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Old 9th Mar 2023, 14:24
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No, you simply take the set from behind and put it in front.....
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If Patriots are the answer the Western world will rue not having supplied them already. From the Spectator today:Russia renews its missile offensive

By Svitlana Morenets



It has long been suspected that Russia was going to mount a renewed military offensive in Ukraine as spring approached. This fear was realised overnight. From midnight to 7.a.m., Ukraine suffered one of the worst barrages of Russian bombing this year: Some 81 missiles were fired at residential buildings and critical infrastructure from air, land and sea, including several hypersonic Kinzhal missiles. Some 34 missiles were intercepted in total, Ukrainian authorities said. Ukraine was not able to down many, as it does not yet have the Patriot system that can intercept them. The commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces, General Valeriy Zaluzhny, said eight Iranian-made drones were also launched; four were intercepted. The BBC reported that at least nine civilians have been killed.



The strikes hit ten of Ukraine’s 27 regions, according to Volodymyr Zelensky. ‘It’s been a difficult night,’ the Ukrainian President said on Telegram this morning. ‘A massive rocket attack across the country…. Unfortunately, there are injured and dead.’

Meanwhile, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, told German newspaper Bild that the barrage had been one of the longest of the war, but that the capital’s air defences had intercepted all of the missiles fired on the city, bar one.

Kharkiv, which has increasingly been targeted by Russia, was shelled. Around 15 strikes were fired on the region’s infrastructure this morning. Taking Kharkiv has always been one of Vladimir Putin’s most desired goals, after he was defeated there last year. The city has always played the role of a significant supply chain for Ukrainian soldiers fighting in Donbas.

The bombing does not appear to have delivered a knockout blow to Ukraine’s power supply any more than previous bombardments – around 40 per cent of residents in Kyiv have been left without heating. What is particularly worrying, however, is that it has damaged the electricity supply to several nuclear power stations, two of which are under Russian control – although all have back-up, diesel-powered generators.

One of the nuclear plants impacted is Europe’s largest, located in Zaporizhzhia: a blackout mode has now been implemented for the sixth time during its occupation by Russian forces. The head of the UN nuclear watchdog issued an urgent warning this morning about the plant’s safety. ‘How can this be allowed to happen... One day our luck will run out.’ Some 18 diesel generators have been turned on to cover the plant’s power needs. However, they only have enough fuel for ten days’ operation. The energy company Energoatom shared the IAEA’s warning. ‘If it is impossible to resume external power supply to the plant, an accident may occur here within this time with radiation consequences for the entire world,’ a spokesman for the company said.

This is not the first time that Russia has fired hypersonic missiles on Ukraine. Several were fired at targets in the south of the country last March. Their main advantages over other missile systems is their speed, and the difficulty in detecting them: they travel at between five to ten times the speed of sound, and create a plasma cloud which absorbs the radio waves which might otherwise give them away. They can also escape detection by flying on an especially low trajectory. It is possible that Vladimir Putin not only used them during this offensive to gain an advantage in Ukraine, but also to send a reminder to the West of Russia’s capabilities, as his forces continue to fight for the besieged eastern city of Bakhmut.

The main rationale, however, for Putin’s latest attack is to put psychological pressure on the Ukrainians to give up. Shelling the power plants makes little sense, considering that winter is over.

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Personally, I don't believe that. What I do believe is that we the west, and in particular Europe, are totally gutless and too worried about any effect on our comfortable little lives!!!
Probably. But either way it's a bloody war of attrition.
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 16:26
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russian channels on telegram label "ukranians stealing".........video by nutloose on the tractor
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?…… me???

Some sanity from A Russian

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Putting AIM120 on to MIG29 reminds me of the Falklands where Shrike was put on Vulcan and Sidewinder on Nimrod by the UK boffins and Exocet was truck mounted by Argentine boffins.

How about truck mounting the naval version of Stormshadow?

Easier to conceal and no pilot conversion training required. Full spec long range version please.
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?…… me???

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When she says "The only countries that will work with us now are African" sounds a bit like the UK. Perhaps Rishi can do a deal with Putin over Rwanda?
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When she says "The only countries that will work with us now are African" sounds a bit like the UK. Perhaps Rishi can do a deal with Putin over Rwanda?
Why would you think that the UK Prime Minister would want to even negotiate a new outhouse agreement with Putin? In my opinion anything Putin agrees to other than an all out unconditional surrender would be worthless.
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Why would you think that the UK Prime Minister would want to even negotiate a new outhouse agreement with Putin? In my opinion anything Putin agrees to other than an all out unconditional surrender would be worthless.
a joke , perhaps?
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BK. I think you missed the humour there!
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I had cataract surgery today: teriified at prospect, piece of p1ss in fact, roll on eye op number two.

The young male nurse was Polish "I have lived here 12 years"

I congratlated him on Poland's response to Putin and their help to Ukr.

"We are neighbours so we help. And we would be next"

Fine country, fine people Vital help in Enigma, and B o B.

Thank you.
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Get well soon LB..

This is strange, Russias planned last stand?


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So if you have a military train and the enemy takes the war someplace else, do you have to lay tracks to the new location?
Is this HO, or OO gauge? Planning on the coffee table for the amount of land that Prickgozein (shortened to "Prick" by his friends, and foes alike), has conquered. Putrid can fit a model of all of the terrain that 50,000 ruzzians died to capture, on his table, in 12':1' scale.
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Russian news agency Agenstvo Novosti is reporting that Prigozhin said that he and the Wagnerites were completely disconnected from the government communication line and blocked all available passes to the Russian ministries.

“In order for me to stop asking for ammunition, all special telephones were turned off for me in all offices in all divisions. Another important point: they blocked all passes to all departments that should make decisions, ”says Prigozhin’s audio commentary, published by his press service.
It sounds a lot like the Russian elite internal competition has begun as they smell blood.

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Originally Posted by ROC man
Putting AIM120 on to MIG29 reminds me of the Falklands where Shrike was put on Vulcan and Sidewinder on Nimrod by the UK boffins and Exocet was truck mounted by Argentine boffins.

How about truck mounting the naval version of Stormshadow?

Easier to conceal and no pilot conversion training required. Full spec long range version please.
Stormshadow / SCALP-EG is an air launched only cruise-missile. It needs the carrying aircraft to launch at close to the missiles cruising speed. The missile does not have a ground or ship launch booster capability to accelerate it up to cruising speed before it's turbojet takes over. It's this missing booster which means it cannot be adapted for ground or truck launch.

The French MdCN uses SCALP derivative sub-systems but in a different monocoque configuration with a vertical launch capability from the Sylver launcher system which holds 16 missiles. So wholly not suitable for truck mounting - think 4x Patriot size quad launcher packages.

Exocet was already a ship launched missile with launch booster and single launch tube mounting.



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Exocet was already a ship launched missile with launch booster and single launch tube mounting.
I wonder if the Ukrainian Puma could carry them, i seem to remember the RAF ones had then indents in the side where they would have fitted.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
I had cataract surgery today: teriified at prospect, piece of p1ss in fact, roll on eye op number two.

The young male nurse was Polish "I have lived here 12 years"

I congratlated him on Poland's response to Putin and their help to Ukr.

"We are neighbours so we help. And we would be next"

Fine country, fine people Vital help in Enigma, and B o B.

Thank you.
Thinking in terms of my wife having cataract surgery but I know what you mean about Polish medics.
Wife needed teeth implants and we found they were about one third the price if you went to Poland rather went to a UK dentist.
So we went to Szczecin and as you say eveyone was very helpful and the treatment was excellent; including flights and accomodation we still saved about two thirds compared to what the same treatment would have cost in the UK
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Russian news agency Agenstvo Novosti is reporting that Prigozhin said that he and the Wagnerites were completely disconnected from the government communication line and blocked all available passes to the Russian ministries.

Quote. “In order for me to stop asking for ammunition, all special telephones were turned off for me in all offices in all divisions. Another important point: they blocked all passes to all departments that should make decisions, ”says Prigozhin’s audio commentary, published by his press service.

It sounds a lot like the Russian elite internal competition has begun as they smell blood.

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What he needs top do and I do hope he pops in and reads this... you need to turn your Private army around and march them on Moscow to sort out those preventing you from carrying out your work.. Remember KILL THEM ALL, take no prisoners of the Russian elite....
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I wonder if the Ukrainian Puma could carry them, i seem to remember the RAF ones had then indents in the side where they would have fitted.
Nutty, where on earth is the value in talking about this, unless you want to invent some kind of Dungeons and Dragons imaginary world ? Exocet is only about 100 km max in its latest form, which doesn't give much range over the sea once you subtract Russian territory and the missile-threatened Ukrainian zone, and the ships/subs are likely to be much further out. Why couldn't/wouldn't Ukraine use the Neptun missiles ( 280 km ) they have developed which are believed to have sunk the Moskva ?

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we went to Szczecin
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