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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 11:08
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There's a new Georgia Foundation map & kml out this morning.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...881530772&z=13

It shows Ukraine still holding the east bank of the Bakhmut river.
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Now you are all sitting on the naughty step and I have your attention

Longer version of the second one,
Interestingly it touches down on the Sat uplink fairing (if that is what it is) and then lifts off and touched down again slightly harder, at which point we lose video feed, first landing did not fire the contact charge?

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Update on Bakhmut and the casualties on both sides.

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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 11:41
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A Russian Su-34/Su-30SM fighter jet was shot down over Russian-controlled Yenakiieve, Donetsk Oblast. Two pilots ejected.

According to preliminary information, the jet was shot down in a friendly fire incident.
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Russia have removed a span of the Kerch Rail bridge for repair


Aviation Content: another jet down orac mentions above




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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 11:54
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Mine clearing again, one vehicle three mines!

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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 12:50
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Longer version of the second one. Interestingly it touches down on the Sat uplink fairing (if that is what it is) and then lifts off and touched down again slightly harder, at which point we lose video feed, first landing did not fire the contact charge?
Begs the question of where's the most effective place to attack a large aircraft with a small device. I'd have thought in the cockpit/flight deck area.
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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 12:53
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Interestingly it touches down on the Sat uplink fairing (if that is what it is) and then lifts off and touched down again slightly harder, at which point we lose video feed, first landing did not fire the contact charge?

Would a good method be to slam down on top of the wing surface? In the hope of puncturing and igniting a fuel tank? If nothing else, it might damage a spar

If it wasn't for the RBF plug, maybe put one inside an engine intake and detonate?. Even if it didn't do any real damage, they wouldn't be able to rely on that engine staying in one piece once it got spooled up

...and how long before someone decides to put a charge on TOP of the drone and fly underneath something ... to the weak underbelly as it were?

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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 13:05
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Hmmm… perhaps 🤔 we need to add dr0ne to l@ser.
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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 13:17
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Looks like the pull-back from Bakhmut has begun.

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Drone footage is now fairly common, and so I am surprised that, AFAIK, no footage of attacks labelled "Switchblade" have been posted here. I believe that there have been deliveries of both 300 (10 km ) and 600 (40 km ) and since the 600 carries the Javelin warhead, I would have expected some propaganda-worthy kills.

Anybody know why ?
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Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
Begs the question of where's the most effective place to attack a large aircraft with a small device. I'd have thought in the cockpit/flight deck area.
Fairings will be fiberglass or composite, easier to penetrate and more importantly hold the radar dish up in the "Smartie" and the satellite uplink dish / aerial in the fuselage fairing etc and are highly vunerable targets, they probably hold a lot of difficult to source now Western technology too.
Without those two items its just a glorified flying transport for a few people and is rendered ineffective, remember for a satellite dish antenna to work it needs to see the satellite, so it won't be housed in a metal fairing, rather a fibreglass fairing.

Hitting a wing is probably a no no as the wing planks are probably about 1/2 inch plus thick, you would need a fairly large charge to get through that and the Avtur fuel is damned hard to set alight.
Engines, why would you, an engine change would not be difficult to do, plenty of spares and it would easily be spotted on the preflight inspections.
Remember these things are built like the proverbial brick sh+thouses as the airframes were designed to operate off rough ground / fields in wartime.
so you go for the heart of the beast, those items easily penetrable that can cause the maximum bang for your buck and are probably the hardest things to fix, heck if the radar has even been knocked out of alignment that will cause headaches.
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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 13:59
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TF - Plenty of footage on Reddit and elsewhere:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3
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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 14:02
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Drone footage is now fairly common, and so I am surprised that, AFAIK, no footage of attacks labelled "Switchblade" have been posted here. I believe that there have been deliveries of both 300 (10 km ) and 600 (40 km ) and since the 600 carries the Javelin warhead, I would have expected some propaganda-worthy kills.

Anybody know why ?
Are you looking?

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Swit...ed_query&f=top
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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 14:04
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Things not good in Kupiansk either. Families being told to evacuate. When oh when are the west really going to help Ukraine? Russia don't care about losses and are advancing in large numbers. Ukraine needs to be given the means to counter that.
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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 15:46
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61 years old.... and headed to combat for russia.. WOW



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Old 3rd Mar 2023, 17:02
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Originally Posted by ORAC
The smart move…remember The Battle of Passchendaele, also known as the Third Battle of Ypres during WW1.

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Originally Posted by albatross
The smart move…remember The Battle of Passchendaele, also known as the Third Battle of Ypres during WW1.
No, what happened and what's the linkage ? TIA
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