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Originally Posted by Shanwickman
The tears are flowing from me now TTT. Poor old Cork. They should close Shannon, Kerry and Knock to help and maybe base a couple of A380's in Cork!
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Cork (the airport with the one airbridge)
I recently read that the same DAA that only provided one airbridge at the new terminal at Cork are to provide no less than 19 at the new terminal in Dublin.
Can anyone explain the rational behind this? Furthermore why do Aerlingus willingly use airbridges at Dublin, Shannon and every foreign airport that make them available but never use the one at Cork.
Aerlingus and Ryanair allegedly told Aer Rianta in advance of the opening of the new terminal that they would not use the airbridges at Cork as they were low cost carriers. This gave Aer Rianta and later the DAA the excuse they were looking for to cut them out of the plan.
At least Ryanair has been consistant in their opposition to airbridges but Aerlingus have no problem using them everywhere apart from Cork.
Can anyone explain the rational behind this? Furthermore why do Aerlingus willingly use airbridges at Dublin, Shannon and every foreign airport that make them available but never use the one at Cork.
Aerlingus and Ryanair allegedly told Aer Rianta in advance of the opening of the new terminal that they would not use the airbridges at Cork as they were low cost carriers. This gave Aer Rianta and later the DAA the excuse they were looking for to cut them out of the plan.
At least Ryanair has been consistant in their opposition to airbridges but Aerlingus have no problem using them everywhere apart from Cork.
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Yet again the 'put down' population of Cork are whinging about their fantastic airport, and great city.
Ryan2000 - you ask why the DAA only installed one airbridge, but you then tell us the answer - nodbody wanted them. EI and FR told the airport authority that they didnt want airbridges - Yet you still expect the airport to build them -for what reason?
Aisle2C - Again Cork has the best regional airport in the British Isles - what more do you want the government to do? - provide butlers to carry that huge chip.
Tom - not sure how you can respond to your musings about poverty in cork being the fault of shannon airport, but please continue entertaining us.
In order to massage the egos of Cork, can I propose that 23 Airbridges should be provided, and Shannon airport should be moved - yes moved - to northern Finland.
Ryan2000 - you ask why the DAA only installed one airbridge, but you then tell us the answer - nodbody wanted them. EI and FR told the airport authority that they didnt want airbridges - Yet you still expect the airport to build them -for what reason?
Aisle2C - Again Cork has the best regional airport in the British Isles - what more do you want the government to do? - provide butlers to carry that huge chip.
Tom - not sure how you can respond to your musings about poverty in cork being the fault of shannon airport, but please continue entertaining us.
In order to massage the egos of Cork, can I propose that 23 Airbridges should be provided, and Shannon airport should be moved - yes moved - to northern Finland.
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Airbridges
Copenhagen, I still can't figure out why EI have no problem with airbridges in Shannon, Dublin and foreign airports and are not prepared to use them at Cork. Surely airbridges should be an integral part of a modern terminal.
It's appalling to see elderly people having to mount two flights of stairs to get from the ramp to the arrivals floor in the Cork terminal. Not an even an escalator provided by the DAA. People should demand to use the labour intensive lift which of course is conveniently hidden away and then airlines and handling companies would think twice about the no airbridge policy.
It's appalling to see elderly people having to mount two flights of stairs to get from the ramp to the arrivals floor in the Cork terminal. Not an even an escalator provided by the DAA. People should demand to use the labour intensive lift which of course is conveniently hidden away and then airlines and handling companies would think twice about the no airbridge policy.
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Just remember that with all points of contention, some people have a different view, and like me, consider The Republic of Ireland to be geographically part of the British Isles, although no part of the UK state.
Be tolerant chaps !
Be tolerant chaps !
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Aer Lingus were using the airbridge in Cork until there was the incident with it.
Has it actually been fixed? I know there was some kind of three-way dispute over whether it was the airport's, the builder's or the manufacturer's responsibility.
Has it actually been fixed? I know there was some kind of three-way dispute over whether it was the airport's, the builder's or the manufacturer's responsibility.
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Airbridge
I've noticed on 2 occasions in Berlin SXF Aer Lingus using an airbridge for the Dublin flight but not for the Cork flight...
I suppose they're trying to differenciate themselves from the competition (Ryanair) on the Dublin route...
I suppose they're trying to differenciate themselves from the competition (Ryanair) on the Dublin route...
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Airbridge at Cork.
The one airbridge is being used occassionaly. i.e recent Lourdes flights. There are also rumours of a runway extension to 17/35 if land near the threshold to 25 is sold off. This would involves the closure of the short runway which has allegedly become a white elephant in recent years given that airlines seldom carry out visual approaches.
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The last couple of times I flew into Dublin (both from Amsterdam, once last month, once last March) Aer Lingus didn't use an airbridge. God knows what the policy is.
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I think people are getting a bit upset and confusing a political term with a geographical location.
I am under the impression that Eire (as distinct from Ireland) is an independent and sovereign state which happens to be located on one of the British Isles(Ireland). The British Isles would surely include many of the islands around Britain and Ireland.
As for the airbridges. Aer Lingus was using the Cork airbridge for LHR flights for quite a few months, until it partially collapsed and damaged their aircraft. They haven't used it since. Perhaps there are ongoing rows with the CAA/DAA as to who is responsible - the EI operator or CAA maintenance/installers are preventing EI using the bridge again?
As for DUB, air-bridges are in short supply. Wether or not a flight uses one seems to be completely random. Even operators such as SWISS, SAS, Ethiad and Lufthansa, who would normally use them wherever possible seem to be using remote stands quite often.
I am under the impression that Eire (as distinct from Ireland) is an independent and sovereign state which happens to be located on one of the British Isles(Ireland). The British Isles would surely include many of the islands around Britain and Ireland.
As for the airbridges. Aer Lingus was using the Cork airbridge for LHR flights for quite a few months, until it partially collapsed and damaged their aircraft. They haven't used it since. Perhaps there are ongoing rows with the CAA/DAA as to who is responsible - the EI operator or CAA maintenance/installers are preventing EI using the bridge again?
As for DUB, air-bridges are in short supply. Wether or not a flight uses one seems to be completely random. Even operators such as SWISS, SAS, Ethiad and Lufthansa, who would normally use them wherever possible seem to be using remote stands quite often.
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There has been a fairly new rumor of a runway extension to 17/35 which I found very strange to fathom but it seems to be coming out now with talk of a carrot being dangled if part of runway 25/07 at the 25 end is sold off to land grabbers. There has to be a catch when it comes to Cork. What comes first the chicken or the egg? Secure a North Atlantic service and Cork can get an runway extension or is it vice versa! Things must be dire though if the Cork boyos are spinning about a runway extension. The passenger numbers for 2009 to date as a whole can hardly be pretty inspiring if extension rumours are being condoned but I wonder if they got the okay from the midwest for such revolutionary talk. Runway extension indeed for Cork - fat chance in our livetimes, I'd say.
Couldn't believe it this evening. Those who know Cork will know the billboard advertising by Musgrave Park rugby grounds on Kinsale Road on the way to the airport. bmi baby have a large size ad for their service from and to Manchester. It looks good and it gave the Mrs and I a good chuckle as we passed.
There has been a lot bizjet activity at Cork in recent weeks due to an ongoing music festival at the Cork Showgrounds. Being banished to elsewhere for parking like in yesteryear seems to much less of an issue now for which we must be thankful. The new Stand 20 opened up for use just under two weeks ago and a visiting NetJets Falcon 2000 had the honour of being the first aircraft to use the facility. Is it a widebody stand or not - to me it does not looking big enough for parking a widebody.
ryan2000 makes a particularly valid point about the arrivals shambles situation where folk whom are not too fleet of foot have to climb those flights of stairs. It is not just the old and the infirm this affects. For example, I am unfortunately quite overweight now for my height and using those stairs is no longer too easy even for the likes of me so you can imagine how it must be for older and more infirm folk. The Mrs and I used the Cork airbridge once when EI went to Madrid and they use them in Geneva, Amsterdam, Heathrow, CDG, Malaga, Alicante and on another occcasion we flew Stansted Palma with Ryanair and the airbridge was in use in Palma by Ryanair.
Nineteen new airbridges going in to Dublin and one in Cork. Need we say anymore really? Also let me guess it wont be too long now that snn will be looking for another handout with new airbridges saying how old their ones are with the relevant health and safety issues being spouted out as a part of the Beal Bocht.
If the Cork Airport Authority had any guts or credibiltiy in the aviation business this matter would be addressed as a matter of urgency.
Couldn't believe it this evening. Those who know Cork will know the billboard advertising by Musgrave Park rugby grounds on Kinsale Road on the way to the airport. bmi baby have a large size ad for their service from and to Manchester. It looks good and it gave the Mrs and I a good chuckle as we passed.
There has been a lot bizjet activity at Cork in recent weeks due to an ongoing music festival at the Cork Showgrounds. Being banished to elsewhere for parking like in yesteryear seems to much less of an issue now for which we must be thankful. The new Stand 20 opened up for use just under two weeks ago and a visiting NetJets Falcon 2000 had the honour of being the first aircraft to use the facility. Is it a widebody stand or not - to me it does not looking big enough for parking a widebody.
ryan2000 makes a particularly valid point about the arrivals shambles situation where folk whom are not too fleet of foot have to climb those flights of stairs. It is not just the old and the infirm this affects. For example, I am unfortunately quite overweight now for my height and using those stairs is no longer too easy even for the likes of me so you can imagine how it must be for older and more infirm folk. The Mrs and I used the Cork airbridge once when EI went to Madrid and they use them in Geneva, Amsterdam, Heathrow, CDG, Malaga, Alicante and on another occcasion we flew Stansted Palma with Ryanair and the airbridge was in use in Palma by Ryanair.
Nineteen new airbridges going in to Dublin and one in Cork. Need we say anymore really? Also let me guess it wont be too long now that snn will be looking for another handout with new airbridges saying how old their ones are with the relevant health and safety issues being spouted out as a part of the Beal Bocht.
If the Cork Airport Authority had any guts or credibiltiy in the aviation business this matter would be addressed as a matter of urgency.
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We are not part of Britain so why are we included by some as being part of the British Isles? It's not logical and the Irish government discourage it's use. That's all I was saying... Not trying to be arrogant, just accurate.
I have to agree about stand allocation under DAA as coming through last week, I could see that Aer Lingus parked all over the place. I was greatly confused!
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not wanting to be seen as part of the British state
It's not a case of not wanting to be seen as part and more a case of not being part of... I think it's courteous to use the preferred title as chosen by the people that inhabit those places. It's not an area of contention where the Republic is concerned as the people do not see themselves as 'British'
not wanting to be seen as part of the British state
It's not a case of not wanting to be seen as part and more a case of not being part of... I think it's courteous to use the preferred title as chosen by the people that inhabit those places. It's not an area of contention where the Republic is concerned as the people do not see themselves as 'British'
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I hate to burst people's bubble but 'the English' don't know one end of Ireland from the other, short of Belfast an Dublin they really don't know very much, or care much either. They certainly do not use the term British Isles just to get a rise out of some of us!
I think British Isles are perfectly acceptable in a geographical context. There is a massive difference between England and the British Isles. Think of it in a similar line to the BENELUX countries, the Iberian Peninsula or Scandinavia. These are all geographical terms, yet no-one gets hung up about them!
I think British Isles are perfectly acceptable in a geographical context. There is a massive difference between England and the British Isles. Think of it in a similar line to the BENELUX countries, the Iberian Peninsula or Scandinavia. These are all geographical terms, yet no-one gets hung up about them!
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Back to the aeroplanes, airlines and the airport, lads. Afterall this is the Peoples' Republic of Cork that we are talking about on this forum. Ireland & the British Isles can start their own thread on JetBlast if they want!
A French Air Force Transall has just landed above at Cork. Her grey camoflague blends in nicely with the more normal grey, murky, drizzling Cork summer's evening! One of the G- reg Thomson/First Choice 757s did the usual Tuesday Palma today in place of the regular C- reg machine. There were no less than 5 EI A320 series aircraft based in Cork over last weekend. EI-DET was parked up sick for the duration. Helped fill up the ramp nicely complementing the U. S Governement/USAF BBJ and the other smart bizjets including a GV and a big Austrian Learjet.
When all is said and done it is still hard to beat Cork!
A French Air Force Transall has just landed above at Cork. Her grey camoflague blends in nicely with the more normal grey, murky, drizzling Cork summer's evening! One of the G- reg Thomson/First Choice 757s did the usual Tuesday Palma today in place of the regular C- reg machine. There were no less than 5 EI A320 series aircraft based in Cork over last weekend. EI-DET was parked up sick for the duration. Helped fill up the ramp nicely complementing the U. S Governement/USAF BBJ and the other smart bizjets including a GV and a big Austrian Learjet.
When all is said and done it is still hard to beat Cork!
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Cork Parking
At least they are leaving executive jets stay this summer. Then again they have plenty room for them this year with all the airlines withdrawing flights.
The policy of refusing overnight parking to General Aviation was very shortsighted in my view particularly as nothing was done to address the shortage of stands.
Surely some of the stands in front of the old terminal could be marked out for General Aviation purposes as has been repeatedly suggested to the powers that be.
It gave a very negative first impression of the Cork Region to potential investors and high spending tourists.
Once again there's plenty room this year and there will be for the forseeable future.
The policy of refusing overnight parking to General Aviation was very shortsighted in my view particularly as nothing was done to address the shortage of stands.
Surely some of the stands in front of the old terminal could be marked out for General Aviation purposes as has been repeatedly suggested to the powers that be.
It gave a very negative first impression of the Cork Region to potential investors and high spending tourists.
Once again there's plenty room this year and there will be for the forseeable future.
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Yes, a remarkable first visit of an MD-11 to Cork. A medical diversion by all accounts. You have got to hand it to KLM with visits to Cork down the years by Lockheed Electra, 747-200, 747-400, 767-300, A310 and now at long, long last to Cork the first visit of an McDonnell Douglas MD-11. For the records the aircraft was PH-KCF. By pure chance I happened to be in transit from one workplace to another in the High Street area and I was lucky enough to get a great view of her going down the ILS to land on runway 17.
Still cant quite believe it though it is great for Cork.
Still cant quite believe it though it is great for Cork.
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For whatever reason (and certainly you have to compliment them for giving us variety), but KLM seem to have a preference towards Cork for their unplanned diversions.
St Martaen - Cork - Amsterdam with B747-400
Panama City - Cork - Amterdam with MD-11
Anyone know did she use the airbridge ??
St Martaen - Cork - Amsterdam with B747-400
Panama City - Cork - Amterdam with MD-11
Anyone know did she use the airbridge ??
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