Silhouette challenge

[SincoTC]

Don't encourage him := he doesn't need it!!

PM landed and reply sent :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Don't encourage him := he doesn't need it!!

But he won't be sober......:E

[SincoTC]

Ah yes, now you put it like that!

C'mon Graeme, David found it easily!!

I see Reg and John are on-line so you'd better hurry!

[Noyade]

Stop it! You're putting pressure on me! :suspect:

The tail doesn't fit any kraut?

Aviatik?

Hansa-Brandenberg C.1 derivative?

[RegDep]

A.E.G JII methinks....

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/aeg-j2.jpg

Good old Lufthansa.

[SincoTC]

Sorry about the pressure Graeme, we know you can take it really, but not fast enough mate!

Reg thinks correctly! It is the A.E.G JII

RegDep has control :D

[Lightning Mate]

..............looking up sleeve?............

[RegDep]

Naw. Lost you to next page. Looking stuff for my quality silhouette pimp, but, as one could expect (pardon me the vulgarity) all seem to have been used before. Stand by or shoot out an interlude piece of your artwork.

[Lightning Mate]

Stand by or shoot out an interlude piece of your artwork.

I'll wait............

[Noyade]

Sorry about the pressure Graeme,

No pressure mate, just couldn't find that tail....:(

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1508/tail.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/tail.jpg/)

[RegDep]

Youre looking for too old stuff....

[Noyade]

Looking stuff for my quality silhouette pimp

I offer cheaper, dirtier silhouettes that will do anything for a dollar.

Look me up sometime...:E

[SincoTC]

You've got a gap in there mate; you have the technology, scan it and add it!

N.B. Wiki says "AEG J.II differed from the earlier J.I in having horn-balanced tail control surfaces" so the shape was different and was going to be a clue if needed. Also, being an "airliner", it was post-war.

[Lightning Mate]

What's the difference between a G-Spot and a golf ball? An Aussie will actually search for a golf ball. :E

[Noyade]

Youre looking for too old stuff....

Yeah well, when you're victorious you can criticise and look down on the little people!

LOL :)

[Noyade]

You've got a gap in there mate;

Yeah and I bet it was the AEG. JII....bastard printers!

[Lightning Mate]

OK gents - I have received an image from Reg.

Working on it, but it will be a quickie.

(Aussies are good at those aren't they?)

[Noyade]

but it will be a quickie.

Dismissing the English in the upcoming Boxing Day Test....?

[Noyade]

SincoTC (http://www.pprune.org/members/221117-sincotc)
Holidays Trevor or have you been fired? How come you're here for so long?

It's nice having you...I'm just a curious individual.

Snow bound at home?! :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

From RD:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/late.jpg

[RegDep]

I seem to be missing some language nuances here :*.

Well, not in the challenge, in the preceding rant :cool:.

[SincoTC]

Snow bound at home?!

Maybe tomorrow! No email and dodgy power here at work, so just waiting for worst of snow to ease. Just off home now before the temerature drops again and I get stuck here.

Will be working 'till Thursday, weather permitting, main roads are fine but the trouble is that it's pretty hilly around here and even FWD Tractors can't get up some of the back roads I use.

Seems like a good time to make a dash for home!

Seeya soon with luck

[Noyade]

Lots of pressure again....:)

First stab...Handley Page Hanley Mk.I....?

[Noyade]

Seems like a godd time to make a dash for home!

Good luck mate! :ok:

[RegDep]

Funny. In German the word for this kind of weather is Unwetter, literally something like not-a-weather or a dis-weather.

The news tell that police has been called to calm down people at Frankfurt airport. Not really because Frankfurt is closed but because nobody can predict when Heathrow is open. See: nothing wrong with us. It's they all the time.

Better stick to silhouettes and let the real world go by.

[RegDep]

First stab...Handley Page Hanley Mk.I....?

Not so, but in a way not so bad, either.

[Noyade]

Second stab...Japanese...?

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7350/late.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/late.jpg/)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4435/lastscanbw.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/lastscanbw.jpg/)

[RegDep]

We are on the same page. So.....

[Lightning Mate]

Looks like Graeme is sober after all.......................

[Noyade]

The photo (mine) is called the Mitsubishi Navy Type 13-1 Carrier Attack Aircraft (B1M1)...

How'd I go?

[Lightning Mate]

Looks good to me.

Reg???

[Noyade]

Reg...David...getting close to 0100 hrs here. Been on far too long. (Only one drink David! :ok:)

Open House if it is.

Reg...got your PM, I'll respond tomorrow...OK?

Cheers Guys.
Keep warm.

[Lightning Mate]

Only one drink?

I'm on leave tomorrow for two weeks.:ok:

[RegDep]

Sorry, got carried away. Yes it is Mitsubishi B1M1b, connection to Handley Page is a British designer.

Graeme has declared an Open House, unless the thread wishes to hibernate the European winter day, which sounds like a viable alternative. I need not to look out of the window, just TV weatherman makes me shiver. And this time not because of his sponsored outfit.

[RegDep]

I'm on leave tomorrow for two weeks. :ok:

From what LM? Computer, silhouette quality pimp shop, internet, all above?

[Lightning Mate]

Try skiing again.

RD - private e-mail airborne.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/skiingagain.jpg


From what LM?

Just work. :)

[RegDep]

Side-by-side?

[Lightning Mate]

This is a rare 2 seat version of what was originally a single seater.

I can find nothing to say if it was side-by-side or tandem, but it seems to be side-by-side. :\

[RegDep]

Somehow SPADdish.

No, the wing is too high and the tail too sharp.

[RegDep]

Hah! Sikorsky S 16.

The "other guy" (left on your pic) may be some kind of cover for back and not a real guy.....

[Lightning Mate]

Bingo. :D

Your turn - and you have a choice of two which you can post, not me.:)

See what you think of the seats/guys in this picture:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/sik_s-16_1.jpg

[RegDep]

Thre russian text says that the pilot and the observer sat "рядом" which according to the dictionary means

next
beside
nearby
alongside
by
side by side
next door
next door to
abreast
adjacently
hard by
nigh
about
at one's elbow

My reading is side-by-side. Maybe the other one is just frozen stiff. In that case, my sympathy is solely on his side.

[RegDep]

OK, be it then this one:

(This forum requires that you wait 120 seconds between posts. Please try again in 46 seconds) Done.

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/image001-1-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

There you go. :ok:

Now buy yourself Photoshop as an Xmas present and do all the art stuff. :)

[RegDep]

You mean I buy something for my Missus' computer? I might but I need a rise to my weekly allowance :eek:.

:(

[Mechta]

Dewoitine D.9 / Ansaldo AC.3 ?

[RegDep]

Nooooo-o. No.

[RegDep]

Like a bride's dress: Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue.....

[Lightning Mate]

Great clue mate. :ok:

Comms check good.

[RegDep]

Mechta,

The Nooooo-o was not empathic but sympathetic-hesitant.

Take a wing from Dewoitine D.9, an engine meant for Ansaldo AC.3, borrow some drawings from Ansaldo, paint new colours to the tail, and you get.......

[Mechta]

So its got a Bristol Jupiter engine clone (and there are plenty of those), and could have been built by an Ansaldo or Dewoitine customer who took it a bit further. I was thinking Japanese, but didn't find anything. Could the blue be the colours on the tail? Swedish perhaps?

[RegDep]

Blue is a red herring. Herring is a red herring, too.

[Mechta]

Tupolev ANT-5 or I-4 ?

[RegDep]

No. Red in tail but no tools.

[SincoTC]

Guten Abend Reg,

Is it a Comte AC-1 with Swiss markings on the tail? Just like my pen-knife, but without the tools!

If correct, then please declare Open House as I have no challenges left!

[Noyade]

With a tail like that they should have called it the Comte AC-1 Shark.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/474/ac1u.jpg (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/ac1u.jpg/)

[RegDep]

Yes, Sinco. it is Comte Ac-1.

The prototype was later fitted with a Dewoitine D.9 wing, it had the same engine as Ansaldo AC.3, which it was almost a spitting image of, and it was Swiss. Comte AC-1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comte_AC-1)

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/comte-ac-1.jpg

Only one built, because Swiss Air Force wanted another Dewoitine :*.

Open House as Sinco had requested.

Edit to say that Graeme has crawled out of his bed and come up with the red tail with white cross (no herring), the same individual as in Wiki.

Good Morning, Graeme

[Noyade]

G'day all. Snowing still?

Fine and sunny here, expected top is 20 C. As a radio commentator said yesterday, "Where the hell did summer go!?" Usually it's stinking hot by now.

Should be easy...

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8365/imagedhk.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/imagedhk.jpg/)

(PM in your in-box Reg)

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

is that a Beech RL-23D ?? With Motorola APS-85 Battlefield Surveillance Radar.

Snow stopped now, more to come Weds, expected nightime low in exposed rural areas -20 C :cool:

[RegDep]

"Belly-mounted radar"!

[Noyade]

Beech RL-23D

It is! :ok:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5249/answerf.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/i/answerf.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Thanks Mate,

seen the weather report above?

Open House as I've run out of challenges at the moment!

[Noyade]

I did!

rural areas -20 C http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/cool.gif

Scary stuff! :ooh:

[Noyade]

Just a little sideline until another silhouette appears.
What movie is this from...?

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/1371/scr2468821.jpg (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/scr2468821.jpg/)

[RegDep]

Right stuff

[Noyade]

Right stuff

Nope........

[SincoTC]

I'd go along with what Reg said, but I see we need to look again!

[RegDep]

The weather is utterly relative. Last week I was out in -25 °C and it was just convenient nice winter weather. And the sun was even out for 4 hours (no clouds). Remember when we had six weeks under -28°C. Russians shot a "cruising missile" that strayed (without warhead) and went to a lake. Military fished it up. It was some -38°C when they did that.

I just saw a story on BBC website. They wondered why it is that Helsinki (EFHE) has been closed for snow last time in 2003, and then for 30 minutes. The spokeswoman in Helsinki said that she can imagine that is might be more difficult in Heathrow. I'd say relatively much more difficult....

BTW it is not Germany I am talking about.

[Noyade]

-25 °C 28°C-. -38°C Hard for me to comprehend those temps....my freezer is set at -14 C.

[Noyade]

but I see we need to look again!

That 'rocket' is a Russian parasite fighter....according to the ludicrous plot.
(No models...that really is the X-1 in powered flight)

[RegDep]

my freezer is set at -14 C

Mine, too.

When you prepare freeze-dried reindeer meat, you have to wait until spring (March-April) to get freezing temperatures at night and a bit below zero at day to get the water to evaporate. Nobel-prize folks these nomads.

[RegDep]

That 'rocket' is a Russian parasite fighter....according to the ludicrous plot.

Cannot be Dr Strangelove (wasn't that BW?). Must be a "Bond, James Bond" plot of sorts.

[Noyade]

freeze-dried reindeer meat,

Santa would be horrified....

[drawbarz]

Evening All,

Is it Jet Pilot starring John Wayne...?

John

[Noyade]

Must be a "Bond, James Bond" plot of sorts.

Nope. Sorry.

Going from memory now...made in 1950 but released in 1957.
This was the last powered flight of the X-1...and they added it to the movie script.

The actor meant to be in the X-1 is more famous for being in the saddle.

The Russian "Yak" is moments away from shooting down the Russian "Mig".

[RegDep]

Jet Pilot

with JOHN WAYNE MY HERO!

OK, I stand beaten :{:.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Pilot_(film)

[Noyade]

Is it Jet Pilot starring John Wayne...?:ok: Nicely done!

Enjoy...the planes....ignore the plot....

Jet Pilot (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4158721741046486909#)

Catch you all later!
Cheers.
Graeme.

[drawbarz]

Night Graeme.

Where are we at?

Is there a current challenge?

J.

[RegDep]

Sinco left us with Open House before Graeme caused the commotion....

[SincoTC]

I have nothing at present, so it's Open House, got anything for us John/Reg? Race for it guys :ok:

[RegDep]

How about?

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/image001-4.jpg

[SincoTC]

Two or three seats? American?

[RegDep]

Not American. Crew two.

[SincoTC]

Thanks; that'll make a nice change from searching aerofiles!

should I be looking at mainland Europe?

[RegDep]

Yes you should.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Reg,

That's something to think about; but I'm going to call it a hight now as it's an early start tomorrow to dig out the car and fit snow-chains if it looks half reasonable to get to work!

Gute Nacht

[RegDep]

I am turning in now Sinco.

Good night, see you and your report in the morning :)

:zzz:

[Noyade]

your report in the morning :)You can have my report...now. :)

The Romanian SET 7...

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/856/set72.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/set72.jpg/)
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7673/image0014g.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/i/image0014g.jpg/)

tomorrow to dig out the car I was watching a movie the other night and this guy was completely trapped inside snow from an avalanche and disorientated in terms of "up and down." Apparently the trick is to drool from your mouth...and dig in the opposite direction.

So, don't forget to keep some spit handy....and carry a shovel! :ok:

[Noyade]

If correct, open house...movie marathon tonight! :ok:

[RegDep]

You can have my report...now.

The Romanian SET 7...

Well, it was set to stay longer but then.....

Graeme has declared Open House.

The river is now filled with ice blocks which do not move any more. The seagulls seem to be in need of vectoring.

And my mouth is dry. Hopefully the snow stays where it is and does not start avalanching around.

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning / guten tag / good evening.

I found this interesting piece of kit:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/worrit-1.jpg

[SincoTC]

Good morning David, Guten Tag Reg,

Very interesting; issa 1911 Sikorsky S-6 ??

At home today, dug the car out but to no avail, a milk float has skidded into the Pub on the curve at the bottom of the slight hill in my road and blocked us all in as the other end of the road only goes up onto the moors. It was an early opening for the Pub and hardly the kind of delivery delivery they wanted!

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Trevor.

It is indeed the Sikorsky. :ok:

Fire sumfing to my home address and I'll throw it up for you after artwork thingy.

If you can't do that I'll donate one to you.

[Lightning Mate]

At home today, dug the car out but to no avail,

So your connection is working. :ok:

[SincoTC]

Sorry mate, no can do! I still don't have access to my email account, summat up with the server at work and can't get to it. Hopefully will tomorrow.

Yes, the home connection is working, but I've gor to get the OpenReach back as the line is noisy and it keeps dropping out and when it does I have to take the phone off the hook and try half a dozen times to get it back :ugh:

[Lightning Mate]

Well throw me an image as a PM. I've got one lined up if you would like it.

Despite the fact that his green light is on, Reg has disappeared, leaving only you and I.

If you OH it, quite some time might elapse before anyone responds. :\

[SincoTC]

Sorry Mate, I just had one of the drop-outs I mentioned. I didn't know I could send an image by PM, if so I'll sort something.

In the meantime it's OK to put one up for me.

Edited to say; Oh I see, like that is simple, I thought you meant embedding an image like you do when you email me back the treated ones, which I've just had a quick look and I don't think you can.

[Lightning Mate]

That's the way Reg has been doing it, but sending the URL so that I have had to retrieve it. The way he did it means, of course, that I know what it is - but the rule is confidentiality.;)

[Lightning Mate]

Evening Graeme.

Are you aware that TC has not declared OH?

Oh sorry - I see you have. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Happy to help TC - Graeme is lurking mate.

Standby for PM.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wtfwot.jpg

[RegDep]

Reg has disappeared, leaving only you and I.

Me? Where to? HELP!!!

[Lightning Mate]

When I posted that you were not on the list of "Currently Active Users"

[RegDep]

The list and the traffic light are acting errantly. I was logged in all the time. I have seen that before. Would be a trick of the trade if only I knew how to do it on purpose. Lurking in the dead angle, in the direction of sun, and hitting when least expected.... :cool:.

[SincoTC]

Thanks LM,

Reg, I think that you have joined the elite group (just LM and you) in being a forum member whos light shows on when his name is not present on the active user list :confused: I think that makes you Officailly a "Non-Person" congratulations :)

[Lightning Mate]

Lurking in the dead angle, in the direction of sun, and hitting when least expected...

Just like Aussies.

He's out there you know..............................

[Lightning Mate]

....whos light shows on when his name is not present on the active user list

It's a PC fault and not a Prune problem.

[RegDep]

elite group

Evansb did that yesterday. Would we accept him if he submits his application in due form?

It's a PC fault and not a Prune problem.

That's a Spielverderber comment in German. I thing the English expression is spoilsport.

Edit to say that in a case of spoilsport, the "elite" prevails.

[Ridge Runner]

Good morning / guten tag / good evening.

I found this interesting piece of kit:



Been there done that!

[Lightning Mate]

Scchhhhh....

Don't tell everybody!

Where ya bin?

[RegDep]

Yet another Auster?

[skytrain10]

Boisavia B601 Mercurey?

[Lightning Mate]

Ahhhh - input input......

Two of us have been so lonely. :{

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon skytrain,

I hope you're not suffering the weather too badly!

It is indeed a Boisavia Mercurey, I have it down as a B.60 (the three prototypes), but as that cannot be identified from the silhouette I accept your answer as correct and you have control :D

[RegDep]

I thought it was putting on a green that someone had just walked on....

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/mercurey050520043hi8-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Input Ken - more input.....

[skytrain10]

Hi Sinco....thanks for that. Sorry not been around lately - just busy with work with the lead up to Christmas.

Weather here has been lovely - very cold, very clear and hardly any snow. In fact today is the very first day that we may get a significant snowfall! Sadly my trips of late have suffered and I seem to have spent more time in airport lounges than flying. Oh well.

Bear with me and I'll see if I can come up with a challenge.

[skytrain10]

Here we go - I'll be interested to see how long this one lasts?

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/99aeadb0.jpg

[Arado]

Pilatus PC-12?

[SincoTC]

Cessna Turboprop Mustang ?

[Lightning Mate]

S T I G :uhoh:

nb the brushing out of the photo watermark.

[skytrain10]

Well now I know who reads the latest aviation publications - yep, its the Cessna 350 Mustang Turboprop :ok: - back to you TC

[SincoTC]

Thanks Ken,

Just "Fright Intrnational"; hardly missed an edition since it was a shilling but I'm afraid it's not what it used to be (Old codger speaking again) £3 a throw for a measly 50 pages if you're lucky. OK rant over!

LM, can I prevail on you to let me have one of yours please?

[Lightning Mate]

Don't worry TC, your wingman will look after you...........

[Lightning Mate]

It's great having two weeks off.

Sitting in front of my computer playing with programmes.

So gentlemen, with love from me to TC:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/gogo-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Just "Fright Intrnational"; hardly missed an edition since it was a shilling but I'm afraid it's not what it used to be (Old codger speaking again) £3 a throw for a measly 50 pages if you're lucky. OK rant over!
I used to get it through work, but I agree its no longer the publication it was, and probably serves the industry more as a job search than anything else! In my mind Air International or Aviation News are far better and much more informative.

[SincoTC]

So gentlemen, with love from me to TC:

I say, steady on old chap!!

Thanks mate; is it me and the background, or the progs you're playing with that given it a sinuous shark-like look? Great :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

RE. publications.

Agreed.

When I was a director of an aviation company we gave up advertising with F.I. because of the ripoff charges.

Worldwide circulation mind you.

I subscribe to an online one at work - there is no paper version. I get stuff two or three times a week. There's a new aeroplane about to be launched, but I left it on my work machine.:ugh:

[skytrain10]

A project? Or maybe a cruise missile? Reminds me of one of the HOTOL designs?
I presume we are looking at it from the front and above - certainly a strange shape!

[Lightning Mate]

.....Old codger speaking again.....

Oi skytrain - get some in mate. :p

[SincoTC]

Sorry for the delay!

Just done a bit of rapid homework and realise that the way it looks is the way it is! You are looking at the front end from above, it's not Hotol and not a cruise missile, but it is from a well established company and the prototypes flew in the 1990's.

[Lightning Mate]

Good edit mate!

I was about to launch a PM.

[RegDep]

I googled for another thread not long ago "Blimp with wings" and got a

"Looking like a giant albino queen ant, the 117-ft.-long Dynalifter"

Is that it?

[Lightning Mate]

You been on the gluhwein mate?

[SincoTC]

Sorry Reg, as LM so gently hinted, that's not it!

[RegDep]

LM: Naw mate. Rather may have been affected by a lack thereof. Why do you ask?

It still looks the same after cleaning my spectacles. Is it a photo of the thing or a reflection of a thing?

[Lightning Mate]

....as LM so gently hinted.....

Crossed posts. You should have seen the schpelling when I posted that. RD was on the ball to correct his post.

Alka Selzer anyone?

[Lightning Mate]

OK TC,

....the banter is starting to camouflage the post somewhat. Wannit up again?

[RegDep]

You mean "dear llttle Alka Selzer, please do not hiss so loud"?

And now :oh::oh::oh:

[Ridge Runner]

there is something Space Odyssey-ish about it?

[SincoTC]

....the banter is starting to camouflage the post somewhat. Wannit up again?

That would be a good idea mate, I just saved it so that I could refer to it. I have just found a picture from below and it looks to have a T-Tail, the original of yours doesn't. I'll sent you the URL to check it out!

Edited to say ignore the crap about the tail, closer inspection shows it to be the wingtip of an aircraft parked behind :O Oh dear, creeping senility

[skytrain10]

Well with that appearance I was thinking with the year I would find it easily - but there again....So prototypes as in more than 1...this is an aircraft as opposed to a UAV though?

[Lightning Mate]

OK gentlemen, here it is again.

Enough banter please - this thing is real and has flown, as TC has said.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/gogo-1.jpg

All yours Stig.

[SincoTC]

Yes, there was more than a single prototype, don't know how many but two were left when the project was dropped.

It was described as a UAV and sometimes as a UCAV. What isn't too clear from the silhouette is that there are two rounded sensor housings, at the "point" and above the nose, in plan view it is symmetrical.

Edited to say New Page Reg!!

[Lightning Mate]

Six green lights.............:ok:

[RegDep]

Tupolev TU 300.

Saw the "T-tail", too

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/twuav_05_10-1.jpg

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/images.jpg

[SincoTC]

You are correct Reg; it's the Tupolev Tu-300

I'm glad you saw the T-tail as well :) (and even more glad that I spotted it before I sent LM the URL)!!

RegDep has control :D

[Lightning Mate]

See - I never lie. :)

[RegDep]

Ach, this came so suddenly. How about OH while we have six green lights as LM says and he never......

[Lightning Mate]

No, I never lie, and neither does my computer.

However, all is not what it seems here:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/darkmountain.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Mein Gott.

This bottle of Scotch is very good - d'ya hear hic...hic.....

....Graeme will be lurking soon.....hic.....

[RegDep]

PM for LM

However, all is not what it seems here

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth......

[skytrain10]

Ryan XV-5A?

[Lightning Mate]

#@***<xx#

As they say in South Africa - Croist Min.

Maybe you should take control - the aeroplane is in trim after all. :D

....I'll get you for this........

[skytrain10]

Is that a yes then? :)

Have to be OH this time - I need to get some challenges put together!

[Lightning Mate]

Right - war again.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/okubuggers.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Do you feel the tremble boys - do you feel it?

Something in New South Wales is stirring from its' slumber.

It will be angry and in fighting mode - time to take cover for some......

On the other hand I think I'll simply arm all weapons and wait for the sod......


I need to get some challenges put together!

Sometimes people come out with some fantastic ideas...........:E

[RegDep]

I think said person has fallen out of bed and sleeps now on the floor. Sad but predictable :sad:.

[Noyade]

I don't know how you come up with them David, but your latest is the Mexican TNCA 3-E-130 Tololoche....

Quick question. Why do you reverse the image?...

(Then again, maybe I'm just not finding the exact image that you use.)

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5277/tncatololoche7476254.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/i/tncatololoche7476254.jpg/)

[RegDep]

(Then again, maybe I'm just not finding the exact image that you use.)

Insult on top of an injury, eh?

[Noyade]

G'day Reg!

What injury mate?

[RegDep]

Good Morning to you.

Never mind.......

BTW How did you do that?

[Noyade]

BTW How did you do that?Probably the same way he's finding them, I'm not sure, but not the internet. You'll have noticed that he's picking obscure fighter aircraft recently. ;)

Speaking of injuries, I suspect David has an alcohol induced head injury at the moment, sleeping it off and won't be back, so I'm going to post a cockpit and move on with the day. The forecast is clear skies and 29 C. :ok:

Cheers Reg!

[RegDep]

The forecast here is +2°C and snow/slurry/slash, which is ways worse than almost anything else.

Cheers Graeme. Take care.

[skytrain10]

Sometimes people come out with some fantastic ideas...........They do don't they, myself included. You could too mate if you tried hard enough! :)

[Lightning Mate]

Mexican TNCA 3-E-130 Tololoche

Nice call Graeme. :D

I often reverse the images - just for the sake of it really.

Where do I find my stuff? - same places where you find the answers probably.

Graeme has control.

[Noyade]

How's the head this morning mate?

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9206/guessw.gif (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/guessw.gif/)

[Lightning Mate]

Fine mate thanks. I didn't go to bed early last night because of the effects of alcohol.

Pain + painkillers = try to sleep.

[Lightning Mate]

I'll start the ball rolling with passenger transport aeroplane.

[Noyade]

Pain + painkillers = painfree + can't sleep.
Can't sleep + alcohol = headache.
Headache + can't sleep + painkillers + alcohol = Heath Ledger.

transport aeroplane

Nope..

[Noyade]

transport aeroplane.

I sit corrected. It did eventually become a long-range transport.

[Lightning Mate]

A Mitsubishi?

[Noyade]

Not a Mitsubishi....

[RegDep]

It did eventually become a long-range transport

Didn't almost all French bombers surviving the war become "colonial transport aircraft"?

Mayebe yet another silhouette where there is more to it than it seems - including twin tail and four engines :8 ?

[Noyade]

G'day Reg.

Nah mate, no smoke and mirrors. Twin engined. Single tail.

Is it French?...no.

[RegDep]

Just eliminating mate :O

South American :cool: ?

[Ridge Runner]

it looks Italian to me

[Noyade]

Not South American.
Not Italian.

[Lightning Mate]

It has to be mid-wing, and probably not radial engined, which is what made me think Japanese, but it's not a Mitsubishi.

[Noyade]

which is what made me think Japanese, but it's not a Mitsubishi. You've lost me mate. Are you saying that because it's not a Mitsubishi it can't be Japanese?

[Lightning Mate]

No - I'm saying that it was Japanese.

[Noyade]

OK............:)

[RegDep]

You mean something like Nakajima Ki-19?

The fourth prototype was converted to the mail plane in April 1939 it got the new designation N-19. It was commonly referred to as the N-19 Long-Range Communications Aircraft and sold to the Domei Tsushin (Domei Press Agency), under registration J-BACN and was named Domei No.2

[Lightning Mate]

Yes- he does. That'll teach me to keep my big mouth shut!!

[Noyade]

You mean something like Nakajima Ki-19?

You're asking me is it the Nakajima Ki-19?....no.


:)

[Lightning Mate]

Ooooooooooooo.......

[RegDep]

No. I am asking if it is Nakajima LB-2.

Adapted for civil use, the LB-2 prototype's bomb bay was replaced with a fuel tank and a cabin for six passengers was fitted, with the bombardier's position in the nose was converted to store luggage. Mantchukuo National Airways.

[Noyade]

No. I am asking if it is Nakajima LB-2.

You're now asking me if it is the Nakajima Experimental Long-range Attack aircraft LB-2?....Yes!

:)

Your control. :ok:

[RegDep]

That'll teach me to keep my big mouth shut!!

I was in Japan before you asked your questions and based on my realization that ONLY Mitshubishi was rebutted. You have to read Graeme upside down from a mirror. That's what he does to your silhouettes.

[Noyade]

What have ya got Reg ? :)

[Lightning Mate]

You have to read Graeme upside down from a mirror. That's what he does to your silhouettes.

Post your next one upside-down then. :)

Next? He's got a green one.

[RegDep]

Thanks Graeme!

I just happened to have a challenge at hand....

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/untitled-1.jpg

Taken from the direction of the sun (almost) but not from a dead angle :rolleyes:.

[Lightning Mate]

See Graeme - I told you!

[Noyade]

He's got a green one.

Don't like it. Have you got a blue one?

[RegDep]

Being as psychic as he is, he should have cracked the previous one :E.

Don't like it. Have you got a blue one?

He's all blue because of the last one.....:}

Withdrawn, Your Honour. I should not bite the hand that feeds me :oh::

[Lightning Mate]

Wanna giggle Reg?

Standby e-mail for a blue one and then change them. Then see what he says. :E

[Noyade]

OK....

Reg! Is that an American or Canadian civil transport/airliner...?

[RegDep]

Graeme, no it is not.

[Lightning Mate]

Reg, e-mail. :):)

[RegDep]

Wossa green?

[Noyade]

Looks vaguely similar upside down...

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1927/upsidedownx.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/upsidedownx.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

:D:D:D:D......

Put the blue one up Reg.....

[Noyade]

Reg! Is the mystery aircraft a military aircraft...guns, bombs and such?

[Lightning Mate]

Looks vaguely similar upside down...

So did all my girlfriends...........

[RegDep]

Stand by....

Have only a picture and the type. Looks pretty civilian to me.

[Noyade]

Is the mystery aircraft a military aircraft...guns, bombs and such?Getting late here Reg....

German?

[Noyade]

Stand by....For what?

One challenge at a time mate! :=:)

[Lightning Mate]

Graeme, I just tried to send you a photo Xmas card, but my computer doesn't want to read the camera card. I've put a new empty one in, which it sees, so I'll try again later.

Cheers Mate.

[RegDep]

Sorry Graeme. It's not German, and it is built for transport.

And LM never lies. So count carefully the propellers.

[Noyade]

Ok.

Thanks guys.

I might see you both in the morning. I hope some more players pop in soon.

Night!

Cheers.:ok:

[RegDep]

Night Graeme. See you after X-mas. Merry Christmas to you!

[Lightning Mate]

OK Reg,

Even though I don't know what it is, I can't play.

I'll drop offline now, but I see that Ridge Runner is lurking.........

[Ridge Runner]

it is either French or Dutch?

[RegDep]

Not French, not Dutch RR.

[Lightning Mate]

Drift....

AH & N, "Why did RAF CHIVENOR Close?"

page 3, post #51.

:)

[RegDep]

Impressed, although did not expect anything less :).

Well. Received a final-sounding ultimatum for Christmas shopping. Will be off line 'till closing of shops or insolvency, whichever comes first.

Enyone: stab of mercy before I go? RR? Mechta?, Arado?

Reg

[Ridge Runner]

You may be interested in this then.

"Embassy Trophy" Jet Aerobatic Competitions 1972-1987, held at Greenham Common:

1972 Fg Off Rod Dean RAF, Hunter F6, 79 Sqn/229 OCU
1973 Flt Lt W. Tyndall RAF, JP T5, 3 FTS
1974 Flt Lt P. Chapman RAF, Lightning F3, 226 OCU
1976 Flt Lt D. Webb RAF, JP 5A, 1 FTS
1977 Flt Lt D. Fitzsimmons RAF, Hawk T1, CFS
1979 Oberlieutnant Wolf Austrian AF, Saab 105E
1981 Capt Hans Hemmelder, R Netherlands AF, Northrop NF5A, 315 Sqn
1983 Flt Lt M.L. Thompson RAF, Lightning F3, LTF
1985 Major Eric Nedergaard USAF, F15C, 36 TFW

How do I know all this?

I am one of the above.

but where's YOUR Lightning mate? A JP? Even Rod mustered up a fast jet!

[Lightning Mate]

Well mate,

You will understand that, as a miltary officer, one has no choice.

It so happened that I had already won two aerobatic trophies that year, and the RAF was pleased for the international hat-trick at IAT.

Received a little something from Her Majesty for my work. :)

Somewhere in the BBC archives is a video of my Jaguar display.

Jet Provost and Lightning purring pussy cats - Jaguar nasty animal which bites at the slightest provocation..........I survived....

Take it from me at "tell it like it is" value.......

[Ridge Runner]

Very nice! I have to say that as a non-pilot and just an admirer, I love the Jag! The Lightning is beyond compare though, save my lovely howling '104!
http://www.fromthelens.co.uk/store/wp-content/uploads/wpsc/product_images/starfighter1%20copy.jpg

RR

[Lightning Mate]

save my lovely howling '104!

Ever heard the "blue note" from a Hunter?

420-450 knots accelerating at 7000rpm towards the listener.....

Dogs howl - hunters only make a noise when there is a need to.......

My one trip in a 104 - unimpressed!

[RegDep]

Birds "au nature" are not good for Jaguars LM?

[Lightning Mate]

No mate - that's how I got my Martin Baker handle.

(more of which soon)

[Ridge Runner]

Ever heard the "blue note" from a Hunter?

Yes!!!! Now there's another very nice machine!

The '104.... you won't convince me.... 1,000s of pilots around Europe likewise!

RR

[Lightning Mate]

OK........

1,000s of pilots around Europe likewise!

Spoken to any widows?.....

[Lightning Mate]

Yes!!!! Now there's another very nice machine!

Yeah yeah - until you get turret-drive failure.....

[RegDep]

No wonder why nobody is interested in the coffee grinder prototype which is in fact (emphasis mine) supposed to be the focal point of this thread :sad:.

Off to shopping. Hear the hunter howling and shackles rattling, guys :{.

[Lightning Mate]

Well, re-post it then.

If you are going out, wanna me to?

[Lightning Mate]

In the interests of circumnavigating the great banter, and since RD is under orders, herewith his latest challenge again:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/untitled.jpg

[RegDep]

Back from shopping. The shops stayed open :suspect:.

OK, summing up the clues so far, the subtle ones and other:

Three engine prototype for a transport aircraft (did not make it to production). Not American, Canadian, German, French or Dutch.

As I will be off for X-mas in the morning, I'll give the night shift a bonus clue:

14 cylinder radial engines manufactured by an European company that became GE subsidiary almost 80 years later.

Reg

[SincoTC]

Just got in from work and had something to eat. I have had a couple of looks for your challenge during breaks with no luck

Now, thanks to that last clue, I found the Walter Mars engine and from that the DAR-4 Prototype.

What's all this about taking Christmas off?? You've only just had a fortnight+ away := !! Tut Tut

Oh well ! Have a Great Time and then hurry back, we'll miss you :ok:

[RegDep]

Hello Sinco!

That's it. Well done.

As said, I need to get the field to be clean for the X-mas Specials that, I am sure, will entertain everyone on line in the coming week.

All yours now!

Have a nice holiday season!
Reg

[Noyade]

Have a nice holiday season!

Have a Merry Christmas mate! Maybe Santa will stuff your stocking with silhouette books?! :ok:

Nice job with the DAR-4 Trevor. You're not allowed to go on holidays! :)

[SincoTC]

Thanks Graeme,

What's a holiday??

As I don't know if LM has turned in for the night, I think to prevent the thread stalling, I'll declare it Open House so anyone lurking can pop up a challenge (including you mate)!

Going to turn-in now got a long day tomorrow. Have a g'day mate!

[Noyade]

Remember your Tupolev Tu-300...or was it 200?...anyway, I thought this looked interesting...

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/4821/72977175.jpg (http://img802.imageshack.us/i/72977175.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

GAF Jindivik - although maybe not - tail looks too big?

[Noyade]

Probably not a good choice mate...spur of the moment thing.

British flying bomb..designed to destroy Kamikaze attacks.

It's actually very small and ship launched.

[skytrain10]

British flying bomb..designed to destroy Kamikaze attacks.

Thats a new one on me - never realised we had such a thing! Well, googled it, came up with nothing, so going to close down now.

In case I don't catch you before hand, have a good Christmas Graeme....:ok:

Night night.

[Noyade]

Well I don't want you to stooge around too long as it's fairey late...

:)

have a good Christmas

You too mate! :ok:

[MReyn24050]

You mean this Stooge, Graeme?
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/stooge.jpg

[SincoTC]

We were always a wonderful nation for coming up with weird project names !!

1947 | 0582 | Flight Archive (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1947/1947%20-%200582.html?search=stooge)

This is a really great forum for finding out things you never knew about a vast and fascinating industry.

Thanks Graeme (and Mel) :ok: I Hope you guys have a Great Chrisfmas and a healthy New Year!!

[Lightning Mate]

As I don't know if LM has turned in for the night

Good morning TC - yes I had, in fact a long time before that. Full of painkillers again.

Wot's going on now? Is it Mels' turn?

edit to say understand waiting for Graeme to confirm.

[Noyade]

waiting for Graeme to confirm.

Confirmed! :ok: Mel's control.

[Noyade]

Have a look at Mel's photo of the Stooge....just below the end of the Swallow motors.

What is that in the background? A GAL glider?

[Lightning Mate]

Graeme,

Since you seem to have aversion to green, what colours do you like? :E

[Noyade]

The caption for my photo tells the reader it was taken (probably) at Aberporth.

Nice area?

[Noyade]

what colours do you like? :EOnes I recognise...:E

[Noyade]

Things are going to be very quiet around here I suspect with Christmas rapidly approaching.

You going anywhere on your two week break?

[Lightning Mate]

Aberporth?

Not a nice area in my opinion. It's on the west coast of the Llyn Peninsula, West Wales.

They used to operate Jindiviks from there, for the benefit of Lightning squadrons based at RAF Valley on Missile Practice Camp detachments.

Wanna some more?

edit: not going anywhere mate. It is wise to stay close to the hospital at the moment.

[Lightning Mate]

Things are going to be very quiet around here I suspect with Christmas rapidly approaching.

I'll be around. You?

[Noyade]

It is wise to stay close to the hospital at the moment.Sorry to hear that. Sounds like a wise plan then.
I'm only off work until Boxing Day. Will be away tomorrow and Christmas Day.

Gotta be honest, not the slightest interest in Christmas this year. I'm the ultimate Scrooge.

[Lightning Mate]

Then times might be lean on thread. Let's hope some are around.

I hope TC will be, because he has just sent me four images to silhouette.


not the slightest interest in Christmas this year

You're not alone.