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10th Oct 2008, 23:17
Replies: 200
Views: 56,693
Posted By sector8dear

OK guys I admit I have not read all the posts on...

OK guys I admit I have not read all the posts on this thread, but in the UK practice "Pans" are encouraged for training purposes and you have to do it on 121.5 or 243 cos they are the only...
7th Aug 2008, 13:11
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,138,327
Posted By sector8dear

Hi Pacplyer, this from the AAIB Special Bulletin...

Hi Pacplyer, this from the AAIB Special Bulletin issued in May...



Hope this helps....
25th Jul 2008, 23:17
Replies: 1,109
Views: 379,447
Posted By sector8dear

For what it's worth, looking at the close up...

For what it's worth, looking at the close up picture, the metalwork of the pressure hull seems to be torn outward and quite distorted. Looks to me (no expert) like some fairly violent force involved...
18th Jan 2008, 23:35
Replies: 949
Views: 426,062
Posted By sector8dear

Exactly, stayed at "current" power and perhaps...

Exactly, stayed at "current" power and perhaps after full landing flap applied. Think is "total" failure aircraft would not have made it. Must have been some thrust......
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Dec 2007, 01:04
Replies: 19
Views: 3,490
Posted By sector8dear

Smile 40612

That number, brings back memories......

C141 Starlifter - but who are you.............????? :):):):):):)
Forum: ATC Issues
1st May 2007, 00:28
Replies: 153
Views: 27,974
Posted By sector8dear

Relying on those doing the selection is one...

Relying on those doing the selection is one thing, alas applicants first have to get through a "non NATS" aptitude day first.

Could it just be that the apparent failure rate is in part caused by...
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Mar 2007, 21:03
Replies: 82
Views: 17,043
Posted By sector8dear

40612 - Ahhh Takes me back

Not many know of 40612 these days. Apparently 40612 graffiti can be seen as far afield at Ascension Island along with " you're still in the Midland Radar Overhead " :) :) :)

Bit off topic...
Forum: ATC Issues
22nd Dec 2002, 18:56
Replies: 53
Views: 9,777
Posted By sector8dear

Rumour has it that the new simulator at LTCC will...

Rumour has it that the new simulator at LTCC will be using BARCO ISIS TFT displays rather than SONY - if so I guess thats quite a good way to test/evaluate them.
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Nov 2002, 20:51
Replies: 26
Views: 3,673
Posted By sector8dear

Get real. You have all (NATS ATCOs) had a pay...

Get real. You have all (NATS ATCOs) had a pay rise (10%) while the rest of the aviation community has had none or a cut!!!!!

Yes, as another contributor notes, companies have executives and yes...
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Sep 2002, 20:56
Replies: 44
Views: 5,318
Posted By sector8dear

Bobagg - best part time job in the world (only...

Bobagg - best part time job in the world (only joking)

Don't give up though. Management may be a bit "iffy" but the job is GOOD.
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Sep 2002, 20:44
Replies: 80
Views: 9,437
Posted By sector8dear

Blah Blah Blah Yawn Yawn Snooze Snooze ...

Blah Blah Blah

Yawn Yawn

Snooze Snooze

:D :D :D
Forum: ATC Issues
7th Sep 2002, 22:28
Replies: 80
Views: 9,437
Posted By sector8dear

Just to set the record straight, it was Prospect...

Just to set the record straight, it was Prospect and its ATCO members who reneged on the originally agreed offer after Prospect originally recommended acceptance. NATS Management did not ask the...
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Jul 2002, 00:25
Replies: 19
Views: 2,921
Posted By sector8dear

FAST - withdrawn - don't know whether it was crap...

FAST - withdrawn - don't know whether it was crap or not but sources tell me that it was cost as well!
Forum: ATC Issues
24th Jul 2002, 01:11
Replies: 139
Views: 13,286
Posted By sector8dear

TUG3 Quote: "a) if we **** up, we kill...

TUG3

Quote:

"a) if we **** up, we kill hundreds

b) we take years to train to a standard that not all who start down that road can achieve

c) we work in a highly stressed environment...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jul 2002, 01:04
Replies: 139
Views: 13,286
Posted By sector8dear

RogerOut, you do have to give and take a little...

RogerOut, you do have to give and take a little (OPM etc) however in reality I think you will find that NATS are saving a good deal more than 6% with the pensions holiday - if my memory serves me...
Forum: ATC Issues
17th Jul 2002, 01:09
Replies: 139
Views: 13,286
Posted By sector8dear

Not directly involved in this, but as an...

Not directly involved in this, but as an observer:

Seems that both SATCO and Expeditedescent have hit a "raw nerve"!

If SATCO is 'in the job', he is already in the team, thus it is the place...
Forum: ATC Issues
12th Jul 2002, 23:43
Replies: 71
Views: 7,732
Posted By sector8dear

AREA52 I probably have a better and more...

AREA52 I probably have a better and more comprehensive understanding of the Union process than you do.

You make my point for me brilliantly, this ATCO claim has probably been on the agenda for a...
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Jul 2002, 23:02
Replies: 36
Views: 4,186
Posted By sector8dear

Hope I did manage to clarify my views a bit in...

Hope I did manage to clarify my views a bit in the last post . However I am curious (no names of course - I mean it!) exactly which "office wallers" do you guys feel are of no use? Who growls at...
Forum: ATC Issues
7th Jul 2002, 21:38
Replies: 36
Views: 4,186
Posted By sector8dear

Greebson, it's far from contempt, on the contrary...

Greebson, it's far from contempt, on the contrary I have the greatest respect for those who 'do the job' and earn the money. As we have seen tragically these last few days the consequences of a...
Forum: ATC Issues
6th Jul 2002, 22:22
Replies: 71
Views: 7,732
Posted By sector8dear

Just a little point. The issue of ATCO pay and...

Just a little point. The issue of ATCO pay and conditions is not an anual pay round issue. By making it so you are defeated from the start. Any amount agreed would have to be paid to ALL NATS...
Forum: ATC Issues
6th Jul 2002, 22:08
Replies: 36
Views: 4,186
Posted By sector8dear

AREA52 (and all ATCOs come to that), just a small...

AREA52 (and all ATCOs come to that), just a small point, but management (I presume you mean non-ATCO) pay is about half that of ATCO pay unless you mean the very small number of people eg DGMs etc. ...
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Jul 2002, 21:10
Replies: 62
Views: 11,411
Posted By sector8dear

What a truly awful thing to happen. I can not...

What a truly awful thing to happen. I can not express in words how I feel for those affected.

Can we please learn from this (bean counters take note) THIS IS REAL AND REAL PEOPLE GET HURT!!!!!
...
Forum: ATC Issues
14th May 2002, 00:13
Replies: 98
Views: 15,818
Posted By sector8dear

I've tried to resist but I just...

I've tried to resist but I just can't...................

What amazing timing on the part of the esteemed ATCOs!

For bloody years we have crap pay rises and other shxx and do nothing!!!

Now...
Forum: ATC Issues
11th May 2002, 01:18
Replies: 9
Views: 1,114
Posted By sector8dear

Controllers don't make mistakes - ever! It's...

Controllers don't make mistakes - ever! It's official!
Forum: ATC Issues
6th May 2002, 12:20
Replies: 98
Views: 15,818
Posted By sector8dear

Bex Most of your points accepted but when...

Bex

Most of your points accepted but when losing pay for industrial action, they don't count the days off. I have been on strike and my memory (admittedly a bit jaded these days) is losing...
Forum: ATC Issues
6th May 2002, 00:39
Replies: 98
Views: 15,818
Posted By sector8dear

Standard Speeds, trouble is on that basis you...

Standard Speeds, trouble is on that basis you would have to do the same every year or so and would thus always be playing catchup! Also don't forget strike days are deducted from pensionable...
Forum: ATC Issues
27th Apr 2002, 19:27
Replies: 74
Views: 7,629
Posted By sector8dear

The 'millions a month' thing is probably correct....

The 'millions a month' thing is probably correct. We (NATS) were purchased ENTIRELY with around £800m of borrowed money, turning us instantly into a 'bankrupt' organisation - and now a further £60m...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Apr 2002, 20:25
Replies: 98
Views: 15,818
Posted By sector8dear

I can't help wondering whether the votes cast for...

I can't help wondering whether the votes cast for the 'industrial action' option aren't tongue in cheek.

The offer is no worse than previous years and as ever it's not the most important thing. ...
Forum: ATC Issues
19th Apr 2002, 21:47
Replies: 41
Views: 5,035
Posted By sector8dear

Two trew Bex!:D :D

Two trew Bex!:D :D
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Apr 2002, 09:39
Replies: 20
Views: 2,292
Posted By sector8dear

Yea Biggin, I remember 'Delta Golluf', wasn't...

Yea Biggin, I remember 'Delta Golluf', wasn't there also a Delta Sierra who pronounced it something like Dilta Shearer or something.

They were good times I guess. Do you remember the...
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Apr 2002, 00:09
Replies: 16
Views: 1,963
Posted By sector8dear

clipped_wings, because it's infrastructure like...

clipped_wings, because it's infrastructure like roads, police, ambulance, fire brigade etc. Has to be there whatever and has to move whatever traffic is there.

Airlines, to be brutal, can go bust...
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Apr 2002, 00:00
Replies: 20
Views: 2,292
Posted By sector8dear

Yes Biggin I think you are right. The best bit...

Yes Biggin I think you are right. The best bit was the co-ordinated climbs. First you took the request from EHAM (for example) you then rang the sector (e.g. Clacton) and repeated the climb request...
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Apr 2002, 21:43
Replies: 41
Views: 5,035
Posted By sector8dear

BEX you may well be right about some attitudes at...

BEX you may well be right about some attitudes at LACC but just for the record (I'm still at LATCC) there are some important roles outside the operations room (software development etc).

These do...
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Apr 2002, 21:23
Replies: 20
Views: 2,292
Posted By sector8dear

BEXIL160 could tell you lots about the early days...

BEXIL160 could tell you lots about the early days of 9020 and the FDOR Room - we actually took estimates (no OLDI links in those days) and revisions in another room!!!!! and then activated the plans...
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Apr 2002, 21:15
Replies: 16
Views: 1,963
Posted By sector8dear

clipped_wings, while I agree that NATS could be...

clipped_wings, while I agree that NATS could be run better in some areas I would take issue with some of your sweeping statements.

"costly peripheral perks, jollies, meetings, cars, early goes"
...
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