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Old 12th Jul 2022, 13:38
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
Possibly, but its impossible to tell definitively. There's so much cobbled together video about its difficult to know what's going on sometimes.
An analysis here www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ7a8paDs7k
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Old 12th Jul 2022, 14:47
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A question for the specialists.

How much of an ammunition depot is tailored to ammunition storage ? What I am asking is, if ammunition has to be stored in an ordinary warehouse with racking because the specialist facility is destroyed, how much would this slow down the stocking/de-stocking of the ammunition ? Would it in fact be possible because there might be requirements for ammo storage that I am unaware of.?

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Old 12th Jul 2022, 15:10
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Damn the a guy keeps track of the 200 list has just added another major general, he is also trying to track down the rumored deaths of another 4-5 in the last week killed by himars/m270 strikes, one strike killed Chief of Staff of the 22nd Army Corps (military unit 73954, Simferopol) , Major General Nasbulin; + 4 colonels


OH and russia has had to goto iran to beg some drones off them
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and in other, aerospace news, here is the next frontier for Russian forces, and some of their remaining T72's competing with starlink. The seriously impressive counterpoint of what humans can achieve, Vlad on one hand, and an IRST at L2 looking further backward than even Vlad has peered. Amazing Einstein-Khvolson rings in abundance. An amazing universe, and then there is Vlads big bang....


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Old 12th Jul 2022, 17:13
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IGnition and shockwave.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...eb2x&context=3

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Old 12th Jul 2022, 17:57
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Fire at Nova Kakhovka

This, I believe was where the HIMARS hit. View thanks to an amazing site from NASA. You can use the date control to see how the fire has reduced since yeterday.
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Old 12th Jul 2022, 18:12
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some quite good flying footage
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Old 12th Jul 2022, 21:11
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Russian guy talks about the Airlines today in Russia,

At 10:15


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Old 12th Jul 2022, 21:31
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Originally Posted by ORAC
The number of accurate strikes against ammo dumps is escalating as new artillery arrivals.

I am seeing reports that Russian troops are mutinying and refusing to man the sites.
I don't blame them. Not sure if this was already posted here, but here's what happens when a Russian ammunition dump gets hit:


It seems to be filmed with some kind of body cam. Things start to get really serious about 5 minutes in the video. At some point they say "we won't get out, that's it", according to the automatic translation. Somehow, they did. And this is about a month ago, before Ukraine put HIMARS to work.
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Old 12th Jul 2022, 21:58
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Russian guy talks about the Airlines today in Russia,

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GREAT RUSSIAN DOWNGRADE HAS BEGAN | Can We see It Now? - YouTube
Glad I watched this, at least the first thirty minutes where he gives a measured and factual account of how life in Russia has changed since 24 Feb 2022. From there it changed into Q and A, so I paused it.
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Old 13th Jul 2022, 06:05
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What utter ballcocks, The majority of the free world speaks English, does that then justify the U.K. invading those Countries to liberate them? Of course not, but Russia seems to see it as a justification.
To add to that Russia is now dumping on them, raping, pillaging and using them as canon fodder, the very same people they “came to help”
most Russian speaking people in Ukraine hate Russia and many have stopped speaking Russian and switched to Ukrainian. The Russian speaking population dropped to 10% from 2014 to 2022
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Old 13th Jul 2022, 06:06
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
A question for the specialists.

How much of an ammunition depot is tailored to ammunition storage ? What I am asking is, if ammunition has to be stored in an ordinary warehouse with racking because the specialist facility is destroyed, how much would this slow down the stocking/de-stocking of the ammunition ? Would it in fact be possible because there might be requirements for ammo storage that I am unaware of.?
The (former) ammo depot in the video in post #7029 appears to simply be ammo stacked up in crates out in the open (a park or orchard, maybe). Nothing so sophisticated as an actual building.
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Old 13th Jul 2022, 07:20
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full
The (former) ammo depot in the video in post #7029 appears to simply be ammo stacked up in crates out in the open (a park or orchard, maybe). Nothing so sophisticated as an actual building.
Yes , I saw that after my comment, but either that is a temporary facility or Russian standards really are unimaginably bad. I say that because the crates are not even on pallets*, so would have to be moved by hand rather than fork-lifts: you can imagine that this would be ten times slower and need five times as many men.

* On reflection , no pallet would be able to take the weight of that many ammo crates, so I do still wonder what a properly-designed storage depot looks like.

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Old 13th Jul 2022, 07:40
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
I do still wonder what a properly-designed storage depot looks like.
It seems that in Russia they look like a luxury villa on the coast.
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Old 13th Jul 2022, 08:51
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Yes , I saw that after my comment, but either that is a temporary facility or Russian standards really are unimaginably bad. I say that because the crates are not even on pallets*, so would have to be moved by hand rather than fork-lifts: you can imagine that this would be ten times slower and need five times as many men.

* On reflection , no pallet would be able to take the weight of that many ammo crates, so I do still wonder what a properly-designed storage depot looks like.
surely, if a crate can take the weight of other crates stacked on top of it, it is possible to make a pallet that can take the same load? Not a standard ‘euro pallet’ obviously.
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Old 13th Jul 2022, 10:31
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I don't blame them. Not sure if this was already posted here, but here's what happens when a Russian ammunition dump gets hit:

It seems to be filmed with some kind of body cam. Things start to get really serious about 5 minutes in the video. At some point they say "we won't get out, that's it", according to the automatic translation. Somehow, they did. And this is about a month ago, before Ukraine put HIMARS to work.
Given the amount of ammo seen stacked up at the beginning of the video, I wouldn't have stopped running. If the whole lot cooked off in one go then they would all of been killed where they sheltered first of all.

'twas vaguely amusing to see them take shelter in the lorry at the beginning: "Quick, close the windows and lock the doors!!"

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Drive has an article about the Ukrainians operating behind the lines and also about the early assaults on Ukraine etc, a long article so will add a few snippits,
Sometimes they cross the border by helicopter. Other times, by foot.

But the objective is always the same, says the head of a shadowy Ukraine special operations group known as the Shaman Battalion.

Give the Russians a taste of what Ukrainians have been experiencing since 2014. And especially since Feb. 24.
“There was an impact site of a Tochka-U, which is a big missile,” said Sydney. “Then there were a lot of Sukhoi aircraft that were flying over, dropping stuff.”

After that came the helicopters. Huge waves of them.

“There were over 44 helicopters with air assault troops and our problem on the spot was that we were lacking a means and assets for taking them down in those numbers.”

Sydney then praised the young Ukrainian National Guard troops who stood their ground, firing old Soviet-era man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) at the overwhelming influx of Russia’s vaunted VDV airborne assault troops.

“I would like to give credit to the young boys. Some of them were 18 and 19 years old. Their mission was to guard the airfield and runway itself. They took down a few helicopters and one Sukhoi fighter jet. Despite the fact that they're people of 18 and 19 years of age, they have balls bigger than many people in this world.”

The attack on the airport was eventually repelled, the biggest in a cascading series of military disasters for Russia that led to their ignominious retreat.

But before they left Antonov Airport, the Russians lashed out, said Sydney, destroying the world’s biggest airplane - the six-engine An-225 cargo jet known worldwide by its nickname Mriya.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-inside-russia

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Old 13th Jul 2022, 11:29
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Drive has an article about the Ukrainians operating behind the lines and also about the early assaults on Ukraine etc, I long article so will add a few snippits,
This has got to be a big problem for RF, as with the amount of Russian speaking Ukrainians, and the access to RF kit and uniforms, and knowledge of the RF methods, behind the lines attacks on RF from motivated and brave Ukraine forces must be causing them significant problems.
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Balls of steel


Rumours that Poland will get 300 Abrams in exchange for supplying 232 PT-91 "Twardy" tanks, an upgraded version of the T-72, to Kyiv.


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Old 13th Jul 2022, 15:17
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Excellent presentation on the training going on in the UK

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Old 13th Jul 2022, 15:34
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
A question for the specialists.

How much of an ammunition depot is tailored to ammunition storage ? What I am asking is, if ammunition has to be stored in an ordinary warehouse with racking because the specialist facility is destroyed, how much would this slow down the stocking/de-stocking of the ammunition ? Would it in fact be possible because there might be requirements for ammo storage that I am unaware of.?
This might give you an idea, there was an image i cannot find, basically they stack box on box in warehouses by hand, the Russian that took a selfie gave away the position and it was destroyed.



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