM Facebook page to win tickets on the KLM DC3 flight at Newcastle on 26th June.

[LiamNCL]

Can anyone shed any light on TCX 6126 - Lets Go , Thats on the departures board and is now checking in ?

[Travel Agent]

Its a flight for local travel agents to experience the new style cabins.

[LiamNCL]

on A321 ? Both based are out so must be positioning in

[JonnyH]

Brilliant commercial decision. :rolleyes:

[Travel Agent]

It is mainly for their own shop staff and select 3rd party agents. It may be because we usually get a lot of complaints about how "tatty" the interiors were, so what better way than to show agents first hand.... I was invited but tbh was on the B767 last month from Manchester which has the new seats so I turned them down as I have other things on anyway.

[HeathrowDictator]

I believe it is due to be a new A321 (G-TCDF) which positioned in from Manchester earlier. As mentioned, it is a travel agent fam flight...good PR from TCX to help their agents push the product, it shows high confidence in it from the airline side of the operation.

-HD-

[LiamNCL]

DF will be staying here after the flight , Swap for DC at MAN

[Jamesair]

The rest of the April stats have now been published with

Gatwick 10,075 up 52% EZY first month ex Flybe
Bristol 15,239 up 9%
Jersey 2080 up 2%

It looks like EZY are going to make Gatwick work better than Flybe with less flights albeit with a larger aircraft.

[BAladdy]

BA last week updated there W14 NCL to LHR schedule. BA will increase the number of flights it operates on the route to 46 x Weekly for W14. From 26th October 2014 BA plan to operate:

7 flights a day on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays.
6 flights a day on a Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday.

BA1321 NCL 07:55 LHR 09:15 x46
BA1321 NCL 08:15 LHR 09:35 4
BA1321 NCL 08:25 LHR 09:45 6
BA1325 NCL 09:40 LHR 11:00 x27
BA1325 NCL 09:45 LHR 11:05 2
BA1327 NCL 12:15 LHR 13:35 D
BA1325 NCL 13:55 LHR 15:15 7
BA1333 NCL 14:45 LHR 16:05 D
BA1331 NCL 15:50 LHR 17:10 x247
BA1335 NCL 18:00 LHR 19:15 D
BA1337 NCL 20:10 LHR 21:20 D


BA1324 LHR 07:35 NCL 08:45 D
BA1330 LHR 08:50 NCL 10:00 13
BA1330 LHR 08:55 NCL 10:05 56
BA1326 LHR 09:50 NCL 11:05 x5
BA1324 LHR 10:00 NCL 11:15 5
BA1332 LHR 12:45 NCL 14:00 D
BA1334 LHR 15:50 NCL 17:00 x356
BA1334 LHR 16:00 NCL 17:10 35
BA1334 LHR 16:15 NCL 17:25 6
BA1336 LHR 18:15 NCL 19:25 2
BA1336 LHR 18:25 NCL 19:35 x2
BA1338 LHR 20:40 NCL 21:50 D


Note: BA will begin allocating which flights are to be operated by a A319, A320 and A321 aircraft over the coming months. BA use the A319 as a default aircraft type until the allocation process is complete.

[BAladdy]

The new BA1330/BA1331 rotations are now showing as being operated by a 188 seat A321.

[GrahamK]

A couple of BA diversions inbound, BA993 TXL-LHR A319 G-EUPP followed by BA6 NRT-LHR B773 G-STBA. First non EK B77W into NCL?

[pallan]

NCL getting BA6 NRT-LHR (G-STBA) in by the looks of things....


Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker! (http://www.flightradar24.com/BAW6)

[upnorth east]

Just noticed on FR24 BA993 & BA006 heading to NCL .....

[Ian Brooks]

bad storms in London area, a few diversion in MAN also

Ian

[Jamesair]

TCX6156 dep0805 (0817) Stavanger via Skiathos ??????? quite a marathon journey :)

gremlins at work on the departure board I think.

[Jamesair]

Winter Timetable 2014/15 now on the airport website

[GrahamK]

LS again offering an Xmas Shopping charter to Vienna in November, they are also offering Munich in December in addition to the NYC flights

[deltahotel9]

I don't remmember seeing this posted before but Jet2 summer 2015 brochure shows Antalya (Tue), Larnaca (Wed), Malta (Fri) and Zante (Wed) as new from Newcastle.

[EK77WNCL]

I hope so! Where can I get my hands on one of these brochures?

[VickersVicount]

Whats that ...Google I hear you say ? ;)
Download your Jet2holidays Brochure Today (http://jet2holidays.inbro.net/)
Malta Larnaca and Dubrovnik from GLA on there too.

[G-TYNE]

Also showing extra rotations to DLM, TFS and HER. Hopefully some good news at last although nothing on sale yet.

[HH6702]

I would be very surprised if zante and antayla were not added from ncl.

Zth has been added from bfs too.

It would be nice to see heraklion go 2x weekly hopefully help with a weekend departure

All good news

[SWBKCB]

Post 5133 says Zante and Antayla have been added??

[JonnyH]

I don't mean to sound a bit negative but will some of these extra rotations on existing routes just be covering the loss of seats with the 757s leaving the base in early November?

It will, however, be nice to have more choice. I hope they can get a TFS morning flight in there somewhere. Not a fan of the late afternoon ones during the summer.

[Charlie98]

I'll be very disappointed if Jet2 put a 733 on any of the routes to the Aegean or the Canaries - they really are inadequate for those types of routes

[G-TYNE]

Johnny, next year the Tuesday TFS appears to be back to a morning departure.

[JND6198]

Looks like TCX are having more problems with the based, leased, A320. NCL-DLM departed 2 hours late on YL-LCA this morning.

[deltahotel9]

She's going to meet her sister which is tech in Dalaman hence the indefinite delay to this morning's 4am arrival.

[LTNman]

It would seem that Newcastle are not to keen on Scottish independents

Newcastle airport chiefs concerned over Scottish independence fallout - www.travelweekly.co.uk (http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articles/2014/06/10/48259/newcastle-airport-chiefs-concerned-over-scottish-independence.html)

[MerchantVenturer]

It's possible that a Westminster government would devolve responsibility for APD to Scotland anyway. The same applies to Wales with the Bristol Airport management similarly concerned about how a significantly lower APD rate (even right down to a nil rate) in Wales would impact on them.

[GrahamK]

I notice SAS have been using a fair few CRJ900s to CPH recently, shortage of Cimber CR2s, or higher than normal loads?

[Jamesair]

I understand that the CRJ900 is now programmed for the majority of NCL flights.

[VentureGo]

Anyone know what was the Boeing 747 landing just after 3pm yesterday (Friday)

[GrahamK]

It was an Atlas Air 747-400 which came in from Brazil, and departed to Calgary via Brize Norton at about 2:30am this morning.

There's also been a few Atlas 767s in recently too, as well as Kuwait Air Force C17s.

[Jamesair]

There is a good picture of it on the airport twitter link. I think it was an MOD flight (used to be MME).

[yeo valley]

make sense an mod flight to canada, as a logistis ship sailed from marchwood military port a few weeks ago,perhaps with the heavy hardware.

[EK77WNCL]

Might be too much of a big ask but does anyone know if/when anymore of these are due? Keep missing them. It's bittersweet really, I'm glad NCL is getting the revenue/pax etc from this but nothing will beat seeing these big buggers at MME, you can get bloody close there (good memories of the Air Tahiti Nui A343, Cyprus Airways A332 and probably most fondly... Seeing a Euroatlantic 772 and Air Caraibes A333 on the ground at the same time).

[N707ZS]

EK77WNCL Atlanta 742 tail scrape was very interesting at MME.

[EK77WNCL]

I wasn't aware of this? Pray tell good sir :D

[N707ZS]

Sorry for the thread drift.

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/dft_avsafety_pdf_023410.pdf

[EK77WNCL]

Very interesting, thank you, I see that aircraft was the RR testbed for the Trent 1000. Back on topic though, fingers crossed for more at NCL.

[JonnyH]

EK036 cancelled after being delayed today. I wonder where they'll be sending the passengers!

[VickersVicount]

options will be MAN, GLA or LHR I would have thought, or tomorrows half full EK

[VentureGo]

No!! - Landing in Dubai tonight at 23:51 UK Time (02:51 tomorrow Dubai time)

Don't know what problem was - Arrived NCL on Time

[NCL-TRC]

Technical issue came to light just after pushback and the aircraft pulled straight back onto stand, I beleive the plan is to operate the flight with whatever passengers and cargo there's left after tomorrow's scheduled departure, with today's looking to go at some point during the afternoon.

[EK77WNCL]

Ooooh so 2 77W's on the ground tomorrow? Shall be heading up there after my exam.

[bar none]

ek77wncl

There is an Atlas 747 on approach now.

[EK77WNCL]

Damn, according to Fr24 it left early hours of this morning too :(

[Jamesair]

Highlights from the May pax stats.....Monthly pax + 6.3% Rolling year + 1.8%

Copenhagen 1814 + 48%
Nice ......... 2902 + 34%
Paris ........ 12,531 + 7%
Dublin ....... 15,126 + 37%
Rome......... 2361 + 3%
Venice....... 2024 + 3%
Prague....... 2230 + 6%
Dubai......... 14,382 + 13%
Pisa........... 1821 + 95%
Dusseldorf.. 2763 +1%
Amsterdam.. 30,653 + 1%
Gatwick...... 10,920 + 45%
Heathrow..... 37,541 + 2%
Belfast Int.....16,631 + 4%
Bristol...........16,152 + 10%
Newquay....... 271 + 120%

Cork............. 1646 - 11%
Barcelona......6357 - 4%
Girona...........3957 - 20%
Murcia.......... 5805 - 2%
Stavanger....1636 - 2%
Krakow......... 2299 - 1%
Dubrovnik.....1164 - 37%
Aberdeen..... 2703 - 5%
Belfast City... 2069 - 48%
Birmingham.. 585 - 13%
Jersey.......... 2271 - 4%

[Matt4]

Looks like someone has put in wiki that United are starting to go to Newark from the 20th January 2015, I've had a look all over and can't find anything to back it up

[Jamesair]

That entry has already been deleted.

[VickersVicount]

...even the start date was the giveaway, when the rest of the UE EWR 757 network is decimated over the weak winter months..:rolleyes:

[HH6702]

I've heard these rumours again over the last month or so that a service will start end of may 2015

As we keep saying until the route goes on sale..........
Lol

[INeedTheFull90]

Oh dear god no! Kudos to you all though I think it's been at least two months we have gone without anyone mentioning New York!

[Falcon900LX]

The thread will soon descend into anarchy and chaos now that we've found out there will be no New York flights!
However, on a slightly more hilarious note I over heard a 'spotter' talking about how EK are rumored to be starting an evening flight as EK37/8 because of the pax increase and cargo increase. No prizes for guessing who that was.

Also Atlas Air 767, is due in at 1205 today 20/06/14

[10 DME ARC]

Second EK DXB - Well if you look at the fact that passenger numbers are mirroring GLA performance then a second daily will be on the cards eventually but not at the moment I guess, plus 037/8 are numbers used on BHX services!

[CabinCrewe]

Hasn't GLA always carried proportionately more pax since start even prior to the upgrade sequence ?

[VickersVicount]

The CAA stats would suggest so

[skyman771]

The thread will soon descend into anarchy and chaos now that we've found out there will be no New York flights!
This WHOLE thread is becoming an embarrassment, seemingly populated by an ever greater percentage of "Reggies"!
Guys have a trip over to spotters corner !
Ooooh so 2 77W's on the ground tomorrow? Shall be heading up there after my exam.
& as for those that "get off" on the sight of two EK777's then it is more than clear which thread that they should be posting,
Get a life !, or arrange a trip to DXB & certainly DON'T get too excited as to any rumours of NCL-NYC!

[EK77WNCL]

I think I'll ignore that nasty man...

For anyone interested, G-POWD due in 10:00 from Brize, out 12:00 to Calgary tomorrow.


Miscellaneous - adj
1. "Composed of or containing a variety of things; mixed; varied"
2. "Having various qualities, aspects, or subjects"

[toon22]

Quite agree!
What's happening at an airport is just as relevant as the numbers and how they're achieved.

[VentureGo]

OK - Some good points and figures to back up, but maybe the post needs to move on and be more than a "Spotters forum" (Sometimes we get lost in the grey area!")
New York does seem to fire up emotions whenever mentioned, although very unlikely to happen as long as airlines across the pond are all members of alliances connecting via other hubs (CDG,AMS,LHR,DUB etc...)
Anyone tried to book United using their booking tool from NCL to NYC (EWR/JFK/LGA)? Cheapest fare is over £3,500 on their website connecting via DUB in October-

3,546 GBP

4 tickets
at this price

Lowest Fare
Depart:
19:10
Wed., 15 Oct., 2014
Newcastle, England (NCL)
Arrive:
20:20
Wed., 15 Oct., 2014
Dublin, Ireland (DUB)
Flight Time:
1 hr 10 mn
Distance:
216 miles
Flight: EI3357
Operated by STOBART AIR.
Aircraft: ATR 72
Fare Class: Economy (Z)
Meal: Snacks for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
See On-Time Performance
Change Planes. Connect time in Dublin, Ireland (DUB) is 12 hours 40 minutes.
Depart:
09:00
Thu., 16 Oct., 2014
Dublin, Ireland (DUB)
Arrive:
11:40
Thu., 16 Oct., 2014
New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty)
Flight Time:
7 hr 40 mn

Travel Time:
21 hr 30 mn
Distance:
3,193 miles
Total Distance:
3,409 miles
Flight: UA22
Aircraft: Boeing 757-200
Fare Class: United Economy (Y)
Meal: Breakfast

Return from New York - Depart:
19:15
Sun., 19 Oct., 2014
New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty)
Arrive:
06:55 +1 Day
Mon., 20 Oct., 2014
Dublin, Ireland (DUB)
Flight Time:
6 hr 40 mn
Distance:
3,193 miles
Flight: UA23
Aircraft: Boeing 757-200
Fare Class: United Economy (Y)
Meal: Dinner
See On-Time Performance
View Seats
Change Planes. Connect time in Dublin, Ireland (DUB) is 10 hours 35 minutes.
Depart:
17:30
Mon., 20 Oct., 2014
Dublin, Ireland (DUB)
Arrive:
18:45
Mon., 20 Oct., 2014
Newcastle, England (NCL)
Flight Time:
1 hr 15 mn

Travel Time:
18 hr 30 mn
Distance:
216 miles
Total Distance:
3,409 miles
Flight: EI3356
Operated by STOBART AIR.
Aircraft: ATR 72
Fare Class: Economy (Z)
Meal: Snacks for Purchase
No Special Meal Off


No wonder they see no demand from NCL if they rely on this info to gauge demand - Guess they just want to feed existing routes (but won't at those prices)

Other routes from NCL via LHR, AMS are more expensive. American bookable at £555 via LHR using BA.

[TSR2]

Travel Time:
21 hr 30 mn

Wow, who on earth would book such an option. You can get to Australia quicker.

[JKKne]

VG's example.

Hard to understand that United pricing. I've just checked same dates into JFK using EI and its popping up at £543 return.

Out of Newcastle at 8.30 and in New York by 13.20

[shearer5]

is the klm scenic flight into today? thought it was the 25th?

ta

[heslop2006]

That price seems a little too high :confused:

My return ticket from Taipei to Newcastle via Dubai (then NCL - DXB - TPE) is only £902 ...

[VentureGo]

Yes, Agree you can book connecting flights with other operators, and much better connections than United example - But if you try to book on United's own website the minimum fare is as quoted £3,564 (with terrible connections) then upwards in price from there! - Point being if United rely on Their own system to gauge demand from NCL, they'll never fly direct.

Try it yourself: https://www.united.com/web/en-US/default.aspx?root=1&SID=3B2F1866A0C74B9E814D8F73B3A40691

Only meant to be a final point before moving on from the NYC discussion!!

[VentureGo]

FR24 states BA1338 is being operated by OY-NCT Sun Air Dornier 328 Jet this evening landing at NCL late at 22:38
History of OYNCT on FR24 show some odd flights (Newcastle on more than 10 occasions, Singapore-LHR) surely this can't be correct

[EK77WNCL]

Just been to Dublin for the day today, loads very healthy, FR173 (OM-AEX) this morning had unquestionably over 100 people onboard, our party of 5 were Seq numbers 106-109 and one checked in about 15 minutes later was seq no 111... I believe this suggests over 111 passengers.

The EI return this evening (EI-FAW) was also looking healthy, 68 +1 pax onboard and a very very nice flight

[JonnyH]

The EI return this evening (EI-FAW) was also looking healthy, 68 +1 pax onboard and a very very nice flight.

So 69 then?

[EK77WNCL]

Well yes but 1 infant :)

[fl dutchman]

This is incorrect. Has been showing this for months. Several other issues with FR 24 ie missing TCX flights and wrong aircraft types.

[anthbower1234]

DZ on her decent anyone know why the delay?

[Grahamy]

positioning in from Man, G-TCDF could have gone tech TCDD& YL-LCK are both in use today

[nclops]

GTCDF is indeed tech

[Grahamy]

Not nice , 9 hour delay. How long before people whinge about Thomas Cook and there old aircraft .;-):eek:




Goes to show even new aircraft can have faults..........

[VickersVicount]

How come there are never any posts about predictable summer delays on the other far bigger airport threads ie LGW. Is it just a local spotter fascination ?

[Grahamy]

someone asked a question , and it was answered . :ok:

so get off your local spotter high horse, if you have nothing productive too add you can hop along to a far bigger airport thread ie LGW.

[anthbower1234]

Grahmy :ok:

[JonnyH]

I also agree! It's related to the NCL base IMO.

TCDA has also now positioned in to operate the delayed DLM rotation that TCDF would have also operated. Not a great day.

[nclops]

Quite simple really, LGW, MAN etc are much bigger airports that experience these sorts of delays frequently. NCL however is much smaller and experiences delays like this relatively infrequently, hence they become more newsworthy for airports like NCL and the local people who are interested in the happenings at their local airport!

[ash666]

I would never trust a holiday to TCX from NCL. This seems to be all too frequent and none of the other airlines seem to suffer anything like as much.

[LiamNCL]

DF Still isnt operating this morning , DZ is covering ! Still not as bad as last years delays

[MATELO]

Any info on KLM959 that returned to AMS today.

Got as far as the east coast of UK then turned back saying "diverted" on arrivals board.

[Marra123]

Here is your answer:


Incident: KLM Cityhopper E190 near Norwich on Jul 14th 2014, hydraulic problem

By Simon Hradecky, created Monday, Jul 14th 2014 16:23Z, last updated Monday, Jul 14th 2014 16:23Z
A KLM Cityhopper Embraer ERJ-190, registration PH-EZS performing flight WA-959/KL-959 from Amsterdam (Netherlands) to Newcastle,EN (UK), was enroute at FL300 about 45nm north of Norwich,EN (UK) when the crew decided to return to Amsterdam reporting a low hydraulic quantity indication. The aircraft landed safely on Amsterdam's runway 18R about 30 minutes later.

A replacement Embraer ERJ-190 registration PH-EZK is estimated to reach Newcastle with a delay of 2.5 hours.

[GrahamK]

June provisional figures:

Gatwick 10551 +40%
Heathrow 40819 Flat
Aberdeen 2649 +5%
Belfast City 2257 -45%
Belfast Int 17078 +12%
Birmingham 671 -10%
Bristol 15089 +4%
Cardiff 1058 Flat
Southampton 8987 +8%

Brussels 2352
Copenhagen 1912 +46%
Paris CDG 13302 +11%
Dusseldorf 3127 +16%
Cork 1641 +19%
Dublin 12931 +22%
Amsterdam 31453 -1%
Stavanger 1803 -25%
Dubai 14693 -7%

Rolling 12 months, 4.46m +1.8%

[EK77WNCL]

I noticed that DXB had decreases from each UK airport (with NCL being the largest in terms of % as you would expect), I also noticed that leisure routes to Spain, including the canaries, Greece, Turkey etc. All had decreases as well, does anybody know why? Was their something last June that caused loads to be somewhat increased? For example (unrelated) I know that fluctuations in the timing of easter can cause March and April to have peaks on certain years but I'm confused with June...

Thank you

[GrahamK]

Thomas Cook had 757s last year vs the smaller A321 this year

[EK77WNCL]

Unfortunately that might explain some of it, but Jet2 and Thomson also had some decreases. Some were in the order of 2,000 pax over the month which I think the loss of 20 seats per flight, although it would build up, wouldn't have that much of an adverse effect.

[G-TYNE]

World Cup, Wimbledon, Glastonbury. Added to the capacity cuts from TCX it'd probably all add up to keep some people at home

[HH6702]

Also not being able to take your children out of school without being fined will take effect on some of those routes.

Yes smaller planes by TCX also

Been some cheap deals around also during june so maybe people are holding back not having as much money

[EK77WNCL]

Cheers, hopefully there might be a bit of a jump in July

[N707ZS]

Presume the upturn at Edinburgh might affect the pax numbers.

[EK77WNCL]

I hope not :/ what I did notice was that their new QR service carried 6703 pax for the month, there were 44 flights for June, about 152 pax per flight, which represents a load factor of 59.8%... compared to the first month of EK at NCL which carried approximately 159 pax per flight (9552 pax - 60 flights) which is between 57% and 71% load factor or 64% if you work out the mean... So basically without all the maths, EDI and NCL seem pretty much on par in terms of the first month of service, I do think that had EK been the first to EDI the numbers would have been closer to 10,000+ but anyway, that will be one to watch, and even moreso when EY start (QR will probably be daily by then too).

Who's next for NCL!?!?! ;)

[MATELO]

Tks Marra.

[highwideandugly]

Looking from south of the river from a no hope airport....it strikes me that the only premier style airport in the north east has very little good news compared to other northern/Scottish airports??


Nothing really to shout about..no Frankfurt,Istanbul dare I say it New York! Or even anything other than the odd 'new' alicante route????

Come on guys someone pull there finger out or we will continue to be a desert in the aviation route world!!:{

[VentureGo]

Newcastle Airport could get government aid after all - if EU agrees - The Journal (http://www.thejournal.co.uk/business/business-news/newcastle-airport-could-government-aid-7420425)

Newcastle Airport could get government aid after all - if EU agrees

Ministers are in talks with the European Commission about whether Newcastle Airport can be included in a £20m grant to introduce flights to the US

More confusion over whether Newcastle Airport was in line for a share of a £20 million fund to help it develop new routes followed a statement from Ministers that they must ask the European Commission for permission to hand over the cash.

Newcastle MP Chi Onwurah received assurances that the Government hoped to back Newcastle Airport, as she questioned Transport Ministers in the House of Commons.

But she said: “It would have been better to have got the policy right in the first place than trying to fix it now.”

It follows Chancellor George Osborne’s announcement in the Budget earlier this year that a £20 million Regional Air Connectivity Fund would be made available for airports outside the planned high speed rail network to help them attract airlines and launch new services.

This raised hopes Newcastle Airport could secure its long-held ambition of providing regular trans-Atlantic flights.

But it then emerged that only airports with less than three million annual passengers would be eligible for the assistance - while Newcastle currently serves around 4.7m each year.

The airport asked local MPs to help it secure a share of the fund.

And Ministers have now said they hope to ensure airports with fewer than five million passengers are included, but only if the EU agrees.

Speaking in the House of Commons, Ms Onwurah, MP for Newcastle upon Tyne Central, said: “Newcastle airport grew its freight from £20 million in 2006 to £250 million last year, mainly on the back of the new Dubai route, but because it attracts more than 3 million passengers per year, it cannot have access to the regional connectivity fund.

“So what is the Minister doing to bring new routes to Newcastle and improve the economy?”

Transport Minister Robert Goodwill told her: “I was pleased that the Chancellor announced the regional connectivity fund. When I was at Newcastle airport in February, there was excitement about that. It is also looking to serve further routes.

“Although the limitation is for airports of fewer than 3 million passengers, there is a provision under exceptional circumstances to allow airports such as Newcastle with fewer than 5 million passengers to participate.

“We are having conversations with the European Commission to ensure that we can do something and that we do not breach any state aid rules.”

Ms Onwurah said: “I thought he was desperately scrabbling to come up with a reasonable policy having realised that they made a mistake by excluding important regional airports like Newcastle from the means to help them grown.

“His reply was helpful but it would be much better if the scheme had been well thought through in the first place.”

The Commons Transport Committee has launched an inquiry into the role played by smaller airports.

It is to look at the strategic importance of smaller airports and the extent to which they meet the needs of regional economies.

The inquiry will also consider whether the Government is doing enough to support smaller airports.

And it will look at whether councils and local enterprise partnerships could do more to back smaller airports.

Written submissions can be provided to the inquiry by Friday 3 October 2014 through its website at www.parliament.uk/transcom .

[EK77WNCL]

Agreed, short term (less than 3 years) Frankfurt, Istanbul and incremental increases from TCX/TOM/LS maybe EZY are the way to go. Within 5 years, EK 2nd daily, 1-2 more EU routes. 10 years, New York.

Easier said than done though

[U2MTLS]

Antalya, Larnaca, Malta and Zakynthos are the latest destinations to be added to the Jet2 route network from Newcastle next summer. Can be booked from today. Good news for NCL and Jet2.

[HH6702]

Hurray!!!!

Its about time they put these routes on sale as they were in the jet2 holidays summer sun brochure for 2015 which went on sale in MAY!!

Well done to both Jet2 and airport!

Let's hope the EU agree for that funding

Looks like NCL lost out to BFS for the summer 2015 long haul virgin flights I know NCL were in talks with virgin

[rutankrd]

For example (unrelated) I know that fluctuations in the timing of easter can cause March and April to have peaks on certain years but I'm confused with June...

June and July holiday figures are down because of the Michael Gove School Tax among other things
If you have two or more 7-14 year old school kids £100 each in truancy levy adds up !

No parent with any sense would drag a 15/16 year old or A Level student out but lower years its hardly the crime of the century !

[EK77WNCL]

Sure I saw Kefalonia from NCL on the Jet2holidays website the other day, ah well still good news!

And yeah, I lost out on an extra week in Rhodes because of being 16. Well, more because they didn't release the timetables until May, and it turns out we could have gone. Jk ;) (partly)

[G-TYNE]

Still no sign of the increased frequencies to HER, TFS, DLM. Anyone any ideas when they might come about? Crete and Tenerife are generally two of my favourite spots and a Friday offering to HER would be fantastic as TOM recently moved from Thurs to an awfully timed Tuesday flight

[Ph1l1pncl]

Looks like NCL lost out to BFS for the summer 2015 long haul virgin flights. I know NCL were in talks with Virgin.

Would the runway length at NCL be long enough for a fully loaded 747 to take off to Orlando without a fuel stop?

[NCL2941]

If Virgin were to operate from Newcastle they would most likely use an A330 rather than a 747 to Orlando.

[CabinCrewe]

a 747 wouldn't need to be "fully loaded" for NCL to MCO, but a 2400m runway at NCL is pushing it a bit so could have been an issue.

[Skipness One Echo]

If Virgin were to operate from Newcastle they would most likely use an A330 rather than a 747 to Orlando.
Thing is the leisure A330s have been reconfigured to be more premium heavy in line with the LHR based fleet, so they have way too much Upper Class for a NCL operation IMHO.

[GrahamK]

Speaking of Florida, Thomson begin 788 ops tomorrow. It looks like G-TUID will position in from BHX to operate the first flights. Cancun will now be operated nonstop as well :ok:

[simonwa]

G-TUID is appropriately named "Angel of the Sky"! I will be on the second Cancun flight next Tuesday. So pleased it is now non-stop.

[GrahamK]

It seems that Thomson have dropped Morocco for S15 already :ouch:

[HH6702]

Same that it has been lost....

But where has the advertising been as I've seen none!!
How can we expect these routes to work with next to no advertising.
I think it should have been givin a little longer like

So what is replacing it??

The TOM programe from what I worked out had too many flights planned for the 3 based aircraft so maybe that Is one of the reasons for the drop in route unable to find other aircraft at suitable times or day?

[GrahamK]

There does seem to be extra flights to Antalya and Dalaman using Onur Air though.

[yeo valley]

It looks like the same at brs with the morocco flight dropped. feeling down here is they were up against easyjet, and it didnt work. i heard kos and another greek destination from brs. hope you get something to replace it. but still early days yet for s15.

[CabinCrewe]

Surprised the GLA-RAK has survived also- it now appears to be operated by JetAirFly Belgium which is interesting

[pallan]

Hi All,
Just booked flights with TCX for mid/end August to Dalaman - flight numbers TCX6506/6553 which are scheduled to be on the leased A320. Managed to grab 1A/B/C outbound and exit row seats 12A/B/C return.

Does anyone have any experience/photos or know anyone who has travelled on 'LCK? I'm assuming interior etc is the same as any other a/c but know last years a/c had a lot of tech problems - has LCK been any better this year in terms of less delays?

Thanks in advance :ok:

[LiamNCL]

I havent travelled on LCK but it hasnt had much problem at all this season , TCX having a decent summer with little delays , The only problem had was with lack A321 pilots earlier in the season and had 757s covering but you should be fine

[GrahamK]

Flybe restarting Newcastle-Exeter from 26th October, daily flights will operate!

[Kev 1]

Good news on Exeter, schedule as per below (all operated by Dash 8-400) starting 26th October:

12345 7 ETA11:55 ETD12:20 BE702/3
6 ETA17:10 ETD17:35 BE702/3

Also, it appears that the additional aircraft from Jet2 next year will be a 737-800 (rather than 737-300 as mentioned a while back), with three 737-800 departures scheduled on Monday (BJV, DLM & IBZ) afternoons and Friday (AYT, DLM & TFS) afternoons that I can see thus far.

Following additions are yet to be confirmed by Jet2, but are expected for S15 (in addition to the Antalya, Larnaca, Malta & Zakynthos announced earlier this week):

Alicante - 10 weekly flights (7 currently showing), double daily flights on Thurs, Sat & Sun.
Heraklion - 2 weekly flights (1 currrently showing), additional flight on Fri.
Dalaman - 4 weekly flights (2 currently showing), additional flights on Thurs & Sat.
Tenerife - 4 weekly flights (3 currently showing), additional flight on Sun.

Regarding Thomson, indeed Agadir has been dropped and replaced with Dalaman on Thursdays (this replaces the previous Onur Air flight planned).

Of course all is subject to change and will probably look completely different by the time S15 actually arrives.

[SWBKCB]

New flights, facilities and larger aircraft boost passenger numbers at Newcastle International Airport - The Journal (http://www.thejournal.co.uk/business/business-news/new-flights-facilities-larger-aircraft-7479861)

[skyman771]

I'd heard that the 2 times weekly NCL - VCE is to be dropped for S15 ?
Any truth in this, current LF's appear pretty good.

[GrahamK]

It appears that way, it's the only destination unavailable for S15 at the moment

[EK77WNCL]

Ah damn I hope not... Someone ring Volotea...

[fa2fi]

Given that Volotea are in the business of connecting regional airports to regional airports throughout Europe I think they could make NCL work. My only concern would be the lack of brand awareness as I think this could be their first UK mainland route operated and marketed by themselves (and not the TOM flights from Southend). But with decent marketing then I suppose there may be a chance of it working. Looking at their route map there are a few city pairings that I would never have expected so Newcastle has just as much chance as any other place to be added from their VCE base.

[highwideandugly]

Not much chance of much new at Newcastle as management seem happy to drip feed any new services?

Maybe dtv has a better chance if peel pull their fingers out??

[fa2fi]

Where in Spain is lacking from NCL that could support a flight profitably in the mid to long term? I can't think of a single one.

[Jamesair]

They might be able to do something for NCL in Italy as suggested....Milan is badly needed.

[heslop2006]

Almeria maybe? Or to go on a "cultural" side - Madrid. But I'm not exactly sure Madrid would work from NCL, not unless people wanted to go onwards to South America using Madrid as a connection point.

[EK77WNCL]

I think if IAG hadn't half heartedly thrown in the occasional CRJ to MAD from MAN/GLA (I believe it was), when they had the idea of connecting UK regional airports to LHR and MAD and if they had put some effort in and stuck it out, then I think MAD could end up working, either that or nobody from Manchester or Glasgow want to go to Madrid, Africa, Europe or Latin America, which I find hard to believe, I just don't think they let the market mature.

In terms of NCL,
Volotea to Venice - If jet2 pull out, 2-3 weekly
Vueling to Barcelona - Makes sense 3-4 weekly, might bring prices down a bit
Anyone to Milan, Munich, Frankfurt, Berlin and Lisbon

[skyman771]

I can't see the point in wishful thinking & maybe it's just me but if Venice isn't of sufficient interest to one operator, then why should Milan or indeed any Italian alternate be of interest to any operator ?
This is perhaps of even more concern when Venice offered a direct gateway to the Cruise ships operating out of the Med / Adriatic which should in theory add significant comfort to the load factors / revenue.
The only sense I can derive from this is there was some potential conflict between the port of Venice & these ships re access to the lagoon which cast a shadow over all such operations. I believe that in the end financial sense has persuaded the authorities to continue to allow access. Maybe Jet 2 are / were holding off until the result of this issue was determined ?

[highwideandugly]

Has Newcastle thought ahead ...any chance of a runway extension? Loosing runways as the uk is..Manston possibly prestwick. Maybe it's time to add a few hundred metres. With government help!!!! Who knows what the future holds... A lot less airports but offering better services.

Here down in dtv we will probably fade into oblivion and so better facilities are needd...leeds ,humberside,dtv can't offer it so maybe:ok: the the time to speculate? Just a thought guys.

[CabinCrewe]

what route and aircraft type were you thinking of to make millions of pounds of investment at NCL for a runway extension worthwhile ?

[highwideandugly]

Good point. How about the future...lots of older aircraft filtering down to secondary airlines. Freight...isn't the north east economy,Flourshing(freight airlines using older types) emirates...shortest runway in their network...so to retain??? Most current types restricted. To even Tenerife etc. and basically...give something that all airlines would be happy with? :dare I say it. NYC with noo restrictions? H24 ops no restrictions...hey. Let's go to newcstle((or dtv)!!!!!!!! Sorry guys. Speculate to accumulate..just like dtv !!!

[Jamesair]

I think the new 787/350 would be the ideal aircraft for airlines planning new long haul flights from NCL and both aircraft should be able to operate without the need for a longer runway. we know the 787 can and does. (the type exception would be the ubiquitous 757 from American operators)

Awaiting a decision about cruise ships entry and berthing in Venice may well have caused Jet 2 to hold off any announcement on the route for 2015.
The issue has been resolved now and ships will continue to operate out of the City so maybe we will hear something soon.

[fl dutchman]

It has been released for a while from EDI, LBA and MAN but not NCL. Why? If it was the cruise ship issue would that not affect other bases also. It still could be released yet.

[EK77WNCL]

Volotea has smaller aircraft and slightly lower fares by the look of it (on occasion), and Jet2's city routes from NCL seem to be trundling along slowly with numbers decreasing bit by bit until they decide it's not profitable anymore and pull it... Look at Cork... However that is now working quite nicely with Aer Lingus. Just because one airline cant/wont make it work doesn't mean another cant give it a go.

With regards to the runway extension, it's not necessary, if aircraft are performance limited, such as the A321/738, why not keep the 757's as long as they can until the neos/max's come out!!! (Only half joking)

[VentureGo]

Hop E190 operating AF1058/9 today CDG-NCL-CDG. Anyone aware that Air France are switching Newcastle to their Hop! subsidiary (as Aberdeen)

[GrahamK]

EDI is switching to Hop! this winter, NCL appears to remain a CityJet operation. I assume an Avro went tech this morning

[Falcon900LX]

Do you guys not get bored of constantly talking dribble about airlines that wouldn't ever come here?