Is Ukraine about to have a war?
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Early footage just released of Russian forces destroying one of their helicopters at Hostomel prior to leaving, a bit heavy on the explosives there.
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...37328071909376
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...37328071909376

While I'm sceptical that many of the industrial fires posted here are any more than the usual day to day industrial bungles of a gigantic nation renowned for spectacular industrial bungles the torchng of military arcraft in Vladivostok of all places is intrigueing. Vladivostok is geographically about as far from Ukraine as it's possible to get in Russcist terms - so to see what on the face of it seems possibly anti Russcist action is as interesting as it is commendable.
Unrest in the 'stans' and remoter states could well be a sign that mothers are finally missing sons to the extent that the bereaved begin to take action. Ukraine can never defeat Russia alone, ultimately it simply does not contain enough consumable bodies; only Russia can defeat Russia. The more factories and Migs that mysteriously self-immolate entire time-zones remote from Ukraine's direct influence might well indicate a welcome start to a kick-back against Putain's vile dictatorship.
Unrest in the 'stans' and remoter states could well be a sign that mothers are finally missing sons to the extent that the bereaved begin to take action. Ukraine can never defeat Russia alone, ultimately it simply does not contain enough consumable bodies; only Russia can defeat Russia. The more factories and Migs that mysteriously self-immolate entire time-zones remote from Ukraine's direct influence might well indicate a welcome start to a kick-back against Putain's vile dictatorship.
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Sources on this are somewhat dodgy, but the chances of them getting an IMF loan are virtually non existent considering they failed to abide by the conditions of previously issued loans. If they want to sell the 380 sure maybe the west should by them but it should be a straight purchase. Pakistan is in DEEP financial trouble, the short of it is that its estimted pakistan is down 3 billion or less in foreign exchange. They have loan repayment and servicing due in the next 12 months between 25 and 33 billion dollars,

WW2 is back. Meet the Soviet Russian Bradley: MT-LB with a 2M-7 naval gun (dating back to 1944).
First they they sent their sailors to the front and now they are sending their naval guns as well. What next, torpedoes on ZIL-131?
First they they sent their sailors to the front and now they are sending their naval guns as well. What next, torpedoes on ZIL-131?

WW2 is back. Meet the Soviet Russian Bradley: MT-LB with a 2M-7 naval gun (dating back to 1944).
First they they sent their sailors to the front and now they are sending their naval guns as well. What next, torpedoes on ZIL-131?
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status...90682849648644
First they they sent their sailors to the front and now they are sending their naval guns as well. What next, torpedoes on ZIL-131?
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status...90682849648644

the MT-LB surely, but will it be with the turret I don't know.
The turret is said to weigh 600kg without ammunition and the vehicle can carry roughly 1500kg so that makes it top heavy and reduces the capabilities as an APC. Certainly wouldn't swim with that thing.
What's the reasoning behind I would like to know, that turret with 14,5mm guns doesn't make it an IFV, nor MBT, not a AA-platform and declines the use as an APC. Maybe a mobile part of a fortified position, way to move heavy MG?
The turret is said to weigh 600kg without ammunition and the vehicle can carry roughly 1500kg so that makes it top heavy and reduces the capabilities as an APC. Certainly wouldn't swim with that thing.
What's the reasoning behind I would like to know, that turret with 14,5mm guns doesn't make it an IFV, nor MBT, not a AA-platform and declines the use as an APC. Maybe a mobile part of a fortified position, way to move heavy MG?

1) When it really ceases to exist
2) When the Defence Ministry gathers its courage to tell Putin ( although Prighozin may well whisper to him before that )

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Fascinating thoughts of a French General.


”Wash, rinse, repeat” aka “ Here we go again!”
I can hear it now: “We will hold free and democratic elections…after which I shall assume power for life, anyone disagree?”
One thing I learned in my travels….Any country which features the words “Democratic Republic of” prominently in the name is neither of those. In the case of the Russian Federation or whatever the successor is called the same will hold true.
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the MT-LB surely, but will it be with the turret I don't know.
The turret is said to weigh 600kg without ammunition and the vehicle can carry roughly 1500kg so that makes it top heavy and reduces the capabilities as an APC. Certainly wouldn't swim with that thing.
What's the reasoning behind I would like to know, that turret with 14,5mm guns doesn't make it an IFV, nor MBT, not a AA-platform and declines the use as an APC. Maybe a mobile part of a fortified position, way to move heavy MG?
The turret is said to weigh 600kg without ammunition and the vehicle can carry roughly 1500kg so that makes it top heavy and reduces the capabilities as an APC. Certainly wouldn't swim with that thing.
What's the reasoning behind I would like to know, that turret with 14,5mm guns doesn't make it an IFV, nor MBT, not a AA-platform and declines the use as an APC. Maybe a mobile part of a fortified position, way to move heavy MG?
https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland...188145854.html

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The legacy soviet 2M-7 trawler mounted gun is not.

Yeah the equvialent to the abomination russia fielded would be the TUK TUK with the maxim machine gun mounted on it or the ute (truck) with the twin maxim 1910's and red dot scope being used for anti drone use. I spent time as a gunner in a sustained fire machine gun platoon. We trained to fire them in indirect fire so I could be some edge case usage of them, but comparing them to them capability of a modern radar guided AA with fused airbursting rounds is pretty retarded

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Then again, at Kursk, the Soviets could stand to lose 10 to 1 because they were outproducing the Germans by over 20 to 1, and Stalin's concern over human casualties was pretty much non-existent (sort of like Putin).
