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I think the reason for the number of KLM visitors over the years is the flight paths used if you're heading to Amsterdam from South America and the Caribbean. Once the Atlantic has been crossed, Cork is the nearest airport.
Between their former colonies and a long-term development of some of the more minor South American markets, like Panama, Quito, Guayaquil etc. KLM does a lot of business in that part of the world.
Between their former colonies and a long-term development of some of the more minor South American markets, like Panama, Quito, Guayaquil etc. KLM does a lot of business in that part of the world.
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Cork would probably get a lot more medical diversions if the runway was longer. It's not really an option for westbound flights.
On Eastbound sectors the journey time to their planned destinations is much shorter so medical diversions are undertaken more infrequently.
On Eastbound sectors the journey time to their planned destinations is much shorter so medical diversions are undertaken more infrequently.
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I assume the most vulnerable routes are Rennes and Geneva, followed by Berlin and Lisbon.
Would anyone even notice if Rennes got replaced by Nantes?
Geneva must be vulnerable to being replaced with another ski destination like Zurich or Milan, particularly as both provide more non-ski reasons for going.
Or is it a Wizzair route?
Would anyone even notice if Rennes got replaced by Nantes?
Geneva must be vulnerable to being replaced with another ski destination like Zurich or Milan, particularly as both provide more non-ski reasons for going.
Or is it a Wizzair route?
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Anyone know how Rennes is actually doing? I thought something smaller than an A320 would be more suited to it but after checking aerlingus.com it seems that they use an A321 on the route quite frequently.
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It had better not be Lisbon or Geneva as She Who Must Be Obyed and I have bookings for both destinations in the upcoming months!
Does anyone know if Cork and Ryanair have any time for each other any more? There was a hell of a lot of damage done last winter when Prestwick and East Midlands were dropped to the point where my sense was that things seemed almost irrideemable between the two parties. Have things moved on at all since those dark days?
I think Ryanair could do a great go of a few routes eg, another attempt at somewhere like Madrid with Ryanair style marketing and perhaps a Milan Bergamo or somewhere else in northern Italy. Two a week should be safe if aimed at what remains of the weekend market? Both are within about two hours of Cork and anywhere along that line should be worth a punt?
Does anyone know if Cork and Ryanair have any time for each other any more? There was a hell of a lot of damage done last winter when Prestwick and East Midlands were dropped to the point where my sense was that things seemed almost irrideemable between the two parties. Have things moved on at all since those dark days?
I think Ryanair could do a great go of a few routes eg, another attempt at somewhere like Madrid with Ryanair style marketing and perhaps a Milan Bergamo or somewhere else in northern Italy. Two a week should be safe if aimed at what remains of the weekend market? Both are within about two hours of Cork and anywhere along that line should be worth a punt?
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Geneva route did really well for the last winter schedule. EI have actually increased the schedule to 3 flights a week this winter. Also they provide duty free sales on these flights 
No chance this route will be pulled.
No chance this route will be pulled.
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That is a relief to know that Geneva is safe. Heck, why not do Zurich as well!
The sick passenger aboard the KLM MD-11 that diverted to Cork yesterday is reported to have had some kind of cardiac event. The passenger is supposed to have suffered a gun shot wound to the neck area a few days ago in Panama and was being flown to Amsterdam for further medical treatment.
It seems there may have been some confusion about how the drama was reported to the authorities with some thinking the shooting had taken place aboard the flight and De Paper is reporting the Gardai are remaining mum about saying if the Garda armed Emergency Respone Unit was deployed or not up at Cork during yesterday's events!
A bit of drama for us in Cork and at least the airport has had the visit of at least one widebody this year!
The sick passenger aboard the KLM MD-11 that diverted to Cork yesterday is reported to have had some kind of cardiac event. The passenger is supposed to have suffered a gun shot wound to the neck area a few days ago in Panama and was being flown to Amsterdam for further medical treatment.
It seems there may have been some confusion about how the drama was reported to the authorities with some thinking the shooting had taken place aboard the flight and De Paper is reporting the Gardai are remaining mum about saying if the Garda armed Emergency Respone Unit was deployed or not up at Cork during yesterday's events!
A bit of drama for us in Cork and at least the airport has had the visit of at least one widebody this year!
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I notice that in this month's Cara, someone's added a route from Cork to Prague in the route map. Possibly a mistake, possibly a clue?
Regarding Rennes... I think it's main appeal to Aer Lingus is that it's a ver short flight where you can squeeze out a rotation that an aircraft couldn't make otherwise. I am a bit surprised that they're using an A321 on the route though.
Regarding Rennes... I think it's main appeal to Aer Lingus is that it's a ver short flight where you can squeeze out a rotation that an aircraft couldn't make otherwise. I am a bit surprised that they're using an A321 on the route though.
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It will be interesting to see what happens.
Currently there is one Saturday morning slot free for an ORK based A320. There is also an odd-ball CDG flight on a Thursday, the only day of the week with 2 flights to Paris. I wonder if they would use that slot and the Saturday morning slot for a 2x week to somewhere, perhaps as 840 pointed out, Prague.
I think the A321 is being used on Rennes because it is sandwiched between two flights where the capacity is needed. The A321 is used to Malaga, Lanzarote and so on, on tuesdays, thursdays and Saturdays, happens that Rennes is operated those days. An A320 does the Heathrow flights on those days.
Currently there is one Saturday morning slot free for an ORK based A320. There is also an odd-ball CDG flight on a Thursday, the only day of the week with 2 flights to Paris. I wonder if they would use that slot and the Saturday morning slot for a 2x week to somewhere, perhaps as 840 pointed out, Prague.
I think the A321 is being used on Rennes because it is sandwiched between two flights where the capacity is needed. The A321 is used to Malaga, Lanzarote and so on, on tuesdays, thursdays and Saturdays, happens that Rennes is operated those days. An A320 does the Heathrow flights on those days.
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In a few years when the economy picks up again I would love to see another low cost carrier (although I won’t name them for now) to replace Ryanair to Glasgow, East Midlands, Venice, Milan and perhaps Bordeaux or Biarritz for the summer season – perhaps 2 or 3 weekly flights to Pisa could be another flight for the summer. Lufthansa to Frankfurt, Brussels Air to Brussels and Austrian to Vienna would be more connections that Cork needs. Are Ryanair going to start flights from Cork – doubtful. Might be ideal for Aer Arann to replace BMI on the Birmingham route with 2 daily flights. Early morning and tea-time departures. Would Ryanair consider starting more flights from Cork if they got the Old Terminal but if they don’t would they still consider more flights like they have from Shannon – doubtful. Toulouse would be another good flight out of Cork for the summer season to the beautiful South of France, 2 or 3 weekly flights.
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Cork's future
Ger, Much as I'd like to see LH, Austrian and other overseas carriers coming to Cork, the reality is that Ryanair and Aerlingus are the only two carriers willing to provide significant growth at Cork in the medium term.
The exodus of overseas carriers from Dublin over the last two years is very significant as it shows that they are either unable or unwilling to compete with the EI and FR on Irish soil.
There's no doubt that there are a few gaps to be filled in the Cork market but if people are going to stay at home sulking just because there's a recession on then it's hard to see any new routes as most of Cork's growth over the last few years was due to people taking multiple trips abroad each year.
Inward tourism has been stagnant and may have even declined during the same period.
The exodus of overseas carriers from Dublin over the last two years is very significant as it shows that they are either unable or unwilling to compete with the EI and FR on Irish soil.
There's no doubt that there are a few gaps to be filled in the Cork market but if people are going to stay at home sulking just because there's a recession on then it's hard to see any new routes as most of Cork's growth over the last few years was due to people taking multiple trips abroad each year.
Inward tourism has been stagnant and may have even declined during the same period.