Silhouette challenge

[Noyade]

Supermarine E.10/44 Attacker? Going on the wing flaps plus nene

G'day Wayne! Didn't see you there...neither did David...:ok:

It is indeed. All yours mate. Time to depart..."Carry-on Chaps." :)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1504/attackatack.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/attackatack.jpg/)

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

The engine cover was a big clue for me too as I once modelled one with it removed. What was the publication that called it the 'Sea Attacker'? I like that better.:ok:

Here is one from me;

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a94/WtMiller/Image3s.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Good grief!

Another one with what appear to be leading-edge ducts.

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

Yep, you've even got the cross section to help as well, how neat is that?:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Yep, you've even got the cross section to help as well, how neat is that?

I'll let you know................

[Lightning Mate]

Looks like a bomber with a very uncomfortable aimers seat.

Trouble is, why is it hinged. :ugh:

[Lightning Mate]

..."Carry-on Chaps."

Oi Graeme,

Only an RAF occifer is allowed to say that. Hic :E:E

[MReyn24050]

Only an RAF occifer is allowed to say that. Hic
Or should that be "orificer".::p

[MReyn24050]

Wild guess, a version of the DH Mosquito or Short Sturgeon..

[MReyn24050]

I think it is the Short Sturgeon T.T.2

[Lightning Mate]

Short Sturgeon T.T.2

I'm such a silly old git - I posted that before maybe.......:confused::\

[MReyn24050]

David. I take it that your challenge is the Short Sturgeon. However when you posted the aircraft before at Post #349 back in March it was a much different view.
Mel

[Lightning Mate]

Or should that be "orificer"

Nah Mate - that's too close to "artificer"...................:p


David. I take it that your challenge is the Short Sturgeon.

Not my challenge Mel. :eek:

For what we are about to receive may Mel make us truly thankful.....:confused:

[MReyn24050]

Sorry Chaps. I jumped the gun there. I now see that it was in fact HD's Challenge. I knew I should not have had that extra glass of red with my Sunday Lunch.
Mel

[Lightning Mate]

I knew I should not have had that extra glass of red with my Sunday Lunch.


Know the feeling mate. Of course, Graeme is the expert at this........

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

Hi chaps. Back from watching 'Death Becomes Her' on TV, still brilliant.

Mel has it! The Short Sturgeon TT.2, cropped to look as if its something bigger, lol.:ok:

All yours Mel.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Wayne. Here is the one I posted earlier, in my haste. I am sure you experts will have no problem.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Quiz%20Aircraft/Quiz31.jpg

Just another snippet to go on with.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Quiz%20Aircraft/Quiz31a.jpg
Mel

[Bradenav]

Bonjour

It could be a Focke-Wulf ,an A-32 perhaps...

IF right :hmm: please , OPEN HOUSE.

[Noyade]

Ha! Good work Richard....better effort that me.
I couldn't work out why that biplane strut was so close to the fuselage...:rolleyes:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9077/clevermel.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/clevermel.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning, g'day, et bonjour everyone.

[Ridge Runner]

Hello David.Where are we are with this challenge?

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Martin.

Waiting for Mel to confirm it seems.

....and it looks like an OH coming up......

[Noyade]

Did I hear someone say open house?!

[Lightning Mate]

Wohaaa Mate.

We have to wait for Mel (& check mail ). :)

[Noyade]

Step one...Upload image.
Step two...Refill wine glass
Step three..Poise finger above F5
Step four...Repeat step two.

[Lightning Mate]

Sod it!

I'm going into class now. :(

[Noyade]

Time you grew up and left school mate! :)

[MReyn24050]

sorry to keep you chaps. Richard is correct it is the Focke Wulf A.32 :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/FockeWulfA32.jpg.
Richard has declared Open House so go for it.

[Noyade]

Good on ya Mel! :ok:

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4158/pprune.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/pprune.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

there's not a lot of glazing there mate!

[Noyade]

X-Ray vision! ;)

[MReyn24050]

Just a thought. Something along the lines of the Rey R.1
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Justathought.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

That should keep you quiet Graeme.:E

Far better quality artistry.

[Noyade]

Oh Mel......it's beautiful! I now actually WANT it to be the Rey R.1...but it's not.

Not French.

[Ridge Runner]

I reckon its a Ruskie. The U/C and the image quality seems to point that way?

[Noyade]

Sorry for the long breaks...double episode of Heartbeat on...:cool:

[Noyade]

I reckon its a Ruskie. The U/C and the image quality seems to point that way?Give that man a coconut! :ok:

Get Mel to draw it with one big engine up front! Single fin/tail and keep the undercart....

[SincoTC]

Good evening Graeme,

BOK-1 SS High altitude Research, single engine monoplane ?

Open House Please if correct, as I'm back to work now!

[Lightning Mate]

I agree with RR.

Is it the Lichokov Milenko 1 ?

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/pprune.jpg

[Noyade]

Oh my word, would be artists everywhere! Brings a tear to my eye...:)

However, yet again, Sinco to the rescue...:ok: Fingers poised..OPEN HOUSE!

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6518/bok7786955.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/bok7786955.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Talking of high altitude:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wossat260.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Looks like the Tefal Mk.1

[Ridge Runner]

The photo quality says a yank to me!

[Lightning Mate]

Pre-Teflon and not a Yank.

[Ridge Runner]

but no a Brit, though, eh? I did wonder about a jap. The windscreen is neat in shape and that's why I though of an american. Ah well. I think we can be sure its not another ruskie though! Back to Google......

[Lightning Mate]

Not British either.

[Noyade]

Italian? Caproni Ca 113 or something like that...

[Lightning Mate]

Try some different numbers.....

[Ridge Runner]

Bu**er, that's wher I was going next! He could do with some fancy shades though......

[Noyade]

114 or how bout 161?

[Lightning Mate]

Good shooting Graeme.

The Ca-161 flown by Mario Pezzi, who achieved a world record of 55,920 feet, a record which still stands for a piston-engined aeroplane.

Take the floor.:ok:

[Noyade]

A second innings?! Crikey, I'll have to warm up the scanner...

[Noyade]

There...

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7343/ashes1275711.jpg (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/ashes1275711.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

How does it land?

Must be a glider, or a towed glide bomb.

[Noyade]

Dunno...retractable skid maybe?

Heavily modified production glider. Flew a very long way...long time in the air...

[Noyade]

9731 miles. 70.6 hours. Famous designer/pilot inside...

[Lightning Mate]

I presume it's a record holder then.

[Noyade]

Well, it was a record in 1969....(reading quickly).

[Lightning Mate]

Dunno.

Was the pilot also an astronaut?

Another though.

When you say Heavily modified production glider, was it pressurised?

[Noyade]

Gemini-Apollo sort of thing?...nope.
Might have been involved with that Virgin rocket thingy, you know, weightless for a few minutes for $250,000...

Designed a lot of unique looking homebuilts...two were jets I think.

[skytrain10]

I'm still around!

Bede BD-2, piloted by Jim Bede?

[Noyade]

Hey...Ken! Thanks mate, I was starting to flounder...I'll never own an endurance record...Your control mate.:ok: See ya David!

I'm outta here! :zzz:

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1926/ashes23056862.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/ashes23056862.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Where ya been Ken?

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme, wouldn't have got it without the clues...apparently it had a theoretical range of 45,000 km...could have done the first unrefueled round the world flight!

Here's something that definitely did not have that kind of range!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/sc119.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Homebuilt?

[Lightning Mate]

A Lesher design?

Maybe a Nomad....

[skytrain10]

That didn't last long.....yes, its the Lesher Nomad.

I found it whilst looking for the Bede....amazingly it had a number of speed and endurance records, including a straight line distance of 1,835 miles in 1975 for a piston engined aircraft weighing in at under 500 kgs.

Over to you David.

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you Ken. How are you?

Please standby for a silhouette.

[Lightning Mate]

Let's go back in time.

It's titled "Hello Everyone".

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wossat242.jpg

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

Hello, is it an FBA flying boat, er, type 6?

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry HD, it isn't.

I am trying to stay in the true tradition of a silhouette.

Ken, PM waiting.

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

Should it have diagonal struts outboard to the upper wing, LM, or is it 'as shown'?

[skytrain10]

An Aeromarine...model 40?

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

The closest I can find, thought I think it is wrong as the hull looks different, is one labelled '100hp Curtiss'

[Lightning Mate]

Not an Aeromarine or Curtiss I'm afraid.

The original photograph is exactly as you see it, with the exception of the brightness and contrast being changed to make it a silhouette.

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

One more shot before work. 1916 Stephens flying boat?

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry mate, it's not that either.

[MReyn24050]

The list of Challenges published up to and including 06/June/2010 has been updated. If any errors please let me know.
Mel

[Lightning Mate]

Absolutely stirling work Mel - many many thanks.:D

[Lightning Mate]

Should it have diagonal struts outboard to the upper wing, LM, or is it 'as shown'?

There are four struts per side. The bracing wires don't show.

I can post an untouched photograph of it not airborne if anyone wants.

[Lightning Mate]

To get you all looking in the right place, it was American. :)

[Ridge Runner]

Would it be right to say that the man is standing and waving because the photo was taken at a significant event?

[Lightning Mate]

I have no idea RR.

[Ridge Runner]

Ah, ok. Other than that I can't see any clues there!

[skytrain10]

Thomas B-4, maybe??

[Lightning Mate]

Sorry mate, no.

I'll let this run until early this evening and then post a photograph, which might help.

Try 1913. :)

[skytrain10]

Mmm, thought I'd covered that year! Will have another look.

[SincoTC]

Coffee break, so time for a quick shot!

Christofferson Model D ?

[Ridge Runner]

Curtiss MF?

[Lightning Mate]

Good call TC.

I have it as the Christofferson Hydro, which is good enough for me.

All yours mate.:ok:

[SincoTC]

Thanks LM,

Unfortunately, I'm back to work now and may not be able to get back again today, so it's another Open House

[Ridge Runner]

Here you go.... easy....http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af140/peach38336/pprune070610-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

As you say, "easy".

In fact it's so easy you should now remove it and replace with a more difficult one.

[Bradenav]

Hello
Grob G 115 ??

[Ridge Runner]

It is unusual to say, "sorry, no, Richard"! It is not a Grob of any sort. RR

[skytrain10]

Looks a little like an ENAER Eaglet...but its not. Would this be a homebuild?

[Bradenav]

So easy ,as you said :)

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry Skytrain, not a ENAER product. Not a homebuild either. RR

[Ridge Runner]

OK. First clue: first produced 2001 and was the first product of this company

I'll leave it with you - off to my bed! Night night!

[Walter-Karl]

RR, will the Fajr F3 from Iran qualify?

[one11]

first produced 2001

....which points to the 2002 Janes and a possible hit on the Iranian FACI F-3

[skytrain10]

I've just found a photo of the F3 in a 1996 publication. It first flew in 1995. I'm sure it is the same aircraft but didn't think to look that far back!

My own fault for not reading the clue properly: RR does say produced in 2001....which on subsequent investigation it was although its first flight was in 1995.

[Ridge Runner]

That's the one boys! An indigenous Iranian machine for a change! It was apparently produced until 2006. Well done, W-K. YOU HAVE CONTROL

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning all.

Just to let you know that my inbox is open and I await a posting instruction from WK.

(and it will be a silhouette 3-view)

[Lightning Mate]

Herewith the latest offering from WK:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/WK3.jpg

[Noyade]

I await a posting instruction from WK.So, you're the "go-between" mate?
Ask Walter if it's this...

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5688/56482369.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/56482369.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

I'm not really a "go-between".

Walter has computer problems and all I have offered to do is prepare his images and get them on to Photobucket, which for some reason he is unable to do.

Thus I act merely as a proxy poster (and proxy has an r in it).:\

It is now up to him to answer on Prune, not me.

Having said that, it looks like your image has a different engine.

[Noyade]

I'm not really a "go-between".

I know David...I'm just fooking withya...ya pimp! :)

If correct....open house...as I have no silhouettes.

[SincoTC]

Hi LM,

Just idling time during my lunch break; I'm pretty sure that Graeme has it, but you're correct that the engine looks different. I found a picture in Flight for December 27th 1957 that matches the 3-view including the prominent aerial cover under the fuselage. The caption said that it was the latest version Tuulu III, proposed for training and communications and that it had been fitted with a Continental O-470. I don't know If Greame's photo shows the II variant, but the same photo is marked as a III on a lot of other sites, however, Wikipedia has the II down for a Siemens-Halske SH-14 Radial.

Oh well, back to work! :*

[Lightning Mate]

Hi TC.

I'm sure Graeme is correct too, since I have also been looking at photos.

Trouble is, where is WK?

[Walter-Karl]

Noyade got it. The Tuuli III it is.
The Tuuli II was an entirely different design.
As to LM`s remark on the cowling. The Tuuli III was early in the test programme re-engine (and also received the large dorsal fairing) and maybe this has something to do with changes in the engine cowling lines.

[Lightning Mate]

There you are Walter!

Graeme has declared Open House, so another silhouette:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wossat261.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Haven't we had this before?

[Lightning Mate]

It's not on Mels' list............

[skytrain10]

Looks like the EM-10 Bielik?

[Lightning Mate]

Excellent shooting Ken.

The Marganski Bielic EM-10 (Eagle).

All yours mate. :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

A proper silhouette.

PS, I hope you have something ready. :)

[skytrain10]

Thanks David....interesting aircraft, very similar in concept to the ATG Javelin and the ViperJet....talking of which, I like the cabin crew on this Personal Jet!!
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/Viperjet.jpg

Sorry, this is NOT the Challenge Aircraft....that follows very shortly!!

[Lightning Mate]

Like it.....LIKE IT.....

[skytrain10]

Here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/sc120-1.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Like it.....LIKE IT.....


Oh, yes!!!!!!!!!

[Lightning Mate]

The challenge?

......:confused::confused::confused:...

[Ridge Runner]

Well, they might be a challenge.... many women are! It's fun trying though!

[Lightning Mate]

Awrr RR.

Well, they might be a challenge.... many women are! It's fun trying though!

When I were a lad in't RAF, no woman was a challenge. Just went for the easy ones mate.........

Maybe we should re-title this thread - "The Dirty Old Mens' Shape Challenge"

:E:E

Now, back to the challenge - the aeroplane. Has to be a pusher no?

[skytrain10]

LM, it actually has a shrouded pusher prop.

[SincoTC]

Good evening Ken,

I think it's Rudy Heeman's Flying Hovercraft (New Zealand). I thought that it was supposed to be a WIG machine, but it looks to be getting a bit high for that!

I have just found some interesting videos on the web and it does seem to be it.

If confirmed, please declare Open House as I won't be about 'til Thursday, thanks TC

[skytrain10]

Good detective work SincoTC, it is indeed Heeman's Flying Hovercraft from New Zealand.:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/Flying_Hovercraft_WIG.jpg

Technically a hovercraft, it also combines that concept with wings, thus creating a WIG! Powered by a single Subaru engine.

Open House has been declared.

[Lightning Mate]

The tradition of the thread:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wossat257.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

but it looks to be getting a bit high for that!

Correct!"


BTW, if any of you are bored, wanna true explanation of wing-in-ground effect?

No ?........thought so. I'll bugger off then. :\

hat, coat, I know where the door is......

[Bradenav]

Bonsoir

Union Pfeildoppeldecker 1913 (Germany) ,don't it :)

Richard

[Ridge Runner]

That's easy for you to say, Richard!

[Lightning Mate]

Easy for me to say as well!

"younun phialdopledekker" innit!

Bonsoir Richard - your thread.....:ok:

[Bradenav]

Hello RR

Have you got my message some days ago ?

" That's easy for you to say, Richard! "

WHY ?

[Bradenav]

And the new one is here (special Noyade's breakfast )
Good Luck !

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3485/49195570.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/49195570.jpg/)

[Ridge Runner]

Sorry Richard, it is my English humour!

Yes i got your PM but you had already answered it because you had posted the photo

Martin

And the latest challenge is another Russian?

[Bradenav]

Hello

For Noyade's breakfast : it's german :)

[Ridge Runner]

It is an un-manned, radio-controlled device for reconnaisance? I can imagine that it has offensive purposes?

[Noyade]

I like the cabin crew on this Personal Jet!! Like it.....LIKE IT..... Oh, yes!!!!!!!!! "The Dirty Old Mens' Shape Challenge"http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3534/joysticks.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/joysticks.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

That's a Wann-King Noy-1 is it not?

[Noyade]

No luck for me Richard.

I had a look here...

100 Jahre Nurfluegel/A century of flying wings (http://www.nuricom.de/)

...and here...

Graphische Darstellung aller bekannten Nurflügelflugzeuge/ Artist imressions of all known Flying Wings and tailless aircraft collection (http://www.nuricom.de/10000/index.htm)

...then again, I find some of the images too small to see properly.

[Noyade]

That's a Wann-King Noy-1 is it not?Yes, designed by a British gentleman, Master Bates...

[skytrain10]

Richard, a Kupper design maybe?

[Noyade]

Kupper

Lipton...?

[Noyade]

Is that a window...for a very small German pilot?

.http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3485/49195570.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/49195570.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

I've been everywhere with flying wings.

Did this thing maybe start life as a glider?

[Noyade]

Ever wondered how the hell Google works sometimes?

I googled, I think, "early powered sailplanes" and clicked images. The first image was a picture of a roast turkey...?!

And then it brags that it achieved 234,456 hits in 0.0045 seconds?!

Sometimes I think if Google slowed down a bit, it might be more accurate?

[Noyade]

I tried "Kupper aircraft" and got a picture of a hat...mind you 2,950 results in 0.05 seconds...

[Noyade]

OK...I'll go, quietly.

[Bradenav]

You are right : KUPPER is the designer ,but it was built by a "Fliegergruppe".
At first it was a sailplane without swept wing .
Good luck
Richard

[Lightning Mate]

I cannot find a photo, but is it the Ku-1 or Kr-1 ?

No, scratch those.

[Bradenav]

Sorry ,no .


A "hint":

Noyade has good ideas ,but ,affraid,wrong glasses :):)

[skytrain10]

Was the original glider the Akaflieg Mu-5?

[Bradenav]

Sorry ,no .The original glider and challenge's bird had the same name .

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

Could it be the Ku-4 Austria?

Hmmmm, clearly not. Thats what happens when you post a guess you've never seen a picture of.

[Lightning Mate]

The Ku-2 is very close.

[skytrain10]

LM, thats the one that made me think of Kupper....but from what Richard has said the challenge does not bear Kupper's name.

The hunt continues!

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

Kupper Uhu?

http://www.retroplane.net/forum/images/uploads/Thierry_P/HPIM1747_172.jpg

[skytrain10]

There is a resemblance to the Kirchner Futurum....but its not that.:ugh:

Been through all the "flying wing" and glider websites and not getting anywhere!

[Lightning Mate]

Well, I've found another photo of it listed as the Ku-2 "Uhu". :\

[Bradenav]

Hello

LM is right

It's the Friedberg "Uhu" designed by Kupper in 1929/30 .
Often designated Kupper Ku 2 ,it was built at the Ingenieur-Schule Friedberg/Hessen .

L M ,you have control:)

[Lightning Mate]

Richard, please check.

I think HD got there first......

[Bradenav]

LM 13.35 : "The Ku-2 is very close"
HD 13.48 : "Kupper Uhu?"

Well ,I don't know :confused::confused::confused:...What do you suggest ...?

[Lightning Mate]

I forgot I posted that. Thank you and standby.

[Lightning Mate]

I am staying with the true spirit of "Silhouette Challenge".

So here's a silhouette:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wossat250-2.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

a min-Mariner?

[Lightning Mate]

A what......?

[skytrain10]

German...?

[Lightning Mate]

Not German Ken.

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/fish_hook_19482_lg.gif

[skytrain10]

Fishing...moi?

So it is Russian?!

[Lightning Mate]

Niet comrade.

[skytrain10]

Appears to be a scale version of something bigger? Did it actually fly?

Still fishing!!

[Lightning Mate]

It did fly.

[Lightning Mate]

It was a 3/8 scale test aeroplane for something else, and RR was getting close, and then went off-thread.

[Lightning Mate]

I think my above post is quite a clue......

I'm going home in about 20 minutes - I'll put my green light off when I do.

I'll be back around 1800.

[skytrain10]

Martin 162A?

[Lightning Mate]

Nicely done 10.

The "Tadpole Clipper".

Your turn. :ok:

(PM coming)

[skytrain10]

Thanks LM...the clue did kind of make things easy!

Here we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/sc112-2.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Clues are what it's all about. No point making it anything other than fun.

My turn:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/fish_hook_19482_lg.gif French....

[Bradenav]

Hello
It looks like the Gabardini G.8

Richard

[skytrain10]

Had to go out for an hour...

Not French LM

But you are correct Richard, it is the Garbardini G8.

Back to you.

[Lightning Mate]

OK guys, here's a bold statement, which will undoubtedly piss off some of you.

This thread is unique on internet aeroplane challenges/competitions.

The thead is becoming more like Aviaquiz.

This is called "Silhouette Challenge".

Let's keep it that way please.

No obscure photos, no white-on-black line drawings or white-on-black, which are not silhouettes.

......and yes, I have been guilty as well.

My two-penneth - sorry.....

I know where the door is, I'll get me coat and hat............bye

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

Well, its buggered my next offering, which is one of those fancy crops again, but I don't have a problem with going back to silhouettes, if that's what everyone wants?

[Bradenav]

Silhouette : here we are :)
An easy one : good luck

Richard

[URL=http://img823.imageshack.us/i/51545127.jpg/]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9199/51545127.jpg[/URL

[zetec2]

Swearingen Metro Merlin variant ?. PH.

[skytrain10]

Looks like Zetec2 is there....to be more precise I would say its the SA227-TT Fairchild 300, variant of the basic SA227-TT Merlin IIIC.

[Ridge Runner]

OK guys, here's a bold statement, which will undoubtedly piss off some of you.

This thread is unique on internet aeroplane challenges/competitions.

The thead is becoming more like Aviaquiz.

This is called "Silhouette Challenge".

Let's keep it that way please.

No obscure photos, no white-on-black line drawings or white-on-black, which are not silhouettes.

......and yes, I have been guilty as well.

My two-penneth - sorry.....


I thought you were the one who canvassed for departing from the silhouettes mate? I'm more than happy to go back to it!

Oh, and ....The "Tadpole Clipper".

My reference to the mini-Mariner! It was quite obvoius but I had to go and work!

Didn't see you at the terminal opening today David.... (not that I know what you look like!!)

RR

[zetec2]

If was correct, apologies will have to be open house, seem to have caught me with nothing to post, sorry, PH.

[skytrain10]

If I can add my support to LM's statement.

In the last few months it seems the forum has deviated from what was (as far as I am aware) a unique competition on the web, to one that has become a yet another ID the aircraft contest. To be honest I had lost interest in it, and judging by the inactivity of certain previous regulars, I am guessing certain others had as well.

I suppose ultimately its a case of what everyone prefers, but as I think someone said some time back, if the view is that it should be open to photos, bits of aircraft etc, then consideration should be given to changing the name, and out of courtesy, to consult with dazdaz, since he was the one who started it.

I had better start finding some more challenging silhouettes now!

Ken

[Bradenav]

SKYTRAIN is right : Fairchild 300 , developement of the Swearingen Merlin IIIC , may 1983; :ok:

You have control :)

About " silhouette " ,I think they may include 3-views too...

[Ridge Runner]

Well, David, you've opened up a real discussion! I'm okay with what we've been doing but Skytrain is right, we have lost some members following thr change. I support the idea of getting back to silhouettes. However, I agree with Richard that we should include 3-views as long as some attempt is made to make them a silhouette.

M

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Martin.

Well, David, you've opened up a real discussion! I'm okay with what we've been doing but Skytrain is right, we have lost some members following thr change. I support the idea of getting back to silhouettes. However, I agree with Richard that we should include 3-views as long as some attempt is made to make them a silhouette.

Mel has said "you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time".

I was simply a little unhappy that we were losing some of the thread players, which is not a good thing in my opinion.

Making a 3-view into a pure silhouette with no detailing is very easy.

Personally I shall post a single three-dimensional silhouette from a photograph.

I have, however, been enjoying some of the recent banter that has been appearing - no point in being too serious and I'm all for that sort of thing (Graeme take note).

So, onward and upward with challenges and more merry banter.

David

[skytrain10]

Thanks Richard...a surprisingly rare aircraft with only 10 being built,

Here's we go:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/SC122.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/fish_hook_19482_lg.gif European not American?

[skytrain10]

Thats a lot of fishing!!

Not European, and don't bother looking at Aerofiles!

That should make it easier!

[Lightning Mate]

So, not European.

That's one of mine up the swanny then - it's a ringer for a certain Czech tourer. :\

[skytrain10]

I do like look-a-likes!

Is this the Czech tourer you were thinking of?

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/IMG_2291.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

No.

That one is much nicer - mines the one in the right-hand seat.......

[skytrain10]

For some reason it was the most popular stand at Aeroexpo last year!

[Lightning Mate]

The nosewheel is Lancair, but the rest doesn't fit.

[skytrain10]

Oh, sorry, yes, back to the challenge!

As you say, not a Lancair.

[Lightning Mate]

and don't bother looking at Aerofiles!

That doesn't necessarily mean it's not American.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/fish_hook_19482_lg.gif

[skytrain10]

You wouldn't want me to make it too easy, but its not from the US.

Out for an hour or so now, so will catch up later.

Ken

[Lightning Mate]

Out for an hour or so now, so will catch up later.

Nothing to catch up on - at least not from me, yet.... :ugh:

[Bradenav]

Hello :
a POTTIER:confused: ???

[skytrain10]

Not a Pottier, and as previously mentioned, its not European.

[Lightning Mate]

I've just got back from South America, unfortunately with no souvenirs. :\

[skytrain10]

Take a closer look LM.....

[Lightning Mate]

Ahh. This time I remembered to put a worm on the hook. ;)

Trouble is, I'm going home shortly and now everyone knows where to go. :\:\

[skytrain10]

Better get home quickly then....mind you there's only one other player on line at present.

[Lightning Mate]

Home now.

An hour has passed and nothing? This is obviously a tough nut to crack.

Off on my travels again. :cool:

[SincoTC]

Good evening Ken,

Could it be the ACS-100 Sora ?

A "Brazil Nut" is very tough to crack, thanks LM!

If correct, please declare Open House as I'm off in half an hour!

[Lightning Mate]

Right Ken,

There's only one place left to visit - THE WINE RACK.:uhoh:

A "Brazil Nut" is very tough to crack, thanks LM!

Any time TC. :p

[skytrain10]

Good call SincoTC :ok:, it is the ACS-100 Sora from Brazil....not often a current production aircraft appears on the forum!

Sorry LM...guess as you feared the clue helped others....!! Must be time for a glass or two!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/ACS100SORA.jpg

SincoTC has declared Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

Right!

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wossat256-2.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

In case you all get bored with that one, may I ask the erudite and talented players to help me with a genuine problem, which is not a challenge.

Is anyone able to identify this helicopter for me?























http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/unknownhelicopter.jpg

No NO.....the helicopter....the helicopter....THE HELICOPTER....dammit!

[skytrain10]

Surely this is American, or is it European!!!???

(the challenge aircraft that is!!)

[Bradenav]

Hello
SAIMAN 202 ??

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/fish_hook_19482_lg.gif :=

European and not a Saiman.

Ken, PM shortly.

[Lightning Mate]

I see before mine eyes some round shaped pieces of ye ancient cork.

Because of mine age and experience I am able to note that these seem to be twice, nay thrice, the actual number.

I must therefore lay down my weary head to suffice myneself for tomorrow - I know these things to be in the way of the great God LM.

:zzz::zzz::zzz:

[skytrain10]

Sounds like you've had a pleasant evening.

Night night....perhaps Graeme will get this one overnight?

But I have not given up yet!

[skytrain10]

Is it the THK-2 from Turkey?

[skytrain10]

And LM, your chopper, I mean helicopter....my guess would be the MD-520N.

In fact, this may be the actual helicopter....
OK-YIK - Private McDonnell Douglas MD-520N Aircraft - Prost?jov Photo @ Airplane-Pictures.net (http://www.airplane-pictures.net/image8497.html)

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning everyone.

The Turk Hava Kurumu 2 (Turkish Aeroplane Company).

Nicely done Ken. :D

It's all yours.

PS, I think you are correct with the helo as well, but I prefer my photo!

[skytrain10]

Thanks LM.

Yes, I think your are right, your photo of the heli is certainly more aesthetically pleasing to the eye!

On with the show:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/SC126.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Yuneec E430 ?

[skytrain10]

Well done LM :ok:

Yes its the Chineese Yuneec E430 electric aircraft....must admit I though it would last longer than it did!

Over to you.

[Lightning Mate]

Many thanks skytrain.

....must admit I though it would last longer than it did!

Bit like the wine last night.....:\

Please standby.

[Lightning Mate]

OK, here we go.

This was one of three designs for a fighter, which didn't get further than the drawing board:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wossat257-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

A bit like the Saab RX-1 project....?

[Lightning Mate]

If I knew what that looked like I would be able to comment.

I can't find that one.

[Lightning Mate]

I see three of you on thread.....

It's not a Saab.

I'm in a benevolent mood today - go a long way east. :)

[Ridge Runner]

Is it an Aussie? A DHA machine of somekind? The P17?

[skytrain10]

East....as in Japan maybe?

[Lightning Mate]

Ah so Glasshopper.......:)

[Ridge Runner]

Ah so Glasshopper

So is that a yes?

[Lightning Mate]

Yes.

...and that's something else which elevates this one above Aviaquiz - more "personal" contact and clue offerings. :)

[Ridge Runner]

bueno, gracias hombre!

[Ridge Runner]

the J7W2????

[Lightning Mate]

Bueno.

Not the J7W2.

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

Jet powered variant of the Mitsubishi J4M? If not, was there a pusher prop version of this design?

[Lightning Mate]

Bingo HD.

The Mitsubishi J4M-1 Senden (one of the three - one was indeed a pusher prop version).

You have not had one up for a long time (sic).

All yours. :ok:

[HarmoniousDragmaster]

Oooh-er, missus! :ooh:

Thanks mate, its all these light GA types, they baffle me, lol.

I'll have a pic up soon, I've scrapped the one I was going to post, just trying to find the best way to turn a photo into a silhouette as I type, shouldn't be too long.

[Lightning Mate]

Ay up lad.

Looking forward to it. :)

[Ridge Runner]

The Mitsubishi J4M-1 Senden (one of the three - one was indeed a pusher prop version).


That's the thing on the cover the Japanese Secret Projects book? I've been trying to find out what it was called because it was a dead ringer for it!

RR

[Lightning Mate]

That's one place where it is.

[Lightning Mate]

its all these light GA types, they baffle me,

Me too sometimes. I prefer the Century Series fighters:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/CenturySeries.jpg

[skytrain10]

Bugger....found these drawings on the net of the Senden, and spent the last hour looking for a jet version!!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/SENDENjpg_thumb.png

Should have called it sooner I guess!!

[Lightning Mate]

Then I'm surprised you didn't find this one:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Senden.jpg

[skytrain10]

Nope, didn't find that. Wish I had!

ps, now if Convair had used that picture on their sales brochure they would have sold a few more me thinks!!