Silhouette challenge

[Lightning Mate]

....and you TC.....

LM check previous posts by skytrain...........:ok::ok:

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon all!!

That sounds like a good plan LM!

However, my b:mad:g connection is next to useless at the moment and keeps dropping every minute or so making searching very frustrating. Will be shifting house again this evening so will be better then!

[Lightning Mate]

You must be so pissed off mate!

skytrain has gone.:uhoh::uhoh:

[RegDep]

Was afraid of that :sad:.

Not intended :\:(:(:\:sad:

Green light off. Not a good sign.

:confused:

[Lightning Mate]

Check out:
"Flight Testing" - "Full Throttle height".

[SincoTC]

You can say that again mate! It's been like it for a while but has got significantly worse since the high winds, just let them insist that it isn't a line problem!!

There can't be that many Americam biplane/triplane "sisters", so I'll take a quick punt at the Boeing Engineering Division GA-2 ? Dunno if we've had the GA-1/GAX Tripe and the piccie in Aerofiles isn't Reg's view, but the tails the same shape and there's a thingy on top of the engine cowl.

Third attempt at posting this! I copy my post to the clipboard 'cos if the con drops it's gone when I get back :ugh:

You must be so pissed off mate!

Don't worry Reg, I'm sure LM was referring to my intermittant broadband connection, not your comments!

[RegDep]

TC, yes, we have had Boeing GA-1 in August 2010. LM posted it and Skytrain busted it in two minutes. This is the biplane Boeing GA-2. Piccie is not from Aerofiles :cool:

All yours! :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

....:D.....

I think I know what's coming so, :zzz:

[SincoTC]

Thanks Reg,

Oh bugger!! Well the wind has dropped a bit and the line seems a bit more stable, so I'll try and get another one airborne. Sorry LM, It'll have to be one of yours again!

Gorrit, got a con to PB!!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf047.jpg

Edited to say, Just taking dog for a walk (chasing leaves really), back in less than an hour

[Lightning Mate]

Gorrit, got a con to PB!!

.......:mad:......:ok::ok:

[SincoTC]

:D

While I was at it, I uploaded one for WC, so if you can't play here :ok: !!

Edited to say WC = What Cockpit

[Lightning Mate]

........wossat mate,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

wheressit....??????

oosa WC?

[RegDep]

TC I wish my memory were better and I'd remember what I was looking for when every other aircraft that I found looked exactly like your challenge :(.

Like a pregnant goldfish (are there any, really? :8)

[SincoTC]

LM, seen my edit above?

Reg, I thought that it looked too similar to Mel's Welch challenge that you got the other day, which is why I put the Stal up out of order! You'd better go and check out all the ones you rejected to find that Welch :)

[RegDep]

Reg, I thought that it looked too similar to Mel's Welch challenge that you got the other day, which is why I put the Stal up out of order! You'd better go and check out all the ones you rejected to find that Welch

I found that one with the 2-cyl engine :(

[SincoTC]

OK, so you maybe don't want to go back to check like I said and I agree that they do all look similar!

I found that one with the 2-cyl engine http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/sowee.gif

Well, this one hasn't got a pesky little flat twin: it's much bigger than that, but speaking with my engineer's hat on, it's very very much bigger than its name implies!

[RegDep]

Like a mail plane with 6 to 8 passenger seats?

[SincoTC]

Sorry Reg, I was talking about the engine!

It's a two-seater (side-by-side)

[RegDep]

Engine. Sure. Had that in mind. Just saying that my experience with the Welsh was on hunting for a 2-cylinder thing. And Aerofiles.

Need to call it a day now. Nite. Seeyall tomorrow.

[SincoTC]

Sorry Reg, I have been offline for half an hour.

You won't find this one by the engine, or on Aerofiles, in fact the only use of finding the engine is that it's from the same country as the Challenge aircraft, which should help a lot!

[Lightning Mate]

LM, seen my edit above?..........Ah So Glasshopper........:ok:

Arraboy..................

[RegDep]

Couldn't leave it alone. How about Benes-Mraz Be 60 Bestiola, with Walter engine, both from Czechoslovakia?

[Lightning Mate]

Arraboy..................

[SincoTC]

Couldn't leave it alone

Reg, I well know the feeling mate!

Is that the best-iola you could manage? Well' it's good enough 'coz it's dead right! The Benes-Mraz Be 60 Bestiola. Walter Mikron engine.

A Micron being one millionth af a metre, pretty small for an engine don't you think, but I expect they were referring to accuracy of its manufacture!

Well done! RegDep has control :D:D

[Lightning Mate]

A Micron being one millionth af a metre......

.....and one should not forget that a scoche is two fifths of a tad......

......which is one tenth of a sleeve........

[SincoTC]

I try to stick to International Standards now mate, ever since the well known English unit of smallness, the "Gnats Cock" was confused by occasional confusion with the well endowed American Swamp Gnat!!

[RegDep]

Thanks TC. Addiction is something not too easy to run away from, eh?

Here's my next, but I have to leave the monitoring 'till tomorrow, if you gentlemen don't mind.

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/untitled-5.jpg

Yes, I know. Biplane :yuk:.

I try to stick to International Standards now mate, ever since the well known English unit of smallness, the "Gnats Cock" was confused by occasional confusion with the well endowed American Swamp Gnat!!

Which one is more infinitesimal (is that a double-negative, too?)?

[Lightning Mate]

In Berlin es ist spät....

...another nice piece of artistic talent..........nacht.:)

[SincoTC]

Another Biplane; thanks for the clarification, 'coz I suppose it could just have been a triplane!

Another trawl through Aerofiles candidate?

Soddit, I see his light's just gone out! Sleep well :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

...and you mate....:)

PS - there's an error with the gear legs - ignore.

[Lightning Mate]

Reg didn't pick this up, and nor did I.

This is what the gear should look like.

Nite mate.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/untitled-4.jpg

[SincoTC]

Thanks for the clarification LM,

I'm just taking the dog out for a trot, seeya tomorrow! :ok:

[RegDep]

Good morning gentlemen,

Sorry for not QC'ing LM's artwork properly :E.

Another trawl through Aerofiles candidate?

No, don't do that mate!

[Ridge Runner]

Finnish???

[RegDep]

Finnish???

Not Finnish mate!

[Lightning Mate]

Blimey - it's still up!

[RegDep]

Whaddayya know...

[Lightning Mate]

Mel Warning RED............

[RegDep]

Clue: 12 built.

[Ridge Runner]

German? A FW?

[RegDep]

Not German built, but German designers.

[Lightning Mate]

Reg,

I think some more clues are needed - everyone seems to have lost interest. :\

Some of us give frequent clues and very early to keep that interest going......................

[RegDep]

Think so, too. Although hate spilling out clues without a stab :*

Ok, gents. Think of a German aircraft and think where guys from its manufacturer would go to design an aircraft, and how it would look.

[Lightning Mate]

Although hate spilling out clues without a stab

I will always ensure that challenges are solved with a maximum time after post of 24 hours.

I prefer to use about six hours to give everyone a chance and keep the thread alive.

Nacht. :)

[RegDep]

Yes, Sir.

Nacht!

[RegDep]

Let me add for the evening shift one more clue in addition to the one three posts above: a NATO country now.

Edit to add: End of 1930s. A pioneer company in its country.

Turning in now. See you in the morning.
Reg

[SincoTC]

Ho hum, looks like I just missed you again Reg, sleep well!

everyone seems to have lost interest

Well, I haven't, it's just that my current "dog/house sitting" duties are proving very intrusive on my daily schedule. Apart from first thing his morning, when I was taking care of my WC challenge, this is the first time I've had a chance to look in, all my normal breaks are taken up with "walkies" etc!!

Rather surprised to find your bipe still here! I'm going to have a try at unraveling your clues, at least there is now an idea of the year to start the ball rolling, along with a recent addition to the list of NATO countries, but just how recent :ugh:

Dog snoring her head off now, I'll see if I can find something before I ZZZzzz too!

[RegDep]

Good morning.

but just how recent

Not very.

[evansb]

AEKKEA-Raab R-26V ?

[RegDep]

How close can one get without hitting?

No.

Rephrasing: Not AEKKEA but not far.

[Ridge Runner]

the RK-26???

[RegDep]

Not an RK-26. It is not a German aircraft. It is designed by German designers and looks much like a German aircraft, but it is an "independent" local design, not far away from where the AEKKEA-Raab was built. Czech engine, according to Jane's 1946 and Wikipedia.

[one11]

Turkish Nuri Demirag Nu.D.36

Not really deserved after all the groundwork from others but Janes 1946 was the final pointer....

[Lightning Mate]

At last..................

[RegDep]

Turkish Nuri Demirag Nu.D.36

Now, there you are!

Turkish.

Dubbed to look like a Bücker (Bucker, or "Buccer")

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/107-1.jpg

Take us out for the next challenge! :ok:

[one11]

i knew I 'd seen it in print somewhere but the NATO stuff set me off on a hunt through the Baltics first.

[RegDep]

NATO stuff set me off on a hunt through the Baltics first

Exactly as I had designed it...... :E

Greece and Turkey became NATO members in the "second wave" 1952.

[Lightning Mate]

Gorranutherwun one11?

[Lightning Mate]

He's gone!!:uhoh:

Me too then.

[one11]

Only one prepared but here it is to avoid OH
http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune030111.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

A Curtiss?

[RegDep]

A funny twin-boom entrapment.

[drawbarz]

...and a flat bottomed hull...!

Afternoon All

J.

[one11]

Curtiss - No but twin boomed and flat bottomed - Yes

[Lightning Mate]

Er...Mercedes engines?

[one11]

Not Mercedes powered....

[RegDep]

Benoist Type XIV Flying Boat 1913

CORRECTION: Benoist C 1915

Have not seen picture of the twin boomed tail, though :(

No, there was none.....

Withdrawn.

[Lightning Mate]

There's something odd at mid-span on the lower left wing, and the left wingtip leading edge ain't the same as the right one. :uhoh:

[RegDep]

Booooh!

Need a clue :confused:

[one11]

There's something odd at mid-span on the lower left wing, and the left wingtip leading edge ain't the same as the right one.

Please ignore the mid span oddity ( Rubbish editing) but the wing tip is original .:uhoh:

Clue : The designer went on to be a famous industry name with his own company

[Lightning Mate]

A Yank then....?

[one11]

Yes ..a yank.

Shown in its orginal form which was also its final form but in-between it had a major rebuild, in which form it featured previously on this thread

[Noyade]

G'day Doug and others. Is it the Loughead Model FB-1 flying Boat?

[RegDep]

Out of the blue :rolleyes:

Almost two weeks complete silence and then ZAP !

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/fest39.gif

[Noyade]

Got back from holidays yesterday evening....:ok:

[one11]

It is the Loughead F-1 - featured previously by your good self at

http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/332082-silhouette-challenge-502.html#post5763748

while rebuilt as the landplane F-1A in 1918. Jack Northrop was the designer.

Over to you Graeme

[Noyade]

Thanks Doug. I think your last float-plane was a Loughead so I started there first! ;)

Haven't had a lot of time to make silhouettes lately but here goes...

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4465/lookss.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/lookss.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Lots to do this morning, so I'll check the progress later today. :)

Cheers
Graeme.

[Lightning Mate]

G'day Mate. :):)

e-mail awaits.

Have you posted this before in a different life-form????

This is cuz I fink it might be an Oz.

[evansb]

I too am wondering if this is a repeat challenge. I think it is a CAC Boomerang, perhaps a CA-19, as the guns appear to be erased.

[Lightning Mate]

Nah mate, not that one - check the wingtip planform.

[one11]

I think your last float-plane was a Loughead so I started there first

Well spotted. How about a Commonwealth Wackett Wirraway for yours

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

Good to see you back mate, I hope you had a great holiday :ok:

I wonder if your silhouette is a Tachikawa Ki-36, Type 98 (Ida) with the fixed gear hidden by the angle ??

[Noyade]

check the wingtip planform. Sincere apologies. I had a look at the photo I hurriedly silhouetted and it turns out it's a flying replica (not very accurate) of the aircraft I thought it to be...does that make sense?

At least I'm consistent...at stuffing up simple silhouette and cockpit challenges. :ok:

Here's a more accurate plan view....

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1164/sorryt.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/sorryt.jpg/)

Not Japanese or Australian.

[Lightning Mate]

G'day mate. :)

Busy today so a quick hip shot.

Something from North American?

NA50 maybe......

[Noyade]

G'day David!

Something from North American?
NA50 maybe...... North American. Very similar to the NA-50 but this aircraft had a Pursuit designation...

[MReyn24050]

That could possibly be the North American NA-68 originally for the Royal Thai Air Force.

[Lightning Mate]

Then all I can think of is P64. :\

[Noyade]

That could possibly be the North American NA-68 originally for the Royal Thai Air Force.Sorry Mel, completely missed your post! The NA-68/P-64.

Your control. :ok: But I didn't see your post, only David's P-64.
The NA-68 as I understand it is the P-64.

While waiting I had a quick Google and they seem to use the NA-50/P-64 for the same aircraft when describing the replica?
The source of the photo silhouette says it's a P-64 but that can't be right as it's adapted from a Texan but the internet also says it was built to resemble the NA-50, so as usual I'm somewhat confused.

David has posted a challenge. Mel, are you happy to press on with that?

Oh well....

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Graeme. How are ya?

I'll be back in 50 minutes:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/nicecolour.jpg

[Noyade]

I'm somewhat confused.Sorry Mel and David...

:(

How are ya?

Dumb as ever. :)

[Noyade]

I'll be back in 50 minutes:

The background looks crystal clear, like a modern photo so possibly in a flying museum. First thought was the General Aircraft Genairco...now looking for another thought...

[Lightning Mate]

like a modern photo

It is indeed, but the aeroplane is airworthy and privately owned.

Back again soon (about another 45 mins).

[Lightning Mate]

Now I'm confused!!!!!!!!!

Graeme, in your post 20094 you gave me control. I note that it now gives it to Mel.

Would you both like me to withdraw mine?

[Noyade]

Graeme, in your post 20094 you gave me control.

I did. I missed Mel's post. By the time I corrected it, you nipped back and posted a challenge.

I don't think Mel would mind? Press on? What do you think?

Sorry.

[RegDep]

How about Ford Silver Centenary 1930. Ozzie. Pic one above Genairco. Restored by Rob Felton and Rod Edwards, Rod being the grandson of the designer Selby Ford.

[Noyade]

Nice call Reg....:)

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3235/fordn.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/fordn.jpg/)

[RegDep]

Nice call Reg.... :)

Just hitchhiking again. Started looking why would you say first Genairco, and found mine next to Genairco on a list, with the pic that LM had used. Does not need much :O.

[Noyade]

Still, you did good.

I on the other hand have caused enough confusion/chaos for one day, so I'll bid you goodnight. :)
Gotta get some sleep so I confuse you all again tomorrow!

Cheers
Graeme.

[Lightning Mate]

Graeme,
I suppose you owe Mel one.

Nice call Reg - the Silver Centenery it is. Nice call. :ok:

You have the thread.

[MReyn24050]

Graeme & David I have no problem, please carry on, I am trying to get through to HMRC as I have just received a letter telling me that if I do not get my tax return in by 31 Jan 2011 they will fine me £100. I submitted my return last month and received a reference number 32 letters long.to prove it :confused:

[Lightning Mate]

I've had that problem mate - until I did it online.

End of problem.

Methinks a new challenge is required.....:uhoh:

[RegDep]

Methinks a new challenge is required..... :uhoh:

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/image001-2-2.jpg

[SincoTC]

'Tag Reg,

Would that be the UAV Brumby, being developed by Sydney University??

[RegDep]

Tag TC

Would that be the UAV Brumby, being developed by Sydney University??

Yes, that would :).

Over to you!

[SincoTC]

Thanks Reg,

This one shouldn't last too long!!
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_wtf051.gif

[Lightning Mate]

Macchi M39.

Maybe M52.

[SincoTC]

Stick with the M39 mate 'coz that's what it is !! :D

Lightning Mate has control

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate - from a dedicated follower of the Schneider Trophy story.

Please standby....

[Lightning Mate]

Here you go:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/bluejob.jpg

[RegDep]

Cockatoo Dockyards & Engineering LJW.6 Codock

[Lightning Mate]

SIX MINUTES!!!!! :D:D

All yours.

[RegDep]

Do I have something :uhoh:.

Edit to say: I warned you. We were on the same page.

[Lightning Mate]

Not sure mate!

e-mail work fast....

Check e-mails.

[RegDep]

Gentlemen, please. Stop stomping.

A brand new challenge is on its way...:cool:

And - Ta Daa http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/fest39.gif

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/image001-3-1.jpg

[one11]

Hindustan (HAL) HT-2 from India

[Lightning Mate]

It's binna good thread today innit!

Off home - see you all later.

[RegDep]

one11

Hindustan (HAL) HT-2 from India

So it is!

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/HT2_550x568.jpg

Over to you!

[one11]

Moving quickly on.......

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune19111.jpg

[one11]

....looking again at the original the rear fuselage is thin but not quite THAT thin:uhoh:

[SincoTC]

Thanks for that; I've just got in and was about to query that!

I was also going to ask; are we looking at a parasol-wing, or a biplane cunningly hiding its upper wing behind the lower wing and is it a single or two seater?

I know I've seen that U/C before, but where :confused:

[evansb]

Renard R-31 ?

[one11]

Not the Renard , parasol wing, not a single-seater.

[one11]

1st clue - This was a one-off development of a type that had a short production run. The production model had several features not present on this variant. Back in about an hour , cheers Doug

[evansb]

Henschel HS.122a ?

[Noyade]

Morning gents!

I'll follow Bri's lead and try for another German Doug, the Dornier Do 22L.

Cheers
The Master Of Confusion
Graeme.

[one11]

Two in a row to Graeme as far as my challenges are concerned

Dornier Do 22 - recon, torpedo-bomber (http://www.aviastar.org/air/germany/dorn_do-22.php)

The Do.22L one off landplane version of the Do.22 seaplane, whose silhouette would have included a fin extension as well as the floats.

Control to Noyade

[Lightning Mate]

It's binna good thread today innit!

.....:):)...

[RegDep]

Graeme, did you explode of pride like the proverbial frog?

Edit to say: Good night all!


:zzz:

[Noyade]

Sorry, had to get some timber.

Thanks Doug.

Should be easy?...

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/3348/oddv.jpg (http://img810.imageshack.us/i/oddv.jpg/)


I submitted my return last month and received a reference number 32 letters long.to prove it I've had that problem mate - until I did it online.Are accountants expensive over there? Ours charged about $110 for me and my wife last year.

[Noyade]

David, thanks for the e-mail camera tips! :ok: We went out and bought a "High Speed Card Reader".

So I thought I'd share this with you. Julie took this photo at the Melbourne Zoo. I'm sure you recognise the critter....

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1401/d1000348.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/i/d1000348.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Your critter must be missing his home town.

He lives in Meerkovo you know!

[Ridge Runner]

Hi Graeme. Its a yank, I think. I cant picture a photo of it vaguely but cant remember the type! Bugger! RR

[Noyade]

Yes mate, a yank.

[Noyade]

One of these machines was flown by the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War.

Swissair had a few.

And Japan got one where they reportedly dissected it to evaluate American techniques in all-metal aircraft construction.

[Ridge Runner]

oh yes... the Orion?

The Lockheed 9 Orion?

[Lightning Mate]

General Aviation Clark GA-43A

[Ridge Runner]

no, no, no..... the GA43

[Ridge Runner]

bugger again!!!!!!!!! Getting old and slow!!!!!

Morning, BTW!

[Lightning Mate]

Morning mate. :)

[Noyade]

General Aviation Clark GA-43A

:ok: Your control mate!

Sorry Martin.....you missed out by "that" much!

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks Graeme and sorry RR.

This one is a bit of a rarity:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/floatjob.jpg

[Noyade]

This one is a bit of a rarity:

Only one built?

Yanks on the starboard wing?
Whistler's Mother on the starboard float?!

[Lightning Mate]

Yanks on the starboard wing?

Nope......

[Noyade]

It's on a river?

What's the name of the river?

:)

[RegDep]

I think it is Lake Constanza.

[Lightning Mate]

OK OK Graeme if you insist, but it'll cost ya.

Neva

[Noyade]

but it'll cost ya.

C'mon, I dish out plenty of clues.

Neva? I'll have to google that....

[Lightning Mate]

C'mon, I dish out plenty of clues.

That's what the thread is all about. :ok:

[Noyade]

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6320/images1001038.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/i/images1001038.jpg/)

[Noyade]

The Lebed LM-1

Good clue! :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Nice call mate.

The LM1

Back to you. :D

[Noyade]

Thanks mate!

Not on Mel's list...

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5144/againn.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/againn.jpg/)

[RegDep]

Лебедев ЛМ-1 / Лебедь Морской

Edit: Blaah. Took so long that we had a new challenge up before I was anywhere :sad:

[Ridge Runner]

Vengeance???

[Noyade]

Vengeance???

Not a Vultee product Martin...

[Lightning Mate]

Russian again?

[Noyade]

Not Russian.

Martin is closer. :)

[Noyade]

Thousands were built.

[Noyade]

Even a US President flew one.

[Lightning Mate]

The tailplane looks like your last North American job.

I wonder if that president was Reagan. :)

[Noyade]

Not a North American product mate.

Folding wings.
Carrier.
Torpedo...

[Noyade]

I wonder if that president was Reagan. :)Nope! :).....

[RegDep]

"One notable Avenger pilot was future American President George H. W. Bush, flying a TBM Avenger off the light aircraft carrier USS....."

[Noyade]

Avenger

Attaboy Reg! :ok: Your control mate!

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8914/avengeru.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/avengeru.jpg/)

[RegDep]

E-mail cyberborne LM

[Lightning Mate]

OK........

[Noyade]

How about another photo of Melbourne?











:)

Took this photo at a recent local model fair...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5638/d10000883781608.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/d10000883781608.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Superb! :ok:

RD now has his latest challenge airborne.......

[RegDep]

This should send Graeme to bed....

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/image001-4-1.jpg

Edit: Or maybe not ......

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry - missed the tailwheel......:\

[Ridge Runner]

How about another photo of Melbourne?



I remember going on the HMAS Melbourne in Portsmouth Harbour in 1977. A nice collection of machines on there!!!!

RR

[RegDep]

OK. Gentlemen: There is a tail wheel in the tail section of the aircraft :8

Took this photo at a recent local model fair...

OH, it is not life size? :ooh:

[Noyade]

Not on Mel's list?

I'm sure (then again I am The Master of Confusion) I've seen this before on this thread?

[Lightning Mate]

Count me out boys. :uhoh:

[RegDep]

Not on Mel's list?

Not that I can figure out.

Have had many similar, but that is part of the mischievous plot :E.

[Noyade]

HMAS Melbourne in Portsmouth Harbour in 1977

I spent some time on it in 1980-1983 but only with the Dept. of Defence.

but that is part of the mischievous plot http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/evil.gif.

Ahhh. That would be it then. I was initially thinking the Northrop Pioneer with the nose engine masked...but closer inspection says no...

Sorry guys but it's 2310 hrs here. Night! :ok:

[RegDep]

Sorry guys but it's 2310 hrs here. Night! :ok:

Night Graeme. Feel free to wake up in cold sweat and look if the challenge is still up :).

[Ridge Runner]

Reg, Would yours be a dutch machine?

[RegDep]

RR not Dutch.

[Ridge Runner]

I'm not sure why I think this but - Japanese?

[RegDep]

No idea, either, but not Japanese.

Look between the longitudes of the Netherlands and Japan, the shorter distance, not the longer.

And, BTW, the latitudes, too :8

[RegDep]

One more thing: One built.

[Ridge Runner]

Russian???

[RegDep]

Not Russian RR

[Ridge Runner]

give us a hint on the engines? Italian?


A Savoia Marchetti perhaps?

[SincoTC]

Hello Reg,

I think its the Turkish Nuri Demirağ Nu.D.38 ??

[RegDep]

German engines, Siemens.

The flying school of the builder is now a very major airport, and he has an (other) airport named after him.

Mails crossed. Yes TC, you are correct. NuD 38.

Nuri Demirag donated his flying school real estate to the Turkish government and Istambul Atatürk Airport is located there. Sivas Airport has recently been renamed Sivas Nuri Demirag Airport (LTAR/VAS) Sivas Nuri Demira? Hava Alan? (http://www.aymilaturizm.com/sivas/THY/atlasjet/ogerturktur/pegasus/acentasi/ofisi/sivashavaalani.htm)

Over to you TC!

[Lightning Mate]

....:).....

[SincoTC]

Thanks Reg, a good challenge!

I'm afraid that it'll have to be Open House now, as I'm off on dog/house duties very soon and won't be back until later this evening. Besides that, the one I have prepared is on my laptop at home (stupid or what), but more to the point it's in the same category as this and will no doubt have appeared on peoples searches for this one, so it'll have to lay low for a while :ugh:

Go for it RR

[Ridge Runner]

Nice one, Reg!!!!!

[RegDep]

I'll be off for the evening. Keep having fun!

[Lightning Mate]

Go for it RR

He didn't!

....:).....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/newjobgreen.jpg

[SincoTC]

Just beat me to it LM :ok:

'spect you saw I put the wrong type of bracket in the post so it didn't appear anyway, no harm done and now deleted. I think it would have been right up your street too :) ! Yours looks like skytrain territory to me!

Haven't got too much time to play at the moment, getting something to eat (if the dog doesn't get there first), then a house change and back again, but will leave light on.

[Lightning Mate]

I don't think this one is up anyones' street mate.

BTW, we are are down in the southwest on leave soon..................:eek:

[skytrain10]

Evening Gents...just a flying visit, but it does look very similar to a Diamond DA40 Star?

[Lightning Mate]

duzdunnit - but no........

[skytrain10]

Evening mate and greetings from Luxemburg....thought I'd go with the obvious first!

A European design though..?

[Lightning Mate]

A European design though..?

...well yes!!!


Evening mate and greetings from Luxemburg

You in big travel mode again!

Me too sometime this year - trying to get to OZ & NOYADE.

[skytrain10]

You in big travel mode again! Yep, fly home tomorrow am,

trying to get to OZ & NOYADE Well that kind of beats my 1 hour hops to Lux! You two going to sit and dream up some fiendish challenges? Any dates in mind?

I presume the challenge has no connection with Diamond aircraft...ie not a HOAC/Hoffman product?

[skytrain10]

How about the ATEC 321 Faeta?

Assuming correct will have to be Open House as won't be able to monitor.

[skytrain10]

Sinco, just notice your comment...
Yours looks like skytrain territory to me! Much prefer WWI biplanes myself!!:) Only joking!! Wish I'd paid more attention to the undercarriage and tail...now I've looked at pictures of the DA40 I can see the obvious differences!

[SincoTC]

Hi skytrain,

Well, it seems like you did get it pretty quickly doesn't it! I've been offline for a while re-locating (doing dog/housesitting this week).

I see you're back in Luxemburg again, does the radio still fade out in the evenings? (you may be just too young to know what I'm talking about :))

I had a go in a Diamond Twin-Star last year, glass cockpit, proper joystick, very slippery airframe and a diesel to boot. Very impressive, especially SFC.

Have a good trip home!

[skytrain10]

does the radio still fade out in the evenings?. That goes back a bit, yes I'm aware of it., but not even sure if they exist any more on AM? Wasn't there also something about Horace and Keynsham.....from the early 60's I guess?

TwinStar...a friend of mine has a 50% share in one...keep trying to get a lift back to Wales in it! One day maybe.

Closing down now, early start tomorrow.

[Lightning Mate]

How about the ATEC 321 Faeta?

Excellent shot mate. :D

skytrain has requested Open House.

[Ridge Runner]

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprubne140111-1.jpghere goes...

[Lightning Mate]

Morning mate. :)

Blimey - it seems to be stitched together!

[Lightning Mate]

Was it designed for competition?

[Ridge Runner]

NOT THAT i'M AWARE. iT HAD A MILITARY APPLICATION

[RegDep]

Tag.

Pressurized cabin research?

[Ridge Runner]

no, sorry Reg

[Ridge Runner]

NOT THAT i'M AWARE. iT HAD A MILITARY APPLICATION


More correctly the aircraftshown was used in a record breaking attempt (endurance). Thereafter a modified model (same name and designation) was proposed as a single-seat trainer for the military.

[Lightning Mate]

Ten minute lunch break.

Was the engine a Cirrus?

[Ridge Runner]

no mate, sorry

[Ridge Runner]

Hello boys.. 45 minutes before I go home and I have no internet until Monday!!!! RR

[Ridge Runner]

engine was 6 cyl/280hp

[Ridge Runner]

I'll try to log in on the Blueberry a little later!

[RegDep]

engine was 6 cyl/280hp

That fits to Toyota Landcruiser :{

Italian S.A.I.7 (Well, the description was ok, just hadn't seen the photo yet :sad:)

[MReyn24050]

I believe it is a CUKURS C.6, also known as the Sugar C.6
Mel

[RegDep]

Looks like you were correct Mel.

Looked at Latvians, because some of them looked much like this, as well as some Russians from the same time, but missed this alltogether. My source on Latvians said the the Cukurs C.6 had 135 hp de Havilland Gipsy and the Cukurs C.6bis was a two-seat dive-bomber (280 hp Hispano Suiza, granted). But it were not the clues that kept me from finding it :(. Just missed it. Good pictures in the net, too. Good challenge!

[Ridge Runner]

Mel has it! Well done

[MReyn24050]

Thanks RR, as RegDep says great challenge. Here is a nice easy one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Silhouettequiz90.jpg

[RegDep]

Mel yours one of the Bernard 190 series one-offs?

[MReyn24050]

RegDep, This one was not from Bernard.Signing off for the night. Good Night all.
Mel

[Noyade]

G'say Mel.

Is it on your list?!:)

Looks very much like the Koolhoven FK.55.

If it is, open house. Movie Marathon tonight. :ok:

Cheers.

[MReyn24050]

Graeme you have it.:ok: It is the Koolhoven FK.55. It was not on the list, we have had the FK 32, FK 52 and FK 58 but not the FK 55, until now.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/fot192.jpg

AS Graeme says OPEN HOUSE

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Mel. :)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/duskjob.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Hi David sorry for the belated reply, I must have logged off as you came on. Interesting challenge.

[Lightning Mate]

Not a problem Mel.

My computer gives me your green light when you log off - same with my own.

The thread is certainly becoming more challenging and the challenges more obscure sometimes.

This one is.

[MReyn24050]

I would say it is something along the lines of the Fokker Universal, however your aircraft is much thinner forward of the fin and rudder. Can we take it the undercarriage struts are similar to the Fokker?

[Lightning Mate]

Yes Mel, they are similar to the Fokker.

However, there is no connection.

[Noyade]

The Carpenter Monoplane.

:ok:

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/470/shapeimage27575054.png (http://img607.imageshack.us/i/shapeimage27575054.png/)

[Noyade]

If it is mate, better make it OPEN HOUSE as I'm flicking between the the Australian Open Tennis and the Australia Vs England one-day cricket on the telly.

Cheers
Graeme.

[Lightning Mate]

Evening mate.

Designed by Jack Clifford Carpenter. Only one made. :D

It might have been embarrassing if you hadn't got it. An Aussie cracks an Aussie. Great shame about the OH though mate.

Noyade has requested Open House.

[one11]

One for anybody out there. Should be able to check on and off through today...
http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune20111.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Morning mate - I'm out here. :)

Interesting. I see no power unit and it seems to have a stepped lower fuselage.

I think it is a glider, but was it launched and recovered from water?

[one11]

Morning LM - you are correct on both counts

[Lightning Mate]

Nice one mate - now the difficult part.......

[Lightning Mate]

Rats....

I've found one in a 1930 Popular Mechanics excerpt, but it doesn't say what it was.

[RegDep]

Curtiss Flying Boat Glider

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/2758893803_4ba54e41c3.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

?????.......

[Lightning Mate]

Slingsby Falcon ?

[Lightning Mate]

A bit like this:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/SlingsbyGlider.jpg

[one11]

Slingsby Falcon ?

It is. Specifically a Falcon III modified as a flying boat for use by the Windermere branch of the ATC. Up to 2009 it survived in the Steam Boat Museum on Windermere but that closed " for refurbishment" in that year.

LM has control

....and thanks for saving me the effort of loading the original.

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate.

One day maybe you'll give us sumfink powered.

BTW, blue is my favourite colour:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/niceblue.jpg

[evansb]

Pilatus SB-2 Pelican ?

[Lightning Mate]

Excellent call mate. :D:D

Just one made - now check out "Jet Blast".......Canadians......

The thread is all yours. :ok:

[evansb]

Thanks LM. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WSH110123.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Very similar to the Fieseler Fi 156 Storch or the Antonov OKA-38

[evansb]

Similar yes, but not identical. This is a post-war design.